What is caste discrimination? | About That

[@digitalbilly]

Caste is a discusting concept people have come up with!!!

[@titusmccarthy]

People are still rather dumb. What was it George Carlin said. We're barely out of the trees.

[@asingha94]

Nobody follows caste in west. Even in India it's diminishing. There's no caste discrimination proven through court of law in anywhere in the west. Bunch of leftist cabal propaganda & narrative building politics. Hindus have the lowest recorded crime in all over west. Out of nothing all of a sudden why are they concerned about caste? It explains all.

[@sorenutpal6091]

All lower caste people should convert to Buddhism or Christianity. When Brahman religion will be minority in india only then they will understand. Jai Bhim

[@manofsan]

The British came up with it -- the english word 'caste' is not of local origin, but was popularized under British colonial rule, and it enabled a small number of British to control a vastly larger number of Indians through Divide-and-Rule. The goal is to spread this word of colonial era origin to North America, so that it can be used for further purposes of Divide-and-Rule against those of Indian origin.

[@rakeshchand2463]

​@@manofsan the idea is of indian origin

[@AnaSaro-xi9cu]

Take care of the major problems that exist in Canada. Look at the way we are spiraling on a downward path. Once these issues are solved, then perhaps the TDSB needs to educate themselves on the caste system. The TDSB needs to first take care of their dirty laundry. Instead of focussing their energies on the caste system, the TDSB should focus their energies on eliminating discrimination in TDSB schools in terms of racism and students with disabilities. Moreover, the administrators, including superintendents, need to be competent and knowledgeable, and they need to keep abreast with the current guidelines of the ministry. Incompetence, absurdities, and blatant disregard for respect and the dignity of students and their parents are central to their operation. Besides, they are devoid of transparency, accountability, and the know-how about education and the impact of the poisionous environments that they are creating for our future citizens. Integrity and character supercedes everything else. Education is the passport to life, and I sometimes I wonder how these people have attained these positions that they hold. This comment is not applicable to all administrators and superintendents, but just some. If the cap fits, then they can certainly wear it.

[@Vishuedits-fx]

Casteist are explaining about Caste to Europeans 😂😂 wow they said we all are living peacefully in India. Don't forget that 70% India living in slums. They not said how upper caste hindus attacking on Christians, muslims, Sikhs and Dalits. every second every minute Dalits shamed about there caste . And they said we all are living peacefully life and enjoying .

[@manofsan]

So according to you, slums are purely the result of discrimination. Why are there slums in Africa, and in other parts of Asia? Why are there slums in Latin America and other Christian countries? According to you, they must have 'caste', right?

[@123xyzabccba]

@@manofsan : caste & capitalism are weapons of discrimination resulting in huge income disparities

[@Seevawonderloaf]

Hinduphobia is unreal but caste discrimination is rampant?

[@rustydante31]

No such thing as Hinduphobia.

[@john_doe_not_found]

Canada should just officially ban the caste system. An official law that recognizes that "caste" does not exist. Nobody is born better or worse than someone else. If someone feels singled out that their heritage is under attack, remember, some heritages are bad. The Aztec practiced human sacrifice as part of their heritage. Some heritages should not be celebrated. If you were born a Dalit, caste has been nothing but miserable. It is a system of oppression like a monarchy and nobility. Some people are born at the top with a silver spoon, and some are born into squalor with no way out.

[@zochbuppet448]

Canada is not India, we dont know what cast it. so it does not exist...issue fixed. In Canada we do not get involved in peoples private lives.

[@asingha94]

Nobody follows caste in west. Even in India it's diminishing to the point that caste factor is going irrelevant in election politics. There's no caste discrimination proven through court of law in anywhere in the west. Bunch of leftist cabal propaganda & narrative building politics. Hindus have the lowest recorded crime in all over west. Out of nothing all of a sudden why are they concerned about caste? It explains all.

[@slowjamsliver7006]

It isn't institutional for most of Canada is the problem, and this is far more and internal problem with Indian groups. Currently recognition and information is the best we can do.

[@slowjamsliver7006]

@@zochbuppet448 It can still exist, but the odds of spotting and finding it are much lower with is not being systemic or institutional within the country.

