I would honestly have loved to see Dalton return for a third film, as He is My Favorite Bond, and License to Kill is my Favorite Bond Movie
@Mr170519632 жыл бұрын
Me, too!
@PerfectTroy12 жыл бұрын
Aside from the weak villain, Living Daylights is one of my favorite Bond movies. Dalton was good!
@edwardlees45852 жыл бұрын
He was definitely the most faithful Bond to the books and my favourite actor to play the role.
@QT56562 жыл бұрын
LTK is one of my favorites too.
@jonathanorozco8075 Жыл бұрын
El mejor Bond Best James Bond ever Grettings from 🇨🇷
@PhilWare12 жыл бұрын
Dalton is by far my favorite. Closest portrayal to the literary character and a real ruthless edge. A real shame he couldn't do more.
@ArmandoFernandez-kt8wiАй бұрын
Dalton remains my favorite Bond as he is the ONLY one of the 007 actors that read the Fleming books.No wonder Dalton remains the BEST of the Bonds.
@MutantsInDisguise2 жыл бұрын
As a rookie Bond fan, I quickly loved Timothy Dalton's James Bond. He read the books and made 007 a complex character; not only was he the cold and hardened agent we know and love, but his Bond was not without feelings, wanting to stay away from his job, but exacting revenge on those who hurt the peoole he cared about.
@thursoberwick19482 жыл бұрын
This is said quite a lot, but he doesn't have the, ahem, old fashioned views that Fleming's Bond has.
@Betta662 жыл бұрын
More Dalton Bond could never be a bad thing to me
@DavidSmith-fs5qj2 жыл бұрын
It's all about opinions, more Dalton for me would have been terrible, couldn't stand his potrayal of Bond.
@thursoberwick19482 жыл бұрын
@@DavidSmith-fs5qj Me too, even though I like him in other things.... having said that, I watched the Living Daylights again recently and enjoyed it up until the stupid Afghan bit. The Afghan bit and Licence to Kill both got into 80s drug film territory except without the cool parts of Live and Let Die.
@fSebastianRe2 жыл бұрын
@@thursoberwick1948 Even know Dalton is not my favorite bond, I wish he got another bond film before goldeneye
@thursoberwick19482 жыл бұрын
@@fSebastianRe It's a shame he didn't, but other factors came along. The end of the Cold War for one.
@DanTheMan2150AD2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, a huge shame Dalton never got his third film. Pretty much robbed due to copyright dispute and poor marketing. He could have really gotten one hell of a send off in the role, he does make a quick cameo in Last Action Hero as Bond tho so there’s a silver lining.
@spencerkindra88222 жыл бұрын
He was definitely robbed of a third movie but of all the Bonds he ended his tenure with a pretty decent movie. Not counting On Her Majesty's Secret Service, if you think about all the previous and successive Bond actors' final movies, Diamonds Are Forever, A View To A Kill, Die Another Day, and No Time To Day, License To Kill is better than all of them. The only expectation could be NTTD but we'll have to wait and see how the years treat that movie. Though Daniel Craig unequivocally ended his Bond career on the best note since he chose to leave on a successful note and he had a lot of praise for his time as Bond.
@gkroll84672 жыл бұрын
@@spencerkindra8822 no time to woke sucked mate
@ΜακηςΛ-ε5ρ2 жыл бұрын
@@spencerkindra8822 The final films in the previous Bond actors is the 6th in Diamonds Are Forever, 7th in A View to a Kill, 4th in Die Another Day and 5th in No Time To Die. I believe Dalton should have play in ''A View To a Κill'' and in a 4th film in 1992 in celebration 30 years of Bond films.
@gkroll84672 жыл бұрын
You are correct
@KimBailey-w2g4 ай бұрын
@@ΜακηςΛ-ε5ρ that would’ve been awesome and actor literally looks like a character in the books really for the 30th celebration boy did they messed up big time
@AaronStark19932 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love both Dalton's portrayal of the character and the Asian settings in You Only Live Twice and Man with the Golden Gun. Having a Dalton film with Asian locations would have been really cool. A shame it didn't happen.
@thursoberwick19482 жыл бұрын
Agreed about the East Asian settings, they really work for me. Not so keen on Dalton as Bond, but like him in other roles.
@djdren2 жыл бұрын
"the living daylights" opening scene was so good ! oohh and not forgetting A-ha song ..
@thecelestialtoygazer78162 жыл бұрын
It's so depressing that Dalton never got a third Bond film, it would've been the best film trilogy of all time
@gregmize012 жыл бұрын
Your rendition of the song was awesome😂
@vladpiranha2 жыл бұрын
I love The Living Daylights. It had a gag here and there, but I love how it stayed very grounded. The first act - especially the defection scene - is fantastic.
