What is a Cyclops Lesion and How You can Self Test for One

[@warrenbeckx6014]

I wish I found your video earlier. I have battled for 5 months after acl and mcl surgery to regain extension even using extensive long duration weighted stretching everyday. My physio and bio said it's fine and it will improve with time. I watched this video last week and immediately booked an appointment with my ortho. Just had a clean out today for a cyclops and an hour after my op I can stand with full hyper extention. I can also fully Ingage my quad. I had all the cyclops symptoms you discribed. Thanks you saved me further wasted months of rehab. For ever grateful.

[@ACLacademy]

Im glad you are on the right track now. I appreciate you sharing this with us. you made my day

[@warrenbeckx6014]

@@ACLacademy How long would you recommend staying away from weight bearing exercises after cyclops removal surgery. I was around 5.5 months post op for full tear of acl and mcl surgery before my second surgery.

[@ACLacademy]

@@warrenbeckx6014 I would monitor swelling and use that as a progression to weight bearing exercise

[@berkay3343]

How long are you there with crutches and rails? And do you then have to train diffraction and stretching again?

[@omrishterenberg4207]

Thank you, very interesting! After I had my acl reconstruction, I had a period of about 10 days until I started my physio sessions and extention drills. It surely affected my recovery as i couldnt get to full extention and had major pain trying get to there. 4 months after the surgery we decided it was enough time to get a second MRI which showed there is a cyclops lession indeed. Very important to start working from day 1 on the extention.

[@ACLacademy]

100%

[@7asa.n_99]

What about the flexion ROM did you have a problem on it?

[@coryhill8446]

If I have to get the surgery to remove the scar tissue, how long with it add to the recovery and what would recovery look like from there?

[@lizM1120]

Hi I’m 8 weeks post bear implant surgery for acl and meniscus and I still can’t get to 120 flexion barely a 0 dg extension still very stiff an looking like a chicken wing I try and try with exercise and pt but still nothing pls guide me on what to do pls

[@betsydickson9067]

Hi Dr Kaan, My extension is perfect, but I lack ROM on the flexion side. Am I right that Cyclop's lesion is more likely to be present if the knee extension is not full/affected? Thank you!

[@ACLacademy]

you are correct. how far out from surgery are you, and what is your flexion motion measurement?

[@christiankirkpatrick7242]

I'm just now 5 weeks out, I am having issues getting to full extension and, the pain seems to be more in the back when I try to push it, but it's kinda hard to tell. Wondering if I should be concerned

[@kesangdolkar9195]

My patella feels a bit low. 5 months acl mcl pcl post op autograft. Stiffness. Rom only 105. Is it cyclops lesion? Its been stuck at this range for a while.

[@ACLacademy]

cyclops lesion usually prevent extension.

[@kesangdolkar9195]

@@ACLacademy ohh... My extension is fine. Do u think loa surgery would help with the flexion?

[@jizzy2x66]

I’m seven months old and I’ve been feeling this in my surgeon I finally got a second opinion and I’m waiting on the MRI. I feel like I have this hopefully once I get is clean now I can make that negative jump in return to play.

[@ACLacademy]

hope all checks out. keep us posted

[@youretoofastforlove]

Day 21 post acl op and I feel it weird when doing the extension

[@ACLacademy]

understandable, but this is why small progressions are important

[@lukeherbert8325]

Can you do a video on pain post surgery? Expected vs non expected… when to push rehab and when not to push

[@ACLacademy]

yes will get to this, please also look through our library as I have a lot of good content on early post op

[@warrenbeckx6014]

I'll let you know tomorrow when the local anesthetic in my knee wears off 😂😂

[@thelastdoombot]

what about pain on the outer side of the kneecap? does that indicate the presence of a cyclops lesion?

[@ACLacademy]

no thats not one of the hallmark signs

[@Drharissial]

Hi please reply if you are free , I had ACLR 40 days ago , i am working on Extension , its not fully achieved yet but i feel pain on the anterior side of the bone where u mentioned , is it the cyclop lesion ? Or is this normal to feel pain after surgery there ? Yes if i push down i feel pain there. Also when i try to walk i feel a blockage sometimes and then if i wait for a second it goes away suddenly.

[@RajatSharma-cc3ih]

Can we use paraffin wax therapy after 1 month of ACl + medial mensicus repair surgery?

[@ACLacademy]

as long as incisions are completely healed you can. but the key is always active motion

[@franekozic1728]

Hi Dr Kaan, Can you get a cyclops lesion twice? What are the odds? Ten months after ACL reconstruction I had bad extention and all symptoms you described. I did an MRI which showed a cyclops lesion. Now, six months after a cyclops lesion surgery my extension gets worse and again have all symptoms like first time.

[@Redaye77]

Hi, thanks for the Video. I have a few questions: 1) How soon after surgery can a cyclops form and be visible on mri? 2) Can cyclops also limit flexion? 3) When I go from extension into flexion I can feel some kind of popping/snapping paired with a little painful and uncomfortable feeling below my kneecap deep inside my knee. Could this be my acl and or the cyclops moving??

[@berkay3343]

Hi did you have a surgery?

[@kaival5]

I have undergone acl and Meniscus repair 10 months ago Still not achieved extension Not missed any physio sessions Planning to go for mri If cyclops lesion found and undergo removal How much time for recovery?

[@BronsonConnors]

Howa your quad bro

[@BronsonConnors]

Hows

[@kaival5]

Cyclops was found went for surgery 3 months back removed all the fibrosis from knee 98% good rightnow but still feel some fibers have developed but it isn’t bothering now So if found one must go for a surgery I was walking the same day without crutches

[@BronsonConnors]

@@kaival5 shitty shits bro congrats I hope you continue to grind and push through💪🏽thx for swift reply, hey what graft did you use?