What is BAD Animation?

Today we look at what exactly bad animation is. How do we judge animation? What makes animation bad?
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[@-_leslielopez_-1619]

People like to confuse 'Artstyle' with 'Animation' and it's annoying.

[@stopler]

Visual aesthetics, fidelity, and art-style.

[@shwiiiiies4704]

Yeh thats what i think when i see this video

[@Shadow-eq9fz]

Just like the old saying. "Don't pause in Disney movies" then don't pause in Animes either. Lol.

[@fatefulbrawl5838]

Wow, thanks for clearing that up, really thanks!😉

[@fatefulbrawl5838]

@@ChaosSwissroIl I see what you mean now, thanks for the insight! 🙌

[@dixienormus2802]

The animation for that band anime you showed...holy shit, who thought that was a good idea

[@AnimeAjay]

It's so crazy. Sakugablog did a great article on it - blog.sakugabooru.com/2017/11/27/dynamic-chord-this-is-how-anime-breaks/

[@greenstuff3706]

It looks more like a highly stylized motion comic than a real television show.

[@Arvak777]

It was really creepy, I can't unsee it.

[@ArceusDX]

It looks like a poorly made Flash animation.

[@mollarts]

it probably would have been brilliant if they used it for an off-putting and psychological horror animation since it's so disturbing, but other than that it's just weird and out of place

[@fitzhugh7463]

When people say that pain vs Naruto “looks like loony tunes” they are complimenting the animation because loony tunes is animated better than 90% of today’s animated shows

[@gabygabriel7789]

Fr and let's be honest who doesn't like loony tunes' animation or even just loony tunes as a whole

[@MrThecrazyzombie]

That's true. Even Disney princess movie looks way more smooth than nowadays anime

[@revoltanimation8957]

Fitz Hugh um no

[@fitzhugh7463]

DeathX Animation • 24 years ago no to what? How well looney tunes is animated?

[@blarebear6972]

No they are saying that it’s animation is as crazy as looney tunes. Not saying it’s bad

[@AidGum]

You know why people unfairly criticize animation for being bad? It's because they're obsessed with finding anything that could be precieved as a flaw so they can be negative about it. And humans in general seem to find amusement in negativity.

[@elmaschimba963]

Fucking straight facts💯

[@coolmanjack1995]

And that's how we end up with the monuments and mountains of bland completely inoffensive media.

[@Ruldolphmaker]

"So they can be negative" you sound like a first grader. People do it, because they just don't get animation. Period.

[@Korlacc]

@@Ruldolphmaker aaand... u jus proved his point. Lmaooo

[@Ruldolphmaker]

The notion "omg people just wanna be negative" is absolutely absurd. And it almost always applies to (big shock) series or things you want to defend. But you never see the things people are generally positive about. "They just wanna be negative" is a cop out to criticism I see very often in the anime community and it needs to stop. Its not because of Plasma's characterization of his ideological opponents as he presents it. It's because these guys just don't get animation.

[@Hale-ze4gm]

Bad animation is failing to communicate motion not individual frames It's freakin anime not manga damn it

[@sypeartz3469]

Agree That Manga Is has A Bad Quality And No Shadow Only the Animation Is the best But Anime Is best Quality

[@user-tzzglsstle585e38]

You're so right, art is its own uniqueness

[@Derpity]

I mean manga has some smear frames but they’re aren’t too extreme. Edit: not sure if they are smear frames or something else idk

[@sledgetable172]

@@Derpity search up "7 page muda manga" on google

[@SSwormy]

Sype Artz I know this comment is old but have you seen the Berserk mangas? The details and art is quality of which anime can’t even pull off.

[@TotallyNotMark]

This man gets it. Thumbs up!

[@mechajay3358]

Totally Not Mark You also just made a video about Super's animation

[@antoniocordova2401]

Hey Mark

[@bbriggs7409]

Oh hi Mark

[@rubbymcrubrub1369]

You're right thank you for making this

[@TheSonic1685]

You yourself are guilty of everything Ajay pointed out fans are doing in this video. You fucking hypocrite. Need examples? Okay vegeta's 2 left hands: in-between animation goku and beerus funny expressions: exaduration Need I go on?

[@justtoolit6051]

Pain vs Naruto was amazingly animated

[@Oscar-j6b]

You are right. But the transition from the regular artstyle to the battle was poorly done and you can see the drastic change In art style and animation.

[@justtoolit6051]

@@Oscar-j6b That doesn't make it bad animation. They were exaggerating to show the speed of the fight. It shows proper acknowledgement of power.

[@uberZanneth]

@@Oscar-j6b that may be jarring for some people, but after the first watch there's no reason to not enjoy it.

[@cardosutoro9]

But awfully drawn 💁🏻‍♂️

[@justtoolit6051]

CaEd SuVi Nope

[@Theshabadaman]

Bad animation is when we first discovered flash as kids

[@amiel3159]

what animation? at most as a kid you drew something and got stuck on how to do something else

[@kristofgriffin384]

Wakfu would like to have a word with you.

[@SheltonPiresPires165]

OMG that series is fucking awesome.

[@Uppercut92]

Wakfu is So good, I wish funimation gave it an English dub.

