What is Mathcore?

I promise I'm not making these up. Despite it's strange name, Mathcore is quite a unique style; A glitchy, frenetic offshoot of Metalcore. It says a lot about "society". I do not own the music, it is for educational and entertainment purposes, as always. Thanks for watching. Feel free to like, comment, subscribe, and all that Jazz. Ya like Jazz? Maybe you'll appreciate Mathcore.

[@whatsinameme5258]

Songs Used: 43% Burnt by Dillinger Escape Plan. Can You Feel My Heart by Bring Me the Horizon. Empty Promises by Hatebreed. Concubine by Jane Doe. Transitions from Persona to Object. Spitting Venom by Hatebreed. Setting Fire to Sleeping Giants by Dillinger Escape Plan. Scum by Napalm Death. Good Neighbor by Dillinger Escape Plan. Numbers by Psychostick (Bodies Parody). Facepalm Mute by Periphery. Machine by Born of Osiris. Pennyweight by After the Burial. Stengah by Meshuggah. For We Are Many by All That Remains. Farewell, Mona Lisa, Milk Lizard, and One of Us is the Killer by Dillinger Escape Plan. You Can't Kill Us All by Coalesce. Divided by Candiria. Ball Tongue by KoRn. Doomtech by Vein. Anthem of the Angry Brides by Norma Jean. Buffalo Gals by Every Time I Die. Tastes like Kevin Bacon by Iwrestledabearonce. To Playact in Static by Arsonists Get All the Girls. Ants of the Sky by Between the Buried and Me. Grocery Escape Plan by Psychostick.

[@getreal7328]

would it be okay if you could list them like this? >song by band >song by band >song by band it just helps me find stuff easier, thanks

[@anony-moon]

Bruh

[@antimarx265]

Dude you forget tony danza tapdance extravaganza and ion dissonance

[@quad4machine769]

Old school metalcore slaps

[@cherryfroggo]

Metallic Hardcore and Mathcore still slap. I wish more newer Metalcore bands would use these elements, but alas Metalcore is always whatever it is in the moment 🥲

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb]

@@cherryfroggo vein, gaza, end, harms way, dying wish, boundaries, nails, scalp, world of pleasure, i could go forever

[@cherryfroggo]

@@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb Those are some good bands but I wouldn't put a lot of them in a playlist with Metallic Hardcore. It's just not the same music. Vein and End are both very modern sounding bands

[@cherryfroggo]

@@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb Moral Law, Faced Out and Cruelty I think are some good examples of picking up where Metallic Hardcore left off

[@DjevelKristus666]

True I hate the electronics trap and pop beats that modern metal core has just give me the bass the guitars and drums and I am good

[@Malum09]

Funnily enough i read that the band MUDVAYNE once jokingly called themselves "Math Metal", but a lot of fans took that at face value and say that's their genre ever since.

[@Eichro]

fans took "SOADcore" seriously as well. The mid 2000s were funny for metalheads on the internet.

[@whatsinameme5258]

I have heard people say that Djent is Math Metal. That is quite different from Mudvayne though.

[@Malum09]

@@whatsinameme5258 funnily enough Tv Tropes consider them and Deftones as Proto-Djent.

[@atvena]

The LD 50 album is very mathy

[@GVLSCH]

I love mathcore so much such an underrated genre

[@shroomlord682]

gaza is another great mathcore-esque band, they are a kinda sludgecore/mathcore hybrid

[@ArkaeaFCL3]

Dillinger always reminded me of a manic Schizophrenic breakdown. Just absolute madness and chaos. Calculating infinity is still an insane album.

[@Gutek8134]

Band recommendation: Car Bomb

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

Grindcore is just mathcore if you can’t read music Like me

[@atvena]

I want to start a mathcore band just so I can call one of our songs "duck tape"

[@schizophrenicenthusiast]

I think Car Bomb is currently the leading Mathcore band. Can anyone name others? I'm looking for more. Also, awesome video as always.

[@mirko92916]

I think it too but I would like to see again from them somethink like Centralia. The last albums lacks that level of "crazyness" that I love so much.

[@statiic_hydra8678]

3:17 “How is mathcore different from other genres?” Other genres on a skipping CD sounds awful, but Mathcore on a skipping CD sounds like an actual song

[@terriblecertainity]

for metallic hardcore fans trying to get into mathcore, I highly reccomend " Fixation On A Coworker" by Deadguy...sort of the missing link between both styles

[@TriforceElder08]

I played in a mathcore band around 2010-2015 and I love hearing about the history of the genre and seeing it get any acknowledgement nowadays. Great video bud.

[@BattleKegGreg]

Your channel has very quickly become one of my favorite channels full stop. Good shit!

[@maryfreegirl2029]

Love the discussion of the themes, one of the best parts of the videos!

[@asoran8528]

Thank you for the upload man, your metal videos are like crack to me. I could just put them all in a playlist and listen to them for hours.

