What is the Blue Revolution?

No politics I promise.
Today we face the daunting challenge of feeding nearly 8 billion people, and that number will grow to at least 11 billion by 2100. With already half of all the habitable land on Earth dedicated to agriculture, we're starting to run out of options. Could the Blue Revolution be our answer?
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[@soulchester3194]

When you realize the first 6 minutes of the video was just an intro.

[@joycetam3239]

thanks now i know to skip

[@Samuel_J1]

@@joycetam3239 it's an informative and interesting intro if that helps

[@mushmush4980]

Yea I was about to say that, that's overkill

[@borkwoof696]

@@mushmush4980 no, it’s not. It provides important background information

[@mimimarcus]

I realized he overkilled, so I skipped it. Hehe

[@daviddavis4885]

5:42 “There is one place on earth with both unlimited space and water” Me: Antarctica! Atlas: the Ocean, obviously..... Me: Oh.... that makes a lot more sense...

[@guiorgy]

Would be kind of cool if we could reliably grow crops on ice lol. Then again, it would probably worsen the whole meting ice problem :P

[@name4601]

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that.

[@helltubejackie1086]

Unfrozen lettuce

[@JeroenJA]

luckely, antartica is the only place on earth that has been worldwide agreed that no one owns the underground riches or can exploit the continent for economical activities. only scientific studies and expeditions are allowed, huge different with the north pole .. with current competition to claim as much underwater seebed as possible, for future extractions of hoped oil, minerals and other earthly riches ... the polar bear stand very little chance to survive in but a few isolated places, long term in the wild ..

[@hurhurhurhurhruhrurh]

You’re not allowed to grow anything in Antarctica. Even their trash has to be taken away. You can watch PBS Terra. They have a lot about the people living there.

[@leeb9342]

The fish be like; "I never agreed to any of this."

[@JakeLipohar]

Yeah, most of this video is hard to accept as a vegan. I'd rather see governments impose taxes on meat consumption and provide incentives to non-monoculture fruit and veggie production. We've been underpaying for our food for so long, the only way people will change their habits is through their wallets.

[@leeb9342]

@@JakeLipohar as another fellow vegan, I 100% agree. 👍

[@ArthursHD]

@@leeb9342 Same could be said about plants. As of now, there is no way around it. We just have to sacrifice life to stay alive and healthy. Whole another thing is needless sacrifice! We should plan ahead on what we eat in advance so there is no staggering amount of wasted food.

[@JosephDiveley]

@@JakeLipohar So you want us to pay more for food we don't want to eat in the first place. Brilliant. You do realize that plants feel pain and scream in agony when you harvest them too right? They just do it at a frequencies that humans can't hear. If your eating food then you stole or murdered a living creature to have it or paid others to do it for you. Food is food. Stop trying to force your vegan nonsense down the throats of those of us who prefer to eat a balanced diet instead of an extreme and unhealthy one.

[@blugaledoh2669]

@@JosephDiveley There is also environmental reason to be vegan. Although if the blue revolution does occur, it might solve one issue. Where did you get the info that plants feel pain? Also it is in fact possible to have a healthy and balance vegan diet.

[@tjardhamming441]

Ironically, in your introduction you gave the answer as to why aquaculture would be a great problem. You have a good way of explaining the concept, but wouldn't you think some of your points are contradictory? Monoculture is a system that is detrimental to what it tries to achieve, as it is in fact a one-sided solution which totally neglects the ecological consequences of the system. But that ecological system is exactly what agricultural can't go without. If you think about it, you could come to the conclusion that aquaculture is just agricultural monoculture pushed out to sea. You can always try to mitigate and adapt to the problems that arise, without ever tackling the cause. As we have seen in agriculture, it is almost impossible to account for everything, without creating a new problem. I'm doing a study in the Netherlands on aquatic eco-technology, in which I have learnt that nature often offers great solutions to human problems. Nature has developed their systems over millions of years to almost achieve perfection. Something to think about: instead of interfering in these processes, we could try and learn from them and implement them in our solutions. One example in this case: large parts of the ocean could be turned into protected areas for fish species to thrive. There would be so much fish in those areas that the populations would overflow into fishing areas. This would solve the problem of overfishing with minimal effort and improve the fishing capacity greatly. If you are interested in this subject, I highly recommend looking into regenerative agriculture, which focuses on this mindset.

