What if Haymitch had participated in the 75th Hunger Games?

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Story Diver

Story Diver

4 жыл бұрын

Hi fr iends! This week we take a look at how different the 3rd Quarter Quell would have been had Haymitch been in the arena!
Haymitch Abernathy had already participated in the 2nd Quarter Quell, and ran a very real risk of returning to the arena. However, Peeta joins Katniss for the 75th Hunger Games, leaving Haymitch as their mentor, and therefore able to coordinate with the rebels from District 13. So how different would these Games be had Haymitch and Peeta swapped places?
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@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Hi friends! A quick reminder not to post spoilers for "The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes". The book isn't out in many countries yet, and won't be for another few weeks, so it's incredibly inconsiderate. Also, many of you have been asking when I'll make videos about it. I won't be making videos about it until the movie adaptation is released, as this firstly gives everyone time to buy and read the book, and secondly will allow us to use the secondary canon that is a movie to base ideas off of. Thank you and happy bubbles!
@finnspoelstra4775
@finnspoelstra4775 4 жыл бұрын
oke
@hooverblox3804
@hooverblox3804 4 жыл бұрын
wow, you now have a whole new book to make videos about but out of compassion for your viewers you are holding off until the next movie is made - i really respect that, thanks for being so considerate however if you wanted too i'm sure you could make videos about specific topics in the new book with a clear title, spoiler warnings and ambiguous thumbnails, and then change the thumbnail and title after the movie is released? perhaps you didn't want too do it, which is fine too. regardless, i hope you like the new book!
@dankzgaming8613
@dankzgaming8613 4 жыл бұрын
Story Diver you should read the books they go into great detail ab how all three of them train and get into shape and I do believe hamich quits drinking so by u saying he would have been a bad choice for this is wrong but other words decent video keep up the good work- sorry for spelling I’m drunk 🥴.
@markdarmody2760
@markdarmody2760 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Haymich won the quarter quell then he be the first tribute to win two quarter quells Yes every other tribute will be famous because of winning two games but Haymich would win two games with big a twist
@Lior353
@Lior353 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Darmody yeh that would be cool
@baileytownsend9622
@baileytownsend9622 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that would be cool
@sophdixon8013
@sophdixon8013 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Darmody omg yes
@jjgarcia7593
@jjgarcia7593 3 жыл бұрын
a tribute can't win 2 games unless at least 1 is a quarter quell
@rex8329
@rex8329 3 жыл бұрын
@@jjgarcia7593 He meant any of the winners of the 75th Hunger Games would be extra famous, not every tribute....
@indie267
@indie267 4 жыл бұрын
Ok but just imagine Haymitch and Katniss in the tribute parade .......-.- Edit: Thanks for the likes guys 😃
@donnak8195
@donnak8195 4 жыл бұрын
Yea ಠ_ಠ
@chrisstez6327
@chrisstez6327 4 жыл бұрын
😆
@noelward7491
@noelward7491 4 жыл бұрын
It would be so funny and awkward
@indie267
@indie267 4 жыл бұрын
NOEL WARD yes
@abbyerickson8015
@abbyerickson8015 4 жыл бұрын
OOF
@Poppy-lq8ww
@Poppy-lq8ww 4 жыл бұрын
I think that Haymitch rather than being paralysed by his PTSD would become more determined and would turn his attention to keeping Katniss alive meaning he would have gone with her when they put the coil of wire in the beach and would’ve come to District 13 with her
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It's very possible!
@astrocat1016
@astrocat1016 4 жыл бұрын
But haymitch was swift footed so Beeta would let him go
@eamparbeng
@eamparbeng 4 жыл бұрын
In his original hunger games the second quarter quell, Haymitch was fast, agile, strong, skilled with a knife, and intelligent as he outsmarted one of the district 1 females that year with the forcefield+axe stunt that got his family and girlfriend killed because he made the Capitol look like idiots. Yeah Haymitch still retains that intelligence and possibly that dormant strength, but Katniss states that he's out of shape when the the three of them were training for the third quarter quell. And since Haymitch has been a drunkard for 25 years, how would that affect his performance in the arena? would that cause him to think irrationally? Alcohol withdrawal might be a major weakness for Haymitch, especially against the career tributes Cashmere, Gloss, Brutus and Enobaria. But he'd have the help of Katniss, Finnick, Johanna, who are skilled fighters and maybe Blight if he hadn't died by hitting the forcefield. And destroying the arena's forcefield would be major de ja vu for him because that forcefield was both a blessing and a curse for him 25 years earlier. But in the end, the rebel victors' plan would probably still come to pass
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense!
