What if Cows were NOT Bad for the Planet?

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What I've Learned

What I've Learned

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@WhatIveLearned
@WhatIveLearned 3 жыл бұрын
🥩🌎RESPONSE to a popular youtuber attempting to "debunk" my Eating less meat won't save the planet video: www.patreon.com/posts/51285771 🐄🌎 ・There was a lot of positive comments but also a lot more than usual negative comments on my last video. And... I hear you guys - I realize my mistake and I am sorry I forgot to include a Simpsons clip in that video. I did include one image of a newspaper from the Simpsons for a brief moment but I realize that wasn't enough. You'll be happy to see the Simpsons clips back and well in this video.
@Xikini
@Xikini 3 жыл бұрын
lmfao
@xero7307
@xero7307 3 жыл бұрын
Oh thank God.
@N.A.M.LazyCloud
@N.A.M.LazyCloud 3 жыл бұрын
I just hope you've learned your lesson
@playfulpottery6399
@playfulpottery6399 3 жыл бұрын
WE DEMAND MORE SIMPSON CLIPS!!!
@Diablo-D3
@Diablo-D3 3 жыл бұрын
I knew the last video was missing something, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it
@Zetraxes
@Zetraxes 3 жыл бұрын
I learned from this video that if we complain enough we get more videos
@uhwhat4400
@uhwhat4400 3 жыл бұрын
Squeaky wheel gets the grease
@prntm926
@prntm926 3 жыл бұрын
@Bub Gunther Robertson aaahh 😂
@sheknows9704
@sheknows9704 3 жыл бұрын
AND FAST!
@TimBitts649
@TimBitts649 3 жыл бұрын
I learned from this video: "Only Rosie O'Donell"
@Senpai-dm9mt
@Senpai-dm9mt 3 жыл бұрын
And this video was horrible. Please, can I have another?
@LucasTigy2
@LucasTigy2 3 жыл бұрын
on the point of food waste, one of my local grocery stores started taking the "ugly" produce and cutting them up into vegetable trays at a discount. i feel like it's kind of a genius idea as you could cut out some of the blemishes which would waste less food while still making some money back on the investment instead of just tossing it all away. it's a situation where everybody actually wins in some way. it's one of those ideas that seems so simple that i wonder why no one has thought of it before.
@jacobblanton5179
@jacobblanton5179 3 жыл бұрын
Grocers and produce sellers have likely been doing that for centuries, you just never noticed during your previous trips to the supermarket
@LucasTigy2
@LucasTigy2 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobblanton5179 that's true, but it seemed like they were promoting it more by sticking it out in the aisle instead of burying it in the back. also, growing up, we divided the grocery list up between the family and i was never in charge of the produce section so i probably would never have noticed unless i was really looking
@Kello1231
@Kello1231 3 жыл бұрын
A person needs to process those veg. Costs the grocery store money. From an economic, not ethical, standpoint, it might make sense in some situations to just toss out the food.
@angelr194
@angelr194 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still amazed how much food US citizens waste... In countries like Mexico there is a "second hand market" for "unsellable food" (has marks, bruises, spots, etc.)
@LeFlamel
@LeFlamel 3 жыл бұрын
Compost is still a thing regardless of how much you throw out...
@loganw861
@loganw861 3 жыл бұрын
A video on how regenerative agriculture will save our soil from death caused by monocrop farming would be a great addition to this series. In which, ruminants play a crucial role in maintaining healthy soil which also sequesters carbon and preserves the ability of soil to produce crops. Ruminants, like cows, are key to creating nutrient rich soil out of dirt; essentially turning marginal land into usable farming land for crops.
@MatthewVanston
@MatthewVanston 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, you mean the medieval three-year rotation? It was pretty effective and healthy for the soil if I'm correct.
@tom4412
@tom4412 3 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewVanston that relied on manure from grazing livestock I believe.
@MatthewVanston
@MatthewVanston 3 жыл бұрын
@@tom4412 Yes. 1/3 of land was harvested, another 3rd was let to rest and the last 3rd was fertilized by manure. These 3rds swap roles each year every three years.
@sking2173
@sking2173 3 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewVanston - We planted clover in the “rest year” ...
@user-qp6lj6gu7s
@user-qp6lj6gu7s 3 жыл бұрын
You guys should check out the video "How to green the world's deserts and reverse climate change | Allan Savory", it's a ted talk available here on KZbin. He talks about how having herds or large animals roam the area is greatly beneficial. I also think anyone interested in clever solutions for farming and rotations the video "How We Raise Milk Fed Pastured Pork on Our Permaculture Farm " is worth a watch as well.
@pedromigueljorgeoliveira319
@pedromigueljorgeoliveira319 3 жыл бұрын
Food waste really deserves its own video
@jwen2528
@jwen2528 3 жыл бұрын
didn't you comment this on the other video too?
@25kgplantsmake1kgbeefmosts4
@25kgplantsmake1kgbeefmosts4 3 жыл бұрын
Watch unnatural vegan's video entitled "what I've learned doesn't read his own sources" Also "what I've learned is lying to you"🍎
@Django45
@Django45 3 жыл бұрын
@@25kgplantsmake1kgbeefmosts4 the second ad hominem line is what people use to push their own agendas.
@Anna-mv4ww
@Anna-mv4ww 3 жыл бұрын
His own sources contradicted what he says, watch unnatural vegan's channel to see where he lied and misrepresented the data
@CruzMonrreal
@CruzMonrreal 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anna-mv4ww I admite your dedication, but spamming the same comment in every thread doesn't help your cause...
@maracachucho8701
@maracachucho8701 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine when they find out how much water a pound of fish needs to grow.
@getlonley4823
@getlonley4823 3 жыл бұрын
yes thats the worst
@getlonley4823
@getlonley4823 3 жыл бұрын
we have to stopp all animals and all plants, both cause methane 🧐
@getlonley4823
@getlonley4823 3 жыл бұрын
@@interesant7 do you think dominion is the truth, about the world. and what do you think if human animals suffer pain
@jakelee7083
@jakelee7083 3 жыл бұрын
@@interesant7 Ah yes. Feel free to restate those points here.
@superawsomefabul0uspingas338
@superawsomefabul0uspingas338 3 жыл бұрын
@@interesant7 Eat dominion
@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2
@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2 3 жыл бұрын
Farmers are the most underrated people.
@waterandafter
@waterandafter 3 жыл бұрын
Farmers are selling out to large corporations.
@pianoman7753
@pianoman7753 3 жыл бұрын
@@waterandafter theyre facing fewer and fewer options to sell out or to go under due to tight regulations and restrictions mandated by suffocating laws
@pianoman7753
@pianoman7753 3 жыл бұрын
Farmers are literally the most useful types of people for the longest times in humanity but of course we screw them over for profit
@pianoman7753
@pianoman7753 3 жыл бұрын
Even though we depended on them for survival for a time
@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2
@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2 3 жыл бұрын
@@pianoman7753 Yes .... and now farmer barely exist, replaced by corporations. Our new owners If the population are cows .... then the corporations are the new farmers .... I laugh, but this is dangerous.
@Darnabymom
@Darnabymom 3 жыл бұрын
I can't say enough how much I appreciate both of you for putting this out there for the thought provoking discussions on how we all can make a difference.
@matthewmartel9295
@matthewmartel9295 3 жыл бұрын
"Cowspiracy" is a play on word? It's not about cows being pirates?
@FreeToBe339
@FreeToBe339 3 жыл бұрын
that's crazy, right
@My0Key
@My0Key 3 жыл бұрын
It is about making cow bootlegs
@perkele48
@perkele48 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what they want you to think.
@sigvardbjorkman
@sigvardbjorkman 3 жыл бұрын
Mooarrrrgh Mooney in the cowfers!
@overtlybiased
@overtlybiased 3 жыл бұрын
This is the documentary we needed
@chrisc3797
@chrisc3797 3 жыл бұрын
I remember some chump info-graphic saying Broccoli had more protein per calorie than Beef, therefore Broccoli is better for protein than Steak. Even if was the case, it would mean that instead of eating a 300g steak, you'd have to eat 3kg of Broccoli. It was beyond misleading. Broccoli is great, but for easily attainable daily protein it is not. People who have an agenda just spin data to manipulate rather than use it to help to understand.
@MatthewVanston
@MatthewVanston 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. You'll just get sick trying to get your daily nutritional amount by feeding on just broccoli.
@limathecat
@limathecat 3 жыл бұрын
True.. Which we also cant really fully digest like meat based food, not even to speak about the quality of absorption of the protein. ✌🏼
@PungeonMon
@PungeonMon 3 жыл бұрын
I would just use a vegan protein shake Like a normal human being Eating a crazy amount of protein is just too much work with cooking
@thesparks00
@thesparks00 3 жыл бұрын
HHAHAHHHA
@wobblybobengland
@wobblybobengland 3 жыл бұрын
That's about it, Gorilla eat mounds of leafy greens and no meat and they are harder than you and your dad put together.
