What if the Philippines became a US State? | Alternate History

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

I feel the Philippines would be a bit awkward as a singular state and would need to be broken up into at least 2 or 3 states.

[@DeanMonsieur]

This is mentioned at 7:28

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

@@DeanMonsieur Somehow I missed this, but even generally outside of this video my words stand but sorry for missing that XD (ironically not the first time ive seen 'what if the Philippines was a state' discussed)

[@lloydgush]

@@seamusfinnegan1164 nah, single state is funnier. Two states would also be fun. What's democracy without drama?

[@merijevons]

Sulu would certainly seek incorporation as a separate state, or even a territory. In fact, I think that only Luzon had the level of development necessary to be incorporated a Filipino state. The rest was... jungle, Moros and Pagans. Probably open to white settlement, too.

[@Masteroflore300]

Yes, we rule 3 rulers

[@hallikwin3373]

If the Philippines was a state before WW2, we wouldn't have an event like "Pearl Harbor", we'd more likely have a "Manila Harbor"

[@jonlaurenzreyes1902]

Well if the largest pacific fleet of US is in Manila then that would happen, if not then pearl harbor would still be the priority of Imperial Japan to attack first because that's where the fleet are stationed. Japan is just unlucky that the aircraft carrier wasn't harbored so they missed their main target

[@eelchiong6709]

North Harbor. Maybe South Harbor, though the North is where big ships (international) dock.

[@realemperorkuzco]

Well the Philippines and Guam were both bombed at the same time as Pearl Harbor in OTL

[@gooddogbern573]

Or Japan could have considered it too much of a risk and instead attacked the Soviet Union for resources.

[@MG77740]

@@hallikwin3373 Actually, there was a Manila harbor anyway. The defenses amazingly held up for 5 months of bombing but the fall led to the Bataan death march.

[@joshuawells835]

If the Philippines were a US state, it would be the kingmaker in presidential elections, as over a third of the House of Representatives would just be the Philippines. Could Filipino Statehood speed up Puerto Rican Statehood, Guam Statehood, Samoan Statehood, etc...?

[@toledochristianmatthew9919]

Is also because the country has a population of 100 million?

[@playingsometimes7290]

God I forgot how many Filipinos there were

[@ginesjoshdave4406]

@@joshuawells835 depends if the Philippines can retain its population. The Americans will wad condoms on the way of Filipinos and bypass the archbishop

[@whitehawk4099]

Lol, this would never be allowed.

[@CoiboiXD]

The population boom happened due to the rapid implosion of theirs economy in the 80s - 90s, if that didnt happen under US rule, the pop would be atleast 60 or 70 million, less than what we have now (if you wanna calculate this, just take population growth data and population growth from 1940 - Present and lessen the numbers from 1970 - 1990

[@MonsieurDean]

Wait, it's all the United States?

[@AshleyNyah]

Always has been.

[@kosmicking5166]

Always will be

[@That-One-Georgia-Bear]

@@MonsieurDean always should be

[@TopatTom]

United states of Terra.

[@nunyabiznes33]

Why the heck do youboob keep deleting my "Always has been" comment?! Is it coz of the gυn emoji with the eagle and US flag emojis?

[@Nope_handlesaretrash]

The Philippines couldn't possibly be any more expensive natural disaster wise than Florida. Access to the Filipino economy and agricultural sectors also means a greater emphasis on developing the Philippines for export crops that otherwise are coming from other countries

[@DeanMonsieur]

Oh you underestimate the Pacific ocean my friend. The Filipino government effectively has to rebuild their entire country’s infrastructure every year because of typhoons, tsunamis, earthquakes, flooding, and volcanic activity

[@playingsometimes7290]

​@@DeanMonsieurahahahhahaha As Filipino I sometimes wonder what if as it seems more plausible than being further under Spanish rule, and while through that exact same nation practically did more than Centuries of Spanish rule.

[@benginaldclocker2891]

​@@Nope_handlesaretrash You do know that The Philippines experience more typhoons than Florida right? The Philippines is known as the typhoon shield of Asia simply because it acts as a natural barrier for typhoons that would pass Asia (it's literally next to the Pacific Ocean). There are 20 typhoons in the Philippine Area of Responsibility every year, with only 8 of them ever reaching the Philippines and making landfall. I'm sure the Philippines would be more expensive to maintain than Florida after all that.

[@CeriTsujimura]

@@DeanMonsieur Mostly an issue with the eastern part of the country when it comes to typhoons The western part is relatively tame (for the most part) except for when super typhoons say hello, maybe occasional flooding but nothing on the levels of city go bye bye Not to mention we mostly make buildings in current day out of relatively thick concrete so majority of damages are done to non-concrete buildings unless they're really poorly made Means most damages you see from typhoons are either from extremely severe flooding, poorly made stuff, or just stuff that generally aren't protected like farms or anything loose outside.

