what is selfcest?

[@pidgeongguk8818]

England inbreeding with himself seems historically accurate

[@best_of_ant]

I laughed so hard at this when i saw it

[@pyroforgthe27th]

You, sir (gender neutral), win the internet for today.

[@chibiotaku7547]

The wheeze that escaped me..

[@kittyt.s.p]

@@pyroforgthe27thyou, gender

[@loodgack]

That fandom had EVERYTHING

[@akinarii1]

Idk why but hearing you say “doppelbanger” has me in hysterics

[@viro_the_sheep]

lmaoo theres also the term mirror shipping

[@AmarisFrede]

I'll try to adopt Doppelbanger as the term for this. The motive itself seems way too tame for the -cest part attached.

[@dillzee]

"My very own clone!" "Now neither of us will be virgins!!!"

[@BJGvideos]

That was the first thing I posted after beating Pokémon Violet

[@ClownHoundII]

If you wanted to bang your own clone, you could bang your twin as they are by definition a genetic clone of you.

[@Jenniferr_00000]

@@dillzee Tf 😭💀💀💀

[@cesarzalad]

@@ClownHoundIIjust no

[@starsneptunexx]

That just sounds sad 😂

[@mybluecatstudio]

People freaking out over loki getting a kiss from his female counter part... like... guys... that is not the weirdest thing loki has done. Loki has turned himself into a mare got pregnant, gave birth to a 6 legged horse and gave that horse to his own father and loki never told him where that horse came from. Loki kissing his female counterpart is so tame compared to that. Only one crazier than loki is Deadpool.

[@pillblug]

loki mpreg

[@lorikeetrainwing]

It was an 8-legged horse. And in some versions of the mythology he also gave birth to Jormungandr, Fenrir, and Hel after eating his dead giant wife's heart. So yeah, he's done weirder than kiss another him.

[@mybluecatstudio]

@@lorikeetrainwing Lol i forgot to do math right lol XD yes an 8-legged horse lol

[@rowanisntreal]

The fact that it’s canon is the crazy part, that plot line was 100% something I expected from AO3, Disney not so much.

[@maxcollateral]

I feel like half of the reason for the fandoms reaction to Loki x Sylvie was because there was a lot more people rooting for Loki x Mobius because they had more chemistry and on-screen time beforehand

[@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155]

Selfcest: the ultimate asexual person (Note: this joke is made by an asexual person)

[@SunnLikesStuff]

Ace also here, if I have to do anyone, it better be my clone. Nobody else, only my clone.

[@CharliePotato]

Hello fellow asexuals

[@serenegenerally]

…yeah

[@WORLDTOURGIRL]

​@@CharliePotatoheya

[@purrowell]

You heard of autosexual?

[@flame_meh1468]

As an identical twin, thank you for saying that we are different because many people just say we are the same person or just call us “The twins” or “Twin” instead of trying to see our differences and learn which one is which. Which takes away our individuality and makes many identical twins feel like they are not their own person :] Thank you

[@NekoChanSenpai]

Literally the hiitachin brothers arc in Ouran.

[@ChimeraLotietheBunny]

Agreed

[@tsuki3752]

fr it’s the worst argument against selfcest because little did y’all know, they’re diff people!

[@fictionlover695]

​@@NekoChanSenpai also Fred and George Weasley

[@ClownHoundII]

​@tsuki3752 In selfcest it's technically different people as it's the same person from a different universe with a different life. The only similarities they have is same genetics ans same parents.

[@BlindStarLily]

Am I the only one who thinks it would be completely in character for Bill Cipher to engage in selfcest? He’s definitely self important enough. Maybe the breakup with Ford gave him the whole, “If you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself,” mentality-

[@lowpolyzoe]

These are the best selfcest ships

[@snorpington5910]

*you gotta do yourself mentality

[@TheCoffeeCrow]

same deal with loki honestly, i saw that kiss and was like "yeah that tracks with narcissus over here"

[@fuckhandsmcmike]

the only problem i personally see here is bill's deeply buried self hatred* *idk if im just seeing things but something about the way that he talks screams self-hate to me. im probably projecting at least a little bit, but to me, something about him vibes "i hate you more than anyone else, youre the reason everything is awful (is talking to a mirror)"

[@VeryUncreative]

Honestly yeah I could see it lol

[@n.e.2570]

0:06 Unfortunately for me it's never "Oh no Coley what are you going to explain to me this time?" but always "Crap! How chronically online am I that I already know exactly what you're talking about?" lmao 😂

[@ayae12]

Fr 😅

[@agalwithnoname]

There hasnt been a single one i dont know about

[@hiimverus]

i feel like the undertale aus are their own fandom at this point. there’s entire animated series on youtube, and the worst part is that they’re good.

[@paradoxtatorstudios9681]

Honestly, lol. The UTAUs never felt like Undertale to me. They feel more like OCs who have created their own entire new world to thrive in.

[@bumbabees]

they absolutely are. i always kept to the main fandom and now that ive gotten curious and have started looking into the AUs, i realize i know absolutely nothing. i started watching underverse a while ago and had no fucking clue what was going on at any given point. i respect the dedication, but its so far removed from what undertale is. you get to a certain point and they arent even alternate universes anymore.

[@ItsDioxide]

It’s really funny to see a selfcest tag on a fic cause then I causes you to remember how it’s literally just alternate versions of sans or re-imagines of him and then you kinda get stuck with that thought for a bit

[@--CHARLIE--]

Especially since the undertale fans who didn't get that deep are now more so Deltarune fans now.

[@ihappydawnz]

i was soooo obssessed with underverse, it still is amazing today!

[@samanthadegroot7749]

i''ve seen people say that its problematic because it "promotes narcissism", which is the stupidest argument ive ever heard because narcisistic personality disorder is an actual mental disorder and cannot be 'promoted", that's like saying that something promotes anxiety or bipolar disorder, it's not a choice someone makes to have or not, and its also not an inherently bad thing to be.

[@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard]

if i took a shot for every time people were extrenly ableistic towards people with NPD i would have died years ago after the first day

[@samanthadegroot7749]

@@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard YOU. you are the only person who understands me.

[@randomnoob101flyhightweek]

@@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizardfr!

[@NoiseDay]

Ignoring the NPD angle (because these people clearly don't know what that is), it's such a bizarre take to say it's bad to love yourself. You can be a selfish asshole and still hate yourself. If we all loved ourselves more in a genuine way, we'd be better people.