@redcrown5070
@redcrown5070 3 жыл бұрын
What really irritates me is how markets THROW AWAY a significant amount of food and (at least in my country) is illegal for poor people to pick it up. Now I agree that eating a rotten piece of meat is a bad idea but come on, I see lots of goodies still packaged being thrown away because they reached an expiration date
@jahzzy
@jahzzy 3 жыл бұрын
If you live in the US you can thank the FDA and some Karen filing a lawsuit for that.
@kayo5011
@kayo5011 3 жыл бұрын
@@jahzzy also companies lobbying against those changes
@edwardroh89
@edwardroh89 3 жыл бұрын
@@kayo5011 correct. and also similar to how currently the meat industry is spending millions, more than oil on lobbying efforts right now. and just like history has shown, doing the same tactics like oil and tobacco companies have done with funding the fringe researcher who aligns with their desired viewpoints and fire researchers who have discovered that their products actually do harm/environment. Tobacco companies got caught red-handed doing this but here we go again...
@doopness785
@doopness785 3 жыл бұрын
About 40% of all food produced in the US is discarded
@NinjaMan47
@NinjaMan47 3 жыл бұрын
At least having mandatory composting of non-meats seems a no-brainer. The amount of produce and veggies just thrown into the landfills is a tragedy.
@rithvighachandrasekaran6960
@rithvighachandrasekaran6960 3 жыл бұрын
Just to add to the "India needs to adopt a more efficient dairy production system" statement, native cow breeds in India hold high cultural value to the people and these breeds have evolved to be able to withstand the harsh climatic conditions here. In comparison, Jersey cows ( the most popular foreign breed in India ) struggle to dissipate heat since the hot conditions in India are nowhere close to their natural environment. Also, there are many health risks associated with the A1 type milk that jersey cows make. From an environmental perspective, replacing native breeds will make a difference in GHG emissions like you said, but it should be noted that native breeds eat about half of what Jersey cows eat in a day. Using native breeds protects them from extinction and that's what I think should be considered important.
@mistahkurtz2351
@mistahkurtz2351 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't "efficient dairy production system" just a euphemism for factory farms? I don't see how a farmer could produce milk more efficiently (by whatever metric: cost, land, water, feed, etc.) than keeping the cows in a steel shed, giving hormones to grow quicker, antibiotics to stop them getting sick in crammed conditions. So if Indians want to preserve their native breeds, they could still optimise other variables by going for a mechanised factory farm approach. The other option is to stop drinking cow milk, butter, ghee, etc. and instead rewild these cows into their natural habitat. That would be the ultimate form of respect, since that way the cows can live on their own terms independent of humans.
@kaydenl6836
@kaydenl6836 3 жыл бұрын
@@mistahkurtz2351 “respect” that’s not respect, that’s sending them to their deaths for zero reason. Waste. Waste isn’t respectful. You know nothing about agriculture, specifically diary farming, if you think stressed, confined cows are efficient at all.
@mistahkurtz2351
@mistahkurtz2351 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaydenl6836 What makes factory farming efficient are the hormones, vaccines and antibiotics that allows cramming the animals together without them getting sick in the few years they are profitable. It actually a delusion that it is possible to meet the demand for dairy, beef, pork WITHOUT factory farms. Free ranging takes vastly more land, and without hormones or antibiotics makes the process even less efficient. So my point is that people who want to eat meat / drink milk in the 21st century need to embrace the ruthless efficiency of factory farms instead of holding on to a delusion of "happy cows". If people do not want to be involved in the sadism of factory farms then they shouldn't be consuming animal products in the first place.
@mistahkurtz2351
@mistahkurtz2351 3 жыл бұрын
@LBC Ulrica Free ranging cows requires vastly more land, and often the farmers use government land to graze their cows. This cause loss of biodiversity in these regions as the cows compete with native fauna, and the humans will kill any native predator that threatens their income. As I mention in my above post, factory farms use vaccines, hormones and antibiotics so that a cow can grow quicker, without getting sick compared to their natural environment. You can use Google (or your favourite search engine) to find: 1) How much land there is on Earth; 2) How much land a single cow requires in its natural lifecycle; 3) How much milk a cow "naturally" produces; 4) How much meat/dairy is consumed per capita in the developed world; 5) The world's current population. Then using this information you would have gathered it is pretty obvious that it is impossible to feed billions of people with grassfed beef, ahimsa milk, or whatever other excuse to think you are morally superior to factory farms. Finally if you want to talk about what nature "designed", I'm sure you can acknowledge the absurdity of fully grown adults suckling the teat of a ruminant. Mammals don't need to drink milk after they start eating solid food. So you are using an appeal to nature to justify a very unnatural behaviour.
@mistahkurtz2351
@mistahkurtz2351 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaydenl6836 Also how is a cow dying in the wild a "waste"? That cow will feed the leopards, jackals and vultures. Fungi will decompose whatever is left into soil for the plants. Nothing is wasted if you look at the ecosystem as a whole. We can only apply the concept of "waste" to manmade creations. And yes, I would argue it is more respectful to give the animal freedom than keep it in captivity forever. There is nothing wasteful about it, unless you view the animals as your property (i.e. slaves) which is not respectful.
@atherasia
@atherasia 3 жыл бұрын
"If it were for calories, we should drink Coca-Cola only." I could see a menacing dystopian future where we only consume Coke just from that line.
@cyrusol
@cyrusol 3 жыл бұрын
Sugar shot directly into the vains! Haha!
@_Hal9000
@_Hal9000 3 жыл бұрын
2022 soylent green
@meat3855
@meat3855 3 жыл бұрын
Coke tastes like dirt nowadays.
@lyingpancake95
@lyingpancake95 3 жыл бұрын
Idiocracy made a whole movie out of that.
@SomethinAintRightHere
@SomethinAintRightHere 3 жыл бұрын
Like brondo?
@JayOKProd
@JayOKProd 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this extended interview cut. I think a lot of misinformation tends to happen when media focuses on new research data but never the corrections that happens afterward
@ulforcemegamon3094
@ulforcemegamon3094 2 жыл бұрын
There is a reason why the replication crisis is still going on
@curiosity1324
@curiosity1324 3 жыл бұрын
POV: you just finished the first meat video and now you're surprised to find a 50 minute long documentary to chew on
@thepastaprogenitor851
@thepastaprogenitor851 3 жыл бұрын
You caught me
@MrStumpson
@MrStumpson 3 жыл бұрын
Crap, it is 50 minutes... Well, here we go
@MrStumpson
@MrStumpson 3 жыл бұрын
@@preguntate181 Animal abuse, and it being labeled as a climate issue, are two very different things. How we treat livestock definitely needs to change, but blaming livestock for climate issues is not nearly as troublesome as its been made out to be. That's what this video is discussing.
@Ok-fj4mv
@Ok-fj4mv 3 жыл бұрын
@@preguntate181 me who abuses my "pets": Oh baby I'm sorry but I'm already doing it for free.
@XDarkGreyX
@XDarkGreyX 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch
@cal6741
@cal6741 3 жыл бұрын
3:53 “Everybody who has a beef with livestock...” I have more respect for people who use puns
@isaacbejjani5116
@isaacbejjani5116 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, don't touch our steak, unless you want beef!
@zelitc
@zelitc 3 жыл бұрын
He totally owned it as well lol, no self-aware quip afterwards.
@lwmaynard5180
@lwmaynard5180 3 жыл бұрын
Don't mess with beef, you will hit the reef and suffer grief. ? ? Seek relief.
@Davued00
@Davued00 3 жыл бұрын
My biggest question is: What part of produced meat really comes from livestock living on the mentioned grasslands, and what part is coming from mass production where the animals are being fed raised plants? And what part of the food being fed to animals contains non-human-edible food as a sideproduct?
@neleawest7196
@neleawest7196 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, in usa it is very common for cows to live their first year of life on grassland. Then more than 70 percent (for pigs and chickens it is almost 100 percent) get shipped to factory farms to there be fed a very calorie dense diet until they get slaughtered
@parkerreese7471
@parkerreese7471 3 жыл бұрын
It is truly sad, as a proud farmer, knowing that people are lacking so much knowledge about how food is produced. It would be very wise if the government could make programs to get city people and farmers to communicate on where food actually comes from.
