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@Scornfull Жыл бұрын
Tobirama is definitely fodder if you compare him to characters that are above city block level
@jackson9034 Жыл бұрын
@@Scornfull fr tobirama is the weakest hokage even tsunade negs him old hiruzen and kakashi both can beat him
@Inverse_pain Жыл бұрын
@@Scornfull Itachi would win the moment he pulls out the susanoo. I mainly think this because we have no feats from tobirama showing that he could hurt the susanoo besides him cutting the roots of the divine tree, now this could show that he could cut Itachi susanoo in half potentially, not very likely but potentially, now even if he could Itachi had the yata mirror which can deflect anything and then Itachi also has totsuka blade which can seal tobirama in one slice of it hits him, also Itachi could very well be just as fast or faster than tobirama, mainly because of the fact that before naruto minato was the only person faster then Ay and minato was faster than tobirama and then KCM1 Naruto proved to also be faster than Ay and Edo Itachi was just about the same speed as KCM1 Naruto. Also Tobirama was beat by kinkagu and jinkagu who when revived were beaten by DARUI WHO ITACHI IS DEFINITELY STRONGER THAN.
@jackson9034 Жыл бұрын
@@Inverse_pain sick itachi one shots tobirama negative diff
@Inverse_pain Жыл бұрын
@@jackson9034 bruh negative diff is too much insult 💀mid diff is ok!
@0v3rK1llval2 жыл бұрын
Tobirama gets racist buff against Uchihas, even the Uchiha that killed all other Uchihas
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@RahulJain-ji6ww2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@siiixb31282 жыл бұрын
+10% damage
@bonafidethadonofficial76802 жыл бұрын
The Madara that Tobirama fought though blind, also had a sage Mode amp from Hashirama so he could sense chakra and Itachi already stated that can't sense chakra but Itachi still might win if he takes the fight seriously
Tobirama gets a massive boost just for his racism alone against the uchihas.
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
But Tobirama is Itachi's #1 fan, because he killed hundreds of Uchihas
@mr-popo-122 жыл бұрын
@@DygoKnight didn't obito help why does no one talk abt that?
@Sephiroth32vergil Жыл бұрын
@@mr-popo-12 Obito helped but Itachi still needed to kill a bunch himself.
@mr-popo-12 Жыл бұрын
@@Sephiroth32vergil okay
@WEEBOTAKU493 Жыл бұрын
@@Sephiroth32vergil Obito kill police force that was more impressive than killing a citizens.. because police force is almost everyone is a good fighter and they are carrying Uchiha name and respect.. so Obito won This.. why Tobirama didn't love Obito 😢😢.. he was attacking him in war all the time
@Gnadeeer2 жыл бұрын
"Tobirama doesn't have something powerful in his arsenal" , his tandem paper bombs literally broke hashirama s deity gate that could hold the ten tails
@angelonael8148 Жыл бұрын
DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING POWERFUL IN HIS ARSENAL? BRUH LOOK WHAT TOBIRAMA TECHNIQUES CREATED POPULAR JUTSU HE MADE Shadow Clone Jutsu Flying Thunder God Technique Reanimation Jutsu Jutsu Area Scanning Technique Bringer-of-Darkness Technique (Anime only) Flying Thunder God Mutually Instantaneous Revolving Technique Flying Thunder God Slash Four Red Yang Formation Heavenly Weeping Mutually Multiplying Explosive Tags Sensing Technique Summoning Technique Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation Water Release: Water Bullet Technique Water Release: Water Colliding Wave (Anime only) Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique Water Release: Water Fang Bullet (Anime only) Water Release: Water Formation Wall Water Release: Water Severing Wave SO MANY MORE JUTSU Nature Type Water Release Fire Release Wind Release Lightning Release Earth Release Yin Release Yang Release Tools Explosive Tag Sword Sword of the Thunder God YOU JUST A BEING DUMB
@aceclover758 Жыл бұрын
Also he is a powerful water release user But given the uniqueness of Itachi’s Susanoo, he could defend against him
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
@@aceclover758Yata mirror negates water jutsu unless Tobirama has kisame levels of raw chakra
@muhsinajannat39175 ай бұрын
@@maalikserebryakov Are you kidding me?😂 Tobirama is a senju. So he has much more chakra than Kisame
@nik700 Жыл бұрын
In Tobirama's defense, Flying Thunder God was enough to defeat Izuna, who was one of the first MS users. He devoted his life to counter the Uchihas, so he must have something to, at least, resist a fight against the Susanoo
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
Flying raijin negates susanoo. What can susanoo do to a flying raijin user? hit him? lol. Tobirama would blink in and out of existence so much itachi would fall over in dizziness. Totsuka isn’t working. Yata mirror would not help much either. Although unless tobirama manages to tag Itachi before he wheels out the susanoo, then i think it would be a stalemate, but probably in Tobirama’s favour. We don’t know if Tobirama’s water release js strong enough to Crack itschi’s susanoo. But its possible: But without a doubt, tobirama’s tandem paper bomb technique is potent enough to ANNIHILATE itachi along with his Susanoo. Overall, I think Tobirama is most likely to take itachi’s autograph and become his #1 fan
@KurokamiNajimi Жыл бұрын
He would run out of chakra spamming that and Itachi doesn’t have to spam his strongest jutsu to keep up. In this video he forgot to mention regular Edo are weaker than their alive self so Itachi is actually faster than what we saw of the Edo version. Izanami is also an easy way to trap an opponent even if for a brief period that’s all he needs. And truthfully it’s not guaranteed he’ll always be able to dodge Amaterasu. That jutsu got nerfed because Itachi wasn’t using it where as Sasuke fights people who narratively can’t be one shotted. The Amaterasu Itachi implanted in Sasuke was fast enough to hit Obito perhaps because of the close range or just bc Itachi’s is faster. Obito can keep up with the Raikage who dodged Sasuke’s. Being nice and saying Tobirama can dodge it just one slip up or good tactic from Itachi ends him. On the other hand Tobirama doesn’t have as many win conditions with his stamina being exaggerated
@nik700 Жыл бұрын
@@KurokamiNajimi A Senju running out of chakra? Not likely. Also, edo Itachi could spam his MS abilities without care, so I don't see how he's weaker than alive Itachi. Amaterasu did catch Obito, but only because he was not expecting it
@KurokamiNajimi Жыл бұрын
@@nik700 From what I just looked up it’s actually the Uchiha who would have large reserves being descendants of the older brother which is why Itachi always has his Sharingan on (I remember that being stated once too). What the Senju have is physical stamina which is why Kushina who’s from a clan descendent from them didn’t die from having the Kyuubi extracted By weaker I’m talking about physical ability. Idk if we can say he was caught off guard bc he still saw his eye bleeding
@nik700 Жыл бұрын
@@KurokamiNajimi uchihas inherited hagoromo's eyes and senjus inherited hagoromo's life force. Uchihas do have big chakra reserves, but chakra is very tied to phisicallity, so Senjus would have larger reserves
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
Watch Itachi vs Pain: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j53cm5VqYpyJo6c
@aceclover758 Жыл бұрын
The fact Tobirama would force Itachi to use Susanoo is a feat enough
@vladbush14647 ай бұрын
Itachi is not that good lol
@aceclover7587 ай бұрын
@@vladbush1464 He really is
@SyedAli-gl7jq7 ай бұрын
Tobirama is not that good lmao@@vladbush1464
@jerichopagtama67712 жыл бұрын
How does Madara not have the advantage when tobirama fought him? He had the best sage mode so far and was reborn (alive)
@dontmisunderstand60412 жыл бұрын
And don't forget the hashirama cell buff. And the fact that edo tensei in itself is a nerf to base stats.
@DrooledOn2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a itachi fanboy
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
@@DrooledOn as expected tobirama fankids tobirama is so weak he lost to kinkaku and ginkaku
@tcm_nilla2 жыл бұрын
@@SyedAli-gl7jq itachi would prob loose to them too if he thinks or says the thing he say the most
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
@@tcm_nilla ofc itachi would lose to madara ik that but tobirama is fodder he lost to kin and gin even tsunade won't lose to those goofballs
@rudybryan393 Жыл бұрын
The reason why Madara evaded the flying raijin is because he had the sage mode he stole from Hashirama
@thechamp7429 ай бұрын
No it's because tobirama is too slow
@FddcbhFfg7 ай бұрын
@@thechamp742 bullshit. He dodged it beacuse he has RINNEGAN/HE IS ALIVE/HAS HASHI SM. ANIME ENJOYER FUCK OFF HERE
@muhsinajannat39175 ай бұрын
Nope@@thechamp742
@Papaty252 ай бұрын
@@thechamp742 he literally teleported. How can he be slow?
