What Hydroflask Doesn't Want You To Know

[@humphrey]

Here's my $500k Portfolio: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmXLaZePiMx7g9k

[@Jdxhbsskjxhxbzz]

Bro what?

[@shylady8711]

It's the lead free canister that I'm buying

[@SpaceWolf21]

You should do a stanley version of this

[@thaicraft1219]

Nobody fucking cares PLUS you forgot to add they’re the only brand with zero lead.

[@TheDaedalus07o]

You forgot to mention "buying in bulk" probably means 10000 units minimum

[@Somerandomegamer]

Along with marketing and logistics costs tied to it

[@UnofficialNoName]

Then you have to worry about storage and whether or not they can move the product or not

[@amir3515]

You could find a non name brand of the same flask for like 5-6 bucks prob

[@angelmedina2762]

It's usually never that high. If you did buy that many it actually be a few cents cheaper and I'm sure that's how many the name brand company buys at a time they negotiate so they would most definitely be paying less the 4. Usually anywhere from 50-100 being the highest prices. Then discount anywhere from 200 above you'll see another few cents taken off at 500 and 1000 anything higher contact the company directly.

[@Donaldtrummp]

You have obviously never looked up whole sale websites genius 🙄 😂 they usually will price It at something like 2- for $20 5- for $40 10- for $60 ect alot of wholesalers still sell low amounts just slightly higher price

[@zephyrustheghost8141]

This literally isn't a secret every brand on the planet does that

[@crustaceanking3293]

also he failed to mention that "buying in bulk" means at least 1,000 p.cs 1000 × $4 = $4,000 and even if you do buy it, unless you plan to resell the surplus it's basically a waste of $3,996

[@vexedpixels]

@@crustaceanking3293 and not to mention a good chunk of the cost that he fails to mention has to do with technology and not a status symbol. if you want hydroflask technology, you buy a hydroflask. that’s why you buy apple products if you like iOS/Apple OS, it’s not that it has a high material cost, but that it required money, time, and effort to develop that technology.

[@stellasoleclark5586]

@@crustaceanking3293 but the brand is buying in bulk

[@crustaceanking3293]

@@stellasoleclark5586 and then selling each unit at a markup to make up for the cost, along with a brand name

[@crustaceanking3293]

@@Zoroaster4 yes, they're basically just metal thermoses

[@jo4sh0w76]

Actually, the hydro flasks have a special metal that is twice as much gravity when in a room under 70 degrees fahrenheight than most objects. This is why it manages to hit the floor every time in math class

[@puffy5661]

@Hagen Meyer he sayin the bottle drops allot on the ground in school and they not wrong, broke 2 of my hydroflasks like that.

[@thepineappleburster4439]

Twice as much gravity? Bruv.

[@puffy5661]

@Hagen Meyer idk man, hit the ground from like 4 feet up and just cracked

[@ahsanejoyo]

@@thepineappleburster4439 it’s a joke he’s just waffling

[@fable_enthusiast]

Yeah, I know it gives you massages too!

[@gl7431]

1) buying in bulk 2) quality controls 3) material certification 4) transport fee 5) import/export fee 6) federal/local taxes 7) transport warehouse fee There's a lot of costs left out that'll raise the cost by unit even with no branding to about 400% original bulk factory price by unit

[@SephirothEGS]

Also R&D/Design costs. I mean I know it's just a water bottle but everything about it from the effectiveness of the insulation to the cap to the manufacturing tooling had to be thought up/designed/engineered, prototyped and tested.

[@BigBenAdv]

One more point - after sales support. Most 'premium' brands don't get where they are just because of pure marketing. They're generally well prepared to back it up with after sales support. E.g. My buddy's friend had a Rimowa luggage bag (>$500) that had a faulty wheel after he had landed overseas. He brought it to the closest Rimowa dealer and they had it repaired at no cost to him and loaned him a replacement in the interim. Granted Hydroflask isn't even in the same league, I'm sure they'd have no issues sending out a replacement part with minimal to no questions asked if you'd have an issue.

[@moracomole8090]

Returns as well

[@shyfrog3731]

"People love paying for status symbols" is one of the most... overwhelmingly painful true statements I have ever heard.

[@destructicon844]

I learned many years ago to not care.

[@winter1957]

I mean it’s common knowledge no?

[@mediterraneanmint89]

Hello apple

[@Lars_Ziah_Zawkian]

Apple

[@rogerkirby6883]

@@mediterraneanmint89true to a degree but I prefer apples iOS operating system over anything android has put out.

[@user-zi8lg5qu1h]

This guy is a master of talking about something everyone already knows

[@andrewsarinana946]

And hes just so effing proud of himself too🤣

[@NativePride4051]

But at one point you did not know this either correct? Same with other people watching this video.

[@nolifep1257]

Bruh what he’s just help teaching people this. Not many people know the full reason u dingus

[@nolifep1257]

@@andrewsarinana946 bruh you’re the one full of urself typing this out

[@ABEL-cd2sp]

@austin roderick that's... Accurate actually, yes they do feel slightly more boring but they're genuinely good at teaching you at least the basics. My favorite topic is marketing, you can find some incredible books about it and when you make a campaign and launch it and it just works so well, oh baby it's so satisfying!