@madensmith7014
@madensmith7014 3 жыл бұрын
The cobs from corn, the stalks from wheat and rice, nutshells etc, while technically come from plants that are grown for human consumption, they are human inedible byproducts of plants that are commonly used as feed for livestock
@aaronwernz5788
@aaronwernz5788 3 жыл бұрын
I am a farmer, and you must remember that grown grain such as corn is a lot more expensive than grass or other biomass. A farmer, I suppose could only feed cows processed feed from corn but it would be extremely expensive and unproductive. Remember a farmer usually earns more buy producing more with less. Deferent farmers feed in different ways, but the goal is to usually just feed them the higher energy and expensive feeds at just the right time at the right amount to what they call finishing out. The ultimate goal is virtually always to find a way to produce more with less because you must remember the farmer has to pay for the feed. It’s the same with growing the grain. I do put chemicals and fertilizers on my fields but probably at a far lower rate than many people put on there yard, because I spend a lot of money on testing and special equipment to try and only put on the amounts that give returns. The survival of a farmer is very much connected to there ability to lower input use while maintaining production. Farmers have learned to do this extremely well in the first world that is why we have several generations of people that do not know real hunger due to there not being enough food to feed everyone. In fact farmers have done there job so well that many city people have virtually no idea how there food is produced, that is why it has became so easy for big industries to lie to them to try and get them to spend more money on food that is really no different or “safer”, or “greener” ultimately than any other food they find in the grocery store.
@johnc.8298
@johnc.8298 3 жыл бұрын
He addressed this already. He stated something like two years or more in open spaces then finished for four months in a feedlot on corn and grains.
@MrJohannson
@MrJohannson 3 жыл бұрын
You'll own nothing and you'll be happy. Does anyone really think the super elite will give up meat? Beef for me, but not for thee
@-haclong2366
@-haclong2366 3 жыл бұрын
It's weird, when I hear someone complain about the elites I somehow immediately think that they're right-wingers, something fishy is going on...
@pedclarkemobile
@pedclarkemobile 3 жыл бұрын
@@-haclong2366 why right-wing as opposed to left? Left-wing ideology is critical of elites of capitalism- owners of means of production.
@seaweedfromthenorth9758
@seaweedfromthenorth9758 3 жыл бұрын
@Interesant I do. And for someone who's name translates into interesting, you haven't brought anything interesting.
@mediaguyking7045
@mediaguyking7045 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really care, we should do things because we want to and because is the right thing to do
@purpose6113
@purpose6113 3 жыл бұрын
If only people looked into the great reset
@LeMeccerino
@LeMeccerino 3 жыл бұрын
Watch this get built upon even further after the next backlash and this becomes a full-length documentary. I'm all for this e-drama.
@GaryHighFruit
@GaryHighFruit 3 жыл бұрын
Get a life.
@thefool1086
@thefool1086 3 жыл бұрын
No.
@lauvelita3369
@lauvelita3369 3 жыл бұрын
Way more productive than Tati and James
@congratulationsmerry6386
@congratulationsmerry6386 3 жыл бұрын
true same here i just wanna watch them fight while im here eating vegetables and Meat
@superawsomefabul0uspingas338
@superawsomefabul0uspingas338 3 жыл бұрын
The Dude Big Brain
@jajdude
@jajdude 3 жыл бұрын
We have to stop blaming the cows. They are udderly tired of it. No wonder they're so moody. The steaks are high in this. I don't have a beef with anyone. We have to stop milking the system. OK, enough puns, it's pasture bedtime.
@annieridesagain3867
@annieridesagain3867 3 жыл бұрын
Lol , this is one comment I will remember!
@Koreenth
@Koreenth 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@haemind
@haemind 3 жыл бұрын
Love you dad
@denominagainatedableus13ye5
@denominagainatedableus13ye5 3 жыл бұрын
Don't persuade me into copying your comment.
@thomashughes4859
@thomashughes4859 3 жыл бұрын
He certainly grabbed this concept by the horns. Of course the vegans may tan his hide, but I'm betting my chips that he'll liver another day! 😏
@salmanbehen4384
@salmanbehen4384 3 жыл бұрын
_Numbers confess to anything if you crunch them enough_ -some guy on your previous video
@wreagfe
@wreagfe 3 жыл бұрын
Actually originally coined by Ronald Coase: "If you torture the data enough, they will confess to anything."
@BN-ff3nw
@BN-ff3nw 3 жыл бұрын
Like jumping between US and global numbers depending on when it fits your narrative? For example criticising using the global percentage of GHG emissions for animal agriculture when the US is lower percentage wise (although still higher in TOTAL numbers than most countries as the combined GHG emissions of the US are so much higher!) and then citing the GLOBAL number of 90 % of non human edible feed (i. e. mostly grass) fed to ruminants when 97 % of livestock in the US is grain-fed, meaning fed a diet of mostly human edible grains (corn, soy) in their "finishing stage"? By the way: That's the reason Dr. Mitloehner can be so proud of the efficiency of the US beef herd, "producing 18 % of the world's beef with 6 % of the world's beef herd": Because the US cattle is fed an unnatural diet of human edible grains in CAFOs to grow fast. If 90 % of the US beef herd would be grass-fed, corresponding to the global number he is co-opting, the US would have a much bigger beef herd including higher GHG emissions from methane etc.
@sansfreedom1629
@sansfreedom1629 3 жыл бұрын
@@BN-ff3nw 🍔
@CarlosAM1
@CarlosAM1 3 жыл бұрын
@@BN-ff3nw this was an interesting read but I do have to ask, do you have a source for the 97%? I wanna read more on this
@snintendog
@snintendog 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosAM1 they cant they just parrot Facebook Fake news all day long these Flat earth vegans.
@makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268
@makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the counter argument, the idea of cows causing most pullution is the most absurd thing I have ever heard
@life-hardenedschoolstudent2284
@life-hardenedschoolstudent2284 3 жыл бұрын
The _beef_ between WIL and Vegans would be _juicy_
@miguelmartin901
@miguelmartin901 3 жыл бұрын
But like in a rotten way
@Purplesquigglystripe
@Purplesquigglystripe 3 жыл бұрын
Really though, it's not against vegans (they have their personal reasons), it's against people who believe that not eating burgers will save the planet.
@snintendog
@snintendog 3 жыл бұрын
@@Purplesquigglystripe they typically are one in the same.
@Zomfoo
@Zomfoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Purplesquigglystripe Poor reasons.
@koffz-nl2118
@koffz-nl2118 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@twistedstrength.
@twistedstrength. Жыл бұрын
Keep doing your thing man. I appreciate someone with your reach finally addressing this issue. 👍
@denniskarlsson7121
@denniskarlsson7121 Жыл бұрын
Issue is that just 1 minute in he is already siding with a known benefactor of the agricultural sector. Mitloehner is known to be lobbied by ranchers to downplay their impact on global warming. Pretty much the exact same thing that happened when cigarette companies paid off researchers to downplay the negative effects of smokes.
@vik_versus8003
@vik_versus8003 3 жыл бұрын
The calorie comparison discussion around 22:40 is really important. It has already been noticed that the obesity crisis began with the 3 meal per day / food pyramid narratives
@P4r4k
@P4r4k 3 жыл бұрын
what would be a correct food pyramid, if the idea even is correct?
@jonchapman6821
@jonchapman6821 3 жыл бұрын
@@P4r4k Take the existing pyramid and literally invert it. Edit: I’m talking about the original Swedish pyramid.
@SoundBottles
@SoundBottles 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonchapman6821 so sugar as the base??
@cheeseyboy2121
@cheeseyboy2121 3 жыл бұрын
@@P4r4k well if you sent of a species specific diet you only need meat and animal products, carbon testing showed our ancestors used to eat a 80%+ meat based diet.
@Django45
@Django45 3 жыл бұрын
I am currently reading a book on how to combat obesity which is pretty interesting and discusses the drivers of it and many of the choices that were made by the "powers that be" without evidence to change our lifestyles which basically caused obesity. Like pushing low fat (high carb) diets, villainizing fats in general and pushing us into processed carbohydrate foods (the pyramid is a part of that). The book is called "The Obesity Code" by Dr. Jason Fung. I recommend it highly. Calorie is not a calorie no matter what. the hormonal responses to different foods have major impacts on how that calorie impacts our body.
@tinalusiany
@tinalusiany 3 жыл бұрын
1.30 in Japan. And you upload? Okay. Gotta watch
@WhatIveLearned
@WhatIveLearned 3 жыл бұрын
Started to get really sleepy trying to come up with the perfect text for the thumbnail then I just said screw it and went with "COW"
@Emerardo
@Emerardo 3 жыл бұрын
@Danilo Alves dont care xd
@AshAlmighty123
@AshAlmighty123 3 жыл бұрын
@@Emerardo savage
@Athanatoi
@Athanatoi 3 жыл бұрын
00.09 in Indonesia
@thanosal-titan
@thanosal-titan 3 жыл бұрын
@@Athanatoi Ngapain woy
@kingrojin7692
@kingrojin7692 3 жыл бұрын
Love how the thumbnail just says "COW"
@sunoklee2046
@sunoklee2046 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@WhatIveLearned
@WhatIveLearned Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support!