@LordVolkov2 жыл бұрын
'Property of a Lady' to the tune of Goldeneye 🤣🤣🤣 Hilarious Jeroen! Really great editing to piece together a rough idea of these drafts! I would have loved another Dalton. CZJ would have been a great Bond girl.
@heavygamer932 жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity that we never got Alan Rickman as a Bond villain. Especially since the original Die Hard had three actors that has been in Dalton Bond films.
@Mark-lj1dj2 жыл бұрын
Go on who was the third one? I can only think of necros and Sanchez 🤔
@heavygamer932 жыл бұрын
@@Mark-lj1dj The other CIA agent that was with Robert Davi. He was one of the DEA agents in License to Kill.
@Mark-lj1dj2 жыл бұрын
@@heavygamer93 oh yeah 😂 so he was
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
@@Mark-lj1dj The other 'agent Johnston' [Grand L. Bush] from Die Hard is with Felix before the raid on Sanchez at the start of LTK as an in joke to Sanchez's actor.
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
Hans Gruber was accurately described as 'the best Bond villain who never actually appeared in a Bond film'!
@doctorvanya2 жыл бұрын
Some of this feels very weird to have been written for Dalton. The bits about Bond aging would have fit perfectly with his portrayal but there were far too many quips, which were never Dalton's strength.
@hilarioph2 жыл бұрын
At 4:23 I like the backlog from a script but sadly Timothy decided to quit to play Bond. But when I read it in this video. It was a great way for them to produce Goldeneye when the writers decided to use the lines from the movie at a time when Pierce Brosnan land the role of Bond in 1995
@garyv24982 жыл бұрын
I lost it with your rendition of Tina Turner's "Property of a Lady" too funny
@milesflanagan48992 жыл бұрын
Agree with you 100% and never knew about the 2 proposed Dalton follow ups. Always loved Dalton as Bond and really wished he’d stayed to do one last one. But can understand after such a long wait why the desire to do another had faded.
@TheJlook20002 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Timothy Dalton in a 3rd Bond but this light-hearted plot leaves me cold . Personally, id like to see a more romantic/dramatic movie where Dalton has to find a top group of assassins ( call them Chameleon or something or it's a device that turns anyone into an assassin ) and that would have played to Dalton's strengths.
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
The Reunion with Death fourth film would have appealed to you. Romance and tragedy.
@shahrulamar53582 жыл бұрын
Dalton was too serious. Darker side of James Bond. Moore is more funny.
@lunamotionproductions95592 жыл бұрын
After Connery, Dalton was my favorite Bond. The scripts for his films weren't great but he had the character down just the way I wanted him to be. Imagine if he had acted in the Casino Royale script!
@hobbybacker52272 жыл бұрын
Timothy Dalton was a GREAT Bond, very close to the novels!
@SiLoMixMaster2 жыл бұрын
The Living Daylights was a damn good Bond film. Moonraker is still my overall favourite though.
@johnkennethwiseman54602 жыл бұрын
What is fascinating about Dalton was that he was approached to play Bond in 1969.
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
Well he was asked if he wanted to audition and said no in 1969. Moore was approached [probably more seriously] but wasn't free for 1969 or 1971, Brosnan was on Eon's horizon from 1981 [when he visited the set of FYEO] and Craig was first spotted by Eon in 1998's Elizabeth. They usually have there eyes a future Bond a long time before they cast them.
@greatwuta2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this movie never panned out. A Cyborg villain, a sci-fi vehicle, Bond questioning his age, Bond as a cowboy, and camp. Oh, I HATE camp. No thank you to this and I'm glad this film never happened.
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
There were two very different versions of Bond 17. One was an action comedy but the other one was a stylish techno-thriller. Very serious.
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
Also, the cyborg part wasn't the focus. Just a tangent to create a little mystery. Think Baron Samedi's return at the end of Live and Let Die, after he's been killed.
@randomhuman972 жыл бұрын
I'm sure terminator 3 influenced your opinion. But it would've been interesting how the story would've panned out. I want to watch Tim Dalton 3rd
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
@@randomhuman97 The other thing is that they were intentionally vague about the cyborg bit and if she was just "enhanced".
@KimBailey-w2g5 ай бұрын
It sounds like a dumpster fire shit show
@wjkesq99182 жыл бұрын
Catherine Zeta Jones as a Bond Girl. What a missed opportunity. I like the Dalton movies, but somehow never really warmed up to Dalton. I think it may have been due to growing up with Roger Moore as James Bond. Did I see some clips in that video from The Man From Uncle. Ironically, I really enjoy that movie and am probably one of the few people that doesn't think Henry Cavill is too old to take on the role
@DutchBondFan2 жыл бұрын
I agree! Would love to see it!
@ramon39602 жыл бұрын
Catherine Zeta Jones did do a movie with Sean Connery, that's close enough to being a Bond girl
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
@@DutchBondFan Do you think Cavill could do a darker Bond given MI Fallout?
@DutchBondFan2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja absolutely!