[@Seevawonderloaf]

@@zochbuppet448 exactly. The testimonials are all about interpersonal relationships. Moreover, one taxi driver already successfully sued two guys for caste slurs under the discrimination under ancestry process

[@ninemoonplanet]

Unfortunately Canadians believe that we're "special" or different because we think we've left the "old ways" of our ancestors behind. We have a version of the caste system here based on money, prestige and our ancestral heritage. Remember Harper's "old stock Canadian"? First Nations people have faced this "lesser than" or "untouchable" status as well. I'm in an area where the South Asian community is numerous and I see a sense of the "caste" or "lesser than" attitude too. I don't belong to that community, but I see the children, young adults feeling deep pain because somehow they don't "match up" to their "betters". Nobody is better as a human being than anyone else, each has gifts, talents and the right to be treated equally.

[@wewantmoreboomboom8313]

Classes of different cultures vs socioeconomic classes within one culture. This example is not the same as a true caste system.

[@DavidHalverson]

Native Americans in Canada have just recently been recognized and now it is mandatory for land recognition to be made before any event. Every city is actually on native land taken from the aboriginal inhabitants by the colonials. It took facing the grim history of the Residential School System and the deaths of the students at the hands of the Catholics and Protestant teachers and staff.

[@Seevawonderloaf]

You don't belong to our community yet get the 'sense' that were inherently discriminatory??? That's the freaking basis of racism. We live among each other peacefully, don't have separate places of worship and intermarry but nothing will convince racists that we aren't inherently flawed.

[@pshah7979]

Caste is not Varna-jati system, in ancient times the varna is decided based on the occupation, so my dad is a brahmin but I am a shudra. What is taught in western textbooks is not right. The word Caste is not Hindu, the British could not understand the varna-jati system so they just made generalizations.

[@vasanthagunturu7476]

Sadistic shameful phylosophy which is inhuman

[@Seevawonderloaf]

Curious where is the statistics In Canada? Why didn't he discuss how the Indian govt has, for the last 75 years, tried its hardest to uplift marginalised members of our society? With college and job reservations of up to 50%. Does Canada have this for native Americans? And how dare you say that Hinduism sanctions caste when it doesn't. Go ask our iskon teachers instead of some hindu hating christian professor who has openly called Hinduism a false faith!

[@jaibirdi7534]

Last week, City of Burnaby also added caste as a protected category to its policy framework on equity and inclusion. Since caste carries a stigma for most (and a privilege for others), stories of caste oppression or discrimination usually don't come to the surface. In that spirit, thank you for your story on this issue and enhancing awareness.

[@VijayKumar-dn4pz]

1. Pick the easiest target that you get for conversions and starting a culture war - Hindus, because they are just busy living their lives peacefully whereever they go. 2. Go after them when there are actual social, economic problems occurring all across Canada 3. Get elected to power in cities with burgeoning Indian population, most of whom have nothing to do with the caste system.

[@slowjamsliver7006]

Not really. This comes off as a problem within the Hindu community that some parts wish to have recognised as a problem they face within the broader society. At the end of the day it will have to be the Hindu community that will have to change its relationship with itself, and it seems some parts of that Hindu community feel that it isn't a problem being taken serious by the Hindu community.

[@VijayKumar-dn4pz]

@@slowjamsliver7006 You don't know what you are talking about. Affixing "Not really" in front of your response doesn't make you right. When Hindu immigrants come to Canada they face the same problem as every other immigrant. This idea that in big cities they somehow discrimate among themselves based on caste is ludicrous. The woman in the video is an exceptional case. "A good family" like she says in the video doesn't mean a family of high caste. It just means a family where members might be doctors, engineers, business owners, e.t.c. This woman has social and political ambitions and wants to play the American culture war game by painting herself as a victim when in fact, look at her ... she oozes privilege.

[@slowjamsliver7006]

@@VijayKumar-dn4pz What makes it ludicrous? It would certainly not be the first time such inner community discrimination has occurred, and it will not be the last. Odds are good that this form of discrimination exists in some form or other. It might not be common, but it probably exists because some things take a very long time to go away. Canada is still host to many inner community discrimination among our historic communities. So, the Hindu community isn't unique in that respect, and we know the inner community discrimination that happens in our historic communities because the discriminated members eventually brought it up. Maybe this person does have political and/or social ambitions, but that is how the west likes to roll. We expect people to have some sort of political and/or social ambitions. However, this is neither here nor there as this is pure speculation at this point. Her motivations are self interest, yes, but that is the nature of countering discrimination, you can't sit around and wait for people to change. She might very well be privileged too. However, you can be very well off, and be right about something. Most of this just points to, this is something that should be looked into to see if this discrimination is prevalent enough to do something about. There might be nothing, but there might also be something. This will only be answered through an investigation. This group sounds like they won't wait, and will have the caste discrimination added to the books so that it can be watched for. If this discrimination indeed does not exist we will never heard about it, and we will if it does. If we never heard about it again, well it won't have been the first useless law on the books.

