What if "4th Parties" Made it in Smash?

[@JasonGodwin69]

Sherlock Holmes and Jesus Christ for Smash

[@MasterofMonkeys13]

I love how you went from a fictional detective to the son of god himself

[@Sybry605]

Jesus is like a 5th party

[@MalachiCo0]

This man trying to stirr the pot with this one

[@Baconator2558]

The jump from "fictional characters from things other than video games" to (depending on whom you ask) "either historical figure or the literal son of *God"* is crazy.

[@promaster424]

It would be hilarious if Mickey's final smash was calling the main character of every IP Disney owns just so they can run over his opponent

[@achmnderson]

And call it "Disney Masturbation"

[@retrozaid1600]

Unironically Shrek sorta does have a connection to Nintendo via Universal as they own Dreamworks and the Nintendo theme park rights & Mario film rights

[@Decyphvr]

I completely forgot about the Nintendo theme parks lol

[@NEEDbacon]

Also, Shrek DOES have a his own "Smash" Knock off. Even has a community after it was ran as a joke only for Tech to be found.

[@retrozaid1600]

Well it’s more of a power stone clone than smash

[@suspiciousvivi]

Guys, the word "4th party" doesn't exist. All the characters are third party, no matter where they come from. Heck, there are non-gaming Nintendo characters (like Nester!)

[@Decyphvr]

Cant forget Captain N!

[@glauciarochelle]

now exist the word "4th party"

[@suspiciousvivi]

@@glauciarochelle Smash fans invented the word "Fourth party" smh

[@me-xz8zf]

Speaking of Nester, aren't he and the main guy from Pilotwings 64 the same character?

[@Decyphvr]

@me-xz8zf Found out his name is Lark, he just has a striking resemblance to Nester lol

[@skyt-cl4si]

0:34 Lucario: Am I a joke to you?

[@Decyphvr]

Lmao showing up a gen early is crazy. I wonder how many Pokemon have done that by now lol

[@BomberDuck]

@@Decyphvrusually one per generation shows up early

[@Trinsid]

If there was a crossover game franchise to do it, it would be Smash

[@dippin4dots]

Soul Caliber, Mortal Kombat, Tekken etc

[@pizzajohn4434]

fortnite

[@jatlistheoctopusofficial]

cool list unfortunately we may never have a 4th party character in Smash The fandom itself is very demanding with video game characters that they want to see, just imagine what would happen when they announce a movie or series character to the game...

[@Decyphvr]

Thanks! I dont think it will ever happen, I personally am on the same boat keeping smash bros as a celebration of gaming. Just thought it would be a cool video idea to make and thanks for watching!

[@jatlistheoctopusofficial]

@@Decyphvr No problem, great video! and thats right, I think that was Sakurai and Nintendo's idea since the creation of the first game, a celebration of video games, I don't know how or why they came to consider Golden Eye in Smash, but it just stayed that way, a consideration.

[@cutekyuu1]

@jatlistheoctopusofficial i imagine its more because they never considered the they have to be originated from games rule and considered games with historical value like 007 or the dbz games as eligable

[@jatlistheoctopusofficial]

@@cutekyuu1 ohhh now that makes sense

[@superplushtiman7ti075]

Debate who can get in until the sun goes down

[@hahahaani]

3:18 bamco actually developed all of sm4sh and ult, with sakurai as the director

[@me-xz8zf]

Popeye only being an honorable mention is crazy, considering he was the main inspiration for Mario and Donkey Kong. Nintendo even made a Popeye arcade game, which was later ported to the NES as part of the black box collection. I’d personally also add a few more characters: -The TMNT: I’d argue the turtles are some of the most connected 4th-party characters to Nintendo. They have a ton of iconic games on the NES, SNES, and Game Boy. Turtles in Time was huge on the SNES and is often considered one of the best beat-’em-up games of all time. -Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck: The Looney Tunes have a rich history with Nintendo since the NES era. Their slapstick, chaotic energy, and cast of wacky characters fit perfectly with Smash and Nintendo’s overall style. Honestly, it’s clear that Nintendo was influenced by the Looney Tunes in some ways, especially with some of their slapstick humor and character designs. -Snoopy: Snoopy has had a fair number of games on Nintendo consoles, and some Game & Watch titles. Snoopy is also kinda huge in Japan, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it had influence on EarthBound, especially given the art style similarities. In fact, some characters in the first Mother game even had to be cut because they resembled Peanuts characters too closely. -Doraemon: One of the biggest Japanese icons, even appearing alongside Mario during the Tokyo 2020 presentation of the Rio 2016 closing ceremony. The series also has a good amount of games on Nintendo hardware.