@ranvirgrewal316
@ranvirgrewal316 4 жыл бұрын
Haymitch probably trained for the games since there is no way he could be so skilled, fast, and agile with a knife
@eamparbeng
@eamparbeng 4 жыл бұрын
@@ranvirgrewal316 I agree with the fact that Haymitch secretly trained for the games prior to the second quarter quell. But another more likely reason why Haymitch was a formidable tribute is probably because he, like Katniss and Gale, illegally hunted in the woods outside of 12 to feed his mother and younger brother. Why wouldn't he when he's from the Seam like them and Seam people would do anything to get food? And all his exertion from trying to put food on the table earned Haymitch his fighting prowess just like how Katniss became a skilled archer from so much time in the woods as with Gale with his snares and overall resourcefulness. That's why even though Haymitch and Katniss weren't careers, they still possessed the fighting attributes of one. Cuz if Gale was reaped, he'd be a formidable opponent for even Cato to handle just like Thresh was and the careers would try to recruit Gale into their pack.
@korie4198
@korie4198 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine the Capital has some kind of rapid withdrawal drug that Haymitch could take in order to avoid that aspect in the arena.
@eamparbeng
@eamparbeng 4 жыл бұрын
@@korie4198 who knows? Maybe the Capitol made sure that whichever liquor bottle Haymitch specifically bought from Ripper, that woman from the Hob who sells that substance, had that drug in his bottles and told her to keep quiet on the penalty of death.
@jonesfamily5777
@jonesfamily5777 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly imagine haymitch in the get up for the parades Secondly haymitch would be very important and I can't think of anything extra to what you said
@idiot7098
@idiot7098 4 жыл бұрын
Hamitch would be good in the quarter quell because he won the quarter quell will double the amount of tributes
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It’s possible!
@nathan2552
@nathan2552 4 жыл бұрын
He’s also 25 years older tho
@nishinoyuu6064
@nishinoyuu6064 4 жыл бұрын
being in an arena with double the amount of people is different from being in an arena with very experienced killers and victors. so no haymitch wouldn’t necessarily have the skills.
@cindithompson856
@cindithompson856 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathan2552 but remember brutus and chaff were like 40 to 50 and still did very well
@Ben-vl5ew
@Ben-vl5ew 4 жыл бұрын
@@cindithompson856 but haymitch was an unhealthy alcoholic He would probably go mad from lack of alcohol lol
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Hi friends! A lot of you will notice that today's video is filmed in the old set. This is because I am now officially on maternity leave! So what does this mean exactly? No I have not had the baby yet (and please don't ask repeatedly if I've given birth, I will post on Instagram etc once the baby is born). All of the videos posted for the next 6 weeks to two months were filmed over the last 6 months, so a lot of them are filmed in the old house. I will still be answering your comments as much as possible, and will still be active on social media (Discord, Instagram, Twitter etc). However I may be less active! Thank you all for your understanding, and happy bubbles!
@jonesfamily5777
@jonesfamily5777 4 жыл бұрын
Your having a baby
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Jones Family I am!
@jonesfamily5777
@jonesfamily5777 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver congatulations
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Jones Family thank you ☺️
@banjotiki3910
@banjotiki3910 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver Good luck
@floraidhfinnie4906
@floraidhfinnie4906 4 жыл бұрын
He would have to use code language to Peeta to explain the rebel plan and send him messages in the arena, He would try his best to protect Katniss but due to his addictions and old age, it would be unlikely he would survive this event or be rescued as district 13 would find him useless in the rebellion
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@ethypoo
@ethypoo 4 жыл бұрын
You and Movieflame are the only channels I watch for Hunger Games lol.
@ananyaghose6621
@ananyaghose6621 4 жыл бұрын
Try watching Christian Blanco, he makes up his own games!
@ethypoo
@ethypoo 4 жыл бұрын
Ananya Ghose yeah I also watch him. But I’m talking about theories lol.
@sven944
@sven944 4 жыл бұрын
Ethan NO Then change your comment to “You and Movieflame are the the only theory channels I watch for The Hunger Games lol. No hate nor annoyed. Just bored. Really bored. 😐
@aridog2496
@aridog2496 3 жыл бұрын
@Ananya Ghose I love this videos
@beanboyzach2427
@beanboyzach2427 4 жыл бұрын
There’s one major thing that hasn’t been mentioned: Brutus. Brutus would still kill Chaff, but Haymitch most likely wouldn’t be able too kill Brutus. This would lead too Brutus most likely getting out of the arena with Enobaria. If Haymitch had been at the same place Peeta had been, I still don’t believe Haymitch would’ve been able to kill Brutus, even if he was weakened by Chaff. He would most likely be going through withdrawal and unable to fight. This means he’d either be killed be Brutus or spared. If killed, this would be very traumatising too Katniss and would affect the story in huge amounts. What do you guys think?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
With different people in the arena the Games would take place differently. We don’t know wether Brutus and Haymitch would ever encounter each other, let alone how that would go
@hooverblox3804
@hooverblox3804 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I don't think she have been as unhinged by Haymitch's death/capture. Definetely she'd have been upset but her mission in the second games was to protect Peeta and she had been hoping Haymitch could volunteer in his place. While Haymitch had saved Katniss's life as well, she was falling in love with Peeta and had formed a more intimate bond with him when they were in the first games.
@lordfawful9469
@lordfawful9469 4 жыл бұрын
Cjaff was Haymitch's best friend amongst the Victor's (at least I think so), so he could be encouraged to kill him to avenge Chaff.