@brownbear315
@brownbear315 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry guys this isn't a one-sided oversimplification of an incredibly complicated and far-reaching topic. I hope people do their own research and listen to more than a single source. Two videos with that same source and no deep dive into the claims. Pushing a narrative is fine but far from a complete story. Let's all work to be better informed and not succumb to confirmation bias. That said I am glad there are researchers who are working hard on both sides of this topic.
@MeidoInHebun
@MeidoInHebun 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said. In the end people will watch whatever confirms their beliefs and tells them their current lifestyles don't need to change.
@Mede_N
@Mede_N 3 жыл бұрын
👍 thanks
@kintokisa
@kintokisa 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't change source, but there's some arguments that are new, and works against the negative comments of his previous video
@myykkoll
@myykkoll 3 жыл бұрын
What I've Learned loved the drama so much he had to go back for seconds, haha!
@mrshadow7738
@mrshadow7738 3 жыл бұрын
@Andrew H Vegans
@havierlango2621
@havierlango2621 3 жыл бұрын
@@JackAttackMMA 37:55 might answer one of your pre-conceived notion
@robbugati1954
@robbugati1954 3 жыл бұрын
WhutI'veLrnd deletes all comments that debunks lies in these videos. Also "drama" brings views and money, he should be ignored...
@myykkoll
@myykkoll 3 жыл бұрын
@@robbugati1954 then ignore him 4head
@dsakurai
@dsakurai 3 жыл бұрын
@@JackAttackMMA I'll eat my burgers with shame! Mm.. burgers...
@joshjones6072
@joshjones6072 3 жыл бұрын
I have always thought the anti-meat movement was genocidal against indigenous people and less well off people. Look at the obesity in native populations and other populations too. I always hated fry bread. It was a survival food for my ancestors, sure, wheat flour and oil provided by the military to native americans on reservations. But as soon as they were out of there they went back to hunting and sheep herding for protein and dense nutrients. You just have to eat too much starchy grains if you're stuck so poor. Diabetes and obesity is inevitable with too much fry bread. My family didn't listen and stuck with the traditional diet of our ancestors. We're not tired and anxious with diabetes and overweight. We're healthy and quick. And we don't eat that much meat, but not that much bread either.
@Ash_Wen-li
@Ash_Wen-li 3 жыл бұрын
The oil most likely wasn't processed vegetable oil either...
@MarekArawn
@MarekArawn 2 жыл бұрын
Fully agree. And how would Mr. Vegan Meister assure affordable prices for vegetables and fruit in Alaska, Yukon, Northwest Territories and Nunavut, just to name a few? Transportation costs already make fresh vegetables obscenely expensive.
@jonm3131
@jonm3131 2 жыл бұрын
This is the dumbest thing ive ever read
@mitchelledgecomb4086
@mitchelledgecomb4086 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, obesity from eating red meat for decades. The only reason alternative meat is more expensive is because of state subsidies which will change in the future
@niceadz6164
@niceadz6164 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchelledgecomb4086 you can't get obese from eating red meat. It's almost humanly impossible. You need carbs which have a negative effect on Leptin, your hunger hormone. Whilst it's a positive effect initially, it's a harder effect after a short time and many will be hungry after only a few hours. Hence the current obesity epidemic is down to an increase of carbs and a decrease of meat
@aidandm5987
@aidandm5987 3 жыл бұрын
dude i love how you responded to your critics with more FACTS! such a boss move😂 been subscribed for years keep up the good work
@SleepEludesMe647
@SleepEludesMe647 3 жыл бұрын
The land use stuff is pretty legit but I feel like the larger culprit is real estate, not farming. I know that in my country there are people who take advantage of the poverty of farmers to buy their land and convert it to tourist spots and subdivisions. Oh and car-centric transportation systems who’s only solution to traffic is to build additional lanes and roads instead of making more efficient use of the road that’s there 🙃
@connordrake5713
@connordrake5713 3 жыл бұрын
LOUDER. They blame cows so that the land that was used in agriculture will be converted to real estate. Now I see the bigger picture.
@ConciousAd
@ConciousAd 3 жыл бұрын
I think I live in this country you're talking about... kinda sad
@braincell4536
@braincell4536 3 жыл бұрын
Philippines?
@HeyMomonia
@HeyMomonia 3 жыл бұрын
@@connordrake5713 Damn now that i think about it it makes so much sense
@EliT347
@EliT347 3 жыл бұрын
This is why urbanization isn't really the best way to make room for new humans.
@michieldebaets9530
@michieldebaets9530 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely should have talked to more than just the one expert.
@slowlynow9
@slowlynow9 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I also agree with the one expert though too lol
@elmotociclista9296
@elmotociclista9296 3 жыл бұрын
Incidentally that expert Is working on a "sustainable livestock" thing... But Lets face It, nothing at an industrialized level called sustainable is so.
@snintendog
@snintendog 3 жыл бұрын
@@elmotociclista9296 water would like to talk to you same with 2nd grade science.
@elmotociclista9296
@elmotociclista9296 3 жыл бұрын
@@snintendog thanks language expert
@brianmiller2546
@brianmiller2546 3 жыл бұрын
He probably did but found out no one else in the scientific community actually agrees with this dudes cherry picking of stats.
@Mr_Kyle_
@Mr_Kyle_ 3 жыл бұрын
The food waste numbers are staggering! I wonder how much of that waste is from creating "food" like refined sugar and high fructose corn syrup and canola oil - edible items that aren't even food at all and are directly responsible for rampant metabolic disease.
@SahnigReingeloetet
@SahnigReingeloetet Жыл бұрын
Yeah just think about it, all the hydrogenated fats/oils, processed wheat, refined sugar, high fructose corn syrup. If you go into a supermarket that‘s I feel like 95% of the „food“ there, none of which is healthy and none of which we should eat. That‘s energy, time, money, and resources WASTED.
@renderproductions1032
@renderproductions1032 Жыл бұрын
I found 25Mega watt hours of electricity per tonne of sugar refined. (Irena.com)
@renderproductions1032
@renderproductions1032 Жыл бұрын
25 kilo watt hours per tonne of sugar refined is what I found.
@alwaysme_t
@alwaysme_t 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine when people start to care about how much water Avacados use.
@chrisdiprose
@chrisdiprose 3 жыл бұрын
and almonds .. they grow most of them in a desert for gods sake!
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisdiprose you can't even grow almonds in tropical regions. they're kind of a 'desert oasis' crop, it's probably what makes them so valuable and wanted.
@chrisdiprose
@chrisdiprose 3 жыл бұрын
@@JewTube001 how much water does it take to grow almonds ?
@TUG657
@TUG657 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing compared to beef… this is a fallacy argument. By the way don’t take any information from this guy, he doesn’t even read properly his own studies he chary picks.
@diegoseba12
@diegoseba12 3 жыл бұрын
@@TUG657 "Nothing" yeah keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.
@naibgulam2336
@naibgulam2336 3 жыл бұрын
What I've Learned is really taking this "beef" against vegans to another level
@jahlasam
@jahlasam 3 жыл бұрын
with those unbalanced, moronic and cherry picked rebuttals, he needs to. edit: guess i was misunderstood, i was talking about those debunking videos
@erex9875
@erex9875 3 жыл бұрын
@@jahlasam elaborate
@nioxic77
@nioxic77 3 жыл бұрын
@@jahlasam Go read some epidemiological studies, so you can sleep well tonight.
@konan8353
@konan8353 3 жыл бұрын
@@jahlasam I would genuinely like to hear if you think he is incorrect about some of the info and why he's incorrect, so that I don't spread misinfo
@jahlasam
@jahlasam 3 жыл бұрын
@@erex9875 ok i didnt make myself clear, i was talking about the "debunkers"
@innertuber4049
@innertuber4049 3 жыл бұрын
I like how he brought up the nutrient famines.
@Anna-mv4ww
@Anna-mv4ww 3 жыл бұрын
Watch unnatural vegan's video entitled "what I've learned doesn't read his own sources" Also "what I've learned is lying to you" His own sources contratricts what he says, watch unnatural vegan's channel to see where he lied and misrepresented data
@innertuber4049
@innertuber4049 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anna-mv4ww my dude, I just said I liked a particular part. People don't talk about it enough.
@ruschev2
@ruschev2 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anna-mv4ww watch sveriges videos where he exposes veganisms anti human roots and how suicidal the diet is
@MiggsMultiple
@MiggsMultiple 3 жыл бұрын
@twentyfivekgplants tomake1kgbeef Oh the poor chickens..... Do you think Foxes, coyotes etc consider a respectful death when they naturally prey on them?
@crazycrazy-vr9hj
@crazycrazy-vr9hj 3 жыл бұрын
@@MiggsMultiple Bro, I watched a video where a group of hyenas bite a bull's meat rod off. Nature is scary.