[@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard]

@samanthadegroot7749 seems my comment was hidden for whatever reason :( hope i didnt typo something into a slur or something i tend to not check for typos due to fast typing, but im glad two people agree

[@Solluna_Lumen]

As an Undertale Alternative Universe connoisseur, it’s always funny to see people from the outside of the fandom looking in. After so many years here you start to forget you are essentially shipping the same guy with himself over and over again.

[@kaydee-voidish2684]

at this point they don't feel like the same guy anymore

[@Witherrain]

I didn't even know that the sanscest stuff added up to ALL of the sans AU's the fandom 😭 the fandom genuinely made me think it was just the incest between sans and papyrus from any AU 💀 i just learned what it meant a few weeks ago

[@AuroraPaintBrush4444]

At this point "Sans" feels like a species like Elves, or Pokemon. Especially pokemon. Throw a Moon stone at one, throw a water stone to another and get different results. Throw one into the Anti Void, throw one into a post apocalypse, and get different results.

[@billciphergirl6049]

As a fellow conessouoir... fr 😭😭😭

[@billciphergirl6049]

​@@AuroraPaintBrush4444 On point 😂

[@just.a.sad.frogman]

I was watching this like "Ha ha, selfcest is so weird and interesting!" And then the Sanders Sides stuff came up and I realized that I was the fool, lol.

[@SmerkyRandomised]

So true, i had never even heard of this, but i was like "huh, interesting concept" And then i got jumpscared by the sanders sides mention, like "well you definitely have a point....i feel like it's a bit more debatable/nuanced, but that is fair enough honestly" Seriously, how come the fandoms i end up in never have normal shipping, like between all the characters are technically the same person; the main ship both aren't human, mortal, or gendered; the characters are actually just real people playing a videogame; two people sharing the same body, and probably more stuff i'm forgetting, i've really had a crazy time here lol

[@sergeantsarcasm7]

Saaaaaaaaaaaaame

[@nyx6901]

Yeah I was not ready for the Sanders sides call out- Cause like, idk I guess we tend to forget they are essentially just the same person???

[@UJEvans]

Welcome to our "Hear Me Out" Cake! I brought a picture of myself... And i brought a picture of myself... And i brought a picture of myself...

[@eggtoucher]

everyone go home this comment wins

[@thelocalshoop]

LMAOOO THIS IS GOLD

[@SUTAZZZ]

​@@eggtoucherEXACTLY

[@Unidentified952]

LMAOO

[@wendyswirls]

FR LOL

[@pillblug]

guys is adam x eve from the bible selfcest?

[@harperglitterheart]

Lmao

[@BrielleMyers-v8c]

EXACTLY!

[@dinoZZZ-Dd]

OH MY GOD! I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS 😭😭 YOU JUST OPENED MY MIND

[@julian7434]

Yes

[@skirfdirsh]

write that down, write that down!!

[@GibusWearingMann]

i am BEGGING tumblr not to call ANY character "the pimpler" i stg

[@ZeldaWayne_Letsplays]

It just sounds like what would happen if the Riddler was obsessed with pimples

[@Melonist]

​@@ZeldaWayne_Letsplays "You're too late, batman! I've already given the entire police department horrible acne!"

[@ZeldaWayne_Letsplays]

@@Melonist Thanks for the laugh

[@KatanaNovaCat]

The Pimpler sounds like a Grossology villain... one who would know Lance Boil somehow

[@thephantomwolf1002]

acne onceler.

[@user-cu3ij1po9p]

I genuienly had no idea that selfcest was a subject of discourse. Do people just want everything to be "problematic" now?

[@BJGvideos]

You know they do. A lot of people have a vested interest in making basic fiction controversial and "wrong" so that nobody ever shows imagination and grows up viewing others with suspicion and paranoia, so these people can posit themselves as "safe" and "trustworthy". They're trying to start a culture war and it's working and we need to fight antis as the cryptofascists they are.

[@skirfdirsh]

Mhm, I have quite a few moots who deal with fandom discourse and my god the people they deal with will make anything problematic. Absolutely insane.

[@Pinky_Lover_]

Oh gods Please don't uncover my decades worth of a sanscest obsession Again, I just got over that

[@ShadowMilkMoon]

mine has been in dormant for a while now 😂 Not obsessed but still there

[@billciphergirl6049]

Nah, fr 😭

[@kris_underrune]

I've been into Sans AUs ever since like...june this year... I've been hyperfixated on Undertale and Deltarune (them being my special interests too) but never Sans AUs And here I am, shrieking and yelling over the smallest mention of them in a video 😭

[@DrCocofruit]

Reignite that flame. >:D

[@azr3ii]

dude i just got back out of the fandom and this just might suck me back in 😭

[@Hawzyn]

Yk, the undertale fandom actually goes way deeper, fyi they didnt create different versions of sans to ship him with himself, it all started when a person imagined "what if the underground was actually a kill or be killed place?" As the character flowey says when he introduces us to the underground. And that person created designs a story and a fan game, people loved this idea and short after people thought, well why not make a universe where every character swaps personality with someone? And so we had the original universe, Undertale, the kill or be killed universe, underfell (because the creators name was something something and ended with fell) and a swap universe, underswap. After a bit of interaction between these characters torought the ask blogs, people mainly made sans meet other versions of himself since sans is the fandoms favorite character, and the fandom went kinda crazy with the universe creating, some people created universes with sans as the only character since everyone wanted sans and didnt care for other characters. Like Ink Sans, a protector of Alternate Universes, an artist whos job is to motivate the fandom to keep writting and creating content and also protecting universes from other universal dangers. Or Error sans, who after injecting determination in his soul, got trapped in an endless void and slowly went mad, which gave him anomaly and glitchy powers which he uses to destroy universes since he sees every universe who isnt the undertale, underfell or underswap as anomalies. Or ever Dreamtale, where its not actually a undertale universe but a tree of feelings goddess who got attacked and on her last moments divided her soul into one being of positive emotions and one being of negative emotions, and when quickly searching for bodies to have these 2 souls, she ended up finding underswap and coincidentally picked sans, yes its an AU where twin sanses are the positive emotions and negative emotions protectors, some shit happens and they end up becoming the main villain and main hero of the alternative universes, gathering other sans to help them defeat their twin and bring eternal negativity/positivity to all the multiverse After all this plot, the fandom actually realized the characters were so different they arent even slightly close to sans, personality wise, their mentality, likes, looks, everything is very different, and with no one else to ship, since the multiverse war happened between the star sanses and Bad sanses, made exclusivly as sans groups. People began shipping these different sanses with eachother