[@kbgaming6012]

A bulk dealer isn’t going to sell one random person a single bottle, they’ll be selling them in massive lots to companies, so unless you’re planning on using 5,000 flasks, you’re not getting it

[@jasonpark1556]

But the point is to show people that the competition is the same

[@dang6787]

@@nothereyetlost at least somebody isn’t smooth brained

[@sd-wc9ep]

Yeah but you can probably find the same bottle for 10-15 bucks at competitors

[@GabrieleirbaGabrieleirbag]

You don't know what you're talking about

[@RGTube]

You can easily resell all 5000 flask and make a business out of it.

[@thelittlegiant273]

Wow thanks for the tip now I just need to figure out what to do with a thousand water bottles

[@Bxll_Bxll]

Sell them

[@Bxll_Bxll]

@Iamplant17 people

[@udontevenwannaknowbruv]

@@Bxll_Bxll big brain

[@CompetitiveMinecraftLegacy]

​@@Bxll_Bxllwow man I was about to start selling them to my local pigeons 😅

[@Bxll_Bxll]

@@CompetitiveMinecraftLegacy do sell them to the pidgeons! I heard the thermos shortages there are catastrophic, you’d make tons of money if you can get the feathers through money exchange to whatever currency you use!

[@buddacreem6877]

The idea is that you’re paying a higher price than the per bottle bulk price because no one wants to buy in bulk.

[@two-to-tango]

@CrazyLegsMcGee my family usually shops at walmart so when i went to costco for the first time in the bigger town i was a bit curious why we bought stuff in bulk lol

[@HibeePin]

Did you watch the whole video? The point is to get an offbrand one

[@awesomebeast7509]

@Kamaldeep Singh Status symbols and false prophets

[@albertoossola1481]

That’s pretty much the whole point of shops

[@buddacreem6877]

@@albertoossola1481 I mean, yeah.

[@liminality101]

Your not paying for the product, your paying for the brand.

[@liminality101]

@nanmoto6548 I wrote this nine months ago, do you really think I care if I spelled “You’re” wrong?

[@budderman3rd]

​@Nan Moto cringe

[@nahman594]

@Nan Moto nerd 🤓

[@muhammadksatriaakbarariend8684]

@Nan Moto great the ordo gramaticcus is here

[@mattv2956]

​@Nan Moto you just posted cringe

[@thethumper088]

This guy: "It's all the same." Project Farm: "We're gonna test that."

[@thatdude8247]

And with these tests we've concluded that the logo isn't worth paying nearly ten times as much for the logo.

[@steveman1982]

Whilst shouting! Seriously, he gets louder every video.

[@shekharmoona544]

Project Farm: Buy the Stanley. 🤣😂🤣

[@austinhall3937]

The literal god Project Farm.

[@aronziegler1814]

And he did test that.

[@loopyzreal]

A little fact, the company that manufactures Hydro Flasks is called FJBottle; and you can get their own made flasks (made in the same factory) for around a fifth of a normal Hydro Flask.

[@nodrvgs]

thanks so much

[@The_DavidGoggins]

not true

[@loopyzreal]

@@The_DavidGoggins is true according to matchory/importyeti

[@elfinstuff8934]

“This isn’t a secret every brand does that” “The markup is higher because they’re buying in bulk for you” This video LITERALLY just explained to you that there are competitors who do the same but price theirs at a much more reasonable price than Hydroflask. Obviously not every brand does this to this degree. Support competitors, everyone.

[@rurome2151]

Thank you for addressing that...

[@yourworstnightmare7343]

& fight against companies monopolising the industry, they can openly rip people off with terrible product when there are no rival businesses.

[@toziassmitt]

I think the majority of smart people know this stuff though, like… status symbols are what they are, we all get it. We all know a bape hoodie works just as well as a Walmart one

[@gummybearvitamins1211]

Not really its 4 dollars in bulk so probably 15-20 for 1 if its a 36 dollar bottle most of it goes to expenses and only a small amount is profit

[@myrezz8833]

Same with brand name vs dollar store/store brand items. I stopped buying name brand otc pain meds because it’s exactly the same. These companies just pay for different colors, labels, etc. but it comes from the same factory.

[@zhongxina8426]

This is a certified Starbucks moment.

[@entropyofallcreation]

I love ur profile pic and name

[@ohapqity]

Bing Chilling 🥶🧊🍦

[@barreBensin]

+50 social credit

[@amazingjasononemillion6999]

Also iPhone

[@AanAntheroNo1]

Can u give me manufactur Number i would like to buy it and sale it in my country

[@UserLev]

Local man discovers how companies pay for their own expenses. Every company in the world does this. Dr. Squatch soap for example. You can buy the base soaps in bulk for like $12 lmao

[@jaymoore2659]

How??? Bc I’m getting ripped off then buying from them so how can I get it for 12?

[@alrath629]

@@jaymoore2659 research who manufacturers it, call them direct. Or find a local homemade soap company that is a small operation and makes it themselves and try the cheaper alternative. Or Amazon homemade soap, there a Canada company I know of that sells on there..

