What if Kylian Mbappe is the problem.

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What if Kylian Mbappe is the problem.
What if Kylian Mbappe is the problem.
What if Kylian Mbappe is the problem.

[@lucaslonchampt613]

Him and Vinicius on the left remind me of the problem France had when Malouda and Ribéry both wanted to start on the left after the 2006 World Cup. Even as Ribéry played as an attacking midfielder, they would constantly get in each other's way

[@Vizeh]

Damn that’s a very good comparison actually

[@ordotectonicus8585]

Could say the same for foden and Bellingham at the euros. I would've preferred for one to sit on the bench and rotate them every game and sub them on.

[@galaxyknight7309]

​@@Vizeh Not that good of a comparison because overtime they will adjust to each other in both can play as a cf so they will just switch and when it works it works pretty good

[@PanthersRageYT]

@@ordotectonicus8585 yeah, but bellingham is more of a 6 rather than a 10 so like in the world cup we would get the best playing foden in the 10 with bellingham dropping back for defensive responsibilities but still having great build up play

[@elmosaynomore]

​@galaxyknight7309 tbh vinicius is horrendous as a cf

[@tendopain2585]

Who would’ve thought starting 3 left wingers would be a problem

[@zainjaved18]

Reminds me of how the 2000s galaticos failed the moment they started proritizing superstar attackers instead of building a balanced team with defenders

[@matanoto]

ronaldihno vs galaticos Messi vs Prime Madrid 2017 Yamal vs Madrid 2024??

[@ninanano]

Yup... hate to say it but I agree

[@Asad97654]

​@@matanotomessi and ronaldinho both played in superstar teams. They were the best players but they weren't just only good players there.

[@matanoto]

@@Asad97654 ik im just stating the meme that’s been going around

[@Asad97654]

@@matanoto yeah i think they're forgetting that 2004-2015 Barca was one of the greatest teams ever (if not the greatest).

[@yeonlee5]

It's like Vinicius and Mbappe are both trying to be the main man. Meanwhile, you got Endrick trying to do the spectacular when it's a 3v1. They're all trying to stand out, all playing to be that best player. They only pass to each other when they absolutely have to, not when it's the better choice.

[@sabassegovia3915]

Sounds like the kind of player Madrid wants 🤷‍♂️

[@buatmainml1284]

yea, really unnecessary. i just don't like it why mbappe go to real madrid. the most sensible way to think why madrid need mbappe is when they're trying to replace vini jr, which i think is going to happen soon enough.

[@ni9274]

If mbappe had bad stats people would flame him, so he cannot afford to not stand out

[@vittoor8062]

Are you kidding? Vinícius has been giving plenty of passes to Mbappé since the start of the season. In fact, I've seen Mbappé many times not passing to his teammates.

[@yeonlee5]

@@vittoor8062 both of them aren't. In front of goal, when the other is in a better position or when it's on the break, they try to look for other options

[@kwanlinus6999]

Carlo Ancelotti never wanted to bring Mbappe over to Madrid. The Mbappe Saga was essentially (circa 2017-2024) the story of two egoistic old men, Florentino Perez and Nasser Al-Khelafi, and Mbappe's transfer was much less about suiting Real Madrid's tactical needs than to satisfy Florentino's ego. Mbappe, in the eyes of the two old men, is seen as little more than a pawn to undermine each other's reputation and prestige on the international football stage, especially during conflicts (Super League Proposal). Through this, Mbappe (and his mother) were able to exploit and manipulate both parties to their greatest personal benefit.

[@Ap0r3Dist3inHS]

Great comment. I was always adamant in the belief that Perez made a fool out of himself for insisting on Mbappe. Especially after he lead Real Madrid on, only to extend with PSG shortly after. Isn’t it humiliating for an allegedly respectable man and president like Perez to be done like that?

[@kwanlinus6999]

@@Ap0r3Dist3inHS In the end, both Florentino and Nasser lost out. One got a player on huge wages that didn't suit his team's needs, the other lost it's only star player (at this point, Marseille have more (in)famous players than PSG) in a team and league (Ligue 1) that is becoming increasingly irrelevant

[@Jordan-u2x]

interesting opinion even tho you reaching imo, it's still a interesting take

[@ninanano]

@@Jordan-u2x lmao exactly this comment. Reaching, but it was interesting to read

[@issahgyandi3365]

@@kwanlinus6999 So many of you muppets know nothing at all. "Increasingly irrelevant" he says, while teams such as Rennes, Marseille, Monaco and Lyon are spending record sums and PSG are, generally, playing great football. Just tell the world you only follow football for the biggest names. It's easier than illuminating your ignorance.

[@gabrielguerrero3404]

It’s almost like psg fans said this from the beginning and no one cared. I watched PSG while Messi and Neymar were there and mbappe messed up the whole chemistry between them

[@ninanano]

You're still throwing this tantrum and there's not a single player in that club that has bad things to say about Mbappé except for Neymar, and even Neymar has only thrown shade on Instagram and made faces like the btch he is. Staff, coaches, Messi himself, have all said nothing but nice things about him. Surely Neymar is such a knight in shining armor he's the only one brave enough to stand up for dictator Mbappé, let's give Neymar the Nobel prize!

[@leonthethird7494]

Where is the evidence.

[@UnKnowmanNumber2]

MSN IS THE EVIDENCE​@@leonthethird7494

[@gabrielguerrero3404]

@@leonthethird7494 you clearly never watched the PSG games. If you go by stats alone, Real Madrid aren’t doing bad at all and same with the number of goals by mbappe, you’d think he’s doing pretty well but if you watch the games then you’d know they’re not playing well

[@protocetus499]

​​​@@gabrielguerrero3404 PSG have too much attacker, even the DF have inclination for forward press. They need midfield in pitch like Pogba

[@chibifirestorm]

his complete lack of any defensive workrate whatsoever is a massive problem, he doesn't even run and attempt to press, he'll just walk around

[@lucinakipalacios2631]

Exactly, Real Madrid rely on everyone doing many jobs, everyone is versatile. They all attack and they all defend.

