What if Germany won WWI (part 1) - Historian Reacts

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

Apologies for the weird cut there at the beginning...youtube cut out the music at the beginning of the original video because of copyright issues which means it also cut off the end of my sentence as the music began.

[@littlegreenhelmetboi4148]

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[@gregmatesich2479]

Vlogging Through History have you heard or read Harry Turtledove’s “Southern Victory” series. He has the Confederate States winThe Anerican Civil War which leads to a trilogy called “The Great War”. It has France, England, Russia and the Confederate States as The Entente vs.Germany, Austro-Hungary Empire, and United States as The Central Powers. Germany, Austro-Hungary, and United States win the war which leads to France, England, and Confederate State turning towards extremely radical governments as it was mentioned in this video. It is a great series to read. It ends with World War 2. I would recommend reading it if you like alternative history.

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vlogging through history I challenge you to a game of hoi4

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You should react to what if the USA Joined the axis powers !

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Can you make a video about DFT Historys Turkish War of Indepience

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Yeah

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For me, I save it until I'm nice and comfy then watch

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[@sirnetflix7162]

I think Alternate History is a really fun topic to think about, the effects of a single war's outcome is unprecedented.

[@chnb517]

@AileDiablo cool story bro, maybe you should write a book about it or something

[@ResistTheGreatReplacementEU]

@AileDiablo Nah the Ottomans would’ve likely collapsed eventually anyway. The only difference is that it would’ve happened later. The same wound likely happen with Austria Hungary. The only two central powers who would’ve benefited greatly would be Germany and Bulgaria.

[@walterloehrmann5213]

unpresidented

[@TheAlphatitan]

@AileDiablo except that wouldn’t happen. Unfortunately Ottomans we’re suffering from horrible leaders for a long time and there was already a pretty large division between the Arabs and Turks. If they untied together then I don’t doubt they would be the greatest empire in history but considering how things were going an Arab revolt was long time coming and WW1 just jumpstarts that.

[@joseph-mariopelerin7028]

to think that somebody had hitler in his scope and didn't fire back in ww1, is a real mind betch! lol ... i guess Stalin would of eventually took over... as he was pretty ready for world domination also... thanks god these two mega power ended up destroying each other!!

[@LtGhost-tb3kq]

Speaking of Hoi4 (Heart's of Iron 4) and if Germany won WW1, there's a mod called "Kaiserreich", it's a world if Germany won the Great War. Easily one of the best mods for Hoi4, you should check it out if you haven't already.

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

Yep I've done a few playthroughs on the channel with that one, you're right it's very good.

[@LtGhost-tb3kq]

@@VloggingThroughHistory Alrighty, good to know!

[@andknuckles101]

@AileDiablo Can you like stop spamming the same thing on every single replies section

[@princevonloffenschaussen3056]

don't forget darkest hour

[@thegreatestoctopus9739]

@@andknuckles101 who tf are you talking to g?

[@robertdalton860]

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[@evalationx2649]

France never really had a strong right wing movement during that time. The closest it had to what we could call a "far-right" would be the monarchist movement. In France they did have a huge far left movement, not necessarily communist, but close to it. In this scenario its very likely France would become the new "home of the revolution" for left wing ideology. Much like Russia did in our timeline.

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

I agree.

[@Yora21]

Union des républiques socialistes conseil

[@xenotypos]

@AileDiablo Dude, the gdp of the Ottoman empire just before WW1 was half the gdp of Austria-Hungary, which was itself already half the gdp of Germany. Stop dreaming. The main problem the Ottomans had, and that only Ataturk managed to get rid of, was its archaïc administration and governement. It's more likely that by winning the war, they don't put themselves into question and keep their oudated system as it was (after all, they won), which would mean even more economic decline. Starting all anew like Ataturk did was the best that could happen to Turkey. Also, you completely forget what period we're talking about: the era of nations. Wars or not, won or lost, it wouldn't change that multiethnic empires like the Austro-Hungarian empire, the Ottoman empire, or even the colonial empires of France and Britain, were doomed to be dismantled in the 20th century. Times were changing. Ataturk understood that such an empire was a thing of the past, and that Turkey should exists as the nation of the Turks to remain stable and unified. And there were a lot more German people than Turks, I mean, a lot. Germany being more developed, more modern, with more infrastructures and stuff, isn't even the most important: without a lot of people unified (generally behind one ethnicity) even a miraculously developed country can't hope to reach the level of influence of a country that nearly reached 70 million even before the war and its gains.

