What if the Stresa front was successful? (Italy🇮🇹 France🇫🇷 Britain🇬🇧 against Germany🇩🇪 to defend Austria 🇦🇹)
@the_blob78205 ай бұрын
We need this at The top
@MARK-gp9hb5 ай бұрын
@@the_blob7820 thanks, i reached second and third place before but never first place
@kingofhearts31855 ай бұрын
Boosted
@MARK-gp9hb5 ай бұрын
@@kingofhearts3185 thank you
@nessuno95325 ай бұрын
commenting so it goes to the top
@nightprince86415 ай бұрын
This actually managed to happen when I was playing Germany. The Soviets invaded Poland somehow a year into it Poland was still there. France and Britain declared war they sent troops to Poland and in 1941 the Americans joined in and they defeated the Soviet Union which ended up becoming the Russian federation. It was definitely a very interesting thing to watch
@ladybuzzkillington20725 ай бұрын
I had a similar thing. I turned off historical AI for the first time. Picked Germany and planned to kind of just do a non-aligned Germany. Poland gets invaded by USSR and the Allies went to town. All I could imagine was just every Nazi leader remaining in 1941 was just like "Holy shit that is what we dodged?"
@QuartetGhost5 ай бұрын
I love non historical ai it's so wacky
@Njuregen5 ай бұрын
A technique you can exploit as Germany, to make the USSR much weaker.
@nabakunlaismime55265 ай бұрын
@@QuartetGhostit can happen in historical
@QuartetGhost5 ай бұрын
@nabakunlaismime5526 usually not until it exhaust it's historical options the longer a game goes on for the higher the chance the ai will free form non historical is more based on nations reacting to each other and the player if your like me then whatever changes you made at start
@dominicanemperor285 ай бұрын
What if the Russian Revolution failed (Tsar stays in power scenario) Use Great War Redux mod
@I_want_White_Cheddar_Popcorn5 ай бұрын
Soooo, no February revolution?
@dominicanemperor285 ай бұрын
@@I_want_White_Cheddar_Popcorn yeah
@brandonferretti99075 ай бұрын
Scar Nicholas!
@dominicanemperor285 ай бұрын
@@brandonferretti9907 So Nicholas as a lion?
@brandonferretti99075 ай бұрын
@@dominicanemperor28 The Scar Nicholas Universe by MonsieurZ for example
@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer19335 ай бұрын
Attempt 5: (Using the Great War Redux again) What if Italy honored the Triple Alliance and eventually joined the Central Powers when WWI comes around?
@KiraiKatsuji5 ай бұрын
They would do the same they did against Austria being taking some attention of the main front but this against France and not Austria. Overall Russia would most likely capitulate a bit faster and Central Power would make more progress against France but the general outcome most likely wouldn't change much.
@onethreeify5 ай бұрын
@@KiraiKatsuji Imagine Verdun but hundreds of thousands of fewer French troops because they were occupied in the Alps. I don't think most people understand how close the Central Powers were to winning at several points throughout the war.
@KiraiKatsuji5 ай бұрын
@@onethreeify Yeah but overall Italy is not doing more than taking attention which was my main point.
@teeby20375 ай бұрын
@@KiraiKatsujiand thats all the central powers need. italy has over 30 million people and a sizable industry. while not a *major* power, they wouldve won the war for germany should she have joined.
@KiraiKatsuji5 ай бұрын
@@teeby2037 And yet did absolutely nothing on Austrian Alps due to their incompetance. Like italy itself won't win the war the attention they will force France to split will win the war.
@michaelbergen2695 ай бұрын
What if MacArthur got permission to use nukes during the Korean War?
@BigTonyOfficial5 ай бұрын
Super interesting! This seems like the kind of scenario that needs its own entire mod, HOI4 doesn’t do a very good job of accounting for the social repercussions of the Bomb. Would the world rally against the warmongering United States? Would the Communist nations cower in the fear that they would be next? Super fun to think about, but to do it justice you would need custom focus trees accounting for the consequences of nuclear war
@kanaric5 ай бұрын
I don't think that could be represented in HOI4 unless there is a very detailed Korean War mod.
@general_mcmac4 ай бұрын
@@kanaric He could us Cold war: Iron Curtain
@KorbenStyring5 ай бұрын
What if Sweden joined the axis
@River14q5 ай бұрын
That's a good one
@KhanWolf955 ай бұрын
What if Sweden did something during WW2?
