WHAT IF GOKU WENT TO KING KAI'S EARLY? - MOVIE

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[@MajorDragon]

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[@teezy786]

King Kai actually knew Instant Transmission. I remember him mentioning it much later in the series.

[@MajorDragon]

Plot hole lmaooo

[@teezy786]

@@MajorDragon yeah it was so weird when they gave him that. Like why on earth wouldn't he have used it to get Goku back to earth in time to fight the Saiyans? He doesn't need to have it so it's double weird.

[@daytonakings3885]

When

[@teezy786]

@@daytonakings3885 I think it was when Goku used it to go get Dende from New Namek to make him Earths new Kami.

[@richardjones-ee3qs]

Yeah I remember when I had dinner round his house and I had forgotten my door keys so he teleported me back into my house. Fcking legend of a bloke!

[@2148532590]

Dr. Gero didn't know about super sayin in the main time line since he stopped collecting information about goku around the sayin saga. That's why he was surprised at the transformation. So it would make sense that androids here dwarfed the main continuity ones.

[@FwAnimated12]

Bro made them 150,000x stronger than the goku he collected data on

[@FwAnimated12]

💀

[@valtyt2670]

Not true. He was collecting data on them during the 3 Yr training time skip

[@xsimox13]

I still think trunks as in canon would show ssj transformation to goku so this point of not knowing wouldn’t be relevant. Trunks wanted to gauge goku’s power and I don’t think he would just show up without a friendly sparing

[@triden1172]

Major Plothole: The souls of those killed by Demon King Piccolo and his spawn cannot move on to the afterlife, but are cursed to suffer eternally in limbo. Kriilin, Chaotsu, Roshi, and the others only escaped this fate because they were brought back to life. Kami was surprised that the souls of Goku and Raditz made it to the afterlife at all, and took this as evidence that Piccolo jr was much less evil than his father.

[@dois_dee]

But in this scenario Goku didn't die by King Piccolo Hands directly, it was a consequence of the battle

[@kazeguy8869]

Another major pothole: Earth Dragon Balls before Dende cannot wish someone back after they have been dead for a year. So if Goku refused to be revived for 3 years he would begone forever

[@dois_dee]

@@kazeguy8869 But he was dead for about 3 days, not thee years, right?

[@kazeguy8869]

@@dois_dee No, he was dead for 3 years. In the story Goku isn't revived until the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai which is 3 years after King Piccolo, further evidence of this, is Goku still being the same age physically as when he beat King Piccolo

[@DaimeneX]

@@kazeguy8869 I figure the plot holes can be explained this way 1. He defeated Demon King Piccolo and passed away from his injuries. Since he didn't die from a direct attack, and he actually defeated the demon, it could be argued that he broke the curse. 2. idk maybe Kami decided to not be a useless Namekian and upgraded the dragon balls temporarily just for Goku, lol Both of these are far fetched as hell, I know ;P

[@Soviet_unioniscoming]

when he said over 20000 i was about to spam stfu because it was 18000 for vegeta but he rick rolled me

[@rafaelferreira7408]

3:15 Goku couldn't stay 3 years there unless they decided to keep him permanently dead, the dragon balls at that time could only revive people who were dead for 1 year max, so either they revived him right away and he stayed there training or else Goku would be permanently dead and stuck in the the Other World, and that's probably what would've happened because nobody would knew about this rule, only Kami knew about it, Kami should be to introduce himself to Goku and later the one ask Popo to collect the dragonballs and wish Goku back right away, he stays there training with King Kai and after 3 years he returns to Earth.

[@alexgreer6336]

Well plot and also Kami could upgrade the dragonballs

[@boti7337]

They could have revived him within a year then he just stayed on king kais

[@switchjayfuckities4199]

The line you're referring to was referring to everyone the Saiyans killed and only those within the last year being able to be revived, they've killed many people and planets. One person specifically would probably not be restricteed by any time period.