[@Verebazs]

@@xenotypos Actually, the role of nationalism and ethnic tensions in the role of the collapse of the old empires is ridiculously overstated, because it's more romantic. The economic hardships brought on by the war played a far larger role. It's especially ridiculous to asign ethnic tensions as the main reason to Austria-Hungary's collapse, if you consider that the newly formed states were even more ridiculously multiethnic than it was. The name "Kingdom of Serbs Croats and Slovenes" alone debunks the idea that those were nation-states. Same with Chechslovakia. Romania was the least diverse, and it still had around 10 ethnic minorities making up around 20% of it's population. To say nothing about the fact, that prior to the war, Transylvanian romanians generally actually looked down on Romania as a barbaric land. Also, Austria-Hungary's rate of econmic development actually overtook Germany's in the early 1900s (4% to Germany's 3% IIRC). So without the war, of with a short and victorious war, the economic advantages of the AH would've kept nationalistic tribalism in check. Of course reform would've been inevitable eitherway.

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

The reduced France would have lost its colonies to Germany instead of later independence movements so it would be one more thorn in the side to boost the next few cycles of the Franco-German permanent state of belligerence.

[@glennjanot8128]

Werner von Braun didn't flee Germany though, he played a large part in developing the V-rockets. He was recruited by the US via Operation Paper Clip after the war.

[@dnocturn84]

And it wasn't just Werner von Braun, it was also his whole team of scientists. He was just the most popular one of them.

[@-Eisenfaust-]

The Americans took many German scientists with them to the USA after the war. But also the entire knowledge of the Germans. (Jet technology, nano-technology, atomic technology-ABC warfare) were all achievements of German research.

[@richardelliott9511]

Von Braun absolutely fled Germany, just not until after the war ended. If I remember the story correctly, this came from a book I read many years ago, he saw the writing on the wall figuring that he would end up going home with one of the Allies. Upon deciding that the Americans would be the best to go home with, he actively sought them out to surrender to. Under Opperation Paperclip, they snatched him up and then went after his team before the Soviets knew what was going on. Unfortunately, the Soviets did get a part of the team too and with a different emphasis within their space program managed to get ahead of us for a while with Sputnik. And you know the rest. Thanks

[@dnocturn84]

@@richardelliott9511 The reason that the Soviets got part of the team is, that the US didn't bother with low tier scientists and engineers. They solely caught the top tier scientists and thought this would give them everything they needed and would also make it impossible for rivals to do anything with the remains of that technology. The underground V2 production (and the concentration camp connected to it) was the final spot where they managed to get their hands on this technology, which is very close to where I live, in northern Thuringia. The Allies, or better the US Army, showed up first and took the place. They took the top scientists (some surrendered to them even earlier, like von Braun), completed rockets and important per-assembeled rocket parts and shipped them to the US. After Germany surrendered, the Allies wanted a part of Berlin from Stalin, which belonged to the territory his Soviet forces captured. He refused, even though he agreed to it prior to the victory. The Allies offered the state of Thuringia to him in exchange for half of Berlin. Stalins spies also knew a little bit about the US findings in northern Thuringia. So Stalin agreed and Thuringia switched ownership from US to Soviet. Stalins forces double checked the factory, managed to find all of the second and low tier scientists and engineers and even managed to reconstruct at least one rocket with the remaining spare parts the US had no interest in and shipped them and basically every remaining screw to Russia and started the Soviet rocket development program. The Soviets were able to achieve this faster, because the engineers the US ignored were actually more important to actually build a rocket than the top scientists the US took. The Allies basically sold the rocket technology to the Soviets and made it possible for them to win the space race. A strategical mistake, even though Berlin was also very important, I have to admit.