@feexy415 ай бұрын
@@KhanWolf95We were chilling, don’t let it bother you.
@johanfrom21005 ай бұрын
What if Sweden joined the central powers
@valkrake5 ай бұрын
@@feexy41 Angry norwegian noises
@EscapismFanatic92315 ай бұрын
What if the Carlists managed to take control of Spain?
@elduquecaradura14685 ай бұрын
Probably a similar scenario of what happened with the nationalists, broke beyond any reasonable amount since the "republicans" gave all the gold to Josef Stalin. I would be hated by all the playerbase if this change was added, but imagine what would happen if you cannot prevent the republicans giving the gold giving you a HUGE debuff in all regards, making you practically broke during the whole game unless you do certain tasks, like fight for the axis or the allies and exchange war score for points to get out of the mega deficit of the economy, something like a puppet system, with an obviously small trickle done per each civilian factory you have
@TheArklyte5 ай бұрын
They kind of did. Franco was monarchist supporter and he returned the monarchy back on the throne as his last move. I wouldn't hold it past the spanish royal family if they had bankrolled and supported him from the beginning.
@blackduckfarmcanada5 ай бұрын
Well, the Nationalists and the Carlists did work together...
@nolifealan97465 ай бұрын
Honestly I can't see much changing history Spain still wouldn't have helped in WW2 as the civil war destroyed them and the monarch would need to not piss off either sides and probably eventually become a democracy again like in our timeline
@shironee_23844 ай бұрын
There's an unfortunate chance that Franco might not be able to made it to the end because of accident. If so, the conflict between Falangist and Carlist would be inevitable. My point is the alliance that the Nationalist have are heavily dependent on Franco, which means the fate of a single man is also the fate of the whole faction. I think it would be more plausible for Franco to died during civil war than not being invited to the faction (the vanilla Falangist focus tree). About who's going to be the 'winner' of the civil war, I would bet on Falangist. Considering that the Nationalist were supported by the Axis because of their 'supposed' ideology, I would guess that the Falangist have way more upper hand than the Carlist. Although having more local support means the Carlist would be harder to deal with.
@isntbeautiful49505 ай бұрын
Okay new thing, what if Russia during WW1, was just more prepared?
@redtopat5 ай бұрын
He alr did that i think
@TheArklyte5 ай бұрын
Russia was the MOST prepared country in WWI after their defeat in Russo-Japanese War. They started production of first armored cars immediately after it in 1905(but the political figure behind the project was blown up by anarchists), they had gone to rearm, buying and licensing ANY machinegun and artillery piece they can find(remember french 105mm divisional gun? It was developed for order placed by russian government for 107mm one) and so on. However it's not unpreparedness that drove them under, it was political turmoil and decades of opposition to industrialization by russian nobility.
@comechocolate5 ай бұрын
@@TheArklyteso lemme say it like this "What if Russia was more competent in WW1?"
@TheArklyte5 ай бұрын
@@comechocolate it was a competent as it could get. From arming cavalry with Madsen MGs and grenades to producing Putilov-Garford wheeled tanks(if you think it's "just" armored car, that armored car had 11mm of armor and long 75mm in rotating turret). However it didn't have 1)industry; 2)was de facto fighting low intensity civil war since 1905.
@KiraiKatsuji5 ай бұрын
@@comechocolate It as prepared and it was competant, what you want to ask is What If Russia was really stable in WW1.
@Talking_Ben_nr_15 ай бұрын
What if Sweden never lost Finland in the napoleinic wars and kept Finland and the Swedish Monarchy in power until ww1 where they joined the central powers (great war redux)
@AgentAction-ni2ji5 ай бұрын
But in what mod would you do this? There is no hoi4 mod for the napoleonic wars
@Talking_Ben_nr_15 ай бұрын
@@AgentAction-ni2ji great war redux
@AgentAction-ni2ji4 ай бұрын
@@Talking_Ben_nr_1 sorry i did not read great war redux in your comment, how i did not see that
@Talking_Ben_nr_14 ай бұрын
@@AgentAction-ni2ji its ok this one wont win ethier way kinda sad that some shitty ones get more likes like what if Sweden joined the Axis
@HenryShrefler-f9i5 ай бұрын
what if Italy got all of its claims after WWI? This could be a good scenario because now Mussolini really doesn't have a reason to take power and or join WW2 on Germany's side
@AlexFnafer5 ай бұрын
What if Nikolay Bukharin became leader of the Soviet union instead of Stalin in 1936.