[@Decyphvr]

I may have to make a part 2 to this video, I wasn't expecting the video to do this well seeing as im such a small channel lol. I have more ideas in mind too, I will likely take alot of comment suggestions aswell!

[@dippin4dots]

4:54 Erm Akshually 🤓 There were a couple spinoff persona Games on the 3DS before Joker’s release for Smash. Those being Persona Q 1 and 2

[@Decyphvr]

Lol yeah, I wouldn't count spin offs tho.

[@mrmach2741]

Mickey gives you an allergic reaction and recieves no consequences

[@TKG785]

Imagine the screaming if Captain N got into Super Smash Bros.

[@LostwaveEnjoyer-2009]

Hype

[@r3n3gad33]

I wish I live in the timeline where 007 was in Melee otherwise the newest Smash game would have legends like Spider-Man, Jesse Pinkman, Don Draper, Scott Pilgrim, Ben 10, King Aragorn, Wow Wow Wubbzy, Mr. Frog, The Verminator, Zaphod Beeblebrox, Tim & Moby, Light Yagami, Chavo Del Ocho, Rorschach, The Angry Video Game Nerd, Yukon Cornelius, The Energizer Bunny, Mike Wazowski, Wallace & Gromit, Ash Williams, The Mad Hatter, Jerma, Abed Nadir, My Chemical Romance, SCP-049, Paul Atreides, The Grinch, Steve-O, El Santo, Pepsi Man, and Chowder!

[@skyt-cl4si]

I feel like the main reason James Bond didn't make into smash was because he had guns, but now you have characters like Joker etc. So...

[@Decyphvr]

Yep, as far back as Brawl with Snake! I think the biggest issue with James Bond though would have been getting the likeness of one of the actors who played the character.

[@superplushtiman7ti075]

Not to mention Rare lost the licence to produce official Bond Games to EA starting with Tomorrow Never Dies

[@padriazozzriaorizifian8672]

@@Decyphvr to be fair, Snake didn't use actual guns, just explosives and such.

[@KleverKid16]

This'll be the only way to top Ultimate for Smash 6

[@Gigoogy]

Very fun idea to kinda do smash vs other characters that arent necessarily video game characters. Maybe a smash vs marvel could be acceptable for example. Nintendo can definitely make other fictional characters work for smash, just make it distinct that they aren't game characters

[@Pk-glitch]

Cal Kestis from Jedi fallen order would be the perfect Star Wars pick as he originated from a game, and has by far the most moveset potential as he can use 4 different lightsaber forms, and on top of that he has loads of outfits and lightsaber colours that would be perfect for alts, and BD1 would make for some great taunts.

[@MyYouTubeRocks]

Well, my 2018 self said that I wanted SpongeBob in Smash, but Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl (2) happened, and now SpongeBob's got his own moveset related to Smash

[@welchrebooted4739]

I would add Strider Hiryu and Turok to the list since just like Geralt from Witcher, they are more known for their game appearances than their Manga or Comic appearances.

[@alphamarigi]

6:09 baby boomers outnumber us chief. That's what the baby boom was.

[@Megalixir64]

I guess one more character that I would add on this is the Mobile Suit Gundam mech as Bandai Namco actually owns the franchise

[@Avriel_Mimiga]

"persona didn't ha-" no you're wrong! there was one on 3DS Persona Q2: New Cinema Labyrinth, and that one had Joker

[@Decyphvr]

Yeah lol, I wouldnt count the spinoff titles tho lol

[@BBsRapBattles]

I like this list, but I feel like one major character is missing- a public domain character. Think about it- Sakurai has always liked innovating with movesets, and making things up. He’s been doing that since Smash 64, with Fox and Falcon. This character’s entire moveset could be made up, due to having zero limitations on them. They would also be recognizable to nearly everybody, as they’ve probably appeared in tons and tons of games already, due to not having the need to license them. This extends to Nintendo- they get one of the most iconic characters ever for free! My personal pick for this slot would be Dracula, due to his heavy connections to video games, large moveset potential, and long-standing popularity. You can even give him a skin that references Castlevania’s Dracula in Ultimate!

[@ProGremlinPlayer]

If that smash 4 ballot happened today it would instead be filled with garbage shitposts asking for Pomni and Skibidi Toilet.

[@Decyphvr]

Thats true lol

[@davidvkimball]

Wonderfully, expectedly cursed.

[@wallygator92]

Nintendo actually did make a Popeye game in 1982.