[@richardelliott9511]

@@dnocturn84 thanks for the additional info.

[@CaptainKillroy]

Alternative History is a channel that I really like and I'm happy you are reacting to it.

[@stefanprodanov9443]

Is it just me but i enjoy more watching your reaction than the original video

[@NiwatiX]

"We have near 50k subscribers now" Nah one month later? you're near 75k, congrats man, knowledge, wisdom, positivity, and being a nice person that's you 100%. You're passionate about history, and here on KZbin, you have the opportunity to share your passion with people that wants to listen and share with you. Being a teacher at school is very difficult because some of the students don't want to be there, and eventually, you don't want to be there either right. I remember at 15 years old, I didn't want to listen to my history teacher, I was not there yet in my life, so rediscovering history on your channel as an adult now is fantastic. Thank you very much for your amazing energy and sharing your passion

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

Appreciate it, Jay! Thanks for being a part of this community.

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[@Linesweeper]

If you're still looking for the next extra history series to check out I'd suggest the great northern war. It's not the most historically accurate series they've done but it's one of those weird times when two people who would be considered "the great" actually clash. Almost as if someone said "what if Fredrik the great fought Napoleon" kinda scenario.

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[@ResistTheGreatReplacementEU]

@@kh7736 Stfu, France has had an extremely successful military history. Just because they surrendered in ww2 doesn’t mean they always surrendered.

[@Eastcyning]

@@ResistTheGreatReplacementEU At the battle of Bir Hakeim, Rommel got his ass handed to him by the French strategically, so even in WW2 the French had a good record

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[@VloggingThroughHistory]

Much appreciated, thank you!

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[@aj2k08]

Nice reaction and commentary again. looking forward to part 2

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[@EdVonPelt]

There was a big naval clash just like you described it. The battel of Jutland, a tactical German victory, but a major strategic loss since they couldn't replace losses as quickly (or repair them).

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

Yes I know about Jutland. I was referring to the October 1918 order to force another such engagement

[@nunogarces1628]

What if scenarios are always interesting but with a lot of small left/right turns to make them unpredictable. Gives you a lot of branches to possible outcomes. Great reaction as always 👍

[@morrogin5986]

the part at the start where you wonder why the germans focused on sub-building rather than assault the RN can be answered quite simply. they did. the issue was that the sum total of the High Seas Fleet was only about 100 ships of all types. take the battle of Jutland for example. the germans had 16 battleships (22 counting pre-dreadnought) and 5 battlecruisers....whereas the grand fleet had 28 battleships and 9 battlecruisers. there was no way the Germans would win a direct engagement like that

[@nicolasmalloire9561]

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[@thephenome1462]

First off, I'll just say - it's so awesome to see you do a "what if" scenario reaction, these kinds of things are always fun to think about, and it's great that we can get your properly educated opinion on such a topic. Now, I wanted to say that the map on the Eastern side was a bit inaccurate (I know this is really minor, but since I live in Latvia, I have to mention this), since it shows the border along the front that the Germans and Russians were holding from late 1915 to late 1917, on the river Daugava, with a major point of contention being our capital city of Riga at the coast. In early 1918, when peace treaty negotiations between the Russians and the Central Powers had stalled for a while, the Germans actually started advancing again, taking over the remaining territory of Lithuania and Latvia, and subsequently occupying Estonia as well. Seeing the tempo of the German advance, the Communist government then had no choice but to cede to German demands, otherwise they would risk losing actual Russian territory. So the point of all this is - on that map in the video, you could move the border line in the north over to the right by about a centimetre or so. The other thing is more of a separate "what if" (and I haven't seen this series, so I don't know what topics the author covers) - what would happen in Spain after WW1, would it spiral into civil war, or would there be a separate path that they would take, one that wouldn't lead to division and what seems to be permanent friction among the ethnic groups in the country. Also, what would happen with the Ottomans? They would probably be able to keep their gains from Russia, that they got in the peace treaty, but if Britain would go to war with the Central Powers, would the Turks be able to hold on to their southern holdings, or would the British still help the Arabs drive them out? And would that in turn result in a possible Arab state in the early 20th century, friendly to the British, instead of leaving the Arabs resentful and distrustful of the West? Ugh, this seems like a rabbit hole that is way too deep, once you really get into it...