[@VijayKumar-dn4pz]

@@slowjamsliver7006 Your response might as well have been inspired by chatgpt, that's why it's ludicrous. I'm sure it sounds all very logical in your mind but because it's not based in facts, it's simply not true. The fact is that it takes Indians years to get their parents to Canada. By that time most are married to someone who provides the most amount of stability, economic prosperity and overall happiness. So tell me how the parents are going to decide who their kids end up marrying? The overwhelming majority of Indians in Canada are getting their PR through the CEC route. In the years it takes for them to finish their school and work in Canada and become stable enough to marry, they are assimilated into the Canadian culture. Religion and caste are quite simply not that important for the overwhelming majority of Indians that come to Canada. So, fixating on this fictitious problem and blasting it on national TV is basically just click-baiting for views and political success of the ONE woman who's the centerpiece of this story. Are the students looking for caste while matching up on dating apps? Are they asking or caste while interviewing people? Don't be silly. Housing shortages for everyone, missing aboriginal women, corruption in awarding contracts and jobs in the government are the much more real issues that should be focused on. Of course, the side effect of this non-sense is that privileged clowns in Canada now feel entitled to ask me my caste as soon as they become comfortable around me.

[@slowjamsliver7006]

@@VijayKumar-dn4pz I understand you feel personally attacked. No one is placing you are fault for anything, and it is very possible that this person is only after social and political stands. It is also rude of people to assume that you are a devoted individual of the caste system. With only way of moving away from that particular part of your history being the act of changing your name, it is a bit outlandish to make a practice of that. Though changing names has happened to a lot of families in Canada, and the USA. Many early immigrants did change their to sounds more English. Not that many people know that was common. Authorises were well known to changing names when recording information, and also some people changed their names to avoid discrimination in early Canada. So, there are certainly grounds to condemn the idea of changing your name regardless. However, names are important even here, and can bring both pride or shame even here too. Changing your name to avoid shame or questions is common in Europe and North America if enough shame has been brought to it. Which is something you see a lot of people being judged on their names in movies. So, that name judging is still very much a part of Canada and USA culture. So, in this way these people might be expecting you to assimilate into that same mentality. I should also add, I am not failing to understand that investment of each individual immigrant makes to get here. I know every immigrant has spent a lot to make it to Canada, and to live in Canada. However, also understanding that currently there is no cost a form of discrimination if it did occur, and currently the Hindu community are the only ones able to identify when it does happen. Thus there is not cost or risk involved if someone engages in this form of discrimination expect in the case that the larger Hindu community chooses to be involved. The Hindu community could discourage the possibility of someone discriminating base on caste, but that is not as easy as it sounds. The risk of fracturing a community is a very big deterrent against acting against another member acting in a shameful, but not necessarily hurtful way. Also, the actual number of people engaging in this sort of discrimination is incredibly small. These are big factors in reducing the likelihood of the Hindu community being able to tackle this problem themselves. Face it, you are a good example of this, as you don't want to even bring up the idea. There are obviously risks to bringing it up, and the community obviously doesn't agree on whether it exists or not. To you it doesn't exist, but this other member of your community claims it does. We are a third party have not idea which is true. All we know is that not many members of the community will agree with her as it makes people feel evil. We also know that this is quite the claim to level against ones own community. This is one of those times, where we being a third party can be very valuable. Also, if we go in skeptical, but watchful, then we can probably get the answers we need without a large investment of resources or time. After which the matter can be settled, and we can continue to be a watchful third party. Hopefully, the community will not fracture, and we will not have had to devote a large amount of resources looking for something.

[@aakashbaviskar6011]

Raghini Sharma and many more casteist prove that Dalits are not hindus... Thanks for that

[@asingha94]

Ask commoners, not political goblins. We're very much Hindus like any other. These cheap politics are only meant for dividing Hindus. There's no caste in west. It's bogus

[@sorenutpal6091]

All lower caste people should convert to Buddhism or Christianity. When Brahman religion will be minority in india only then they will understand. Jai Bhim

[@andr0oS]

Pretty informative without being overall judgemental.

