It's hilariuos how this is became "Gage vs Farfa series presents: Pack Dash! featuring Doug from the Master Saga series" because Doug got so unlucky with his pulls.
@Kintaku12 күн бұрын
I honestly don’t mind the “cannot be destroyed by battle” cards as a KZbin viewer. I can understand why it is boring for chat but the Crush Cards does a good job with making even the many turns of nothing viewer friendly. I think it’s interesting to see how the decks are able to out these cards over time. And they can help a technically worse deck stall until it draws the useful cards.
@QuatroXEspada12 күн бұрын
Gage scared the shit out of me when he said "why is your dogs name George like come on" right as I was calling my dog who is named George.
@AnuxeL12 күн бұрын
Did you answer his question though
@emred465312 күн бұрын
He knows
@hazamax213912 күн бұрын
Ain't no way Doug says "I just want to spin the wheel as much as possible" and then blames us for putting wheels everywhere. That's some next level addiction
@Yuzuki133712 күн бұрын
I mean both can be true at the same time :P
@ericmay56010 күн бұрын
Gaslighting at its finest LOL
@bosniagaming270812 күн бұрын
Doug saying “he can’t put down the cup” gave me whiplash
@24kam4812 күн бұрын
they call him the what?
@duelistemissary768012 күн бұрын
Doug’s deck isn’t even that bad. He has a coherent synchro strategy and everything. The problem is the other two just have better cards. They’re practically playing a pile of good cards and it’s enough to absolute blast Doug.
@winnerwood12 күн бұрын
They could probably do with importing the Legacy Bans system from Saga in future seasons of this. Or else it'd always boil down to who pulls Baronne/Accesscode/Whatever big power card. Without the semi-constructed archetypes of Saga, the power cards are even stronger with less to counter them.
@geiseric22212 күн бұрын
@@winnerwoodthis is pointless. The odds you pull either of those cars is hilariously low, hell Barone isn’t even good unless gage pulls better instead Like enlightenment paladin has put in just as much work as Barone just by being level 8 with a good effect
@Endershock167812 күн бұрын
@@winnerwood Baronne and Accesscode Talker suck in this format and legacy banning them makes no sense. Baronne is one negate and like, a pop in exchange for what's usually 3 monsters, and Accesscode is a few pops for 4 monsters and requires generic links to use him at all. The bigger problem cards are easy to summon removal cards, things like Infinite Antlion, Soul Scissors, and Unchained Abomination are significantly better in Sealed by virtue of being strong, accessible, and repeatable removal in a format where you need a ton of resources to make anything.
@michaelvalentinoyo125912 күн бұрын
@@Endershock1678Yep. It's why i feel like Farfa has a much better deck than both Gage and Doug. He has so much more power cards. Gage has some removals and Baronne but that's it after the bannings. Doug is just very unlucky to always get Baronned. I feel like Gage vs Doug isn't that one sided if Baronne doesnt hit the field.
@MiyaoMeow58812 күн бұрын
having a real strategy and just getting stomped by random pile decks. just master duel things
@DoctorFalchion12 күн бұрын
I saw this one live, PAINFUL how bad Doug's card quality is compared to the others. Wishing him some good pulls so he doesn't fall further and further behind (this series reward/ban system seems rather snowball oriented TBH). The Farfa v Gage game was entertaining at least.
@RPGFanboy1412 күн бұрын
They really are. I feel like last place should get some kind of craft or something
@GameDay1UP12 күн бұрын
@@RPGFanboy14 It shouldn't be a craft, it ruins the concept of a masochist tournament. Maybe the last place gets to ban one card?
@ironfletch298112 күн бұрын
I think it shouldn’t be just bans exactly… I think every 3 losses you get against an opponent should be a decraft wheel on that opponent. Then if you ever get 10 wins ahead of any opponent, they get a targeted, no wheel ban, you know a blue shell of sorts. Lastly, their minds could change, but if they do this for multiple seasons, let’s keep the ban list going.
@notdiegocontreras264912 күн бұрын
@@RPGFanboy14 *Crafts Generic Staple Immediately*
@OsirusHandle12 күн бұрын
more snowball just means faster series
@wario122612 күн бұрын
I've commented like this before, but can I just say BIG Thank You to Doug for posting such entertaining series on such a tight schedule. I look forward to every Wednesday and Saturday to watch these on my lunch breaks at work. They help me unwind and I really love the routine.