[@jmneo4635]

On average 20-25 Typhoons are hitting the Philippines and as one living here it feels like there is a reported Typhoon every two or three weeks every year.

[@nunyabiznes33]

Now that I've thought about it, the Philippines having significant Muslim areas would have made America hesitant about getting involved in the Middle East. For example invading Afghanistan and Iraq would have resulted in secession movements.

[@boom350ph]

Yes but it's basically 1/3 of the Philippines in terms of land

[@RUHappyATM]

@@boom350ph Easy, just excise the problematic bits.

[@CoiboiXD]

The US had a method for pacifying the South, that interaction would define US policy on the middle east, would make the US footprint there more efficient and less as the US wouldnt be long therem

[@shinsenshogun900]

@@boom350ph It's more 1/6 when a third of Mindanao is dominantly Muslim thanks to internal migration policies starting in the 1930s

[@antoniosingson1791]

Then start forced labor again in the American S-East, just like in the early 19th century, specifically in the cotton farms, this time send the belligerent Filipinos, including the muslims. That would tame them, greatly..

[@sausage3782]

Imagine if Ferdinand Marcos was elected us president in the 1960s in this senerio.

[@DeanMonsieur]

Kennedy vs Marcos 1960?

[@NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov]

​@@DeanMonsieurEvangelicals nightmare and a Catholics Dream

[@kevin8712]

I can only tremble at what Marcos would do. If the US comes under martial law, the Third Red Scare would begin. His ideology would be McCarthyism on steroids- and unlike McCarthy, thousands of people actually died as a consequence.

[@kingmasterfilip2965]

@@sausage3782 billions would be stolen

[@officialzji1828]

I wouldn't see Marcos in this alternative timeline to win the 1960s Election, but if he somehow wins, I would imagine a bigger corruption within the White House than what he did in the Philippines. Or maybe Congress will immediately see his corruption and impeach him. Who knows.

[@boneman9751]

The US attempting to integrate its “colonial” possessions or release them immediately makes more sense than just kinda staring at them. This alternate “manifest destiny” of everywhere the star spangled banner touches must be brought liberty seems more in line with our idealism instead of just “world police.” If American started integration campaigns as soon as we got the Philippines, you’re looking at 50 years of relation building ended by a world war proving we’d fight for them just the same as any mainlander. The long term benefits I think would deeply outweigh the costs and profit both of our peoples immensely.

[@Shroob12-ii8il]

@@boneman9751 The Philippines and Hawaii would both fight for independence against the Americans in this timeline.

[@boneman9751]

@@Shroob12-ii8il if you think so ok

[@IkeaOrca569]

As a filipino i would love this to happen we are both unanimously similar to the US. - A melting pot built by immigrants - Butchered the spanish language - speaks simplified english - die hard patrotic - eats a large portions of food - expensive healthcare - has an annoying syrup/monarchy loving neighbor - declares war on anything without thinking - seperatists from the south also the mass amount of natural gas in the west coast of the ph is irresistable . its basically a win - win for both sides ,ph gets significantly developed while the US gets mass labor pool & resources

[@boneman9751]

@@IkeaOrca569 this is exactly what I was thinking. Currently the US has a massive labor shortage and the key regions are manufacturing and agriculture, both things that you all seem to excel at from what I’ve researched. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe PH has 3.5 million some manufacturing employees, in the US, the largest amount is in California at 1.2 million. You all would have almost 3x as many workers and if you were given our efficiency practices, I have no doubt you’d be our manufacturing heart land. It would be foolish not to take the massive profits you’d provide us and invest them back into you. Not as a means to exploit you for cheap labor, but simply because you don’t seem to share the same allergy Americans have to hard labor. One thing I wouldn’t like to see is you all get the Puerto Rico treatment (massive population not properly resented) or worse, the immigrant treatment. As you said, you’re a patriotic and proud people, you shouldn’t have to give that up to join us. You deserve to be property represented in congress and keep your autonomy the same if not more so than actual US states. I don’t know if you’d enter as 1 state or multiple (you’d know more about dividing regional lines), but as far as an American from the southern region, I’d love to have you all. You’d be invaluable to us and losing you was a mistake. If you did join us, I can only hope we could provide for you all as much as you’d provide for us. I hope you’d enjoy our massive military and political power😭 Sorry for typing a book, but this is something I genuinely support, and hearing it come from a native makes me so happy and excited.

[@antoniosingson1791]

​@@IkeaOrca569AND A JACKPOT FOR THE PINOY PSYCHÈ(or mental wellbeing) OF GETTING MORE AND MORE FAIR COMPLEXION as the generations transition to another, and another, so on and so forth. Too bad for the skin-whittening companies..😢

[@JTL1776]

Video suggestions. What if America purchased European Colonies post world wars For Cheap. French Madagascar after WW1. English speaking British Carribean after ww1. British Belize and Guyana. French Guyana. Danish Greenland post WW2.