@lindseyphelps4092
@lindseyphelps4092 3 жыл бұрын
There is also the fact that the only reason Peeta left Beetee was because he thought Katniss was in trouble, even though Beetee told him to stay with him he ignored him. Haymitch knew that Katniss was with Joanna and that she would do whatever necessary to protect Katniss so he wouldnt have a real reason to leave the lightning tree to find Katniss then unintentionally running into Brutus. If he did he would be leaving Beetee unprotected with 2 careers on the loose and as we all know, Beetee was a big part of the rebellion. So it wouldnt make sense for him to leave especially when Finnick had already left to go find them. That's just my thought process lmao
@williamnjagi2388
@williamnjagi2388 3 жыл бұрын
Haymitch is smart and probably would kill brutus with his tricks
@julialovegym8953
@julialovegym8953 4 жыл бұрын
I think Haymitch is one of the greatest because he is the only alive survivor of a quarter quell.He won the games with 48 tributes.I think the games would have been interesting too.I find Haymitch a great entertaining character. Btw live your vids
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Haymitch is great!
@stephenmccarthy2517
@stephenmccarthy2517 4 жыл бұрын
Ironically: I think the 'power' of choice should be given to the one reaped, they should be able to choose consent for the volunteers to take their place. After all, wouldn't the Capitol want their tributes to initially see the games as more of a lucky honor, than a hopeless damnation?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a good idea!
@haydenehlich8502
@haydenehlich8502 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking my mind off of the uncertainty in our world for a few minutes!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help! It’s important to find ways to relax and reduce our anxiety. Stay safe, and perhaps more importantly, stay calm 💚
@t.elijah36
@t.elijah36 4 жыл бұрын
Since Haymitch knew, he would have had to be saved. If he let out that information, it would be game over for the rebels. It would be likely that Snow would keep an eye on Haymitch, as he had upset him before in the 2nd Quater Quell.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@justapleb3396
@justapleb3396 4 жыл бұрын
It is interesting but I don't think he would survive to the point he could be rescued I think he would have died since I don't think he would be a great swimmer so he could have drowned while getting to the cornucopia, If he did survive the bloodbath he could have died in the same spot Mags died or since he is an easy target be killed instead of Wiress or with Wiress. But I really don't think he would have survived the games.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense!
@tejasjulka6176
@tejasjulka6176 4 жыл бұрын
He wouldnt drown actually. In the books it’s mentioned that they have these flotation things around their hips that prevents them from drowning
@musiclover01ist
@musiclover01ist 4 жыл бұрын
That would have been risky for haymitch to be in the games knowing what he knew. I think he he would have found a way to be killed or kill himself before the capitol would get anything out of him.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
That seems likely!
@towels4free332
@towels4free332 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m more invested in your amazing lipstick😝
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@itskimforkim-yi
@itskimforkim-yi 8 ай бұрын
casually watching all your videos now I watched the songbird and snakes movies hahahahaha. Personally I think MOVIE Haymitch would have a good shot at winning another quarter quell, like the addiction withdrawal and PTSD he would definitely be able to annihilate a bunch of people before someone like Brutus would kill him. Considering everything Haymitch has gone through, that darkness and violence within him would help a lot for the movie version of him. A lot of people want to see his games and his story written and adapted and I am one of those people!!!!!!
@donnak8195
@donnak8195 4 жыл бұрын
Okay but why did Effie sound relieved when she called Haymitch. Did she know Peeta would volunteer? Was she glad it *wasn't* Peeta? *I DON'T KNOW*
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I think she was relieved it wasn’t Peeta
@baileytownsend9622
@baileytownsend9622 4 жыл бұрын
I think she was relieved that haymitch way pulled because she knew Peeta would volunteer, making the rebel plan more likely to happen. (This of course is only if Effie knew the rebel plan, if not then she was relieved it wasn’t Peeta)
@user-jp6zl5yd1h
@user-jp6zl5yd1h 3 жыл бұрын
If you watch carfuly she was less enthusiastic in catching fire than in the first one cause she loved katniss and peet's she was already upset she knew no matter what katniss had to go in but she still had hope there was a possibility peeta would not going making at least one of them live she was sad she had to do it cause she was saying it almost crying but in the first one she was smiling and happy cause she did not know any of them and do not care for them as much as she cares for them In catching fire
@donnak8195
@donnak8195 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-jp6zl5yd1h oof
@user-jp6zl5yd1h
@user-jp6zl5yd1h 3 жыл бұрын
@@donnak8195 yeah
@chases.9667
@chases.9667 4 жыл бұрын
He would sacrifice himself.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It’s possible!
@AllyHerron
@AllyHerron 4 жыл бұрын
Love this Jess!!!! I’ve thought about this in the past and it’s awesome hearing what you think!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ally! Glad you liked it!!!
@travis7725
@travis7725 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve binged watch all your videos and I love them it really makes you think what if all this happened
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I’m glad you liked them!