[@Ingeb91]

I guess a step in the right direction from deep sea mono-culture farms, would be to grow several things in the same area, like having kelp forests and mollusc farms in the same general area. maybe bad example if they eat the same stuff, i'm just curious about this, i don't actually know much about it, but there should be combinations of deep sea farming that would kind of cancel each others environmental consequences out to a certain degree. what do you think? if you have some stuff for me to read on hand, feel free to link it :D I'll look into regenerative agriculture now.

[@Ingeb91]

@@tjardhamming441 Thanks, ill check it out immediately. I've heard some rumours about in doors farms in Holland using machine learning to optimise farming, so I think machine learning would be your best bet when it comes to managing a scaling up of an on surface permaculture. They use it to get some giga yield tomato plants, but I think that tech is far better used in determining how much red clover you need to plant criss crossing your giant wheat fields, to make sure the soil is constantly refilled with nitrogen.

[@Ingeb91]

@@tjardhamming441 Thanks :D

[@DadDoStuff]

My friend continued his agriculture study in Holland exactly for this reason. Good to know the knowledge she learned is developing so quickly

[@NewArchipelago]

I think you have the right idea for sure. In the long term, hopefully once as many people as possible will be lifted out of poverty and into a "middle class" life with plenty of food and access to education and health care, people will continue to have children later and having fewer children. As I'm sure you know population growth has already slowed down a lot in developed countries around the world, to the point where we can even expect to see declining populations. If humanity can learn the lessons of natural systems that you mentioned, things could like quite good long term, if we can make sure there's enough of the natural world left to bounce back after the population peak that's coming.

[@hioyua650]

"I know what your thinking, how exactly does water based agriculture work?" I was thinking about how bloody long that intro was.

[@mrpopulistless]

I was thinking about "and the really naive count on vertical farming". Way to insult by far the most efficient and environmentally friendly form of food production without any justification. Lost all respect for this channel

[@Greg-yu4ij]

Yeah and all the useless lies. Like livestock using up 75% of farmland. But that land is unsuitable for crops! It’s suitable for grazing. I’m sold on aquaculture but why lie that we have an overpopulation crisis when the opposite is true, a worldwide population collapse in developed countries. The elites take these scientists seriously and are shutting down farmers and ensuring a worldwide famine! They see themselves as gods, and consider culling the human population to be good stewards of the environment

[@TomBruhh]

@@mrpopulistless Lmao chill. One innocuous comment is enough to ruin an entire channel of great content. Stop overreacting lol

[@y33t23]

If it is possible for people to live on a platform in the middle of the ocean to drill for oil, then platforms for the purpose of housing fish farmers should work out too, or am I missing something? Only financial problem would be bringing over all the supplies.

[@sheepketchup9059]

Don't forget automation

[@benedict6962]

an oil platform presumably generates its own energy to run. Aquaculture platforms will need to play around with solar and hydro turbines to get a consistent level of electricity, especially for emergencies.

[@shitlordflytrap1078]

@@benedict6962 nuclear technology has the answer here. And I don't mean a full scale reactor but rather the ones used by icebreakers and submarines. They're small nuclear reactors which aren't as efficient but very safe.

[@mohamedbassam9328]

I think it's an economic problem here as oil is much more profitable and less labor intensive than fishing ,so it doesn't make economic sense to house people in the middle of the ocean for fishing . Not to mention the lack of motive for people to go live in the middle of the ocean if they get paid the same amount of money.

[@tiely13]

Yeah, I can't imagine that due to the lack of experience and technology it's now worthwhile for private companies to invest in this full-on mariculture without heavy subsidies. It's just cheaper to go on the ocean with a boat and hunt those 'free' fish.

[@johnnymartinjohansen]

Here in Norway, aquaculture has become one of the most important industries. Currently, it's mostly about salmon, but billions are being invested in both better technologies, and other products.

[@andrewhenshaw4067]

"It will be known as the *Blue Revolution* Ad plays: Blue Fanta will blow your mind!