[@NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov]

Now that is interesting

[@JTL1776]

Madagascar for Naval and Trade SUPREMACY in the waters around Africa, Arabia, and India. British Carribean for Easily Americanized Colonies near to the mainland that would provide great wealth in tourism and cash crops. Greenland Belize and the Guyana's for POST WW2 ANTI Marxism Communism operations.

[@JTL1776]

​@@NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov thought the same thing.

[@depeeper218]

@@JTL1776 The US in such a timeline would have access to far more oil in Guyana.

[@JTL1776]

​@@depeeper218 Ah I forgot the most important factor for us involvement OIL OIL OIL.

[@zuccitosh1505]

This is an excellent video! The research is thorough, and as a Filipino, I really appreciate how accurate the pronunciations were. Great job, and I look forward to seeing more of your content!

[@DeanMonsieur]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov]

What if Spanish Monarchists managed to survive in Peru( not the entire Spanish Empire) and had a Dominion type government and kept the monarchy even after Spain became a Republic

[@joshuawells835]

So Peru being to Spain what Brazil was for the Portuguese?

[@nunyabiznes33]

So, Peru becomes Taiwan, claiming to be the real Spain?

[@NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov]

@nunyabiznes33 That could be a possible political viewpoint

[@madmarvshighwaywarrior2870]

@@NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov You may also include the Philippines in this, and Cuba.

[@mojave3571]

San Martín offered the Vicerroy of Peru the opportunity to propose an Spanish prince as Peruvian King, yet the Vicerroy declined. So it might be a possible scenario lol

[@mr6johnclark]

If the philippines was a US state, the demographic of almost 100 milliion people would be completely different, because of property rights that would somewhat mirror US LAWS. A large amount of filipinos would be moving to the mainland and a lot of US mainlanders would come to the philippines and buy property. Hawaii has a population of 1.4 million in 2024 Puerto Rico has a population of 2.4 million in 2024 In in 1941 the philippines had a population of 17 million. people would go to places to thrive if they could go to the Mainland US for work they would. Had population dillution happened the philippines would be lucky if it had a population of 40 million in 2024. because the population only shot up in the 1950s into the 1960s and 1970s.

[@CoiboiXD]

Yeah! The population wouldn't had balooned this much, Manila would had retained its Pearl of the Orient status, on par with rival Singapore

[@mr6johnclark]

@@CoiboiXD The philippines would be more akin to New Zealand people would be moving on to the mainland and US citizens would be moving in to start businesses. The Democraphic would be completely diffeerent. It gets even more different considering the level of agricultural mechanicalization being part of the US brings as well as mining / mineral extraction.

[@mr6johnclark]

@@CoiboiXD then you add in intermarriages with the population of the US. by 2025 in that alternate future the possibily there would be very few "pure" filipinos left on the philippine islands.

[@insectslayer1374]

@@mr6johnclark most people would be like in the major cities in the philippines look like mixed east asian/austronesian/spanish/anglo at the same time

[@CoiboiXD]

@@mr6johnclark maybe, but if the US retained the Philippines and the Philippines didnt experience that much of a economic squeeze and poverty from the 70s - 90s, it would be unlikely, the Philippines post Spanish colonialism was a very conservative society, more than now, so that tight nit mentality coupled with the opening of more opportunities would make it unlikely, remember, heavy Filipino intermarriages and stigma of insuperiority towards western people came only as an act of desperation due to poverty, remove that and Filipino society changes. It would basically be a Hawai like situation but the natives have more rights and dont depopulate that easily.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

You always make My day! Suggestion: What if Franz Ferdinand lived?

[@kfiraltberger552]

Pretty sure he already made one of those about the US of Austria

[@mr.patriotjol]

What if Beetlejuice from the Howard Stern Show became president of the USA

[@JB-bb1bh]

either one would be pure popcorn comedy.

[@mr.patriotjol]

@@JB-bb1bhbeetlejuice, what can you do to stop global warming Beetlejuice- who me? I don’t know and I don’t want to know

[@SigmaN0tati0n]

As a Filipino, I really love the INSANE research lol.

[@macwarrenconnor]

As someone who was born and raised in the Philippines, I never really related closely to my more Filipino side, I spoke English growing up and I had a hard time trying to learn Tagalog. As a result, I sort of relate more now to my American heritage thanks to my grandparents having lived there than I do now. If my country ever became a state, I can imagine it would probably be such a strain on the US's finances purely because of how much infrastructure and shipments that the government would have to accomplish for the Philippines to be anywhere close to the standards of your typical American state. The islands require plenty of road networks, bridges, shipping lanes would need to be developed, that's not even covering the sheer amount of disaster relief plans that the country would need due to the constant natural disasters hammering it.

[@millennialWaffen3]

Dun ka sa US

[@Polotongquitz]

Japan will more likely to invade Siberia had the Philippines became a military fortress due to its annexation.

