What if Britain invaded Russia? Hoi4 Alt History Operation Unthinkable

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@enrixosjjdjd187
@enrixosjjdjd187 Ай бұрын
What if Stalin lost the post lenin power struggle to Trotsky?
@thattigercat
@thattigercat Ай бұрын
Then you've got a bolshevik jew trying to foment violent communist uprisings across the world and especially in Europe and history gets written very very differently
@8-bitstream379
@8-bitstream379 Ай бұрын
@enrixosjjdjd187 Firstly, trotsky was not a likely candidate to succeed lenin. Even if he was, lenin gave stalin a massive position of power on purpose, because he seemed to trust stalin. Stalin was actually the person who visited lenin the most in his sickness. Rykov or Bukharin were more likely candidates to replace lenin than trotsky was.
@wilbysot343
@wilbysot343 Ай бұрын
@@8-bitstream379 lenin didnt trust stalin in the slightest, thats why he actually wasnt given any real position of power, its more how stalin used his position as secretary to manipulate soviet politics which later gave him the ability to rise to power you are right though, immediately following lenin's death, stalin did everything in his power to prevent trotsky from ascending to power, and likely lost his chance within the first year or two, and rykov, bukharin, zinoviev, kirov among others were more likely candidates later in soviet history
@adamelghalmi9771
@adamelghalmi9771 Ай бұрын
trotsky would have made the USSR opps with the entire world lol
@enrixosjjdjd187
@enrixosjjdjd187 Ай бұрын
@@8-bitstream379 sure I just want to see a scenario where Stalinism was replaced by internationalist „trotskyism“, Idc who exactly the leader may be
@Sooper-Pumpkin
@Sooper-Pumpkin Ай бұрын
Idea: What if Republican Spain (somehow) won the Spanish civil war and declared war on Germany at the start of operation Barbarossa
@Kuwaiti_with_gun
@Kuwaiti_with_gun Ай бұрын
Underrrated
@WaterZer0
@WaterZer0 Ай бұрын
Amazing. Hope it wins the poll.
@michaeltengrootenhuysen5732
@michaeltengrootenhuysen5732 Ай бұрын
It could open a lot of possibilities what if the soviets didn't screw as much with the republicans or that they were able to hold their ground in the west so that the nationalist front stayed split. The possibilities are endless
@JayneTeeter
@JayneTeeter Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure this wouldn't have significantly impacted the overwhelming success of Barbarossa, as most of northern Spain borders Vichy France, and the natural barrier of the Pyrenees would have prevented any serious invasion attempts. However the political influence that Germany had in that region would definitely lessen.
@elseggs6504
@elseggs6504 Ай бұрын
​@@JayneTeeter It wouldve made them station more troops in France at the very least
@ajaxghosted5540
@ajaxghosted5540 Ай бұрын
What if the Kaiser remained in power after losing ww1
@theshadowdimension62
@theshadowdimension62 Ай бұрын
I hope this goes hella far
@RosemaryThe845
@RosemaryThe845 Ай бұрын
Revolution prob
@TopatTom
@TopatTom Ай бұрын
Thats like saying “what if napoleon swam back from saint halena and then became emperor of france again.” But both are cool to think about.
@jimtalbott9535
@jimtalbott9535 Ай бұрын
@@TopatTomBut that’s why he’s offering it here as a suggestion, NOT as a “what-if?” to be answered.
@Ksescel
@Ksescel Ай бұрын
Like Japan?
@Spanishinquisition98
@Spanishinquisition98 Ай бұрын
What if Oswald Mosley came to power in the UK? Im not giving up, and I really just wanna see stakuyi talk about Mosley, if Im honest
@beavernation57
@beavernation57 Ай бұрын
Yes!
@michaeltengrootenhuysen5732
@michaeltengrootenhuysen5732 Ай бұрын
Me too, he's just very intresting to talk about and study.
@tylermorrison420
@tylermorrison420 Ай бұрын
Good idea
@someonewhonooneseverheardo5271
@someonewhonooneseverheardo5271 Ай бұрын
He's technically already done this
@8-bitstream379
@8-bitstream379 Ай бұрын
Hoi4 oswald mosley is kind of inaccurate honestly.