@ozcarbaz57125 ай бұрын
Omg iss thhat a TNO rference!!!
@AlexFnafer5 ай бұрын
@@ozcarbaz5712lol
@ChangeNameEdits5 ай бұрын
TNO!!!!
@TheArklyte5 ай бұрын
Would be hard to set up, but I guess the divergence point would be "Stalin fell down the stairs in 1935-1936"? So I guess Kirov and Ordzhonikidze are still dead?
@royale76204 ай бұрын
@@ozcarbaz5712tno = clown mod
@bejaminmaston13475 ай бұрын
What if the entente never intercepted the zimmerman telegram and mexico accepted
@xilgon17805 ай бұрын
Fr
@NebuIize5 ай бұрын
both of those occurring are literally impossible.the only cables going across the atlantic ran through britain, so when they see a message from the german foreign office they are obviously going to read it. and this is forgetting the sorry state mexico was in in 1917, having just recovered from a brutal civil war which left absolutely no fighting spirit within the mexican ranks
@bejaminmaston13475 ай бұрын
@NebuIize with his ways of changing the timeline he could make it so the telegram was delivered by hand as a letter and a extreme anti American dictator ended up taking control, although America wouldn't allow that , he could make a way for it to happen
@TheArklyte5 ай бұрын
@@bejaminmaston1347 that's literally impossible. People keep telling you that. There never was any degree of intent behind said telegram. And if you make Mexico and authoritarian regime, it would have more reasons to join Entente. Just like Stalin was "honorary member" of Allies.
@MARK-gp9hb5 ай бұрын
6 weeks + 8 months of phoney war... don't forget that
@andresdominguez49145 ай бұрын
Video #5 - What if the United Arab Republic was a success? (Egypt/Cold War mod)
@rhyskelly56835 ай бұрын
Stak needs to play the mod "The New Order" cause it is the most unhinged and vile alt history coldwar mod for Hoi4 and I think his reactions would be crazy
@El.fish.the.chocolate4 ай бұрын
'Taboristky reign of terror' helped me to being unable to get scared by any fictional horror... That shit took the crown of fictional horror because... Just the though that something like this could have existed... Unnerve me...
@biyurica4 ай бұрын
He would be horrified
@El.fish.the.chocolate4 ай бұрын
@LeifTunteri-s7r just search Taborisky reign of terror and you would see, but to put it simply, immagine a nation were is 10x worse to live in than the actual German Reich...
@CerberusMalt4 ай бұрын
@@El.fish.the.chocolate ...bro what happened to terrify you this bad, because now I gotta know
@El.fish.the.chocolate4 ай бұрын
*"the average age in the holy russian empire has reached 12 years..."* That single line should make you realize how much the crap hit the fan. Still, trust me, go search for Taborisky reign of terror or search and read up the little notes that pop up as the game progress. And then, search for Sergei Taborisky in real life and you would understand that what this man did, wasn't that far fecthed.
@MowThatLawn5 ай бұрын
What if Germany respected the treaty of Versailles? (This is not a joke)
@vincehellier58405 ай бұрын
What if the events of Red Alert happened? Germany is democratic and part of the Allies, and WWII is between the Allies and the Soviets.
@coolbeans90615 ай бұрын
Dude I’ve been loving these videos! Keep it up!
@swamperino84504 ай бұрын
This is my favorite hoi4 series at the moment. I'm so happy to see you do something new and innovative
@kurtschaefer68455 ай бұрын
What if there was no appeasement?
@rajulaser48075 ай бұрын
Thaaanks for coming maaan, been waiting for you
@DuCk.ex35 ай бұрын
What if Finland took the deal the Soviets offered them in 1939
@Sugarierspoon995 ай бұрын
Also a more states mod might be helpful for this.
@elduquecaradura14685 ай бұрын
There wouldn't be a war
@TheArklyte5 ай бұрын
Stalin would ask for more next year.
@hopedream115 ай бұрын
No Winter War and Germany likely has a harder time moving into the USSR Leningrad likely doesn't get encircled and the Soviets halt Them earlier than in December 41 perhaps in Fall 41. Also possible the Soviets don't get the combat experience needed to defend against Germany and take more losses. Not too much changes aside from specific elements of Barb. And maybe offensive is launched sooner.