@thechamp7422 ай бұрын
@@Papaty25 he has a reaction time that's slow
@mohnamakakurosh10222 жыл бұрын
ngl, these are the fairest vs debates ever, somehow you've managed to balance the scale of itachitard and anti-itachi... that's the probably the most impressive feat I've seen among youtubers
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Xanny77772 жыл бұрын
We still don't know how strong Tobirama is in his prime.
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
huh... I always assumed he was at his prime when he died, I mean he doesn't look old at all
@Xanny77772 жыл бұрын
@@DygoKnight prime wasn't the right word honestly. What I meant is we haven't seen everything he is capable of. I wish we could see everything he is capable against a opponent on his level. All we see him fight is OP God like characters. Wish we got a flashback of the full fight between him and Izuna. Or maybe him vs the gold and silver brothers
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
@@Xanny7777 oh I see, yeah many characters have that problem
@baywatchkrabs13982 жыл бұрын
Remember , once Danzo Shimura has stated that no one was a match for lord second at his time of being a hokage....lol.... thats why on order to defeat lord 2nd u need 20 s rank shinobis + 2 pseudo jinchurikis who has sage of 6 paths power
@Xanny77772 жыл бұрын
@@baywatchkrabs1398 that is true. Tobirama could also create a entire ocean. Plus he was faster then Madara and Hashirama. I know people are going to say Madara dodged him but the reality was Tobirama was nerfed and Madara was buffed by Sage mode
@tonyrambo42572 жыл бұрын
Second hokage is just way too strong for itachi
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
Lmao its the other way around tobirama is overrated fodder with a couple of water jutsu sick itachi already wins this edo itachi is a sweep no diff
@ghostoftheuchiha526 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ghostoftheuchiha526 Жыл бұрын
@@SyedAli-gl7jq Total cap
@jackson9034 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostoftheuchiha526 keep dreaming
@donovan4222 Жыл бұрын
You can make an argument that Tobirama would win, but to act like there is a big gap is complete nonsense. It would be a pretty high diff fight for either of them. I'd take Itachi, they both have the same fighting style but Itachi has more one shot abilities and win conditions.
@twontwon18272 жыл бұрын
People seem to forget that tobirama has a technique similar to spirit transformation technique he has a mind body switch technique he could use if wanted!!
@spit-fire2 жыл бұрын
Was that the jutsu he wanted to use on sasuke?
@twontwon18272 жыл бұрын
@@spit-fire im not sure lol i really want to know kus that finger move looked mad powerful
@spit-fire2 жыл бұрын
@@twontwon1827 I mean when Sasuke was stabbed by Madara, and tobirama said something like "if only I could save his soul with my jutsu" . but he couldn't move cause the rods were in his back.
@twontwon18272 жыл бұрын
@@spit-fire damn i never picked up on that ill have to go back and watch
@baywatchkrabs13982 жыл бұрын
@@spit-fire he could move by his own by teleporting himself alon but not th rest
@saul_goodman39322 жыл бұрын
Tobirama slaps.
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
Edo itachi destroys with no diff
@TheTonytone772 жыл бұрын
itachi stomps while fucccking tobirama girlfriend
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
@@TheTonytone77 yep edo itachi claps tobirama 10/10 tobirama has nothing on Itachi here itachi wins every category
@ghostoftheuchiha526 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama literally solos Itachi dude...... The ones in denial are all 11y old kids
@jackson9034 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostoftheuchiha526 kid🤡get some milk if you can't provide it get cow's milk no one asked for your opinion the one with a madara pfp🤡
@Multihazardkerbecs2 жыл бұрын
I think Tobirama's Edo tensei paper bomb barrage can heavily damage Itachi's susano , if he doesn't pull out the Yata mirror which even at that is uni directional so some damage will be done , cause Juubito was implied to find it worthy to protect himself with his orbs and it destroyed the last largest standing Hashirama's gates.
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
That's a valid point. Though Juubito took at least the initial brunt of the attack without his Gudoudama desfense. I personally think that they are still paper bombs and wouldn't destroy the Susano'o, but I maybe be overstating the Susano'o's durability.
@Multihazardkerbecs2 жыл бұрын
@@DygoKnight Yeah , I doubt Itachi's Susano is as durable as Juubito (who wouldn't be taken out even temporarily by the bombs but still at least found them worthy to block) or Hashirama's largest gate which was destroyed.
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
@@Multihazardkerbecs True, but I kinda think the paper bombs are not as powerful infividually. If you combine them you create a large explosion, and that's why the gates were destroyed. But the power is not concentrated like that of a Gudoudama. I guess I just have a hard time imagening a Susano'o being destroyed by paper bombs. LOL. Like, do you think Itachi would survive Konan's sea of paper bombs assuming he has enough chakra to maintain his Susano'o for the whole duration?
@Multihazardkerbecs2 жыл бұрын
@@DygoKnight Its so hard to say lol , like you pointed out those are just paper bombs but their barrage somehow made Juubito feel the need to block and destroy Hashirama's biggest gate that could take the concentrated explosion of the Ten tail's beast bomb . It also seemed like the paper bomb set up by Tobirama on Juubito made a relatively more powerful explosion than Konan's batman prepped thousands of paper bombs , I haven't done any counting as such but visually she seemed to use more paper bombs than Tobirama , so maybe Tobirama's paper bombs were special ? I don't really know lmao , Naruto power creep tends to be stupid at a lot of places
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
@@Multihazardkerbecs yeah, you definitely have a point, though, I don't know if those gates hold Hashirama's Chakra after they are just lying there. The paper bombs could be more powerful than regular paper bombs, but we just don't know. Do you think Tobirama would have an easier time agasint Itachi than I mentioned in the video?
@ommprakash4816 Жыл бұрын
Experience is what every warrior needs and Tobirama has it.
@uchihaclan1356 Жыл бұрын
No they need more power and intelligence look at naruto vs kakauzu and third Raikage many more
@WEEBOTAKU493 Жыл бұрын
@@uchihaclan1356 bro i have to say Itachi fight way more powerful and stronger Shinobi than Tobirama. Age is not About experience.
@donovan4222 Жыл бұрын
Itachi does have experience though, he was an anbu captain, joined the Akatsuki and defeated a sanin by the time he was 12.
@treytison1444 Жыл бұрын
"He's not that fast, he's probably same tier as Raikage and KCM Naruto" Lol what
@SyedAli-gl7jq10 ай бұрын
He meant to say he is not as fast as madara,Minato or hashirama
@Shadowsmoke112 жыл бұрын
Man... I love these videos of yours. I have an suggestion for a versus video. Naruto vs Danzo. All of Naruto's forms, but I think the most interesting one would be if Sage Mode Naruto (when he fought Pain) would be able to defeat Danzo in a fight. Danzo was also nerfed in his fight against MS Sasuke (he couldn't use Shisui's sharingan in his right eye and had to hold back in order to save chakra to fight Tobi) so I think if the prowess of the Sharingan would give him a boost or an amp as he demostrated when killing the Land of Woods ninjas. I also get the feeling that Sage Mode Naruto might be a more favorable match-up due to Naruto lacking the Susano'o armor as Sasuke could defend himself from Danzo's constant Izanagi pressure. Also it would make sense in a story sense if Naruto and Danzo fought due to their conflicting ideals.
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Interesting topic you suggested! I'll have to reflect on it before making a video
@brodyday65092 жыл бұрын
Anything Danzo please
@raincoat43392 жыл бұрын
your a underrated power scaling youtuber u just earned yourself a sub!
@CeroHado Жыл бұрын
Tobirama doesn't get enough love! Thanks for this video
@KaibaSeto.2 жыл бұрын
Why would Tobirama fight his hero?
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
Why would he commit suicide he can't even beat tsunade lmao itachi whoops him
@KaibaSeto.2 жыл бұрын
@@jackson9034 Mate,we are talking Naruto here King of ass pull power ups Konohamaru beats Itachi if Kishimoto wants him to
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
@@KaibaSeto. yeah we are talking in combat tobirama is weak he loses to tsunade
@miketrujillo36777 ай бұрын
@KaibaSeto.naruto may be the crown prince, super Saiyan 234 blue red and (technically not) white would like your number
@shafeckbrown4962 жыл бұрын
No no. Tobirama has sensory also. U forgot about that.
@shafeckbrown4962 жыл бұрын
Edo Itachi not defeating Tobirama.
@SyedAli-gl7jq Жыл бұрын
@@shafeckbrown496edo itachi wins negative diff sick itachi already destroys that fodder tobirama is the weakest hokage even tsunade negs him
@danielalozie28113 ай бұрын
Young tobirama slaps Itachi low to mid diff,Tobirama tags juubito with raijin seal plus places 5 paper bombs on him in an instant,but Juubito claps Itachi in few seconds.