@harryherman53712 жыл бұрын
Yep get Cavil in there
@puuxexil2 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, so many key people had left: Cubby Brocolli, John Barry, Maurice Binder, Richard Maibaum, etc. A lot of the movers and shakers behind the scenes that helped make Bond work. Maybe taking off 6 years was the best thing for Bond. I mean, I really like all the Bonds, especially Dalton and Brosnan, and I'm glad we got Goldeneye out of it all. I think Licence to Kill is a wonderful send off for the "Cold War Era" Bond.
@philhellmuth27712 жыл бұрын
Interesting point you have there
@thursoberwick19482 жыл бұрын
The end of the Cold War was a major factor, but I really think GoldenEye and Casino Royale are the only two really decent Bond films since Dalton.
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I also think Goldeneye not happening until 1995 allowed the Cold War/USSR collapse to settle meaning it could tackle the Post Cold war era [especially in Russia] very well rather than trying to react to an every changing situation.
@Bond87892 жыл бұрын
I prefer Daylights, with Licence being my #2, but it's always a good thing to hear other fans speak up about their support of the Dalton era. I really need to pick this book up, I can hear Dalton's voice in my head with some of those lines, especially; "Good morning, sir. The good news is, I have found the plane."
@Lia-uf1ir2 жыл бұрын
So interesting to see so many scenes and concepts from this planned films be actually used in later ones!
@thatguyfromcetialphaV2 жыл бұрын
I loved Dalton as 007. I wished that he'd had a couple more movies under his belt. Pity.
@TravisTLCdrumming2 жыл бұрын
There’s an interview with Dalton from a few years ago where Cubby wanted him to do 4-5 more films but Dalton was only willing to do 1 more so he respectfully declined. They wanted him since he was 23 years old.
@spencerkindra88222 жыл бұрын
I know they considered him but was he ever in serious contention to be in OHMSS? Because he himself said he was too young for the role back then.
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
@@spencerkindra8822 I think the truth is he was on a short list and they asked him if he wanted to audition/be considered but he said no to that so it didn't go any further rather than him just being offered Bond [when all have to go through the auditions, even when it's pretty nailed on like Craig]. I think that's what actually occurs for 99% of the 'offered Bond' [or other parts] stories rather than the part being offered to what seems like 5 or 6 people each time [especially if you look at the 'considered for Bond' list on wiki and other sites].
@jakobholgersson44002 жыл бұрын
I don't think "they wanted him", but supposedly he auditioned at that age. And Brosnan supposedly almost played Bond in Octopussy. As much as I love Lazenby and Moore, I think it would've been cool to actually have one actor portray the character for 20 years or more.
@spencerkindra88222 жыл бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja Sounds about right.
@spencerkindra88222 жыл бұрын
@@jakobholgersson4400 I doubt Dalton would've played Bond for 20 years. He most likely would've done four or five movies before calling it quits. He wouldn't have wanted to limit himself to Bond for that long even though he obviously could've done other movies in between.
@ughugh3512 жыл бұрын
Great video and all of the stuff with a 3rd Dalton movie is very interesting
@williamj.dovejr.86132 жыл бұрын
I remember being excited for Timothy Dalton starring as Bond...Sean, George, and Roger...these were my Dad's Bonds. Dalton was my Bond and he wasn't give a chance by the American audience. I wish he did at least three more films.
@Laukki2 жыл бұрын
Thx for this video 🤩 Dalton, my absolute favourite 💪
@MichaelMcCormackMusic2 жыл бұрын
Great job! One of your best videos.
@vitorafmonteiro2 жыл бұрын
Liked at Jeroen Turner's song.
@dudleymq2 жыл бұрын
Vancouver as a location -- cool! As a Canadian I find it really inexplicable that the Bond series has never filmed here, despite our country being the largest in the Commonwealth...yet they've set films in the U.S. any number of times. Sigh.
@ethanbentley18372 жыл бұрын
A third Dalton film would've been great! I think it would've been cool if Bond had to prove himself to the service after the events of Licence to Kill.
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if in the final film if they'd ending up making it he'd just be back with no explanation as Bond didn't really do heavy continuity back then and previous scripted continuity nods got cut for this reason [like Bond talking to Quarrel Jr. about his dad in Live and Let Die].
@ethanbentley18372 жыл бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja That is very true. They would probably do that or just not mention it at all.
@randomhuman972 жыл бұрын
@@ethanbentley1837 actually, they do. In diamonds are forever, they ask bond how was his vacation, which meant he took a leave of absence after on her majestys. Dr no was mentioned in Russia with love.
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
@@randomhuman97 I took the Diamonds bit as an in joke to Connery not being in the previous Bond film personally along with the 'MI6 functions in your absence' line but credit to you for not saying it proved the code name theory! Dr No is mentioned in FRWL twice [Silvia Trench returns and mentions it was 6 months ago, Spectre want revenge] but only briefly and given that was follow up to the first film it made sense that wasn't something they maintained afterwards-even though Spectre/Blofeld return they don't mention past films in the Connery-Lazenby era. The only real overt continuity was Bond's marriage [especially in FYEO].