@hdrote97015 ай бұрын
Same thing as with the Baltic States: the Soviets would follow up with demands to establish bases in Finland. Should Finland accept, the Soviets would send a garrison equal or greater then the Finnish armed forces. And after some time would demand appointment of a friendly government and “elections”. All parties besides the soviet one would be forbidden from participating and for good measure fake votes would be added. First act of the new government would be requesting to join the USSR. The reason why it wouldn’t work the same way as with Romania is because the whole of Finland was assigned to the soviet sphere and the territories that the Soviets demanded were essential to Finland’s defence. Finland agreed to peace when the Mannerheim line was breached because without it the defence of southern Finland, lacking foreign support, would simply become a delaying retreat towards the capital. So giving it up without a fight would leave Finland in a much worse situation should the Soviets follow up with demands for bases
@BenaiahYorman5 ай бұрын
What if the allies sided with Czech in the Munich conference.
@YovenBonJoven5 ай бұрын
thank you both for making these on such short notice
@AvaniDK5 ай бұрын
This alternate history actually makes a lot of sense to my (limited) knowledge of WW2. Churchill was not a fan of Communists. Some of the first resistance groups that appeared in Denmark were members of the Danish Communist Party, that were veterans from the Spanish Civil War, as well as students that had the veterans as teachers at the university etc. These appeared in 1941 after the German attack on the Soviet Union, which led to the Germans making the Communist party illegal in Denmark. In the beginning they were making homemade bombs with chemicals stolen from school labs, and stole guns from German soldiers. Later, as they made contact with London, they got supplies from the British. However, when other non-communist resistance groups started being formed, they were prioritized over those that were communist.
@jbarnhart27744 ай бұрын
Cool
@mostbasedman16865 ай бұрын
Wow, earliest I've been. Operation Unthinkable is silly
@typicallatenightgamer71225 ай бұрын
What if Germany fully Conquered Austro-Hungary and used its territories to make better treaties with its neighbors, like an Italian anti French treaty and a Russian non-aggression treaty.
@nickster52075 ай бұрын
What if the assassination attempt in 1944 was successful and the officer coup of Operation Valkyrie succeeded?
@Excorium5 ай бұрын
How would WW2 been different if the great depression never happened, don't know if this is possible with hoi4
@GhostCryProductions5 ай бұрын
Attempt 2: What if Germany honored the Molotiv-Ribbentrop Pact and did not invade the Soviet Union?
@Karagianis5 ай бұрын
3:24 You should also remember that as it was in ww1 the Plan was for the UK to focus mainly on the naval side, while FRANCE would handle most of the army side on the continent. The British army was very small because what little money had gone fo defense spending had almost all gone to the navy.
@brutusthebear90505 ай бұрын
3:30 IIRC, when I was first recommended your channel, it was because I watched CME
@SomaliCountryball225 ай бұрын
What is Soviets Attacked Germany first
@sahilhossain82044 ай бұрын
Lore of Hoi4 Alt History: What if the Allies Declared war on the Soviet Union momentum 100
@CMDRDan5 ай бұрын
What if the German Empire allied fully with Italy and invaded Austria-Hungary together?
@roach86765 ай бұрын
Video idea: What Hungary was competent in WW2?
@jaredjosephsongheng3725 ай бұрын
Stakuyi shoutouting CallMeEzekiel? Damn I wasn't expecting that but at the same time they're both really popular.
@DorkusMaximus15 ай бұрын
0:30 -1:45 Your explanation for Britain not intervening against the Soviets for their aggression against Poland and Finland doesn't make sense, as those wars of aggression and imperialism occurred and concluded BEFORE France's invasion and capitulation. The invasion and occupation of Poland by Germany and the USSR occurred in September 1939, and the Winter War ended in March 1940. France was invaded in May 1940, and capitulated in late June 1940. I don't believe you actually intentionally lied, but this is a major mistake for someone of your profession to make. My displeasure is compounded by the fact you erroneously cited this unexpected catastrophe to erroneously portray Britain's lack of resolve to assist and defend its professed allies and friends who it saw as expendable and less important against evil people and their regimes as instead a total inability to do so. Bad form, Stakuyi. I have liked your videos a lot, and your HOI4 alt-history series is extremely innovative and informative. However. now I worry if there were serious errors in other videos that I wasn't equipped to spot.