[@chibifirestorm]

@@lucinakipalacios2631 i've watched Real Madrid in person a couple of times this season and if you watch him you'll be astounded by how little running he does.He's walking or literally standing still not even moving when they don't have the ball

[@Vizeh]

Especially in this day and age, luxury players aren’t really allowed anymore

[@matanoto]

@@chibifirestorm exactly

[@SemmeralddynamicsBaammy]

​@@Vizeh The only star player who really still does this is Haaland, but when he wants to track back, he does, and he's good at dealing with set pieces, so it's not that bad. I'm not trying to compare, but someone with a build like Mbappe doesn't really contribute anything off the ball unless it's pressing.

[@nathanb286]

I think Mbappe himself has said he prefers to play out wide. When you have so many players of this caliber, that want to play in the same spaces, they will both be less effective

[@BazKepple]

Yh but vini plays there and is outstanding from the last 3 seasons. Mbappe just coming in aint taking his spot. Mbappe is cooked put him back on loan to psg or sum

[@sports_.thoughtss]

@@BazKepple bro what

[@BazKepple]

@@sports_.thoughtss hes not performing well as a n9 he aint taking the n7 and he not taking the wing off vini hes done for

[@MercWTM2]

I think the problem is that Madrid have way too much quality who can all play similar roles in the team

[@Vizeh]

Almost like they are so spoilt for choice that they can’t select just one option, the team is so intricate

[@MercWTM2]

@@Vizeh it’s frightening

[@Mihlali_Madz]

If carlo was strict on positioning maybe mbappe and vini jr would play proper like....Carlo could easily tell vini and mbappe what area they should occupy but no Carlo would rather follow his philosophy of giving players to much freedom then restrict players to a proper position so they could easily be effective

[@FootballYankee]

Bench Bellingham, pay Brahim. Bellingham had careless loss of possessions yesterday.

[@matiasescobar8730]

@@Vizeh Rather than having many options, they have many equal options of similar quality that get in each other's way if they are all on the field.

[@gokuya4272]

The thing i disagree with is saying vini is a left forward. vini is a touch line winger, beats his men, puts passes into the box and can come up with goals. if u watch madrid u would have seen how many times mbappe is not finishing the chances vini is creating for him .

[@matanoto]

Fr

[@young_d_rose]

hahah if u fuckers watched Messi in psg u would know how many chances he prepared for Mbappe only for him to miss an aboslute sitter. he could have had 2 times the assists if not more

[@KeaganStrydom]

That’s probably because he isn’t a number 9 naturally

[@matanoto]

@@KeaganStrydom Yup

[@gokuya4272]

@KeaganStrydom still doesn't excuse the amount he misses he is not Darwin Nunez maybe it'd changed as the season goes on but for now he deserves criticism

[@kyriakos02]

Never forget that Liam was a footballer for Burnley FC.

[@Vizeh]

THANK YOU!

[@talk844]

​@@Vizehwhat position did you play bro?

[@havoc3-243]

@@talk844 defender (fullback iirc)

[@Nooberio24]

@@havoc3-243 Did he ever play profesionally? and whats his full name so i can look him up

[@jonallen-dt2ui]

Who did you play for?

[@info0]

I would say the biggest problem Real has is not top 3 in attack. It's lack of someone like Toni Kroos who dictated the tempo of the game, could hold up play, etc. They lack such player. Valverde is not that guy, Modric is aging, Camavinga and Tchouameni are not on that level yet. Now with Carvajal also gone for a season, I can already say, Barcelona is La Liga 2024/2025 champion.

[@ninanano]

Valverde CAN be that guy. Not as good as Kroos obviously, but he has the talent and will to do an amazing job in midfield

[@Zefo_No]

Probably why they keep trying to get Rodri.

[@FootballYankee]

Bellingham has proven to be someone that was only held up by Kroos. Outside of that, he is a very mediocre player.

[@bimapriambada1098]

​@@ninanano He's jack of all trade guy not maestro like Kroos, Xavi, or Pirlo. Losing Kroos is massive since not only he's the main playmaker but also the other midfielders havent mastered their role yet.

[@Ap0r3Dist3inHS]

@@ninanano No, he really can’t. You're confusing something. Valverde is the guy, but in a totally different aspect. It’s like saying Haaland can be for City what Aguero was for them. Great strikers, but also very different players.

[@lorenzobarriojimenez3952]

If you watch the games, they are horrendous. Individual quality is the only way to go, which Vini has been showing by himself all alone. Mbappe scored 2 tap ins 4-5 penalties and one good goal. He brings the team down and the moment Endrick plays you feel the improvement in that regard.

[@leonthethird7494]

Vini also had a poor first couple of games dont forget. Also super disingenuous to call those tap ins. Endrick started against lille. How did that go?

[@Dan-cg4xj]

@@leonthethird7494u js said a whole lot of nothing ☠️ difference is, endrick is an 18 yr kid w no european experience, whereas mbappe is 24-25 now, world cup finalist AND winner, CL runner up, etc. the fact endrick, with SUCH less game time is still being compared to mbappes performances to real madrid and yet being more effective is wild

[@leonthethird7494]

@@Dan-cg4xj Endrick has been good but he wouldnt be better than Mbappe.

