What if Italy never unified? (Alternate History)

#italy #alternatehistory #mapping #ww1 #1800s
May or may not be based of a Victoria 3 playthrough

[@mariobot128]

Alternate title: what if sardinia was actually prussia

[@Bulbs_Productions]

'Prussia of the peninsula'

[@M1crosoftEdge]

​@@Bulbs_Productions💀

[@Tobadogodogogobo]

@@Bulbs_Productionswhat if brazil unified germany?

[@supamara923]

It's the guy who made the WW2 broadcasts video

[@mariobot128]

@@supamara923 ye

[@TimotejMaxmillián]

the video had a good ending, but i dont think the balkan wars wouldve happened since italy didnt invade libya

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Yeah I was thinking about that but figured that the Ottomans were already too unstable and weak to stop the balkan league

[@awindows7user872]

​@@Bulbs_Productions They already were "the sick man of Europe" from a long time.

[@AwwsomeHistoryYT]

And the Balkans can’t survive 10 seconds without instability

[@TimotejMaxmillián]

@@Bulbs_Productions another thing was the coup in the kingdom of two sicilies and papal states, how would the pope be couped

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@TimotejMaxmillián Historically he was couped and briefly replaced by the Roman republic (until France restored his power) so I don’t find it too unrealistic

[@PETRIXXXX]

>what if italy never unified? >unifies

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@PETRIXXXX Unified in 1860*

[@Slapbattler666]

@@Bulbs_Productions oh ok

[@JohnPyefinch]

This is legitimately one of the better alternate histories I've seen in a while. I would watch a part two.

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Thanks! I doubt part 2 would be interesting as without fascism the west would steamroll a weak Soviet Union but yeah

[@ilbranca9208]

As an italian, i must say : interesting and well-portrayed what if! Thank you for your work

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Thanks, I put alot of effort in :)

[@paulinalevina9690]

Video: What if Italy never unified? When you look into it: Italy unifies

[@Bulbs_Productions]

The titleshould be 'What if Italy lost the 2nd italian war of independance' but this title gets more clicks

[@Riddleiculous632]

suggestion: what if hungary won the revolution of 1848

[@Bulbs_Productions]

i was thinking of making an 1848 video actually

[@AGLMapping]

Actually a very interesting scenario... Here i doubt fascism would rise and WW2 would probably be a lot different than what we know today

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Thank you! I’m very honoured that you enjoyed my video as you are one of the reasons I started mapping, and I agree that fascism wouldn’t rise due to nobody being angry about Italy not getting enough land after the war

[@Christian_Sannino]

Alternative title: what if Sardinia unified Italy but better

[@Bulbs_Productions]

technically yes

[@theonetruepancakeman]

Another suggestion cause i have nothing to do: what if the 3 emperors alliance succedeed?

[@AndreaMoletta-s3c]

This is more like if Italy unified sooner.

[@Bulbs_Productions]

sooner?

[@AndreaMoletta-s3c]

@@Bulbs_Productions Italy is basically unified after ww1. A title that says "what if Italy NEVER unified" implies that Italy is still divided today.

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@AndreaMoletta-s3c it’s not that important

[@NinjaPheonix26]

we've been clickbaited folks

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@NinjaPheonix26 Nuh uh

[@casperbalke7264]

Damn this is detailed, discontent in the south because of a vulcano in indonesia, you really did research. Good Job

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Thanks, although I dont think the 1883 Krakatoa eruption did actually affect Italy that much in real life, although it did affect southern Iberia heavily

[@WHD5578]

Alternate title: 1.) What if Japan was divide after WW2 2.) What if Neo-Francoist rebels staged a successful coup in Spain in 1981

[@Bulbs_Productions]

nice ideas! definitely will consider

[@lyudmilaismayilova8937]

Alt title: how to make italy never ruled by mussolini

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Italy if it was good

[@ballhu-yv8nn]

If France lost World War I, France became a fascist country in World War II, and fascist France won World War II.

[@eisorama2216]

communist*

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@eisorama2216 I think he’s talking about Kaiserwelt, not Kaissereich

[@Batai22]

@@eisorama2216 Who's gonna tell him Kaiserreich isn't the holy bible of alt history

[@eisorama2216]

@@Batai22 socialism was already highly popular in France during ww1, an allied defeat would cause socialism or communism to rise up so much more. So it's either communism/socialism that will likely take power in France after World War 1

[@dinurusanu7902]

@@eisorama2216fascism was way more organized and also a prominent force in french politics, especially parties like action francaise

[@VincyRemembered]

Absolutely fire timeline, i love sitting and watching these types of videos. Theyre creative. Anyways, if you dont mind taking suggestions I'll plop one or two here. "What if the the West Virginian Coal Wars led to a US Civil War?" "What if Bohemia stayed independent from Austria and played a major role in german politics?"

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@VincyRemembered very creative suggestions! I especially like the Bohemia one cuz it goes far into the past

[@VincyRemembered]

@@Bulbs_Productions Thank you, I didn't want the usual tropes

[@Emperor_Creeper]

Nice job, keep up the amazing work!