[@UserLev]

@@jaymoore2659 Most companies buy product directly from the original manufacturer in bulk at a discount. The electric supply company I work for does the same thing. We buy parts directly from Siemens, they ship it to us en masse usually, and then we sell it to electricians and electrical companies in the area. A lot of folks really don’t understand how logistics and mark up and profit all tie into each other

[@beanodean4148]

@@UserLev everything's cheaper in bulk. A lot of people would rather buy one of something at a premium vs a bulk order for a discount because you have to spend so much more money up front. And in this case you'd then end up having a bunch of soap you wouldn't need for the foreseeable future

[@UserLev]

@@beanodean4148 I’m not disagreeing with that?

[@pusheenthecat9264]

I can't believe people don't understand that a company needs profit to exist

[@danielroberts8049]

And selling them for nearly 10x their cost when the others are doing it for 5x or less is not how you do that

[@CherryBotV2]

This does not make price gouging okay

[@pusheenthecat9264]

@@danielroberts8049 they put it there for a reason. Making $1 in profit might not be enough to pay for things like expansion, damage, more employees, and so on.

[@danielroberts8049]

@@pusheenthecat9264 10x is a simplification, we’re looking at something like 1,000x

[@OxO1236]

Retried people will keep buying these companies so that they appear rich

[@rubenrar1]

Unfortunately it's about the branding. He's not lying but at the same time I think it's good not to be loyal too much to a brand because it can cause you to miss out what other people are making.

[@crustaceanking3293]

and the "bulk" part means you buy around 1k bottles at 4 bucks a pop

[@tyronetalam8488]

I hardly ever care abt branding status honestly. When i look at brands, it's more on me knowing that this specific brand has the quality im looking for in a product rather than for status

[@eurobeat5332]

Now a red shirt with a word SUPREME painted white in front of the shirt cost a fortune, even tho its just a shirt

[@snugglecity3500]

To a degree. Soem of that is the mark up. Your not gonna buy a $4 flask and then sell it at $5.

[@randylegamer8725]

Hey guys, what do you think is the best VALUE phone? Not that expensive but you get the best

[@nasernaeem9977]

"people love paying for status symbols" Apple nervously breathing

[@magnarcreed3801]

Yep. I just happen to like how apple works with screen and apps. Nothing better over the others though.

[@yourworstnightmare7343]

The only driving force keeping their products selling in the millions coz if consumers cared enough to analyse the product & compare against other products & the features & capabilities you get for a fraction of the cost, as much as they care about what other people think about them then they would yeet those overpriced social media scanners & selfie holders into the nearest landfill faster than apple brick old phones when a new product comes out.

[@sly2792004]

@@yourworstnightmare7343 I’ve compared and nothing beats apple for same features. The inherent defect with android is it has to work on 1000s of devices so it can never take advantage of the more powerful chips and actually drags them down. Like putting a Porsche engine on a go cart.

[@myrezz8833]

I buy apple bc of the familiarity with their products. I get so lost when using my my bf’s Android.

[@4477superman]

@@yourworstnightmare7343 Apple products actually work though. Android phones have tons of features sure but I find they just don’t work as well as a IPhone

[@islarichard2851]

I mean, he’s not wrong. And for everyone saying everyone already knows this, there is always gonna be someone who doesn’t or someone who doesn’t completely understand. This video did a good job breaking it down :)

[@c001Ba30nDuD]

Only people that don't know are kids or they just csme out of a rock. I think every adult should know branding maked anything expensive. If not, they really need to catch up on life.

[@wobblyjiggles]

@@c001Ba30nDuD I mean, it wouldnt hurt to have a video like this JUST in case someone didnt know

[@demonking9415]

Nope people know this but still buys. Like iphone users.

[@XenomorphgamerBR]

@@c001Ba30nDuD it's good to remember anyway

[@js.ht.alo1]

Yeah, I didn’t know this!!

[@markayzenshtadt7200]

Randomly calling someone and asking if they’ll do it “like someone else’s” is a good way to get something that worse than someone else’s.

[@traurigekatze]

To be fair it's implied they're asking the people that manufactures Hydro Flask bottles

[@2econd428]

But he called hydroflasks manufacturer, as long as hydroflask doesn’t have a patent on the technology the same manufacturer could make it identical for any other company

[@Luuute]

When I was in high school the students council or something started selling those metal water bottles, not hydroflask or anything like that just those simple metal water bottles. They were selling them for like 35 bucks a piece and not a single student bought one for multiple reasons 1) Students in our school were mostly broke and the student council were all the rich popular kids so weren't spending that kind of money 2) They sold the exact same bottles at a store 2 blocks away from the school for 2 or 3 bucks Pretty sure they were literally just buying them from the store then trying to sell them for 10-15 times the price. The school logo or name wasn't even on them

[@matemahe]

Sadly they may have paid more bc they didn't understand value of things

[@Favmir]

+having your high school logo on bottle isn't something to brag about, no status symbol present.

[@lukeraimondi7117]

This is literally just how a business selling products works, that's no secret

[@0194D]

This is either a very honest ad or you’re just shittin all over them

[@bentleyv1233]

This is just how brands work. They outsource manufacturing to make the most profit. Average consumer doesnt give a fuck and will happily spend that $35. Plus what normal person is buying in bulk from a Supplier

[@TheRR3D]

He’s shitting on people who buy things out of status.