[@stefanwheatley2965]

Haha how long was freezer died before super

[@Redneck_4wheelers]

Daaaaaaaaaammmmmmnnnnn bro really a super nerd

[@snyderryan1]

Guru could unlock potential, with a 7.34 times multiplier of original power but only once in a lifetime. And Goku always had high potential. Krillan was 1,772, and after potential unlock was 13,000. Gohan was 1,800 after potential unlock 14,000. Now, in this situation. Goku is at 80,000 after potential unlock 587,200 Raditz is at 40,000 after potential unlock 293,600

[@bamboozledpotat]

Where in the fuck did you find those number

[@kintouzumaki9306]

Wow that's a boost

[@5stargrim]

Not only is this hilariously confident, it's wrong. There is no specific multiplier, it depends on the booster and boostee, and they effect every individual differently. And no, there is never, literally ever from any source, any Implications or statements that say it can only happen once a lifetime. Gohan literally goes through it twice before the end of z, the opposite is proven true. And finally, those power levels are absurdly far off. If any sources are to be taken seriously, each of them was around 1800-2000 power level before and around 20k after. Your statement would make them absurdly weak for the namek arc, and Gohan and Krillin specifically state that they're stronger than Vegeta when he appeared on earth, at 18k. Also it barely makes sense that they were boxing the Ginyu force to begin with, nerf them that hard and it would make zero sense. A 13k power level would get annihilated against recooome with zero resistance.

[@kagenoyami2796]

@@5stargrim bruh, why you dick riding him

[@UNTRUMPROLL]

​@@bamboozledpotatYour reply got hidden... Lol.

[@DeMarcoco]

i like the way you describe aspects of dragon ball in depth! very fun video

[@MajorDragon]

Thanks!

[@timhirth2924]

What an amazing part. I hope you continue this series with more parts to it

[@MajorDragon]

Sadly no I was going to but I didn't want to make a vid and it do bad after not doing the series for a few weeks so why mess with perfection im happy where it left off! most events would end the same!

[@darknessking2859]

Since Goku originally thought about gravity training after training with king Kai. Wouldn't it make sense that sends Goku trained early with kenkai he would also ask boma about gravity training. Also Goku got his tail removed because of kami. So when he also have his tail. In this timeline. Theoretically since Goku was in the afterlife most still having his tail you would also have the opportunity to train to gain control of his great ape corn and use it for a force of good. Because you said it was rare that's and end up being good not seen as impossible. Meaning there are bound to be some good sayings that have tails. With the ability to control they're great ape form who could teach goku.

[@Eevee860]

The destructo disk can cut through literally everything, cell doesn't even stop it in the manga it slices him in half, buu is sliced in half by it too, it's been officially stated it cuts through everyone and everything no exception, its super busted

[@notthegreenranger3726]

Won't cut through Jiren tho

[@overhaul-2428]

NOW ILL SHOW YOU THE POWER OF KAOIKIN

[@cedricksmith286]

KAOIKIN X10

[@Bey_cube]

No

[@N7Commandershep]

Kaio-what?

[@Ketheral]

@@N7Commandershep Kaio-No according to @Slick_gogeta

[@robinscheyving4878]

Excuse me kaio-wh-- shiiiittttttt

[@silent2425]

Thank you so much for all the content you make my good man. Could we have one with “Goku having frieza’s potential” in the future?

[@MajorDragon]

I already have

[@silent2425]

@@MajorDragon really? damn i cant find it XD

[@rando339]

Basically he would be stronger than Zeno by Namek saga

[@yahyaahmed977]

​@@rando339lol xd

[@dragonfyre79]

20:15 ngl, I love that design for Raditz

[@Cdog300]

I’ve been looking for a story like this forever! Thank you for providing my entertainment 😊

[@joshakins1551]

I remember suggesting this on another what if channel. I'm glad to see it actually made

[@Djbeenbroke]

This actually a crazy interesting topic looking forward to this one

[@MajorDragon]

Thanks!

[@zippo_maxx4403]

Pretty sure the zenkai boost is the same no matter how strong the person is who damaged them. doesn't matter that goku and raditz were stronger, it would have been the same amount. all that matters is that they're at death's door.