[@OverdadeiroIkarus]

Me too

[@thelastdaybreathinginetern1385]

I've been a Metalhead for 15 years. I love all styles of Metal. Dillinger Escape Plan was one of the first bands that got me into Metal. They were awesome. I follow Greg Puciato's music whatever that may be.

[@sandhya315]

Candiria 🤘🏾🤘🏾

[@effigy4541]

Thanks for this! I was looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this style of music, but I wasn't sure when/if it would happen because there seems to be a near-infinite supply of subgenres these days. Good stuff as always!

[@Itbecause]

Also I'd like to point out that the earlier iwrestledabearonce is that "Lol-so-randomz-core" you're talking about, but their latest album is pure Mathcore

[@oliverbock5659]

Very good summary of the genre. Thumbs up!

[@Jackadiah]

Man we need a funk metal video soon

[@irrakus]

There are also mathcore bands blending in screamo like The Number 12 Looks Like You

[@Chelseagrinkittycat]

Arsonist Get All The Girls is pretty good, their album Motherland was a bit more serious compared to their other work but the 42nd Ego was fucking awesome lol. The Dillinger Escape Plan was a band that took a bit for me to get into. Their newer albums helped me a lot into getting into them like you mentioned.

[@allenkramer4601]

Thanks 🥰

[@adamlawson5021]

Deadguy would have been a great example of early mathcore too.

[@lunarstrain235]

DeadguyCore

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

6:48 and a bit of Neurosis influence too

[@VARVIS_]

Love the vids I want longer 👍👍

[@whatsinameme5258]

Thanks man. I just watched your Metalcore video the other day. It was pretty solid.

[@motoboydohabbibs3153]

You guys are my favorite metal youtubers. I always was a tecnical guy only caring about the instrumentation. Somehow the videos of both of you made me think about meaning of the metal. Thank you very much! Shout out from brazil

[@shroomlord682]

ayyy youre here too

[@VARVIS_]

@@whatsinameme5258 ayyy Cheers bro ❤️

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb]

cant believe you didnt mention gaza and end

[@luissubero8662]

Love your videos Occulturation. You're kind of my zen master in this journey though metal "illumination". Really apreciate the great effort. I really would love to see more analysis in metalcore genres. I feel is the side of metal thats more confused and misinterpreted. Would love to heard about the progression of metal before elements aside beginning to influence it (like djent or post-hardcore). Also, i have this little theory that metalcore is, more than combination between thrash metal and hardcore punk, a really diverse fusion between extreme metal (thrash and death mainly) and punk elements (specially hardcore and post hardcore, but maybe even crust punk). For this theories i based in the work of Breakdown Of Sanity, Bleed From Within, Unearth and even Varials (which i considere sometimes make a glitchy version of metalcore really inspired in Sworn In). But those are only my views. Really thanks for the great work.

[@Aluenvey]

Bookmarking. Ive heard of Math Rock...by route of J Rock. Im obsessed with one specific subgenre of jazz.

[@sleepi4689]

i am an old boring man past mid forty but here's three albums i encourage everyone to listen to if even slightly interested in stuff like this.

[@sleepi4689]

car bomb - meta kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIa5lKGpnreEaq8

[@sleepi4689]

dali thundering concept - savages kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZfVg4xvjaplm9E

[@sleepi4689]

the hirsch effekt - holon:agnosie kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKu5aHmOmNFln8k

[@KaynDagas-fk8jw]

New sub

[@beepbeeptaco92]

0:25 Great track from a great album

[@anothersettlementneedsyour9628]

How come you didn’t mention our favorite christian blackened mathcore, Drottnar?

[@Beastlango]

I’m definitely looking them up that sounds amazing

[@rand0mguyontheinternet]

Old underoath

[@Beastlango]

@@rand0mguyontheinternet the only albums I like from them are the first two, definitely a unique sound to them

[@TaxEvader420]

Petition to name the Iwabo thing ADHD-Core

[@whatsinameme5258]

That works too.

[@marc_fp]

Never got into mathcore. And I think I'll never will

[@blacksideknight3]

Maybe coulda mentioned mathcore's hippy cousin: Mathrock ... but solid video Some other relevant bands for people (I haven't seen mentioned yet): Psyopus, Behold the Arctopus, Journal, Blotted Science, Hunab Ku, Last Chance to Reason, Frontierer, I Speak In Calculus, George Orwell the Musical, Dionaea

[@cerokov]

Arctopus is awesome. I actually saw Colin live with Gorguts (the Mathcore of Death Metal) and he was fucking awesome

[@Astaroth_Belial]

DISCORDANCE AXIS!!!!!!! 😭

[@MrNiceguyofficial]

Listening to one of these tracks requires 24 hours of sleep for my brain to recover

[@dikardvondoom3574]

Shout out to early Rolo Tomassi mathcore hybrid albums. French Motel is 🤌.

[@markmattimore592]

Mathcore is the musical equivalent of JG Ballard's writing.

[@failuretolaunchdrums]

Smaller band but check out Lye by Mistake

[@primus6677]

When I first saw the genre's name, I thought "hold on, what on earth is this?", then once a song played I was caught completely off guard as I didn't expect something hardcore from it.