[@bentleyv1233]

@der id shit in a hydroflask

[@ashleygabriellapladsen]

“People love paying for status symbols”… that’s the realest thing I’ve heard all day😂

[@jordangracepatino]

Stanley girls be like: 😮😍🥰

[@lutoph]

I love the handle/lid more than the bottle itself. It’s why I shelled out for it. I don’t regret a cent because that thing is a joy to carry.

[@casemods]

Check out Stanley. Manna. Etc. Tons of other options. I'm pretty certain there is a version of it for half the price

[@mikedevyatov3213]

Okay now try and actually reach out to the manufacturer of any of these companies. Also, even if you do, be ready to wait for weeks or even months for your shipment of products and have to go through complicated payment processes that require copious amounts of time and patience. If you’ve ever ordered from alibaba, you’ll also know that you only get the cheapest price if you buy literally hundreds or thousands of these products

[@daan8695]

And if you buy from Alibaba you most certainly will not have a product of the same quality! Surely the better quality does not explain the complete price difference, but it does explain some of it.

[@specialopsdave]

Unless you are a large company like Hydroflask, who just has to send an email

[@druid_zephyrus]

Yes that is why/how retail exists. Alternatively, make your own with a simple press.

[@rurome2151]

Has nothing to do with buying in bulk... it addresses retailers who sell the same item but put different brandnames on them... and those who willing pay extra just to sport a specific brand... and not becsuse of any quality difference in the product.

[@mikedevyatov3213]

@@rurome2151 this only applies if you manage to find a retailer that is willing to do the intermediary work for a cheaper price. I’m directly referring to the video to show that it’s actually highly unlikely one would be able to pragmatically buy items directly from a manufacturer on a consistent basis without wasting copious amounts of their own time and likely will end up with roughly the same price anyways. Neither manufacturers or retailers are stupid, they value their time and initial investment enough to not just sell close to production price in single order batches.

[@ExclusiveElii]

Karen: I’m going to call your manager Humphrey: Im going to call your manufacturer

[@jasminebarry2961]

Good one

[@jasminebarry2961]

Good one

[@tigerrx7]

I’ve also tried a few stainless steel bottles, they are NOT all the same. Some will keep your water cold for 2 minutes, some for 8 hours. I like a nice sip of cold water at 1pm

[@artisticgirl3892]

Not to mention the smell of cheap ones like plastic and foul metal odor too that doesn’t go away even after washing it many times

[@baronvonbeandip]

Nice anecdotal evidence bro. Changed my opinion.

[@carryeveryday910]

@@baronvonbeandipHeres some more. I’ve tried about 25 different brands of bottles at this point and hydro flask far and a way has been the best. The cheap $5 one I got from target before worked well but hydroflask kept ice for literally twice the amount of time.

[@jchainz9015]

@@carryeveryday910 yeah but do you live in the wilderness!? Why can’t you find cold water???? People who live in the wilderness can’t afford this bottle. It maybe makes sense for camping that’s the only real use case

[@carryeveryday910]

@@jchainz9015 If you think we all ALWAYS 24/7 have access to ice cold water you are smoking crack. I can always get water sure but if I’m out in public I’d rather not have to buy water when I can just bring it from home. If there is free water it’s usually not very cold and there’s not just a fucking ice machine everywhere you go. What is so hard to understand about this concept? Also no I don’t live in the wilderness but I work in an area that is 30 minutes from the nearest store/restaurant so yes I’d rather have water to last me the day then have to take a hour plus to go PAY for something I could bring for free.

[@josecoronel7938]

I’m gonna be completely honest, I like having name brand stuff that doesn’t do things better than any other brand

[@twisttempo]

cuddah

[@dogebama]

you’re not alone. everyone does, whether they like to admit it or not.

[@josecoronel7938]

@@dogebama yeah people make it seem like it’s such a bad thing, I say let people do what they want if it’s not hurting anybody

[@NotMe-ej9yz]

@Hagen Meyer lmfao

[@camaroman101]

@@dogebama not everyone

[@DaBeast34]

I mean that’s how businesses work. They buy plain products at a massive discount because they buy massive quantities. Then they modify it (in this case not much modification) and resell it for whatever consumers are willing to pay.

[@GynxShinx]

Yes, but that doesn't mean that's how they should work.

[@thenamesjohny1490]

Thank you soo much 💓 💗 💖 I just got my pallet of 1,000 hydro flasks.

[@EM-rc2xs]

Hydro flask does a great job with sourcing materials. Other brands have unfortunately been found to have lead in their bottles. Be careful what you drink!

[@lucasmartin6335]

Well its not "the same" there is a good channel, Project Farm, where he tested a bunch of bottles to determine which was the best/worst/most durable and the difference between bottles is bigger than you would think

[@Serenity800]

I bought an insulated tumbler for like 6 bucks and it's the best ever. It's a beautiful plain one with no logo or anything. It's perfect for minimalist ones. It keeps my drinks cold for hours! It's definitely worth it!

[@xpertvis]

give link

[@trevorsmith8487]

'hey hydroflask why is this bottle $35?' 'suckers' Rinse repeat for every other brand on the planet

[@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275]

I love how honest this is, but also how fair. The company isn't necessarily greedy, and explains that they have costs too that raise the price. Even though there is a good margin that the price is also because of the brand and profit margin

[@7InkredibleTruth7]

Most items are all made from the same factories. They just change the logo for each bussiness. Shop around folks.