@killa540 Жыл бұрын
So your saying Tobirama the creator of Edo Tensei can't figure out how to defeat his own Jutsu?
@Andykeacher2 жыл бұрын
We want unique matchups! Keep up the great work
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
Any suggestions?
@idropNukes9992 жыл бұрын
@@DygoKnight can you do minato vs tobirama both alive and edo?
@binoblocka Жыл бұрын
@@DygoKnight can you consider Sage Kabuto vs Adult Sakura ??? Also "Masked Man" Obito(No Kurama) vs KCM1 Naruto
@rudybryan393 Жыл бұрын
The argument that tobirama is not as fast as Naruto or minato kcm is actually not true at all. Itachi shouldn't be able to evade flying raijin as it is not a direct attack but rather a surprise. Plus tobirama is extremely polivalent and mainly catches his opponent by surprise. Same for Itachi as well, none of them are gonna fight directly. One wrong move from each would be deciding.
@professionallycurious7372 Жыл бұрын
Waaah, congrats on making it to 100k subscribers!
@DygoKnight Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@Ojutai2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Enjoyed the ro music too 👍
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@johnandzelik32042 жыл бұрын
Wow, now this would be good. My money is on tobirama. Creator of shadow clones, creator of the flying (not even going to try and spell it) master of water, and completely aware of all the uchia are capable of. Itachi for all of his abilities and talent is outmatched
@TheTonytone772 жыл бұрын
literally nothing he can do against susanoo lol
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
@@TheTonytone77 edo itachi destroys tobirama 10/10
@Bgfire10002 жыл бұрын
@@TheTonytone77 he doesn’t have to, itachi not hitting tobirama with his susanoo and itachi can’t just stay in susanoo for hours. Tobirama can literally just send edo paper bombs or water dragons until itachi run out of chakra. I don’t think y’all realize how taxing it is for a uchiha without ems use their susanoo.
@TheTonytone772 жыл бұрын
@@Bgfire1000 so if both are alive where is tobirama getting edo paperbombs at retaard ....water dragon can be countered by basic fireballs ....also tobirama has to actually throw a kunai at itachi before flying raijin ...whats wrong with u ur sooooo fucking basic go back to school bro
@Bgfire10002 жыл бұрын
@@TheTonytone77 first off, why are you so butthurt and offensive and your simply just wrong. Tobirama created edo, he created the jutsu and used it with paper bombs. Meaning he doesn’t have to be edo to use it. He did t just make that jutsu up when he was edo. Next, water trumps fire for one, and tobirama not only has way more chakra than itachi but is also better at using water jutsu than itachi is at using fire, not counting Amaterasu because that’s not necessary a fire jutsu but a mgs jutsu. Tobirama is top 3 if not number 1 at water jutsu proficiency, yes he can create massive amounts of water out of nothing just like kisame. And again Tobirama has more chakra so he can send water dragons much more than itachi can send fire balls. Or he can just summon massive amount of water giving himself environment advantages. Lastly, tobirama can use ftg in other ways too, he don’t have to use them with kunai. Whatever he mark he can teleport to, it’s that simple. Kunai just gives him a medium to jump to. Just like what minato do except minato uses more kunai giving him more places to jump too. Btw you should not get so upset as to name calling just because itachi can’t beat someone. Y’all itachi tards be real sensitive
@mish87532 жыл бұрын
this is a very fair analysis, i agree that living tobirama would probably win most of the time and ya, edo itachi is next level
@tadabanri85732 жыл бұрын
Tobirama has +20 to all stats passive against Uchihas
@baronroy2012 Жыл бұрын
Considering Itachi's illness and stamina problems, Tobirama could probably win a battle of attrition. Especially since Tandem Paper Bomb would force Itachi to use the Susano'o or he'd get blown up.
@SyedAli-gl7jq10 ай бұрын
Tobirama would beat sick Itachi but healthy Itachi or Edo Itachi would beat tobirama
@dhanushs.s20932 жыл бұрын
I can see tobirama being an itachi fanboy 💀💀 Like the rest of us.......
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
Itachi won't make that weirdo his friend lmao even tsunade slams tobirama lmfao tobirama is the weakest hokage sick itachi negs that fodder edo itachi is a just plain overkill
@miathebarbie7544 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel dygo
@DygoKnight Жыл бұрын
Thanks🤗
@Andykeacher2 жыл бұрын
Great content. Better the swag Kage
@Isa-mm7xw2 жыл бұрын
Another great video man I didnt even see that much possibilities for Tobirama at first but you convinced me that there are some chances even though im not really sure if susanoo costs that much chakra to summon or maintain and if there is the possibility to just ,,Stall“ it out until itachis reserves are reaching their limit. And another question I could understand if you dont wanna compare every naruto character to itachi but I really would love to know what you say about DMS kakashi against itachi cuz im thinking about it for a while and I cant come to any result
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I can definitely make a video on DMS Kakashi! Although comparing him to Itachi would not be fair. DMS Kakashi is one of the strongest characters in the series.
@bryan76232 жыл бұрын
dms kakashi is 2nd strongest in shippuden right behind kaguya bro
@anshvardhan57442 жыл бұрын
@@bryan7623 bruh its a little too much 😂
@yujirogoggins43892 жыл бұрын
@@anshvardhan5744 I don't know bro, DMS Kakashi is fucking broken. He's intangible just like Obito, pretty much in the same tier of speed as Minato, has Kamui shuriken and Perfect Susano'o, plus his Kamui is stronger than Obito's, because he can remain intangible and warp people away at the same time, because of him having 2 MS. When we look at the pure abilities of the characters, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to assume DMS Kakashi being the second strongest in the series if you want me to be completely honest with you.
@yujirogoggins43892 жыл бұрын
DMS Kakashi is way, way, way stronger than any version of Itachi, but Itachi still has a chance if Kakashi becomes overconfident and gets hit with Tsukuyomi before he can act, assuming Kakashi can't break out of it even with Six Paths chakra.
@rakshitkhullar22872 жыл бұрын
The tantrum paper bombs blew up the strongest deity gate which holded juubi and you are saying that won't effect sussano?
@ActuallyAlask2 жыл бұрын
yes he is. Which is hilarious lol. Dygo is like 4 years behind on Tobirama scaling.
@TheTonytone772 жыл бұрын
no damage to yata mirror bruh
@ActuallyAlask2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTonytone77 If i drop a nuke on someone and they are holding an indestructible shield will it protect them? No. The shield wont get destroyed sure but the person is getting destroyed
@TheTonytone772 жыл бұрын
@@ActuallyAlask uhhhh paper bombs arent a nuke first of all ....second yata mirror is a shield the nagates all forms of damage plus susanoos normal body defense so iam not sure what ur talking about
@ActuallyAlask2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTonytone77 Wow tonytone you have a brilliant point. Paper Bombs ARENT nukes! Crazy. But guess what? the point of an analogy is that it takes two different things and compares them to illustrate an idea. The yata mirror IS A shield that the susanoo holds that deflects attacks. the mirror only blocks things coming at it from one direction. Its just like any other shield except its indestructible.
@killa540 Жыл бұрын
Sasuke broke the Tsukyomi with only a Sharingan and some hate. Tobirama can do the same with only the hate. Tobirama wins!
@MrJAMESTAKER2 жыл бұрын
Itachi stands no chance against Tobirama Alive full power or even Edo I’m not saying that Tobirama is a God tier character like the likes of Hashirama, Minato, Or Madara but dude seriously he invented the formula to beating sharingan users in both Ninjutsu and Genjutsu he not only have the ability to sense but has the ability to mask his charka we all know he’s stronger enough to break outta genjutsu and knows how to fight against it he’s fast enough to dodge itachis susanoo and Amaterasu so what does Itachi have that could beat Tobirama like honestly remember Tobirama wasn’t at his full complete powers during the 4th great ninja war None of the Kage were
@anshvardhan57442 жыл бұрын
He never said that edo was his prime he was talking about his prime state all of the video
@anshvardhan57442 жыл бұрын
Tobirama cannot run fast he can only teleport and he said in the video itachi is on a higher level on genjutsu than any other uchiha and he has the Tsukoyomi which tobirama has no counter to. Edo itachi can spam these things and he will not get tired where prime tobirama will at some point
@anshvardhan57442 жыл бұрын
Even when tobirama is in a simple finger genjutsu then itachi can quickly hit him with totsuka Or amaterasu
@lokinot1232 жыл бұрын
Tobirama got killed by ginkaku and kinkaku who were probably around zabuza level. Sick itachi lose to tobirama but Edo or prime itach will win against tobirama
@Jashinsama87282 жыл бұрын
Itachi has the Totsuka blade to seal Tobirama after all Kinkaku and Ginkaku seals him with the Rikudo weapon. Sarutobi seals him also so that mean sealing weapon is the weakness of Tobirama. Sarutobi manage to catch Tobirama who is said to be the fastest Ninja.