[@MaimeBow]

I could watch a 10 hour video essay breaking down these aus and not get bored lmao, i crave it

[@Hawzyn]

@MaimeBow lol same mate, I can't explain how deep go the roots of this fandom into my core, I caught myself giving an hour long speech just about dreamtale to a friend some hours ago ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[@turkisipaimon]

When you put it that way... It feels like this is a Marvel Universe with some silly skeletons in it

[@Hawzyn]

@@turkisipaimon marvel got the what if idea from Undertale 😔/j

[@FanTDM2003]

Someone needs to make this now lol ​@@MaimeBow

[@CyrahLia_459]

All the Hazbin Characters' opinions fit SO well to the characters-

[@Leniyourhost]

IM SOBBING. BUT FR😭😭😭 1:32 Adam was wild for that💀

[@EmmaPie13]

Which reminds me people ship Hazbin characters(mostly Alastor really) with their pilot, pre-pilot and human designs. Is that also self est

[@DeathKitta]

I feel like Niffty would also be on Val's place(she is def kinkster) and Al could be on her place, because ew interacting with other people, but with yourself well now we are talking xD

[@DeathKitta]

@@EmmaPie13 I would think so yes, it's the version of them.

[@AmarisFrede]

Just that "No" at the end was so good!

[@yassvaritaass]

2:14 HELP ALASTOR CAUGHT ME SO OFF GUARD

[@merobiba413]

SAMEE I GOT LOWKEY JUMPSCARED

[@EmeraldSands]

Anyone remember when the Miraculous Ladybug fandom got really into Adrichat (shipping Adrien with his superhero alter ego) for a while a few years back? Surprised to not see a mention of that in here

[@SkullQueen33]

I'm searching that later for...uh, researching purposes 👍

[@summerheart9834]

lol yeah

[@remiravioli]

I do! From what i remember it stemmed from a joke someone on tumblr made but i think after the alternate universe special some people started getting into it genuinely

[@DrCocofruit]

Hasn't the dude bene transformed/cloned three times? Honestly the material was right there for people to pick up

[@glowstickspinalfluid]

i think it was just for the bit

[@toothfairy10133]

solidly in the "ive been fucking waiting for this one" category. before the episode starts i wanna say that i literally do not see it as problematic. thats not ur family member thats You. it's the most consensual consent you can ever consent to. it's just you it's fine it's literally the 500 year old vampire vs 50 year old vampire deal

[@merobiba413]

not to mention it's physically impossible. I feel like normal debates about morality can't really be applied to fiction tropes that are impossible irl (like you said, 500 year old vampire vs 50 year old vampire)

[@vivipettiss5832]

Me evilly looking in the mirror and thinking I'm pretty (im promoting narcissism, incest, and noncon >:3)

[@eggtoucher]

selfcest has always been kinda conflicting to me. its really weird but also i dont NOT like it.. you explained it best, its like a super intimate way of accepting yourself and i think thats strangely beautiful. super weird and unrealistic, but beautiful.

[@THATBrokeAroSpecWallet]

Honestly I feel you on the conflicting part-

[@M4t_P4tGT]

I feel like there could easily be a less freaky way to create a story like this, though

[@depthstrider68]

​@@Jenniferr_00000me too

[@sampalguita]

omg this exactly! i dont think its immoral and gross the way that incest is but i still think its weird but also in the perspective of self-love its kind of cute? but also ???

[@silverwings920]

All I'm saying is that if there was a more-put-together version of me who traveled from the future just to give me hug and tell me i'm gonna be okay, I would be in pieces, sobbing.

[@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard]

my emotional attachemebt issues would immediatly make me fall in love and my other me would fucking KNOW

[@captainH023]

Selfcest, truly the definition "If you can't love yourself...". Probably one of my favorite ship trope ever especially when it involves AUs, multiple timelines, and other such shenanigans

[@AnInsideJoke]

Also the definition of "Go fuck yourself!" depending on how spicy you want to go.

[@strelitziamystery21]

I still can't believe Loki made Selfcest mainstream lol Like I was watching that with my family who do not understand fandom stuff at all so when it happened I think I was the only one who saw it coming. Like I was shocked that they would do this at all in a Marvel show on Disney, but I was at least familiar with the concept. My family on the other hand...

[@makhnothecossack4948]

Well, from how I've rationalized it, its more complicated, as they do not share any genes, they only share the same cosmic position, but not biological similarities, as that would make Lokigator to be literally impossibility. Only problem it causes is that them being together outside of TVA is an eternal nexus event lol.

[@lavenderisdedagain4554]

I would like to say that the AU’s came before the Sancest and not the other way around. From my memory, Undertale was just very AUable. And two AUs in particular became essentially the fandoms collaborative project. UnderFell and UnderSwap. UnderFellbeing a “what if everyone who was good was evil and everyone who was evil was good?” AU. And then Underswap is a role swap AU. Then… the fandom looked at sans, their favorite guy, and went “oh! What if Sans because of his aforementioned fourth wall break abilities and awareness of other timelines let him meet the other version of himself??” And then the Selfcest happened. Papyrus also gets roped into it sometimes since he’s the fandoms other favorite guy and is related to Sans . From there the AUs, and then the sans getting shipped kinda just built on eachother on the same time. And also THE LORE. Because the fandom basically created a Multiverse that had like, rules and stuff. And was generally just its own thing only mostly based on undertale. It was totally possible to be a part of the Undertale fandom without generally being into the Sans AUs, but all sans AU fans were part of the Undertale fandom y’know? Now though, they’re generally thought of as interchangeable.

[@--CHARLIE--]

Thank you for explaining this because if you didn't I would've been compelled to do so instead against my will. I will say though, Underfell isn't a morality inversion au, it's just edgy undertale. Like on purpose. The fact that flowey is the one nice character is unrelated to the core premise.

[@lavenderisdedagain4554]

@@--CHARLIE-- its OG concept was a morality inversion AU. Similarly Chara is nice in this AU, though it evolved more into "Undertale but Edgy" as time went on.