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[@angaudlinn]

"I'm France..." - what a way to make sure you get your ass kicked in one way or another. ;)

[@AkatsukiBoss13]

If you like this, you should look up Kaiserreich, an alternate history mod for HoI4 where the Central Powers won WWI. Not only has AHH done a video on the general history of the setting but the Kaiserreich team has been slowly putting out a history series on the events that led to the World of Kaiserreich.

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[@tonyhenthorn3966]

5:30 Germany didn't even need to invade France. Germany could have fought a defensive war on its western border and repeatedly stressed a desire for peace with the French people. The Kaiser could even have offered to buy Alsace Lorraine from France, or trade it for German colonies in Africa. The French army would have eventually mutinied after one too many suicidal offensives, just like it did in our timeline. Except this mutiny would have been severe enough to knock France out of the war, because every rank and file Frenchman in the trenches would know the Germans weren't trying to take over France and their country was not in any danger. Once peace was made with France, and with the Britain never having joined the war, Germany could then have achieved the total domination of Europe all the way to the Urals that the Nazis attempted a generation later. Except the Kaiser and his cronies wouldn't have put millions of people in gas chambers...

[@AhJeezEnt]

You should react to the Harry Turtledove Southern Victory Series, AHH and Emperor Tigerstar collaborated for a 4pt video on it

[@Isosocold]

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[@mallc8874]

Whatifalthist is a Great Channel on alt history and on geopolitics and history

[@AhJeezEnt]

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[@mohdadeeb1829]

Hey Chris! If you are reading this, I would say it would NOT stop World War 2. In CP victory timeline, World War 2 would still be fought in asia. Japan Only lost 5,000 people in the war and it still won the war, but even Japan was devastated during World War one and Japan did invade China before Germans intervined. So WW2 would still happen but it would be an Asian one.

[@jvalcor5649]

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[@justinzak5025]

Always appreciate Southern Kevin Spacey's historical analysis.

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

Southern Kevin Spacey? He's from New Jersey and I'm from Ohio. Who's southern?

[@jamescarton1788]

Allied fleet was literally just the Roya navies grand fleet, but tbh the grand fleet almost had a 2 to 1 dreadnaught advantage so I don't see germany winning a naval battle.

[@rickyjohnbaldoque8433]

Alternate History Hubs content are really worth it to watch. It makes you thinks of all the possibilities and appreciate what we currently have-generally speaking of course.

[@TheM3nt0ss]

As a little side note there is a fantastic mod for Hearts of Iron 4 called Kaiserreich which changed the whole game into a timeline where the central powers won ww1 and its amazing how everything is changed in that game.

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[@artembentsionov]

The Destroyermen series eventually has an encounter with people from an alternate world where communism and socialism were crushed quickly in Russia, resulting in them springing up in other European countries. In response, those nations became more fascist. US stayed out of WWI, the 1917 revolutions in Russia never happened, and Nicholas II kept his throne. France, Spain, and Italy formed the Confederation of Sovereign States, a fascist alliance opposed to Britain, US, and Russia. They later admit Germany but as a junior member. During their version of WWII, a large Confederate fleet is sent to take British Egypt, but it ends up being transported to the world where the series takes place along with the city of Tripoli. The fleet consists of two dozen battleships and many more smaller warships, making the new League of Tripoli the strongest naval power

[@Qwarzz]

The bastards!