@mai-linhweller824
@mai-linhweller824 4 жыл бұрын
These videos are literally the only thing getting me through quarantine thank u😭
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I'm happy the videos are helping you! Stay safe 💛
@Anonymous-sy7or
@Anonymous-sy7or 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video hope you enjoy your time off you’ve earned it and thanks for filming all these videos for us well you have your time away hope you and your baby are doing well :)
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@gut3790
@gut3790 4 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Have fun with your little baby once He/She is delivered! Im very proud of you! Keep up the great work!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@chosengirlonfire
@chosengirlonfire 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video. My friends think I'm strange that Haymitch is my favourite character but he has such a interesting character. Very interesting theory to think about. PS. I,m glad that this video came out today as its my bday and it was very enjoyable to watch. 🎂🎉🎈
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday! I personally love Haymitch, so I wouldn’t say you’re strange at all!!!
@cynthiarouse9283
@cynthiarouse9283 4 жыл бұрын
Omg. I love your lipstick colors!! So unique!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@cynthiarouse9283
@cynthiarouse9283 4 жыл бұрын
Story Diver, I am one of the only girls that loves the hunger games in my school. I think the same questions that you answer! I am so glad I have free time to watch your videos!
@prosoccer3453
@prosoccer3453 4 жыл бұрын
an interesting topic, and a nice video!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jdw4660
@jdw4660 4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel!! I love Hunger Games!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@randommedia2974
@randommedia2974 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@fatimahlatif1834
@fatimahlatif1834 4 жыл бұрын
i love your channel and congratulations on the baby!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@anthonydeitsch1699
@anthonydeitsch1699 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I have a video suggestion that I’ve been thinking about quite a lot recently, who would have won the 75th Hunger Games if the rebel plan never ended up happening? (If the games were played as normal games, without all of the rebels teaming up). Just a suggestion, thank you!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I've done a video that covers this 😉
@averyt16
@averyt16 4 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos on THG!!! I hope your baby will be a nice healthy boy/girl :) Also I would love to see a video on Gale (If there isn't one already) Enjoy maternity leave
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I do have a Character Spotlight on Gale if you want!
@averyt16
@averyt16 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver Thanks!
@LunatheMoonDragon
@LunatheMoonDragon 4 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that they couldn’t save Peeta and Johanna because they still had their trackers in their arms. Johanna cut Katniss’s out shortly before the end, but no one was around to do the same for Peeta, and perhaps Johanna didn’t have time to cut out her own before being knocked out. Unless there’s more context in the books, which I wouldn’t know about. I’d love to know!
@o2matt403
@o2matt403 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t Haymitch be the first and only victor to have been part of two quarter quells?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he would have
@o2matt403
@o2matt403 4 жыл бұрын
Such a special character. Wish they had enough time for his past in the movies. But that’s why I read the books, and why they’re better.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Berry very true!
@littlebigcubing6062
@littlebigcubing6062 4 жыл бұрын
That would only happen if the invasion never happened because it caused the games to end with no victor.
@abbyandavery8233
@abbyandavery8233 4 жыл бұрын
First! I love this video and your channel!!!!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@keeponwishin
@keeponwishin 3 жыл бұрын
It is also likely that if Peeta’s name was called at the reaping, Haymitch May not have volunteered for him. Haymitch has a critical role in the rebel plan and if he would go into the arena, Peeta would have to absorb a lot of information in a very short amount of time. Also Peeta has absolutely no mentoring experience or experience dealing with sponsors. That said, by Haymitch going back on his word to Katniss to volunteer for Peeta, it could have certainly changed the dynamic of their relationship much earlier on where she never trusts him again.
@imakebadvideos
@imakebadvideos 4 жыл бұрын
It’s so backwards Haymitch was reaped so Peeta went in So if Peeta was reaped Haymitch would have gone in SEEMS LEGIT
@T0ni-ql2li
@T0ni-ql2li 4 жыл бұрын
Wait what if there was no living victors in one district
@faithfulfeather5977
@faithfulfeather5977 4 жыл бұрын
I suppose tributes would be reaped normally, as if there was no twist
@alejandronuila6150
@alejandronuila6150 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! What would’ve happened if Plutarch wasn’t the Head Gamemaker of the Games? If the gamemaker was just like Seneca Crain (not a part of the rebels) do you think Katniss would’ve survived?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to say. Another gamemaker may have killed her off immediately, or let things play out “naturally” in the arena giving her a chance of surviving
@whotheheckis_ray
@whotheheckis_ray 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a Slytherin too!!!
@hafsafatima9347
@hafsafatima9347 4 жыл бұрын
That is a top notch explanation
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@hafsafatima9347
@hafsafatima9347 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver I really mean it
@hafsafatima9347
@hafsafatima9347 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver Congrats on 2K+ subs!!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Hafsa Fatima thank you!
@kylebicker8179
@kylebicker8179 4 жыл бұрын
Happy bubbles!