[@ONKINGDAVID]

That’s where your wrong

[@Noininioninooknioni]

​@@ONKINGDAVIDExplain? In the namek saga Vegeta got purposely hurt by killin and still got a zenkai. You can't just say "you're wrong" without justifying anything cause that shows how little you understand the topic

[@tinotendajeremiah2515]

Good movie 😊👍👍👍😘👍

[@MajorDragon]

Thank!

[@sylphidstriker6909]

Man was a menace here

[@brasenwollert2455]

Take this….root beer float Kamehame ha!!!!! 😂

[@Djbeenbroke]

The idea of king yema being nicer makes since as in z he often complain about things someone getting old would so him being much younger here makes a lot of sense for him to do this

[@5arekords276]

260*18=4720 and thats 5 months/3years (already Nappa level) . Now 260 *129=33 540(I didnt count it , he said its 129 Imma just trust it) Its over Zarbon ugly form level not much just a little bit . Bro piccolo jr must have been terrified as shit

[@maritimesteak8540]

dr gero never even knew about super saiyan yet the androiods were still broken so they would likely be stronger considering he went offthis versions saiyan saga because he never got more in depth past the saiyan saga he only got samples of dna after that

[@kurtheemuseacorpse9427]

What if Goku stayed dead and on Grand Kai's planet with the otherworld fighters after The Cell Games? And then have a sequel series almost completely set in that part of the afterlife and all Goku's friends and family are there with him. Of course there would still be villains for him to fight but they would not be from the world of the living mortals. Could this work? Would it be any good?

[@thereeceforbes]

So frieza also has good kei control since he did the same to bardock and blew up the plannet with a small kei blast which got massive

[@ithinkmynameisvincentvango6726]

Of course, of course. Of course of course, of course of course of course.

[@97Kakarot97]

I liked everything about this except for the open ending aha

[@mistabighead2504]

I like you what you did with raditz because I think if the power difference is high enough raditz probably would have let his cowardice take over

[@Eevee860]

Cell is part goku, 16 wants to kill him, it's within his mission parameters

[@robinscheyving4878]

😂

[@spacehunternebulanm7003]

Piccolo Daimao is a demon, though, and whoever is killed by a demon does not go to an afterlife according to Roshi (though obviously those killed by demons can still be revived judging by the fact he and Krillin were revived with the Dragon Balls.) so how does Goku get to go to the afterlife?

[@Antoniodagreat]

The androids in the future were not weaker …they just toyed around with gohan and trunks out of boredom they were only using less than 50% of their power

[@MajorDragon]

No it was stated there weaker then the other counterparts by trunks and the story as well because the z-fighters are stronger in that timeline

[@istealtoast2089]

The androids in the future were much weaker than than the current timeline androids I'd recommend watching a video by Saiyan scholar called all power levels after namek

[@XanthosAcanthus]

I feel like goku and co would train with king Kai or in the other world during the trip to namek since goku has instant transmission. No need to stay on the ship.

[@brandonthedford1285]

What if goku went with shin instead of king kai during the saiyan saga and getting ultimate goku early?

[@kurtheemuseacorpse9427]

What if a small piece of Majin Buu was injected into a heavily injured Broly to save his life?

[@r.k3618]

Bro what?

[@He-Who-Died]

@@r.k3618 . It would probably be cool. Imagine that pink Broly bubble gum monster with crazy regeneration.

[@r.k3618]

@@He-Who-Diedit would be cool but it would be like 3 min long only arcs to cover are moro and granola.

[@He-Who-Died]

@@r.k3618 . Yeah this Majin Bruuly would kill all the villains in one attack even while trying to let them live.

[@chrisdash5917]

Awesome Movie 😊😊

[@MajorDragon]

Thanks

[@chrisdash5917]

@@MajorDragon You’re Welcome

[@23GreyFox]

Wasn't there a time limit of one year to revive someone with the OG Dragon Balls?