@plusplay257512 күн бұрын
Do not ban cannot be destroyed by battle cards they are awesome! And gage at the end was funny af
@Leon.2k12 күн бұрын
Boys I dont even play this card game but Saga and Pack Dash are my binge watch series during my breaks from IRL
@silviopaolo728212 күн бұрын
I remember as an edison only player when i started watching during s2, had to get through 2 season of material until i caught up in s3 and than had to re-watch from the start since i realized i really did not understand the game the first time.
@Onibushou12 күн бұрын
Mystic Tomato is the real ketchup mechanic.
@TheMightyGiantDad11 күн бұрын
Extremely dumb. I love it
@godofmercy12312 күн бұрын
I feel like everyone's reading comprehension goes down by 10 when they play pack dash cause the amount of "reading!" moments this series has is crazy
@MechAleXtreme11 күн бұрын
I feel like this series needs a comeback mechanic, especially since the game this series is referencing is Mario Kart, a series which famously has comeback mechanics like Bullet Bill and Blue Shell.
@yabbdab12 күн бұрын
"Naa man I'm all on that boat" 20:41 this killed me lmao
@ericbreese307112 күн бұрын
Definitely like Fara’s explanation for how and why he made certain deck choices for the trap hole cards
@joshuajohnson959412 күн бұрын
One of the easiest ways to determine if someone is a chemist: ask them to pronounce unionized.
@bridgeseller700412 күн бұрын
Okay, that one is funny.
@velphidrow11 күн бұрын
chemist vs engineer
@nickF_CA12 күн бұрын
Farfa so lucky he has a good pool of "CHOONERS" now
@callmesilver26832 күн бұрын
I'm chooning
@Syrinfox11 күн бұрын
Not really related to the episode but Doug mentioned Goblin Pothole Squad and it has lore reasons for its effect and existence. Look at the Trap Hole type cards and most of them are goblins falling in. So the Goblin Pothole Squad was formed to take care of those pesky holes.
@rodolfofelix953112 күн бұрын
Doug saying I can't put down the cup had me dead
@MrObscureinsanity12 күн бұрын
My wife had to have emergency surgery, and life has been kind of crazy. I literally gasped out loud when I saw this video! Thank you for the content it made my day.
@juanticimo837912 күн бұрын
We pray your wife comes out fine 🫡
@kanevivi12 күн бұрын
Hope things calm for yall
@qazaq2512 күн бұрын
It might be a bit early to say but if you have a second season of this I'd recommend that the extra packs are based on losses instead of wins. I get that they are basically prizes but a catch-up mechanic sounds more important...
@MrShukaku199112 күн бұрын
Nah, have each win get a pack, but each loss lets you craft a duplicate of a card you've obtained. Maybe no duping SR/URs to prevent a single super pull from multiplying by tossing a week
@darkpuppetlordful12 күн бұрын
Or add a loser wheel so we can double dip on wheel spinning.
@notdiegocontreras264912 күн бұрын
I mean...there has to be a reward for winning?...(Although I do get it about being a snowball mechanic.)
@geiseric22212 күн бұрын
What’s the point. They have a catch up mechanism in the bans 2 extra packs isn’t gonna change shit
@bridgeseller700412 күн бұрын
@@notdiegocontreras2649Does it has to be, though? Winning is the reward in itself - I doubt any of them would throw games to get some extra packs. You win, you get to triumph over the opponent, you get a higher score. Now, a better idea would be having different "rewards" for winning AND losing, to make catching up easier. Something based on losses and their decks, perhaps. But still, a series can exist without mandatory win rewards.
@afeathereddinosaur12 күн бұрын
Dzeff, you will pull everything one day. I believe in you. Believe in the me that believes in the heart of the cards for you, because you need more bangers of your own
@mageius12 күн бұрын
It's so worth keeping things that can't be destroyed by battle lol.
@Salacavalini12 күн бұрын
Stardust Spark Dragon can actually still protect itself if you chain its effect to whatever is flipping it face-down. It only loses the protection if you apply it and then it's flipped face-down on a new chain. Weird, but there's a ruling for this interaction.
@bridgeseller700410 күн бұрын
That's just incorrect though? The ruling describes the opposite situation - CL1 Spark Dragon, CL2 BoM. CL2 resolves, flips it face-down. Cl1 resolves, applies effect successfully. HOWEVER: If it's CL1 BoM and you use Spark Dragon's effect in response on CL2, that protection ceases to exist when it's flipped face-down when CL1 BoM resolves.