[@PoofyThePandaPro]

why english dub? sub is so much better

[@Bwansson]

"why can't every episode be animated like this? Toei clearly has no budget left" *When I see these types of comments I want to die*

[@millasboo]

Bwansson Didn’t a slowly bankrupting company make OPM with a normal anime budget?

[@AFKAwesome]

Camilla B Madhouse was not slowly bankrupting, maybe you mean Mappa?

[@millasboo]

AFKAwesome Yeah they were they were barely hanging on .

[@neoshenlong]

Just try to explain them how it works, I was an idiot who commented that kind of stuff because I didn't know how the anime industry works. Now I have an idea thanks to Ajay and I cringe with my old comments, but the point is I learned.

[@XAD222]

maybe they should distribute digital copies with english subs and 5$ for 3 episodes so they wouldn't go down so easily... rolleyes

[@MrGohan8000]

Bad art screenshots does not = Bad animation.

[@stareater1870]

You can try without the double negative. "Doesn't not" means it does.

[@Earoist]

So it... does?

[@knavenformed9436]

Does not not

[@yeastanger7419]

Most of the time it's not even bad art, just off model.

[@jamiegreyy]

Bad art sets the foundation for the animation though.. Even if the animation is adequate, if the character models and independent frames look bad then the whole thing is just going to look bad in general

[@soulhandler2227]

This video is so important. Seriously, most people have been criticising the show's animation because they were not educated in the matter.

[@pepsiman3832]

Soul Handler im a sacred reich fan too!

[@soulhandler2227]

Ahahah cool man! Actually i haven't listened to this band in years. Gotta get back out there.

[@pepsiman3832]

Soul Handler yep they are great at making thrash metal

[@infiniteenigma1]

As an amateur animator who has gotten migraines from how rampant this crap this in the community i just got to say Bless you for taking the time to straighten this topic out. Keep up the good work Ajay.

[@infiniteenigma1]

2d, but its nothing but small little snippets I make in photoshop

[@chibi_taiki4066]

Well a large majority of these people who yell”bad animation” don’t seem to know jack about animation...

[@marcello7781]

We live in a time where any simpleton can improvise him/herself as an expert on everything due to the internet.

[@yurika_lad1386]

Actually though! I'm no student, but I try my best to use all these principals in my animation. I never upload it because I'm actual trash, but still. I get animation and the principals. But everyone criticizes it bc they don't get it. It's actually kinda sad

[@jbkesselman]

The majority of people who criticize anything know jack shit about that thing.

[@-nelson-514]

Clicked bc of pain face

[@rebellionty]

Same. Lol

[@lilbuzzyboi9949]

I swear he looks like a fish in the thumbnail.

[@Nigus76Garcia]

Look like a damn pirahna

[@Lamsklamart]

LOL THE REPLIES

[@ImAlexGoodwin]

This is such an important video for the general fanbase. Nice work Ajay!

[@yokatta-f]

Sadly most of those people won't pay attention to it

[@treekid7455]

I'mAlex you should copy and paste this video in the comment whenever someone post a pause screenshot

[@timurkral3781]

From which sexy hentai Anime are this school girls in 2:55?

[@NeoAPszn]

I'mAlex im your 600 subscriber

[@ImAlexGoodwin]

Oh, well thanks!XD Even though I don't post anything anymore, I still appreciate it!

[@iseya3400]

As a person learning how to animate. Naruto vs Pain's fight is VERY VERYYYY well done. Yes they took the stretch and squash (I hope I said that right) to the extreme, but anyone can agree that the battle's choreography and dynamics is very difficult to do for an animator. You can clearly see the professionalism of the animators by making it flashy but not too difficult for the eye to follow.

[@douglasbreno4966]

Isaiah Joseph dont know about that man...

[@illegalalien6542]

Disagree

[@henriqueantunes2019]

As another animator in training (Got a few videos up, not much, but it's honest work) I agree with your point of view, but Pain's face still haunts me to this day ever since I saw it. Seriously, the animation looked smooth, fast as hell but easy to understand. 3 Great feats, each hard to achieve, together almost impossible. But holy shit his face.

[@geniusgamerr4517]

@@henriqueantunes2019 funny at the time i thought it was done on purpose because of how his jutsu function

[@mdalsted]

"... a bizarre hatred that their cartoons *dare* to look like cartoons." INB4 someone whines, "AnImE iS nOt CaRtOoNs" Anime *are* cartoons, they're just not *western* cartoons. "Cartoons", in this context, refers to "animation". Hell, "anime" is even taking from the word "animation".

[@tingispingis]

Don't tell the weebs that they can't handle reality

[@ahmedpro_gamer520]

@@tingispingis Many anime fans already know this and rarely see someone who is unaware of this. And you seem to be looking for trouble by saying "Don't tell them they will get angry" in order to get an angry person to attack you in the comments.

[@axellea1592]

@@ahmedpro_gamer520 he said "weebs" , a "weeb" is like an anime fan who is so into it that he/she thinks he/she is japanese and that the only culture in Japan is anime :P

[@maevixie7041]

@@axellea1592 except people call everyone a weeb who even dares to watch a single episode of any anime

[@uncleshrek3614]

@@maevixie7041 Not everyone

[@no.5403]

This was very needed. Everyone needs to see this.