[@Bulbs_Productions]

thanks :)

[@MayedusDalten]

@@Bulbs_ProductionsDo next What if Chinese colonization on the Americans

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@MayedusDalten that is interesting too…

[@giblegaming]

I’d love to see a part 2 with ww2 and the Cold War, this new Italy honestly seems like it would join the allies which would be interesting.

[@Bulbs_Productions]

They probably would due to the vast gain in territory, but also Hitler's rise might not happen due to Fascism never being created by Mussolini

[@giblegaming]

@@Bulbs_Productions didn’t think of that!

[@MarcTelang]

I wonder if this would limit fascism as the idea of an "Italian identity" would be weaker

[@Bulbs_Productions]

I think because of North Italy getting alot of land after ww1 that the Italian public wouldn't put an authoritarian, or atleast a fascist, in charge

[@ale-herobrineentity6927]

Better historical "What if?" Ever

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@ale-herobrineentity6927 thanks :)

[@SomethingStudiosAnimation]

What if Italy never unified Italy: 🤫

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Perchance it unifies

[@Herobrineminecraft-return]

3:10 south italy was always richer than the north but after the unifcation garibladi and his 1000 criminals stole all the money destroyed villages r4ped women destroyed factories and led to mas emigration that in now the reason why many italian are not in italy . there are more than 6 million sicilians that live outside sicily because they were forced to leave thanks to the unification that led to the creation of the mafia and the crime famelies

[@nanoboso3656]

I think this is implied that Austrian influence really hinders South Italian economy in this timeline by empowering landlords at the expense of industrialization, allowing the! North to catch up.

[@davcam7032]

That's not true, even before the unification Southern Italy was poorer than the North. Regions like Sicily, Calabria and Apulia were characterized by great social and economic disparieties. The economy was reliant on mere agriculture, industrialization was heavily lacking. It's true that the unification widened the gap with Northern Italy, buy it's not very difficult to understand that in a moment or in another Southern Italy had to get rid of the landowners system and its agricultural policies in order to evolve and compete with the others. Therefore, saying that Southern Italy only suffered from Italy's unification is wrong.

[@Herobrineminecraft-return]

@@davcam7032 amigo thats no true the south had the gold reservers and they were the first to male a train track in italy first to start recycling and had the biggest atlantic ship that sent people from naples to amerca

[@Herobrineminecraft-return]

@@davcam7032 you ever heard about the Florio?

[@davcam7032]

@@Herobrineminecraft-return Ofc what I said is true, and with all due respect, everything you said has no importance. Do you think that Naples and Palermo were the only cities of Italy with treasures and that northern and central italians cities didn't own such richies? Panama owns a canal that is crucial to the global economy, are people from Panama rich? I could make tens of similar examples to that, so if the first train track was built in Naples that doesn't automatically make the Neapoltian people rich, and that doesn't change the fact that Southern Italians lived unfortunatly in very poor conditions. The élite was rich, the people had nothing to eat, as I said the socio-economic disparieties were huge, thus they migrated to the USA. The same Florio family you mentioned is an example of that.

[@MaxivNL]

Matter of a fact: San Marino's being forgotten here!

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Actually if you look closely they arent

[@MaxivNL]

@@Bulbs_Productions Only thing we know about it, it the thing that the only thing that says that there's Sam Marino, is the blue dot up the north of Papai States!

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@MaxivNL they get occupied at the start of WW1 if u look closely

[@RonaldGrant-l7n]

Cool also I have idea What if 2nd French empire survived

[@Paltomeria_Ball]

Dude wake up, Bulbs just uploaded new video

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@Paltomeria_Ball lmao

[@GermanBallX]

9:37 Austria Hungary lol 😂 Good video!!

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@GermanBallX thanks

[@GermanBallX]

@@Bulbs_Productions Finally, a decent mobile mapper lol

[@GermanBallX]

Can you do an alternate history of medieval Bulgaria video? That would be cool lol

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@GermanBallX I... use Paint. net on PC. You cant really do good mapping on mobile

[@GermanBallX]

@@Bulbs_Productions Oh you use PC? Looked like a mobile mapping style. I can give you some tips: cities and a terrain map make your maps look so much better and improve video quality. Your videos are great though

[@danieleclemenza9665]

what a wonderful video! maybe you could continue this alternate history untile WW2: what would have happened if italy had joined the allies?

[@Bulbs_Productions]

interesting idea, although due to mussolini not coming to power im not sure hitler would either

[@danieleclemenza9665]

@Bulbs_Productions I think so, maybe he would have led Germany as in our timetable

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@danieleclemenza9665 he likely wouldn’t as Mussolini created fascism

[@GrindingChicken]

@@Bulbs_Productions Actualy, fascist italy initiate was in good terms with the allies and even tried stopping a fascist coup in Austria to defend it. A pro ally italy is very possible

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@GrindingChicken yeah but without fascism

[@helloitsnico]

How do you make these maps? Also, great video!