@bridgeseller700410 күн бұрын
I.e. it only works if for some reason opponent decides to chain flipping effect to Spark's effect, not the other way around. And they have no reason to do so - they can just wait for a new chain - or activate it before Spark activates.
@248jdude12 күн бұрын
Get the neighbors honey, it’s Saturday again
@SaHa0v012 күн бұрын
Sticky indestructible cards add tension to these games.
@crh198511 күн бұрын
I think “can’t be destroyed by battle” effect monsters can be used in one episode than the card is banned next episode if the card was used or not. The card can be pulled but not used to save for a better time, but if another player gets and uses it the card is banned before the player could use it.
@Alx50111 күн бұрын
We need a super cut of all the non-sequitur conversations in these series, like the cut to Gage raising people giving dog’s human names out of nowhere
@billyjdonut12 күн бұрын
3:39 would you rather have 1 dollar or 2 dollars...
@SonicSaltyStryker12 күн бұрын
This series could definitely use a Blue Shell mechanic. The ban wheel every 5 wins is more a Red Shell which is more a minor setback for the winning players.
@steelblake12 күн бұрын
Incredible how pack dash became a version of "of course You have it"
@RiderOmega12 күн бұрын
Somebody on one of these shows finally read one of the comments about where cards come from! I don't personally post about it every time, because I can't be hurting myself like that, but I'm so happy that knowledge is finally in one of these MD shows.
@charliebanks60512 күн бұрын
Doug is about to get stomped tf out every week for the rest of this series if his trash luck doesn't change immediately. This series is fun but very random and he's falling behind quickly.
@jamesdeslaurier741312 күн бұрын
Really hope you do more seasons of this series really enjoy it keep up the good work
@kat-vi9wz11 күн бұрын
I can't put down the cup and Gage being a goblin with the ghastly grudge was CINEMA.
@KixMusaid12 күн бұрын
56:26 not only gage has used that card but joshua schmidt as well😂
@andrewjennings23612 күн бұрын
Just a reminder to all the Doug fans who are now just complaining about the balancing of this series, there is a delay from when they record this. After watching the first episode my thought was “huh winners get additional packs and the only catch up mechanic is a total of 4 bans, that’s so imbalanced I may not like this series.” But the gameplay was good enough I stopped caring about that. It was also very lucky this series stayed as balanced as it has up until now
@ZGAMER7779 күн бұрын
It's hilarious how genuinely upset Gage looks when he's losing/about to lose like there are no stakes here bro cheer up
@chrisb.202812 күн бұрын
38:19 small note, Raigeki IS available in the master pack card pool, can't remember if always was like this or was added to the master packs after being included in the alt art ash blossom reprint box, I remember because that's where I got my royal rare, monster reborn and rota are unobtainable tho.
@shapular11 күн бұрын
I think they added it to the master pack after they put it to 2 since you can actually do something with a second copy now.
@themightyai-530212 күн бұрын
Each player should only be allowed each type of immunity once each. So they can have two separate cards that has battle protection and card effect protection respectively, but if they have one card with both of those protections, then that is the single card they may have. The same should go for all immunities, as that would make really interesting decks and deck building. (Spell immunity, tribute immunity and so on)
@kevinvidjai216111 күн бұрын
This has to be one of the funniest episodes so far xD
@turobot88039 күн бұрын
I loved how long this was. Fun times and chats.
@eelfroth10 күн бұрын
59:35 i don't think "cannot be destroyed by battle", or any other generic effect, should be banned outright. yeah these cards are annoying, but the fun of masochist is trying to make your limited cardpool work in any way you can. if the meta becomes too stale i'd rather see some changes to the ban wheel, like maybe doing it more often, so you can ban specific problem cards
@eelfroth10 күн бұрын
like say, for example, the losers get to ban a card(s) each episode. then someone with a vendetta against stall could work on getting rid of all the aroma jars one by one
@LazurBeemz12 күн бұрын
I think we need ONE of these series to figure out a way to incorporate the solo mode cards
@lewisfishr12 күн бұрын
mr zeef would loved to see a special high speed dash round with a 30 second timer for the games
@Leprosyyyy12 күн бұрын
I have an idea to shake up the game, make it less lopsided that winners get better chances of winning more, and most importantly add MORE wheels. If you win you still get one more master pack per win BUT if you lose, for every loss you get that week you take all the secret packs you unlocked from your master pulls, put the packs on a wheel, and pull one pack of the one you land on. If you lose two games you do it twice but you have to spin the selection again. This will emulate now in Mario kart first place just gets stuff like coins while last place gets crazy items.