[@miffmiff2051]

NANI! Yeah. I remember someone said "what good animation" at a frame (in a kinda sarcastic way cuz Goku's face looked hideous) and Im like "THAS NOT ANIMATION WTF"

[@GIJOEAlltheway]

MiffMiff if by any chance youve watched one piece would you call the newer episodes animation not as good as the old ones or the art style. Cause i just feel like somethings missing from the newer one piece episodes

[@sailor3047]

Do people seriously think Sasuke vs Oro in part 1 was an example of bad animation in Naruto? That shit was beautiful. Pulling one frame of animation out of that scene and using that to call it bad is disrespectful. Especially when it comes from idiots that don't know anything about animation.

[@NRLazy]

That fight was what Pain vs Naruto SHOULD have Looked like. The direction and choreography in that fight was phenomenal.

[@dacheeze2plz190]

Lol I just spent 40 minutes of my day making making an essay just combining what you 2 said (Sailor/DavidProducts) I shoulda just scrolled down more.

[@skeith804]

@@NRLazy The same dude did both fights.. >.> You're not gonna get crazy hand-to-hand martial arts when one of the combatants is a large fox demon

[@angelocandraw5353]

really didn't expect Mob Psycho to show up at the beginning since it's so underrated :0 gotta say that show has some breathtaking animation

[@Sh1tjefferys]

Shane Can Draw I know so damn beautiful probs my fav anime

[@freakingknight5608]

The artstyle looks weird but the animation overall was fine. That series need a 3rd season.

[@NRRL-fb4yc]

Just watched episode 1. Does reigen actually have powers or he's stays a fake.

[@vailix750]

@@NRRL-fb4yc watch it and see for yourself

[@NRRL-fb4yc]

@@vailix750 ok. I'm guessing he has secret powers.

[@Oscar-j6b]

The biggest problem I have is people don't knowing the difference between art style and animation.

[@ryarod]

Indeed. A lot of the shown examples are really just design and/or other style choices. If anyone wants to see _actual bad_ animation, just pop over for one of my ridiculously pre-beginner-level animation exercises on my channel. I guarantee it'll help make every other "bad" animation you've ever seen look like a masterpiece.

[@cheesefiend123]

didn't realize people were critical of that moment of pain vs naruto. the distortion of his face is unsettling and surreal and makes it feel more visceral and impactful.

[@NRLazy]

It was the exact opposite of that. If you want that feeling watch Sasuke vs Orochimaru in Part 1. Similar animation, Better choreography, atmosphere. everything that fight has; Naruto vs Pain the Looney toons doesn't. The animation for Naruto 6 tails vs Pain was Amazing. some of the smoothest I've seen from Naruto but it had the worst direction and Choreography. It's why we never got it again. They essentially said "fuck the tone of the scenes, the character choices and weight of the fight. Let's just do stuff. "

[@cardosutoro9]

Were they even animating humans? Its like they asked a 6 year old kid to draw the characters and then they put them as models to create the animation, good animation can go along with well drawn characters, it doesnt have to be like that

[@kevinmunguia7381]

Every comment on this echoes the exact sentiments I had toward that scene

[@6000hall]

I think the over exaggeration of squash and stretch had the opposite effect mixed with the gag manga antics of literally being nailed into the ground.

[@starkiller7165]

@@Lewtable This is the comment I'm glad I found. I personally like it, but what you stated was definitely a set back. The way Pain's arms flail like Tobi's just takes the seriousness out of the fight (mostly becuase Tobi was not serious), alot of their movements were reminiscent of drunk Lee's and Tobi's both of which were "goofy" characters. Besides that I love the fight.

[@mamatorinq5678]

Animation: basically, the rapid succession of images (also known as frames) to create the illusion of movements. Art: how the animators drew the frames It'd be nice if people actually knew the difference between the two before screaming bad animation.

[@121dan121]

The Pain vs Naruto fight scene is actually one of the best in the entire series. I remember when I first watched it and although the style is completely different to usual it really enhances the sense that Naruto has lost all control of his power.

[@droberts4791]

yes I think that was the point of it. I watched it when it first came out and my friend and I would always watch the episode the day of release and discuss it afterwards. I remember thinking how amazing it was and then I talked to him and he was like "yeah it was a cool fight but the animation was shit" and I was thinking "what?"

[@prqdgy]

The fight really shows the exaggeration that's why I like it

[@michaelcontreras7160]

Mac Loud it was still dope and they made that to show how fast and hard he hit the ground are you dumb

[@kayleenelson8246]

Although the episode was impactful for the series and story, the animation was off because the structure of the anatomy wasn’t successful therefore it fell apart.