@juniorbamae
@juniorbamae 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a Lyme character spotlight as little is know about her and when you are doing the character Spotlights you should name their appearance difference as finnick is described as olive skinned and green eyes but in the movie blue eyed and tanned skinned so you should name their differences
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I do name differences in the Character Spotlights, that’s the main reason behind them. As for Lyme, there’s not enough information about her to warrant a video unfortunately
@juniorbamae
@juniorbamae 4 жыл бұрын
Ok thank you
@alexandradavis2234
@alexandradavis2234 4 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to have one video about the first quarter quell
@mrbleak9873
@mrbleak9873 3 жыл бұрын
The lore was always so intriguing to me. The writing, let’s face it, is good enough for the basic subject matter. It leaves a lot to be desired. I love this channel for the lore behind it all.
@mrbleak9873
@mrbleak9873 3 жыл бұрын
“Remember who the real enemy is.” “I’m not the enemy...” Cmon. This should’ve been a series of mini series and it would’ve redefined story telling for the masses.
@mrbleak9873
@mrbleak9873 3 жыл бұрын
“DUCK!?” Finn is the boss mode outta the gate.
@mrbleak9873
@mrbleak9873 3 жыл бұрын
In the movies sooo much hangs upon Katniss just figuring it all out, sort of? It’s cheap and lazy. The movies did a great job in general for the time constraints they had.
@melaniehuber5241
@melaniehuber5241 4 жыл бұрын
What if Tresh had killed Katniss after he killed Clove?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll look into it!
@melaniehuber5241
@melaniehuber5241 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@Troy_Palo24
@Troy_Palo24 4 жыл бұрын
I think of this was what it actually was it would be really cool to see the different dynamics with Katniss and haymitch both in the games
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It would have been!
@sportsshorts9607
@sportsshorts9607 3 жыл бұрын
Im just here for the new makeup color
@carsivus4866
@carsivus4866 4 жыл бұрын
Heres how I think it would play out: Katniss is the first to the Cornucopia, followed quickly by Finnick. Haymitch didn't manage to give Finnick the bracelet so Katniss nearly kills him before Haymitch gets between them and quickly explains. They kill a handful of tributes before running from the island. Unfortunately feel that this delay might lead to Mags' death, so their alliance is down to three. Somehow they meet Chaff in the jungle and they team up with him (I wish Cedar was their too but I think she died in the bloodbath). Johanna, Beetee, Blight and Wiress meet up with the other four on the beach. They find out about the arena being a clock and I think that Wiress would die again, however it's possible that the careers wouldn't attack due to the fact that the Rebel Alliance has double the amount of people compared to the career alliance. Chaff would go after Brutus and maybe drown him under the water, nearly dying himself. Cashmere and Gloss are killed by Katniss and Johanna, leaving Enobaria as the last career. Also dont forget that Haymitch is very good with knives, so its possible that he gets a few kills as well. Without both of the careers to stop the plan, the team all gets to the lightning tree and is rescued. Another Hover craft gets Peeta, Annie and Effie. With her time away from Peeta I think Katniss would realize that she only wants to be friends, and in the end she never gets married. After the war there would be 11 living Victors: Enobaria, Beetee, Wiress, Finnick, Annie, Johanna, Blight, Chaff, Katniss, Peeta and Haymitch. When it comes to the vote for the final games with the capitols children. the votes are as follows. For the games: - Katniss (rue still dies) - Haymitch (with the mockinjay) - Johanna (badass) - Enobaria (badass) - Blight (with Johanna and also PTSD and revenge) - Chaff (same as Blight) - Wiress (probably the first time that she disagrees with Beetee, the trauma that she faces and the everyday struggles of her disability are both from her games, she wants revenge.) Against the games: - Finnick (sees hope in his child and just how savage the games are) - Annie (same as Finnick) - Peeta (hes tired of the conflict) -Beetee "we need to stop seeing each other as enemies" So yeah, the 76th Hunger Games take place with the Capitols children. The children are reaped from a singular ball in the City Centre in the Capitol, and they are all the children of Snows accomplices, sort of switching the roles for why the games happened in the first place. Your parents did something bad so you have to suffer. I have a feeling that these games would be interesting because the Capitol children had access to the older games like the careers, possibly making them even more deadly than their district counterparts.
@AndyCandy13
@AndyCandy13 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think Katniss actually planned to have a 76th hunger games. I believe the only reason she says yes, is to gain the trust of Coin. So that way Coin will allow her to be the one to "kill Snow" but then she can actually kill Coin. She says "Yes for Prim" but she has just spoken with Snow who said that it was really Coins doing, that got her killed.
@zar6134
@zar6134 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about what if Katniss was taken by the capitol at that point instead of Peeta and what whould have happened to the rebel plan. How would have Peeta reacted to this? Would Katniss have been Hijacked like he was?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I'll look into it!
@prispriscilia1559
@prispriscilia1559 4 жыл бұрын
I know that Peeta and katniss had to go to the quarter quell together because of the star crossed lovers, etc but it would've been so interesting to see haymitch in the games.