@michaeltengrootenhuysen5732
@michaeltengrootenhuysen5732 Ай бұрын
What if instead of the schlieffenplan, germany held at Elsace Lotharingia and went east to capture the wheatfields of the Oekraïne to counteract the food shortages of the naval blockade , then pushes to the Urals to quickly capture Russias industrie and capitulate Russia so they can then focus completely on the western front. (Call it operation Frederick) Edit:thx for the 200 likes, it means a lot Edit 2: 250 likes,Jesus. This probably makes it one of the suggestions, so Stakuyi if you're reading this: You can't escape the great war redux mod stakuyi. We yearn for the great war redux mod stakuyi. The great war redux is love. The great war redux is life. Probably last edit: thanks for the 300 likes. It would've been an honour to have been one of the options, even if it would've most likely lost. It just sucks that stakuyi decided to skip these suggestions as all of them are really cool.
@DieHeiligeSchüssel
@DieHeiligeSchüssel Ай бұрын
Thats actually interesting
@MrKangaroo123
@MrKangaroo123 Ай бұрын
that is actually a really interesting scenario: are we talking ww1 or 2 or the coming 3rd world war??
@n00b5lay3r
@n00b5lay3r Ай бұрын
Perhaps they'll call it Operation Karl der Große (Carl the Great aka Charlemagne)
@michaeltengrootenhuysen5732
@michaeltengrootenhuysen5732 Ай бұрын
​​@@DieHeiligeSchüssel thanks man, my history class went over the first world war and the main reasons why it capitulated and personally this fixes most of them, yes the spanish flu shall still happen and the other central powers are still as weak, but there'll be almost no food shortages, which means less civil unrest. Plus i'm sure that the war will end sooner this way, as with both Austrian and German focus on Russia, Russia will fall faster, which means that the experienced troops of the eastern front are earlier at the western front, where the entente didn't get as experienced, seeing as the German troops don't attack and just hold their positions. This ends the war quicker thus hopefully preventing the devastating effect on morale that was the American intervention.
@michaeltengrootenhuysen5732
@michaeltengrootenhuysen5732 Ай бұрын
​@@MrKangaroo123 The first , as the food shortages had the biggest impact in that one
@OtterSpace975
@OtterSpace975 Ай бұрын
Hey, that gives me an idea. What if there was no appeasement?
@bop1k
@bop1k Ай бұрын
the oster conspiracy maybe
@adamelghalmi9771
@adamelghalmi9771 Ай бұрын
@@bop1k i like oyster sandwich
@jpc347
@jpc347 Ай бұрын
One point of note for the video: Allied and Soviet divisions were not equal in terms of size. A standard Soviet rifle division had about 9500 troops in it at full nominal strength while the average American division was 15,000 men strong. So while the Soviets may have had a 2x nominal divisional strength advantage in the European theatre the actual manpower difference was much less. Then there's the fact that this is nominal strength that we're talking about with many of those Soviet divisions being battered and bruised from many years of intense fighting in Europe. The advantage was still on the Soviets side but the skew was nowhere near as heavy as this video implies.
@andresdominguez4914
@andresdominguez4914 Ай бұрын
What if the United Arab Republic was a success? (Egypt/Cold War mod)
@pjmetzen3483
@pjmetzen3483 Ай бұрын
The issue with numbers is that while the Soviets had more divisions, after the grind of pushing to Berlin, the Soviet army division strength were about half strength. In addition, the Soviets were in a similar situation to the Germans supply wise and were in hostile territory compared to the Allies, especially in Poland.
@simonnachreiner8380
@simonnachreiner8380 Ай бұрын
Exactly! If the people of the occupied states of Poland, Germany, the Baltics, a good portion of the former Balkan axis, and the defeated but unbroken Ukrainians learned that the allies were pushing to actually liberate them (Not the phony totally not imperialistic "under new management" that the commies brought) they would've lit the logistics of their homelands on fire if not partaken in outright revolution. The Soviets took to a policy of loot, grape, and plunder whenever they exhausted their supply lines and the occupied territories _hated_ them for it they just couldn't do anything about it. There's a propaganda story from the winter war about an old lady living in a cabin in Rural Finland who was notified by some soldiers that the Reds were coming and they needed to destroy her Cabin to deny the enemy shelter. She took a broom, swept the floors and sat in her chair one last time before going to the hearth and started the blaze herself. Imagine that, but over the entire former eastern front. Hell considering that the Muslim majority Turkic regions also had their religion suppressed by the soviets they might also rise up in a holy war at the same time too.
@D_clocktale
@D_clocktale Ай бұрын
Well, it wouldn't have changed the result shown in the video much.