[@CoiboiXD]

A Filipino civil rights movement would be kewl

[@NoobHammer]

as a filipino american, this is the bad ending. good video.

[@alaskantzar9457]

I think it makes sense for the Philippino statehood movement to start in the 30s. When the anti colonial Roosevelt admin creates the new commonwealth deal they could go in the direction of integration than independence.

[@JosephSolisAlcaydeAlberici]

It would have been more interesting if the Philippines stayed under Spain for a few decades and had become one of the Spanish provinces with Filipino representation in the Spanish Cortes.

[@nunyabiznes33]

I can only see benefits for Spain retaining their Asian port. I guess the biggest issue was losing Mexico.

[@Bruhclan69]

But that would mean that the Spanish would be a minority within their own nation

[@arthurmoran4951]

@@nunyabiznes33 i don't know the spaniards never wanted to sell the philippines to the us the first said that didn' wanted negotiation if the philippines were not return back to them

[@thehwguy4293]

I'd love to see something like that, but also involving the what if that the Spaniards listened to Rizal.

[@ninjasiren]

High chance if this would have happen, Spain's monarchy would most likely decided to move their location to the Philippines. (While Fransisco is in power in European Spain, in WW2)

[@GMGE-zk2wg]

Philippines people will be holding US passport, US citizen and US territory by then like Puerto Rico

[@dominicperez3777]

I had a whiplash from the title alone and I'm Pinoy 😅 It's interesting to see what alternate history would be if the Philippines were under different colonizers. Especially the Dutch and the Germans cause both groups at one point in history attempted to take the islands themselves.

[@ryannathaniel9296]

If it's the Dutch, then probably the Philippines would be merged with the rest of the Dutch East Indies

[@madensmith7014]

​@@ryannathaniel9296Greater Indonesia would be a fun concept. This would probably be a stronger impetus for a Southeast Asian Federal Union, and Malaysia and Brunei could decide to join in as well. This would rival the likes of India in the times moving forward. Or this would become a bloody dispute during secession as Mindanao would most likely favour joining Indonesia as they have a predominant Muslim population and would most likely distance itself from Manila during the period they're joined with their Muslim kin

[@jsravilob6656]

@@dominicperez3777 you forgot the british and Português as well. How about the sri vijaya or majapahit also extend its territories to Sulu and tondo? Or Yuan dynasty or mongol invasions of tondo or ming dynasty zheng he exploration paved way to chinese colonization of southeast asia? Or even the indian chola empire or what if ottoman empire were expanisionist and enter colonization?

[@jsravilob6656]

​@@madensmith7014 I think mindanao will be divided as Zamboanga peninsula, northern mindanao, eastern Mindanao and davao region were already catholic and Spanish influence region while lumads who practiced non-abrahamic religion would also complicates the issue.

[@Boiling_Seas]

One of the reasons the Pearl Harbor attack was so effective was that the American Pacific Fleet was in one place, rather than spread out. If it was needed to guard the Philippines as well, the difficulty of attacking the fleet as a whole skyrockets. As such, I would think Japan would go a rather different plan. Either following the northern plan and forcing the Soviets into a two-front war, or attacking the colonial holdings but bypassing American territory. Without America joining the war until some other casus belli crops up, Japan would have an easier time of striking at French Indochina and British Malaya. Australia would face more of a threat, but an actual invasion would be unlikely. By the time they reached New Guinea, the Japanese forces were stretched quite thin. Still, they would secure supplies of oil and rubber from the newly conquered territory.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your content guys! Thanks For this ❤❤❤❤

[@Windmolenliefhebber]

I feel like the Life Quality of the Philippines would be like Puerto Rico if it was still a 51st State to this day

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

Considering how much influence the US still has over here, we might as well be a 51st US State

[@georgealearnedjr855]

This would have made both Korea and Vietnam very interesting situations.

[@alexboston8429]

OK, what about this. What if the insular cases were differently decided and so people born in the Philippines became US citizens starting in the 1800s when the US took over the territory? That would be an entirely different trajectory toward statehood for the Philippines.

[@cf7922]

A possible Part 2 to this video might be how much the Philippines becoming a US state would have influenced the US today. One thing I can think of is instead of 12 days of Christmas you might have 100 days like they do in the Philippines. As a result all US holidays that fall in the "Ber" months (which is the Philippine Christmas period from SeptemBER to DecemBER), might have a Christmas theme attached to it, like imagine Thanksgiving merged with Christmas, Halloween merged with Christmas etc. LOL. Oh, and Garlic Fried rice and Filipino Breakfast might be more of a thing in the US.

[@WallNutBreaker524]

If the Republican Conservatives play their cards right, they could use the Philippines as their Christian Voting Fortress and the US would be more religious today with Conservatives ruling alot more than Democrats.