[@Hario338]

One small correction I want to make also (from the video, not your comment) is that sans doesn't actually know he's in a game, as far as I'm aware. He's aware of resets, different timelines, the fact there is an external observer, and he has found unique ways to abuse game-mechanics, but he doesn't believe that the world he's in is actually a video game nor does he remember things before resets. I think its a pretty big misconception but the real explanation for all of this is just that he's really observant, he can tell how many attempts the player is on fighting him, which many would believe is him actually remembering the previous resets like flowey does, but from the rest of his dialogue it becomes clear that sans simply observes minor details in frisk's body language that can tell him how many times they've died already.

[@phantommonarch6199]

I shipped a lot of Sanscest back in the day, but they felt more like a species rather than alternate versions of the same person I'm usually fine with selfcest, I only don't like when it's the result from timetravel

[@randomnoob101flyhightweek]

fr

[@ivanlol7153]

Never thought of it like that but yeah, the Sans AUs do really feel like a species

[@nilladrawsstuff]

Exactly, I think most people don't think of many of the sanses as the same person, they're all different in looks, personality, etc.

[@moshroomm]

Exactlyyy. This is how i got into the shipping side ngl. Also ive seen some people say they dont like the word "sanscest' because it has "cest" in it because it sounds way too similar to "inc*st" which honestly i understand, some of em have started calling it sansshipping or mirrorshipping instead

[@Sapphykins]

the great thing about selfcest is how someone's views on it can tell you instantly whether to avoid them. if they think fictional characters in a scenario that is literally impossible is a serious moral problem, they are not going to be fun to hang out with. it's such a time saver, and it helps you avoid the corners of fandom who think writing spurious callout posts counts as a hobby!

[@Randomduckonyoutube]

Fr some people take shipping so seriously 😭

[@frankieloinandgroin]

Honestly, compared to the many other kinks and fetishes most people can think of. It is very unproblematic. The only plausible argument I ever saw was that it means you’re narcissistic. Obviously that doesn’t work because most people are usually in it for other characters and not themselves.

[@cesarzalad]

one of my friends said that they didnt like it bc of the genetic mutations that the children would have if it was real,,,, like im talking about 2 fictional aircraft girls not real people😭 i understand what they mean but like WHAT

[@starsneptunexx]

@@frankieloinandgrointhat one cyanide and happiness short about a guy liking himself LMAO

[@Nakia11798]

Okay, yes, but I dont wanna hang out with people who think it ISN'T odd.

[@Sammy_The_Umbreon]

As someone who's been in the Undertale AU shipping trenches, there are layers to the degree of selfcest some sanscest ships are honestly. Cause despite being Sans, not all are classic sans to the same degree (like, there are sanses that start out as a classic (Geno, Murder Time Trio, etc) vs sanses that are already starting as an au (Swap, Fell, etc)), let alone if some of them actually are a sans (the Dreamtale duo, Fresh)). Anyways, at this point I'm way too desensitised to selfcest tbh

[@Void_person0]

And then there are Sans' who are just the same character but in different points of time Like error and geno (and fatal)

[@moshroomm]

Oh yeah, and the fact that there just sooo many different ships and rare pairs, its weird being in another fandom and hearing people go ape shit about a ship that isn't even weird but because it was simply a different ship that wasn't their ship. Like.. have these people never heard of multishippers?

[@hrgiderzhs837andhisharem4]

You also forgot one other notable example of this; the whole Markipliercest situation from a while back. Yes, people took all those variants of characters Markiplier played for his own original story, and shipped them. Are we surprised? Probably not, I’d assume.

[@Void_person0]

Yeah and the whole Markiplier ego lore thing This also happened with jacksepticeye

[@komascorner]

I feel like if she listed every notable instance of selfcest, we'd be here all day... I would have been down to see her go into which kingdom hearts ships she would and wouldn't consider to be selfcest though lol

[@Advenit647]

OMG HI COLEY it's dreemurr-skelememer!! im honored to be credited but 'm pretty sure the horrorberry art is by nettletale/zora-moyashi!

[@DrCocofruit]

I can't believe the arguement of selfcest is what's intriguing me to watch Yu-Gi-Oh

[@merobiba413]

honeslty? same 💀

[@janysalinas6838]

I know there's a million more instances of selfcest in fandom and Coley can't possibly get to them all so Im not complaining- but the whole time watching I couldn't stop thinking about the Rick and Morty fandom. The INSANE amount of self shipping for every character is so characteristic of the fandom in my mind! Not to mention the CANON relationships in the show. If you know you know.

[@Xaiquyn]

My personal favourite example of selfcest is Dr. Henry Jekyll x Mr. Edward Hyde. There's just so much potential for it! (If you imagine that Hyde has a separate consciousness from Jekyll, which if you read the book, he doesn't.)

[@violetroses1997]

I write homoerotic J x H fanfics on AO3 that explore their codependency. I also got into the ship more mainly from Glass Scientists. Any fans here?

[@Xaiquyn]

@@violetroses1997 Quick question, what is your Ao3 username? Asking for a friend.

[@limonadadeabacaxi6633]

Meu deus, sim! Li o livro e simplesmente me peguei pensando "essa história tem um potencial gigantesco para um fanfic".

[@merobiba413]

@@violetroses1997 Yes! I love Glass Scientists. I feel like the seperate consciousnesses and opposite color schemes really help fuel the ship in that adaptation

[@violetroses1997]

@@Xaiquyn Hey there. Sorry for the late reply. It’s RoseSilver1997

[@lovediedin2009]

ive always been reluctant to admit i kind of like selfcest stories? 😭 imo you explained it really well, its the most intimate way of accepting and loving yourself, which makes it strangely beautiful in a way. but its also just fascinating to me to see a character interact with themselves from a different time, or under different circumstances. like present v. 10 years into the future, alternate universe, pre-amnesia & post-amnesia.. i think it's really cool & fascinating to see two characters who seem to have different personalities or worldviews, but they still are made from the same building blocks, in a way.

[@Fandomcrazy09]

I'm already in the Undertale/Undertale AU fandom and have been for a while, so I'm kinda desensitized to any type of alternate universe/time fuckery and I'm also pretty desensitized to the idea of selfsest. Me and my mom were watching the Loki series, and my mother made a comment about how "weird" it is that the show was making the blonde female Loki (I forgot her name) be the love interest of regular Loki. I was both laughing and crying internally because I have seen and shipped weirder.

[@Fandomcrazy09]

Omg she started talking the Loki Series right after I posted this.