@randomhuman972 жыл бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja the code name theory is complete and utter garbage. It only exists because of a few points of doubt in the "James bond is a character" fact. The only evidence FOR the codename theory is DISPROVING that James bond is a character and no other evidence, on which the theory can stand on its own merit.
@geddyflea66452 жыл бұрын
Dalton is by far the most underrated bond. All film series have missed opportunities here and there but bond is the most frustrating. Craig did five movies spanning 17 years (That’s the equivalent of time between Dr. No and moonraker- 11 films)! Now that Craig is finished, I hope the series goes strong, considering Tom cruise’s mission impossible series is wrapping up as well 😞. Henry Cavill is my pick for the next go around.
@brendangkelleher26692 жыл бұрын
Excellent video DutchBondFan! I genuinely didn’t know a lot of the details of the unmade third Dalton Bond film.I’m surprised they actually got as far as they did with scripting and casting and as you say,the producers were really ahead of the curve back then compared to todays stop/start schedule!
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
Yes, very close. They were working on Dalton's third and fourth!
@randomhuman972 жыл бұрын
Back then, bond was a trend setter and you could easily churn out movies in 2 years. Now, with so much competition and Austin powers corrupting minds on old bond, especially in the US, every bond movie needed more time to make it memorable.
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
@@randomhuman97 Bond has always followed trends, especially during the Moore era [noticeably Moonraker with Star Wars] but the Bond formula was versatile enough it could be quickly adapted. As you say, Austin Powers pretty much killed the more campy elements of the formula as shown by Die Another Day and possibly home media made people more aware of the formula so they can't use it anymore, even if some fans hope it will return.
@randomhuman972 жыл бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja true that. Ohmss was the last trendsetting bond movie plot wise at least. After that, everything was inspired from the trends of the times (dirty Harry style poster and plot in diamonds are forever, blaxploitation in LALD, martial arts in golden gun, star wars in moonraker, Indiana Jones inspired chase in octopussy, silicon Valley business booming in 1985, afghans in TLD, Miami vice in LTK, Jack Ryan style of storytelling where the hero figures out the true motivations of the villain earlier than others in Brosnan movies and jason bourne and marvel style cinematic arc in Craig bond movies) . If you see, only spy who loved me, FYEO, casino,skyfall, and maybe die another day's story was the truly trendsetting bond films . Die another day was totally ruined by the director 😪 . . . He shouldn't be directing films.
@spencerkindra88222 жыл бұрын
Great video! It's insane how many ideas from that script they used in the later Bond movies. TND and DAD owe a lot to it and I can't believe they were still using some of it's set pieces all the way up to Spectre. Shows just how much the producers would squeeze everything they could out of all Bond IP whether it be the original Fleming novels, a few continuation novels, and unused scripts. That was definitely one of the positives of them not fully adapting the Fleming books; they could use ideas in the later movies. I mean the book You Only Live Twice came out in 1964, the movie came out in 1967, and fifty four years later No Time To Die had the Garden Of Death in it. It'll be interesting what ideas Broccoli and Wilson use for the next movie. Speaking of that which scenes from the novels that haven't been used yet do you think should be in the next movie?
@hw90162 жыл бұрын
Great video and details to the planned storyline for Dalton's third film. I am a huge fan of Dalton as Bond. Would be very much interested in a similar video about the planned fourth film's storyline with Dalton as well.
@adrianunderwood86422 жыл бұрын
Loved Dalton, gutted after he made no more after Licence to Kill! One of my favourite Bond's for sure!
@jaskiratchahal76242 жыл бұрын
Mr Dalton the best of all 😘loved his charisma and savage persona.💗
@krithikasundar21352 жыл бұрын
The way you sang the title song was hilarious. Very interesting to hear about a bond movie that wasn’t made. As usual, really enjoyed this video. I hope you can do a ranking of all the Bond movies. Curious to know how you rank these movies!!!
@DutchBondFan2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to rank the movies either! It's a reward for reaching my second goal on Patreon! (It's at 73% right now) Every new supporter accounts to get that number up and get closer to that goal!
@asifkhan48222 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with Licence to Kill is it was more a mix of Die Hard/Lethal Weapon/Miami Vice. As Bond was having to compete with these new action movies which had overtaken Bond. It's definitely a shame that Dalton didn't get his final movie because he was a very good Bond.
@stephenbardy65702 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel this year and I LOVE your videos! Another great one here with my favorite Bond who never got the chance to shine.