@iamiPAC
@iamiPAC 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! Yes again, well-done brother! Your channel is one of my favorites. TY..
@mtobolsky
@mtobolsky Жыл бұрын
Your channel is incredible! I tune into all the same info as you and share the same views but the way you aggregate everything is incredible… thanks for what you do
@theclowninghasbegun3442
@theclowninghasbegun3442 3 жыл бұрын
Corporations and elites: yeah blame the cows, not my factories and private jets
@EliT347
@EliT347 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel name is perfect for this comment.
@deadrizen
@deadrizen 3 жыл бұрын
Pisses me off seeing ppl like Ellen Degeneras, Bill Gates and Joaquin Pheonix blaming cows when they probably have about a dozen private jets.. I'm sure those are great for the environment... but no, it is the cows fault!
@cathygrandstaff1957
@cathygrandstaff1957 3 жыл бұрын
I remember one of the complaints about Michelle Obama’s school lunch guidelines that required fresh vegetables was that the vegetables tended to end up in the garbage so the schools were wasting money.
@banparlous2552
@banparlous2552 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dimitris_Half Because vegetables kinda suck to be honest.
@azlizzie
@azlizzie 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dimitris_Half cause they are served raw or steamed. Both of which are the least appealing ways to eat vegetables.
@r.t4729
@r.t4729 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dimitris_Half well at least we understand reasoning.
@snintendog
@snintendog 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dimitris_Half 3 things 1 Kids hate plain veggies no matter how they are cooked this is a fact worldwide they simply wont eat them and toss them away. 2 They spoil before the even get to the school or spoil before use 3 The massive amounts needed to feed schools after being prepped end up not going to kids since more and more kids bring their own lunch after the portions were found to be too small for children and were more unhealthy than junk food anyway due to the lack of nutrients kids needed.
@Wildbill101
@Wildbill101 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dimitris_Half The only “fresh” veggies I remember during the Obama days was a salad. Everything else was either from frozen or canned, both of which were disgusting IMO. There wasn’t a lot of creativity when it came to public school lunch.
@Serotophile
@Serotophile 3 жыл бұрын
I've been following your channel for a while, it pains me to watch criticisms against your researches, especially most recent ones that is about this video's topics. Some person telling you to shut up kinda ticks me off, not because I'm one of your fans, but because it's incredibly impolite. I watched your coffee = bad video and I thought you were off on some things, but I was biased cause I like coffee, but it was still a great video and I got a lot of great information. It would be nice if these o so wise reaction people could just be a little bit more polite and considerate then maybe some people can take them more seriously. I really admire your work and I'm grateful for your devotion into sharing your knowledge, it's just unfortunate that some people attack you for informations they misinterpreted or they just generally can't disagree with. Please keep uploading videos like these and don't let the criticisms stress you so much. Amazing work. ^u^
@edwardroh89
@edwardroh89 3 жыл бұрын
to be fair, meat industry is doing the same thing tobacco companies got caught long ago for: fund the very rare researchers who support their causes, aka profit incentives, despite knowing from internal research that their product DOES harm. americans...fooled again. first tobacco, second oil, third now meat. Meat industry spending millions right now on lobbying efforts.
@zbigbozbboy5245
@zbigbozbboy5245 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardroh89 why not attacking the oil one though, instead meat.
@JambAndSee
@JambAndSee 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of WIL. But we've been douped. Many statistics and claims in this video is warped or a flat out lie. Joseph uses global stats when it sounds better, then national stats when they're better. He links to articles, and draws his own conclusions. I feel like WIL, fell for what ever the meat industry shill was selling. But more thorough researching is needed
@BN-ff3nw
@BN-ff3nw 3 жыл бұрын
It's not impolite to tell someone to stop deliberately spreading misinformation about an issue that contributes significantly to the destruction of the planet. Actually, this video should be flagged for spreading misinformation. If you're still unsure about the "deliberately" part just look at 22:15. Mitloehner says: "If you look at an egg ...". WIL shows the picture of ONE egg. The text popping up for one second reads: "Values for 3 eggs". If that's not deliberately misleading, I don't know what is.
@mariahmoo
@mariahmoo 3 жыл бұрын
I would love a video on the health claims of vegan/vegetarian diets.
@inGods2hands
@inGods2hands 2 жыл бұрын
I was a vegan (no junk vegan foods) for 8-9 years.....at first it was great, but as the years went by my health suffered with no animal protein and my digestion was ruined. Vegetarian wasn't enough to recover. Grass fed, grass finished beef are carbon negative with their net total emissions at -3.5%
@toxx1220
@toxx1220 2 жыл бұрын
The diet doesnt matter, as long as you get the correct dosage of all your essential nutrients you will be healthy (and its possible with omnivore, keto, vegeterian, vegan etc). A diet lacking or eating too much of something will cause damage though. And looking at the average meat consumption, most people just eat too much.
@Thunderclick
@Thunderclick 2 жыл бұрын
@@inGods2hands Sounds like you needed to plan your diet better.
@zZ-bu1mp
@zZ-bu1mp Жыл бұрын
@@Thunderclicksounds like you didn’t like the truth
@Thunderclick
@Thunderclick Жыл бұрын
@@zZ-bu1mp please explain what nutrient is missing from vegan diets then
@Mir-gw6kj
@Mir-gw6kj 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with just about everything stated here, but I think the nuance should go even further honestly. It's not about pro-beef or anti-beef. it's about being for or against HOW that beef is produced and the means used to acquire it. Yes, regenerative grazing and use of unarable land sounds great, but for the most part that's not how it's going. We have massive swaths of forest being razed to make room for cattle or their feed crops. We have factory farms driving antibiotic overuse and pathogen proliferation with massive amounts of animal cruelty. I am an omnivore. I don't mind paying a little extra for grass-fed beef that I know was humanely produced. But unless we can transition to a food system where the practices described in this video are the "norm" the message here is going to go way over many peoples' heads.
@potatoeater3000
@potatoeater3000 3 жыл бұрын
This.
@SheepAmongG.O.A.T
@SheepAmongG.O.A.T 3 жыл бұрын
Last I checked rain forest is nothing compared to it was, and it isn't for cows. It's for corn and the ethanol.
@arcguardian
@arcguardian 3 жыл бұрын
I mind paying a little extra.
@maracachucho8701
@maracachucho8701 3 жыл бұрын
This is not a nuance of the argument, it's an entirely different one. You're now talking about ethics and health concerns, which are all perfectly valid mind you, but this video is focused on efficiency and environmental impacts, which as was said is just the current activist fad. Sooner or later the talking points will shift in the direction you want, and suddenly you'll be constantly hearing about lab grown meat... again.
@Mir-gw6kj
@Mir-gw6kj 3 жыл бұрын
@@maracachucho8701 the ethics isn't my point. My point is the methods for producing beef described here are far more sustainable that factory farming, they just happen to be more humane as well
@draveed
@draveed 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of food wastage is just infuriating!
@KayraTheNomad
@KayraTheNomad 3 жыл бұрын
A local market in Turkey has started to offer free fruits to children. It is cute, responsible, logical and very smart. This practice needs to go mainstream with not only children but for all people who can not afford.
@snakeace0
@snakeace0 3 жыл бұрын
The west already suffers from Insulin resistance and oxidated LDL, we dont need more fruit. Any food for the homeless and poor is better than none , but we should strive ( and we are well on the way) to reduce poverty as much as possible , so that as many people as possible can allow themselves to eat properly raised meat and organs. It is the only sensible way.
@randomroses1494
@randomroses1494 3 жыл бұрын
@@snakeace0 Yes, but I’m still looking forward to eating my first Hunza apricot from the tree I grew from a stone 10 years ago. It blossomed for the first time this year. Anyone can do this with no danger of raising their ldl, fructose induced fatty liver or t2 diabetes.
@cassieoz1702
@cassieoz1702 3 жыл бұрын
Free fruit for kids has been a thing in supermarkets here for a long time
@TaaviTuisk
@TaaviTuisk 3 жыл бұрын
Fruits are are helpful in moderation. The contain mostly carbs and as the video states, people already get enough calories. The issue is not enough proteins. Listen to the video.
@florkiler6242
@florkiler6242 3 жыл бұрын
they did that in my school and like 20% of fruits where just a fun thing to throw at someone not eaten
@TDace25
@TDace25 3 жыл бұрын
Really Excellent Video. Dr. Mitloehner was great to listen to.
@eliasberge815
@eliasberge815 3 жыл бұрын
49 precious minutes! Great as always
@Slicc7
@Slicc7 3 жыл бұрын
Holy cow!
@bobjoe164
@bobjoe164 3 жыл бұрын
Stop lol
@edmundblackaddercoc8522
@edmundblackaddercoc8522 3 жыл бұрын
'Batman!'