@SilverTheReaper12 күн бұрын
Ghost of a Grudge was actually used by Yuma(Zexal Protagonist) in the manga against the cooler character, Thunder Spark. This was done in something called a Speed Duel(No relation)
@delay884811 күн бұрын
i cannot unsee the editor just reversing the speedometer animation from the first couple episodes lol
@jubabagobuna790712 күн бұрын
The two underdog pulls made me feel as if i rewinded the video. i was sooo confused..
@gameglitchr910511 күн бұрын
It's really funny that chat is like "remember torch" because blowtorch does NOT have a GY effect. Not only does it require you to have no spells and traps in grave, it also requires itself to be in the hand AND another superheavy samurai on the field, none of which was fulfilled.
@Hoshiko2nd12 күн бұрын
We're packing And we're dashing
@AstralLaVista12 күн бұрын
Super masochist fun time with friends!
@eva09112 күн бұрын
Farfa not playing Tindangle Trinity seems insane.
@victikirby1512 күн бұрын
Is that my boy GHOST OF A GRUDGE in the thumbnail????
@masterduelzero179511 күн бұрын
In terms of "cannot be destroyed by battle", I definitely don't think they should ve banned. It reminds me of how some cards can warp how you play your own cards but in a good way. There definitely shouldn't be so many of them, though. Limiting it 2 or 3 would be perfect
@cerdocucaracha357312 күн бұрын
You can get Raigeki from Master Pack, i remember getting one...unless it was a bug or they changed it recently
@LeiChaobruh12 күн бұрын
it's cause it's not limited anymore. The other two are literally only useful for dust if you could pull them
@Shakazuki11 күн бұрын
At 38:19 about the Raigeki: This is wrong. First, I obtained one Raigeki Copy through the master packs and second, when you click the card in the Deck Builder it tells you it can be obtained from the Solo Mode OR Master Packs.
@maxt.222412 күн бұрын
One suggestion for “cant be destroyed by battle” cards is maybe limit them to one card per deck. Like Gage could have Vijam OR Naga but not both? I personally dont really care but i could see how it can get annoying after a while
@UriaW11 күн бұрын
13:45 what mbt doing here 😂
@chrisschmidt535110 күн бұрын
Everytime I've seen ghost of a grudge activated it's a blowout
@monkeylemur12 күн бұрын
You should only be able to have 1 battle immune card. I think having more than 1 just allows the duel to last near deck out every goddamn time. Having only 1 means at least decks generally have 1 or more outs, so it's more balanced
@randomgenretalk815112 күн бұрын
I don't mind players having monsters that can't be destroyed by battle but i think each player should only have one to prevent staring contest's.
@hernandezaurelio9512 күн бұрын
As a KPop fan I appreciate all the KPop cuts ❤
@jimjams478711 күн бұрын
38:30 You can definitely pull raigeki from master packs since I have one in my masochist deck. I've never seen monster reborn and rota, so they might have just added raigeki to master packs when they semi-limited it
@reidmoore875412 күн бұрын
I would use Ghost of a Grudge in my Ghosttrick deck cause it would be a surprise out of nowhere just to dome a boss monster with Specter or something silly
@SkySnowSOS11 күн бұрын
I think the loser should get a "Farfa Wheel" of sorts to help them out.
@LexSchilperoord12 күн бұрын
new bans pogchamp new bans pogchamp
@kaiserauthoria12 күн бұрын
Ghost of a Grude is INSANE in this format
@twofacecomix12 күн бұрын
Doug getting bullied: the game: the movie
@robertmantuano924312 күн бұрын
Shout out to Crush Cards, editing skills continue to get better 🙌
@DM-Oz11 күн бұрын
"Why is this a super rare" Because Konami decided that every archetype needs super rares, even shitty ones.
@NintendoMasterNo112 күн бұрын
Doug is getting bullied harder than me in middle school
@feliperapidstar395112 күн бұрын
this format is amazing id love to have friends that play ygo
@AwesumVloggin12 күн бұрын
Slip of fortune is a fortune card, I assume it's meant to be used with fortune lady light so she survives til standby, also is banished so she can summon from deck.
@johnk.735012 күн бұрын
I agree with doug that next season they should probably ban the cant be destroyed by battle cards. But id like to recommend that the Timelords be exempted. They are generically useful and they shuffle themselves back after battle.