@DavidNaval
@DavidNaval Ай бұрын
@@D_clocktalei mean maybe initially, but as the war drags on the soviets simply can’t match american industry, they would run out of supplies, especially considering the allies would likely bomb the supply lines into dust
@williamethandedios7151
@williamethandedios7151 Ай бұрын
What if Operation Valkyrie went successful in killing Hitler?
@rextroop1941
@rextroop1941 Ай бұрын
I feel like that would've caused the western Allies to attack the Soviets who would've kept on pushing.
@gergelygrosz3181
@gergelygrosz3181 Ай бұрын
Nothing basically. The war was already started with all four Allies. Maybe negotiations for peace coming from both sides.
@adamelghalmi9771
@adamelghalmi9771 Ай бұрын
@@rextroop1941 why? millions more dead for nothing.
@rextroop1941
@rextroop1941 Ай бұрын
@@adamelghalmi9771 Because after WW2 the communists murdered 110 million people during the Cold War. And we had a chance to stop those evil monsters, I believe we should have.
@SwedieYT
@SwedieYT Ай бұрын
What if Sweden joined The Central Powers in WW1?
@KellAnderson
@KellAnderson Ай бұрын
Best way to have that happen would be if Admiral Essen wasn't recalled in time.
@Mr_Godmode
@Mr_Godmode Ай бұрын
What if the Ottomans survived after WW1 (they still lost it but weren't beaten afterwards) (10)
@BlackBanditXX
@BlackBanditXX Ай бұрын
1:45 An important point of reference, Western divisions were (and still are) larger than Russian Divisions. US Divisions for example had ~14,000 men, where as their Russian counterparts had 10,000. Meaning if you look at actual fielded manpower, the difference isn't that large.
@simonnachreiner8380
@simonnachreiner8380 Ай бұрын
The west also has studied logistics for decades and has refined the transport of Men, Material, and Munitions down to a science. If the Invasion of Ukraine is anything to go by logistics is still not and will never be a strong point for the Russian Military.
@jpc347
@jpc347 Ай бұрын
Also don't forget that this is nominal strength, not actual. The Soviets had been fighting heavily on the Eastern Front for four years by this point and few divisions were actually at their nominal strength. That and the Soviets heavily relied on the US for logistical equipment.
@Dont14-r4k
@Dont14-r4k Ай бұрын
Yeah the if the Germans taught anything, you could be heavily outnumbered and still make the Soviet's lives absolute hell on earth.
@D_clocktale
@D_clocktale Ай бұрын
​@@Dont14-r4k excluding the fact that at the beginning of the operation the Germans outnumbered the soviet army, and when the Soviets transferred divisions from the border with Japan, it became hell for the german troops.
@Dont14-r4k
@Dont14-r4k Ай бұрын
@@D_clocktale at the very beginning in Barbarossa, so from 1942-1945 the Germans, despite being in a hellhole themselves, made the Soviets cry and crack. I mean you can still see the effects of the German Invasion on the Population to this day.
@IAMTHEMACHINE106
@IAMTHEMACHINE106 Ай бұрын
What if Operation Weserübung failed. Aka, what if Norway and Denmark had resisted German occupation.
@adiuntesserande6893
@adiuntesserande6893 Ай бұрын
What if the Anglo-French Union idea was adopted? (This is a Road to '56 thought.)
@Chance-tv2jn
@Chance-tv2jn Ай бұрын
What if the United States never went to war with Germany? (Japan is still attacked, but Germany does not declare war on the U.S and vice versa.)
@JoeDueterte
@JoeDueterte Ай бұрын
Easy clap for the Germans. We’d be living in a literal paradise
@misterchildyeeter
@misterchildyeeter Ай бұрын
@@JoeDueterte elaborate a little on what you consider a paradise, i don't think germany was coming out of that regardless even if they didn't go to war with the US
@wilbysot343
@wilbysot343 Ай бұрын
the US would've inevitably still declared war on germany, however maybe without operation torch, husky, or the large strategic bombing effort, germany wouldnt have been as destroyed as it was in our timeline.