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Paint. Net (put a space between . and net)

[@helloitsnico]

@@Bulbs_Productions Thanks!

[@Wlalss0]

video name: What if italy never unified? 9:41 italy unified under italians

[@Bulbs_Productions]

you know well what the damn title meant

[@mossley_]

An error: People from Tuscany are not called 'Tuscanians' they are called Tuscans.

[@Bulbs_Productions]

wow im sure that ruins the whole video

[@mossley_]

@@Bulbs_Productions I was just correcting the video so you won't do it again

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@mossley_ No problem, though i doubt i will make another video with tuscany in it lol

[@Chaddolini]

Good video, but I think it would have been southern Italy to unify the peninsula this time. but it's a personal opinion.

[@Bulbs_Productions]

I severly doubt it, as in this timeline south Italy is a complete shithole (similar to real life)

[@ballhu-yv8nn]

If Austria takes northern Italy

[@Bulbs_Productions]

if they kept*

[@twixmaestr7605]

Could you make WW2 with this Italy? I think that would be awesome! (If you do I’ll subscribe)

[@shadowrap7071]

amazing video, like from italy

[@Bulbs_Productions]

thanks :)

[@GodAccpetsall]

I like this

[@NobleGamer889]

Just curious what would happen to Somalia in this timeline?

[@Bulbs_Productions]

British

[@falkon787]

So you say this half italy can win ethiopia but real life united Italy can't don't you think that's a bit unrealistic

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Well you see, there is this unique thing called reading, where someone is able to pay attention to the video rather than only care about the visuals. If you had read the events on the right you would know that due to Italy have more steel and being less overconfident they wouldnt get ambushed by ethiopian forces and would be fully prepared to fight them

[@falkon787]

@@Bulbs_Productions i get it but it's just don't make sense to me they miss so much valuable land in north but end up much stronger yea maybe beating Ethiopia is ok but austria hungary and south italy is too much

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@falkon787 They have more Steel and don’t underestimate their enemy like in real life, also south Italy is very very weak

[@falkon787]

@@Bulbs_Productions the have less people to in the army

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@falkon787 Quality matters just as much as quality

[@Saitama_www]

9:51 bom final

[@guillaume6824]

What if france join austria against german Before Sadowa battle

[@Noblegeneral1661]

do what if spanish empire never collapsed

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@Noblegeneral1661 I like this one

[@Noblegeneral1661]

@@Bulbs_Productions yah i hope you do it

[@hkmaster8043]

If South sudan discovered americas?

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@hkmaster8043 yeah this one is rlly realistic

[@Catfishuwu]

Tuscany was Habsburg.

[@Bulbs_Productions]

The people rose up then ig

[@Oowowowo]

POV San Marino 🫥🫥🌚🌚

[@Bulbs_Productions]

San Marino W

[@France1020]

France want savoie and nice

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@France1020 and they got it by helping Sardinia Piedmont in the 2nd Italian war of independence, which they didn’t participate in in this timeline

[@Herobrineminecraft-return]

9:50 again the north south devide would not have existed if it wasnt for the unifaction in italy alost anyone didnt want the unification, the kindom of savoy that was falling into economic debth decided to recruit garbardi that was a french peruvian bandit wich had the tips of his ears cut off for his crimes committed in south amerca, he didnt even spoke italian well , he was given 1000 criminals taked from prison and savoy in accordation with the currupted ministers of two siciles managed to land in sicily every knowed about this but no one did nothing to stop there were some fight but unfurtunaly garibaldi conquered sicily destroying everyting wich came in his way, when italy united they stole all the money and put super hight taxes that to this day make south italy and sicily poor and colony of the north

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Yeah im not gonna lie thats not true

[@Herobrineminecraft-return]

@@Bulbs_Productions im sorry to inform you but its true remember history is written by those who win not those who loose

[@Herobrineminecraft-return]

@@Bulbs_Productions and life in south italy isnt good i talk in first person

[@Herobrineminecraft-return]

@@Bulbs_Productions like the stuff they write in books is a fake tale that was made by the savoyards dinasty back in the past when they colonized the south, like there thousent of books and movies and tv programs and documentaries that talk about this , and if you go in south italy or sicily and ask about garibaldi 7 italians out of 10 agree with me that garibaldi was a criminal

[@rosytherascal777]

U SAID ITALY NEVER UNITED

[@Bulbs_Productions]

in 1860*

[@pitta-breadalt]

Yyehe

[@BeboAire]

W

[@Bulbs_Productions]

@@BeboAire w

[@Countrythai-z]

When will the Soviet Union do it?

[@Bulbs_Productions]

?

[@falkon787]

.

[@Bulbs_Productions]

how come

[@falkon787]

@@Bulbs_Productions yea sorry it's actually not bad

[@YesWhatNo]

When onlyfans

[@Bulbs_Productions]

ayo???

[@Nerfgunner-k3g]

Hi

[@Bulbs_Productions]

hello

[@melancholy1427]

could you do uhhh like uhhhhhh creeper vs britain

[@Bulbs_Productions]

Creeper vs Tenessee