[@nightcrawler2803]

Mbappe's signing means Ancelotti has to play a totally different formation & tactics, and unlike Benzema who dropped deep and made space for Vini & Rodrygo to make runs moving forward behind defenders, Mbappe doesn't like to do that, matter of fact he doesn't like to play as a 9 at all, thats why he plays on the wing for France, and he was annoyed with PSG's board when they insisted on playing him as a number 9, hence why they signed so many strikers during the time Mbappe was at PSG, to try and find him someone who could fill in that position, so he could play on the wing.

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

There's a saying in American Football that goes... "If you have 2 quarterbacks, you ain't got a quarterback" Meaning your top tier starter is everything. If you have 2 players in the same position, and there is only 1 ball, you'll only ever get 50% efficiency at the max. You're just robbing time from your starter. Giving him less reps, less practice, and subsequently less results. You're watering down your talent pool from within.

[@issahgyandi3365]

You're talking like football is the same as American football with "plays" and "possessions". Your 50% efficiency analogy makes absolutely no sense either for this reason.

[@meh1sbad]

@@issahgyandi3365he’s just trying to connect it something else obviously they aren’t going to be 100% the same he’s just saying if you have 2 “luxury” players in this case then your just watering down the talent of both of them because they aren’t getting as much chances as before

[@nativeyo]

​@@meh1sbad you hit the nail on the head and even the OPs last point is his main point. @issahgyandi3365 just wants to make an argument for arguments sake

[@Devster_10]

The problem is that Mbappe and Vini are drifting to the left side in the final third at times. His movement is not positively impacting games and didn’t really adapt to the team by now. I still think he will explode this season when he fully adapts to this side.

[@ninanano]

Yes it's unfortunate that with the international competitions they couldn't start training together sooner, also, no pre-season together. So we're basically wtinessing a sort of "pre-season" now. But a player who just got there shouldn't bare the responsibility of carrying the entire team. He'll adapt solely because he seems to really want to make it work, that's a good sign at least He also had a couple injuries I don't think he feels 100% confident

[@sports_.thoughtss]

The problem is way deeper than Mbappe alone

[@NO-ge6ci]

It's not only a positional problem because many times he had the chance to play from the wings but his shots are always blocked and he doesn't win 1v1 like he used to, he seems slow in those situations

[@BazKepple]

He should have never left psg, he was the man, they was gon build the team around him. Why leave your position as a star to go be an extra in someone elses team. This move just massacred his career

[@DiegoAGdb]

I think the real problem is the midfield. Valverde can’t do everything by himself and modric can’t play all game.

[@Eldriitch]

And it's the forwards responsibility to adapt to that, ultimately. You'd be seeing better football if they signed a good striker from the championship in all honesty. Of course, they get by with results from individual talent, but it's just not team football.

[@RasenRendanX]

So.. What does Jude do?

[@brightonpius5193]

At the moment Cole Palmer is waaay better than Mbappe

[@KJ28554]

Bit of a random comparison

[@Vizeh]

Two very different players to be fair haha

[@usayts45788]

As an Arsenal fan, I agree that Cole Palmer is way better than Mbaypal, but... I'm 100% certain that Cole will get a career-ending injury whose cause may or may not be an off-camera foul by Havertz in their game against Arsenal in November.

[@stativvenom729]

@@usayts45788 mbappe is a much better player

[@usayts45788]

@@stativvenom729 I said it as a joke read the comment again.

[@seneveshemisi6820]

Mbappe has been ok. Not trash but certainly not good. In the beginning he was awful but he’s definitely improved since the start of the season. My problem is, his decision making sometimes is poor, he could definitely pass the ball more and he’s not executing on chances. You failed to mention that most of his La Liga goals are penalties and every reason I just stated is why that is. I don’t think he’s a bad player but he definitely should not be starting. We are better without him, we won last year without him. We played athletico Madrid without him and if it wasn’t for the fans we would have won. I think he should come off the bench or play weaker teams for now until he’s more accustomed to his position and La liga.

[@matanoto]

@@seneveshemisi6820 nope he was bad again vs villareal that’s his third game that he’s played really badly in. (Ghosting) btw ghosting means playing really bad, it doesn’t and shouldn’t mean playing average like people use it.

[@matanoto]

@@seneveshemisi6820 Your right and also he needs to drop back more for sure

[@tariqomer4678]

​@@matanoto Ghosting means barely affecting the game. Thus the term "ghosting" which comes from "ghost"

[@matanoto]

@@tariqomer4678so does playing average count as ghosting then?

[@tariqomer4678]

@@matanoto Depends on the impact

[@whyyymeeeee]

00:13 we're with you bro don't worrry

[@Midtable1881]

Imagine the madness if Real suddenly have a UCL drought over his tenure like the old galacticos between 2003-2013 did?

[@noname-ot7vd]

They win too much. I'd like to see madrid repeat that 2003-2013 era again.

[@memescookiess2203]

@@noname-ot7vdno pls

[@anshchhabra93]

What krooos is for Real Madrid was what Xavi was to Barcelona. Both of them were seriously seriously missed. Man. I’m a Barcelona fan but Toni Kroos passes to them too would be like totally mind blowing. Idk why he retired

[@BrasilianFury]

For a pace merchant, Mbappé barely presses and his whole "I must play the way I prefer to play" approach by being on the left is something that I feel will do Real Madrid more harm than good. Just let Vini, Rodrygo and my boy Endrick cook, Perez.

[@ni9274]

he does presses, just feel like people have completely forgotten what mbappe was doing before the two last game that he played while still being injured

[@leontogbe4925]

@@ni9274lol, he plays while still being injured. Who ask him to do it ? And what has he contributed to the team then?

[@ni9274]

@@leontogbe4925 Likely the coach and the real Madrid staff, he's contributing in attack and he had a few occasions If they want him to get better he need playtime

[@ColePalmertheFrostMonarch]

And their refs

[@MVsekai114]

I told a friend before he was announced at Bernabeu: "what if he's cursed, and now RM won't win an UCL?" I was kinda joking with that

[@matanoto]

He’s literally cursed

[@Ascending11]

I was thinking that when he signed.