@thelucasrealm1582
@thelucasrealm1582 4 жыл бұрын
Also great video I forgot to mension
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Clara-zn3kb
@Clara-zn3kb 3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure that you're a Slytherin?Your theories,and the way you explain sound a lot like a ravenclaw :))
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 3 жыл бұрын
Your sorted into the house that holds your values, I value ambition very highly
@NatRomanoff58
@NatRomanoff58 Жыл бұрын
It would've been interesting to see Haymitch as a tribute, but I would've been more interested to see what would've happened with Peeta being the mentor. The rebels would have to loop him in on enough info so that he could assist with their plans, but how much would they actually have told him? And how would he respond to their plan? I'm sure he'd be onboard with the rescue mission, but since he's not into war, would he really become a rebel, or just play along until Katniss was safe? That's what I've always wondered. Also, love your vids 👍
@KMXC17
@KMXC17 3 жыл бұрын
I think if Haymitch was in the Games with Katniss, D13 would NEED to prioritize getting him or Peeta out with Katniss, because she would need one to help her cope with not having the other. Haymitch helped Katniss be the Mockingjay by holding the meeting to show how Katniss moved people, and later was the only one she went to when she broke down for Peeta. Next to Peeta, he is arguably her biggest source of comfort and security (aside from Gale) And if they got Peeta instead of Katniss, he could give her the strength she needed to be the Mockingjay. He could even be with her on camera, and if the Star Crossed Lovers supported the same side, they could even get Capitolites to rebel. And, Peeta could comfort Katniss when it came to missing Haymitch, as he was the one she was closest to out of the captured Victors. So if Katniss didn't have either, she would have fallen apart. D13 would need to prioritize getting at least one of them out.
@ilooovefortnite
@ilooovefortnite 4 жыл бұрын
THIS WOULD’VE BEEN INTERESTING
@beth5092
@beth5092 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video about what would have happened if there was no rebellion after the 75th games. What would Katniss and Peeta be like as mentors etc.?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll look into it!
@evisnurfle8259
@evisnurfle8259 4 жыл бұрын
I think that he would struggle quite a bit in the beginning but the fact that he is crucial to the larger plan would motivate him to keep going, for the rebels and the rebellion
@genevievearchbaker8604
@genevievearchbaker8604 4 жыл бұрын
What if you are born 1 to 6 years after a quarter quell and never get reaped? Sounds very, very lucky
@idunno1951
@idunno1951 4 жыл бұрын
I need to stop watching the videos about Catching fire until I finish reading it! I can't tho, this is too good.. :(
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@faithfulfeather5977
@faithfulfeather5977 4 жыл бұрын
This is not thg related but... I love your snufkin pfp xD
@idunno1951
@idunno1951 4 жыл бұрын
carrot
@harrisonreacts4006
@harrisonreacts4006 4 жыл бұрын
I’d also love if you could say your top 10 or top 20 hunger games characters
@rogueally7993
@rogueally7993 3 жыл бұрын
There is an amazing fanfiction series by deathmallow on AO3 that goes into this concept. Anyone who wants to read an in-depth exploration of Haymitch as a character and an AU where Haymitch goes into the arena in the Quell should check it out.
@frootslust
@frootslust 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on what if, for example, a district didn’t have a female/male living tribute to offer to the 3rd quarter quell? Say for example, Katniss died in the 74th games, and say the 75th games still continued to be the change of reaping from the existing pool of victors, district 12 would have none. So what would happen then? I understand if Katniss had died in the previous games, they wouldn’t have changed the 3rd quarter quell. But just hypothetically😅 I love your videos so much!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I have!
@cutillasluis6982
@cutillasluis6982 4 жыл бұрын
hey, have you read the books caraval,legendary and finale, btw love the hunger games vids and i love you
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I have not!
@euneuneun1452
@euneuneun1452 3 жыл бұрын
hey girl, insightful takes you've put together., im a psychologist from eastern africa i think haymitch would have been fine. when people face extreme trauma repetitively as haymitch has done due to being in and out of the arena he would have a unique insight of getting 1 more sponsers from friends that survived but also from his expericene of killing twice as many people than the rest of the victors. also trauma resistance is a funny thing, enough of the same trauma can cause someone to bounce back so much fast as they live in constant survival mode, their dreams them how to avoid certain new traps daily so it he would have had more being the only district 12 mentor, typically it daily activities like bathing jobs eating well that they truly struggle with, as we see haymitch struggles with. a bouncy ball doesnt know how not to bounce, haymitch is that.
@davidyuhas738
@davidyuhas738 4 жыл бұрын
One little Thing...as an American who has lived in London for nearly a Decade & can understand any Amount of Cockney,...& has read the Trilogy more than once in English & in Translation in 2 other Languages I would have greatly appreciated English Subtitles to your Video so I could figure out what you were saying...(which sounded really interesting).
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I will be adding subtitles when I have time (hopefully in the next coming months). Interesting that you bring up a cockney accent, considering mine is not cockney at all 😂
@cutillasluis6982
@cutillasluis6982 4 жыл бұрын
hey can you make a video about what would have happened if the rule of the first movie, you know the one that says that if thw two members of the same district are alive they can team up. because if that wouldn´t have happened most of the love action wouldn't have happened and maybe they would not be alive
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll look into it!