[@DavidHalverson]

It will become judgemental in Canadian citizens as a punishable under the legal system as abuse of a person's rights and freedoms. Anyone caught practicing the caste system will be punished severely and possibly be denied their immigration status and Canadian Citizenship.

[@andr0oS]

@@DavidHalverson okay. 👍

[@asingha94]

​@@DavidHalverson Nobody follows caste in west. Even in India it's diminishing. There's no caste discrimination proven through court of law in anywhere in the west. Bunch of leftist cabal propaganda & narrative building politics. Hindus have the lowest recorded crime in all over west. Out of nothing all of a sudden why are they concerned about caste? It explains all.

[@Seevawonderloaf]

@@DavidHalverson anyone caught doing this can already be prosecuted by laws protecting ancestry

[@Seevawonderloaf]

Really? The whole part on saying care is inherent to Hinduism isn't judgmental and discriminatory? How about you make such a claim on islam or Judaism? You won't because only brown pagans are always under scrutiny. I assure you, no one is more virulently anti-caste than Hindus. We HATE it. We reject it. It is NOT part of our religion or our mistranslated scriptures (mistranslated by British missionaries)

[@TheFloozi]

You mean, exactly how poor people get kicked around by the rich and powerful. Or how the boss's girlfriend gets the perks and benefits and others get discriminated against. Caste discrimination is not something unique it's just ancient

[@jedibane]

This was good information. I learned about this as a child in a world religion class. Getting this out there more generally is so important. I feel like this should be treated like a hate crime if it can be identified when it happens. This is an ancient and ingrained system

[@asingha94]

Nobody follows caste in west. Even in India it's diminishing. There's no caste discrimination proven through court of law in anywhere in the west. Bunch of leftist cabal propaganda & narrative building politics. Hindus have the lowest recorded crime in all over west. Out of nothing all of a sudden why are they concerned about caste? It explains all.

[@pshah7979]

Caste is not Varna-jati system, in ancient times the varna is decided based on the occupation, so my dad is a brahmin but I am a shudra. What is taught in western textbooks is not right. The word Caste is not Hindu, the British could not understand the varna-jati system so they just made generalizations.

[@manofsan]

You're interested in promoting caricatures and distortions about Hindus, stoking up drama in order to vilify and demonize them.

[@pshah7979]

Not an ancient system

[@eagle1onoteagle10]

People ask me if I believe in god... I tell them I pray to creator. They tell me Jesus died for me... I tell them my ancestors did. They say I will burn in hell for not following the Bible, but yet it has been used as weapon to colonize and murder my people... for me it’s spirituality over religion. I don’t hate people for going to church, but I do hate what the churches have done to us... before colonization we had our own ways and ceremonies, And I choose the path of my ancestors. 🧡

[@DavidHalverson]

Only the Creator is the one that can give you eternal life when you pass over into the next dimension. He created you as soul and then as soul we decided to learn how to live with other souls by being born into the physical dimension as a human, animal, or plant. When we have reached our end and hopefully our learning is completed, we move onto the next level of our spiritual journey, understanding and knowledge learned and used with greater clarity in our next life. There are some 'old souls' walking among us now trying to correct and save our planet.

[@IceQeen1011]

Thank you, beautiful

[@pshah7979]

According to the Bhagwat Gita, our occupation and skills make us a brahmin, shudra, etc (dalit word is not in any Hindu book)

[@sorenutpal6091]

Keep your victim blaming mindset to yourself. All lower caste people should convert to Buddhism or Christianity. When Brahman religion will be minority in india only then they will understand. Jai Bhim

[@manofsan]

Word 'Dalit' was coined by some anti-poverty activists in the 1980s who came together and declared poor people to be 'Dalits' (they made up their own word for poor people, and called it an ethnic group). Prior to this, the word did not exist.

[@robertbernard6410]

I didn't think that the caste system was brought to Canada

[@wewantmoreboomboom8313]

It was brought to the gta

[@rangergxi]

Most Indian immigrants have been Brahmins for decades now. They have maintained their caste pride, while in India caste is a taboo. More recent immigrants come from the other castes so its become a bigger issue.