[@matengaelia5306]

@@matanoto pessi fan shut up

[@zorashki]

Nah Madrid too good... with or without Mbappe.. they always find a way to win with Individuals, Like Valverde shooting from outside, or Endrick scroing from nothing or Billingham like last season etc.

[@leontogbe4925]

He is not cursed. He is just not too good. Limited technically and tactically. A part from speed , give me one thing, Mbappe has more than the majority of players?

[@koolmaaan]

Then they shouldn’t have signed Mbappe if they already had vini in the same position. Vini was arguably the best player in the world last year

[@chickenabuser5474]

Although he will win the balondor , I don't think he was the best player honestly. You can say he was the best R.M player but I would still say someone like Kane was the best footballer last year. Even if he unfortunately didn't win anything cuz he is unlucky, He sure made professional football look like child's play. Scoring goals for fun .

[@geriatricvicenarian8208]

​@@chickenabuser5474Nah Vini was Madrid's main playmaker last season. And he turned up big time in those knockout matches.

[@ezraezra2928]

The new midfield system is a major problem for Real Madrid right now. There's no great Real Madrid midfielders that could match the same level as Toni Kroos. Luka Modric isn't young anymore and hasn't played all games. That issue, coupled with their defence system now being hampered by Dani Carvajal's season-ending injury, could affect Real Madrid's season a lot!

[@itnow]

Psg and french team spoiled him by building the team around him. Now he found it hard to adapt to his team like a rich kid thrown in the suburbs.

[@ToastyPosty]

We are still missing a Kroos replacement. Vini and Rodrygo drifted wide and we had a good through ball passer- Kroos. Now, we have three towards who drift, and Bellingham wants to step up, so we have Valvarde and Modric trying to play passes they can't. We have no backups for anyone since we haven't spent enough on other players- we brought in Endrick, Mbappe, and some youth guys- no Nacho replacement or backup CB, no new CM

[@Eldriitch]

There is no Kroos replacement. Anyone who can do what he did basically isn't for sale, even for Madrid because that kind of ability in the midfield completely defines a team, and there isn't a number of millions that's giving that up if you're succeeding (hence why Saudi never really got that kind of player). It's the responsibility of the forwards to adapt to the service they can get. A striker from the championship being served by Valverde and the like would get better results in the long run. Not up to Madrid's old standard for sure, but better. It takes time to transition a team from old to younger players and at the moment they're relying entirely on individual brilliance and although it's doing them very well, it's just not consistent enough in the long term especially if someone gets hurt.

[@ToastyPosty]

@@Eldriitch yeah well our towards don't adapt. Next best option I can think of at the moment is Joao Neves- versatile, young, plays hard, well rounded, and plays for the team. But PSG won't let him. Madrid spent basically no money on players last season. A shame

[@styrishfernando1849]

The problem is the left wing I said it in the past in a argument you need players for roles Left wing-uses left spaces Right wing-uses right spaces Forward-attacks from middle This allows for midfielders to be unpredictable let's say a forward pass is coming from modric in real madrid system the pass always comes to left wing so a interception is likely so if a ball goes to valverde the next pass is left side Example of the normal system is Liverpool Jota uses middle diaz left salah right so macallister next pass is wide array And In real madrid situation you have vini mbappe rodrygo(to a extent) all 3 forwards at one area so defenders can basically do double duty a person marking vini can block a shot from mbappe easily

[@vman99]

I think people are forgetting they lost Toni Kroos as well. He was so important to Real Madrid. So there’s yet another change to the team

[@theweekndxo7438]

I find that some clubs fixate on a player and no matter how much time goes by, they'll still go and buy them even tho they realistically don't fit. Madrid did that with Hazard in 2019, wanted him for a couple years and bought him at 29, way too old to build a team around. United did it with Sancho, wanted him in 20/21, didn't happen and still forced it in 21/22. Now Mbappe and Madrid. There was no point in getting him after Vini popped off, but hey they're the galaticos am I right? They did it with Beckham as well and had to force him into CM because Figo was on the right.

[@pavix873]

As a Real Madrid fan, the problem isn't Kylian but the midfieled still hasn't fully addapted since Kroos left. It lacks creativity and makes stupid mistakes

[@sports_.thoughtss]

Yes I hate the fact they’re only tryna blame Mbappe because he just got there

[@matanoto]

@@sports_.thoughtss cuz he’s “Mbappe” he needs to take responsibility as well

[@Nooberio24]

@@matanoto oh not this guy again

[@Nooberio24]

Valverde has been doing pretty well tho

[@matanoto]

@@Nooberio24 ????

[@stevenmacdonald9619]

Liam Vizeh has attained a higher level of football understanding. He knows what an 'inside forward' is. A much better position than anything entitled 'false'

[@ilad_sinned]

2:54 second best??? He is the best player on the team hands down

[@FoxesInferno]

The weakest link with Cavani, Neymar & Di Maria was Mbappe, the weakest link of the Messi & Neymar attack was also Mbappe. Now it seems the weakest link in yet another star studded attack is Mbappe, hes lazy, selfish, & cares more about how hes perceived than actually being worth a damn

[@sports_.thoughtss]

That’s not true when Messi Mbappe and Neymar were together Mbappe out performed both of them

[@George-jc3mt]

Clear agenda against him he was the best player out of Messi and Neymar wtf

[@nyiridandiorlando4757]

My honest opinion is Rodrygo playin Striker , sort of like an R9 and Mbappé playing RW like the Monaco days, if that clicked, they would literally be unbeatable.