[@kevinmunguia7381]

Best scenes??? Seriously? Kakashi vs kakuzu... itachi vs sasuke.... naruto vs sasuke 1.... naruto vs sasuke 2... Orochimaru vs 3rd... jiraya vs pain....hell even lee vs gaara looked better than that... the pain fight was soooo over the top for no reason. It was more over the top than the tailed beast fight during the war. It was just such a drastic change from everything else in the series, even the fighting leading up to it was full of bad cuts which took away from a lot of the great moments people were looking forward to from the manga... I mean the scene where 6 tails grabs a boulder and hammers pain like a nail into the ground 3-4 times?!? Seriously? Naruto just went rage mode, this is supposed to be an intense fight, and it was cheapened by terrible art and “funny” fight scenes... I looked forward to that fight for a long time and we got something that looked like it came from another anime entirely

[@FakYuhGoogel]

There's people who don't know the difference between art and animation. In what kind of world do we live in...

[@fellowcrusader222]

Fak Yuh Googel not as important as you make it as

[@water-111]

no but its common sense, like all you have to do is use your brain for like more that a couple seconds to understand.

[@MelloCello7]

Animation is art, the art of motion.

[@arealflame]

just saw this video in my recommend and while im not a fan of anime, this is a good video and i think you explained it really well good stuff!

[@floofzykitten5236]

I think this can apply to many other forms of animation outside of anime so I think anyone who is an animation buff should watch this

[@CODA96]

+Flamegirl I always say this: Theres 95% bad anime and 5% good anime. Same for many other things. Its your work to find the golden examples, and these will give you an amazing experience. Namely, Berserk, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Hellsing, or Attack on Titan.

[@jacl9976]

Confused POLNAREFFU This is true for all forms of entertainment

[@purerage7963]

My god. This video was SO cathartic I couldn't help but smile. I'm not going to lie: I expected it to be a defense piece on pure animation while sidelining common complaints from viewers. It wasn't. You broke down each step of the debate elegantly, from the definition of bad animation, to tweening and in-betweens, to exaggeration, to stiffness, to how absolutely jarring good art and horrendous animation can look. The fact that you didn't shy away from discussing why some fantastic animation styles might come across as jarring to viewers if not presented well enough, or how sharp transitions between styles can take someone out of the experience, sold this video completely. This was a masterpiece in my book.

[@kingmuizz708]

Damn this video needs to be shown everywhere..

[@DarthAlphaTheGreat]

It’s too easy to confuse style and quality, I guess. A good spongebob scene will never fit inside a Dragon Ball story (ok...challenge accepted), but that doesn’t mean the Spongebob scene is badly animated.

[@DG-xm8ju]

I love that beerus being derpy threw the entire video

[@puffnstuff7905]

THANK YOU SO MUCH for making this video. When the Pokemon Sun and Moon anime trailer was released, people took inbetweens of the show and said it looked lazy and had bad animation, which is just flat out wrong.

[@Drstrange3000]

Puff'n Stuff The animation is good. The tone and art style aren't for me though.

[@quetea7302]

6:15 that animation is so bad I cringed

[@hammskie05]

It looks like he's rubbing one out

[@mincat1412]

*YOS*

[@mincat1412]

To da ham ham

[@hammskie05]

@@mincat1412 YOS

[@hystericallover5989]

Mincat 1326 fun fact, there is a reply button you turbovirgin

[@mamacrow2759]

When you show clips, you should add the title of the animation in very small text in the corner!

[@kyrudo]

I love that you mentioned the Naruto v Pain arc. So much misconception with that episode. Btw since you did a video on what is BAD animation. Do one for GOOD?

[@user-pw7lz7tw1h]

Look at his super supervisors for Tate

[@manuel5012]

I ,as a naruto fan myself, dislike the animation style of this episode because it looks so out of place. This kind of animation would maybe fit in a comedic scene or anime but not in a serious fightong scene. Also they just changed the animation from one episode to the other in a important part of the story. I think most people dislike the animation because of this reasons, but its just my opinion and I dont say that the animation is bad in general, its just that it doesnt fit in.

[@paulaguimaraes4087]

Beerus looks beautiful

[@m.f8655]

I searched bad animation Your video's picture showed up

[@RN-dm3kp]

Mohamed FAOUZ 😂😂

[@rosietales]

The first thing that came into my head was all the people who talked bad about Psycho 100's animation when they knew that was the artist's style. Very well done in saying what had to be said, most of those who criticize most probably can't even draw

[@andyhartkopf4167]

then make it appeal to you dont try to make another artists art something that only needs to appeal to what you believe is good art

[@aerieleah533]

HammerBroGH see that's where I disagree. The odd art style just makes everything feel more sureal. Not to mention can you even begin to watch the op or the Ed without acknowledging that it has incredible animation? How everything flows from scene to scene in that vibrant op with all of its references. And the Ed! The guy who made that was hired out of college for a reason. Its done in a style I've never even seen animated before or since and its absolutely breathtaking. Yes the anime is ugly but when slapped with these crazy colors and damn good storytelling, it easily makes my top 10 fave animes of all time. In fact I'm looking forward to season two of Mob more than One's other famous anime series One Punch Man. I have zero problem with trading a slightly ugly style for the characters and heart One brings into his stories.

[@hadifathur2702]

Art can't be criticized aren't they? Because the artstyle excuse

[@comfortcool8361]

Your right. Mob Psycho's animation isn't bad. Making the animation and art style look stupid fits Mob Psycho's story and it makes the jokes more funny. Plus if you watch Mob's fight scenes, the stupid art style and animation fits really well. Especialy Mob's battle against Koyama.

