What is Tawassul & Istighatha in Islam - Shaykh Hamza Yusuf

We are looking at expanding the channel - Support us now / islamreward We are looking at expanding the channel - Support us now / islamreward Tawassul to Almighty Allah that He accepts the Du'aa due to one having performed a certain good deed is permissible and unanimously accepted. Shaykh Hamza Yusuf speaks about this in Islam and if it is permissible.

[@yusuffmubarak2726]

I can't stop smiling in happiness each time I watch this clip. Shaykh is a guru in simplifying a controversial mas'alah. Tawassul is jaiz. Shaykh just explained that in the simplest form ever. Jazakumullahu khayran

[@ilyasdahi7311]

So you r agree with him?

[@mrkks123]

You are lost

[@yusuffmubarak2726]

​@@mrkks123You will be saved bi idhnillaah

[@yusuffmubarak2726]

​@@ilyasdahi7311so, are you suggesting that I should disagree with the sound Prophetic hadith of Uthman bn Hunayf and come down to agree with Shaykh Ibn Taymiyah Al-Harrani ?

[@tahirshika]

One of the best explanations of this issue. He even said its permissible not obligatory. Peace be upon you Sheikh Hamza Yusuf.

[@iMan-610]

When Prophet a.s passed away,Sahabas stopped asking Prophet a.s to pray for rain. Prophet a.s used to stop muslims for a period to visit graves because arabs used to ask people in graves

[@farryqaadir8812]

MashAllah such a simple explanation & the Shaykh hit the nail on the head. Salafis are totally misguided ppl they will NEVER accept the Sahih hadith of Hazrat Uthman Ibn Hunayf. The Ulama say rejecting a Sahih hadith is equivalent to rejecting an Ayat of the Quran but the judgment is Gumrahi (&not kufr}, he's also a faasiq & faajir may Allah protect Ahle Sunnah from these ppl & not following our pious Ulama.

[@sydneydawah5400]

Can I have the Hadith reference please

[@farryqaadir8812]

@____ I refer to Sunni Ulama who protected the true Ahle Sunnah creed from Zionist-supporting Wahhabis who have done great damage to our Deen . You're calling me ignorant on technicalities (lol) is the reality of your character & general frustration of going nowhere in your Deen. InshaAllah Allah softens your heart.

[@sydneydawah5400]

@____ ☹️☹️☹️ just wanted the references to show a friend 🤷

[@sydneydawah5400]

@____ quick to assume and you call your self a follower of Sufism . You got a longgg way to clean that Heart “Mate” . Go learn the life’s of imam Ghazali and Shiehk Abdul Qadir Jilani. And learn the level of Nafs. ✌🏻 out

[@Husayn0318]

@@sydneydawah5400 It was reported by Imam Tabrani in his Mujm ul kabir authenticated by the likes of Imam Bayhaqi and Imam Ibn Hajr al haythami as well as numerous other scholars.

[@ferone2ashy]

I am most impressed by how still the audience was throughout the whole lecture and how the shaykh managed to keep his arm up the whole time. Some upper body strength from the shaykh. I was especially amazed by how he could speak without moving his mouth, an amazing feat of ventriloquism.

[@eyessmile6173]

Lol

[@dontoni8041]

Resemblance of christianity. First they invoke the prophet. Next they celebrate his birrthday. Where is it headin. Allah has warned us about innovation. Many stories in the quran such as: Long before the arrival of Prophet Nuh, peace be upon him, people used to practice Tawheed. They worshipped none but Allah as taught by Prophet Adam, peace be upon him. Among them were some righteous men, who were well-known for their piety and devotion. When these righteous men died, Shaitaan came to the people and inspired them to make statues of them, bearing their names. The intention was to remember their devotion to Allah and to encourage people to be more like them. People agreed to this seemingly noble idea. They placed the statues where those righteous people used to frequently meet. But they did not worship them. However, years later, after that generation died, people slowly forgot the purpose of those statues. Shaitaan now came to their descendants and told them that their predecessors used to worship these statues for rain and other blessings. Due to a lack of knowledge, they were fooled by Shaitaan into worshiping the idols, which then their descendants followed as well.