@DDniceNeasy
@DDniceNeasy Ай бұрын
He answered that in a video 😂
@lazy747unitedairlines
@lazy747unitedairlines Ай бұрын
@@JoeDuetertehow would it be a paradise. I guess you could argue the Soviets could have still won, but it would have been far deadlier if they had won. And that’s if they won, which could be argued against because the Soviets could have not received lend lease aid. This could have theoretically led to defeat of the Soviets, but if so, Germanys total plans for the east would have gone through. so yeaaaaaaaaaa, not the greatest bud. but than theirs the scenario where the Soviets when, which could be argued to actually be an alright thing, especially if the Soviets modernize their form of communism and give their people rights giving them the best aspects of communism. But than again most likely millions of more Soviets would have died. So yeah your just wrong tbh
@theweirdcore
@theweirdcore Ай бұрын
What if Spain was more stable before WW1 and decided to choose a side during the war?
@MrKangaroo123
@MrKangaroo123 Ай бұрын
another really interesting scenario!
@n00b5lay3r
@n00b5lay3r Ай бұрын
Alternatively we can make a what if Spain won the Spanish-American War (or lost less hard)
@nonverbalpie8151
@nonverbalpie8151 Ай бұрын
Things are about to get real... Also since my previous suggestion was selected and even in 3 polls I decided to not suggest another scenario for 3 what if videos. So here's my new one... What if the United States joined the Central Powers?
@andrzejczyzykowski3397
@andrzejczyzykowski3397 Ай бұрын
What if Poland won Poland-Bolshevik war "more"
@andysierra1618
@andysierra1618 Ай бұрын
They did won and took everything they could have possibly wanted
@elseggs6504
@elseggs6504 Ай бұрын
​@@andysierra1618the only way they couldve went further was to annex Ukraine and theres no way that wouldve lasted
@krasnamerah1926
@krasnamerah1926 Ай бұрын
Would be untenable with minorities uprisings in the Polish-occupied territories soon.
@andysierra1618
@andysierra1618 Ай бұрын
@@elseggs6504 Yeah and that wasn't their objective neither
@andrzejczyzykowski3397
@andrzejczyzykowski3397 Ай бұрын
@@andysierra1618 Well, that's my country. I was wandering about Miedzymorze idea. In our timeline it wasn't possible. But maybe Stakuyi could make it :D
@Cat_DeGaulle
@Cat_DeGaulle Ай бұрын
I have seen so many videos about operation unthinkable recently get uploaded its crazy
@tylermorrison420
@tylermorrison420 Ай бұрын
What if UK agreed to peace terms with germany after the fall of France? (The soviets have to defend against germany without lend lease or the possibility of the allies opening up a second front)
@thequinnimator
@thequinnimator Ай бұрын
So TWR?
@DaBigWilliG1995
@DaBigWilliG1995 Ай бұрын
I think what you’re not taking into account is just how much the soviets where propped up by the western resources the Soviets would have lost to Germany without the copious amount of materials they got from America and so when this tap was turned off and the war continued but now on two fronts for them would have bled them dry much faster especially if they then had their main production centres nuked, the other thing we have never seen is nukes being used against military targets rather than as terror weapons although I myself am not sure how effective they would have been or if the allies would have been able to take advantage of that even if they were effective.
@TopatTom
@TopatTom Ай бұрын
Stak your videos are way too good. I cant imagine the research and *pain* you had to do these stuff for our entertainment and learning. Your seriously awesome
@terhop3780
@terhop3780 Ай бұрын
I still love that in every allied what if run Poland gets shafted at best and wiped out at worst. And then in the Russian monarchy run they were liberated with the most land.
@firesturmgaming
@firesturmgaming Ай бұрын
What if Operation Downfall had to take place because Japan refused to surrender after being nuked twice? (Ironman mode edition.) Also, key thing to note for the Soviets is that by the time they reached Berlin, the Soviets had only about 6% of their pre-war recruitable male population left.
@chrisreed4065
@chrisreed4065 Ай бұрын
One thing to consider is that soviet divisions were smaller than their western counterparts. A late war soviet rifle division had an "on paper" strength of about 9500 men whereas a 1945 U.S. infantry Division had an "on paper" strength of 15,000 men. This translate all down the line in terms of unit size. The manpower disparity would not be as great as depicted. Soviet fighter aircraft would struggle against their western counterparts at high altitude as they weren't designed for it, most fighting in the air occured at medium to low altitude on the eastern front. This means that a high altitude bombing campaign would be very effective. Western pilot and plane quality was also much higher, you only have to look at the battle of the phillipine sea to see what happens in such circumstances. My guess would be an initial Western surge that would be stopped then reversed but the Soviets would not be able to exploit the reversal because every rail hub and logistic station between Moscow and wherever the front is would be completely obliterated. The result, a stalemate that would either result in the use of the bomb or an armistice.