[@communityEsc]

This is an extremely important video for the anime community.

[@shadowkn250]

the pain fight is one of my all time favorite anime fights of all time. you really feel the momentum and action of the environment. it feels like its on an entirely different level than anything up to that point.

[@amiraziz2331]

Glad to see that more people liked Naruto vs Pain animation

[@jasonone8726]

I still don't. Call it dynamic fluid animation, but it didn't work for Naruto. It was meant to be a serious fight, but they made it look like a wacky cartoon.

[@Frivty39]

@@jasonone8726yeah, it was a little to much

[@ShaiGuyz]

mob psycho has amazing animation and it peeves me how people that don't like the style talk about how "bad" the animation is lmao

[@testt7529]

Some ppl just don’t know good animation

[@animeentranced1130]

Me with PING PONG fam.

[@DRAGONBLOODX]

You are one of the best youtubers in the dragon ball community

[@andresolorzano9440]

Dalek C yes

[@KingBlonde]

Definitely my favourite

[@icantthinkofaname62]

Dalek C this guy is TnM's competitor

[@kaystruenoo]

Dalek C nah Seth is

[@Dexrazor]

UnoriginalBraker LOL

[@GoldenScouter]

This is a great video!! Definitely worth the watch and it is very educational :)

[@thename1132]

Golden Scouter nice try trying to get a like from him

[@GoldenScouter]

Guy - Thanks?

[@thename1132]

Golden Scouter lol

[@garchompchump9274]

hes not wrong. i finally learned what tweens are and understand animation better. i already knew that stills weren't bad animation but i still had a bit of trouble puting what bad animation is to words

[@philiphockenbury6563]

Another thing to mention is, animation is pretty hard. I mean they are professionals, and there are dozens of professional eyes staring at this stuff over and over for a living, but they are still human. They also have a time table to keep up with because people can't wait for the next episode. I think they are allowed to take small shortcuts and f*ck up every once in a while, as long as the animation stays at a more or less consistent level. The animation needs to be able to hold up as a perfessional product made by *HUMAN BEINGS!* Humans are not capable of making everything perfect. Also, we the internet, are full of people who have a larger ammount of time to spend on searching every pixel of every frame for imperfections. Also it could be a deliberate choice for legitamite reasons. Though still, call out acctually bad animation. Like Dynamic Chord. That is shameful. I hope that that they did not hire a professional animator. That had to be on purpose. That is bad. Also if you want your cartoons to look realistic the whole time, why do you watch cartoons? Especially ones with supernatural powers? Do you hate fun too? It's a cartoon, let it have a little bit of leeway. I hate writing, *WHY DO I ALWAYS MAKE SUCH WORDY COMMENTS?!?!?!* I need a life...

[@Brozinger_Gaming]

Philip Hockenbury lol "perfessional"

[@lumi2572]

Philip Hockenbury To be fair, there's a difference where a company is having a hard time, to where it's just lazy. Toei is an example, before they were just lazy as hell, but they're keeping it back up due to all the complaints.

[@Kingdom18Key]

This video should be used as an automatic response to any hateful comments about animation

[@Gokussjdensetsuno45]

I tried. Didn't work. Stupidity sometimes can't be defeated.

[@UCvow2TUIH0d2Ax2vik9ILzg]

How? A condescending artist making excuses for bad animation under the guise of "I'M AN ARTIST SO MY OPINION IS SUPERIOR TO YOURS" is in no way a proper rebuttal of someone thinking that animation is awful. Disregarding the fact that I think all of Gurren Lagann is awful, episode 4 had so much fucking awful animation that I was stunned by how bad it was. No amount of condescending artist lawyering will convince me it wasn't garbage. It looked bad, I don't care for your excuses, they won't make it look any better.

[@codyallen43]

Pain vs Naruto is unironically my favorite anime fight of all time. It's simultaneously beautiful, powerful, and absolutely hilarious. Every frame flows into the next perfectly, you really feel the impact from every action, and exaggeration is pushed to its absolute limit to produce some of the most memeworthy expressions I've seen in anime. Plus some straightforward slapstick comedy is thrown in for good measure (pain getting driven face first into that cliff face for one). It literally has everything you could want from an anime, and will be hard pressed to ever be topped.

[@jjtheenton]

Regarding the Pain fight, I've always conceded that the animation itself is fantastic. I *do*, however, find it to be a bit overboard. Multiple instances are almost nothing but smears that linger on the screen for too long.

[@maxkordon]

Gokou Blacc eh

[@firepuppies4086]

They went a tad too far considering the usual art style.

[@skinnysnorlax1876]

Totally agree. Heck, if an entire show was made with that animation style, it would be incredible. But this is not a stand alone show: it is an adaptation of a manga. It ought to faithfully capture the original medium where and when it can, while adding what animation as a medium can and should. What was done in that scene completely ignores the style of the manga and goes for something much more experimental looking. It's not like this is some freelance artist doing an interpretation of another work of a different medium in his or her own style. This is THE anime adaptation of the manga: it should look like it.