@KingShark-rh3nk
@KingShark-rh3nk 4 жыл бұрын
It’d be cool to see Peeta and Katniss to mentoring the tributes of the next hunger games. Too bad that the uprising happened before the next hunger games
@scarlett-roseclark4874
@scarlett-roseclark4874 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should do what if Katniss Peeta and Rue were the last tribute standing
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll look into it!
@orangeflower2797
@orangeflower2797 4 жыл бұрын
Hey!! As far as I remember, in the movies, Haymich and Effie end up together at the end? At least I like to believe they actually do❤️ I'd be interested to hear your opinion on this, maybe even a whole video :)
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
They do kiss at the end, though wether this leads to a relationship or not is up to interpretation! I personally ship them together so would like to think they do actually end up together!
@heatherjones6997
@heatherjones6997 2 жыл бұрын
I believe if Haymitch competed, he would likely turn to suicide. If that weren't an option, he might turn to other addictions, such as urine consumption, or ask, possibly even force, another tribute to kill him. Or maybe he might trick the Capitol into killing him, such as in a situation like Titus, a tribute mentioned in the first novel, who started eating the tributes he killed. It is thought by Katniss that the avalanche that killed him was manufactured by the Capitol.
@lanasbigphatchemtrailyuh3692
@lanasbigphatchemtrailyuh3692 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about other arenas and there possibilities katniss and peeta could’ve had
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I'll look into it!
@sk8pepe762
@sk8pepe762 4 жыл бұрын
I this Woody Harris is the perfect person to play the drunk, lonely, and tired Haymitch
@alanwhyte792
@alanwhyte792 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please do:what if Katniss never pulled out those berries
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll look into it!
@alanwhyte792
@alanwhyte792 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver thanks. Congratulations for the baby🤱
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Alan Whyte thank you!
@alanwhyte792
@alanwhyte792 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver your welcome
@gemriosorignal
@gemriosorignal 4 жыл бұрын
First in the books it shows peeta taking on the mentorship role by having them all 3 train. Also it is clearly started that Haymitch had stopped drinking. I think he started again after peeta was for sure going to go into the games. Also is would not beed to be recused because he would know the plan cut out his own tracker. A reminded they didnt save peeta and joanna because the capital could fallow them. So all 3 oh them would end up in district 13 peeta, Katniss, and Haymitch. The change now would be that non of the victories would be saved until after the war was over because there is no point in saving them before.
@johncarlorara7533
@johncarlorara7533 3 жыл бұрын
He will be the only tribute to participate in 2 quarter quell
@caradarling
@caradarling 3 ай бұрын
As much as I would’ve loved to see Haymitch in the 75th Games, I think he had much lower survival odds than Peeta so it wouldn’t have worked storywise. He’s a longtime alcoholic in withdrawal who’s much older and less fit. Probably not going to make it very far. Would’ve been interesting though that he would’ve been the only tribute to be in two quarter quells. I think if it had been him in the games, he most likely would’ve died protecting Katniss somehow. And it also would’ve been a total mess briefing Peeta on the whole thing in the span of a week and having him play mentor for the first time. He would’ve been spared the whole hijacking torture situation, but I don’t know if he would’ve been able to pull off the plan to get Katniss out. So it’s probably best that it was Peeta in the 75th, at least for the rebellion.
@kamenriderfourze8434
@kamenriderfourze8434 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about what would happen if Brutus killed Peeta
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll look into it!
@loriketter6679
@loriketter6679 4 жыл бұрын
Just an idea (once you start making new videos again) what if thresh hadnt died like he had killed cato so it would be Katniss, peeta,thresh and fox face you dont have to just an idea
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I'll look into it!
@animejerk05
@animejerk05 4 жыл бұрын
Katniss would kill thresh and katniss may or may not lose popularity with the districts the events Would mostly unfold the same
@storm739
@storm739 4 жыл бұрын
ok but imagine Haymitch in the fire suit and actually burning because he drank something before. That gives "catching fire" a whole new meaning...
@davidgames9867
@davidgames9867 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do if Cato won the hunger games
@tammymartinez7488
@tammymartinez7488 4 жыл бұрын
Then no rebellion? Cato would side with the rebels!
@maxcooper2553
@maxcooper2553 3 жыл бұрын
Haymitch is fast and killed three careers coming at him he is fast and has good survival knowledge
@ja_macz1602
@ja_macz1602 4 жыл бұрын
could you make a video about haymitch and effie possible relationship? it would be wonderful!
@girlwhocanbreathe
@girlwhocanbreathe 3 жыл бұрын
imagine if haymitch went into 2 quarter quells
@fizzymelonjuice
@fizzymelonjuice 4 жыл бұрын
Did you know that out of Effie, Katniss, Haymitch, and Peeta, their last names spell team? Trinket, Everdeen, Abernathy, Mellark. T-E-A-M.