[@albaraaalbouaini2828]

Yes they worshipped them. Give me proof they didn't worship them. I'll give you proof they did worship them

[@TheMercifulAndJust]

Maybe for that person who is weak in their aqeedah they'd conflate the two as the same. This is honestly simply not true to reality. Investigate and correct and strengthen your grounds in aqeedah (science of belief) aka ilm-el-Kalam

[@Sheen023]

Wahhabiya is resemblance of literalist extremist Christian schools. Moreover, it broke away from majority consensus and tradition. And now they are literally busy planning the digging out of Beloved raudha Shareef!!! A'uzubillah!!

[@Sheen023]

Wow.. what's the relevance of your opinion over the traditional scholarly consensus?

[@londonitv902]

allah help pseudo salafi/wahabis (ahle bidah) to the right path.

[@Sheen023]

Aameen

[@geeljire9247]

Ameen

[@iMan-610]

Right path is Tawheed

[@morrisallensheriff5241]

As much as I respect him and take a lot from him, I'll disagree on this matter. There are tons of Ahadith the prophet prohibited him being an intermediary between Allah and His slaves. But as he said, it's a matter of dispute, and that's true, but also, he said before Ibn Tymiyyah no one had that opinion, is completely wrong, it makes me look a little down on his research surrounding this issue. In fact Ibn Masud condemned this act very strongly, Umar Ibn khatab over and over stop people from doing such. And saying Tawasul isn't an Aqeedah question but fiqh, wow, it's both

[@jamalibnrasit5303]

You qualify for intercession by visiting the Prophet SAW anyway theres no need to ask. He is shown your deeds but doesnt directly hear you as Allah said in the Qur’an you dont make them hear. Im sure the Prophet SAW wouldnt want people calling on him and not Allah after Hes left the worldly life. Salams are fine.

[@peaceloving1626]

Salaam,dear Shaykh❤❤❤

[@ahamedkc]

I like Sheik Hamza Yusuf Hanson❤

[@imrankhan-pl8vg]

SubhanAllah

[@mubshirzano5001]

Islam not about muslim its about world... There is negative part with both sunni and wahabi... I think... The istigasa not permitted cuz of it creat doubt in da'wa

[@noufalbinzainudheen5633]

Dear brothers, in my native please their is a holy grave of an awliya and he is a sayyid, his name is sayyid aboobakkar valiyullah(q:s). Whenever i felt any worries or fear of enemies i will go to his grave and i tell all the problems to him, then i ask him to pray for me and find a solution. Vallahi brothers my problem will get solved and my heart become so peaceful. I know that they are in a higher position & they are very closer to Allah. So brothers & sisters of this ummah don't miss this chance and don't get fooled by vahabi or salafi ideologies. 😊

[@FabledServant]

Shirk, only ask Allah.

[@zebunnessa3651]

@@FabledServant what? You ask your mother or a shopkeeper something, that is shirk..no?

[@FabledServant]

@@zebunnessa3651 there’s a difference between asking the living, who are present and have the ability and doing the opposite.

[@FabledServant]

@@zebunnessa3651 Fatir 35:22 وَمَا يَسۡتَوِى ٱلۡأَحۡيَآءُ وَلَا ٱلۡأَمۡوَٰتُۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُسۡمِعُ مَن يَشَآءُۖ وَمَآ أَنتَ بِمُسۡمِعٍ مَّن فِى ٱلۡقُبُورِ And not equal are the living and the dead. Indeed, Allāh causes to hear whom He wills, but you cannot make hear those in the graves.

[@mdkhan3928]

...maybe that opinion didn't exist because no one bothered doing it during the time of the Salaf. It was being widely practiced by the 7th century & hence scholars had to condemn it then.🤷🏿‍♀️🤔

[@mdkhan3928]

@@khnz3989 There is no valid difference of opinion on something being Kufr or Shirk Akbar for those who are making Takfeer over it.🤷🏿‍♀️😇

[@mdkhan3928]

@@khnz3989 Ibn Taymiah had the guts. End of.🤷🏿‍♀️😇

[@Sorel366]

Exactly. Refutations on different matters appeared as innovations started being practiced.

[@qasimabdihassan5297]

Salam alaykom wa rahmatolahi wa barakatoho! Honestly this is difficult for me to understand. Some shaykhs says its allowed, other says its not. What is the correct answer? I try doing research but gets differents answers. JazzakAllahu khayran may Allah subhana wa ta ala` guide us

[@mdkhan3928]

...you can make someone a deity by giving them the attributes of an illah/God without calling them your God...