@Idealdeath8304
@Idealdeath8304 Ай бұрын
Idea: what if Britain and Germany had made peace and went to war on the Soviet’s like hitler wished?
@Ladiesman-iw9gc
@Ladiesman-iw9gc Ай бұрын
LGM
@Idealdeath8304
@Idealdeath8304 Ай бұрын
@@Ladiesman-iw9gc lgm brother
@lazy747unitedairlines
@lazy747unitedairlines Ай бұрын
pretty unrealistic, but cool scenario
@zacharymorehouse8501
@zacharymorehouse8501 Ай бұрын
Idea: What if America aligned with the Central Powers in WW1. (Personally, I think this is an arguably more historically plausible scenario if some elements were shifted around).
@wariorwolf
@wariorwolf Ай бұрын
What if chemical warfare happened in europe during WW2? Germany had huge stockpiles of Sarin and the UK stockpiled Anthrax, so in my eyes it's more surprising it didn't happen.
@kurtschaefer6845
@kurtschaefer6845 Ай бұрын
Hmm never thought of that before. Morbidly interesting
@noneed4sleep64
@noneed4sleep64 Ай бұрын
In our own timeline, the Soviets had more divisions, tanks and planes, but their divisions were beaten and bruised, and the reinforcements they were receiving were freshly conscripted kids. Their tanks were of shockingly poor quality (those that they didn’t receive from the Allies, anyway) and their planes simply couldn’t compete with the planes of the RAF and USAAF. The Soviets may have had the numbers advantage, but the allies had the equipment and industrial advantage, and those matter more than raw manpower.
@thatzombiplayer7993
@thatzombiplayer7993 Ай бұрын
Here's one what if Finnland continued to push out after Russia went in (partially so History-Boi has to talk about Simo Häyä)
@Userbie78
@Userbie78 Ай бұрын
What if Poland was better prepared for the the german invasion in 1939
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen Ай бұрын
IIRC part of the plan to liberate Eastern Europe involved conscripting German POWs to increase the Allied numbers.
@t26e3pershingtank
@t26e3pershingtank Ай бұрын
"no major offensives would be going on at this time" Plan R4 and Operation Weserübung: Allow us to introduce ourselves
@GamingTillLate
@GamingTillLate Ай бұрын
If Lend lease from the US was at a reduced level then Russian attrition would be increased as their resources dwindled. The US could have decided how weak to leave the USSR, just as their help at a price cost the British Empire
@mortyjhones4068
@mortyjhones4068 Ай бұрын
I think one of the BIG diferances that would have to change is the american atituid towards Lend Leace. Britan would not have continued the artic convoys after the revolution, and it would have tryed to force the same conditions for lend lease onto the sovet's. Blocking the americans from full aide towards the sovet union most probly by demanding the same conditions. With Far less Chemiocals for HE rounds and worse logistics the soviets would be hard pressed to keep there heavy armour equiped and the infantey suplyed.
@lucabuchwald9744
@lucabuchwald9744 Ай бұрын
I need a "What if Finland went in help of the Bolsheviks during the Russian Revolution" or a "What if the Bolshevik coup was in Germany AND Russia". Crazy, I know.
@dioniscaraus6124
@dioniscaraus6124 Ай бұрын
"Famine would spread across Europe" Made me laugh, that's just business as usual in Eastern Europe
@vampd2660
@vampd2660 Ай бұрын
Stakuyi! Are you excited for the new DLC coming? Germany is getting some fun stuff and i feel like you will love it!
@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 Ай бұрын
Attempt 13: (Using the Great War Redux again) What if Italy honored the Triple Alliance and eventually joined the Central Powers when WWI comes around?
@d0ntfeedphil447
@d0ntfeedphil447 Ай бұрын
Idea: what if Operation Downfall actually happened?
@MrKangaroo123
@MrKangaroo123 Ай бұрын
What if British fears came true and the Germans entered the second Boer War on the side of the Dutch boers. (May need to play vic 2 or 3 for this scenario)
@tanksoldier
@tanksoldier Ай бұрын
One thing to consider, if the western allies fought Russia offensively or defensively Russian logistic support from the west would be cut off, and the US likely WOULD have used nukes prolifically.
@ocean26457
@ocean26457 Ай бұрын
what if Ireland got real support from Germany during the 1916 rising which lead to a version of operation emerald?