@ActiveAdvocate1
@ActiveAdvocate1 4 жыл бұрын
In either case, he's dead, because he would have died in the arena to protect Katniss, if necessary, but then, when the rescue happens, if 13 didn't pick him up, he'd die in the Capitol to guard all the information he had. Other than Plutarch, Haymitch was probably the only other person who knew the entire plan.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@Queen_Siobhan
@Queen_Siobhan 4 жыл бұрын
Obliviously this is based off the movie instead of the book, because in the book Peeta finds Katniss and Haymitch passed out drunk and gets angry with them. However the 3 come up with a plan that Peeta and Katniss would train like careers to go into the arena and if Haymitch was reaped (which he was) then Peeta would go in. I kinda like the idea that Haymitch and Katniss had a secret plan though, that Haymitch (like in the movie) would volunteer as tribute if Peeta was called. We know from the book that Haymitch stopped drinking in order to focus on Katniss and Peeta's training and to be a good mentor, so the issue of him going through withdrawal wouldn't be as bad as you describe. He will still suffer, especially with the PTSD, however I don't think it would be as devastating. I also think since Haymitch was aware of the rebel plan to escape, he would have accompanied Katniss with the coil to the beach instead of Johanna. The other victors wouldn't have to worry about Katniss splitting off with Haymitch because he would know to stick with the group until the rescue. I do believe Haymitch would have attempted to remove Katniss's tracker if he realised their plan was about to fail. I then believe he would have sacrificed himself to the career tributes in order for her to be saved. Would be extremely interesting.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
This is based on both the book and the movie
@Queen_Siobhan
@Queen_Siobhan 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver I must have missed parts that were more based off the book. I didn't mean any disrespect, I just thought there was more evidence from the movie. But then again, "What ifs?" can never be perfect since they are all based of "what if such and such happened instead?" I do love your What if videos! My Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes hasn't arrived yet so I'm watching all these videos to get excited
@oltzu5206
@oltzu5206 3 жыл бұрын
Well he could put that alcohol into some deadly use if you know what i mean🔥 :D
@alondraixchelhuerta6972
@alondraixchelhuerta6972 4 жыл бұрын
First of all excuse me, for I have only seen the movies (although my books are already shipping so don't worry I WILL read them), but I always felt that Effie was involved in the reaping. It just seemed extremely coincidental to me that it was Haymitch who was reaped and it passed exactly as he and Katniss had already talked about, Peeta would volunteer. It wouldn't have mattered, in my opinion, if Peeta's name was the one reaped, after all Effie had the last word, and it would always be Haymitch regardless of what was written on the paper.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It's very possible that the reaping was rigged!
@animejerk05
@animejerk05 4 жыл бұрын
Doubt it was rigged pretty risky for the Capitol to assume peeta would volunteer for haymitch katniss is the main target
@alpha5664
@alpha5664 2 жыл бұрын
In the books it was stated that Haymitch was winded easily when running for a short period of time. Not only would he be out of shape his withdrawal symptoms with him being in a hostile environment would make him on edge rather quickly which would often get himself hurt or perhaps even killed in the arena despite Katniss and Finnick doing their best to save him.
@thequeendream6162
@thequeendream6162 4 жыл бұрын
That would've been epic lol
@skylarblue7517
@skylarblue7517 3 жыл бұрын
do you think in order to work on the plan he wont volunteer? katniss would be so mad and probably not listen to him so maybe not
@eilishcorkery2364
@eilishcorkery2364 4 жыл бұрын
Peeta would have still been captured if Haymitch volunteered as tribute for Peeta, just like Annie was captured by the capitol and she didn't participate in the quarter quell. Finnicks weakness is his love for Annie. Just like Katniss's weakness is her love for Peeta. Haymitch volunteering for Peeta wouldn't make a difference as I think Peeta would have still been captured by the capitol.
@Williams_Bishop
@Williams_Bishop 4 жыл бұрын
If Haymitch was in the 3rd quarter quell he would be the first tribute to be in two quarter quells. P.S. love the shirt!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Very true! Thank you!
@tdk0623
@tdk0623 4 жыл бұрын
Who is your favorite charachter
@bonniedoeswhat795
@bonniedoeswhat795 4 жыл бұрын
Haymich has his problems but he was smart and harsh. He’d be like releasing a shrewd but wild animal. He’d plot and attack. I don’t think he’d ignore Beetee and Wiress like some of the others. Maybe he’d deteriorate over time, but he’d go in strong. If rescued he might not be too much worse for wear. The alcoholism and PTSD would be intense and horrible problems, so they could pull him down but he’d have some plans in place before ever entered the arena.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It’s possible!
@mightymikec7
@mightymikec7 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion it was already set up for Haymitch name to be picked first in the reaping probably by rigging the ballots. Plutarch had it already planned for Haymitch to be helping on the sidelines recruiting the victors to assist Katniss in the arena..which wouldn't be possible if Peeta wasn't reaped because Peeta would be useless in recruiting the past victors because he didn't know them in that way in which Haymitch did.So Haymitch knew he couldn't be reaped..so the plan was for him to be picked first ,knowing Peeta would volunteer..which allowed for Haymitch to help behind the scenes.Everthing was set up by Plutarch and Haymitch...the games and the reaping...to initiate the rebellion....it didn't make sense that the reaping wouldn't be set up either
@Marisarabia3167
@Marisarabia3167 4 жыл бұрын
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