[@adnanilyas6368]

Tuna “farming” isn’t really a farming operation. What Tuna farms do is capture relatively immature shoals of tuna in huge pens made out of nets, and then transport those pens somewhere where the tuna can be managed for 6-12 months while the tuna are fattened. Because of this, tuna “farming” is actually EXTREMELY harmful to wild populations because those wild populations are being taken out of the breeding population all at once, instead of being caught to match demand as needed.

[@soviettankmen]

of course they know about this, and they tried to develop full cycle tuna farm and now there is already fully farmed tuna in japan. The main problem of aquaculture, especially mariculture, regarding to the wild population is aquaculture FEED. A lot of trash/junk fish that used to feed the farmed fish are from bycatch or wild captured so it really impacted on wild population. But again, a lot of effort went to find solution about this problem, such as using plant-based protein e.g. soy bean meal and insect-based protein e.g. maggot meal as substitute for fish meal in formulated feed edit : maybe because of my bad english, i should add here, that wild fish population is declining, and one of the reasons is from aquaculture. Why this is happened, eventhough aquaculture is said to be lowering the pressure to wild population because of fisheries activities ? because aquaculture operation needs fish meal in order to feed the farmed fish, and the fish meal that used are from, as i mentioned, wild population and bycatch. Is there any solution about this ? ofc, to substitute the fish meal with plant-based or insect-based feed, such as soy bean or maggot meal for fish feed. Nowadays aquaculturist strives to developt more sustainable methods of fish farming, to mitigate the impacts to the environment and to prevent ecological disasters

[@allencox3730]

Adding in the the feed in aquaculture a bud development would also be using kelp and seaweed as the feed stock. We already use it in our vegetarian and vegan burgers as a meat substitute

[@johnrutledge3892]

Thanks for straightening out these clearly idiotic people condemning monoculture while simultaneously pushing it for the sea . We need people like you to keep an eye on these types of people. Somehow I feel as if china is behind this vid.

[@AGenericFool]

@@johnrutledge3892 lol

[@tonywilson4713]

As an Australian where the tuna industry was revolutionized by the exact process you described we have come to realise that that exact process has had a huge impact on wild stocks because it leaves nothing. The information on that has come from within the actual industry itself and its been people from within that industry who have funded all the research to breed tuna. Which they have finally done a couple of years ago. In future they hope to replace the wild stocks and also not rely on wild stocks. What he does NOT explain in the slightest are they tons of smaller fish (like pilchards) that have to be wild caught to feed them ad non one yet knows what damage is being done there. What he also does not mention is the incredible damage being done to places like Tasmania where they have now found that if you put too many salmon pens in one place it can do massive damage. Fish like all animals piss and shit and just like they have with cattle feed lots if you pack too may fish into a pen all that shit and piss falls to the bottom and wrecks everything. Its it a massive concern for the salmon farmers absolutely as they have lost entire pens because of water pollution. So they are working on it, but when you try and tell companies with big investments they have to change they don't like it.

[@abyssal_phoenix]

Im actually starting a fight with monoculture for the bees. I’m breeding different species of flowers and next year the first ones will be released in the wild. It is because thanks to monoculture bees get too little variation in their diet, making their immunesystem a little bit weaker. This also does hit bees quite hard. I’m trying to help them the best I personally can And to fertilize the plants I spread organic matter that would normally be thrown away. I skip the composting process. A few small pieces of these projects actually attract a lot of birds and insects to my garden, so I’m sure they will work on larger scale as well

[@tronation1932]

V need more heroes like u

[@abyssal_phoenix]

@@tronation1932 aww thanks. The best thing is, I’m 16. I have a whole life to do this, and all my classmates are too busy with parties and stuff. I’d wish others would do this as well. I would appreciate helps much. I literally took over the role of the protector of an almost extinct ecosystem: the Dutch peatlands. Plus I really didn’t expect al these likes 😊

[@atinysoftbean1645]

Great project, here's one important thing to note for anyone doing this: Make sure the flowers are actually local wildflowers that bees can eat from and not invasive species, especially if you plant them in the wild, because invasive species take away nutrients from native flowers and can be "inedible" for bees. Some studies done on "bee flower" and "wild flower" seed mixes and "seed bombs" have found that they often contain invasive species, so do research and stay vigilant.

[@elliottstirrop4353]

hey is there a website you can link me to about this? how could i help? how could i do this in my own little area of the world?