[@El_Andru]

Gokou Blacc I found it distracting and dissapointing. There have been better fights in the past so amazingly animated, that this new style of animating it didnt fit for me and distracted me from the point of it.

[@saltyjoe3166]

I personally think that the animation style of episode 4 of Gurren Lagann has no place in the series. Had that art style showed up in a comedy show, it would have been acceptable, but not for a show that has such breathtaking fight scenes and is known for it's amazing animation. Regardless of how you feel about the art style of episode 4, it still feels much less fluid as other episodes in the show, and making that episode look bad comparatively.

[@bryancarter7654]

With all respect. If someone even tried to hate on you for this video or starts bashing they will be remembered as dumm motherfuckers. How he fuck can you hate on someone who tries to educate for FREE. He did a very good job of getting rid of the budget rumors, does his research every fucking day and thinks about other concepts for his channel. Humans can be so disgusting. You're doing a great job sir Edit: I don't care what anyone says. Yeah the part where pain hit the ground with his fist looked fucked up but the whole fight was godly animated fuck outa here if you can't see it. Top 5 best animated fight in shippuden ( still think naruto vs Sasuke pt1. Was better tho 😂)

[@ew275x]

Ugh I do hate the lazy and budget argument. Hell in fact most troubled productions like the Dynamic Chord are usually less lazy because they have to go way overtime to make something passable and even then they tend to end up with messed up results like those. Effort doesn't always pay up in the industry especially in team efforts like animation. It's why I hate it when people go off on Toei, because for all the shows they produce at the same time they don't all look awful for example. All other studios would crumble if they got Toei's workload. That being said, I do like the Naruto vs. Sasuke 1 fight more and am conflicted with the Pain one (that punch doesn't look very good if I'm being honest). Would make a great Yuasa or Mob Psycho 100 episode but may have been too loose for Naruto standards. I feel it's out of character for Pain to become so hammy for that episode so he's out of character. Naruto also just tosses him like a ragdoll which would be fine in DBZ but Naruto characters don't usually smash through mountains and come off normal so it also kind of screws with the rules of the setting. Animation is good but... misplaced would be the best word.

[@zakaria_sama4666]

Fact 1: the first 7 minutes of naruto vs pain ep, contained 5500 frames . Fact 2 : a normal ep of an anime contains between 3000&4000 frames(24 minutes btw)

[@kxi._.5765]

Bad fight animation in season 2 of One Punch Man. Intense moments are 3 frames of “attacks” and use those with shaky cam. Still frames moving slowly across the screen. Etc

[@rayzermaniac5218]

This is a great way to make a video about a devisive subject and discuss it in a manner that I think leaves you safe from haters since you clearly state these are just your opinions. It's almost a shame that the famous episode 5 even happened because I don't remember animation even being something that was regularly discussed in anime or at least the Dragon Ball community until this point.

[@rayzermaniac5218]

Fortunately everytime someone comes out with a moan about Super's animation I can just fire back with the "Episode 114 Defence" !

[@Dexrazor]

Son Rayzer Even though it was done by Yuya (I think) it wasn't actually even that good. Not only that but one episode being halfway decent doesn't redeem the entire show itself.

[@IIJGaming]

What is the name of this anime 2:52

[@RikXtreme4]

I think its got to a point where people have been following cartoons/anime for so many years that they feel they understand everything, and therefore can critique any little thing like some sort of big time yelp reviewer..

[@gohan12991]

RikXtreme4 Because they can and they should. We pay our hard earned money for watching anime and I don't want an inferior product.

[@setteroffires]

Vip_ ss You sound fucking stupid

[@andyhartkopf4167]

you dont know shit about the actual reason they animated the scene so how would you know what youre getting as a product, stop watching anime like a pretentious douche

[@gyro537]

Your hard earned money? You must be that low on cash if you think watching anime that you think looks bad is taking all your money.

[@artificialcolours9719]

There are so many factors that make "bad" and "great" animation. So I'mma just simplify it to the greatest. If you fail a tad bit too much of the basic principles of animation, that's bad. (Unless it's your style, obviously)

[@joshyjoseph3699]

naruto vs pain bad nono epic yesyes

[@kaysanamoi1727]

me agreeagree

[@jordanwilliams2780]

I agree

[@bondi_69]

I fucking hated that scene.

[@faisfaiz4353]

My pain.... Is far greater than yours!!!!

[@MrMywishlist]

epic!

[@Denka97]

Before I watch the video I want to say (because I saw on thumbnail) the Naruto vs Pain - animation is absolutely AMAZING!!!

[@ch0colatec0ff33]

I think my favorite background animation is in card capture sakura. It's at the end of every episode after the outro song, showing 2 characters, and they are SQUASHED. It's small, but it's on-screen long enough for you to see how messy it is. Its my favorite

[@saladbruh2625]

I never notice these, I mean if its rare then I will never notice

[@saladbruh2625]

I just spend more time saying to myself " omg DB super story is so cringy" most of the time :). I mean not all of it but some very irritating parts like some new characters pop out and they suddenly reach something goku was reaching for hundreds of episodes in 5 minutes.

[@Bloodhurl67]

Axisok Nibitzik Because it's their opinion? It's pretty simple and not that hard to understand.