[@jacobwortham8068]

​@@WallNutBreaker524what's fascinating about that is that I could see the Republican party having a weird schism between conservative Catholic Filipinos and white Protestants. Honestly, we might end up with a three party system with a Filipino interests party being dominant in the region

[@Mondy667]

The Philippines would probably be split to Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao

[@TFSIChristmas]

@@Mondy667 even with the current situation , with your insane president you had for 6 years it almost split into three.

[@JSolisHD]

Into Three additional States, rather than just a single state incorporated into the US States.

[@andrewrogers3067]

You can pretty much gurantee that the nationalists would not lose the civil war, America would never have a Chinese enemy that close. Also, I think it’d be insane for America to commit downfall before the nuke is made, the cost was too high and they’d rather wait. Also, the Soviets are discounted too much, they’d completely take over Manchuria and Korea if America waited which they would. All in all, this scenario has a lot of interesting potential but is either not explored or is a major stretch.

[@bossy1496]

on point 2, you're forgetting that the US had a Germany first plan, the Pacific theatre was secondary to the US

[@channeljan8529]

I would have totally supported this. Filipinos have been in charge of the Philippines since 1946 and look how much they squandered away their own country since then.

[@WallNutBreaker524]

Never forget the brutality of the US during the Filipino American War traitor.

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

@@WallNutBreaker524 Fairly sure much of the brutality came from the filipino side, actually.

[@100_American_Bison]

Here a video idea: Five tribes (Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek, and Seminole) in what is now Oklahoma. They came forward to the U.S government and wanted Statehood. The topic is what if the various tribal nations propose statehood and the U.S. decided to accept all of the tribes as states instead of the current timeline. What kind of economical and political effects would this timeline have now that the various tribes are US states.

[@ferdinandcarlpanal2621]

This is well researched

[@jsravilob6656]

I hope you talk about the Commonwealth of the Philippines which were preparation for the independence of the Philippines.

[@Naturenerd1000]

Hopefully the Philippines would have been multible states. But absorbing the Philippines would change the election outcome way too much.

[@exoszn6]

I absolutely love videos like this continue to make more what if scenarios I absolutely love them. I will literally like and watch everyone.

[@dak5761]

Im surprised New Mexico or California didn’t get more attention as examples of firmly majority Spanish speaking regions before the annexation and their eventual state hood.

[@crusader2112]

Another great addition to the channel. 👍 Can you do one on what if Blessed Karl waited and bought his time and returned to Austria or Hungary later?

[@joshuayang0331]

I doubt that Japan would even attack the pearl harbor in this time line though, their goal was mainly to get resources from the east indies, yet this time line the Philippines is too well defended that it could have been impossible for Japan to attack and take it, nor is it possible to ignore and by pass it, also, the Japanese strategy for war against the US was to push the Americans out of western Pacific then slowly retreat as the Americans push back and destroying American forces bit by bit on the way, yet this time line's Philippines is not able to be taken, thus probably the whole plan is scraped, it would have make it too hard for Japanese to even came up with a plan in this situation where America has a strong foot hold so near and the Japanese denied of east indies resources, it is too impossible even without hindsight, and also, the US and Japan was near a deal to recognize Manchuria in exchange for Japanese retreat from China and French Indochina, but didn't come through because of some infighting in Japanese diplomatic department and some "brilliant" guy came up with the idea to fight the US, but in this time line, I doubt it would had been as much appealing to attack pearl harbor, thus it is possible that the Japanese just excepted the agreement and the Pacific war wouldn't even happen

[@ifureadthis_urgay]

As a filipino, i honestly wouldn't mind the Philippines being annexed by the US. Would also have given them insane leverage in the pacific geopolitically and would also have massively improved our current infrastructure.

[@silentecho92able]

Not to mention access to the U.S nuclear arsenal a handful stationed on the islands would make China and North Korea be more weary and China will have no choice but to abandon any form of expansion.

[@Random_JapGuy]

​@@silentecho92ableyes, if war broke loose the Philippines is the Frontline and the mainland is safe 👍

[@One.Zero.One101]

The USA promised independence as early as 1934, and 76% of the Filipino congress was pro-independence. If the USA went back on their promise, there would have been a massive rebellion. Statehood was never a realistic possibility.

[@jameschristophercirujano6650]

Would've been real viable if the US were looking for freedom as early as the 1930's, they would've asserted the Philippine claim on Sabah for all that oil and gas, lol.

[@Knightmare919]

Hell yeah they would have definitely did that and considering after ww2 America could easily do that.

[@rnhubble]

Would US be in a better position to win Vietnam War, using a disproportionate number of troops from the Philippines in a more "regional" war? retaining more support on the mainland (of course maybe Vietnam is never split in this timeline)

[@Knightmare919]

Bro our current population is over 100 million we will have the strongest electorial vote we could easily dictate which president gets into power.😅

[@Kira-is9vu]

What if all US colonys get statehood in the US? Philipines, Alaska, Cuba, Panama, Liberia, Hawai, Midway Ilands, Marschal Ilands, Puerto Rico, Guam.) + What if the US had anexed, Mexico, British Canada, british Neufundland and all of the european colonys in the carebea and south west of argentina? + what if the USa had anex all of the central american coubtrys. With all of these new US Colonys as US states.