@elcat9091
@elcat9091 3 жыл бұрын
Cow bout dat
@edmundblackaddercoc8522
@edmundblackaddercoc8522 3 жыл бұрын
@Shane Rutherford Don't have a cow man!
@boygenius538_8
@boygenius538_8 3 жыл бұрын
I have a burger place near me called holy cow.
@64bit-
@64bit- 3 жыл бұрын
goddamn the dedication on this man he literally talked into the night
@markusboehm7072
@markusboehm7072 3 жыл бұрын
One note on "nutrient dense" animal food. A lot of seeds and nuts like sesame, sunflower, walnut, almond, pistacio are highly nutrient dense in some categories more than meat. A healthy mix of those can easily replace meat. Some legumes have extraordinary amounts of nutrients. Soy is the best example. That's why 90% of soy is used in livestock farming so much. It is the most efficient thing to feed to animals. And it's also fed to cows and other ruminants as "power fodder" (that's the translation of the German name) which in our farm makes up about 30% Percent. So those 30% are indeed edible by humans.
@psychogenesis6755
@psychogenesis6755 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness I've been watching "What I've learned" videos since he was at around 100k subs and I gave to say... the quality of these videos have never disappointed me. Thank you for this mini documentary. I knew there was no way livestock contribute more greenhouse emissions than fossi fuels since we use Cars, Boats, Factories, and trains.
@TheQuickSilver101
@TheQuickSilver101 3 жыл бұрын
I've been attempting to eliminate personal food waste for years and I certainly don't throw much away (even coffee grinds and other inedible bits get composted), but I think that's a message that either gets forgotten or neglected because it requires that individuals take responsibility. It's far easier to act self-righteous while not eating meat for one day a week and ignore the food you're throwing in the garbage than to take the time to plan so that food doesn't go to waste.
@R._L.
@R._L. 3 жыл бұрын
Just came from a critic's response to the previous video on this channel about meat consumption and its impact on climate change. The echo chamber of opinions out there pressing for forcing global behaviour change, aiming for possibly "saving the planet", whether the approach is justified or not, is impressive. ... and quite worrisome. Thank you Joseph, for asking the essential questions and attempting to provide honest, factual clues to answering them.
@VeganSanatani
@VeganSanatani 3 жыл бұрын
I think if we change our behaviour from an individual level it will be big step, simple because the numbers are still alarmingly high.
@andrewseong8136
@andrewseong8136 3 жыл бұрын
Great follow up video! You are a brave soul. All the power to you.
@thomasdarling2553
@thomasdarling2553 3 жыл бұрын
The editing and visuals on WIL just keep getting better 👌
@pointofview771
@pointofview771 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you find that strange? Seems like someone is sponsoring his new videos
@oatymilkshake
@oatymilkshake 3 жыл бұрын
@@pointofview771 Yeah the meat industry.
@NS-nc8db
@NS-nc8db 3 жыл бұрын
@@pointofview771 or perhaps his growth on youtube gives him more time and production value to make higher quality videos 🤔 Also a chance he hired someone to help with the editing process.
@zoetekauw9647
@zoetekauw9647 3 жыл бұрын
@@NS-nc8db He hired a friend of mine to do some of the animation in the previous video.
@kiattim2100
@kiattim2100 3 жыл бұрын
@@pointofview771 Well i mean.. most of the transition and animation are stock animation... oh also stock video. I dont think sponsor is a requirement for this level of editing.
@SApilot11123
@SApilot11123 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing in the world just changes unless there is an agenda for someone to profit behind it…
@Gabriel1o1
@Gabriel1o1 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't Watched it yet. Still I would like to say I am happy it is +40 minutes long. If you can make them that long, know some of us will appreciate it just for that reason, if nothing else.
@truegamer_007
@truegamer_007 3 жыл бұрын
Something to watch during Dinner eh?
@catherinehall2072
@catherinehall2072 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic deep dive into all the noise and the real issues surrounding our ability to feed the world.
@edwardsmith2811
@edwardsmith2811 3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you put audio as a podcast series? Would love to listen in the car
@XQzmeeMusic
@XQzmeeMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Get KZbin premium or KZbin Vanced (Arr!) to listen to KZbin with screen of. Yt premium Will sponsor creators you watch.
@scottttym
@scottttym 3 жыл бұрын
Just download and play then
@tonnentonie2767
@tonnentonie2767 3 жыл бұрын
@@XQzmeeMusic youtube vanced has dark mode. Checkmate.
@Anna-mv4ww
@Anna-mv4ww 3 жыл бұрын
Watch unnatural vegan's video entitled "what I've learned doesn't read his own sources" Also "what I've learned is lying to you" His own sources contratricts what he says, watch unnatural vegan's channel to see where he lied and misrepresented data🥔
@jaykstah
@jaykstah 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonnentonie2767 regular youtube already has dark mode lmao
@DjDiemonte
@DjDiemonte 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Very well put together. Thank you for this 👏
@heinzhertz6534
@heinzhertz6534 3 жыл бұрын
I love how people in cities complain about meat being bad to the planet and then throw phones away or other tech with lithium batteries every year. How clueless can you be
@CHAPI929292
@CHAPI929292 3 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOSH how can u like eat meat??? smh... - Sent from my 5 month lifespan iPhone 3000 X (mini version 2.0)
@ST-gd4eq
@ST-gd4eq 3 жыл бұрын
Tu Quoque fallacy.
@jackalope901
@jackalope901 3 жыл бұрын
“Two wrongs”, etc
@annieridesagain3262
@annieridesagain3262 2 жыл бұрын
16 months after watching this for the first time I'm refreshing my memory of such an educational video.
@ImageVersusImage
@ImageVersusImage 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! I think it's also worth looking into car dependence and how that relates to increased carbon emissions, particularly in the US since our cities are often planned around individual car use
@ottoweininger8156
@ottoweininger8156 3 жыл бұрын
I've never been to the US but I've been to Canada and, as a Brit, I thought it was crazy how dependent people are on cars. It felt like you needed a car just to get to the other side of the road.
@rue6695
@rue6695 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm moving to NYC for literally this reason. I like driving but not making it my hobby.
@mathieurenaud8864
@mathieurenaud8864 3 жыл бұрын
@@ottoweininger8156 I live in Canada and I am one of the only people I knoe in their 20s that doesn't have a car. People rely on them so much, they keep asking me why I don't eant one. Here it is a part of growing up in almost all families. Kids get their car before they even finish their license
@xarcile2282
@xarcile2282 3 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest here the only reason alot of ppl hating on the last video is because a bunch of woke vegans got offended that you were defending the meat industry even though that was not the point of the video.
@zoea3474
@zoea3474 3 жыл бұрын
Notice how most people just leave a dislike without even watching the video. This is how powerful human emotions are when their beliefs are being attacked, even when logic and facts are being presented. Awesome video btw
@qwertyuiop4638
@qwertyuiop4638 3 жыл бұрын
@Abel Abel Vegans let their emotions control their actions, most of you are like this
@twistedstrength.
@twistedstrength. Жыл бұрын
This is relevant now more than ever.
@NajCarnage
@NajCarnage 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this discussion very much. Thank you for sharing
@liucyrus22
@liucyrus22 3 жыл бұрын
A general observation is that the counter-arguments to these videos are usually condescending and usually in the “you are dumb for believing” tone. They are appealing to emotion and superiority. Yes we can do much better than this and some of their criticism are right, but notice how inflated are they.
@NajCarnage
@NajCarnage 3 жыл бұрын
@@liucyrus22 i don't care about tone or feelings or 'condescending' arguments. It's the viewer's responsibility to educate themselves on any topic. Counter-argument videos like these are needed in a scientific community because scrutiny is needed in science. But scrutiny itself must be factual and science-based, since any narrative can be twisted to serve other purposes.
@Dave995544
@Dave995544 3 жыл бұрын
You can save the planet by walking to the restaruant instead of going by burning fossil fuel. Not by skipping meat at the restaurant.
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 3 жыл бұрын
no one is going to do either. people love their beef and they love their cars
@WoodChoppa911
@WoodChoppa911 3 жыл бұрын
As an individual we should do both
@JoroJojoro
@JoroJojoro 3 жыл бұрын
You could easily do both
@toddhodgson2130
@toddhodgson2130 3 жыл бұрын
I recovered from T2D. I am not going back to over processed food substitutes.
@Narko_Marko
@Narko_Marko 3 жыл бұрын
my mind immediately went to team fortress 2, what is T2D?
@priestesslucy
@priestesslucy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Narko_Marko Type 2 Diabetes
@ffs6969f4u
@ffs6969f4u 3 жыл бұрын
Then eat vegetables.