[@truthphilic]

All the attributes of Ilah are based on him being independent.

[@mdkhan3928]

@@truthphilic Yes I agree.🤷🏿‍♂️

[@mdkhan3928]

Because he was alive on the earth & not in his grave...🤷🏿‍♀️😇🤔

[@ghulamqadiri638]

Who u referring to

[@mdkhan3928]

@@ghulamqadiri638 The Prophet Muhammed Alehyhisalaam.🤷🏿‍♀️

[@ghulamqadiri638]

@@mdkhan3928 the prophet Muhammad ﷺ is alive in his grave, if the martyrs are then imagine the rank of the prophet ﷺ

[@mdkhan3928]

@@ghulamqadiri638 Yes but that life is the life of the "Afterlife" (or Barzakh as we call it).Technically when we die⚰️, we are still alive in the Barzakh because we have our sensory receptors still working like feeling pain etc. The issue here is though, just like when the Meccan Mushriks used to ask their Idols😈 for things only Allah could secure, asking the Prophet Alehyhisalaam for those things or martyrs etc. is similar & equally futile.🤷🏿‍♀️ Even the Waseelah of Muhammed Salullahu alehyhee wasalam, asked for after Adhaan, is sought for from Allah. Meaning it is Allah who will grant it to him Alehyhisalaam & Allah will let it be used on some but not others. The issue is some scholars, & IMO rightly so, have made an analogy of what some people do by making dua to/asking the deceased ⚰️ for Divinely sought/SUPERNATURAL things (i.e only things that Allah could secure) like ability to have kids, to have a successful business, to maintain good health etc., to what the Meccan Mushriks used to do with their idols.😈Just because certain people who die are regarded as alive (due to it being in Barzakh), that being alive is not relevant to being helpful to us & our needs as would be the case if they were alive in this worldly life. Hence we don't have CLEAR CUT narrations about this practice of making dua/asking help of/Istighaata to the Dead⚰️ (of this world). So in conclusion I believe this action is Shirk 👿🔥🔥🔥, as far as I am concerned.🤷🏿‍♀️

[@ghulamqadiri638]