[@maYdaY1337]

Yeah. Very common in the PC/gaming space. PSUs, peripherals, gaming chairs and stuff are 90% rebadging work sold for (in case of chairs) up to 500% profit.

[@prasunsingh7746]

But there is a difference in customer service

[@benisjammin626]

There are a few videos that has people testing different thermos brands and seeing which is best. Not all are built the same. Hydroflask is towards the top ranking of the ones tested

[@Anthony-yv5jc]

Project Farm on KZbin is the king of product comparisons

[@casemods]

But how much better is it for the price? If it only keeps ice cold for 30 minutes more, I wouldn't consider that worth 3 times the price.

[@randomvideosofstuffbecause3431]

This is called an upmark in prices that’s another reason, the people that work at hydro flask need to pay other things like employees, bills, etc. like they said! That was an upmark by a lot!

[@al-hex965]

You also have to add in price of shipping and handling as shipping that many bottles (potentially even over seas) can cost more than the bottles themselves.

[@JamesBond-ph6hr]

I never understood why people hate money, commerce and the simplest form of competitive business models and economics. Profit is not a dirty word.

[@cowsshadow]

Some people just value product quality and use over their brand names. People like myself would buy a cheaper water bottle if does the exact same thing as a hydroflask, just without a brand logo. I don't think people hate competitive business models solely for being competitive business models.

[@Distruct10]

Cuz we've lived for millenia without private profit and capitalist economical models are ruining the planet for "profit". they'll do anything if it means "profit" from under payed child miners to dumping waste in the ocean.

[@jeltje50]

Because it often can lead to monopolies or oligarchies. Companies have no moral ethics. They only operate on two rules. Keep their existence certain and maximum profit. So a lot of companies (like Nestlé) just throw ethics out of the window for maximum profit. Another example is ISPs in the USA That practically operate is a monopoly.

[@cowsshadow]

@@jeltje50 I think you meant oligopoly instead of oligarchies, but I wholeheartedly agree with you. Not to mention how companies Luxottica owns practically the whole industry (92% iirc). Diamond cartel literally existed just to artificially increase the price of all diamonds entering the US too. Things like this are probably why people hate "money, commerce, and the simplest form of competitive business".

[@jeltje50]

@@cowsshadow whoops yeah I was thinking of Oligopoly. My mind completely melted these two words together.

[@shleemie2234]

Nike: did they say “paying their manufacturers?” “Why? We use children and Chinese Muslims and still charge 150$ for shit running shoes

[@artypyrec4186]

Logo

[@wilmerfudd4133]

You either forgot a " or you put in an extra "

[@cake6420]

I like paying for practicallity and not status symbols. I couldn't care less what people think of me outside family.

[@elviradensel2906]

Logo is not only for status, logo is for delivering knowledge and information according the product to your brain. It explains you from whom are you buying!

[@juicyjames2074]

“You’re paying for our logo. That’s why it cost so much” or I could just print a sticker of your logo and slap it on a $4 flask.

[@parkershaw8529]

I will print my own logo instead.

[@askmeaboutsugma]

That would technically be counterfeiting, at least if you tried to sell it.

[@dhans9662]

@@askmeaboutsugma Im buying a water bottle not an NFT

[@askmeaboutsugma]

@@dhans9662 It doesn’t matter? Do you think counterfeiting is exclusive to NFT’s?

[@anakinlowground5515]

@@askmeaboutsugma It isn't, because with NFTs, they're worthless images that people "sell" for thousands. The most braindead shit ever.

[@ethanyates28]

Project farm does a test on water bottles and hydro flask does one of the best jobs at keeping liquids insulated

[@casemods]

Not enough to justify the price for me. I'm happy with my $20 manna from Ross that holds like 2 liters.

[@ethanyates28]

@@casemods I actually have a cheap glass water bottle that I prefer to drink out

[@24ecko]

"People love paying for status symbols" just like when people buy Apple and Tesla products.

[@TheGintama86]

Lol apple computer stand only $999 🤣

[@XxCorvette1xX]

crazy that an iphone and a flip phone are the same thing but one has a logo thanks for telling me I’ll go get my old flip phone instead

[@BioTheHuman]

What are the alterndtives to Tesla?

[@TheGintama86]

@@BioTheHuman smart cars xD

[@BioTheHuman]

@@TheGintama86 Which are? And, if they exist, it seems to me that they have same price to Tesla

[@Faronator]

$4 a piece if buy an entire ass container of them. Then you have to wait. Then you have to send half back and wait again for quality control. Then you gotta ship em. Pay for marketing. Deal with returns. If people are willing to pay your margin and like the product - why not? *didn’t even mention employees, overhead (warehouse rent utilities etc)*

[@brycemw]

I literally don’t care about their brand as a status. I hadn’t even heard of them when I bought my bottle. So why did I get it? It was the largest bottle (1.8L) that I could find that is of decent quality. I drink a lot of water and 99% of bottles are 800ml or less which is not enough. I’ve seen cheaper high quality bottles for those sizes but never for something so large. If they are out there, let me know As an aside, for those smaller bottles, the most important thing is the lid. The bottle with my favourite lid was discontinued. I should have bought more because they were pretty cheap.

[@casemods]

Check out Ross dress for less. I have a manna titan 3L that was $24.99 and an outerbanks 128oz that was $30. Been on my shelf 6 months since my $20 manna titan 2L has yet to let me down.