[@timcirulis5273]

Have you seen the energy of a kid? Kid Goku would have made it down Snake Way in half the time. Lol

[@sergioalejandrobricenostap9016]

Not really sure that’s how power boosts in training work. Remember, after the Cell Games, Goku was probably roughly half of Gohan’s power before Sj2. Gohan stopped training and just got back to form a couple of months before the tournament for which Goku got back for just a day. But if for every 6 months that Goku spends at King Kai training he grows at a rate of x18 like you said, then after 7 years he would be as strong as = (Gohan/2)*18^7. So over 300M times stronger than Gohan. I’m pretty sure that doing exactly the same training yields detrimental results. All things considered, Goku should be somewhere around 12K max by the time Raditz arrives, even if he trains with Popo for 3 years. And considering Raditz would look like a weakling to him, I don’t think he would take the training in the following year as seriously (he didn’t for 5 years so that’s in his character). Because of that and also because he would have no training partner at his level, you can’t give him the Saiyan saga kami training x5 boost either. So best case scenario, he is twice as powerful as Vegeta by the time he gets to Earth and hopefully has mastered kaioken to x20 as well.

[@salazarcosplay]

Goku doesn't have to die. Baba can take him to the check in station he can take senzu beans or a capsule with food

[@Bltck]

In movies, you should do timestamps

[@animixgamer7894]

I’ve never seen a what if scenario where they use the cloning technique from the yardrats….

[@rutgerbauer4345]

Nice what-if! Glad you didn't do cringy voice acting for the characters! The only thing missing is Goku & Raditz being betrayed and locked in the Time Chamber! 😂😂😂

[@MajorDragon]

Thanks!

[@jamardurrant4487]

We just watched a kid goku life getting explain stuff for 1 hour

[@natepace8600]

I need my next part

[@skeletonlover3214]

Very cool story

[@chickenpotpieare3things]

1:01:15 wait how does he just get that big of a zenkai again? He got that before because he almost died and got revived in the healing pod, how did he this time?

[@genericwhitemale9566]

2:20 actually Raditz Fight Goku would be a lot more than 1.6X stronger than the Goku who fought Demon King Piccolo. OG Dragon Ball power levels aren't linear like they are in the late Saiyan Saga. A power level of 5 is basically an average human but Pilaf Saga Goku with a power level of 10 was capable of knocking down large buildings and jumping very high into the air which is obviously far more than a 2X increase to an average human. Roshi with a power level in the high 100s had to pour all of his energy into his max power form AND use a Kamehameha which is another multiplier on top of his max power to destroy the moon while Goku in the 23rd tournament is stated in the guides to be a casual moon buster and Piccolo a little after the Raditz fight could do it with one hand despite only being 3X stronger than that Roshi. Power levels only become linear around the 8,000 mark as Goku using Kaioken X2 which is stated to actually increase your strength and speed by 2 also doubles your power level.

[@josephsaguru1788]

King kai knows instant transmission

[@5STARLL15]

Cell would still be the same strength because he's from a different time line

[@hectorbarreto4143]

Why did you end this what if?

[@pain5824]

Could you possibly do what if goku was sent to beerus planet or the omni kings planet

[@christianrc6485]

I never understood Dr Gero “making” the androids stronger just because he knew something , Didn’t he made them as strong as possible already?

[@MajorDragon]

No they can be made stronger as with the future androids trunks stated the current ones are much stronger then the ones from his timeline so yes they can be made stronger

[@genericwhitemale9566]

@@MajorDragon that doesn't even make any sense. His spy robot for the Androids got destroyed during the Saiyan attack. It was the Cell robot that saw SSJ Trunks (which also doesn't make sense because Cell came from the future where Trunks never showed up so how would he know about Trunks killing Frieza?) kill Frieza. Gero never even saw the Super Saiyan form until Goku showed it him during their fight. Why would he make the Androids randomly stronger?