@VexSD2 жыл бұрын
Itachi could keep up with Naruto because he was an edo, Itachi lacked Stamina, Not speed. And Reanimated people get Infinite stamina, thats what itachi needs
@zetsumi4160 Жыл бұрын
Biggest thing I think people overlook about Tobirama is that he's a thinker, not a fighter. He's strong, sure. But we've seen not one, not two, but three extremely powerful jutsu he created, but that it took others (Naruto, Orochimaru and Minato) to actually perfect, eliminate the flaws, and use to their fullest extent. He's creative and intelligent, but this demonstrates he falls short when it comes to practical application. It's a shame this often gets ignored, as it's a really interesting element of his character, showing him as a man more fit for leading armies and strategy than he is for one-on-one combat, unlike many Naruto characters.
@Alrokako Жыл бұрын
So is Itachi
@zerodai6653 Жыл бұрын
What u mean not a fighter? He fought against madara and killed madara's brother in front of him . He definitely is a fighter
@RaytheGrayt Жыл бұрын
@@zerodai6653 Especially in his, Hashirama, and Madara's lifetime where fighting was all they did every single day of their lives. He is most definitely a fighter, don't know what this guy is talking about lol
@guypomnongsan671 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video about Tobirama vs Hokage Naruto without Kurama
@KawakiUzumaki-n8e8 күн бұрын
This video should have been called "Can Itachi beat Tobirama"
@th3ra83 Жыл бұрын
According to the patch note Tobirama would get +100% Aspd, 270% Attack 270% Defense if the opponent is Uchiha so.....
@Alrokako Жыл бұрын
Why do people always use Itachi fighting KCM Naruto as a speed feat? Naruto wasnt using the level of speed against him as A and They werent fighting seriously Naruto was telling Itachi about Sasuke.
@SyedAli-gl7jq10 ай бұрын
Nope it was Itachi was holding back he didn't wanna kill Naruto Naruto got no diffed by nagato and Itachi had to save him Edo Itachi carried against nagato Edo Itachi stomps kcm Naruto low to mid diff
@Alrokako10 ай бұрын
@@SyedAli-gl7jq don't k ow what fight you were watching Nagato didn't kill anyone. All three of them blew up Chibaku tensei and Itachi managed to sneak behind Nagato to seal him with totsuka blade. He was the weakest link in that fight an would've gotten trashed by KCM Naruto. So spare me your delusions
@SyedAli-gl7jq10 ай бұрын
@@Alrokakohe still destroyed nagato he only need them to destroy chubaku tensei if it wasn't for chubaku tensei then Itachi would have beaten nagato by himself that is why nagato used chubaku tensei bc he knew he couldn't beat Itachi without it but he destroyed kcm Naruto with no difficulty even without chubaku tensei and Itachi only used one yasaka beads he is capable of using multiple yasaka beads as shown against kabuto he could have destroyed chubaku tensei by himself if he used multiple but he was teaching Naruto about teamwork
@plavsk6 ай бұрын
@@Alrokako 1.wrong naruto was clearly scared of itachi, there is no reason fro him to be holding back in every naruto fight characters talk ( for example sasuke vs danzo) and they still went all out itachi fights equally with killer bee ( as fast as kcm1 naruto and the raikage) and also ems sasuke (said to be kcm narutos equal) itachi also only activated his base sharingan ( we know that the better the sharingan, the better reaction time like in the sasuke vs naruto fight in part 1) and he was also nerfed yb edo tensei so alive itachi with an ms would be even faster than edo itachi ps: edo itachi stomps kcm1 naruto
@Alrokako6 ай бұрын
@@plavsk Makes sense when you talk otherwise why bother
@MrTrip66620 күн бұрын
Personally, I'd give this match up to Tobirama Senju. It would be a tough fight for both, as both have a great skill set and IQ but lord second just slightly has a better advantage in battle IQ, speed, and durability and a huge advantage in stamina being a senju and all. If both were Edo, then things could potentially be different with Itachi having Totsuka and Tobirama having no way of sealing Itachi, however, i assume Tobirama has a trump card under his sleeve being the creator of Edo Tensei. He knows the jutsu better than anyone and the hand signs to possibly undo Itachi's edo.
@fexyt57252 жыл бұрын
If we just take feats,Tobirama wins. If we talk about a real fight I think Tobirama would still win because he is the perfect Uchiha counter. Sorry for my bad English,i am from germany.
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
What type of counter do you mean? I think Itachi would have options to fight Tobirama with
@fexyt57252 жыл бұрын
@@DygoKnight Hiraishin because the Sharingan isn’t fast enough. Suiton because its stronger than katon. The Paperbomb jutsu to possible damage a Susanoo. And btw I mean Uchiha Counter and not Itachi,maybe Amaterasu would work but it’s really slow compared to Tobirama.
@michaelcrouch8809 Жыл бұрын
@@fexyt5725thank you for someone showing at least some knowledge. Madara I think even stated that people of the new generation are weak compared to the war era he grew up in. Also didn’t tobirama kill a healthy uchiha with a mongekyo? So how would a sick low chakra itachi be any different
@Scornfull Жыл бұрын
Tobirama doesn't have any feats but Itachi does lol
@Scornfull Жыл бұрын
@@michaelcrouch8809 Tobirama got his ass beat by characters that casually got destroyed by a side character dude you shouldn't be saying how others have no knowledge when you don't even know that 💀
@noctiscaelum51252 жыл бұрын
No Uchiha surpassed Itachi's genjutsu besides Shisui so it would be hard to Tobirama
@blaykay-47972 жыл бұрын
Yeah good luck to Itachi trying get that dude TOBIRAMA in a genjutsu
@noctiscaelum51252 жыл бұрын
@@blaykay-4797 Tobirama fought with Uchiha's with normal genjutsu's, not like Tsukuyomi. More like good luck for Tobirama
@SHQIPEGHO5T2 жыл бұрын
Tobirama is gonna eat his eyes or not actually they cannot fight each other they would be friends the moment they know each other Tobirama is gonna (eat his eyes) and make him hokage as simple as that
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
You really think itachi will make that weirdo his friend itachi mid diffs him as sick healthy itachi or edo itachi stomps him no diff
@danielalozie28113 ай бұрын
Young tobirama slaps Itachi low to mid diff,Tobirama tags juubito with raijin seal plus places 5 paper bombs on him in an instant,but Juubito claps Itachi in few seconds.
@saul_goodman39322 жыл бұрын
Itachi susanoo wouldn't tabk tobiramas tandem paper bombs. We saw it destroy a sage hashirama deity gate that withstood 10 tails bijuu bombs, subdued the 10 tails and edo madara.
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
Go meat ride tobirama
@saul_goodman39322 жыл бұрын
@Syed Ali go ride itachi
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
@@saul_goodman3932 tobirama is so weak kisame,minato,pain,itachi(good health)are beat that fodder edo itachi is overkill
@Adikesh772 жыл бұрын
Bruh he already defeated a ms user,nd he can teleport susano right? Nd his multiple explosive random bombs
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
Izuna was dumb
@Bgfire10002 жыл бұрын
@@jackson9034 how was izuna dumb? Give 2 examples of dumb things he did?
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
@@Bgfire1000 izuna is a featless fodder literally got marker and had no idea
@Bgfire10002 жыл бұрын
@@jackson9034 still waiting for the 2 examples of izuna being dumb. Also btw y’all use fodder to loosely. A uchiha with mgs is never fodder. Also it was stated izuna was close in strength to madara when he was alive. Hashirama, madara, tobirama and izuna were the strongest at that time. So you would be implying that madara before ems was fodder too. He went from fodder to a tier after he got ems. Name one uchiha mgs user who is fodder
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
@@Bgfire1000 he was not old databooks are wrong he was stated to be second to madara but hashirama and madara were always far ahead of tobirama and izuna plus no one of them were in their prime ms madara has no feats to be considered stronger than alive itachi ems madara is a different story sasuke with ems fought alongside kcm 2 sage mode naruto again jubbiobito contributing equally to the fight sasuke became a beast with ems madara got so op only because of ems ms madara is featless and FTG has many limitations
@rijan7902 жыл бұрын
Let's not bring Reincarnated Tobirama and Itachi. Prime Tobirama vs Prime Itachi. Tobirama would clap Itachi. Tobirama whole fighting style was related to how to counter Uchiha. Imagine, multiple shadow clones using Teleportation Jutsu. He created flying raijin, shadow clone, mastered the water style top tier jutsu to counter the Uchiha fire style. Bruh could use reanimation, and infinite paper Bomb jutsu. Imagine a reincarnated body doing suicidal infinite paper Bomb jutsu, that's terrifying. Plus he is the fucking Senju. Dude has chakra reserve nearly as much as tailed beast, his physical feats are way way more. Plus dude is used to fighting against Uchiha. He also killed the second strongest uchiha who had mangekyo sharingan. Dude is probably one of the best sensory ninja in the verse and one of the best strategist. He has much experience. Anyone who say Itachi wins is just fanboy who is ignoring the fact. Plus Itachi can't use mangekyo for a long time, he has low stamina. No way he can beat Tobirama.