@@mdkhan3928 Seeking help from the Prophets and Friends of Allah ● Proofs from the Qur'an ‎1- إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا الَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ الزَّكَاةَ وَهُمْ رَاكِعُونَ "Indeed your friends (protectors) are only Allah and His Messenger and the believers who establish the prayer and pay the charity, and are bowed down before Allah." 《Al-Mā'idah: 55》 ‎2- فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ مَوْلَاهُ وَجِبْرِيلُ وَصَالِحُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۖ وَالْمَلَائِكَةُ بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ ظَهِيرٌ "Then indeed Allah is his protector and Jibrīl and the virtuous believers; and in addition the angels are also his protectors." 《al-Tahrīm: 4》 ‎3- فَلَمَّا أَحَسَّ عِيسَىٰ مِنْهُمُ الْكُفْرَ قَالَ مَنْ أَنصَارِي إِلَى اللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ الْحَوَارِيُّونَ نَحْنُ أَنصَارُ اللَّهِ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَاشْهَدْ بِأَنَّا مُسْلِمُونَ "So when Īsā sensed their disbelief he said, 'Who will be my helpers towards (the cause of) Allāh?' The disciples said, 'We are the helpers of Allah's religion; we believe in Allah, and you best witness that we are Muslims.'" 《Āl 'Imrān: 52》 ● Proofs from the Prophetic Traditions (Hadīth) 1. The Prophet ﷺ said to Rabi'ah ibn Ka'b al-Aslamī: "Ask of me anything." Rabī'ah said, "I ask for your companionship in Jannah." The Prophet ﷺ said, "Do you have any other request?" He replied, "Just this." The Prophet ﷺ then said, "Then, in that case, assist me for your sake by performing much prostration to Allah." 《Sahih Muslim》 2. The Prophet ﷺ said, "...I am Qāsim (the distributor), and Allah bestows." 《Sahih al-Bukhārī》 3. "Allah has placed angels on earth - other than the (two) record keepers - who keep an account (even) of the leaves that fall on the ground. Therefore, if one of you is crippled in a deserted land and no one is in sight, let him cry out: 'Help me O Servants of Allah!" 《Musnad al-Bazzār》 4. Maymūna (the blessed wife of the Prophet ﷺ) narrates: The Messenger of Allah ﷺ was resting at my house one night and he ﷺ awoke to perform ablution and pray. I heard him say during his ablution: "Labbayk, labbayk, labbayk" - three times - then: "nuşirta nuşirta nuşirta" three times. When he ﷺ came out, I asked him, "Messenger of Allah, I heard you say, during your ablution, 'In your service!' three times, and 'To your defence!' three times, as if you were addressing someone. Was there someone with you?" He ﷺ replied: "This was the poetry champion (rājiz) of the Banū Ka'b - one of the sub-tribes of the Khuzā'a - "invoking my aid (yastaşrikhunī) and asserting that the Quraysh has helped the Banū Bakr against them." 《al-Tabarānī in al-Mu'jam al-Saghīr》 ●Proofs from the Works of Classical Scholars 1. Shaykh Abd al-Haqq al-Dihlawī writes under the aforementioned first hadīth: The meaning of the Prophet ﷺ saying 'Ask' and not restricting it to something specific proves that the dispostion of all blessings is in the hands of the Prophet ﷺ and he can grant whomsoever whatsoever he wishes through the munificence of Allah, 'Because the world and the hereafter are his generosity and the knowledge of Lawh (Tablet) and (Pen) are part of his knowledge' (al-Burdah of Imam al-Busayri). If you are in need of anything relating to the world or the hereafter then come to the Prophet ﷺ and have your needs fulfilled. 《Ashī'at al-Lam'āt》 2. Imam Mullah 'Alī Qārī writes under the same hadīth: The Prophet ﷺ saying 'Ask' proves that Allah has granted him ﷺ the authority to grant anything from the treasures of Allah." 《al-Mirqāt Sharh al-Mishkāt》 3. Imām Shams al-Dīn al-Ramlī writes: Istighātha (seeking aid) with the Prophets and Messengers, the Awliyā, the 'Ulamā and the righteous is permitted. The Messengers, Prophets and the Awliyā have (the ability to) assist after their death because the miracles of the Prophets and Awliyā are not severed following their death. As for the Prophets, then they are alive in their graves praying and doing Hajj as it has come in the reports. So assistance from them will be a miracle on their behalf; and the martyrs are also alive... 《Fatāwa al-Ramlī》 4. Imām al-Subkī writes: It should be known that Tawassul and intercession through the Prophet ﷺ in the court of Allah is not only permissible, rather recommended." 《Shifā al-Siqām》 ● The Beliefs of the Ahl al-Sunnah: • It is permissible to ask for help from the Prophets and the Awliyā. • They help people by the power granted to them by Allah. •No one can help anyone without the permission and leave of Allah. • To believe that someone can help without the Will of Allah, or without Allah granting them the power, is kufr.

[@W67w]

Tawassul is dua to Allah by the station of the Prophet. This is permissible according to some great scholars. Calling upon the Prophet or any other dead righteous person is forbidden and a doorway to shirk. Some say it is Shirk so why would people risk their hereafter by doing it.

[@mohamadkhateeb402]

@Alpha Dog I also have concerns as to what type of tawassul is permissible exactly. Because obviously tawassul can be shirk if it’s done in certain ways. That is why I wish Hamza Yusuf would give an example of what he means by tawassul

[@mohamadkhateeb402]

@Alpha Dog I think it’s obvious from hadith literature and Quran and undeniable that the prophets can hear and see the believers as they are not dead. But I don’t think it’s right to ask them for anything except to ask them to ask Allah to forgive the Muslims. I’ve never felt I was committing shirk by doing this and even before I ever heard the word tawassul, it was a common thing growing up in my masjid to make dua and ask the Rasul to use his status with Allah to help seek his forgiveness

[@mohamadkhateeb402]

@Alpha Dog But I don’t think I would ever do tawassul as in asking the prophet for something in this life. Or sometimes I may ask the angels to pass a message on to the Rasul, without asking him anything. Just sending a message

[@XxXTeeHee13XxX]

@Alpha Dog saying ya Muhammad is a form of shirk. when it says its permissible to make dua by the position of the prophet pbuh, its referring to matters such as recycling his duas (that he made during his lifetime). For Example lets say the prophet pbuh made dua during his lifetime for rainfall- continuing from there, if i were to be in a position where i want to make dua for rain, and i wanted to make dua according to the permissible form of tawasul i would say "ya Allah, by the dua in which your messenger made..." so on and so forth. I would not say "ya muhammed" because that would be calling upon the prophet pbuh to help, and as muslims we call upon no other than allah. i hope this helps!