[@SkullQueen33]

"Because I have seen and shipped weirder" it's a great phrase, ngl 😂

[@billciphergirl6049]

Literally just took my experience and claimed it 😂😂😂

[@PossumsAreNice]

@@Fandomcrazy09 nice to see I’m not alone in the desensitized thing. Thank you UTMV

[@lovelessbachelor]

yeah i ship sanses like no tomorrow i forget that selfcest ISN'T a normal, average, everyday concept. thats what i get for being in the fandom for so long, IG....X')

[@inklingplush7592]

i luv selfcest it’s so so so so stupid. selfcest/clonecest will never be THE funniest thing to me. like yesss girl go love yourself!

[@rowdyruffy]

Callie real

[@Lady_ETHNE]

Rule 127 of the internet: if your fandom is big enough, there’s at least one popular selfcest ship Also about 9:40 I’ve seen a good amount of people ship Focalors and Furina together as well

[@friedsquidtofu]

RIGHT?? The more the fandom grows, the more the sprouts are going to grow.

[@samuelbutler3332]

It's not really selfcest

[@thelocalshoop]

@@samuelbutler3332 hmm, i guess its debatable. focalors separated her humanity as furina so i think it counts

[@Lady_ETHNE]

Focalors is Focalors’ divinity while Furina is her humanity, two parts of the same person If shipping the Sanders sides (multiple parts of the same person) together is selfcest, than by that logic shipping two parts of Focalors is also selfcest

[@_kpoplicious]

So true!! In my fandom we only have one selfcest fic!!! It’s a masterpiece!! Changed the whole trajectory of my life!!

[@bricali]

My favorite iteration of “selfcest” is standcest from jojo. So much introspective potential and hot moments

[@vivipettiss5832]

!!! STANDCEST MENTIONED !!! I ACTUALLY LOVE STANDCEST (or even just any stand related ship. stand x user, stand x user's partner, stand x stand of user's partner...) endless possibilities and it's really fun to explore the morality of a being that is basically the truest representation of someone that exists in that universe, but also doesn't understand communication as well sometimes, can be more naive, sometimes even acts kind of like a child (in the case of Mista's stand for instance)

[@vivipettiss5832]

It's just suppperrr interesting because "That being functions like a child", and "That being gives the truest form of consent since it is like the soul" can be true at the exact same time

[@blacberry39]

Masturbation with extra steps

[@jonathaneilbeck2263]

Not the David Carradine method.

[@ruthielalastor2209]

Masturbation with alternate POVs

[@TaylorTheCreativeOkOkOkLaLaLa]

@@ruthielalastor2209 EXACTLY

[@fujicakes_]

Damn it, you beat me to it.

[@C4n4bysmal]

HSIJSBSSJSBJAABSKSHSJS

[@ShadesBlue]

When I got the notification for this video and saw the title, my immediate first thought was "sanscest". Glad it was talked about because I honestly forgot that the Sans AUs are all technically the same person because of how different they are from each other.

[@amusedchortles]

I always forget this isn’t a thing that everyone’s used to. I was in 3 fandoms as a kid (Undertale, Sonic, and Vocaloid) all of which had major selfcest communities.

[@LeoForgetsToCreate]

The Sanders Sides one is kinda funny to me because a lot of the fandom while I was in it LOVED AUs! Throw them into a small city apartment and give them superpowers! Turn them into fae who keeps adopting random people! Running low on canon characters to use? Don't worry, pull some from the other series on the channel!

[@Sammy_The_Umbreon]

AH THE SUPERPOWER AU

[@bumbabees]

a lesson in practicality...classic.

[@turtleyapirate5270]

I REMEMBER THAT FIC

[@Sammy_The_Umbreon]

@@turtleyapirate5270 FORGET THE FIC, THERE WAS ART ABD ANIMATION ABOUT IT

[@shipsarebeautiful]

The superpower fic in question for those wondering is called A Lesson In Practicality by Residentanchor. It also has a still in-progress sequel called Probable Theorem and the animation (which you can find here on KZbin) was done by Robinsdraw. It features prinxiety and logicality, it’s a slow burn and it’s a very fun time! I’ve read the whole thing, do recommend.

[@someidiotoninternet3446]

You mentioning sancest made me realize that it was DEFENETLY my introduction to selcest as a young girl... and i fear it changed me forever because selfcest is SO fun to me xD In both a silly goofy no brain way but also in a weirdly visseral and meaphorical way... Meeting a version of yourself that caused harm to others, someone you dont want to ever ever be anymore... Or in a manifastation of your own self hatred... Make it weird and tragic and uncomfortable!!! But also funny and for the goofs. Very fun video, thanks for making this xD!!!

[@21aanyamathur44]

this takes loving yourself to another level

[@anatthema4687]

i had known what selfcest was for quite some time (was in the undertale fandom back in the day) but i’d never really understood the appeal and thought it was kinda weird until i accidentally stumbled in to doing it myself with some OCs. to make a long story short i ended up creating two versions of an OC to ship them with another friend’s character that i couldn’t do in canon, but due to the events of the DnD game they were from, they ended up meeting said other character anyways. I had then realized that made for an incredible poly ship, having a poly relationship where two alternate universe versions of the same character dated each others’ partners they met before the universes converged, and so it just ended up naturally falling into place that the two versions of the character would end up dating each other as well and by accidentally exploring that, i had realized this character, who has a lot of self-worth issues, would genuinely find a lot of comfort and confidence upon dating an alternate universe version of themselves, and so it became extremely important to these characters’ arcs that they were dating themselves. and upon realizing that interesting character potential i started to really GET why people like selfcest. i now have a selfcest ship in a fandom as well and the reason i like said ship is for a lot of the same reasons i do with my OCs!

[@fluxchchord]

as a selfcest enjoyer, this is a video i really needed 😭🙏

[@dragiani7603]

Astro dandy's world spotted

[@Zoaria_the_Anomaly]

@@dragiani7603 Two teapot spotted

[@dragiani7603]

@@Zoaria_the_Anomaly hehehehehhehehehe

[@fluxchchord]

@@Jenniferr_00000 what ???

[@fluxchchord]

@@Jenniferr_00000 nah i'm good 😭😭‼️ but thanks for the concern i suppose

[@bryannae9015]

Off topic: That is literally the cutest outfit I'e seen you in a video!! It's giving a cool single aunt who talks shit about everyone.

[@arsonzartz]

this brings back memories of when we would make weddings for characters we ship together in an owl house rp game, and belos was always there, and belos was always being romantic WITH HIMSELF. we legit shipped belos with himself just because he has absolutely no chance at getting ANYONE

[@jaydenklaus]

Oh god, this comment reminded me of a fanfic I read where Luz writes a story shipping Belos and Phillip without knowing they are the same person. edit: it's lust and slander.