[@robertdonnelly2769]

Sorry but don't forget two things happened to goku on the way to King kai's 1 he was distracted by that queen on snake way & 2 he fell off and had to start at the beginning again although I don't know how much time was wasted because of this I think that he may have got there a little quicker than what you mentioned

[@BackAfter2Years]

He ate the fruit to double his strength to get back

[@rutgerbauer4345]

And those scenes were filler anyway

[@itousatha5359]

8:15 You're wrong,as Goku train more there hell experience diminishing gains like now Goku doesn't get as strong on king kais world,it would prob be 21x in the first six months,then it'll decrease to 18x then 14x then 7x then 5x then 2x then it'll become 1.5x his normal boost So Year one(over all:39x) First six months:21x Second six months:18x Year two(over all:21x) First six months:14x Second six months:7x Year three(over all:8.5x) First 4 months:5x Second 4 months:2x Third 4 months:1.5x So over all he'll get almost 69 times stronger(I promise this is accidental)or a power level of 11040(not too shabby huh)

[@MajorDragon]

It’s a what if

[@FFgamesftw]

One minor thing and I know nobody wants to think of this but having the time shifted by 3 years of when goku & chichi conceived Gohan would not only change his age but we’d get an entirely different character who is also named Gohan (assuming their first child is still male)

[@r.k3618]

Even a second difference would result in different offspring because how sperms works so people tend to ignore that in what ifs

[@istealtoast2089]

​@@r.k3618it makes the story much harder to come up with because then gohan would become and entirely new character and it's much harder to do that than it is to just make gohan a canon event that is unchanged

[@kalielzx]

i really have been thinking about Gohan...beeing born earlier, made his life more depressing? like, he wouldn't meet videl, so no reason for the babidi guys fight her, so if they tried to steal it from them, they would fail, goku WOULD and COULD help it out, Radiz and Vegeta aswell, so no buu, battle of gods still happens (thanks to Radiz) BUT STILL, no beast form, aswell as no super hero movie, atleast Gohan wouldn't be the main character, idk why i though into it that much but...i wanted to share it out my thoughts

[@TonyAncom]

Why does this end in the cell saga???

[@MajorDragon]

Cause past that point not much changes

[@robinscheyving4878]

Actually it does since he can do kaikon for so much longer you could do fusing with super saiyan​@MajorDragon

[@Ke2time]

I love a good OP goku story

[@LRodz279]

Can you do a part 2 of what if Freiza got his black form early

[@sammasters2000]

Dragonballs had a 1 year time limit to come back then

[@goku1249]

The moon was never destroyed...piccolo doesn't know about oozaru from training gohan...not that it would make a difference aside from nappa transforming

[@MajorDragon]

Magic

[@amethystbhb6080]

Can you do Goku but Master Roshi died (maybe of old age or something)

[@stamina4days]

Bruh. Vegeta has soo much ego if future Vegeta came back into the Namek Saga and tell him "YOU WILL LITERALLY DIE." Younger Vegeta: "I control my own fate. I dont know you are, but you're certainly not me. I'll take care of Frieza first, then I'll be back for you." Future Vegeta: *rolls eyes and flies off to gather the Dragonballs.

[@chrishedricks308]

Super kiaoken is actually from a movie with lord Slug

[@akumanoza]

dr gero didnt know about super saiyan in canon to the androids was just that strong

[@montymont4192]

do you ever continue these movies ?

[@HaKoomy_]

In the original didn't they come because they heard of the dragonballs when raditz dies? In this one he's alive so they never have to discuss any dragonballs so is the reason them going to earth in a year is because raditz lost🤨

[@HaKoomy_]

Or maybe cause they wanna recruit goku after folding raditz idk 🤷🏾‍♂️ if my homie got folded I'm heading there instantly why take a year 😂

[@hydrainferno]

wouldn't you multiply the amount not the multiplier

[@hydrainferno]

and so his power lvl would be 54872, because 8001 - 416 = 7585, 36 months / 5 months = 7.2 , 7.2 x 7585 = 54612, his original power lvl was 260 , 260+ 54612 = 54872, if you did this instead of the multiplier his power lvl would be 54872 instead of 33696 when he fights piccolo jr in this what if

[@carterslade9252]

Hoping for a part 2 soon

[@Omnipulsar]

51:15 lmao

[@bantheundead4162]

So i thought if you are dead for longer than a year earths dragon balls couldn't bring you back 🤔

[@henningrrseth8139]

one year limit on the being dead on the old kami dragon balls

[@SKeTcH-DeSIgNN]

If we’re being realistic, there’s no way Goku would have been able to survive the 10x gravity on King Kai’s planet.