@Thebaconmurderer4 ай бұрын
There were all you have to do is check the comments myself and a few others have left quite a few. One of which is his "What if Japan Attacked the Soviets instead of the US". The US also very much wanted to knock out the soviets before th Germans invaded. Thus if Japan chose that route the US most likely would have assisted the Japanese since we had good relations all the way up till their invasion of China, and Pearl Harbor.
@Rolo15075 ай бұрын
Honestly would like to see what would happen if Italy joined the Stresa Front 8:00
@spartanhawk76375 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the duality of man. Exceptional violence and all out warfare...and Stakuyi with his cat.
@mikmic74375 ай бұрын
Day 17 of asking Stakuyi to continue playing Kaiserredux A to Z, so he can reach Malta and hopefully plays Mintoff.
@liamroarke79915 ай бұрын
1:05 read as: France buckled like a belt.
@ScottHouston-f2i4 ай бұрын
So in ww1 many Australian generals were against Gallipoli and poziers and the Somme. What if australia was able to be under full australian command under Monash and not used as shock troops and cannon fodder (lack of bieng able to explain in words)from the start?
@cheesyfromindonesia99695 ай бұрын
Bro litterly just Operation Unthinkable'd them
@jaska-jalmarixvi57573 ай бұрын
Damn. I wanted to know how it would play out in the end. Especially Finland
@Lightman03595 ай бұрын
Have you done Operation Unthinkable? I know it is a little beyond the scope of base HOI4, but maybe with the road to 56 mod and a 1939 start: What if the Allies pulled the trigger on Operation Unthinkable and used what remained of the Wehrmacht to invade the Soviet union? Maybe start as 1939 US or UK, follow historical, cap the Nazis, but in the peace deal, annex West Germany, start some reconstruction efforts, find some way to declare war on the Soviets, then release and play as West Germany to either dissolve the Soviet Union or at least liberate Eastern Europe. This Scenario to make the first half interesting could maybe include a second what if: What If, with the plan of Operation Unthinkable in mind, the allies focused on Africa & the Middle East first [to secure oil], Japan and the Pacific second [to secure rubber and the colonies] and Mainland Europe last [to bleed the Russians on Germany].
@firesturmgaming4 ай бұрын
Operation Unthinkable scenario. Interesting.
@vraptor3135 ай бұрын
What if America instead of joining ww2 on the allies side and made their own faction and went down the Monroe doctrine
@kanaric5 ай бұрын
That would be a lot of idling in the game lol
@spookylegoman1945 ай бұрын
I would love to hear about the Moroccan Crisis of 1905 and what happened if they started World War 1
@adrastoso97274 ай бұрын
America only entered the war in Europe because Germany declared war on America because America declared war on Japan! So in this scenerio world Germany declare war on America because if not America would not get involved Europe! I cannot see Germany attack the soviets in this situation given they are both fighting the Allie’s. Hitler would have to wait until England capitulated due to a stalemate to attack the Soviets and with our America, I am sure this would have happened.
@hollowedshadow28225 ай бұрын
What if Romania, ambitious after ww1, tried (and succeeded) in unifying the bulkins.
@TLBgaming03305 ай бұрын
Ah yes, my favorite powder keg of Europe… The Bulkins
@Iumel5 ай бұрын
Hello Moonbeam
@_togo645 ай бұрын
Hello Moonbeam
@theeradicator1103 ай бұрын
Wait why does Great Britain have 107K convoys?!?!
@meowingtonvonmeow88685 ай бұрын
What if Stakuyi played East Coast Rebirth. Also, the Florida Submod is out
@Spanishinquisition985 ай бұрын
Since you mentioned King Edward, I really want to see "what if King Edward VIII never abdicated and instead, formed the kings party?"
@gregkun15 ай бұрын
What if General Patton had his way all through out the war?
@Gladsmurf934 ай бұрын
what if churchill stepped in insted of chamberlin in 1937
@Gothmog30195 ай бұрын
Day one of asking Stakuyi to quote the fights historical, from Marathon to Waterloo in orders categorical.
@RedFrontRadio5 ай бұрын
What if the KPD successfully formed a proper Einheitsfront against fascism and gained power in Germany?