[@11mousa]

Regarding the naval blockade in this alternate scenario: I don't think Germany would really care that much about any naval blockade. What I think would happen: Germany would (directly and indirectly through their puppets in eastern Europe) make sure that a now friendly Tsar sits on the throne in Russia, instead of the Red revolution. Thus, they'd have access to all the crops and industry from Eastern Europe, plus all the Oil from the Caucassus and Romania without having to use sea-routes (they even could trade with the far east and China through land routes). That was the big problem with the blockade in our timeline: Russia was only kicked out of the war after over three years of meatgrinding with lack of ressources on both fronts plus Russia in a civil war without the power to effectively get a side on their side. Now let's say they beat Russia by 1916, sign Brest Litowsk, get all the oil, food and industry they need from Western Russia and the Caucassus, and then throw out France. Now they are fully capable to sustain a long cold war. Plus, while the UK couldn't do anything crazy harming to Germany, the Germans themselves could massively harm the UK through their colonies. A few raids in the middle east through the Ottoman Empire, an attack on Suez, etc., and Brittain starts to starve, while Germany can in a few years time build a navy that can match the British royal navy.

[@Borrelaas]

10:10 The peace following the franco prussian war was far more lenient then the treaty of versailles.. The comparison is silly.. After ww1 they litterally divided Germany in two. They occupied ruhr for a decade. they destroyed germany and its army and navy.. How can you say the franco prussian war was similarly harsh is just false..

[@Nerd_of_Anarchy]

8:10 'British naval...Germany land...' According to a quote from the 1st part of Hardcore History, a German General was asked what if the British landed troops, he said something like, the police will arrest them.

[@cheeseninja1115]

If your looking into alternate history of WW1 I would highly recommend Kaiserreich as it has a lot of detailed events that has Germany win but due to different circumstances with videos to react to and is also a HOI4 mod that you could play ;)

[@macugino]

Are you forgetting the battle of Jutland? That was the biggest capital ship battle of WW I fought in 1916.

[@Demba8]

Hey loving this! since you reacted to Extra History's Otto Von Bismarck, I would recommend that you also react to the same channels video series about Genghis Khan. It's awesome, and it has a lot of stuff to comment on. Cheers!

[@fredsanford5954]

Trying to break the naval blockade with the surface fleet was tried- it resulted in the Battle of Jutland. As the NY Times summarized that battle: "The German navy assaulted it's jailer, but it's still in jail."

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

Yeah but I was specifically referring to the late war decision to do it again en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_order_of_24_October_1918

[@frogmann9540]

@@VloggingThroughHistory This scenario of the High seas Fleet sailing out in 1918 has been wargamed multiple times by the excellent naval history KZbinr Drachinefel and his findings are presented narratively in his video "The last ride of the high seas - Battle of Texel 1918". I personally believe that it would have been impossible for the High Seas fleet to engage in a decisive battle to break the blockade. This is due to two main reason: The number disparity between the two fleets, as well as the advantage the British fleet had in terms of signal intelligence which would allow them to know when the High Seas Fleet had left port in force. This coupled with the German use of worse quality coal leading to a speed reduction in their fleet would have meant that the British Fleet would always been able to engage the Germans with a significant numbers advantage.

[@andywomack3414]

My response to the response: 3:00 I wait to hear the word "Jutland," one of the most significant naval battles of all time, the last that relied on capital ships seeing each other. Now, if Beatty had ultimate command instead of Jellico, ...that could be the basis for an alternate history.

[@Nerd_of_Anarchy]

9:00 you discuss a blockade of Germany, but now that blockade would need to extend from the Danish Straits to a lot more places.

[@hotshot590]

You should do this channel’s coverage of the lore for the Kaiserreich mod for HOI4!

[@christopherrousseau1173]

In 1914, Germany was 50 miles from Paris with no army between them, but they stopped because they had rushed and passed up their flanking army. It was a communication mistake that stopped them from defeating France quickly.

[@creatoruser736]

Germany did try to send their fleet out to break the blockade. That was the Battle of Jutland. It didn't work for them. And Britain didn't save France in 1914. The Schlieffen Plan was always going to fall short because they didn't have the logistics to sustain the advance, the infrastructure in northern France couldn't handle a rapid movement of that size, and Belgian and French resistance slowed them down. They were stopped outside Paris by French reinforcements, not because the British showed up.