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
Cry fanboy edo itachi is prime itachi He would slap tobirama tobirama is an overrated fodder he has nothing to be placed over minato
@rijan7902 жыл бұрын
@@SyedAli-gl7jq edo Itachi?💀 How can someone be prime after death???? He wasn't even supposed to exist. Tobirama slams Itachi anytime. Both alive or both at edo.
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
@@rijan790 prime itachi means his strongest form what is the water gun to do against amaterasu the best fire technique cry tobirama fans base minato is equal to tobirama and yes both can mid to high diff itachi but sage mode minato and edo itachi both would slap tobirama 💀cry
@rijan7902 жыл бұрын
@@SyedAli-gl7jq mate, you do realize right, that Tobirama had been fighting and defeating Uchihas almost half his life. Tobirama killed the second strongest uchiha who had a mangekyo.Tobirama probably knows more about Sharingan more than Itachi💀😆. His whole fighting revolves around countering Uchihas. Itachi was powerful but as powerful as Tobirama? No. Tobirama is faster, stronger, more intelligient, has massive chakra pools equal or nearly as strong as tailed beast. Water gun???? You do realize right Tobirama is the strongest water user in Naruto. He has massive chakra to change the whole landscape. He has teleportation, hidden mist to counter genjutsu.Dude had shadow clones,Water Dragon as big as Itachi susano, He fucking discovered Edo tensei, shadow clones, Teleportation, infinite paper Bomb and many others jutsu which were sealed because they were too strong and dangerous.lmao Lmao, Itachi when alive could barely use mangekyo for few minutes. All those Izanagi, Izanami, totsuka blade, he could have never pulled that off without unlimited chakra reserve of edo tensei. Itachi would just die if he pulled of any of those move while he wad alive,he was that fragile. So I don't even see that as Itachi power. Dude didn't get the chakra and strong Physical body to pull of his own move. Even in Edo mode, Tobirama has jutsu to overpower him. Imagine Edo Tobirama doing edo tensei and also adding Infinite paper Bomb Jutsu to his reanimation.Tobirama would just create the whole fucking army of undead 💀😆. Itachi is so fucked up. Tobirama is the worst match up for any Uchiha rather than Madara and Tobi.
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
@@rijan790 tobirama lost to kingaku and ginkaku he is fked by base minato😂😂😂😂
@rahstylz28 күн бұрын
Just my opinion but this will be a battle of stamina. Itachi’s eye running out of power vs tobirama being able to spam FTG. Both are chakra consuming. Izuna was the second best uchiha of his time and Itachi is (allegedly) second best of his time.
@dungeon-wn4gw2 жыл бұрын
The Second Hokage would fuck Itachi up pretty badly. He can flood the battlefield and get under Itachi's Susanoo. If he is a far enough distance away, he can react to Amaterasu coming at him and deflect it with water shields and he can also instant teleport to dodge. He would know Itachi is an uchiha just from sensing his signature and would promptly avoid any eye contact. Itachi's non-sharingan genjutsu is only shown to be above the level of base early Shippuden Naruto and Tobirama is leagues superior. If Tobirama gets a Flying Raijin marking anywhere near Itachi he blitzes with Flying Raijin Slice. Itachi's regular Fire Style gets negged. His shurikenjutsu gets negged by Tobirama's environmental advantage from Water Style. Super Clone Explosion Jutsu gets avoided with Flying Raijin and Tobirama would detect the real Itachi anyway.
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
Lmao kinkaku and ginkaku fked tobirama up really badly tsunade would stomp him sick itachi is a cakewalk🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dungeon-wn4gw2 жыл бұрын
@@jackson9034 Kin and Gin have no anti feats
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
@@dungeon-wn4gw lost to darui lmao tobirama only has a couple water jutsu he does not compare to hokage minato pain 6 paths whoops tobirama mid diff 10/10 times edo itachi no diffs him
@dungeon-wn4gw2 жыл бұрын
@@jackson9034 Darui never fought full power Kinkaku and Ginkaku.
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
@@dungeon-wn4gw he did those transformed kinkaku and ginkaku lmao they lost so easily to some weak shinobi tobirama is fodder he lost to them
@Ajwad99 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that we still haven’t seen Itachi going all out with a killing intent
@Kawaki_anime Жыл бұрын
Edo tensei doesn't provides u unlimited chakra , if it does tha tobirama would have made more clones than only 2 in war and hashirama wouldn't have needed 4 fellow hokages to start red barrier seal
@IrishTortillaCody Жыл бұрын
No it doesn't give you unlimited chakra. Ex:[edo itachi still wouldn't be able to use majestic destroyer flame] but it does give you instantly refilling chakra
@DavidLucian2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Unpredictable, each of them could win, both have real and almost equal chances to win, you said that you studied Itachi in detail, but no, that's right, if you reevaluated and revised Itachi's confrontations you would notice that in each of his confrontations he always kept his composure and never fought to his true potential, his calmness, intelligence and battle IQ experience are very unique and underrated, you underestimate Itachi's abilities too much, and especially the Sharingan, Zetsu who was part of Kaguya's time until Naruto's present stated very clearly in the anime that Itachi would be almost Invincible because Itachi's Susano'o owns Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror, and it's not just about that, his speed and his reaction and perception of analysis are very unique, not for nothing did Granny Chiyo tell Kakashi, Naruto and Sakura in the anime that fighting an Uchiha 1 Vs 1 will put you at a disadvantage (watch Episode 13 of Naruto Shippuden and try listening to what Granny Chiyo says about the Uchiha clan) ☯️
@TurtleTrader2 жыл бұрын
You've done your homework. Itachi was so overwhelmingly skilled and had such a good understanding of tactics that Kishimoto had to nerf him to push the story forwards. Tobirama probably loses 7 or 8 times out of 10.
@DavidLucian2 жыл бұрын
@@TurtleTrader For me Itachi is one of the most Unique characters from the series because he didn't go all out against anyone during the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️
@rkvlegacy92062 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLucian Itachi is indeed a misunderstood character battle-wise. He has never gone all out and ONLY Minato has shown similar composure in battle. They are regarded as once in a generation genius and Itachi excels at exploiting weaknesses and sustaining the most minimal injury possible. He is probably the best analysis expert also as he makes deducting the opponents moves and intentions look easy all while countering all their jutsu. Tobirama has his advantages but both are Kage level Shinobi and their is a reason Tobirama feared the Uchiha.
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLucian yes bro i agree with everything you said but now read the whole thing i say itachi's has amazing hax like amaterasu(which burns everything other flames included and only raikage's speed level characters can dodge it)tsukuyomi which works on every non six path characters and ems characters(as ems>ms)his chakra reserves are actually quite massive rewatch his fight with sasuke he was using high level abilities a lot and was actually wasting most of his abilities trying not to kill sasuke he outlasted sasuke and clapped orochimaru's strongest form when 90 percent dead itachi had probably 20 percent more chakra than sasuke(reincarnation of indra)imagine if that was a 90 percent dead itachi an itachi not on his death bed would have much more chakra than that his chakra reserves were actually very high now i am not saying he has more chakra than hasirama but he has quite massive chakra reserves and could use his ms all the time even after his hell like sickness his biggest strength however remains his hax,reaction time/combat speed and his battle iq(his reaction speed/combat speed is superior to or equal to minato if you want manga proof feel free to ask me)his hax are one of the best among non six path users his battle iq is insane like minato he has shown insane spontaneous thinking if itachi is healthy his chakra reserves would be absolutely massive like minato as his sickness was like hell way worse than most think i have no doubt he'd beat minato or tobirama(one on one)with high to extreme diff his potential was also insane his growth stopped after he got sickness at 13 or 14 until that his growth was insane you see shinobi like madara and hasirama showed incredible growth from 13 to 25 these absolutely crucial years were wasted and itachi never seeked if he was not sick and seeked power like madara he could get the ems train himself during those years and become the strongest Uchiha of all time you see ems provides a much more significant boost than most people think it increases your chakra exponentially as evident with sasuke(he had low chakra before ems but later on he spammed his abilities a lot and was never close to running out of chakra itachi would have his raw power and chakra Strength and chakra reserves exponentially increased due to his emotions that the case with every Uchiha but with itachi its the most intensive as he had suffered a lot he would feel much deeper emotions the power boost from the ems and no sickness would be much much more significant than most people think he'd awaken the perfect susanoo and train himself and become the strongest Uchiha or even the stronger shinobi(surpassing naruto) nevertheless itachi even after his sickness remains the one of the strongest non six path users only behind hasirama tobirama and minato
@ghostoftheuchiha526 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama wins 8-9/10 times vs Itachi (strongest form/healthy or whatever).......simple
@Fishsticks-sv7kq2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the the Tobirama 10x racist buff against Uchiha
@scelothalalisani1488Ай бұрын
Tobirama showed it clearly that when it comes to sharingan directly . He wasn't good at it .