[@VijayKumar-dn4pz]

@Hat67 That's a silly thing to say. Brahmins were prevented from traveling abroad Becuase of the caste. Look up the case of the mathematician Ramanunjan. You just posted a completely fabricated tale.

[@asingha94]

​@@rangergxi Nobody follows caste in west. Even in India it's diminishing. There's no caste discrimination proven through court of law in anywhere in the west. Bunch of leftist cabal propaganda & narrative building politics. Hindus have the lowest recorded crime in all over west. Out of nothing all of a sudden why are they concerned about caste? It explains all.

[@pshah7979]

​@Hat67 actually most immigrants are "merchants". But caste is not Hindu, varna-jati is, which btw is fluid and is based on one's occupation. So it made my grandmother brahmin and my grandfather a shudra.

[@satanshameer690]

Caste is nothing but racial slavery. The Aryans who invaded South Asia arranged the people into castes. People with more aryan ancestry at the top, Harappan/Dravidian ancestry in the middle and people with more aboriginal ancestry at the bottom. The Aryans themselves took wives from Harappan groups and the descendants mostly formed the top echelon of Indian caste system. Upper castes - pure Aryans/aryan-harappan mix Middle castes - high Harappan ancestry Lower castes - high ancestry. It's the inefficiency of Harappans(Neolithic Iranians) who led to this

[@pshah7979]

There was no Aryan invasion. Please read, that theory has been proven incorrect. You are spewing incorrect information.

[@Seevawonderloaf]

Do you know why caste exists in india?? Not because of Hinduism. Because politics in india allows there to be caste based parties including parties that are created and supported by these so called ' marginalised' groups. What is the dalit-bahujan party then? What are dmk then?? Yet caste is Hindu apparently. What a disgrace

[@shepherd4901]

If you don't tackle this problem seriously, Canada will no longer be able to have a tag of developed country... The choice is yours... Don't follow the path of India because it is as dangerous as you never thought before... 🙏

[@Seevawonderloaf]

You say Hinduism sanctions caste and it is rigid yet you see people of all 'castes' in all fields in india. The duly elected prime minister is from the shudra caste and the president is from the 'untouchable' caste. India has worked hard to get rid of the caste system. We Hindus don't practice it yet you have told us that caste is an essential feature in Hinduism. Would you say slavery, murder, ra**, xenophobia are all inherent to Christianity and Islam since both of them sanction these things and state them explicitly? In Hinduism there are over 4000 communities, 10000 traditions and more than 10k books yet you select 1 scripture from a book NO HINDU READS. Why don't you listen to REAL Hindus rather than implicating us as inherently discriminatory??? That's the DEFINITION of Hinduphobia.

[@sorenutpal6091]

Keep your victim blaming mindset to yourself. All lower caste people should convert to Buddhism or Christianity. When Brahman religion will be minority in india only then they will understand. Jai Bhim

[@billybutcher6504]

There are only 5 percent intercaste marriages in India. This only exposes the casteist mindset of hindus

[@pshah7979]

Caste is not Varna-jati system, in ancient times the varna is decided based on the occupation, so my dad is a brahmin but I am a shudra. What is taught in western textbooks is not right. The word Caste is not Hindu, the British could not understand the varna-jati system so they just made generalizations. So according to the varna system, I would be a shudra, but my father is a brahmin by occupation

[@yashisingh135]

just stop using wrong facts..

[@raghavendraraokarkalavasud299]

What does your birth certificate say? Brahmin or shudra?

[@pshah7979]

@@raghavendraraokarkalavasud299 neither, it would say Hindu

[@pshah7979]

@Skyzz what are the facts? If you know, then share.

[@yashisingh135]

@@pshah7979 go and read gita u will know what caste based on biryh or occupation??🙂🤣

[@operatorx444x4]

Boo

[@cinefile0075]

Hindu scriptures invented and promoted caste system written by brahmins to hold the hegemony and power in their hands

[@billybutcher6504]

Convert urself. Ur anchestors were Buddhist. Be proud that u are Buddhist. Follow AMBEDKARS path. The rivalry betw Buddhism and Brahmanism has made Buddhist untouchable. Read History and embrace Buddhism. Jai Bhim! Namo Buddhay!

[@1B1000S]

This is about freedom of speech. If I don’t want to associate with some bangi chura, that is my personal right. Last I check not associating with someone does not equate to harming them.