@spackmoose600210 күн бұрын
Another episode of the Goblin Pothole Squad
@ToastyMuppet12 күн бұрын
Hoping beyond hope that Farfa puts laurel in his deck as a potential special summon
@exLightningg12 күн бұрын
53:37 But the comments of that video was mostly people impressed at how in-deph GOAT format could be and how thought-out Gage and Farfa's play decisions were. SeeReax came off as a total tool though with the commentary on how slow you guys were playing, I assume that is what Gage was referring to?
@davidecimino711212 күн бұрын
Please keep the indestructible by battle monsters, they're hilarious
@Zarvanis12 күн бұрын
I wonder what they could realistically do to offset the extreme bad luck vs good luck disparity.
@LazurBeemz12 күн бұрын
They just have to play more seasons! It'll even out over time.
@Big_Goofer12 күн бұрын
Personally I would ban the can't be destroyed by battle at least for the Dash part of pack dash.
@Dio_kazuhira12 күн бұрын
If when I see your video, I say episode, let's go", youre doing something right.
@24isthebestyea12 күн бұрын
I think if you pull "can't be destroyedby battle" cards you can't use them but you get another pack to open instead, or they can't be used after the 5th win per player
@fireky311 күн бұрын
I think not only should you not ban the can't be destroyed by battle cards, I think if you're playing them you should ask "cards in deck?" every turn
@peterusmc2012 күн бұрын
So something to consider is that over time your 10 packs are less likely to contain cards as good as the cards you already have. The bans redress this a little I guess but there is a lot of room for some sort of conceit to increase the speed of the format as it continues so that the actual progression of the deck doesn't taper off. One option to stick with the analogy of the Mario cart race could be some sort of speed boost mechanic that everyone gets or each person has to complete a challenge or something for etc. This could be a craft to enable some engine that wouldn't otherwise work or additional packs or whatever else comes to mind (could even be a wheel). Another idea would be some monopoly style trades where every few episodes each player gets to trade 1 card with each other player and you all can negotiate what those are. Give a common for one archetype for a common from the other or choose to spite each other and trade some rubbish if one player is too far ahead. Regardless really enjoying the show so far! It's like a less painful masochist that gets to play against other masochists exclusively rather than selftk bots, swordsoul and dark magician. Hope it continues!
@peterusmc2012 күн бұрын
Another option since you all seem to have opened the packs with the free generics maybe you spin a wheel with them on it and get to run one for that episode only like picking up an item in yugioh cart.
@Asd289712 күн бұрын
I think having cards that don't get destroyed by battle is fine, though having multiple in a deck may be a little much
@Marc01712 күн бұрын
Shirley Doug can make a comeback someday somehow
@shapular11 күн бұрын
I think it could be interesting to give each player a free copy of Pentestag instead of banning Aroma Jars.
@krisvillanueva682612 күн бұрын
49:39 Relicanth is crying
@Piggly8w812 күн бұрын
Another week of Pack Dash and another week of wishing for Gage to go 0-2
@andrewspoelstra8710 күн бұрын
At 5:05, the editor should've cut to The Princess Bride and the minister doing the mawage
@Yugiohdeckmaster4112 күн бұрын
cut the battle immunity to 1 per person so if you got multiple in your library you can only put 1 monster with that text in your deck at a time atleast this way it will allow the slow down but once outted it done unless they can recover it
@Merilirem12 күн бұрын
"Human names for dogs" is not new.
@gzrittzzg246312 күн бұрын
Ikr
@Malidala12 күн бұрын
Instead of a blanket ban on stall walls, limiting the total number you can have in your deck would be fine, or just increasing the number of bans.
@SonyGaming5X12 күн бұрын
Doug has an out to Baronn at last Tzolkin into RDA & crash & yeah raigeki is craft or lore practice I meant! 😂
@brwahussen10 күн бұрын
You don’t need to remove “can’t be destroyed by battle” monsters. Gage's game against farfa was literally just a bunch of those card which made him lose.
@macanii12 күн бұрын
Idk if someone else said it already, but you CAN pull Raigeki out of Master Packs. I just pulled one the other day on my masochist account. Not sure about Monster Reborn though
@Straven9312 күн бұрын
38:25 its just rota and reborn. Raigeki was added to the master pack around the time it went to two.
@Zeaks12311 күн бұрын
''im on all that boat''
@Meh-fo7sp12 күн бұрын
Maybe normal/special summonable monsters that can't get destroyed by battle should go. Though the ones where you actually have to spend resources to get up should stay.