@joacosdr66 ай бұрын
Tobirama killed Izuna, a mangekyo sharingan user who was very close to Madara's power
@danielalozie28113 ай бұрын
Young tobirama slaps Itachi low to mid diff,Tobirama tags juubito with raijin seal plus places 5 paper bombs on him in an instant,but Juubito claps Itachi in few seconds.
@Tobirama_isHimju2 жыл бұрын
I don't see anyone beating Tobirama other than Hashirama. They purposely ignored him for the sake of the story.
@dawitfekadu182 жыл бұрын
a lot of ninja would absolutely mop the floor with tobirama.
@baywatchkrabs13982 жыл бұрын
@@dawitfekadu18 nope dumb
@Tobirama_isHimju2 жыл бұрын
@@dawitfekadu18 Zero proof.
@Tobirama_isHimju2 жыл бұрын
@Carinaud Ricardo You mean Hashirama can’t compare to Tobirama. Who do you think created the ninja system?
@Bgfire10002 жыл бұрын
@Carinaud Ricardo tobirama is not stronger than hashirama obviously or madara but he is stronger than a lot. Him creating the ninja academy is not what makes him a genius. It’s all the ninjutsu he created. Ftg, edo, and shadow clone are all op jutsus. Infact it’s not to many better jutsus that dnt require a kekkie genkia (excuse spelling). He was stated to be the best water user and could create water out of nothing like kisame. He defeated a mgs user with a move he created to counter it. Even in the war ark he put up a better fight than almost anyone besides hashirama, sasuke and naruto not included. Only Guy and hashirama faired better. Now I repeat he not stronger than hashirama but he is smarter and he beats a lot of characters including alive itachi. And dnt forget Tobirama was weaker in his edo state, imagine a blood lusted tobirama ?
@Ajax10633 ай бұрын
This is all speculation but the HUGE problem I see here is what version of each character are we talking about? Because the older Itachi gets the more skilled he becomes BUT his stamina also goes downhill because of the chakra disease. So a "good" version is needed for Itachi, such as the version of him in Part 1 of Naruto. Where he is sick but isn't as sick. Secondly, and I think many people are forgetting this, Tobirama has numerous years of experience, probably close to 20, fighting and killing Uchihas. Thus, his jitsu set are anti-Uchiha and anti-MS. Meaning that going into the battle, especially if you scale Itachi to alive Madara or right under like Izun, Tobirama will go into the battle much more confident than Itachi. I'm also not buying the "as fast as Naruto with a cloak" feat for Itachi because that's clearly the manga/anime trying to tell us/show us a good story. Naruto sucks when it comes to consistency and Naruto was definitely faster than Itachi at that power level, and if the writers bothered to give Naruto hai real speed during that fight than we wouldn't have a Itachi vs Naruto fight or not a good one because it would have been over too quickly. Hence, they slowed Naruto down so they can both chat and build drama. Going back to the Tobirama and Itachi fight, remember that Tobirama faced many Uchiha on the battlefield and still survived after so many years of battle. Meaning his base speed even without teleporting had to be fast or fast enough to survive for so long. Lastly, I think what needs to be established before further speculation is if we're talking about their alive forms or their Edo forms, and what points in time are we comparing, and lastly how much do they know about each other. Because let's say it's an alive Tobirama before his death and Itachi in part 1, then Itachi would have a slight advantage because Itachi knows who he is fighting and the expected jitsus and power set from the 2nd Hokage. It's like giving Itachi the playbook on his opponent. Whereas, Tobirama would be fighting an unknown Uchiha, as Itachi was born way after Tobirama had died. Thus, are you also going to take a moment to tell Tobirama all about Itachi and his abilities? Because that seems fair. Or are we assuming that neither knows nothing about one another? You see how easily this can sway back and forth between the two options with no clear winner. This is an interesting topic but there's no way to know for sure.
@purplelightwolf741 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama wins 10/10 times against Sick Itachi. Peak Tobirama wins 8/10 times against Peak Itachi. Edo Tobirama wins 6/10 times against Edo Itachi. Using Madara dodging Tobirama, the man who solo'd the Tailed Beasts and was amped significantly at the time, is not an anti-feat for Tobirama's speed lol. You reached so much with this analysis. Wanking Itachi's intelligence, wanking the fact Itachi has Mangekyo when it's fact that Tobirama was taking out people with Mangekyo before his prime, inventing anti-feats for Tobirama's speed etc. Then this whole "Oh but Edo Tensai eliminates Itachis main weakness" but ignoring the fact Tobirama also becomes wildly more difficult to deal with is just... lol.
@SyedAli-gl7jq Жыл бұрын
Lmao tsunade slams tobirama tobirama is the weakest hokage sick itachi one shots that fodder negative diff
@purplelightwolf741 Жыл бұрын
@@SyedAli-gl7jq Every single frat displayed by Tobirama makes him nearly impossible for Tsunade to put down. You're so wrong.
@SyedAli-gl7jq10 ай бұрын
@@purplelightwolf741have you seen tsunade in the war arc💀fought evenly with madara subsided madara's op fire style as if it's nothing tsunade is stronger than pain kishimoto stated she beats tobirama she loses to hokage Minato by a hair
@dakotatrue12 Жыл бұрын
A lot of what you say about Tobirama in this video is pure speculative. Madara said Tobirama was the fastest shinobi of his time. Which means hes faster than Madara. What you dont seem to understand is that edo tensei nerfs base stats. Not only that, but Madara also had rinnegan and hashirama cells. At that point, he was stronger than he was when he was actually alive. Plus he wasnt edo tensei anymore, so all his base stats were back up. You say that Tobirama isnt that fast, yet he was called the fastest shinobi ever during his time. How does that make sense???
@gureedoteam5632 Жыл бұрын
They are both geniuses, although tobirama has obviously created many more techniques himself, which works to his advantage :) in a normal situation, by the time itachi fired susano, he would have already lost, Susano consumes a gigantic amount of energy, so tobirama would just wait, and because he spent his whole life fighting Uchiha, he knows how to deal with them :)
@sarobidydragneel2179 Жыл бұрын
No actual fact just supposition based on what was said about him, I don't see any of his techniques shown and known in the mangas potent enough to actually finish Itachi off or get through susanoo while I only have one question, how will Tobirama be able to counter or escape a genjutsu that doesn't need eye contact and that controls directly your brain into doing things you think are your own actions and if you didn't know what I mean, I'm referring to the Kotoamatsukami implanted in one of his crows.
@ghostoftheuchiha526 Жыл бұрын
Exactly Itachi simps act like Susanoo is even doing something against mobile characters in the series and here it is tobirama alr ady with ftg Itachi can't do shit to him while Tobirama has a lot of ways to clap Itachi
@sarobidydragneel2179 Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of Tobiratards acrually thinking Tobirama got something on Itachi lmao. Apart from from Hashirama, no senju has been shown or known to resist genjutsu, Uchihas such as Sasuke, Madara has shown they are more than capable of reacting to high speed attacks or even hiraishin and there are many more ways to smash him.
@donovan4222 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't consume that much energy given Itachi was able to use it for a long time even after a prolonged battle with Sasuke. He was still able to use it to block Kirin, and defeat orochimaru. Plus I think Itachi's battle IQ would mean he isn't wasting Susanoo unless he absolutely needs it. Tobirama doesn't have that many attacks that would force him to use it.
@Scandaledits9742 жыл бұрын
I would never battle itachi. Iam the 1st fan of Itachi
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@noctiscaelum51252 жыл бұрын
No one dares to battle Itachi Even Obito ran away
@Scandaledits9742 жыл бұрын
@@noctiscaelum5125 accept sasuke 🤣
@noctiscaelum51252 жыл бұрын
@@Scandaledits974 why would I accept Sasuke?
@Scandaledits9742 жыл бұрын
@@noctiscaelum5125 no Iam saying that sasuke is the only one who wants to battle itachi.
@jonathanjones95797 ай бұрын
Where is it stated that the 20 ninja were S rank?
@auraconora39962 жыл бұрын
If u look at tobirama feats there’s nothing in his aresanal as more powerful then Itachi Totsku blade and yata mirror, I don’t see tobirama stopping nagato and sealing him
@ActuallyAlask2 жыл бұрын
Itachi stopped and sealed Nagato with the help of Bee and Naruto and off guarding Nagato.