@shettrick2 жыл бұрын
I love Dalton and was thrilled to see him in The Living Daylights after Moore's horrendous A View to a Kill. But given how poorly Dalton's Licence to Kill performed at the box-office and given how MGM president was no fan of Dalton and was really pressing for Brosnan even back then, I'm not sure a third or especially a fourth Dalton film ever woulda been made even if MGM had not been going through its financial setbacks and legal issues. And not unusual that potential scripts were being written, just as there was for a potential Jinx spin-off movie
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if the whole 'asking Dalton to do multiple films when he only wanted to do one' offer which caused him to walk away was really MGM's tactic to remove him? It's a bit like when people mention that contract Lazenby was offered when I do wonder if UA would just have paid him off if he'd signed it as they did with John Gavin as they were hell bent on getting Sean back.
@jeffduncan91402 жыл бұрын
I thought Dalton was a good Bond, too. He was the right person for the time.
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffduncan9140 He would have been helped if his first film was a little later than 1987. Such a different style coming so soon after Moore's long stint was always going to be a harder sell than if Bond was coming back after a break [which is what occurred with Brosnan and Craig].
@kentgrinton50932 жыл бұрын
Roger was always my favourite Bond but Timothy’s Bond title songs were close to the best yes it would be good to have a 3rd around!
@thomasitataylor64503 ай бұрын
Mr. Dalton is an incredible actor! Why haven’t we seen more of him on screen?
@X2Magneto2 жыл бұрын
Mark Edlitz's book is so damn good.
@loftlegacy2 жыл бұрын
It would have been bloody good, that’s what. Loved Dalton as Bond, from the brooding intensity, to the world weariness, to the love of the cigarettes!
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
Right, they were trying to be true to the spirit of Fleming.
@emtz65932 жыл бұрын
My all time favourite ..Bond....Thimothy Dalton
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
Great you did a video on this. I've noticed a lot of comments on Bond community videos saying 'Dalton should have done a 3rd film' but I get the feeling they thought it would basically be a kind of 'Licence to Kill part 2' rather than what it actually would have been. Though it would annoy the fans of LTK, the lighter approach does feel like 'course correction' due to the slack performance of LTK at the box office, especially in America [similar to how Skyfall was a bit lighter and brought back Q+Moneypenny after Quantum] and possibly explains the generally lighter approach when Brosnan arrived. Another consequence of LTK who's box office definitely suffered from being part on the packed 1989 Summer was that Bond's release was moved to autumn and has stayed there ever since.
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
Right! When I interviewed the writers of both versions, I was very interested in the tone of their scripts.
@bukayosraka2 жыл бұрын
This would cement Dalton as my fav Bond if it was made
@ΜακηςΛ-ε5ρ2 жыл бұрын
I believe Dalton should have play in ''A View to a Κill'' and in a 4th film in 1992 in celebration 30 years of Bond films.
@Jabberstax2 жыл бұрын
Great video, great singing! 🤣
@Yunone2 жыл бұрын
Basically, this is Timothy Dalton's version of Die Another Day?
@OtterSam Жыл бұрын
Dalton is my favourite Bond
@DafyddBrooks2 жыл бұрын
If License to Kill was Daltons 'Man with the Golden Gun' (no disrespect to other people who love those movies) then this 3rd movie would have been his Spy who loved me, especially if it got released for 1992 for the 30th ANNIVERSARY :) Maggie Cheung I like to think would have been a great Bond girl and for me i'd go for Sinead Oconnor for the films title song :) My humble thank Mr DutchBondFan for doing this video and I look forward to watching more video on Bond from your point of veiw :) Cheers
@ianmansfield682 жыл бұрын
I wasn't a fan of Dalton that much at the time but I enjoyed the movies; recently I've come to appreciate him a lot more in the role and I think a third and fourth outing would have been great. What you've outlined here sounds epic! I agree with you on the robotics and to be honest it sounds as though they had too much for one film (and that stuff looked silly even in the 00s with Die another day) but all the other stuff sounds like a kickass Bond film to me. I loved Goldeneye but thought the other Brosnan movies always lacked something; maybe it would have panned out better with Dalton in the role for a few more throws of the dice before Brosnan took over.
@terrycharnley2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating isn't it? What does get made and what doesn't. It's true for many movies, what does get made and what never sees the light of day. The best movies to never be made and so forth. Dalton played the character very well, serious, but with heart and vulnerable. I have the original books. Shame Dalton never got the chance to do a third.
@DutchBondFan2 жыл бұрын
It's really fascinating. It's defenitely a major 'what if' and fascinating to speculate what this would have been like! - Good to hear you are reading the books too! You may like what is coming up on saturday the 14th then! (Delving into the world of literary Bond!)
@bobsmithy9024 Жыл бұрын
4:55 I love the idea Bond might have fought robots that looked like R2D2. That would have been hilarious to see. 😂
@grumpyoldman34582 жыл бұрын
One of the things I liked was the contrast between Timothy Dalton and Roger Moore. Roger Moore will always be "my" Bond but he was a Bond for his time, and times change.