[@larryzona6666]

Problem is, Mbappé doesn't move if he doesn't have the ball which is a product of French football. I'm French and I can tell you, football here is considered a no-contact sport for referees make any sort of contact, you get a booking. Game doesn't rely on trying to regain possession by being aggressive, it's more of a sit back show and wait for the opportunity to intercept a pass. His game relies on having the ball delivered to him, running forward, getting into 1v1 situation vs the fullback and be given an advantage because how do you stop a skillfull player like Mbappé if the smallest contact becomes a foul in France? Now he's in Spain which is a pacier and more physical league and since he doesn't move, he's not gaining as much success as he would've.

[@ninanano]

That's very interesting! Should be a matter of him only getting used to it though, no? Also, La Liga referees aren't any better 😅

[@dipaulo0]

This simply isn’t true hope no ones actually believing this 😭

[@ni9274]

He played two world cup and went to the final each time

[@issahgyandi3365]

This is complete cap, lmfao. See Monaco, Marseille, PSG, BREST etc? What are you talking about. Ligue 1 is known for its PHYSICALITY. Every player that's ever played there says this. Now you're trying to tell the world that La Liga is more physical than Ligue 1? I can't with you ignorant muppets....

[@issahgyandi3365]

@@dipaulo0 He's clueless. I've never read so much waffling in one comment.

[@MEZINGO]

In the Lille Champions League match, I swear I only saw him once on the ball. He passed it back, and that was it. But let's be fair the entire squad was like boys against men. Lille anailathed the energy in that team

[@Jeff_2x]

This is Mbappe fault he knew what he was getting into. He’s implied for years that his preferred position on pitch is on the left well unfortunately for him that’s where Vini is at his best. Now he’s playing a striker role that limits his creativity. I like Mbappe a lot but this is all on him he should’ve went to a better team situation that would MAXIMIZE his capabilities instead of the going to Madrid because of the allure of Madrid.

[@iori1303]

Real doesnt need Mbappe to win the CL, but Mbappe needs Real to win the CL...

[@hermit8244]

I feel the issue being undermined is that the lopsidedness of the squad would (and did lemme itself last year with Rodrygo drifting central from the right and Vini hugging the left) lemme itself to a quick switch by Kroos to Carvajal who's crossing generates high xG chances. With Kroos gone, we have defensive solidity with the tchou and Valverde double pivot but they're speed of distribution is terrible, taking 3-5 passes to do what Kroos did in one. Valverde for some reason isn't roaming the left half space, even when Rodrigo usually drifts central, leaving a poor outlet pass to Carvajal and resulting in a lot of turnovers, ones that admittedly they are both great at nipping in the bud. I feel despite the penalty given away, the now healthy midfield pairing of Camavinga and Jude alongside the double pivot are showing more cohession, but this means Rodrygo and Arda will have to be dropped to allow Valverde to play a hybrid Rm out possession/Cdm in possession. The Vini Mbappe pairing is budding but looks rough when Vini is in balloon dor form and mbappe is slightly underperforming. Hopefully the international break will help reset the team.

[@tarikvehab8938]

-bad defensive work rate -constantly switching to another already occupied position(lw) -bad dribbling, especially first touch Imo one possible solution would be to switch vini to play more centrally as he has shown he can stay in a position and even play well in that striker position.

[@francisugboko]

To be fair he had played in a farmer's league all his career so adapting to a much tougher league will certainly prove difficult.

[@Vizeh]

I don’t know if thats an excuse for a player at his level though?

[@akaInfamous]

​@Vizeh Maybe you have a point, in terms of it not being a vaild excuse. But he's not the first nor last world class player to play in another league and struggle a bit.

[@talk844]

I think it's just a phase for him. For a player of his calibre he will definitely get back

[@issahgyandi3365]

When will you muppets stop with these nonsense takes? All the leagues from which your favourite league's stars come from are "farmers leagues", such as ligue 1, Eredivisie, Serie A Brazil, the Argentine league etc., yet 9/10 times they go straight there and eat your leagues. Your leagues are comprised almost entirely of "farmer's league" players. Make it make sense, you muppet.

[@FCSprinty]

He's got an ego but he is a great player. I think he should play up top and maybe be a mentor to Endrick

[@ninanano]

I do think he's already said he wants to be a mentor for Endrick, or Endrick said it

[@franksamsi7610]

Toni Kroos is what we are missing.

[@joshchesang]

It takes time to build chemistry

[@Reaper_ginger]

Real Madrid’s first mistake was signing Mbappe in the first place. What they needed was an elite right winger with a wand of a left foot. They should’ve signed Antony really

[@DANHAW2]

Let's be honest here bro. Don't try to be a smartass. Mbappe, when at his best, is arguably the best player in the world. Now his not at his best, but will definitely get there soon. Please don't mix Antony to this debate. Thanks bro. No hate tho.

[@Reaper_ginger]

@@DANHAW2 you understand sarcasm yes?

[@GetachiMehari]

I think it is too early to make that judgement, although as a Madrid fan i expect a bit more from him. Hopefully it gets better with time, but to be honest i am not happy with his performance so far. I feel like as a fan, i dont see him making enough effort in creating chances, and he seems predictable and a bit sloppy. I am slightly biased, because i like they way Vini plays, and i feel like He( Mbappe) expects to be spoon fed and not participate so much in creating chances.

[@matanoto]

Way more from him.*

[@matanoto]

Okay because yes his finishing has been bad, he’s not fitting in the system, most of his goals have been pens, but he has that quality to score goals. I think the main problem like you said is effort, he needs to create more chances and score more it seems like he’s not putting it his all But MAINILY he needs to drop back, that’s a main problem that he can fix and that has led to attacks from the opposition

[@Asad97654]

​@@matanoto nah i think it has been a problem of tempo. Kroos is one of the greatest midfielders and one of a kind so it'll be hard to replace him. The thing is he is known to be with the quality of Messi like creating goals out of nothing and in this team goal aren't a problem so he needs to adjust a little.