@Lopez0451
@Lopez0451 Ай бұрын
1:52 I loved how the camera glitched his face LOL
@NullScorpion
@NullScorpion Ай бұрын
The fact that Norway didn’t fall was actually possible in this timeline! As in our timeline the British sent an expeditionary force of lightly armed recruits who immediately suffered massive casualties and losses and pulled out
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen Ай бұрын
What if the West came to Hungary's aid during the Hungarian Revolution in the 1950s?
@tomikasza5198
@tomikasza5198 Ай бұрын
Please, keep asking for this one
@PeterMuskrat6968
@PeterMuskrat6968 23 күн бұрын
I think a hot war between the East and West in late ‘45/early ‘46 would drop into a stalemate until Soviet cities start turning into instant fireballs. The Red Air Force would not access to a lot of the high octane aviation fuel that it got from the other allied nations, thus dooming them from being able to fly high altitude missions. No high altitude missions (or severely reduced) would give US Superfortresses free rein to bombard anything and everything that could ever be useful to the Soviets. The B-29 regularly flew extreme range missions against Japan and could easily hit targets in Belorussia and Ukraine and if using airfields in the Middle East, could even hit the oil fields in Baku. The only other area of concern would be the Middle East itself, where not a lot of forces were stationed and Iran being on the border with the USSR. Soviet logistics would be at the end of their rope already as everything would need to be transported by Train and then truck, which means that supplies can be interdicted by bombing raids and then fighter-bombers after the Red Air Force is diminished by a little bit. Once nukes enter the field, it’s all jover for the Soviets. Also, British Jet engines would not end up in the hands of the Soviets and the Jumo engines of the 262 can only get you so far, so jets are off the table to the Soviets in the immediate term while the Meteor and P-80 would be deployed. On the frontline, it would be hell for the first month, but American reinforcements would come pouring back in. The conflict would not have any side making major breakthroughs but will se Soviet territory itself start to fall as Marines hit the shores in Vladivostok. Everyone likes to say “The Soviets beat 70% of the German army on the eastern front!” I would like to make it clear that we are not the German army, we have things that the Germans could only dream of and we have radios in every infantry unit, so good luck with the constant artillery fire against anything that moves in the open.
@Xenuos
@Xenuos Ай бұрын
What if Churchill was PM in 1937?
@SD-mw7sc
@SD-mw7sc Ай бұрын
The Divisions of the Soviets was a half of the Divisions from US and English...
@Nostr00
@Nostr00 Ай бұрын
2:00 This projected balance doesn't take into consideration: - that soviet divisions were understrength (they rarely wanted to dissolve divisionas as it allowed them to use more artillery) - soviet manpower issues (during Berlin Strategic Offensive they already had 16 and 17yo conscripted) - the influance of LL (despite making 1/3 of soviet car park, Studebackers were responsible for 50% of soviet car logistics) - allies industrial and technological advantage (both USArmy and British Army were fully mechanized/motorized (for standards of 1945)) - polish partisants that would disturb soviet logistics - that soviets didn't have any real countr to american strategic bombers and allies would have free reign in sky - that soviet cities were already destroyed despite some industry being rebuild in them.
@AlexMitchell-ct8tt
@AlexMitchell-ct8tt Ай бұрын
What if the UK declared war on the USSR when they invaded Finland so when Germany invaded the USSR ww2 became a three way war
@InspiredJJ
@InspiredJJ Ай бұрын
Question for anyone: i’m playing as Norway and I lost the country. All I have left is my fleet of five ships and 18 aircraft. Is there anyway to getting an army back? Do I have to take back Norway?
@simondesmond3574
@simondesmond3574 Ай бұрын
Operation Unthinkable: Churchill's last attempt from getting his cheeks clapped by Attlee in the election
@alexkudzin4980
@alexkudzin4980 Ай бұрын
What if at the start of the Siberian intervention, one of the Romanov sisters survives the assassination and is found by the Japanese who then proceed to marry them into the Royal family to give Japan a claim over all of Russia? Yes the Romanov sisters are assassinated in July and the intervention starts in August, so either move the intervention forward a couple of months or have the Czechoslovak Legion rescue one of the sisters and bring her to the Japanese. Either way, Japan should remain in Siberia after October 1922, with enough legitimacy so that America doesn't embargo Japan or force Japan's withdrawal Finally, Japan should be able to pay for the “reclamation” of its territory from the Reds with Siberian gold/iron/gems/fur. Alternatively, Alexieve survives and is made a puppet ruler to justify Japan's ongoing presence after the withdrawal of the other intervention forces.