[@akaste4413]

also check the hydro cell brand, they’re the same product as hydroflasks but cheaper!

[@brycemw]

@@akaste4413 thanks!

[@singlelonda8457]

I don't think its only about the brand its also about the warranty of the product as there will always be a big company whose neck we could hold if there is a problem . A normal manufacturers without any branding will not give any sort of warranty in it .

[@joewray143]

Walmart brand hydro flask is 8$, keeps ice solid for two days if not more

[@colorado8382]

Can confirm this as a construction worker who works in the elements all day and heat beams on my water bottle it will literally have ice last in it almost 2 days best 8$ ever spent

[@bobbyhinner3225]

Walmart brand stuff is honestly not that bad these days, i normally go with their stuff first

[@machinist7230]

Hydro flask is a brand name. They're vacuum insulated containers, and they've been around forever - I have a Stanley one meant for coffee made in the late 70s.

[@angelmedina2762]

Great value and equate are great affordable brands.

[@Crunttown]

@@machinist7230 I have a hydroflask as well and people don't realize how wrong they are when they say Hydroflask is the same as any other. I've used over 10 different types of water bottles and hydroflask is the only one I was happy with

[@jams1533]

I’ll be honest here: Hydroflask has AMAZING customer service. Any bottle I’ve purchased and ended up getting dented, Hydroflask has replaced for me. Yes there’s Yeti/Stanley ect but Hydroflask has had my back for YEARS and it’s their customer service is why I keep buying from them.

[@rieviousretrograde4281]

Them "You're paying for our logo. That is why it costs so much." Me "Why would I want a horse head on my water bottle?"

[@ianlyne4417]

Because it's a brand that a lot of people know, so they know you paid a lot for it which in turn means you probably have a lot of money since you can spend money on stupid sht. Simple.

[@Inderastein]

"Why would I buy a phone with an apple bitten on the right and works less powerful than it's previous versions?"

[@firefree5282]

@@Inderastein how is that going to convince aple user

[@aiv4873]

Alright well, it's 4 a bottle buying like 10k pieces, then you've got to ship them all to the dock yard, and put them all on a container. Ship that to your warehouse, the your distributors, who give it to retailers. Pay all the expenses and wages along the way. Not to mention development costs, and other trash companies just copied your design.

[@CAsnowman]

Don’t forget the price of lying to people and claiming your product does something it doesn’t do. That’s the part that rubs me the wrong way

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@CAsnowman what does it claim that it doesnt do?

[@kalabash4952]

This is the exact reason I always end up buying stuff on Aliexpress rather than on Amazon. I will probably wait 10x times so but honestly, I would end up paying 10x times less as well for the very same products. Boycott Amazon

[@BigNnThicc]

Yeah then you get a cheap piece of shit knock off... assuming you get anything at all. Also good luck returning anything or getting a refund. Also name one product that is 10x or even 5x more on Amazon compared to Aliexpress

[@wizard1189]

@@BigNnThicc your mother

[@mildphil]

@@BigNnThicc Amazon is infected with no-name chinese junk that cost as much as name brand products, it makes looking for anything horrible. I regularly order from aliexpress and have had less trouble with them than amazon. On Aliexpress you talk directly to the seller and they will do anything to appease you to keep their ratings high (or risk being banned). Amazon has basically zero customer service, recently took me one month to just get flat out ghosted for a refund after they delivered to the wrong address, their CS sucks. So I would rather buy a $5 product with better CS and wait 2-4 weeks, than buy the same product for $30 on amazon.

[@kalabash4952]

@@BigNnThicc yeah right, the stuff you get on Amazon doesn't absolutely come from the same Chinese factories that make the stuff you find on Alix.. Rofl get lost kiddo

[@AlohaSteve808]

This is so spot on... I went to the HF bottle factory in China and they were making so many competitor flasks.

[@SmokeyWoW]

Just buy the offbrand for $10 and call it day. You don’t need a water bottle that keeps your drink cold for 48 hours or hot for 24.

[@brendorkusaviation8930]

You might, some people need that.

[@user-xi1hu5lk5w]

fr tho, any insulated bottle will do. in reality no one really keeps a drink, hot or cold, for that long, mainly because they already drank it within a couple hours. and for the ‘48 hours for cold’ seems really pointless tbh and the taste of your beverage might change, like stick any insulated bottle in the fridge at the end of the day then in the morning you got a cold beverage that’ll last you for the remainder your day (6-12+ hours)

[@butwhy.5498]

@@brendorkusaviation8930 can you name one job that requires me to keep my one single drink cold or warm for 48 hours my coffees are gone in an hour and that's a slow day.

[@brendorkusaviation8930]

@@butwhy.5498 Not for a job. But imagine you constantly go camping, and are an outdoor person. Having warm drinking water sucks.

[@SmokeyWoW]

@@brendorkusaviation8930 that would be the only situation that people would need something like this for but 95% of people who buy them don’t use them for camping. But yeah if you’re camping the old school way (don’t have an RV with a fridge) then yeah i could understand buying one of the better brands

[@GolgariGymBro]

Hydro flask, Apple, probably a few "high end" cars, Beats, Jordans, etc. The list goes on.