[@matanoto]

@@Asad97654 yes of course no kroos is the biggest problem because that’s one of the best midfielders oat, but Mbappe is also a big problem

[@Asad97654]

@@matanoto yeah he has been pretty disappointing since the euros. I think Haaland winning the treble and being 2nd to win ballon 'dor behind Messi has put a huge blow to Mbappe's future since he was the one to lead right after Messi and Ronaldo.

[@samcorson6510]

Really enjoying your videos lately man, not really watched you since I was in like year 7/8 tbh so fifa 17 days (I’m at uni now 20 years old). But recently you’ve been coming on my recommendations a lot and each video is class. Keep smashing it bro 👊🏼

[@ceenetgaza]

Kyllian is a very versaltile player ❤ i believe he could win the ballon dior someday he's very fast and technical at finishes

[@danielsempere3395]

Interesting question . Jude Bellingham last year got in and he was leading the team. Mbappe start was more like a problem to the team to fit him in. I believe with new UCL and La Liga injuries and being a long season they will eventually fit in a model and there will be room for all. But Mbappe needs to play more central if needed by the team. Also have great hopes on Endrick and Arda Guller. If Endrick explodes this years it will be Mbappe and 3 brasilians who eat grass so he will need to step up his game.

[@thetruth4654]

Yes it does, i don`t think Mbappe makes Madrid better. Vini Jr, Mbappe, Rodrygo all want to go the left heck even Bellingham sometimes roams into the left sided areas of the pitch. Mbappe also isn`t a true striker, Haaland is, so even if City aren`t great at outlizing him as a transition player, Haaland is a Striker and he plays great as a striker, defenders respect that because he knows his position, Mbappe is a Winger that is forced to play as a striker out of necessity, not out of his quality as a striker.

[@matanoto]

Mbappes been behind Haaland for 2 years, if he keeps this up, Haaland will surpass him.

[@Asad97654]

I think even as a Madrid fan that even if Mbappe does fit Haaland will still surpass him in at least numbers (or at least in goals).

[@matanoto]

@@Asad97654 Yeah

[@matanoto]

@@GamerFrisco Because ever since the 2022 wc, Mbappes not reached to that run of form while Haaland had a monster 22/23 season, then both fell off in 23/24, but Haaland imo was a bit better but that’s very debatable. And so far Haalands comeback and he’s the best player in the world. And Mbappe ain’t even the best French player at Madrid. So haalands already starting to close the gap which is still large, but he’s slowly and surely getting better every week than mbappe

[@GamerFrisco]

@@matanoto I see you edited, so I deleted my reply. Haaland has been ahead of him since he joined Man City

[@matanoto]

@@GamerFrisco I didn’t edit but yeah your right, but since Mbappe has been better for longer he’s still better but every season it continues to get closer and closer between the two

[@Pvrge.]

Yes, even though he's a top 3 player in the world right now, he's an unbearable person to be around. Almost every player who ever played with him hated him afterwards. When he joined Real, Neymar called Vinicius to offer him his condolences, saying that playing with Mbappé is unbearable. Mbappe's narcissism is even bigger than his skill, somehow. You can also see this by just paying attention to him during matches when he's on the bench, whenever a Real Madrid player makes a mistake and they show Mbappé's face, you can him shake his head and behave like a literal child, probably cursing the guy in his head.

[@AdamSabir1]

What is the source for Neymar’s comment? Sounds like you just made it up.

[@ni9274]

The story about Neymar calling Vinicius is most likely false, the source is a french TV personality that is known to made up shit like this to generate drama, this guy is also associated with the french far-right that have lately been hating on Mbappe for something he said during the Euro. What are your evidence of Mbappe being "unbearable person to be around" and being hated by almost every player who ever played with him ? Also narcissism ? This just sound like you're some dedicated Mbappe hater So you're some type of body language expert now ?

[@ni9274]

@@AdamSabir1 A french tv personality linked to the far-right and that loves lying

[@AdamSabir1]

@@ni9274 How sad then. From the beginning it looks like a story manufactured by a child who likes a different player more than MBappe. Everything I’ve seen of him off the pitch demonstrates he is not that bad of a guy.

[@Mamutels]

⁠@@AdamSabir1it’s just a Madrid hater and I’m saying this as a Barca fan

[@Toxxsicklemons]

Vini jr >> Mbappe Vini is more creative Mbappe is a great scorer

[@nolangericke3547]

Reminds me of griezmann to Barcelona. Knew all along that wouldn’t work cuz him and Messi wanna play in similarish areas, and he thrives having traditional number 9 next to him. Mbappe a very similar issue, but swap Messi for Vinicius

[@shrobee]

its not just mbappe and Vini being in the same space, Jude also likes drifting into the left half space further congesting that space

[@matanoto]

The scariest thing is that Mbappe hasnt played good for France, he had a horrid game vs Italy which actually led to him being benched vs Belgium.

[@sports_.thoughtss]

No he was benched Vs Belgium to rest

[@matanoto]

@@sports_.thoughtssokay but he was crap vs Italy he ghosted hard. And I don’t use the word ghosting usually

[@Asad97654]

​@@sports_.thoughtsseven if you forget that, Mbappe was very disappointing at the euros

[@matanoto]

@@Asad97654 haaland had more goals in 2 games vs Kosovo and Denmark, (4) than Mbappe did all tournament

[@sports_.thoughtss]

@@Asad97654 true but he was the one of the main reasons France got so far in the euros

[@_atg_976]

Mbappe to madrid was not a good move imo. Not because mbappa isn't world class, but because he's not the kind of player you want in that position. His world class displays have never been as a number 9 poacher but as a forward with space to work on the wing. He will definitely adapt to that position of course. But whether we will see the level of performance expected of him is left to be seen.