@Elyseon5 ай бұрын
Early Operation Unthinkable? Also, that is one adorable cat.
@AverageStrategyGameGeneral5 ай бұрын
Vid 2 of asking what if the Kerensky Offensive succeeded and Kerensky stayed in power? (Great War Redux, may need to cheat like you did in China lol)
@Hippie_King154 ай бұрын
What if Japan actually played nice
@walnzell93285 ай бұрын
8:20 What is the Mikado?
@Zaffron775 ай бұрын
Video SEVEN of what if Vietnam broke free from France and sought revenge??
@YeEpIkAiYeI5 ай бұрын
How did you get 100k convoys!?!? Did you just built convoys from the very beggining?
@Par779ker4 ай бұрын
What if the Soviet Union surrendered to Germany in 1942?
@mrjerppa38335 ай бұрын
What if Finland turned facist after Mäntsälä Rebellion? you could use facist path for this
@Defcon1OfficialYoutube5 ай бұрын
What if the Italians sided with Austria during the Anschluss!
@kyhunter23575 ай бұрын
Maybe I am confused, but how could Germany not take Norway? They literally took Norway and Denmark BEFORE invading France. Meaning, they should have already had them under raps before the disaster in France.
@Thebaconmurderer4 ай бұрын
There's a lot of things that have been left out. Even though this is alt histor he likes to conform it in ways that make no sense. One main thing is if Britain committed that many troops to Finland they would have dedicated plenty of aircraft that would leave France practically undefeated from the air. Not to mention operation sealing might have actually succeeded with a decent chunck of their airforce and army fighting the Soviets. Not to mention he messed up some of the information. The allies didn't want Italy on their side after the invasion of Ethiopia and even embargoed them. Mussolini reached out about defending Austria from the Germans, but England and France said no. When they appeased Germany they practically signed Italy's death wish. Mussolini actually despised Hitler before WW2 and once he got told off by the allies he pretty much had 2 options eith die to one or die to the other. Not to mention the only reason Mussolini saw better advances was because he practically gave control to Hitler so that Italy wouldn't fall.
@floridaman17664 ай бұрын
Day 2 of asking: What if Oswald Mosley succeeded in turning the UK fascist despite of the Olympia Rally
@Xenuos5 ай бұрын
wow I was literally thinking this last night and was planning to comment it on the next video (but post-ww2 after germany surrenders, before churchill is voted out)
@SketchG5 ай бұрын
Bro summoned all the poles with thwt 2137 video length
@chazbarton93505 ай бұрын
What if the Italian campaign took weeks instead of months? And this was actually possible, if 1 british general didnt think he knew it all.
@PasiastyPasek5 ай бұрын
I love CallMeEzekiel Channel. Im so glad that you give him call out! Its funny looking, haha polandball. But he teaches history in super friendly way. More people show know about him
@Mr_Godmode4 ай бұрын
What if the Ottomans survived after WW1 (they still lost it but weren't beaten afterwards (3)
@zacharywiebe58205 ай бұрын
What if the Zimmermann Telegram came through to Mexico and they accepted
@Dutch_Dame685 ай бұрын
Heck yeah CallMeEziekel mentioned! One of my favorite KZbinrs!
Idea: What if the Republicans (against all odds) won the Spanish Civil war and joined the Comintern and declared war on Germany at the start of Operation Barbarossa
@spatialex5 ай бұрын
What if Italy didn't invade Greece ? (Either a neutral or axis greece would mean no invasion of Yugoslavia, no axis Bulgaria, and an earlier Operation Barbarossa)
@striker25885 ай бұрын
The WHAT IF I would like to see is a revisit of Japan with 2 notable changes to that round. First Japan still goes North but Bad mustache man convinces Japan to join not realizing they were going to do that, in exchange Germany "hands over" European colonies in Asia after the low countries fall (ie resources), so by taking these colonies appeasing the Navy a bit. Second that since Japan knows that Germany will invade they wait till after Germany invades in the west (preferably waiting till Stalin is coming out of his funk).
@chiefbigsad79955 ай бұрын
what if all of the colonies broke away from Britain after they declared war on germany
@wormydiaz5 ай бұрын
what if japan never signed the tripartite pact leading to america never going to war in europe?