[@VeniVidiAjax]

So what? People make the price. No one wants it? It’s cheap, creating demand. Everyone wants it? Raises the price also because of demand,

[@GolgariGymBro]

@@VeniVidiAjax It's artificially inflated demand because the logo is associated with quality. Even though other companies make the same, or better, quality items for cheaper.

[@BangMaster96]

You’re never gonna by these bottles in bulk, the manufacturer wouldn’t sell you the bottle for $4 if you only buy a single one.

[@wehappyfew4246]

This is true lol I found a bottle like this at Burlington for 5.99 !!!! It’s called hydraflow

[@sandra3637]

How long does it keep the ice?

[@kobeyftw1789]

“People love paying for status symbols.” Omfg😂

[@zzanatos2001]

That is kind of true. I teach high school, and almost every kid has a brand new iPhone and super expensive sneakers - even if they are from a poor family.

[@unapersonaqualunque8422]

In my country people dont care about a stupid logo. Why care about theese things?

[@Scotford_Maconochie]

100% true. You can buy an Invicta watch for $150 or a Rolex for $15,000

[@schwendi94]

Americans do

[@Winnepacaca]

​@@schwendi94 everyone

[@itsevelynnbabez]

“People love buying with status symbols” *me who constantly covers up a fast food drink with a napkin*

[@margaretmackie]

What you just said made no sense at all. It's like you're in a state of deep dissociation and decided to write a comment.

[@itsevelynnbabez]

@@margaretmackie Great job trying to be quirky and break the fourth wall as if you’re comment was so incredibly ingenious that you thought a negative response to my comment instead of leaving it alone was a good idea.

[@NetoSEP]

wow i didn't know a company had to profit off of their product in order to stay in business thank you for this important information.

[@darneikhum2008]

💀

[@justsomeguywholikesanimes]

Aquaflask be like: I am you, but better

[@luckyrandomized4804]

"...Our technology insults water better than others.." Hydroflask to water: You suck !

[@FflawedMetalhead]

I received a Yeti as a birthday gift (I pushed carts for a living, so it was very thoughtful). Ended up covering the bottle in stickers like most people, so you couldn't even see the logo - Come to find out it was like $50 - I thought it was like maybe $15 at most.

[@glowinthedark9082]

People love trust and quality in a brand based on their experiences. When a company kills that experience, it dies for that customer

[@xMister.Misterx]

That manufacturer was very helpful! He went above and beyond the call of duty giving him that information! He deserves 5 stars on google

[@Drusopp]

You forgot the fact that $4 per piece is with minimum order quantity of 10,000pcs per bulk order.

[@HughJanus23]

I did young enterprise and we sold these bottles we ordered in from Shanghai, and it was around $5.00 per bottle, and we bought around 60 bottles. It was still $5.00 per bottle even if you were getting one

[@danielkirby8355]

Thank you!

[@danielkirby8355]

@@HughJanus23 WTF am I going to do with 60 hydroflasks!?

[@higrunt9844]

@@danielkirby8355 they always somehow seem to break easily

[@cloudgirl131]

But...I've bought a lot of water bottles and haven't found one as good as hydrolysis. It literally is one of the best water bottles I've purchased 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@husklo]

Yeah I love my Hydroxide bottle too

[@passionatemelon6627]

Same, and plus they started in my town so might as well support them

[@husklo]

@@passionatemelon6627 OH that's great my hydroxyl serves me well

[@husklo]

I like to use my hydrogen bottle more than any other bottle It's just so great 👍

[@espressonoob]

the money you pay is blinding your judgement lol

[@froeloe]

ah, “status symbols” - things that humans value the most. ever so useful and helpful to society. display it and flaunt it. shiny. show it off. but the things is, not all that glitters is gold.

[@TheTastyMarmot]

Yea, sometimes it’s hydroflask bottles

[@vogelvogeltje]

Sometimes it’s religion

[@oniemployee3437]

You'd be surprised how many people buy things for the branding on it. Likely truth is that Hydroflask is bought out of convenience rather than the branding on it, though.

[@froeloe]

@@vogelvogeltje religion of flaunt

[@WimsicleStranger]

Like how people buy that ‘Supreme’ crap despite the clothes being cheap trash with a logo slapped on them.

[@gibbysfinalform6435]

Truely a groundbreaking discovery. Until today, I had no idea that businesses do infact try to make money. 💀💀💀

[@Spy_Agent5]

However, this isn't really a secret, that is just how a business works.

[@Orcus.Arcana]

This is literally just how basic buisnesses work, glasses frames are very cheap to make but tend to be expensive because of the branding, my old frames were more expensive than the actual lens

[@conlash]

”Ha! I’ll go buy in bulk” ”Great! Soo the bulk consists of 10,000 bottles and that’ll be… $40.000”

[@normienormie9425]

"Hey Hydroflask why is this bottle 35$?" "Money" I know where you live

[@SiloTheatrix]

Thak you hdyroflakd, for overpissed botler

[@normienormie9425]

@@SiloTheatrix 39.01W 289N

[@Kumo-Yume]

Yeah so do i

[@shronkler1994]

@@normienormie9425 🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@normienormie9425]

@@shronkler1994 "Yes I use an emoji to insult people. Why do you ask?