[@liu1806]

​@@jaydenklaus PLZ give me the fic name. I am curious as hec and want to read it

[@jaydenklaus]

@@liu1806 It's on AO3 and called Lust and Slander by Mizuuma.

[@merobiba413]

@@jaydenklaus lmaooo I NEED to read this fic. what's it called?

[@arsonzartz]

@@jaydenklaus HELP WHATTT THATS SO FREAKING FUNNY

[@RyuuNoGin]

Danny Phantom does this too with Pitch Pearl, though I've definitely seen it flip flop between actual selfcest (the ep where he splits himself in two gave people ALOT to run with) and the YuGiOh situation.

[@Bagel__Mage]

"25 seconds ago" i am firmly past the point of no return.

[@kespblaze8560]

Same dude

[@yYSilverFoxYy]

Scaramouche x Wanderer mentioned, but not the way bigger Dottorecest..? Dottore is actually capable of selfcest in canon, he has different selves at different ages that can interact, and the fandom also has plenty of fanmade Dottore segments as well.

[@yYSilverFoxYy]

@@Jenniferr_00000 I said he’s *capable* of it in canon, not that he necessarily does it. Scaramouche could physically not interact with his other selves. This is true for most selfcest ships. Dottore is an interesting exception. But if you react so strongly to the idea of Dottorecest, why click on a video about selfcest..?

[@Jenniferr_00000]

@@yYSilverFoxYy curious about commentz

[@Caterfree10]

Selfcest is the best, put yourself to the test. BD But also, I do wish people who don’t like it would just admit it’s a squick rather than make up reasons to hate it. It’s okay for something to just be a squick! It’s okay for something to just not gel with you! Pleasssssse I’m so tired in modern fandom. The only reason I’m still here is the stellar fanart and killer fanfic okay. 😭

[@--CHARLIE--]

Fr people keep using the logic that squick = bad, like that's the same rational behind a lot of queerphobia and such. It's more ethical and more honest to just say you don't like it instead of inventing stupid reasons why its bad after you've decided that it is.

[@MeemahSN]

@@--CHARLIE-- People just cannot own their dislikes, huh?

[@thefluffygenius4857]

I learned a new word "squick" thx 👍

[@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard]

i dont know if modern fandom is accurate trying to hustify your own squicks as actualy having a moral or divine or logical reason behind it is something that has been done forever tbh fandom spaces just tend to make it a bit clearer to see than other historical situations

[@vivipettiss5832]

​@@--CHARLIE--IKR I sdd this same logic with hetero ship enjoyers. Like, you can only like hetero ships. It's fine, nobody's going to arrest you. But it annoys me when they use queerphobic ideas to justify themself ('I'm allowed to only ship hetero, I'm doing it because I follow a homophobic religion') ('yeah, well, the gays have TAKEN OVER fandom, I'm allowed to have my hetero!') ('I'm just shipping the only NATURAL ships!') Just say you don't get off on two people of the same sex doing it. It's fine. Nobody is persecuting you.

[@cocoacos78]

As someone who’s always felt the ick at the “cest” part, I will now be adopting the term dopplebanger; thanks Coley!

[@name_so_cool]

As someone who fell into the undertale AU fandom all the way back in 2017 Im VERY excited for this one

[@Void_person0]

Undertale aus have had a grip on me since 2018 lmao

[@VeryUncreative]

samee

[@jaxtheoverlord6959]

as someone in the sanders sides fandom, I laughed loud seeing the video title...it´s technically like 90 smth percent of ships in there edit: got jumpscared at the actual mention of the show in here omg

[@sunflower-ve6vy]

the way i jumped on that title notification 😭

[@conlon4332]

I would have, but I had to watch Clint's video on whether Turkeys make the best pet first.

[@frogan4]

8:23 i’m now realising sander sides is selfcest

[@azucair]

Oh my god the UTAUs bring back memories, it's so funny thinking how outsiders see the fandom

[@paradoxtatorstudios9681]

I'm even in the UT fandom and I'm still baffled by the AUs lmao. My first ever reaction to seeing a bunch of different usernames in one server, all being Sans with an edgy prefix attached, was akin to an animation I saw where the original sans progressively meets all his alternates and screams in confusion. But they've grown on me, especially since a lot of friends like 'em. They're chaotic, endearing goofballs 😂

[@user-rizzyshirokayano-009]

i got so confused thinking ur talking abt the UTAU vocal synths until i realized ur talking abt the sans aus

[@Unoriginal_SpamtonFan]

Seeing Undertale Aus be shortened to "utau" is so funny as someone learning Japanese because my mind immediately autocorrected it as "sing" lmao

[@gamesarefun9380]

@@user-rizzyshirokayano-009 SAME I was thinking "woah a new concept"

[@vivipettiss5832]

"Huh, well I guess Kaito x Akaito was a thing in Vocaloid, maybe there was something similar in UTAU" "Ohhhhhh. UT AUs."

[@shroomy1938]

fun fact: the chinese fandom term for selfcest is the name for the flower "Narcissus" in chinese

[@Famously5518]

that is so fitting

[@urnervousgf]

i was honestly surprised at how polarizing selfcest is in fandom culture, some people just need to practice whimsy

[@KishangiKure]

"what is selfcest?" the best shipping trope

[@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa]

real!!!!!

[@KishangiKure]

@@Jenniferr_00000 for me yes, different opinions exist

[@KishangiKure]

@JenniferrSalamalekoSalamaleko its okay have a reat day /gen

[@Famously5518]

the best? eh the funniest? absolutely

[@KishangiKure]

@@Famously5518 fair enough

[@delrodriguez9422]

I do like selfcest mainly because I think it's funny but I do prefer it when it's to versions of the same character that are different personality wise or even slightly physically like sans with their different aus or evil Onceler with normal Onceler

[@--CHARLIE--]

Or even just the real one and the one that is the same but is the clone and gets (likely negative) character development over being "just a copy" (that probably makes them a bit more edgy and unhinged and self-loathing than the original) I've not seen that used in a ship, but I love the idea. Not necessarily even with an existing clone either, one made for such a ship specifically also works. I don't know why I'm so hyperfixated on that scenario specifically but it could be really good. (And yes, I am aware I'm just describing Peter Parker and Ben Reilly but with a romantic dynamic instead of a sibling dynamic. What of it? Lol.)