[@abdullahahmad2012]

Hey VTH. Can you do videos about earlier history? Say before 1600 in Europe and Asia? Would love to see it

[@angaudlinn]

With no WWII my home turf (Sweden) wouldn't be what it is today. Staying "neutral" and shipping steel to all sides of a conflict is a great way to build an economy... :-o

[@ryanm.2930]

Alternate history topics are by far one of my favorite subjects in history, because just thinking about it, what really would happen if the other side won

[@ahmadibrahim8779]

This. This is content.

[@198404alex]

They did send their fleet out in 1916 not near the end of the war and they engaged the British fleet it was called the Battle of Jutland whilst both sides lost about 11 ships arguably the Germans won sinking 3 British battlecruisers for the loss of only one of their own

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

I wasn’t referring to the battle of Jutland. There was an order given to the German fleet a couple weeks before the end of the war and that’s what I’m talking about

[@TheKingofbrooklin]

@@VloggingThroughHistory You made it sound like the german fleet did nothing but sending submarines till the end of the war and if they did that earlier that would have oppened maybe their economy more. They tried exactly that during Jutland and tried other engagements on favourible terms during the war.

[@TheAlphatitan]

This guy went from having nearly 50k in March to 157k in 3 months! Also I feel like the Germans could just turn to the east in terms of trading and supplies so the brits would be helpless and would be throwing sand at a wall of bricks.

[@brockgeorge777]

Honestly there’s hard to find scenarios where the *overall* result going forward does not appear to be likely better with a Central Powers win. For sure, WWII never happens when it does, as it does in that case.

[@JeanValjean875]

I mean, Germany did win on the Eastern front. They just had the bad luck of fighting a two front war and losing on the Western front.

[@cringebrudi]

Some british historians believe that if the britts didn't intervene in this European conflict, that the German empire would have defeated the French and the Russians. The German empire wanted to make a European trade realm with France and other European countries. But British Generals said that they wouldn't been save from Germany if they defeated the French. Which was a stupid concern, because the Germans couldn't rival the high seas fleat.

[@ernestchoi4464]

The Germans did send their High Seas Fleet out, in the Battle of Jutland. Blew up a bunch of British ships, especially HMS Queen Mary. That thing got blew up like the HMS Hood. Then in August 1916, Scheer sends the High Seas Fleet again to draw the British out which the British did. But what does the German do, tuck tail and sail right back to port.

[@TechBros]

You should react to the "What if Germany Won WW1? - Kaiserreich Universe Documentary" by the kaiserreich team. Its a great video about the alternate history lore in this universe!

[@caz5021]

Chris you're very quickly becoming my favorite KZbinr!

[@britishjack6901]

2:59 the battle of Jutland the second largest naval battle in history god America’s Man ( it was a draw Britain lost more but Germany was scared after so never sent its fleet out again)

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

I wasn't talking about Jutland. I was talking about an order given in October 1918, late in the war, for what would have been a suicide mission by the German fleet. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_order_of_24_October_1918

[@steveclarke6257]

Germany tried to sortee the HSF, but the RN was far to powerful in terms of the sheer number of ships, Jutland was a tactical victory (because of the incompetence of David Beattie) and a strategic loss in that they failed to cause sufficient damage to the RN strangle hold.

[@DERP_Squad]

I would say that it was a tactical draw, and a strategic loss for the HSF. Even with the losses at Jutland, the Royal Navy was still vastly more powerful than the HSF. Further, Scheer was forced to retreat back to Germany, and only through a combination of luck and the fog of war were they able to make it back to Germany at all. Yes, Beatty made a lot of mistakes, and Jutland could have been a massive Royal Navy victory, but the HSF not getting utterly destroyed doesn't make the battle in a tactical victory for the HSF.

[@Glitsch99]

Speaking as a germane here, considering the alternate-timeline here as given, I think France, seeing there post revolution country failing time after time, would have split up into 2-4 of the following 1.German annexd: Elsas-Lorain and maybe more 2. central and western France "devolving" into a monarchies 3. old English lands staying a republic but also keeping close ties to England and the Be-Ne-Lux 4. southern and more Latin influenced France becoming friends of Italy and or Spain these may have been just short term divide like white and red Russia but it also might be final like Austro-Hungarian Maybe you could react to the scenario of "Whatifalthist" with the same question as a kind of comparison to this one. I personally find his version to be more likely. Also I became a big fan over the last few days and cant wait to become an active part of the community as well. Have a nice day everyone :D

[@hank780]

You are becoming a great youtuber. Tied with mr terry. A bit off topic: you heard of Vasili Arkhipov and Stanislav Petrov? If not, look them up, and be thankful for them

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

Thank you. I haven't but I'll check them out.