@ActuallyAlask2 жыл бұрын
Tobirama would yank Itachi out of his Susanoo and fuck him up.
@auraconora39962 жыл бұрын
@@ActuallyAlask Itachi can move while using his susanoo sorry bro but dude is too op
@ActuallyAlask2 жыл бұрын
@@auraconora3996 ...in lower Susanoo forms. So more room for Tobirama to infiltrate it, more of a dub for the Second Hokage.
@Scornfull Жыл бұрын
@@ActuallyAlask If Itachi in Edo could keep up with KCM 1 Naruto without having the intent to kill and not even being able to control his own body then he curb stomps Tobirama since he died to fodder ass characters
@Andykeacher2 жыл бұрын
Want daily videos with these great matchups
@DygoKnight2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, thanks! Daily videos are rough, but I am doing my best to keep a consistent flow!
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
@@DygoKnight hey listen to me don't give a fk to those who hate you for your opinion like tobirama and jiraya tards they have nothing else to do we all agree with your analysis these haters can't do anything but cry
@MajorTom42 жыл бұрын
Sick Itachi is a good matchup for Tobirama.
@Wodagazowana50002 жыл бұрын
Xd
@ActuallyAlask2 жыл бұрын
No its not
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
Sick itachi Already wins edo itachi is overkill
@ajayimoses24952 жыл бұрын
Sick itachi makes it fair for tobirama honestly
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
@@ajayimoses2495 sick itachi is already overkill😂
@sarobidydragneel2179 Жыл бұрын
Very good analysis but most people tend to forget that alive and healthy Itachi had and could use Shuisui's Kotoamatsukami which was on one of his crows if he wanted to, it does not require eye contact but just the opponent to be in the crow field of view then it's game over. That ability is a one time shot but a game changer and is one of his arsenal even if a borrowed power he gets to choose the order he wants to implant into it such as kill yourself or whatever without the opponent realizing anything.
@ghostoftheuchiha526 Жыл бұрын
Kotoamatsukami is not his owm power so that dosen't even count lmao + Tobirama is a sensory type he would know before the uchiha commence the genjutsu
@ghostoftheuchiha526 Жыл бұрын
+has a frezze period of 10 years
@sarobidydragneel2179 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostoftheuchiha526 lol, of course it does count since it's an arsenal of his own after Shisui entrusted it to him so are you gonna say that the double MS and all the hax abilities Kakashi got do not count in a versus cuz it ain't his don't be a tobiratard and just accept that he will be blasted and sensory type or not does not change a damn thing, you get caught in it and it's over. Only thing you can do is cry some more 😂
@ghostoftheuchiha526 Жыл бұрын
@@sarobidydragneel2179 Nope I really can't stop the tears after seeing how much of a dumbass you really are 🤣🤣.......... Kotoamatsukami is definitely out of question you Itachi simps only bring it because you have nothing left with 😂 + Sensory abiliy does much more than your brain cells have done with you ..........sensory ninja can detect the slightest change of chakra and chakra type and genjutsu always works by affecting the chakra network and here it was Tobirama was was able to tell the exact info on the enemy sitting on another nation lol at least use your head 🤧🤦🏻♀️........or maybe u have only watched reels 🤡
@WEEBOTAKU493 Жыл бұрын
@@sarobidydragneel2179 fr
@silentfate8 күн бұрын
If its itachi. I dont think he wouldnt know a bit of how tobirama fought. While it may not be the most detailed history, there should be a profile on his fighting style, maybe habits, or jutsu names without explanations at least. Itachi should have some basic knowledge or even some knowledge about anti uchiha strategies.
@enigmaticweirdo38552 жыл бұрын
end of the day its all what he imagines so stop comparing a god of shinobi with itachi who never been in a war bcoz all outcomes are your imagination not facts...! tobirama wins according to the writer , anime , manga so stop this shit.
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
Lmao god of shinobi💀lost to 2 fodders kinkaku and ginkaku hashirama is the god of shinobi tobirama is not even half of that lmao tobirama is probably the weakest hokage sick itachi stomps tobirama
@danielalozie28116 ай бұрын
Tobirama slaps both sick and edo itachi, he sliced izuna,whom is second strongest uchiha after madara at that time. Plus he is one of the strongest kages in that universe, the other hogakes are not touching prime tobirama lolz,apart from hashirama, naruto and maybe minato,tobirama claps hiruzen,tsunade,kakashi. Bringer of darkness jutsu (people seem to forget this) is a feat on its own,who is itachi genjutsuing when this hqppens lolz, interesting fight anyway..
@SunDragon243 Жыл бұрын
But remember when tobirama was Edo tensei he only had half is full power along with the other hokage
@jason15212 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama also didn’t have chakra when he died
@prasadjadhav3906 Жыл бұрын
Sooo ... how did naruto know about itachi's powers?
@realtalk5347 Жыл бұрын
I think people need to stop giving, who Uchihas automatic victories just because we have the Sharingan.
@enigmaticweirdo38552 жыл бұрын
amaetrasu wont even touch him he has whole anoter level of chakra sheild
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
Lmao fanboys of tobirama
@ajayimoses24952 жыл бұрын
🤣😂 Chakra shield?? You’re stoned at this point bruh
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
@@ajayimoses2495 that chakra sheild could not block kin and gin
@sonicplays8740 Жыл бұрын
@@jackson9034 He has gotten into a battle against those two while they had a whole squad.
@jackson9034 Жыл бұрын
@@sonicplays8740 they did not have a strong squad kin and gin were leaders they were the main threat those 18 shinobi were fodders kin and gin are low kage level fodders tobirama lost to them
@ajayimoses24952 жыл бұрын
Bro you forgot about Izanagi, Exploding shadow clones Crow genjutsu It’s the little things that count in this fight Honestly itachi is just as fast or faster in body movements than tobirama as As kakashi even hebi sasuke who was >>> most uchiha due to the orochimaru barely reacted to itachi’s shushin and hand seals He reacted to sage kabuto every time EMS sasuke couldn’t even react.. His kicks and punches are always superhuman too Part 1 Kicks an adult jonin several meters on a lake Kicks sasuke the entire length of the hotel corridor Stops sasuke’s chidori thrust with one hand Part2 His 30% CLONE Stops kakashi’s chidori thrust with one hand His 30% CLONE stalemated kakashi and naruto while holding back He blitzed hebi sasuke when he showed his true speed for a while during the fight And kicked him making a crater on the uchiha hideout wall His punches created shockwaves when blocked by kcm1 naruto And his kicks created craters on the ground He blinded and blitzed nagato just after nagato blitzed bee and kcm1 naruto He activated sussano faster than EMS sasuke was able to react during the kabuto fight Honestly the only non-sixpaths person outright out speeding him possibly in shushin is minato
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat Жыл бұрын
Edo Tensei is such a weird broken ability. I mean why do people get STRONGER when they are dead? Yeah, it's technically explained but it's such a weird decision.
@SyedAli-gl7jq10 ай бұрын
Only Itachi,nagato and Minato got stronger Itachi cause no sickness,nagato cause he also got rid of his weak body and Minato ofc cause of kcm
@mxolijacobs5056 Жыл бұрын
I love fair and honest debates about characters but this seemed like an Itachi Fanboy trashing The second fastest ninja ever. Tobirama blitz a whole Izuna Uchiha who had mangyeko sharingan and was said to be as strong as Madara at the time. Yet his comparable in speed to Itachi?..How does even begin to make sense.Itachi was never known for speed and Shisui was even faster than him with body flicker alone. Yet somehow without his Rajin Itachi is relative to Tobirama. Nah Fam u capping..I love Itachi as much as the next fan but Tobirama is above his weight class. The man was snacking on Uchihas for breakfast for most of his life. The man was said to be the best water style user ever yet Itachi fire Jutsu’s will keep up..nah Fam
@ArcadeMW Жыл бұрын
Cool hypothetical, but fight would never happen cuz tobirama is itachis biggest fan
@alanviniciuswanderleytavar4399 Жыл бұрын
Funny to think that itachi is the only one who is stronger as a Edo tensei than the rest of the Edo characters
@SyedAli-gl7jq Жыл бұрын
Healthy itachi would be stronger by like 10 to 15 percent edo itachi is so strong bc of no sickness he was almost on par with edo nagato just slightly weaker
@alanviniciuswanderleytavar4399 Жыл бұрын
@@SyedAli-gl7jq technically yes, but Edo form has infinity chakra and no drawbacks on using his MS, which is way better than a 15% buff
@SyedAli-gl7jq10 ай бұрын
@@alanviniciuswanderleytavar4399healthy Itachi would still destroy hokage Minato low to mid diff bc we know that kcm Minato>Edo Itachi>alive Minato>alive Itachi(who is sick)
@rodneywarf7237 Жыл бұрын
Second grew up fighting Uchihas and not just that itachi was dying. Also edo tension aren't as strong as living am I mistaken I give it to second
@almercool52 жыл бұрын
you have to remember that he will be fighting sick Itachi
@SyedAli-gl7jq10 ай бұрын
He still gets clapped by Itachi tobirama is the weakest hokage ever even tsunade negs him
@spit-fire2 жыл бұрын
good match up!