[@dante7935]

CarBomd es Mathcore/Djent una escuchada a esa banda sin duda.

[@ilv1]

Hey man... What about The Number 12 Looks Like You? I always thought of them of as mathcore...

[@CountGremlin]

"scene kid millennials, who think Charlie the Unicorn is the funniest thing ever" Never felt so personally attacked 😂

[@bitffald]

Could you make one of these about nu-core? Including the band tallah possibly

[@antares4975]

next: Post-Hair Metal

[@lorddyson6487]

What genre would u say Sikth is? Great series btw 👍

[@Beastlango]

I alway realated them to prog/djent because they were a big influence on periphery. They actually started touring again because Misha mentioned them a lot and help get their name out here. I even saw them on tour together.

[@Beastlango]

I alway realated them to prog/djent because they were a big influence on periphery. They actually started touring again because Misha mentioned them a lot and help get their name out here. I even saw them on tour together.

[@minedude33]

btw, early BTBAM was math rock/mathcore (Shame they dropped the sound in favor of pure prog-core)

[@christianjackson9360]

MATHCORE? Meaning additional metal? I beg to differ!!!

[@finnlewis2528]

Power Metal episode when?

[@infinite_recursion]

Um, actually I prefer the term calculuscore thank you very much. It seems more…mathematically accurate 🤓

[@Copecel]

That song from candiria kinda songs nu metalish.

[@coryleblanc]

listen to Within Dividia by The End

[@ef3353]

Would you consider circle takes the square as mathcore?

[@atvena]

Noisecore

[@Eichro]

Is there anything "math" about Every Time I Die, though? I guess it has some of that aesthetic and production but without any of the genre defining wankery

[@whatsinameme5258]

Fair point. Maybe because Southern Metal is a pretty basic rock music, it minimizes how chaotic it is. Probably the most normal sounding band of the genre for sure. It still sounds more frenetic than something like Hatebreed though.

[@JN-xb6pq]

I'm gonna start a band that combines mathcore, djentcore and technical deathcore just to make things more confusing for everyone.

[@brgplxdfkuhecnxde1613]

what song is at 1:47 ?

[@jesuisunstroopwafel]

I thought this was metalcore with math.

[@do_yohomework]

What is?… a good subgenre

[@Copecel]

Talk about early post hardcore, like from late 80s to early 2000s. Not the emo pop bands that came later.

[@stantorren4400]

Post-hardcore is still shit, regardless if it’s “emo” or not

[@rand0mguyontheinternet]

​@@stantorren4400 glassjaw is not poopoobutt

[@Debaucherry]

So Basically Archspire needs to do Mathcore and you get the ultimate Schizo combo

[@rand0mguyontheinternet]

Btbam is not.. that? You may need to listen to something from them like Alaska or the parralax 2

[@rand0mguyontheinternet]

Also I wanna mention eighteen visions and poison the well

[@rand0mguyontheinternet]

And zao cuz why not

[@whatsinameme5258]

I love Alaska. It is pretty much just on Colors where they are close to that Lolzsorandomcore. I should have clarified that.

[@chriscrock4577]

aw man i was hoping mathcore would be ppl solving complex equations but screaming over metal instrumentals

[@paineoftheworld]

Not sure it's metal, but could investigate clowncore? Seriously.

[@MegaMav101]

Mathcore aka the best metalcore

[@OverdadeiroIkarus]

Methcore........ Laugh now

[@Itbecause]

I like how you just throw in a random album and don't bother whether the song you play is from that album or not

[@whatsinameme5258]

I did show the proper album 90% of the time.

[@evergreen3532]

First

[@Mesumcore]

Comedycore😅

[@octopusonfire100]

ffs, how can you judge BTBAM for 1% of their discography....

[@milkman2266]

Im usually very even-tempered and willing to say "its not for me, but its for someone else", because I hate gatekeepers, which metal has way too many of. but man do i fucking hate dillinger escape plan. it is insulting to my ears. I listen to literally hundreds of bands from all different sub genres of metal, and I fuck with periphery, born of osiris, and a handful of others from this subgenre, but i just fucking hate DEP. Sorry if this offends anyone 😎

[@Itbecause]

Well... it's not like they're supposed to be an easy band to grasp. Most of it is just pure anger (with the exception of some of their later music)

[@whatsinameme5258]

You are not alone in that. They are the perfect litmus test for the people that say that they listen to everything. Haha. I love em but I understand. I do however, vastly prefer Ire Works and onward Dillinger, over Calculating Infinity. Which is blasphemous to die hard Mathcore fans.

[@Itbecause]

@@whatsinameme5258 Calculating Infinity is the worst DEP album. I know a lot of DEP fans would say it's Ire Works and I wouldn't disagree

[@Komaeda_Lor]

Old school metalcore are incredible bad

[@Itbecause]

-snare

[@Deadpool-px2nm]

This is a shit take if Ive ever seen one

[@rand0mguyontheinternet]

False..