[@Ivan-df2gf]

Madrid should’ve signed Kane,Julian Alvarez, Vlahovic, Osimhen instead of Mbappe

[@LayLow12EC]

The quality of play has drastically dropped so in the short run yes but in the long run once they figure out a system for them to flourish they’ll be again challenging for everything.

[@moze2324]

he's obviously a left winger but vini is there, he just looks a completely different player

[@lulamaanderson]

He is still new, give him a season or two...

[@matanoto]

true true but it is Madrid, you can’t just wait it’s almost 1/4th of the season and el Classico is coming up Something has to change

[@ninanano]

@@matanoto lol you must not remember that period after Cristiano left

[@matanoto]

@@ninanano that’s why they sacked managers and went through a downfall

[@ni9274]

@@matanoto And the two last match he was playing while still injured, there is no way his injury completely heal it likely just healed enough to allow him to run.

[@Mebsuta]

Mbappe is a great player, he fits Madrid well, and whatever issues you see in Madrid are subproducts of Kroos retiring. There's no in-field coach anymore. There's no play orchestrator anymore. We have world class strikers with no one to link up with them.

[@ColePalmertheFrostMonarch]

They still have the refs

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

Does M'Bappe still own his shares in PSG while playing for Madrid? How won't that be a conflict of interest if they play in champions league?

[@issahgyandi3365]

"Own shares in PSG". Are you drunk?

[@user-eq1jv3oo5v]

​@@issahgyandi3365are you?

[@scourgeeditsidk]

We needed someone else a true striker a clinical 9. Mbappe has said multiple times while he can play as a striker he prefers to play on the wing mostly on the left side. We should of got someone who can be laser focused of staying in the box and scoring even if it’s a tap in As a Madrid fan Mbappe is great but we needed someone else, which is why I been saying since 2023 we should get Haaland since he’s a clinical 9. Mbappe has just been bought for the name of a Galactico without realizing what type of goalscorer the team needs.

[@trevorstatham4451]

Haaland wasn't available

[@scourgeeditsidk]

@@trevorstatham4451 Yes but we could of gotten him this season. But we will get used to Mbappe once he settles in

[@trevorstatham4451]

@trevorstatham4451 200 million dollars in release fee plus his 25 million dollar a year salary at City, we're looking at 300 million dollar payout for a 5 year deal. Don't think so

[@trevorstatham4451]

@scourgeeditsidk not to forget his bonuses which would had an extra 100 million dollars over that 300. Unwise

[@sports_.thoughtss]

if rodrygo leaves madrid could try to get a 9 and put mbappe on the right but if not i think theyre gonna try to make it work with mbappe as striker.

[@ChilltopiaMusic]

The thing is Mbappe wants to play as the main man but he also wants to play for the biggest clubs in football. But the problem is the biggest clubs typically contain more than one star player making it difficult for him to get what he wants. This is why Neymar and Messi left PSG. You realized how the Messi, Suarez and Neymar trio worked so well. They were all unselfish and had a good chemistry on and off the field. Mbappe is fearful of being overshadowed by the other players.

[@stevenmacdonald9619]

Sometimes stars don't shine as much, when you put them besides stars that can shine as brightly.

[@nifemiwlv]

nice video, but why didnt you credit The Athletic for the Mbappé & Vini 2D animations?

[@geriatricvicenarian8208]

Mbappe is Madrid's second best player. Let's get that straight. Vini's often the best even when he doesn't score.

[@sports_.thoughtss]

I agree I just want mbappe to win the ballon dor at madrid because hes my favorite player

[@damage678]

This is why versatility is so important. You look on great partnerships between Di Maria and Messi….Neymar with Coutinho and Suarez with Cavani. All players who operated in the same areas and nobody suffered. Build a bond off the pitch. Makes the onfield experience more seem less.

[@TheThemrcool24]

I dont think that Real is second in the league because of Mbappe, but more because Barcelona is very strong at the moment under Hansi Flick.

[@spartacist101]

There were quite a lot of people, with some tactical nous, who were under the impression that Mbappé would struggle at Real purely because plays in the same area as Vinicius Junior. There was some debate whether this would happen as Ancelotti is a great tactician, but it seems so far that their worries weren’t without merit. They may be able to limp past smaller teams in La Liga, but they will struggle in the big games especially in the Champions League unless they change something tactically

[@shinvelcro]

Its madrid. Losing that one game, they will buy a whole new squad for next season.

[@namelessjames87]

I honestly still cannot see what is special about Mbappe. Hyped up player

[@joanmartinsrz6362]

there is so much issues Mbappe does not press, lack of creative midfielder, lack of chemistry between vini/mbappe, and lack of finish the chances that he gets from vini that are actually a lot

[@joanmartinsrz6362]

and the team is facing way more than just that to begin with so long season ahead...

[@btron1018]

for a club as big as real madrid they surely have great tactical knowledge and coaching stuff but playing with tactics like say man city will involve players to give away for other players who are better in that position. man city not only have a player for every position but also have players for different tactics. so even if madrid comes up with tactics, vini or mbappe shud give way for another or they shud find a way for both of them to somehow play together. neither of the options are likely to happen

[@therightrabbit]

There's an air of smugness around this team. He sure adds arrogance, ego and a sense of false superiority. Not good for a footballer, in my opinion. But I could be totally off...

[@JosephP6108]

Bellingham is better than mbappe. Mabppe has a huge ego, he believes that he was going to walk into Madrid and be the star of the team, and now he had been quite underwhelming. Bellingham is a better person , player, and deserves a ballon dor more.