@kylerkregel558
@kylerkregel558 Ай бұрын
What if bad mustache man invaded the other bad mustache man first, instead of France.
@typicalfurry2747
@typicalfurry2747 Ай бұрын
23:23 "the war would turn into a stalemate" the unactive battleplane:
@harmonicadude4732
@harmonicadude4732 Ай бұрын
What happens if the Spanish civil war happened earlier and ended sooner. Then Spain joins the axis and goes in on France from the south.
@LtDannnn1776
@LtDannnn1776 Ай бұрын
What if mustache man died in ww1 from the gas attack
@22Boogles
@22Boogles Ай бұрын
What if Finland captured St Petersburg?
@bascianowatches9531
@bascianowatches9531 Ай бұрын
I wNt Stakuyi to choose the next one ❤
@kristinasimmons3303
@kristinasimmons3303 Ай бұрын
What if France (somehow) pulls itself together enough to hold the front and not collapse to the german blitzkrieg
@semajniomet981
@semajniomet981 Ай бұрын
`24:30 You mean... Mutually Assured Destruction?
@tharikaadhil5233
@tharikaadhil5233 Ай бұрын
What if great revolt of 1857 succeeded and British abandon india
@lancewalker6318
@lancewalker6318 Ай бұрын
Idea: What if Germany focused on Russia after invasion of Poland?
@dandomine
@dandomine Ай бұрын
Thanks for these awesome videos? I'll post this again: What if Japan invaded Hawaii on December 7th 1941?
@LoCLOfficial
@LoCLOfficial Ай бұрын
Couldnt happen as most of the US navy was there. Thats why Japan attacked pearl harbor in the first place
@dandomine
@dandomine Ай бұрын
@@LoCLOfficial the navy was at pearl harbour, but the landings could have happened at other locations making it a bit difficult even with the thousand of sailors there. I think it's worth exploring. Also, I've seen less likely options covered on this channel, so... ;)
@BillikinWhisker-w9s
@BillikinWhisker-w9s Ай бұрын
I like the idea - Hawaii had a history with japan. The Japanese could have taken away the pacific US fob, while justifying as 'liberating' the 150,000 Japanese Americans (1/3 of the pop of Hawaii). This might have had the same effect as taking the Philippines as a US fob, but would have needed to withdraw frim somewhere else to create the expedition force? Maybe the new Guinea forces (which they ended up abandoning) - then kakoda may not have happened and Curtain not insisted on the Australians withdrawing from Africa?
@jessehall9816
@jessehall9816 Ай бұрын
Alt History: as Britain what if Pearl Harbor never happened, could they have actually survived and would the Russians still be able to turn the tide
@ziga4870
@ziga4870 Ай бұрын
What if the Soviets joined the Axis (Berlin-Moscow Axis)? Play as the US and liberate Europe from tyranny.
@panzershepsspehsreznap4448
@panzershepsspehsreznap4448 Ай бұрын
Your face waves like a flag with every move
@clonetrooperwheeler
@clonetrooperwheeler Ай бұрын
What if the Germans focused on uboat production from the beginning
@SwedishBread
@SwedishBread Ай бұрын
What if Sweden wasn’t neutral in ww2?
@ironicallylivinginamerica3711
@ironicallylivinginamerica3711 Ай бұрын
What if Belguim ascended the position of Holy Roman Emperor and recreated the HRE under their reign?
@thequinnimator
@thequinnimator Ай бұрын
8:08 Global Defense is the historical path i believe (or at least, the AI always goes down Global Defense but it just waits before doing motion of no confidence)
@Another40kFan
@Another40kFan Ай бұрын
What if Stalin’s paranoia was more extreme and never ended? No generals or advisors are allowed as the Soviet Union. Stalin is the ONLY person in charge.
@mateuszkuzma8029
@mateuszkuzma8029 Ай бұрын
What of west opened second front on Balkans, just like Churchill suggested
@bluebeastgamer7494
@bluebeastgamer7494 Ай бұрын
After hearing the way he described the consequences of operation unthinkable in the last minutes, I am glad it didn't happen.
@thenamesianna
@thenamesianna Ай бұрын
I love the subtitles for this video "Winston Church Hill" "Melini"
@davidreynolds9189
@davidreynolds9189 Ай бұрын
No matter how much Churchill wanted it, there is no conceivable way they’d get the allied armies to fight after they’d been promised peace
@Thekisersake1914
@Thekisersake1914 Ай бұрын
What if in world war 1 the German spring offensive succeeded
@gamingnerd651
@gamingnerd651 Ай бұрын
Cool video! An idea: What if America fell to CPUSA or the Silver Shirts?