[@merobiba413]

Agreed, especially since I generally prefer ships with opposing color schemes/aesthetics/personalities, even when shipping different characters. It's just more interesting that way imo

[@Scxrlet-P-Aftxn]

1:11 Dopplebanger is now my favorite word ever

[@shroommsssss]

I just thinks it’s funny asf ngl. I kinda love it, it has great angst potential and the ultimate form of self-love

[@amarimochi]

I personally think selfcest is really funny, like one of my vtuber oshis has multiple versions of himself and they get shipped around. The only time I do get a problem with it is when the "clones" or whatever are treated like siblings in canon. Its spoilers so i wont say the media but in something i love, its revealed one of the mcs has a clone but they actually grew up together (its complicated) before being split apart when they were kids and everyone, including the clones themselves, refer to them as sisters. Personally i think once the other self gets refered to in a familial sense it incest to me, not selfcest.

[@elobservadorobservante1605]

Narcissus was the OG selfcest EDIT: This blew up so...BAN ABORTION

[@BerriBerriLunchbox]

Narcissus making kissy faces to his mirror reflection in the pond on a daily basis

[@thekaticorn99]

i was just about to make this comment

[@AnIdotHyperfixator]

He fr was a simp for himself

[@callmesummon]

The ULTIMATE selfcest

[@boomgirlbucko]

The story of Narcissus pisses me off. Not because of him, but because of the people around him. He was completely satisfied living a life without love, and they punished him for not saying yes to people wanting to date him. It's so stupid. Like, is it really "prideful" to just _not_ be interested in anyone?

[@777goodgirl]

I feel like Sans Undertale is an outlier and should not be counted. The lore behind the AUs does not stop at "oh there are alternate universes" the 4th wall broke so hard the 5th wall came crashing down. We have a Doodle sphere, a void, an anti-void, and an Omega timeline. I'd like to see another fandom try to come close to the "AUs" Undertale has lol (tone: light hearted fun)

[@Haunted_Plush]

SELFCEST IS MY FAVORITE THING EVER THATS WHAT IT IS!!!! CLONES OR YOU FROM THE FUTURE OR ANOTHER TIMELINE I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT

[@RosespannerDirector]

My favourite example of selfcest is from this game called Limbus compnay. In the game there is this character Yi Sang, and in his story we learn that he invented a device that allowed you to see parralel world version of yourself, called 'the mirror', and in the mirror he saw an ideal version of himself called Sang Yi. Throughout the flashbacks we see Yi Sang suffer doing a job that he does not love, but he doesn't realise that, in his eyes he is fine with doing whatever. But Sang Yi disagrees. He knows that Yi Sang wants to be ideal just like him(Sang Yi), but he(Yi Sang) thinks of it as a silly dream that he should ignore, because he could never become ideal. In the end Yi Sang is left with two choices: keep doing the job that he has no passion for, or spread his wings and reach for (what he believes to be) the unreachable. Obviously he quits and at first he feels anxious. Right now he gave away everything he had left and is left with nothing. It is a scary to start something new and right now Yi Sang has basically started a new life. However, it is exactly this decsion that allowed him to meet the rest of the crew and while he may not be as ideal as Sang Yi, now he is certain that that silly dream of his, might soon become reality. Also, the way he looks at Sang Yi in the mirror is literraly the gayest thing in the game. Gayer that the characters based on Moby Dick, which is just SUPER gay. 10/10 Self love at its finest

[@sillygirl5040]

Wowie I'm early. A fandom classic, love it! Personally I really enjoy selfcest and actively seek out selfcest pairings if a fandom has them.

[@reshramlove1547]

12:29 fun fact, in a spin off(?) of Yugioh, Yugioh Arc-V, there are in fact doppelgängers. Yuya, Yuto, Yuri, and Yuto are the same person and Yuzu, Serena, Rin, and Ruri are the same person. So there is technically an option to selfship in the yugioh franchise 🙃

[@im-here-homie]

Arc v mention in this comment section is so awesome I love you so much

[@DemPaws]

This video has opened my eyes to selfcest and I am now shipping Charlie with her old design and I could not be happier. Thank you ❤️ (now I just gotta avoid haters)

[@tsifirakiehl4250]

Good thing most sites come with a block button.

[@DemPaws]

Oop lmao

[@Chloesongbird803]

As a obsessive Undertale AU fangirl, I can say with confidence that I LOVE seeing where stories can go with Sanscest, where the romantic relations come from, how they react to figuring out that they actually are liking a different version of essentially themselves, seeing the drama that ensuse, ect. I used to see the argument for Clone Wars and when the clones were being shipped with each other, then people would get mad and be saying the stuff of where 'they're basically the same person!' And I'm just over here going 'No they're not XD' I'm glad you were able to explain the difference between the two, and do it in a way that I can use to explain to my friends if I ever need to haha Oh my gosh this was a lot longer than I meant it to be, aaaaa! Thank you for yet another amazing video, Coley!!!^^

[@passedthevibe-check141]

I'm having Undertale AU flashbacks... I used to write those oneshots! 😭 But it's a really big debate in the Clone Wars fandom. People are ALWAYS arguing about shipping the vode and the ethics of it.

[@meadow744]

i was kind of hoping she would talk about clonecest in star wars 😭 always an interesting debate

[@auminiii]

I was not expecting to see my art featured in a yt video omg LMAO, especially one about SELFCEST of all things ty for crediting me!!! I always enjoyed watching ur content when i was younger 💛💛💛

[@garr9988]

Certainly someone's written Y/N x Y/N selfcest, no? Now I'm intrigued...

[@hammywoods]

Oh it's definitely had to happen before, especially if the yn is badass readers will be like "yn x reader when?" 😭

[@frankieloinandgroin]

Y/N x Y/N by Lomoner on ao3. I did this exact google search a while ago I got you. It is certainly…a read.