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

Pausing animation is very educational if you're interested in learning animation, yet very misleading if you're not.

[@E_blanknamehere]

i think i see the problem here, you looked up bad animation in google images. animation is moving pictures and jpeg's cant move.

[@AnimeAjay]

SPEED WEED hello yes, welcome to the point of the video

[@E_blanknamehere]

AnimeAjay damn wasn't expecting you to reply that quickly, its only been like 15 minutes.

[@dovydaspilka9481]

But like I need to know what is bad animation because everything I watch I don't see anything wrong

[@Rockden]

It's fine if you don't see anything wrong! It's alright as long as it looks good to you. Art (and animation) is subjective.

[@ilay_ux]

This video shows examples of bad animation bro, watch the video :p But like the comment above me says ^^ it depends on what you find bad. It's subjective.

[@GegiZ]

Pain's face animation in his fight against Naruto is absolutely great and I could never understand why it was considered "bad" by some. Animations in that fight show us how much effort, emotions and power is put in Jutsus or just straight up physical punches.

[@savions4005]

I will never understand how people who don’t know shit about animation call it bad

[@Den-pw3jt]

Savion Smith Thats people for you. Talking Shit about Things they dont unterstand and thinking they're Experts.

[@Justdifferent666]

THANK YOU FOR SAYING NARUTO VS PAIN WAS GREAT ANIMATION I’VE BEEN PREACHING THAT FOR SO LONG

[@DannyGlasspool]

That naruto vs pain animation makes the hairs on my neck stand up every time, just stunning!

[@Ghos838]

6:54 *VEGETA?* Put On 0.25%

[@Narkos6033]

Daher (Rz) I mean you’re not wrong

[@kraken9208]

Holy shit

[@hannahmay1300]

As an animation major myself, this video is spot on! People who criticize don't seem to understand how animation works. The inbetweens aren't meant to be put on pause for a reason. Also inbetweens, especially smears and extremes, are so much FUN to draw! It really breathes life into the motion. This video earns a like and a subscribe in my book!

[@UnknownFlyingPancake]

I was under the impression that MOST people know about inbetweening, and just find it enjoyable to laugh at how some of them look as still images. Though like you've shown, there are definitely some people who think it's legitimately bad animation, and I hope that some of those people see the video and understand better.

[@Thatoneguyinurwalls]

As someone who went to school for animation, this annoys the piss out of me. Still images = /= animation, ffs.

[@n.naovaratpong2700]

Omg I can’t unsee it now 6:03

[@marleythechangling9779]

People say Steven Universe has bad animation when really it just has bad storyboarding. It moves perfectly fine.

[@paradx6974]

Bad animation is Mastarmedia

[@2025fahaddenseje]

Paradøx more Like tracingmedia

[@allpraise_ant7548]

This vid should be trending

[@Milkra]

Fucking thank you. People who criticize animation but have no clue of its principles and techniques don't know what they're talking about.

[@juliusbaehr6631]

Here after Escanor vs Meliodas.

[@cwz9405]

It was ok...but not what I wanted

[@Kamzzmixedit]

Cezar it wasnt oksy

[@cwz9405]

@@Kamzzmixedit why not

[@sandman9373]

Welp A person like me who don’t really cares about animations, only cares about the story is here.

[@bicillenium4019]

Meliodas vs Escanor’s bad frames weren’t in the in betweens, they were everywhere

[@lifetimeorigami8307]

Studio deen was in a mish mash with other projects so they were rushed for Imperial Wrath of the gods and Dragons’ Judgement. Can’t really blame them too much but people overexaggerate how bad the animation is tbh. It’s not that bad for a rushed animation

[@lifetimeorigami8307]

Almost forgot Ban vs Pump

[@carrot7067]

The reason that fight turned out so bad was probably largely down to studio restrains and or time constraints. Meliodas vs Escanor can be actually classified as bad animation because there just isn't any interesting techniques of animation being used. The same thing happened with episode 5 of super. It's usually not the animators fault, but the studio for not making enough time.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

I saw the Pain vs Naruto fight for the first time today and I have to say, I didn't like the scene in question. I liked the fight overall, but there were undeniably moments like the one above that completely took me out of the viewing experience. And I could clearly tell it was very technically impressive, but that didn't stop it from looking severely out of place and leaving me with a general feeling of confusion. I mean, that scene was so confusing that I even came to KZbin to try and see if someone could explain the scene to me. Now that's what I call breaking immersion. And again, I was approaching this as a blank slate. Those were my unbiased, unplanned opinions. I don't think technical skill is the end all be all. Conveying feelings, messages, themes, and ideas to you audience is the highest priority of art and it is improperly communicated or that message is lost than that piece of art fails. Something can be supremely technically skilled but if the message is lost it still fails at its primary purpose. And in extreme cases, artists can get so lost in the technical aspects that it become the very thing hindering communication. That's kind of how the fight with Pain feels in certain instances.

[@KanpekiJan]

Great video. Personally I really dislike how they went about the animation in the Pain fight. I find it way too comical for what's supposed to be an extremely serious, high stakes fight, especially with stuff like the Sonic legs and Pain being hammered into the ground like a nail. That, of course, does not at all mean that it's badly animated. Episode 4 of Gurren Lagann also really annoyed me. I just personally find the style ugly and always skip the episode when rewatching the series.