[@SM64002]

I misread the opening as the video not being for fun and being actual speculation. lol

[@robbycooper6787]

Imagi e the joke characters from this universe, i talked with erin hunter to add jayfeather, i talked with adult swin to add the fish from american dad, i talked with my biss aboug how he is becoming p,ayable in smash, and u added the landlord that mario was named after to smash

[@theterribleclaw4285]

Boss from Republic Commando in Smash Bros would be legendary!

[@Karson-Duh-Fox]

Well we could still get fourth party characters but here my idea for it Just have them use the video game version of that character Like say Spider Man we could get Insomniac's version of the web head

[@Decyphvr]

I originally had insomniacs Spider Man in the honourable mentions, but I cut him bc insomniacs spiderman had no Nintendo connection. I would have also included Arkham Batman but didnt plan it originally.

[@opadrip]

Yeah, or give them moves purely based on their video games, like giving Spongebob that bowling ball bubble from the Movie game and BFBB as a side special or something.

[@y0av359]

Bro forgot hatsune miku

[@opadrip]

We were so close to this being a reality.

[@brockthebananabruiser2819]

an interesting topic from a small youtuber? lovely!

[@Decyphvr]

I am glad you liked my idea! Thanks for watching!

[@Swagtuna12]

truly this would be THE perfect universe

[@batboythecool]

Y'know if the character has to be from a video game theres a loophole for dragon ball. Just add android 21 into smash since she's a videogame original for dbfz

[@KKHell]

I don't even like Smash Bros but them pulling off a Gundam (or Super Robot Wars OG mech, going by the Agumon loophole) would be wild.

[@MarkiplierMeatMuncher8]

They should add Decy as a 4th party in Smash Bros tbh

[@Decyphvr]

Ill let Sakurai know don't worry

[@spongebobfan78]

2:52 I mean, we have the Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl games proving that he indeed does have potential.

[@seanelmlinger2052]

I’m in shock that you could actually go this far😮😮

[@kyledavid9415]

Luke Skywalker and Snoopy in Smash would be the best thing ever

[@treystewart731]

I don't believe Godzilla has had any games on the Switch. As far as i know, the last Godzilla game released on a Nintendo console was Godzilla: Unleashed back on the Wii.

[@Decyphvr]

Yep you are correct. I think I was looking at the Gigabash DLC lol

[@donkeykong6426]

Godzilla would be a nice pick I imagine people losing it *HUGELY*

[@AJTheSilence]

Godzilla and Son Goku are two of my wants in the smash roster lol the only problem about these two are they are hard to aquire except for Godzilla because Im starting to see more Toho Godzilla collabs but for Goku rarely have I ever seen Dragon ball collab with any games well except for Fortnite and Pubg for some reason if these actually gets in smash everything changes.

[@supervector4757]

What about fifth party characters (real-life people)?

[@Decyphvr]

My top 5: Mike Tyson Bruce Lee Jackie Chan Muhammed Ali Reggie Fils Aime

[@criticalspectrum8383]

Spider-Man in smash bros

[@sonjojodash1085]

Regardless of what we got in smash, this was a fun video to watch, and hey mods exist quality may vary

[@tietunes]

Nice video idea!

[@Decyphvr]

Thanks! Glad you liked the video idea!

[@tietunes]

@Decyphvr you may just have a sub coming...

[@Decyphvr]

You are awesome, thank you so much!

[@izzy1349]

I think Cal Kestis would be interesting

[@tixol9985]

I have been thinking if characters that originated from video games but their franchise didn't could be added to smash.

[@DarkRen08-]

Last night I james bond 🍔

[@EudaemonYoutube]

Tbh they’d probably do like a Japanese mascot since typically Japanese series cross over with mascots (think Kumamon in Yo-Kai Watch) so maybe there would be a 4th Party spirit to represent the Olympics.

[@EudaemonYoutube]

And I suppose Dr Kawashima counts as a 5th party lol

[@chrismcleod5876]

Where's Santa on this list

[@SmollRuby]

Oh I love those ideas! At least we got the lego Harry Potter game for the switch

[@Tsuna_Dokkan]

Peter griffin 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@Happysecret180]

I would love Godzilla to be in smash (never gonna happen tho) That or a new pipeworks style game (if you know you know)

[@ruffeboi7304]

If this happened I would DEFINITELY add a Lego character. Not so much for gameplay but more because the Lego games are super iconic and beloved, and have a long history (older than Smash 64). Maybe Emmet would be a good pick?

[@Decyphvr]

Chase McCain would be cool! He is a Lego video game character by definition, so it would likely fit better than Emmet.