@priestesslucy
@priestesslucy 3 жыл бұрын
@@ffs6969f4u personally, I average about a pound of meat. And half to a pound of veg per day.
@elloohno1349
@elloohno1349 3 жыл бұрын
@@ffs6969f4u vegetables are carbohydrates
@Revorino
@Revorino 3 жыл бұрын
Two videos in less than a month? You're spoiling us Joseph :)
@fatimaalaa2659
@fatimaalaa2659 3 жыл бұрын
The way I see it is that we have been consuming cows & other livestock for millenia & yet there wasn't a concern for the environment. But for the last 100~ years we have been industrializing so much & relying mainly on fossil fuels to work our machines, & it's in these 100 years that climate change has truly become a concern. So maybe we should focus on the latter rather than the former. However it is much easier to convince individuals to stop eating meat than to convince an entire society &, most importantly, multi-billion dollar businesses to change to greener energy sources, & you definitely feel helpless against such a huge task, so it's easier to go for individualistic goals instead
@bloomblock2768
@bloomblock2768 3 жыл бұрын
Except it is my right to eat what i want and my nature to eat what i eat.
@lizily3317
@lizily3317 3 жыл бұрын
It's exactly what I was thinking, we started having climate change problems when the industrialization of literally everything started, the biggest culprit here is definitely the energy sector, which affects every other sector, including livestock
@MatthewVanston
@MatthewVanston 3 жыл бұрын
The only "greener" energy that is truly effective as of now is nuclear. Solar panels aren't effective, windmills aren't effective, biofuel isn't effective, but most of all: these energy sources are too expensive in maintenance, they pollute a lot and they are too unreliable.
@beepbop8392
@beepbop8392 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your hard work, Joseph.
@ichibanmanekineko
@ichibanmanekineko 3 жыл бұрын
Why can't homeless shelters have terms and conditions which state that 'some food produced here is produced from supermarket waste. by eating on these premises you accept that the owners, workers, and charity are not liable for any illness, poisoning or ill-effects caused to you by eating the food'.
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 3 жыл бұрын
because that isn't how the laws works, you can't simply write away the liabilities. it may seem that way with all the EULAs you ticked on but those aren't law.
@MatthewVanston
@MatthewVanston 3 жыл бұрын
There is such a thing known as a food bank, mate.
@vergildu91
@vergildu91 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content man. I’m amazed by the fact that this channel even exists. I never comment, never. But I really felt I had to promote the channel and express my gratitude.
@vergildu91
@vergildu91 3 жыл бұрын
@Abel Abel If you read again my comment, you will discover that I never said I agreed with the content. I'm genuinly grateful for people bringing new topics and ideas; so I can examine these and do my best to sort out what is true and false.
@muabyt7333
@muabyt7333 3 жыл бұрын
In the past we always had to wait 1-2 months for a new video. The waiting was always super painful. But now we get videos every 2 weeks. Thank you so much. They make my day.
@muabyt7333
@muabyt7333 3 жыл бұрын
@@interesant7 No thanks. I mostly buy local animal products (Switzerland) :)
@anantvignesh9906
@anantvignesh9906 3 жыл бұрын
I am a vegetarian and I found the facts in this video very interesting 😃 It's not about being vegan or non vegan. As the guy told, food is personal decision. I always have respected my friends who eat meat and I don't have any problem eating with them lol❤️
@TheZenytram
@TheZenytram 3 жыл бұрын
it is about waste. " if you waste you dont deserve to eat" thats my quote.
@priestesslucy
@priestesslucy 3 жыл бұрын
*@ What I've Learned:* any chance you could do a piece on Regenerative Agriculture? Mark Shepard, Greg Judy, etc?
@manueldejesusrojassandi3919
@manueldejesusrojassandi3919 3 жыл бұрын
I second this
@WhatIveLearned
@WhatIveLearned 3 жыл бұрын
Was just watching a Richard Teague lecture
@shutupack5389
@shutupack5389 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhatIveLearned seconding this
@roostermako6749
@roostermako6749 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhatIveLearned seconding
@4bidden1
@4bidden1 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhatIveLearned you should do a video on mental illness/childhood trauma...Dr. Gabour Mate is a renown psychiatrist expert at childhood trauma. I think you would make a great video regarding that topic also
@BillEarl
@BillEarl Жыл бұрын
A very interesting video, keep em coming.
@bernardchanson4225
@bernardchanson4225 3 жыл бұрын
Should include the water footprint of common popular foods such as almonds, banana, avocado and pineapple. You'll be suprised how unsustainable some of these crops are ;)
@johnc.8298
@johnc.8298 3 жыл бұрын
The water for irrigation coming from California aquifers etc. must be astronomical. California doesn't receive much rain.
@MatthewVanston
@MatthewVanston 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnc.8298 The Northern part of California is rather fine climatically speaking but the more Southern parts are indeed not faring so well.
@johnc.8298
@johnc.8298 3 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewVanston Ah, the west coast rains of B.C., Washington, and Oregon, reach Northern Cal. thx. J.
@MatthewVanston
@MatthewVanston 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnc.8298 I never mentioned rain, all I'm saying is that Northern California is a fertile land compared to Southern California, and yes there's rain there.
@irispopa4722
@irispopa4722 3 жыл бұрын
and spirulina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahaha!
@TryingToLearnSomethingNew
@TryingToLearnSomethingNew 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve approached many local grocery stores about collecting their food waste so I could feed it to my livestock and/or compost it. They refuse to give it away and state there is some law against it. I’m in the U.S.
@dongrant810
@dongrant810 3 жыл бұрын
That is so sad.
@TryingToLearnSomethingNew
@TryingToLearnSomethingNew 3 жыл бұрын
@@dongrant810 I intend on revisiting this issue by looking into state and local laws then approaching the management about collecting the food waste. It has got me wondering if it’s what they’re told about the laws or if there are actual laws restricting them.
@ghulamfalah
@ghulamfalah 2 жыл бұрын
My question is why these laws exist
@Bakalakah
@Bakalakah 3 жыл бұрын
I love the content and the research you do. I would love to see a reaction to a video of Eathling Ed which he did on this matter. I'm curious what your thoughts are since both of you seem to be scientific people and like to discuss I'm curious what WIL's viewpoints are.
@financialstablility7196
@financialstablility7196 3 жыл бұрын
@@rasputozen Not trying to be antagonistic, but what plot holes did you see in the argument? You aren't going to change anyone's mind by making claims and not supporting it.
@El-Burrito
@El-Burrito 3 жыл бұрын
@@rasputozen In who's arguments?
@NotMe-vy7bb
@NotMe-vy7bb 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the studies they have cited in the past two videos are very poor studies and are attributed to people who were paid to do the studies by agriculture industry.
@Kneza99
@Kneza99 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotMe-vy7bb Why would that invalidate the research? It makes sense for industries to invest in research to find out where they could improve.
@kronkrian100
@kronkrian100 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kneza99 He is saying that said studies could easily be fabricated bogus studies meant to push a false narrative which would effectively ensure the jobs of the people and corporations funding them. If you ask me, these last 2 videos are meant to be a stick with which to poke independent research groups and people with resources to do a more in-depth research on the points presented in said videos.
@kevinkubota2016
@kevinkubota2016 3 жыл бұрын
If I could give this 100 thumbs up, I would eagerly do it. Thank you for presenting this in an attractive way.
@kevinkubota2016
@kevinkubota2016 3 жыл бұрын
@Abel Abel You are correct. However, you haven't used facts to dispute what was presented. What are your preconceptions?
@charstringetje
@charstringetje 3 жыл бұрын
If ruminants are fed mostly grass, why is "Grass fed" and "Grass finished" beef a thing in the US? And a thing that comes at a premium, at that.
@johnkane1800
@johnkane1800 3 жыл бұрын
Becuase finishing isn’t the same thing as raising; no cow can survive eating exclusively corn but to fatten it up you need to force it or use hormone
@persie8060
@persie8060 3 жыл бұрын
This american concept is so crazy to me. Most of animals are grass fed in my country. Many even freely kept. You can go and visit the farm where the animal lived. When you want to know more about the animal and the place where it lived, you buy at butcher. They know literary everything about about the animal. On the package you have every info you could possibly want. So shocking to see those cows, pigs and hens kept in cages or in small places.
@FireStormOOO_
@FireStormOOO_ 3 жыл бұрын
Massive govt funded corn subsidies that make it unnaturally cheap and used in everything. "Grass fed" price is what beef should cost if you weren't paying for part of that steak with your taxes. Very US specific political quirk mind you.
@mitragyninethespeciosa6891
@mitragyninethespeciosa6891 3 жыл бұрын
@@persie8060 What country?
@jonathanbeny
@jonathanbeny 3 жыл бұрын
I WILL NOT EAT THE BUGS. I WILL FARM BLACK MARKET CHICKENS AND TRADE THEM FOR BEEF.