[@Husayn0318]

Only the Deobandis and their ilk have raised this objection over istighatha . The rest of Ahlus Sunnah are free from their innovation.

[@faridahmad2013]

The way he's explaining this it appears he's an extremist ! Sahaba didn't do this.. It was for Uthman bin hanif only.. He's mixing things with penicillin and this is not a befitting joke.. Moreover, this is an issue of Aqeedah primarily

[@mdkhan3928]

...so then is making dua to Abdul Qaadir Jillaani eg. Oh Abdul Qaadir Jillani give me children not Istighatha to the dead & Shirk? Who regards him as a God?🤔

[@mdkhan3928]

@@khnz3989 We are not told to ask anything from those who have passed onto the afterlife.⚰️🤷🏿‍♀️ We are asked to ask Allah for all our requests even if we have to ask those who are still in this life & available to us for that thing specifically e.g. Doctors etc. ...IYYA KANABOODOO WA IYAKANASTA'EEN! Simplz.💓☝️😇

[@geeljire9247]

You cant make du'ah to Abdul-Qadir Jilani, but you can ask him to make du'ah for you.

[@mdkhan3928]

@@geeljire9247 Asking him to make dua for you is just plain stupidity 🥴, because of the assumption is he alive & able to make dua for you...but technically not SHIRK, whereas dua to him directly is SHIRK.

[@mamadoufarissou7312]

@@mdkhan3928 the only stupid here is you, asking saliheen and martyrs and prophets to make duaa in their grave is islamically sound, because they are alive in their grave and they do prayers by the way, so the jokes on you.

[@G_1allah]

This is what happens when you follow teachers blindly

[@letstalksomeball921]

it’s so wrong i don’t even know where to start

[@qazitahseen1780]

At the beginning Shaykh said not to include him when he said the jamaa. But he was taught that Tawassul is allowed, but doesn't he follow it? He is the best Shaykh I know and look up to him. Can anyone please explain? Thank you.

[@alhaqiquhOfficial]

When He was talking about the scholars, and he said “our opinion” and out of his humility he cleared that he wasn’t saying he’s one of the scholars or that he’s a scholar, but as in “our opinion“ meaning me and you, our families, him and everyone else who’s basically Sunni,

[@xorpe7172]

He didnt say anything about Istighatha

[@tayyabshahzad688]

It's the same as tawassul i.e. seeking the Prophet's (s.a.w.) intercession.

[@sriNi-zf1od]

Deviated

[@sriNi-zf1od]

James Yusuf is Ahlul Bidah wal jamaah. Sufiyyun Quburiyyun

[@Justme-vq8rx]

Would you mind proving that the Prophet Saw is "alive" in his grave? Bc saying :"when we say assalamu aleikum he answer" is not a proof in itself as it can be restricted to salutation only.

[@mohamadkhateeb402]

Is your question whether or not the Rasul can hear you?

[@Justme-vq8rx]

@@mohamadkhateeb402 Is he "alive", can he hear my duas and can he make duas, what is the proof?

[@Justme-vq8rx]

@@Hello-vu8xk Let's suppose they are alive in their grave what tells you they can hear you and make dua? Why if that's the case the companions (ra) didn't do it when we know how much they were close to the Prophet (saw), and how much they were affected by his death. In the haddith where they go to Ibn abbas (ra), why didn't they go directly to the Prophet's (saw) grave. And Aisha (ra) she was living in the very house were the Prophet (saw) was burried if it was something to be done she would have been the first one to do it, why didn't she? If it is something with such a benefit why is it not said by the Prophet (saw) himself directly?

[@Justme-vq8rx]

@@Hello-vu8xk Ah ok, baarallahoufik.

[@Husayn0318]

@@Justme-vq8rx The companions did do it. There's a sahih hadith in Mustadrak Lil hakim. A sahabi named Bilal bin Harith went to the grave of the Prophet and he said "O messenger of Allah(Ya Rasul Allah) your nation is nearing destruction. Pray to your lord for rain and provisions." Note: This is not the exact translation of the original text.