@henrykujawa44272 жыл бұрын
I always remember "THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS" was the only Bond film I saw in theatres 4 TIMES. The 4th time, I went with my brother, who, after, said, "Until this, George Lazenby had been my favorite Bond." I know how he feels. When I read all of Fleming's books in the 70s, I could somehow never picture Connery as I was reading. When John Gardner began writing his novels, I could imagine Roger Moore... but only because of the much better-than-usual job he did in "FOR YOUR EYES ONLY". From the moment "TLD" came out, the only actor I could picture was Timothy Dalton. And the funny thing is, to me, he "feels" like Bond... but he doesn't really "look" like Bond. (This is the exact opposite of Moore.) So many people talk about what a cold, hard, humorless womanizer he was in the books... and the weird thing is, somehow, I NEVER got that feeling when reading Fleming! But it does sound to me like an exact description of Connery. (Go figure.) I had NEVER heard about any of the stuff you discussed in this video, so it was very interesting. Truthfully, what I wouldn't mind, would be a "what if" video about if Dalton had done "FOR YOUR EYES ONLY". I feel certain the next 2 films after it, even if they used the same stories, would have been done a LOT better, without the silliness that KEPT creeping back in. The other week, I ran across something unexpected. I was watching a Hammer film I'd never seen before, "THE KISS OF THE VAMPIRE". In one of the audio commentaries, actor Edward DeSouza jokes about wanting to be James Bond, even though he says he KNOWS he's not right for it. The moment he said that, I started thinking about it, and, funny enough, I suddenly COULD picture him in the role... IF they'd been doing the books as written. Then again, some years ago, while watching the 80s TV series "Agatha Christie's PARTNERS IN CRME", I found myself thinking James Warwick ("Tommy Beresford") was even more my idea of the Bond from the novels. After decades of loving the movies, it's strange, but these days, I find I like the books WAY more. By the way, Bond getting older was a big part of the first act of "Thunderball". Which is probably why they used it in the fil "NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN". Finally... Fleming's very offbeat novel, "The Spy Who Loved Me" (the one he had put into the contracts should NEVER be adapted!!) takes place in Canada. If you track down the newspaper comic-strip version from the 60s, it was "expanded" very nicely to become a "proper" Bond story.
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
I also love TLD. One of the great Bond. In my book, I also write about the Spanish -language Bond comics. There are a ton or adapted and original works, including a version. Of The Spy Who Loved Me.
@kurtpalosaari46852 жыл бұрын
Joe Don Baker playin with his toys always cracks me up. He's a loveable villain for sure.
@grumpyoldman34582 жыл бұрын
I agree, James Warwick would have made an excellent 007.
@stephenvalente32962 жыл бұрын
I can appreciate Daltons take on Bond, trying to bring it back to what thought the books were about. For me he was just a little too serious and lacking in true humour after Roger Moore, whereas Brosnan kind of sat between the two of them from what I recall. Maybe a third film for Dalton would have seen him reflect on the first time and find a better balance in his performance.
@nauseous39252 жыл бұрын
I only watched LTK about a year ago, and I loved it
@alexthomas75552 жыл бұрын
Very interesting ideas better than present Bond movies
@Instrument_of_Peace2 жыл бұрын
Timothy Dalton was my favorite bond!!! He played Bond as he was portrayed in the books, not a parody! Dalton was the best actor also. They were all sexy, but Dalton took the gold!❤
@KimBailey-w2g4 ай бұрын
It would be kind of funny if Dalton’s bond went into Connery‘s movies and took his bond girls away from him
@MsGrowltiger2 жыл бұрын
The best Bond by far.
@matthewgaudet40642 жыл бұрын
Most underrated Bond. He understood the character Fleming created. Bond isn't a comic book superhero, or a comedian.
@OuterGalaxyLounge2 жыл бұрын
Man, oh, man do I agree with you. Licence to Kill is my favorite one, too, but you have to realize I'm not a Bond purist or 007 nut, just an overall general fan of all cinema, world cinema, commercial cinema, indie cinema, you name it, and I think Licence to Kill is an excellent film by any standard. I liked that it had Bond in a more down to Earth setting with a villain based on the kind that actually exist. Obviously, no one will ever supersede Connery in his first several Bond movies, but Dalton is the one I enjoy watching the most.
@hardrock18262 жыл бұрын
At 2:07 there is a picture with Sean Connery and Diana Rigg. She was not in a Bond movie with Connery. Where did that picture come from?
@VD6582 жыл бұрын
Your singing is pure gold lol
@TravisTLCdrumming2 жыл бұрын
A Clapton theme song for his 3rd movie would’ve been perfect.
@donaldbishop53202 жыл бұрын
Timothy should have done “Golden Eye” 👍🏻
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
It's Brosan's best Bond-let him keep it! Seriously, it was a perfect relaunch for Bond and Brosnan was great in it [helped by Dalton leaving after only the first draft was filmed so it could be tailored for him].