[@ivandankob7112]

People complain that he drifts left the same way Vinicious does, but they kinda forget this is exactly what Vinicious and Rodrygo did last season and it was effective. It seems that their chemistry with Mbappe is simply lacking

[@Ethan-vu5xx]

i’ll be back when this vid ages like milk😊

[@EnriqueBartulac]

The difference between the galacticos and others Madrid teams are that super star comparisons are often made when the majority of the lineup nowadays where not fro the academy, but still Madrid turned them into world class players from talents. Rodrygo, Vini, Valverde, Camavinga, and other smart signings that were good are now considered some of the best in their positions like Rüdiger who was great for Chelsea but has reached even higher heights. There are super star purchases like any big club, but it was a similar situation with Madrid in 2009-2011. People thought it was a recovery era from the galacticos but they continued to struggle in the shadow of Barça and Ronaldo as a striker was doubted when he has more an inverted winger at United. Ronaldo and Mbappé are different players, but fans shouldn’t assume to early. It takes time especially in a team under a manager that is often changing tactics. It was similar at the beginning of last season without Mbappé and the criticism was a lack of a CF. Then by October things completely changed. I’m not saying what will happen, just don’t assume.

[@ddandan100]

Vini jr is Real Madrid’s best player! Thirteen trophies including 2 champions league and 3 league trophies say it all. Can’t listen to anymore after the first few minutes.

[@margieladaVeT420]

U couldn’t wait to post this

[@kayembamvula5495]

I honestly feel like control on midfield is more of an issue. Mbappe and Vini may be able to sort this issue out over time. They should focus on getting a 6/8 who can knit things together.

[@kakao6125]

remember, CR first season on real Madrid was his lowest rated in terms of scoring and goal contribution, but then u look at his later years. I'll realistically give him 2 full season to prove himself

[@alexstevanic2286]

Benzema also always wandered to the left. Mbappe and vini just have to get used to each other, that's all.

[@buffaloslamhd8380]

Congrats on appearing on The Irish Guy’s channel

[@Candeias8]

I really think that Mbappe ain't problem, is just a "click" issue, like u said they have a lot of creativity on the left side of the pitch and sometimes it's really hard to get the coesian earlier on the season, and we should not forget that Mbappe was very late to the Real Madrid pre-season. If anything Real Madrid is really missing Kroos 'cause Valverde is a phenomenal player but he is like a box-to-box or a right interior and not that playmaker that Kroos was, Jude is really good but the amount of games on last season seems to hit him differently. But overall i think Madrid is fine they just need to create routines and keep aflot, Barça dont have that deepness on the squad and in January they can feel really tired and Atletico is Atletico they will choke like they allways do. Great vid btw , i dont ussualy comment a lot but i really like ur vision of football and sports in general, keep the great work man.

[@matiasescobar8730]

I don't think Madrid will be able to stay undefeated either because they have always been trying to get the result back from their opponent's mistakes or brilliant moments, now more than ever. La Liga is probably very closed off, and Barcelona is recovering a good and necessary depth after the international break with Olmo, Gavi and Fermin, and Araujo and Cristóbal are returning fresh after December.

[@emil5851]

I wouldn't say worse, it's just there is not enough resources for him to shine, and he ends up overfocusing on scoring (often from bad positions). He needs to accept that he is a part of the system now, a cog in the machine.

[@seneveshemisi6820]

Not enough recourse?

[@emil5851]

@@seneveshemisi6820 What I mean by that is Real's attacking potential is distributed among Vini, Mbappe, Rodrygo, Valverde, Bellingham. It's not funneled into 1 striker like in the case of Haaland in City. You can only have so much shots and scoring chances in the game, if you have too many stars, they trip on each other (in this case Mbappe and Vini literally)

[@MrMultichris234]

Real made a huge addition in Mbappe. But over the summer the suffered a key loss. Toni Kroos retiring turned out to be a bigger blow anyone expected

[@victoracalderon]

It's definitely a fair assessment. However, I think the real problem may lie in the midfield. There isn't a player who can bring the ball forward out the back. This often leads to playing long balls forward, but it's ineffective since most teams don't press high in the field against Madrid due to the front 2 or 3; especially in La Liga. Carletto has quite the puzzle to solve this season.

[@jops1004]

He’s not the problem, the whole team isn’t playing up to the standards. But... he’s definitely not meeting expectations. His first touch isn’t that good, he's doesn't press, and when he attempts to score, it's most often straight to the keeper, but I’m still hoping and waiting to see what he can really do. Vinicius is a much better player currently. His most recent goal was beautiful!

[@sSSJ4UI]

The absence of Kroos is the real problem for Madrid. The midfield looks lost without him

[@Tigerheiress]

Literally yes. They are going to have to sub on and off for another or have one play against one team then the other. Its dumb trying to play them both at this point

[@GoutamGhosh44556]

7 goals but almost half of them are penalties. Lewa has scored the same number of Non penalty goals as Mbappe in a single match. 60-70% people called out before that Mbappe at Bernabue wouldn't work. If all 4 of your attacking minded players occupy the same part of pitch you have a big problem. And I don't wanna hear any bs in the name of adaptation.Dani Olmo who everybody called a disaster signing as 3 goals in 2.5 matches with also a new coach. Raphina under Flick has been flying so is the whole Barcelona squad. In terms of adapting Barca should have had the worst reaction. They went from learning tika taka from the pre historic days to being the best attacking minded team in Europe. And after WC final 22 he hasn't been the same. I guess that is one flaw of being a pace merchant.

[@dionpace22]

Neymar & Ronaldo don't track back= they're lazy. Messi & Mbabbe don't track back = well that doesn't necessarily mean that they're lazy🙄🤦🏿‍♂️

[@el_cebador]

the solution is not mbappe,its an unselfish #9 and a reconstruction of that defense and midfield

[@sports_.thoughtss]

the solution is trent they need trent bad