[@ggexgaming6020]

You forgot the Virgin islands

[@josuerosales6485]

What if Francisco Morazan's Centroamerica succeeded and managed to stay united

[@connorhilchie2779]

Love seeing these videos, keep up the great work man. This is top tier content! If my may make a recommendation/request: What If Canada become independent after winning the War of 1812?

[@eleriumgaming]

Imagine Philippines as a 51st state and Vietnam war broke out in the mid 1960s.....course of the war can be change as both Filipinos and Vietnamese are an excellent jungle fighters!

[@thehighscalls]

A part 2 and 3 may be needed that focuses during and after the events of the cold war as this part discussed the side of WW2.

[@lillyie]

SEA would be completely different. china and communism would be much more contained as US now has two places to station their military(the other one being south korea) more importantly, if the US feels like it, they can install nukes! imagine in a timelines where china has a permanent cuba missile crisis this would also mean if US ever decides to do vietnam in this timeline, they can recruit filipinos, so they can just ignore the protesting mainlanders. another thing would be completely different is the communist movement in the country. currently, there's a guerilla rebel group known as the new people's army and they are a maoist militia. with the US controlling the country, they'd have no chance of ever finding meaningful recruitment as provinces where they're active will be swarming with US troops, and given enough time, will either fizzle out until their numbers die or surrender.

[@lillyie]

but the biggest possible change for the philippines would be, THEY WOULD FULLY OWN THE SOUTH CHINA SEA! in this timeline, china can never dispute anything in the south china sea as if they tried, they're within earshot of the US navy

[@lasqueiralasco1523]

What if augustus has a better sucessor than claudius? Bonus points if the teutoburg forest event is avoided or somehow reversed and rome conquered all the territories augustus wanted(parts of arabia, germania and the nubian kingdom)

[@JHohenhauser]

Ah, the good ending!

[@DeanMonsieur]

Or is it..

[@doopboop8359]

@@DeanMonsieur As a filipino, yes.

[@JohnnyUy]

@@DeanMonsieurFr, 101%

[@arthurmoran4951]

@@doopboop8359 you really like your former colonizer

[@joeyyeet2970]

@@arthurmoran4951 nahh just less evil compared to this hell hole of a government we have.

[@officialzji1828]

As a Filipino living in California, this scenario is interesting. If my homeland really becomes a states, would be sense to split into smaller states. I don't know if in this alternative scenario, the economy and living standards in the Philippines will improve, makes little effect, or makes it worse. But I will say, this is a nice video. Somewhat nice to hear my country mentioned from you. 🇵🇭

[@Unknownuser1077-8oa]

No more Feudalism, no more corrupt kagawads and barangays, No more family reliance and mendicancy, no more utang na loob, always equal to American society.

[@harmless-kun]

15:20 basically what my Puppet PH HOI4 playthrough whenever I succeed in building enough army and naval forces.

[@AllanJohnSalgado]

As China is aggressively implementing one China and getting its territories like HK and Taiwan. To even the odds in Asia, US could get back the Philippines as its territory and convert all Filipinos to US Citizens. A vote should be implemented, As China growing tensions, Philippines being a US state is beneficial to both US and Philippines.

[@akamatt67]

Good video! Going down the same route, what if Japan became a US State after WW2?

[@ChariTheAlternate]

Alternate title: what if the US had a globle tight grip

[@edwardwatson8937]

Boy, the Philippines really screwed up!

[@nunyabiznes33]

After everyone stopped screwing us, we screwed ourselves!

[@huskadog7748]

Everything would be awesome and nothing bad would happen on the islands ever again 😎

[@thomaspynchon1868]

Man I wish we were Americans

[@Toolbox12-y1p]

@@thomaspynchon1868 what you should be wishing is that the pilipinos doesn't have corrupt mindset, mentality, culture that are making Philippines poor

[@briggitelondon]

@@Toolbox12-y1pexactly

[@micahistory]

very interesting scenario that I have never seen discussed before

[@dorito3366]

What if franz Ferdinand got shot like historical but he managed to survive, maybe he gets shot in less deadly place

[@JaquaviousDamian]

Yes

[@alphaundpinsel2431]

ww1 still breaks out, attempted assasination would still set off almost the exact same chain of events

[@Legion_YT_]

What if absolutely nothing substantial happened in Europe 1914? Ww1 still breaks out 💀

[@erapunongbayan6067]

@@Legion_YT_ it's a cannon event 💀

[@Bruhclan69]

Ww1 would still happen considering the amount of pressure at that time. All nations at that time is basically waiting for something to happen to start the war

[@appa609]

The actual answer? The Phillipines would have never been allowed to become a state unless it became majority anglo white. That's precisely why Puerto Rico still hasn't made it in.