[@jezreelderige6468]

Yeah, I heard that too from people who own a hydroflask saying that hydroflask can keep the water temperature for longer, but not for me, I know how it works, a cheaper brand can do the job as long as it meets the requirements..

[@steamfanboy7536]

I love how he talks like he just discovered the americas

[@stevenyang2192]

Wish I could buy a car “through the manufacturer” so there’s no company logos and decals 😅😅😅

[@tanimrahman2051]

There’s no such thing 😂😂😂😂

[@Whisty]

"People love paying for status symbols" You just defined iPhone users in one sentence

[@chocolatethedog5085]

Love your pfp

[@triiiiique]

Idk out of all the water bottles I have had my hydro flasks for years and they’re still perfect

[@high_sky_acsension244]

It’s not the company’s fault. It’s just business

[@ookipuki]

Ehh. It's more a jab at ppl willing to pay thousands and hundreds for .... brand names . Cause. Look at me I have money. 😂

[@NotRxsario]

In real life “hey hydroflask, whys this so much?” Guy: stfu

[@zigmaster5199]

Damn man just explained what making a profit is

[@redtortoise]

31$ profit is called a scam.

[@smeagle1433]

​@@redtortoise gotta remember that this is bulk buying, so they are getting probably thousands of bottles which costs thousands of dollars for that discount Plus they are paying for shipping, branding, putting that branding on, product placement, staff, etc If your just looking to buy one of their bottles, your paying more than that $4 plus it'll just be bare metal. Your are gonna have a room full them if you want that discount. its not a scam. Just overpriced and stupid

[@takezomiyamoto1390]

and... he's absolutely right. You are able to have great products because there's a big market and we can mass produce things. Being cheap at bulk doesnt mean it's bad, and doesnt mean you shouldnt pay much more money for it as an individual.

[@griffinwilliams6000]

the REAL reason it’s priced so expensive is cause of branding. Take Gucci, they can make that t shirt u want for around 3 dollars, yet the branding of a Gucci shirt makes it 100. 😁

[@Ljorf]

"You aren't paying for the product you're paying for the brand" -someone idk

[@mybrainhurts2213]

“Harley Davidson” I rest my case!

[@maYdaY1337]

since when does Harley do rebadging? and what cheap motorcycle is hidden under the logo?

[@ramsesvasquez2131]

Go to russia, ITS all about the catss

[@Arsectral]

Hydroflask, Aquaflask, Thermoflask

[@sneak916]

That’s literally every product sold

[@tavern2468]

Think of the extremely low quality and cost to make a McDouble if they’re willing to sell it to you for just a dollar + 🥴🥴

[@elite5220]

I’m guilty of owning one..

[@Rinyotsu]

And this is the best lesson my mom taught me. Store brand is basically the exact same thing as popular brand.

[@IAMBoker]

*In real life* You: can I buy this bottle from you? Manufacturer: no, they have a patent and we can't sell to you, because we're bound by contract.

[@riba2233]

Not really in this case

[@stolenscorcher3661]

Like my father always says; "you're not paying for the product, you're paying for the brand name"

[@thing4826]

Yeah... I have noticed that mostly with food items. If anything the main brand can actually be lower quality AND more expensive. (I am looking at you pop-tarts)

[@Ignasimp]

You are paying for plenty of things. A brand name only gets big because they did something well, whatever that is. Maybe they were nicer when dealing with people, maybe they were faster at delivering or whatever.

[@TigerBl00d]

Great break down. I own one. When it breaks or leaks, imma do what he just did.

[@Axekel_18]

I own one for over 3 years and I would say Hydroflask is the iphone for tumblers. It's pricey but it's worth buying if you have money. It's durable and the materials are not cheap. I've dropped it many time and it didn't scratch it.

[@Big-Papa-Smurf]

The manufacturer wouldn't be giving up that information without a fight.

[@lavaphoenix753]

"Ppl love paying for status symbols." -Apple Inc.

[@No-oo8nm]

More like android inc

[@lavaphoenix753]

@@No-oo8nm apples whole thing is charging 10x what it's worth for a worse product

[@BirdLoverBulgaria]

Bro saying fax

[@antonfedorak5408]

​@@No-oo8nm Dawg what? 💀

[@No-oo8nm]

@@lavaphoenix753 idk what’s worse abt iPhones honestly. I have an iPhone rn and I’m really ok with it, haven’t encountered any problems so far since I have it. I used to have a Samsung S10 like 3 yrs ago until I switched to iPhones and nothing seems to have changed. Only the fact that Samsung stops updates on their phones way faster. 2 years with it and then no more updates. The iPhone 6 launched in 2014 and received updates until last year for iOS 15, that’s like 7 years of updates. Plus the battery life seems to be similar on both phones. My iPhone lasts around a full day and some hours more while using it after a full charge, which I’m not disappointed of.

[@teangawarumatetaka6125]

This is BS. Most people dont buy from the manufacture because you buy in bulk, and have a MOQ. So even if the manufacture sells it at $4 a pop, the MOQ is guaranteed to be around 50-100.

[@CloudKXII]

Obviously you dont directly buy from a manufacturer just search for a reseller.

[@parker5548]

@@CloudKXII right, but the reseller won't be selling it for only $4. Get it?

[@teangawarumatetaka6125]

@@CloudKXII Exactly what Parker Miller said.