@LerrisHarrington5 ай бұрын
So, I've manipulated the Soviets a few times to do this in the past I don't know if the AI still falls for it or not, its been a while. But as Germany you do everything but declare war on Poland, so you never actually kick the war off. Eventually the soviets get tired of waiting for you and hit Poland themselves. The Allies of course come and defend Poland. Now lacking a land border they suck at doing anything about it, but the Soviet Fleet does a bunch of work covering the coasts for the Axis. With Soviet shipping to contend with the Allies have a much more difficult time running naval invasions. That leaves the Axis pretty much free to consolidate Europe at their leisure. But that's just the war game, and the all or nothing nature of the peace deals. It leaves out more middle grounds. The Germans were more interested in the East after all, and there was more than enough new territory to keep them busy in that direction. In this video we saw the Germans and Finns fighting a 3 way war with the Soviets when they met. With Allied forces also in the area. It's not a huge leap to decide to try and turn one of your enemies into an ally against the larger problem before you get into 'don't do this 101' situations like multi front wars. Germany giving back most/all of its conquests in the West, in exchange for peace and support against the Soviets *before* committing to Barbarossa would leave the Allies with an interesting choice. They're at war with both the USSR an the Axis. Europe is firmly under Axis control, and they're trying to defend the Finns from a much larger opponent, while the official German reason for war with the allies was Danzig, but the Allies don't really have a front in Europe yet. Without Barbarossa bogging down the Germans in Russia their presence and control over Europe is looking a lot scarier. A negotiated peace with the Axis might look like as close to a win as they can get, combined an actual shared victory over the USSR to offset what they did lose. So potential peace between the Axis and Allies based on only minor territory adjustments, with promises of gains out of the USSR, while both move to dogpile the Soviets. Peace with the Allies would then naturally swing Japans focus away from allied holdings, and back towards the Soviets as well. Just an outcome I thought could be possible.
@starborn62392 ай бұрын
8:17 "Remain the bastions of democracy and liberty in Europe..." said the two biggest colonial powers there ever existed....
@alexkudzin49804 ай бұрын
What if Japan found Alexieve at the start of the Siberian intervention, installed him as a puppet, and didn't leave
@Jenna-hu7mp4 ай бұрын
Well, in this timeline, Germany probably would have made peace with Britian to fight the soviets. Of I recall correctly, they tried that in RL, but it was rejected. But here, with a more tired Germany being less of a threat, and England focused on Finland. It likely could have happened.
@tsamoka64965 ай бұрын
Hi Stakuyi! If you think it'd be worth it, I think a playthrough of the Youjo Senki Redux mod would be fun to see. Please? It would really make my day. =^x^=
@csupi50775 ай бұрын
I saw this scenario a lot in hoi4. If you play as Germany, and dont attack Poland, but do Molotov-Ribbentrop, than the soviets will eventually attack the allies. Lot of times they capitulate eventually.
@bigbison65935 ай бұрын
What if the British navy got more funding pre ww2? (leave the Washington naval treaty immediately, don't sign the London treaty. etc etc, focus on dockyards etc)
@George_2354 ай бұрын
What if operation Valkyrie happened
@finesthour975 ай бұрын
I would advise using the ''Player-Led Peace Conference'' mod so that you can make more realistic peace decisions for everyone.
@irishdude75245 ай бұрын
Now what if...hear me out...I Can't Believe it's Not Butter...was actually butter?!
@terhop37805 ай бұрын
I've seen this one here before but I would still love to see what if the Warsaw Uprising succeeded
@Chance-tv2jn5 ай бұрын
What if Greece fulfilled the Mengali idea
@SonOfNone5 ай бұрын
20:10 That 2000 PP with 89 Decisions is triggering me...
@lostboy30505 ай бұрын
What if Mexico became a more active ally at the start of WW2? (They had objected to the annexation of Austria, and later joined the war, even sending planes to the pacific theatre, but i wonder what would happen if they were like Brazil and had sent troops to Europe)
@RobertLey604 ай бұрын
What if Mussolini formed a seperate power bloc with Spain and Portugal?
@Joelgrevious-ki8ln4 ай бұрын
NOTHING, they would remain neutral
@RobertLey604 ай бұрын
@@Joelgrevious-ki8ln :( It could have happen! Mi teamo Mussolini
@meemittaja22424 ай бұрын
What if the British were able to conquer Norway and by then able to cease the German-Swedish trade? This would probably stop Germany from doing a lot of things due to the lack of resources