[@hank780]

@@VloggingThroughHistory they basically prevented all out nuclear war. There is a 2014 film about Petrov, the Man Who Saved the World

[@jakubbartak3652]

hey you could try reacting to kings and generals

[@codyhagerman8696]

Love the Vids @VloggingThroughHistory

[@maxpayne7459]

Reversed Schliefen Plan? Like in your hoi 4 Match?

[@Akel144]

I'm late to the party but the Belgian Army resistance slow the german army significally (IIRC they thought to cross Belgium in couples of weeks, like 2, and it took them like more than 6, i really can't recall the numbers but i recall it took them much longer than anticipated) and then the BEF was the nail to the coffin to the german plan. Still, very intresting video :)

[@dualplay5956]

the german high seas fleet did fight the british in a major battle, the battle of jutland

[@ryleeroseborough7885]

It would be interesting to see how American-German relations would be. There was a HUGE german population in the US, and to this day German is the single largest European ancestery. It's possible America would distance relations from Britain and shift towards Germany since they would be the dominant force in Europe. It is probably more probable that America would further it's isolationist attitudes, possibly into the 21st century.

[@chrisigoeb]

I think die Hochseeflotte could have beaten the Grand Fleet. German ships used more modern guns and had much better accuracy. Thats why the battle of jutland was basically a german victory

[@blixacauli8786]

This guy is great!

[@tomasbillian4907]

The German fleet never had the ability to break the blockade. The battle of Jutland proved that.

[@imperialinquisitormordecai9688]

You said that you are playing HOI4 but have you ever player with the Kaiserreich mod? It's the most well developed mod and has very deep world built upon this very idea. Also, this channel already has a video called "The World of Kaiserrech" which would be fun to see you react to + a good video too watch regardless if you're interested in the mod as the world might be a bit confussing otherwise

[@felipeviana2351]

After seeing this video I got really curious about your thoughts on The Man In The High Castle

[@mrjj2819]

One thing the video forgot to mention was that Russians are allied with the winter

[@symtrick4782]

In 1914 germany almost got to paris but where stopped by the marne

[@lukedavies2406]

Man how are war declarations and treaties even done? Does the leader just say "yo fetch me the US presidents mobile man" "hey yeah my country is declaring war on yours alright bye"

[@TEM7007]

I had no idea you're HGG, I thought i recognized that voice

[@adrians2521]

On stream we had 400+ ppl my dude

[@photoisca7386]

Quotation from video: " the Germans wanted an economic union..." sounds familiar. Germans now control all the top jobs in the E.U and prior to Brexit were working towards concentrating financial services and banking in Frankfurt.

[@darrellmarcks6304]

I'm only a week into viewing your content but have you ever reacted to any CGP Greys videos? He has some great stuff you might be able to cover.

[@panther7748]

There wasn't really a chance for the German High Seas Fleet to break the British Blockade, which became clear after the Battle of Jutland. The British Grand Fleet would've defeated them. This last operation was only a suicide mission to "save the honour of the german navy".

[@walterwhite8564]

If you don't already know, Call of Duty made a very realistic ww2 game where you can play in first person, iconic missions such as D-Day and the liberation of France I highly recommend that you do a reaction series to "COD WW2". As always, this was a brilliant video, keep up the great work

[@walterwhite8564]

Also, a reaction series to Battlefield 1 (A similar game but for WW1) would also be great!

[@langeweileonline4720]

Fun fakt: the german kaiser didn't thought austria would declare war cause serbia said ok to nearly the whole ultimtum but no to one single point

[@Number1Rival]

Monsieur Z made a couple videos on this alternate take of World War 1 and even discussed what the future of the world would look like.