@jackson90342 жыл бұрын
Healthy itachi vs tobirama this will continue for long as itachi won't have stamina issues but itachi eventually wins why because he has defense for everything tobirama has he can use susanoo ribcage to block his ninjutsu also can counter his FTG in many ways he can deflect his kunai or enter susanoo quickly he will figure out the weakness of FTG is like seconds tsukuyomi,totsuka blade are going to be the key factor itachi has better taijutsu due to his sharingan he will easily catch him in tsukuyomi and tobirama is lost itachi wins 10/10 times tobirama has no way of overpowering itachi itachi is hokage material like tobirama and minato Healthy itachi would be stronger than both
@jackschwanke6032 жыл бұрын
Itachi is better at tai jutsu id assume and is probably a bit faster than tobirama despite FTG..tobirama doesnt have the feats to tango with ppl like this.
@ΣτεφανοςΚεχαγιας-η2ε2 ай бұрын
When did you ever see itachi use amaterasu from a clone??? You are just making stuff up the entire video
@Agent-Spear Жыл бұрын
Tobirama would win the fight, he gets 500% buff against uchihas
@artmansanto3352 ай бұрын
If the writer wants tobirama to win against itachi all of this fanatic analysis will goes out through the window.
@kenshinmaster2 ай бұрын
Itachi vs Tobirama and you said itachi will win with Tobirama?? Dude you forgot tobirama’s life is to fight uchihas. He eat uchihas for breakfast. And all his skills and technique were made for uchihas. Clearly the admin is a fanboy 🤦🏻.
@Masterduel012 Жыл бұрын
the downplay to tobirama once again is insane 1. Tobirama DOES have better reaction time compared to minato by far, let's remember that one time where naruto was kidnapped by a tree, and all minato could do was scream while tobirama was already using his suiton to split the tree...oh wait, lemme guess, minato was also shocked here? come on... 2. The hiraishin of tobirama is not inferior to that of minato, it is never stated to be the case, tobirama is only inferior in shunshin to minato, also, tobirama would have been able to land a lethal blow in madara if it wasn't bc madara had also senjutsu and tobirama itself was nerfed... So yeah, if tobirama can put madara in this position, he can put itachi in that position too. 3. Itachi will use amaterasu to burn the potential spots of the hiraishin? PERFECT !! who has more chakra? tobirama, what take less chakra? spread random hiraishin seals or using amaterasu to burn them? itachi would be killing himself with that. 4. Yes, Tobirama IS that fast without the hiraishin, madara himself recognized him as the fastest shinobi even faster than hashirama, and tobirama was shocked to see how minato was faster than him when they were traveling by feet, so yes, he is insanely fast. and all of this from the first 4 mins of the video, too much downplay here, tobirama takes care of itachi low diff.
@SyedAli-gl7jq10 ай бұрын
Keep coping🤣 tobirama is fodder tsunade negs him kin and gin lost to darui sick Itachi negative diffs kin and gin Edo Itachi obliterates fodder tobirama who has nothing apart from a water gun🤡🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣
@highlightedlegend75332 жыл бұрын
Tobirama is like the second or third fastest shinobi, so Tobirama would definitely have the pace on Itachi. So Itachi would have a hard time hitting Tobirama, and Tobirama knows how to fight an uchiha. He prevented himself from staring directly at Izuna's eyes, but Itachi has more hax then Izuna. With susanoo and yata Mirror with totsuka blade, this is the part where Tobirama may struggle. He could manage to land some hits on Itachi's susanoo. If Itachi lands a pierce with the totsuka blade (but the hits are pretty slow) then Itachi wins. But since both have infinite chakra in reanimation. Tobirama has a high chance of surviving the crazy durability of the susanoo, and if he can, then Tobirama wins. But I don't think Itachi would be able to cast a genjutsu on Tobirama.
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
No bro edo itachi has better combat speed edo itachi stomps 10 out of 10
@highlightedlegend75332 жыл бұрын
@@SyedAli-gl7jq What u gonna say? Susanoo? Yeah Tobirama is faster then the totsuka attacks and has way more ninjutsu technique and power, and experience and everything. How does Itachi have more combat Speed? Didn't you read my comment, I said that Tobirama would lose only if the totsuka managed to hit, which is rare. So Tobirama wins 7/10.
@highlightedlegend75332 жыл бұрын
@@SyedAli-gl7jq Here's the thing, Tobirama is the most underrated hokage and you only hate him because he's "racist" etc etc. You know nothing about his true power and potential, alive and reanimated.
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
@@highlightedlegend7533 i dont hate tobirama but itachi has a better reaction time want proof the raikage was stated in the manga to have speed not inferior to the yellow flash so raikage=minato>tobirama in speed and kcm naruto was fast enough to dodge him because of better reaction time and itachi has same reaction time ik tobirama has better travel speed tobirama can't blitz through itachi it takes 1 divided by 5000 of a sec even if he place markers itachi will enter susanoo and as tobirama is not nearly as good as minato at FTG he can't blitz through his water attacks are countered by amaterasu itachi does not need tsukuyomi in this fight tobirama's tactics are countered by itachi's sharingan there is no way tobirama can overpower edo itachi itachi also has better Defense better ap and dc not to mention better hax and those hax perfectly counter tobirama and also his intelligence is useless as itachi has the sharingan to read his moments edo itachi claps here against edo tobirama but we don't know about alive tobirama because we have not seen enough to rank him against edo itachi so it's fair to give edo itachi the win but with high diff
@highlightedlegend75332 жыл бұрын
@@SyedAli-gl7jq Cool but both got infinite chakra, so Tobirama could just use more techniques 💀. And if you've watched Itachi's fights and you compared it to when Tobirama cuts izuna in 1 second, you'd know Tobirama has better combat Speed. It's a good fight but I think Tobirama wins.
@smilecry Жыл бұрын
Suiton for the katon Hiraishin for overpass the Sharingan He can sense is adversory he can fight with is eyes closed Tobirama is so fast and andurance and iatchi is sick and can use is mangekyo 3 or 4 tim only Love for itachi can't beat tobirama
@---wc2zpАй бұрын
Why would Tobirama fight his most favorite shinobi??? 🤣
@Jashinsama87282 жыл бұрын
Itachi will win this fight against Tobirama . He has Susanoo that has Totsuka Blade he will seals Tobirama.Someone says Tobirama has insane speed but Third Hokage which is old man and very slow catches Tobirama and seals him.
@garbagetrash90092 жыл бұрын
They say minato was very fast but kurama was able to impale him
@almercool52 жыл бұрын
He was noted by Madara to be the fastest ninja in his generation, which included himself, Hashirama, Muu and a slew of top tiered shinobi. Sharingan doesn’t like fast people, especially ones that can teleport anywhere. His techniques are meant to stop Uchiha and Itachi may have to go Susanoo just to seal a weak Edo Tensei. Add in stamina and Tobirama can simply outlast him let alone beat him.
@Jashinsama87282 жыл бұрын
@@almercool5 Tobirama is weaker he is only a puppet of Orochimaru in which Itachi already beaten.
@ghostoftheuchiha526 Жыл бұрын
@@almercool5 He's a senju dude they never had stamina issues
@danielalozie28113 ай бұрын
Tobirama is slamming Itachi low to mid diff.
@ryanwilliams9025 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama beat Madaras brother so I would say he could keep up with itachi and run him out of chakra and win with endurance
@SyedAli-gl7jq Жыл бұрын
Edo itachi has infinite stamina
@tonyrambo42572 жыл бұрын
An lol itachis sussano will get destroyed tobiramas water style is definitely capable of washing that sussano seeing maddra doing that fire style an how massive it was I’m sure tobirams water style is on a whole different scale than even kisame look how powerful his water style was or even suigetsu and suigetsu fought a bijuu tobirama water style out classes both he would drown itachi lol
@tonyrambo42572 жыл бұрын
Super water style water dragon jutsu could destroy that sussano don’t forget chujuro broke sasukes so susano can be broken
@jagsandhu37072 жыл бұрын
how come people say tobirama is better then kcm 2 naruto edo itachi can beat tobirama but. not kcm 2 naruto??????!?!?
@SyedAli-gl7jq2 жыл бұрын
Tobirama is the most overrated character in naruto even more than madara minato itachi and jiraya