[@chilblaingrace]

@@hammywoods ohhhh i remember seeing that plenty back when reading fics with a cool y/n on wattpad as a tween lol

[@twotruckslyrics]

i remember seeing this kinda? was reading an x reader and ppl started shipping

[@M4t_P4tGT]

That’s crazy lmaoo

[@Kuroba097]

You caught me with that Kustard image in the thumbnail. Immediately knew i needed to watch this. My younger self wouldve started screaming

[@tele7angelist]

[0:25] unrelated to the video at all but. why did my first exposure to this image have to be analog horror. now i can't stop thinking "haha it's the funny dog from that analog horror video" when i know that's not where it came from

[@Garyberries14]

ME MENTIONED 0:18

[@dansviciousdogs]

i was confused till i looked at your user 😭😭

[@starcupcake]

In Homestuck there is canon selfcest pairing (Karkat with his past/future versions) specifically in blackrom or kismetitude since he often was writing to himself from other point in timeline but also said that "if I hate myself so much why don't I hate marry myself" (blackrom or kismetitude being one type of troll romantic relationships focused on hating the other person but still finding them attractive)

[@wanderinglimeblood]

That's _exactly_ who I thought of when I saw the video pop up in my feed lol. That and him imagining Jade kissing her alternate self, only to quickly wave that thought bubble away lol. It's too late, Karkat... we know exactly what you were thinking 😏

[@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa]

yeah!!! (except _~aaaaactually~_ its _jade ♧_ past!karkat / future!karkat. as an auspisticism)

[@starcupcake]

@@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa not necessarily since Karkat had interactions with himself while on meteor (or the part about hate marrying was in dream bubbles) where she couldn't austipice for them

[@moykurs]

was literally just thinking that

[@veleniia2381]

Omg exactly!

[@talluna8619]

selfcest is such a guilty pleasure of mine tbh esp when there exists two versions of the same character within a piece of media bc of cloning or time travel shenanigans (looks at jayvik arcane)

[@cloudykid7278]

Why do I feel like Coley'd be the type of person to have covered this already and it's honestly kinda shocking that she hasn't yet and only now is 😭

[@NightItselfSince0000]

Onceler: **causes mass deforestation and the end of all wildlife** Fans: OMG HE'S SO DADDY FR-

[@zydzed]

also in doctor who master selfcest (or more specifically master/missy) is mentioned in canon

[@RedRöter2714]

Im autoromantic. In a purely romantic way (like an autosexual would in a sexual way) I love myself and I am dating myself. I dont think selfshipping/selfcest is problematic in anyway, in a non reproductive aspect (not to be confused with sexual aspect) that is. Personally I love to see it, be it in a "met my clone haha" or "Im my own lover, even tho I only exist" or other ways. It opens up many possabilitys to explore with a character, especially if said character is never meeting another self. Edit bc I think I should mention it: I think its also nice to selfship since it normalizes us fellow autoromantics/sexuals. Im very much in the closet abt my identy while beeing open abt beeing aroace. Simply bc I dont think thered be a single person (friends aside) who wouldnt ridicule me (Im experiencing enough hate and bullying from beeing openly aroace and sex repulsed).

[@Artemis_Kit810]

8:32 when I first watched/read fan stuff of Sander Sides ships, I genuinely thought they were all different people 😅

[@Observer_Decay]

Nope, just one guy sitting in his living room and having an existential breakdown

[@FanTDM2003]

Tbf alot of SS AUs they are depicted as separate beings

[@Fictionalcharactersimp145]

Thank you SO MUCH for this Coley. I needed to understand the debate and hear someone else's thoughts.

[@lumiose0]

One ship I’m not surprised but still am surprised you didn’t mention is the Modulecest from Project Diva Basically, in Project Diva, you get to pick out costumes aka, modules for the Crypton Future Media Vocaloids (Hatsune Miku, Kagamine Rin & Len, Megurine Luka, Meiko & Kaito) and people shipped them with each other, even with modules for the same Vocaloid Easily the biggest one out of the Modulecest was Lencest aka the Len modules with popular ships like Punkish x Blue Moon, Blue Moon x Aitetsu, Strange Dark x Starmine, Trickster x Senbu, etc and save to say…I have some too (Lance x Hansel my beloved)

[@tourmelion9221]

4:49 this is like an ancient version of the undertale fandom, history really does repeat itself

[@AilMilk]

9:40 SCARACEST MENTIONED 🗣️🔥🔥

[@siphona_will_eat_you]

LETS GOOOO

[@THATBrokeAroSpecWallet]

LETS GO I LOVE ME SOME WEIRD ASS PUPPET STUFF

[@N0k4hara]

@@THATBrokeAroSpecWalletLMAO

[@vivipettiss5832]

NO KABUNKIMONO???? NO KABUKIMONO X SCARA IMAGES IN THE VIDEO???

[@AilMilk]

@@vivipettiss5832kinda upset about that he wasn’t mentioned too but my expectations were low on Scara/Wanderer to even appear on this video since EN side of the fandom don’t ever mention him in their videos related to topics that can include him, so like😭💀

[@evgeniyav4686]

Thank you for another wonderful video! You always explain fandom things in such a thorough, fun and non-judgemental way, it's very heartening 💜

[@captainH023]

Personally I am kinda obsessed with the brand of selfcest that is the older self with the younger self

[@lowpolyzoe]

Add in a time travel element and you're golden

[@jademonass2954]

im someone that was very much in the undertale AU fandom in its peak, and i think non fandom peeps would not believe how many AUS someone can memorize its like pokemon, i have like 200+ sans versions knowledge floating around in my brain

[@dysfallacyyt]

same. i like fell, fresh, horror and dust most

[@saturnyume]

same bro 😭😭

[@inkedoutsans]

I genuinely celebrate everytime Undertale (my father fandom, the one that raised me in middle school) comes uo

[@amongthestars7004]

I feel like I’ve been summoned, kept getting back to utau because of my fav ship, Afterdeath, pls the utau selfcest ship are actually very good when you’re so far into the rabbit hole and view them at separate people. Honestly, I like to see them like how spiderverse is with the same identity but different person, yk considering some of their stories are distinct from each other and almost as if they were different person with only having the same name and same group of people in their lives

[@mooniegoodie]

3:00 Coley better be wearing a cowboy hat and eyepatch by 2029

[@lazybagofbones]

Sanscest is DEEEEEEP. Deeper than it looks. the needle cookie incident

[@fandomjazzy5556]

The ship crossmare (a ship between cross sans and nightmare sans) is actually how i discovered fanfiction somewhere around when i was 16 or 15 maybe younger can't really rememeber my exact age because of my Autism and ADHD when i discovered fanfiction it immediately started a hyperfixtion with fanfiction and sans aus that spiraled out of control oh boy that was one heck of ride it even got to the point I got grounded when my parents found out how spicy the things i had been reading it was so bad i wasn't able to read fanfiction again untill i turned 18 years old lol