[@eodyn7]

Amazing, literally everything you just said is wrong. If that was true, why is a majority Asian/Pacific Islander Hawaii a state?

[@comet_box9159]

that is not precisely why puerto rico did become a state. i feel like its more of a "how do we put another star into the flag" because like, a star on the flag for every state is a centuries long tradition and it would be pretty dumb to just break that tradition just so that an extra 3 million can gain extra rights like voting in the presidential elections.

[@SovetskieSoldat]

@@appa609 because hawaiis population is insignificant. Filipinos would’ve made up a large portion of the population, thus taking away power from European Americans.

[@therabidsquid432nerf9]

Great video! Can you make a sequel that explores how this might affect the Cold War?

[@alxndrmzksm8387]

@@therabidsquid432nerf9 One immediate effect of a Philippine statehood would be that it would most likely be Filipino boots who get to step on Vietnam first

[@aaron1983]

4:19 Is the most balanced and truthful assessments yet of a foreigner youtuber talking of our country. Finally someone who doesnt pretend to know the culture.

[@ghosgar3d]

I feel like decolonization would be more akward for America in this scenario, with them having less of a moral high-ground to force the europeans to leave holdings they considered part of their own core nation (like france with algeria and portugal with angola and mozambique)

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

I don't know about angola and mozambique, but forcing france to leave algeria was a stupid decision.

[@MartinDaniel-m8g]

Imo Japanese would in this case would more likely wanted to get siberian oil

[@carlosvalerochavez3045]

What if the Soviet Union survived in one of the 15 Soviet Republics ?

[@donaldlee8249]

That meant US would become a Latin country at least 50 years ahead of the current timeline.

[@WallNutBreaker524]

I thought the Philippines wasn't Hispanic.

[@TFSIChristmas]

@@WallNutBreaker524it was

[@joshua4785]

unlikely, the Philippines might be heavily influenced by Spanish culture, but it never lost its own ethnic and local cultures like what Latin America experienced... it is more Asian/Southeast Asian/Austronesian than Hispanic/Latin... so its integration into the US would make the US adopt more Asian and Eastern culture than Latin ones...

[@joshua4785]

@@WallNutBreaker524 Yes it wasn't.... The same goes for how India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan weren't British, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia weren't French, Timor Leste wasn't Portuguese/Latin, and Indonesia wasn't Dutch (especially how Indonesia was occupied by the Dutch for 300+ years as well)...

[@donaldlee8249]

@@WallNutBreaker524 look at their names. Spanish was quite popular prior to us takeover.

[@Shroob12-ii8il]

What if the Pahlavi Dynasty was not overthrown?

[@fernyrespi8109]

Do a philippine empire one, to make up for this.

[@youthoughtaboutit6946]

This one makes me wonder “what if the US had annexed Tokugawa era Japan” since we’re going the highly unlikely route.

[@tj_mora]

I think the most realistic path to statehood back then was to only admit a part of the Philippines as a US state, in particular the original Tagalog provinces who revolted against Spain. Only those born in this region would become US citizens. The rest would be divided into commonwealths where their people would only be US nationals but not citizens (like in Samoa). The lack of federal income tax would make the people of these commonwealths to want the status quo and not go for statehood. Only the Tagalogland would have been a state for several decades and that would have been somewhat acceptable to the the elites at DC. Just two Filipino senators and probably only 10 Filipino representatives. As to why the US would want Tagalogland to become a state, well, one reason could be is to finally put an end to the Tagalogs' aspiration of independence. Many of the Tagalog rebels would permanently abandon their armed struggle if they see that they are represented fairly in the US government.

[@mattstrandquist2148]

Accepting the posits of this scenario, I can absolutely see the rest of the US territories getting fast-tracked to Statehood very quickly, with the Filipino Precedent being used as the reasoning. I could easily imagine Okinawa being thus incorporated, as well as the rest of the Pacific Associated Territories. Picture the 21st Century dawning on a world where the Pacific is an "American Lake", dotted with and surrounded by many of the 100 United States. America, with it's population of 500,000+ and VAST network of Continental and Overseas States, would not be the largest country BY LAND, but would DWARF every other country on earth by total controlled territory (when you include territorial waters).

[@philtkaswahl2124]

Man, if you think your current electoral college issues are all borked up, USA, be glad you never had to put up with this as a reality.

[@mr.gigagod9736]

I mean the Philippines would be 3 times more populated than California

[@lenardregencia]

If the Philippines is a 51st US State, there’s gonna be more Americans from the mainland… Oh wait there’s already lots.

[@Naruto-u2k3n]

Somethings are better left unsaid

[@jamieervin4954]

Why do the colors sometimes randomly change brightness?

[@lenardregencia]

If the Philippines is a 51st US State, there’s gonna be a 51 star in the US Flag.