@skakirask2 жыл бұрын
I wish Caroline Bliss got more films as Moneypenny, she was a QT.
@WorldCityStudios2 жыл бұрын
I've had dreams about this movie coming to life; one included Dalton driving a Saab because of the 80s 007 novels. But I think it's also hard for me to decide whether I would have preferred this or Brosnan's Goldeneye. They're my two favorite bond actors but it sounds like there was only enough content in the tank for either this or Goldeneye.
@bighuge10602 жыл бұрын
I had hoped Dalton played Bond again but with a screenplay that was better suited to him. After seeing him do a stand out job in 2007's Hot Fuzz, I think a deeper Bond film would have been perfect. Dalton played a brooding Bond in his two films but the actor has such range that I would have loved to see what it would have developed into with a solid script.
@duccly50502 жыл бұрын
After that performance, I have a feeling you're going to get a call from EON about doing the next Bond theme song.
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
To learn more about Dalton's third Bond and other unmade and lost Bond projects, check out THE LOST ADVENTURES OF JAMES BOND. www.amazon.com/dp/173546161X/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_7J9FJVWKT2M66ANKYQBR
@DutchBondFan2 жыл бұрын
Yes its credited in the video multiple times
@spaceodds19852 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the mash up posters and take away the robot villaness, and rodeo idea, this would have been a great colossal fun Bond film. Dalton would have gotten his Bond epic, and it would have placed Bond in the 90s. I read that there was also supposed to have been a gadget laden car chase on the Hoover dam and a truck chase in Las Vegas (sorry but after having just watched Jason Bourne, the thought came back to me) Both Zeta Jones and Liu are missed opportunities and it would have been great to see these two as Bond’s leading ladies. As for the song… who would have sung a Bond song back then? Celine Dion, Madonna?! Bananarama, or how about Shakespeare’s Sister🤣
@V3ntilator2 жыл бұрын
I wish Dalton were in Goldeneye.
@robertharvey26042 жыл бұрын
Count me among the Dalton fans. It's truly a shame he didn't get the over-the-top third film. While I love both of his films, they are admittedly low key plots. It's like Moore's first two films, both low-key. But then, Moore of course got Spy with its much bigger stakes. Dalton needed that in order to cement his take on the role. It's a shame he didn't get his Spy Who Loved Me. I read the Edlitz book. Loved it.
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the kind words!
@SmartCookie20222 жыл бұрын
I think this is so much better than your OHMSS "what if" video. I'd really love to see an alternative For Your Eyes Only, circa 1978, before it was changed for Moonraker. I'd like to know how Jaws would've featured in FYEO instead of MR. I don't know whether you can get your hands on an early 78 treatment of the movie before the changes happened to it? Another "what if" would be Connery's Casino Royale which almost happened in 67. There's even a script by American screenwriter Ben Hecht. His treatments were almost entirely "straight" adaptations, far closer to the original source novel than the spoof which the final production became.
@Ijustbeoverthinking2 жыл бұрын
I was sad when they didn't mention the end of the cold war or anything historical too because in my opinion that's the best part of any bond film to me
@jamesatkinsonja Жыл бұрын
This was written in 1990/91 and the situation was rapidly changing [with the soviet union collapsing by the end of 1991] so anything topical would have dated very quickly and they were wise to avoid it. By 1995 Yelsin's Russia was well established and a good subject for Goldeneye to tackle.
@jamesatkinsonja2 жыл бұрын
10:30 Unfortunately these casting choices don't really add up for a 1991/92 film. Catherine Zeta-Jones only got her TV break in 1991 in 'Darling buds of may' [in a very un-bond style 'girl next door'] and didn't crack Hollywood until Mask of Zorro in 1998 [with entrapment a year later]. Lucy Liu only made her film debut in 1992 and did minor roles [including in 1996's Jerry McGuire] until Ally McBeal in 1998 launched her to fame. Similarly, Liz Hurley [who someone mentioned] was still doing minor roles in things like Passenger 57 in 1992 so I doubt any of these actresses would have been on EON's radar for a 3rd Dalton film though Hurley was asked to host a Bond tribute show to tie in with Goldeneye so maybe she was considered for Goldeneye at one stage [though she wouldn't fit as Natalya]. Maybe someone like Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio [Scarface, Abyss, Robin Hood Prince of Thieves] or Maria Conchita Alonso ['The Running Man, Predator 2] would be more realistic fit.
@enry23372 жыл бұрын
Sadly we'll never get a new Dalton 007 movie, but we're still in time to get DutchBondFan with his Tina Turner impression as the singer for Bond 26. Make it real, EON!