[@ruffeboi7304]

@@DecyphvrHe'd absolutely be great fit, but I thought considering the whole theme of this video I might as well choose one of the more widespread Lego characters. And to be fair the most famous Lego character would probably be Lego Yoda or someone like that, but at that point just add normal Yoda lol

[@IkeReviews]

Gru and minions could work similar to rosalina and luma

[@Decyphvr]

Thanks for checking out my channel and watching the video! Who would you like to see to be added to Smash?

[@marquezmartinez7580]

How about Superman? He’s essentially the first person that comes to mind whenever superheros are mentioned.

[@Decyphvr]

I would argue that Batman and Spiderman dominate the gaming space for superheroes more, but if were going with the comic book character, its Supes.

[@wallygator92]

What about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? They had a lot of popular games on NES and SNES!

[@Decyphvr]

Yess! I loved Turtles in Time

[@thearmchairgamer2668]

I would add a Wanner Bros character(And no Harry Potter doesn't count) I'm thinking more Bugs Bunny, Batman, Tom and Jerry, Scooby-Doo, Ben 10, Powerpuff Girls, Finn and Jake etc

[@averelldalton7964]

Why would Harry Potter not count?

[@thearmchairgamer2668]

@averelldalton7964 It's complicated Wanner only owns Harry's movie rights

[@Decyphvr]

JK Rowling was smart and made a deal with Warner, which gives her more control over her own IP. Warner owns the rights to the movie, but Rowling owns the characters themselves.

[@Hodger88]

Lowkey, what does "4th party" even mean? Edit: Oh licensed

[@ECartmanist]

No Darth Vader?

[@redi.c.e.6046]

Listen, I’ll say this- I’ll stand by it that it just would seem not right, and just impure for 4th parties to get in, at this point anyway, so it oughta not happen. BUT hey, IF the DID happen, then at LEAST, suddenly, Hatsune Miku could get in, and at least that’d be good by me.

[@Decyphvr]

I agree with you, it would not feel right at all lol, but after Ultimate the innovation runs slim for a next installment. Realistically to me the next step would be cutting the roster and giving as many characters the Fighter Pass DLC level of treatment. As cool as having non game characters in Smash would be, I doubt it would even happen in a reboot or next installment Miku would be an interesting character to have tho ngl

[@redi.c.e.6046]

@Decyphvr and ofc, I say her specifically because, and this was in my mind while thinking, I just completely forgot to type it, as far as I’d be concerned (well, it wouldn’t be happening at ALL, but if we’re talking hypotheticals and it was gonna happen, then), it WOULD still have to be characters that DO still have prominent vg series, like goku or spider man or whatever, so ofc Miku’s my first in line since she fits the bill still

[@liamfunnyman6965]

Sam & Max Hatsune Miku Bugs Bunny Spider-Man

[@Karson-Duh-Fox]

Now do what of Playstation characters got in Smash Bros

[@cutekyuu1]

decy should be in smash

[@Decyphvr]

Lol im flattered

[@RADFILMS-z6h]

Batman and superman for smash

[@minervagil7276]

Can you add link characters

[@Decyphvr]

Do you mean characters I think should be added to Smash Bros from the Legend of Zelda?

[@jootersblaccat]

?

[@beastvicious8672]

I think this would just open up to a whole can of worms. Smash would go from a celebration of video games to being an internet meme with no identity. With that being said, your picks here were pretty cool and well thought out in theory. I do think Geralt could still make it in smash becouse the games has far outgrown the books and the games are also loosely based on the books. Enough to where the games follows it's own story. There are also other smash characters that has taken inspiration from stories and other characters that isn't from a video game. He is a big enough gaming icon to make it in smash i think. Agumon is also very tricky. They could add him if they really wanted, as Digimon was originally a video game franchise although very loosely. But there's another problem with adding him in becouse i don't think people would really just want Agumon alone. If they were to add him, they would have to add Greymon and WarGreymon. The whole appeal of Digimon is being able to digivolve, otherwise there's no point adding him. Unlike Pokemon, Digimon can turn back into their lesser forms. That would mean Smash would have to create 3 characters, in order to add in Agumon. Who is already a pretty niche pick. I just don't see them go through so much trouble to have Agumon in the game.

[@Decyphvr]

Im glad you thought my picks were pretty cool and well thought out! Im happy Smash didn't go down that route, but im a little bummed we didn't get Donald or Goofy with Sora. Out of any of them, Geralt for sure has the best shot, and maybe Agumon due to being more "gamey" but not as popular ofc

[@tylerharper5306]

I hope the next smash isn’t made by sakurai

[@Decyphvr]

I agree! Smash Ultimate was his Magnum Opus, so I doubt it can be topped. I love what Sakurai has done, but I am intruiged to see what will happen if someone else takes the helm.