@month32
@month32 Ай бұрын
One of two. What would have happened if Operation Mercury had failed completely, or what would have happened if Operation Mercury was a resounding success.
@HeidiBoe-h2n
@HeidiBoe-h2n Ай бұрын
idea: what if Scandinavian countries join ww1 ( either side )
@allinaxford
@allinaxford Ай бұрын
The Soviets also at that time had shortages oil, or fuel since a large percentage was imported from the USA.
@Aronk112
@Aronk112 Ай бұрын
What if mussolini never came to power
@Deamon93IT
@Deamon93IT Ай бұрын
Glad this, and Op Downfall, remained as hypotheticals
@ABunchOfHobos
@ABunchOfHobos Ай бұрын
What is the Anglo-Egyptian Treaty of 1936 angered the Egyptians so much they joined the Axis and took (and possibly blew) the Suez canal.
@101-n9g
@101-n9g Ай бұрын
What if Italy, Spain and Japan turned on Germany during Operation Barbarossa
@don1angel
@don1angel Ай бұрын
Spain Joins the Axis!!!
@Tokugawa__
@Tokugawa__ Ай бұрын
What if Mengkukuo joined the allies?
@erdood3235
@erdood3235 Ай бұрын
Why would it?
@Jeffrey.3125
@Jeffrey.3125 Ай бұрын
What if Qing was divided after the eight nation alliance in 1900 and was left with only a small piece of land.
@lucaswallace7476
@lucaswallace7476 Ай бұрын
"[..] Airpower greater than anything that Japan would be able to do." *Ace pilot promoted* *Ace pilot promoted* *Ace pilot promoted* *Ace pilot promoted*
@delphy2478
@delphy2478 Ай бұрын
i enjoyed this. i would like to see unthinkable from the defensive idea
@SquooshyCatboy
@SquooshyCatboy Ай бұрын
What if the British were more loose on their colonial policy, and maybe things like the Quit India movement and the decolonization of Africa happened much much earlier, possibly before WW2?
@Finlandball39
@Finlandball39 Ай бұрын
What if Russia invaded Germany instead of vice-versa?
@GrantBeyer-cu7ty
@GrantBeyer-cu7ty Ай бұрын
What if Japan joined the central powers
@spartanhawk7637
@spartanhawk7637 Ай бұрын
Yep, gonna need Metal Gear Rising music for this amount of carnage.
@VaronTheUnbelievable
@VaronTheUnbelievable Ай бұрын
What if Japan joined the allies in WW2?
@hollowedshadow2822
@hollowedshadow2822 Ай бұрын
What if, during ww1, the polish Lithuania commonwealth rose again?
@Joseplh
@Joseplh Ай бұрын
Before watching. My thoughts are that should the UK under Churchill actually did this, there would have been a massive schism between the US and the UK. Some US generals such as Patton advocated for going to war against the USSR, however the public and President Truman wanted the war to end. It may very well be the case that it highly depends on how the US responds as to the outcome of the new war. If the US were to join, it would be ugly, but I firmly believe the USSR would collapse quickly and not in a way they could recover. By this time supply lines for the Russians are already stretched thin as they raced to be the first to Berlin, also the Russian economy was running bare. Nearly half of all men had been mobilized and there was precious few to tend the field to feed the troops. Even in our own timeline, nearly a million Russians died in the 1946-47 famine caused in large part to the destroyed infrastructure and agricultural capacity. The US at this time had the A-bomb and we don't have the fear of M.A.D. yet. It was also too early for the full ramifications of dropping the bomb on the Japanese to hit the US public. That would not truly hit until Russia came out with their own bomb nearly a decade later. I would predict a collapse and possible revolution within Russia within a year. If the US were split or did not join fully at the very least, the push by the UK would easily stall and without pressure from the Americans on the Russians, they could turn this into a death march for the UK and Russia as both were in poor shape after WW2. Russia could hold off long enough and cause enough damage to the British forces that the UK would have to retreat or come to a negotiated settlement.
@thenaynay5057
@thenaynay5057 Ай бұрын
What if the soviets invaded first? Like what if the Germans had chosen to wait to prepare for longer or something or how could the soviets have been more prepared
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