[@الْمَذْهَبُالْحَنْبَلِيُّ-ت9ذ]

This is tawassul, but what about Istighatha? I know there's an opinion in the hanbali madhab that it is haram, and I think another that says makruh. But what other opinions are there?

[@andrewrauhaus2277]

instagram.com/p/CJ12svEgzaz/?igshid=eyciyyc5790a This is the Hanbali position by Shaykh Yusuf bin saddiq al hanbali

[@الْمَذْهَبُالْحَنْبَلِيُّ-ت9ذ]

@Zaid Khan Istighatha isn't always shirk, it's only some modern "scholars" that say it is. Even Ibn Taymiyyah RH held that depending on the intention, it can be shirk, and it can not be shirk, as reported by Ibn Kathir.

[@الْمَذْهَبُالْحَنْبَلِيُّ-ت9ذ]

@Zaid Khan This is a valid opinion. I thought you were saying istighatha is shirk in all cases, which is untrue.

[@الْمَذْهَبُالْحَنْبَلِيُّ-ت9ذ]

@Zaid Khan There are actually many ahadith that show that the dead hears what happens near his grave, and that he knows of his visitor (some said at all times, some said the day of Jumu'ah before sunrise only, some said also a day before and after, etc.), and that he knows the news of his loved ones, and that he sees and knows what happens at his grave, he is rejoiced with what good happens and pained with what bad happens, etc.

[@ms7178]

@@الْمَذْهَبُالْحَنْبَلِيُّ-ت9ذ where did ibn kathir mention it if you could say

[@hassanahmed6758]

😅

[@omartechnique6090]

Duah is worship..we cannot seek help from any individual to ask them to make duah unless they are alive and present. The prophet SAW passed away and Abu Bakr said the prophet has died, Allah does not die. None of the companions sought intercession in their duah through the prophet after he passed away. Stop spreading falsehood

[@mamadoufarissou7312]

you just lied, you said none of the companions sought intercession , do you even read books or not, the hadith of uthman ibn hunaif who is a companion is well known and sahih, and the prophet thaught him duaa of tawassul, omar ra did istisqaa with alabbass the uncle of the prophet saw, aicha did istisqaa with the grave of the prophet. there is a hadith of malik addar, where a bedouin came to the prophets grave and talked to the prophet directly and said o prophet help us, none of the sahaba told him it is shirk, so you know what, your fiqh and understanding of khawarij you can put deep where the sun doesnt shine. by the way istighathaa is not duaa, stop misleading the people

[@omartechnique6090]

@@mamadoufarissou7312 You seem angry, thanks for giving me some good deeds by name calling me. Some of the evidence you mention are while the people are alive. In terms of Istisqaa. The hadith you mention about Malik addar, in the hadith the conclusion was to seek istisqaa from Umar who was alive at the time. And the understanding of the scholars is to seek help from Allah and then the living Muslims (Ibn Kathir, Asqalani).. Give the evidence for what you say about Aisha RA at the grave of the prophet if your truthful. Your calling me a liar. So either I am, or you are. I still stand on the stance that no one seeked tawassul or istigatha through the prophet after his death. So snap out of your anger and provide some evidence young lad.

[@mamadoufarissou7312]

@@omartechnique6090 in the hadith of malik addar, they did istisqaa with alabbas not with umar, umar himself said to alabbas the uncle of the prophet, we used to do istisqaa by the prophet saw but now we are seeking istisqaa through alabbas ra because he is ahlulbait. Second the hadith about Aicha ra, its in sunan addarimi , in gharibu alhadith of the hanbali scholar alharbi, almaqrizis imtaa amongst other books. Through the aithaurity of abu aljawzaa aws ibn abdillah.

[@mamadoufarissou7312]

@@omartechnique6090 i am not angry and i am not giving you good deeds, im just telling the truth, you said no one of the predessessors did asked intercession, what about the sahih hadith of uthman ibn hunaif may Allah be pleased with him, you cannot denie this hadith, its called the hadith of tawassul of the blind man, the prophet saw himself thaught him, are you calling the prophet mushrik now, waliyadhubillah.

[@Nazeem_6621]

Isthigatha is 100% shirk.

[@mamadoufarissou7312]

it means the man from banu israel was doing shirk when he did istighatha with musa as, you are such a gullible soul

[@alhashmy1310]

He misguided the muslims

[@mrkks123]

😂😂😂 paganism😊