[@ZayOsirisGaming]

You should do another version of this video but with Good VS Bad Anime CGI

[@kingroachxvii3392]

I'm sorry I just can't agree with that Naruto v pain fight I genuinely think it was one of the worst in the series

[@kingroachxvii3392]

@Augustine Lobo no no, it just genuinely looked bad. Pain literally looked like he had 76 times the recommended amount of chromosomes and it just didn't feel like a Naruto fight. When pain hit the ground saying "mY pAiN iS grEaTeR tHaN YoUrS!" I was not supposed to he laughing. That fight was supposed to be serious. Not make me laugh. It conveyed the wrong emotion. Which in then made the fight just meh for me. Like I'm sorry chief me personally it's just not for me. And I'm not saying you can't like it; however that fight was a miss for me

[@MistaMagic52]

Finally someone understands why the Pain fight was drawn the way it was! I've been defending it for years, using the exact same arguments here.

[@billythedino5531]

This scene is full of the exaggerated swagger of a akatsuki teen

[@DanteTheDonutLover]

6:15 I choked on my breakfast

[@frederickkriesel2724]

People just nit picking by pausing, using and being "Here is proof!

[@CptApplestrudl]

Pain vs Naruto was really something...it was well animated...really well actually, but my problem was with WHAT happened. Pain punches a hole in the ground, flooding the entire area(?), he gets "whack-a-moled" by the Kyubi while not taking any damage, giant roots shoot out of the ground without any explanation. I do remember watching this the first time. It looked amazing but what the heck was going on?

[@mrnegativity8730]

Who’s here after Meliodas vs Escanor?

[@cwz9405]

That's was ok

[@russellgroenewoud9199]

4:03 - Kind of reminds me of that ONE facial feature from Soul Eater. 😂

[@_rubyrose10_]

Lmao

[@Toothpaste0000]

What’s bad animation ? The whole of seven deadly sins season 3

[@zexeroni2800]

It progressively got worse

[@Jocelyn-sm9qs]

not really, the backstory of Meliodas, Elizabeth and Gowther is Good

[@Toothpaste0000]

Sh4doWGaming I clearly meant the animation

[@Jocelyn-sm9qs]

@@Toothpaste0000 i know, the animation was good, not great but not bad either

[@Toothpaste0000]

Sh4doWGaming it was good on like 5-7 episodes Other things like pacing , drawing doesn’t count as animation So even if they are good it doesn’t make the animation better . An example would be meliodas vs escanor and some of the episodes right after the fight (not the part 2 of it tho)

[@haroonaslam5428]

3:20 jiren lining up the shot.

[@JOMAnimations21]

Naruto vs pain is so like shinya ohira's style and it is legendary.

[@_aneruu_]

For me bad animations are those choppy, unfluent, and Boring. Because animation is mainly towards the motion and not the art style😁

[@leroyalomnivore7168]

Dude I LOVED what they did w pain and naruto because it actually made it more captivating. It made me understand how powerful they were. I get why people thought it was sort of slap stick but it was good for that moment. I feel like if they used that animation in any other part of the show it would kind of ruin it. Another good change in animation in naruto shippuden was when asuma died and shikimaru was playing that game w his dad. It really captures the aesthetic of his mourning. A lot of people disagree tho which is surprising to me

[@christiancontrerasossas6653]

"who cares lets just enjoy the content"

[@lwkyabdi]

uvuvwevwevwe onyetenyevwe ugwemubwem ossas klwazzawazza ???? Zabollazza

[@fanez3249]

0:25 AnimeAjay:lemme show u wat is good animation *litterally shows Yaoyorozu attacked*

[@NoOneIsSafeInTheEnd]

I like how Jojo is the only one with NO ERRORS, NO FILLER, GREAT ART STYLE, GREAT ANIMATION.

[@mattwolf7698]

It probably has no filler just due to the manga's being done when they made them and they didn't have to create filler once it caught up.

[@pradeoo3918]

Honestly, Jojo's Part 1 and 2's animation was kinda clunky. The rest is great tho.

[@deathglock496]

Animation wasn't that great except for part 5.

[@andrex1456]

I feel like good animation is consistent animation

[@mr.simpleandcleanburn1192]

Andrex [145] so mob psycho and opm are bad? Cuz those are not consistent at all

[@kuprukuula]

It's not that simple, for example Kanada style animation is very limited and spastic, but has a clear sense of life and motion to it.

[@BIANCOBA]

I agree with Jum Jum. Some animation styles (like Naotoshi Shida's) are amazing (in Naotoshi's case it's because of his motion fluidity), but can't be consistent because it takes a lot ot time to get that animation quality. Much more time than they dispose for just 1 single episode.

[@andrex1456]

So this comment was my original understanding of the video. However as the replies have stated, it's not nearly this simple. I've kept this comment, though, because I like the feedback people give. Listen to the video / these other geniuses before me! Haha

[@ruan78ify123]

Mr. Simple and Clean Burn But their animation is consistent.

[@amirwinston2557]

6:23 I must be tired