@johnpena2228
@johnpena2228 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@rugvedkulkarni1593
@rugvedkulkarni1593 3 жыл бұрын
Feed the bugs to the chickens
@123495734
@123495734 3 жыл бұрын
Dilate
@cieproject2888
@cieproject2888 3 жыл бұрын
We should just feed the crickets to the pigs and chickens
@craigQuixote
@craigQuixote 3 жыл бұрын
Neither will I. Do you have any of those protein bars from Snowpiercer?
@DolceArdore
@DolceArdore 3 жыл бұрын
40% of our food is wasted. Of the 60% remaining, 40% is excess caloric intake (overeating). So really we are wasting 64% of our food supply while making ourselves fat and unhealthy.
@mosiah9205
@mosiah9205 3 жыл бұрын
That is unbelievably wild. The implications of that are insane. If western societies are getting fatter and fatter off of 60% of food supply, that should mean that we're selectively/intentionally eating the crappy stuff. I'd love to see a some time dedicated to this. Maybe someone can find more connections between the numbers and the fatness.
@Holtium
@Holtium 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely laid out, easy to understand
@AskarYestay
@AskarYestay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Your work will not be forgotten in years
@JD..........
@JD.......... 3 жыл бұрын
Generations... This guy has really helped change my life with his videos.
@rossevanricamara4169
@rossevanricamara4169 3 жыл бұрын
@@JD.......... This guy presented the cure to modern living.
@aless13260
@aless13260 3 жыл бұрын
This guy cured my cancer, thank you.
@jfrank1882
@jfrank1882 3 жыл бұрын
As a lecture used to say, FACT CHECK FACT CHECK !!!
@pise8149
@pise8149 3 жыл бұрын
@@interesant7 Damn dude. Learn about crop protection. A multy billion dollar worth industry that is exterminating wild life.
@De_ep1
@De_ep1 3 жыл бұрын
@@preguntate181 The animals in the wild would die in more gruesome ways, the cow, pig, and chicken are weak and they evolved to be more tasty, from thosands of years ago by selective breeding, yes that was cruel to some extent, but at this point we cant let them go, or they will be eaten ALIVE
@muellernikolai8630
@muellernikolai8630 3 жыл бұрын
@@De_ep1 you don't have to let them go, just stop breeding them and they will stop existing by lack of reproduction eventually
@MatthewVanston
@MatthewVanston 3 жыл бұрын
@@muellernikolai8630 Why should they disappear?
@dragonxx444
@dragonxx444 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaaaaa... Love it when notifications come from you!
@twistedstrength.
@twistedstrength. Жыл бұрын
What's also not mentioned in these discussions is that the ruminants trap carbon in the top soil they create. Also, without the ruminants, the ground eventually turns into a desert. This is what happened in Midwestern USA during the great depression, it is what happened in the Sahara Desert, and what happened in the Middle East. The cradle of civilization is in what is now modern day Iraq and thousands of years ago, that land was fertile and filled with vegetation. We would not have been able to start civilizations in barren desert. We created the desert by stripping the nutrients from the topsoil with agriculture and not replacing it through ruminants. When there is no animal waste to create the topsoil and plants have no nutrients to grow there, then there is also no water held there either. Water will stay in an area when there are sinks to absorb, hold and evaporate it. Without the vegetation to do so, the water only evaporates and leaves the area. This is how deserts are created. They have no rain because there is no water to evaporate there; hence the term "Water Cycle"
@sergiolujanlozano6008
@sergiolujanlozano6008 3 жыл бұрын
I would also liked an interview with the oposite part of the view. Also i have so many things that don´t fit in the narrative. 1- Hoy many meat do we need to eat ? Because one thing i presume that meat consumptions nowadays is way bigger than needed. 2- Where does U.S take meat from? is it only from their farms? because importing meat from the other part of the globe may not be the most ecological way to consume and US imports a way big part of its meat. 3- What does the average meat industry? Because maybe the average farmer does not use non edible plants and prefers to use crops that are more energetic dense in order to gain more weigh in the animals and gain more money in less time. 4- Not all farms feed their cows witth grass, so the argument of the green water may be re-examined in order to look what the industry actually does. I think we need to compare what is used in the average industry not only on the U.S to know if its ecofriendly. Because maybe great part of the meat we consume does not come from farms that are efficiente with the resources as the doctor was saying, and the reality is that those methods are only being use in a small percentage of the farms. It´s like comparing the footprint of one avocado grown in the other part of the world in a very dry clima and one that is local un a clima that fits its needings.
@Yanchea
@Yanchea 3 жыл бұрын
Well I can answer #1 - unless you want a strict average it completely depends on your life style. If you have a sedentary office job, you can probably skip meals entirely, versus a very active job like a fire fighter who needs massive protein/carbs.
@maikf5741
@maikf5741 3 жыл бұрын
Another point could be: how big is the footprint in the rainforest for burning it or cutting it down to grow for example soy. About 95% are for the animal to eat. And the export to europe, where you cant grow gen modificated plants
@sergiolujanlozano6008
@sergiolujanlozano6008 3 жыл бұрын
@@maikf5741 Totally agree. I think that they are using as an example an eco-friendly farm but he industry is way worse as it looks for profit, so they use more energetic dense crops, then when you realize that a cow eats in a day the meal of 5 people its when you realize that it's not that efficient to eat meat in the "industry" mode.
@edwardroh89
@edwardroh89 3 жыл бұрын
we really need the opposite viewpoint. these last 2 videos only reference the one researcher who basically dedicated his entire life in pro-meat research. this reeks of meat industry (who is "coincidentally" spending millions in lobbying efforts right now) enacting the same tactics that tobacco and oil industries have done: despite having internal research on how their product harms people/environment, they fire those researchers and fund the rare researchers who align with their viewpoints. we will never learn despite tobacco companies literally getting caught red-handed doing this...
@sergiolujanlozano6008
@sergiolujanlozano6008 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardroh89 I totally agree
@kitsurubami
@kitsurubami 3 жыл бұрын
you should have more than one source for videos like this.
@ottoweininger8156
@ottoweininger8156 3 жыл бұрын
It's an interview with an expert. An expert who has dedicated his career to researching the topic.
@kristadzive
@kristadzive 3 жыл бұрын
It takes work.. Do it yourself, if you can better
@kristadzive
@kristadzive 3 жыл бұрын
but k, I'm not against constructive criticism doh, you're tottaly right..
@MewPurPur
@MewPurPur 3 жыл бұрын
@@ottoweininger8156 An expert who is funded by the meat industry and has monetary incentives to talk in favor of meat. An expert whose papers have been criticized a lot. Even without bias, I know for a fact experts often disagree on topics like this, so it's very useful to not cherry-pick just one that is in favor of meat.
@anulfolantigua6291
@anulfolantigua6291 3 жыл бұрын
@@ottoweininger8156 More like get paid by the meat Industries to spread misinformation 😂😂
@brometheusjables2644
@brometheusjables2644 3 жыл бұрын
"Now take this... take this...." Me: my body is ready
@leroyrichins6232
@leroyrichins6232 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview with a credible person.
@rimlandtheory
@rimlandtheory 3 жыл бұрын
He does not mention the amount of grains used for modern cow farming. It's mentioned how US beef farming is so efficient but the reason is that US produce most of its meat not from grazing cattle but from grain feed cattle. Your main point is that cows make use of marginal land but when you are feeding cows grains grown in arable land it stop making sense because they start competing for the produce from our arable land.
@snintendog
@snintendog 3 жыл бұрын
.....your a moron cows eat the grains that we cant eat IE corn husks and the actual plant itself not the grain we use to make breads and such.
@rimlandtheory
@rimlandtheory 3 жыл бұрын
@@snintendog not true. The entire grain is used to make lifestock feed. Only the leftover from the human food processed grains are just the husks and inedible parts.
@dreamingoftacos4388
@dreamingoftacos4388 2 жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly that you can't tell a person what they should eat. I am a vegetarian and my husband eats meat. Today I cooked him a package of sausages and while doing so I ate a kale salad, potatoes with guacamole, and so on. I don't judge anyone who eats meat just like I would hope no one would judge me
@bradzimmerman3171
@bradzimmerman3171 Жыл бұрын
Dream on *! Your vegan diet will GET you first the pain then you will die
@LannyRoe
@LannyRoe Жыл бұрын
Cool
@dreamingoftacos4388
@dreamingoftacos4388 Жыл бұрын
@@LannyRoe update...I went back to being an omnivore
@jahrn692
@jahrn692 3 жыл бұрын
Woah a 50 minute video!!! Damn, guess we won’t have another video in a while then…. But that’s okay, thanks a lot Joseph
@annieridesagain3867
@annieridesagain3867 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this extra video , it has given so many people something to think about .
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