@remybien32772 жыл бұрын
Ussr didn’t end til end of 91. I’m assuming this would have been a summer 91 release . Just play 007 the duel on sega genesis for your third Dalton bond fix lol
@mikem104812 жыл бұрын
Bond was just at a crossroad. Considering 1989 was a year for major action movies and sequels. Batman, Lethal Weapon 2, Back to the Future 2, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Bond went down in the pecking order but Dalton was not to blame.
@juanarches57932 жыл бұрын
I agree to the tittle “Property Of The Lady”. And make it as continuation of License to Kill. Bond reinstate his 007 number. Felix Liter still working for CIA as a head advisor, seeing him on the wheelchair. Or walking with cain support by prosthetic legs. Of course no robotic stuff like day. Just kind of closer to reality.
@CRITTERBUSTERS2 жыл бұрын
Great video as expected, I liked the first draft written by Wilson and Ruggerio the most, it was almost perfect. It had the intrigue of The Living Daylights but with a high tech flair. The self aware direction with bond is too old wouldn’t have worked for Dalton it would’ve been too jarring even for him. I think had they ironed out some of the excessive stuff like Rodin’s fighter jet supercar and just having it be a motorcycle with a high tech targeting and weapons system that would’ve been more acceptable. Also the henchwoman Nan being a robot seemed a little too much on the Terminator side of things, maybe she could’ve had two bionic arms much like in the way Tee Hee had a mechanical claw and arm in live and let die or like Dr. No and his metal hands but that’s about it. The Aston Martin Virage 1990-1992 wasn’t the prettiest of the Aston Martin’s but it was better than having a BMW which doesn’t scream bond at all. I think had those things been corrected, we could’ve had a tight espionage thriller with a hint of sci-fi. I also really like what Dalton’s 4th could’ve been, it sounded like a fitting closure for Dalton’s bond. Very sombre.
@thelostadventuresofjamesbo51822 жыл бұрын
I also love the first version of his third film. I'm glad that you recognized that some of these ideas could be modulated to find the perfect ratio of what works.
@myhorsethesenet332 жыл бұрын
Timothy Dalton was James bond
@robertleedom76007 ай бұрын
Tim Dalton was always my favorite Bond...
@OneCatholicSpeaks2 жыл бұрын
Catherine Zeta-Jones as a cat-burglar Bond girl would totally work. She would have rocked that role.
@matthewche2 жыл бұрын
I recall watching an interview with Dalton on the set of the movie, The King’s Whore where he was asked if he would do another Bond. IIRC, he said “If all things being equal, hell yes. I would like to do a Bond film that is the best Bond film of all. But it’s too early to tell.” He was game back then but too much time passed and MGM did not like the weak box office of License To Kill in the U.S. That movie was released in the summer of 89’ which had Batman, Indiana Jones 3, Lethal Weapon 2 which were all smash hits. Ghostbusters 2 and Karate Kid 3 also suffered with poor results that summer.
@MRDOA6615 күн бұрын
l loved Timothy Dalton and wished that he stayed because "The Living Daylight" and "Licence To Kill" were good Bond Movies. Pierce Brosnan, who took over the role in the 1990s, was also impressive too. Roger Moore was my favourite James Bond. He did a remarkable job in leaving an indelible mark playing the character. ❤❤❤
@shellsbignumber22 жыл бұрын
Really interesting stuff, I wonder what the 3rd Bond film with Dalton would of been like. I think Roxette should of done the Bond theme for Daltons 3rd. Dalton is my second favourite Bond after Connery, even though he only done 2 films. Very definitely should of done a 3rd Bond film. He was coming off the Moore era to, which made it harder for audiences to accept his more serious Bond.
@leejohnstone46632 жыл бұрын
Cubby Broccoli was right. Also look at Roger Moore and Daniel Craig! It took them three movies to be accepted as James Bond
@mahatmarandy5977 Жыл бұрын
Is there any chance that you might go into detail about the fourth Timothy Dalton Bond film? I had never heard a whisper about that one before now and I would love to hear it
@TheNcc1701xyz2 жыл бұрын
Interesting premise, thanks! What possibly contributed to the poor response to license to kill in the UK was when it came out on video. Terrible plain sleeve (Dalton alone with a drab one shade red background) and the abysmal cuts, especially at the end, where it just became a confusing mess.
@tangoandcars95882 жыл бұрын
This is the same way how I feel about how Craig should have gotten another film between Quantum and Skyfall. A third Timothy Dalton movie would have explored more of his Bond and we would have gotten to see more adventures.
@KmT812 жыл бұрын
I wish because he has always been underrated in Bond .He's a great Actor and I liked his style as he has respect for women in the Movies,a humble guy more than the others.Even if my favourite has always been Moore,I like them both. Brosnan was also good. Connery is is the classic and Daniel is the actual generation. I don't remember Lazenby in Bond but I saw him in an american 80s Tv Show'Cover Up' Jennifer O'Neill,Jon Erik Hexum(1957-1984) and Antony Hamilton(1952-1995)