[@BamBamAbraham]

Nice

[@lipingrahman6648]

I rather like the Philippines. I visited there while being stationed in South Korea. They’re a good earthy people. But it would be a mistake to even think of incorporating them it into the USA. The same applies to Puerto Rico.

[@dsan8742]

This would almost certainly never work out 1) Philippines is vastly culturally distinct, huge amounts of kids that spoke a different language with only low levels of English proficiency 2) Vastly underdeveloped compared to every American state, the cost would be enormous and Philippines would be a money drain for decades 3) A bunch of coloured Asians would not be popular for the white mainlander US citizens as well as the shift in demographic voter pool would be very unpopular 4) At best Philippines would be maintained as a resource export state and for cheap labour after a couple decades of development, in reality the US would never integrate a state like the Philippines and if they did they would most certainly neglect its development

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

My answer would be hawaii

[@archangel5510]

What if the Philippines become a state? Lets proceed to discuss WW2 alternative timeline instead.

[@kenafford]

As a concerned citizen of the Philippines, I would like to present a proposal for exploring the potential advantages of a potential annexation by the United States. Considering the ongoing challenges of bureaucratic inefficiencies, corruption and persistent poverty in our country, it is crucial to evaluate all feasible options that could enhance the well-being of our citizens.

[@LaurieChesmore-o2c]

What if Texas survived and became an Empire?

[@whitehawk4099]

Where would they have an Empire? Nicaragua?

[@ShadowWolfRising]

I think Alternate History Hub already did this. The Conclusion was "It was doomed to fail one way or another.".

[@LaurieChesmore-o2c]

@ShadowWolfRising Wow, Nostalgia hit me there.

[@baginehunter4ver645]

Even if Filipinos wants to become a US state, it will never pass on the Floor and Senate. Take for example Hawaii the last colony to be admitted to the Union. The majority of white anglo Americans believe that the minority (majority) population of Hawaii does not align with their Christian beliefs. If it wasn't for the 442 regiment from Hawaii(the most decorated and bravest soldiers in US military), then Hawaii would be a colony like Puerto Rico.

[@alfrancisbuada2591]

I have to ask, who would want this?

[@god_perseveres]

Me

[@neilsumanda1538]

so, Douglas McArthur became governor general of the Philippines? 11:41

[@josemarirobledo5613]

honest i would like to become a US citizen but still live in the philippines 😅 i just want to visit the US without visa restriction

[@danielhotsinpiller7019]

i find this timeline VERY unrealistic, due to the fact that it would have placed a "sleeping giant" on their doorstep. it would be more likely the Japanese would have pushed Russia instead.

[@ZeusStormbringer]

Honestly sounds like my runs as America in Victoria 3 "Accidentally" getting involved for "public" interests just to expand America's influence

[@Frazier16]

The asian population in America 📈📈📈

[@evilgel666]

As a Filipino, Ph should have stayed as Colony of America.

[@エスティアハル]

PH will be better in 2024 if its a U.S state

[@TFSIChristmas]

Would take 30 years for a country in avg to be economically stable. Too late

[@James-rm7sr]

The issue for Japan here is the chance of annexation is high. If America already has a state nearby to basically launch attacks from. It is easy to think we would just annex Japan and turn it into a state as well, but the thing holding that back would be their religion. The religion of the Philippines would be far easier to integrate them into the US. Although, the Atom bomb still likely is made and used sadly. It would be out of not wanting to spend more lives even if the US has more it isn't going to want to spend that much man power taking Japan. The Philippines at this point would be a staging ground for that attack. I think Manila would be as it is today just more Americanized. If it were broken up in three states going back to the beginning. I tend to assume the US might actually let Mindanao go as it being Islamic. I think it is due to Mindanao they keep the Philippines as one state or two states, but not sure how that would work.

[@ponraul1221]

It would've been best to keep the Philippines as a Commonwealth protectorate with its high autonomy, instead of a state. It's population is simply too large and too far away to fully integrate with the rest of America. I say this as a Filipino-American. As a commonwealth, the Philippines still had its own President, currency, military, and legislature; all while enjoying the protection of the U.S., free trade, free movement, and most importantly, the U.S. Constitution. The best of both worlds. Meanwhile, the U.S. gets a vast territorial outpost in the western Pacific and a huge population/economic base to develop without having to rely on countries like China. It'd be a win-win. In fact a return of the Philippines being an American commonwealth protectorate would solve A LOT of issues surrounding China. It would also solve a lot of the deep corruption faced in the Philippines itself.

[@WarfareWizz]

What if Napoleons Marshall didn’t surrender Paris and Napoleon got there in time

[@pinoypooltv]

Would be crazy if the 81 provinces be each a state, the US flag would have 131 stars 😂😂

[@nunyabiznes33]

Would definitely be a very strategic state, like it's still a very strategic ally in Asia.