[@istealtoast2089]

As a kid he was able to survive a month in the time chamber that had 10× gravity and much worse conditions than king kai and if remember the reason he had to leave was because of his Sanity

[@AnimeGameboyz182]

nappa had a power lvl of 4000

[@macrosense]

Did Goku learn to fly at king Kai’s?

[@Bearburrable]

Why does some of your stories never the current arcs? Even the Cerelian Arc would be fine Just felt left out as how the stories never goes that far at least

[@MajorDragon]

As I do a video each one slowly drops in views and likes once a video drops badly I do not continue it

[@bakeebakeemwhitfield2368]

random comment...something to chew on...sooo piccolo got his potential unlocked by grand elder didnt he wish for that in the dragon ball super before turning to orange piccolo maybe the boost should be higher

[@TruTrae]

The wish version is similar to the elder kai's version, which means that the boost would not be the same if elder guru unlocked his potential.

[@kphoenix137]

So explain to me how staying in htc stops you from aging because you said hes 18 but his body is 15

[@MajorDragon]

Magic

[@christenorio81]

What if Ginyu unlocked bulma ki access

[@hassanhdieb3377]

Goku actually has a jutsu from Naruto called talk no jutsu that's why he can calm others

[@caboosebluevsred]

The whole "Promise to Chi Chi" still feels forced even after all this time and various what-ifs.

[@justinmisiuda48]

So I take it only being revived within 1 year and the dragon being destroyed is a non factor in this what if

[@Pet_Hedgehog]

man you tripping

[@JuanMartinez20522]

Will there be more videos on this seris

[@MajorDragon]

Yes

[@hydrainferno]

wait isn't super kaioken already a thing

[@Mobarakdj]

Hey at least raditz is good in this story

[@akumanoza]

isnt vegeta max in saiyan sage was 45k?? in the beam struggle against goku in the end??

[@robinscheyving4878]

No that's just a good feat for the gallicko hõ

[@blaisedunbar5097]

Pls do wat if piccolo igsorbs cell

[@Armaan-f7g]

Butterfly effect be like

[@robertdonnelly2769]

What if the earth had 10x gravity instead of 1xg

[@MajorDragon]

Everyone would be a lot stronger

[@robinscheyving4878]

Actually I would wanna see that

[@Vedrajrm]

You had a chance to make the video length 1:23:45

[@randycrawford1132]

Chi Chi isn’t 3 years older they are the same age

[@MajorDragon]

In this what if he died so he was gone for 3 years so chi chi is older then goku

[@thereeceforbes]

Dead people don't age

[@mr.walkerfragrance6308]

You kind of sound like Broku.

[@malikkings1202]

hasnt krillen died too couldnt he went with goku to king kai

[@luqmaandaniels9258]

Why do what if stories always try to keep raditz alive let him die

[@dontuspowerus1093]

Gohan having the same strength that he has in the original is outright Gohan bullcrap. That Cannon Gohan got his potential unlocked and got his neck broken by Reccome. Added to the fact that your Gohan was far too young to even let Chi-Chi to reconsider not to let him fight as that's like what? 5? 7? Years old Gohan. Gohan in cannon was forced to fight as a 5 years old kid. Screamed at his mom that he will go to namek to revive Piccolo, of whom he was feeling indebt to. This Gohan getting trained by the 3 stooges will not propell his power up to his cannon self as that guy has been through fire and flames to your Gohan's baby cradle teachings as his papi is there to take care of him. In short this is still innocent Gohan. The same Gohan that was afraid of dinosaurs, tigers, etc. Mama's boy, fledgeling, etc. Who would even dare teach a Kid Kaio Ken?

[@litro953]

Is gohan meeting video?

[@litro953]

Videl?*

[@IsmailaJohan]

❤🎉🎉😢

[@crismon0726]

kio what?