[@abyssal_phoenix]

@@atinysoftbean1645 yep I know that. That is why I studied local wildlife and flowers, researched what flowers bees used and then started to collect seeds to sow coming spring and then plant in the wilderness. It’s really important to watch out for invasive species, they could cause the opposite of what I want to achieve. And it is also not worth it if it doesn’t help the bees

[@MrRoyalChicken]

One problem that comes to my mind on this: What are all the fish going to feed on, when you try to farm them in the middle of an oceanic desert?

[@laszloiso777]

plastic :D we GMO the fish and feed them plastic!

[@PiecesOfNature]

@@laszloiso777 lol not on my plate!

[@laszloiso777]

@@PiecesOfNature Then we GMO humans to be able to digest plastic fish :D

[@fillfrog]

You can grow food for them out there, then also cheaply ship in everything else you need. Plus the more things you farm out there will create an oasis of nutrients.

[@diandrad1414]

you feed them pellets that you get shipped every month for instance, and then you have a place to keep it out htere at sea, like a silo, and then you just feed your fish whenever you want to

[@indigiomontoya8005]

I feel my mecury level rising already

[@zombiechcken]

Lol you're a thermometer

[@everythingisfine9988]

@@zombiechcken just someone who eats fish 🐟

[@EllisIsland2023]

Maybe a stupid question - but honestly asked - how does heavy metals get into the sea life that far out?

[@Vizzix]

I feel my nicotine level depleting

[@Vizzix]

@@EllisIsland2023 ship wrecks and rust

[@cyb3ar897]

Before today, I had no idea about the concept of aquaculture. Now that I do, I think this will be something really cool to include in the sci-fi book I'm working on

[@shitlordflytrap1078]

What's it about, brudda

[@davidtitanium22]

something like a hyper-industrialized tech world where the entire planet is covered by cities and the ocean is just a food production facility?

[@dylans3833]

@@davidtitanium22 yuck wouldn't want to live there

[@TheCinderfang]

I've been working on fleshing our merfolk settlements in dnd and their agriculture has been something I was struggling with before. Especially as I was trying to explore them growing beyond nomadic hunters.

[@otashigo]

It has been long done, Chinese sci fi novels like i have a mansion in the post-apocalyptic world have covered this issue and many more in depth.

[@QuantumAscension1]

"... the really naive investing in vertical farms..." Whoa, bruh, whoa! I feel offended. How dare

[@rddragon5]

I agree with the over all point of the video, but vertical farming also helps fix two of the main issues. Land and water use.

[@jortverbakel6669]

Vertical farming probably has some downsides to it. But I don't easily spot large downsides, especially when you compare it to the huge advantages it has in terms of efficiency compared to traditional agriculture.

[@jptritonn5224]

@@jortverbakel6669 Have you ever done a back-of-the-envelope calculation to see how massive vertical farms would have to be to replace conventional agriculture? They're good for leafy greens but the current model cannot be used to grow rice, wheat, corn, or other starches.

[@borkwoof696]

@@rddragon5 how does it solve the water problem?

[@TheCinderfang]

Vertical farms largest benifit is the reduction in the footprint of transportation. It has flaws at the moment but to ignore that is to ignore a large benifit as well as the simple fact of efficient use of space.

[@felixdubiswolf3371]

This is literally the first I've heard of deep sea mariculture even though I follow a lot of things regarding solutions to global warming and several science/edu channels. Thank you for all the info!

[@masonm600]

"And the really naive investing in vertical farms..." could you say more?

[@hopen511]

right! my question exactly

[@skontejonte]

yeah, made me leave a dislike. really dont trust someone who seem so biased

[@quazimofo8742]

Go watch his video about vertical farming to understand his stand point

[@c.j.3404]

@@quazimofo8742 well I would, if I could find any lol

[@leesin1299]

So weird, he then says they don't tackle the real problem, water and land are limited. But vertical farms DO tackle those issues, they use like 97% less water and if you stack them 50 stories high land shouldn't be a problem either. You can also build them wherever the food is needed.

[@Sena-yk6mm]

Microplastics: let me introduce myself

[@alexlaverty8564]

Mercury has also entered the chat

[@alexrogers777]

Land based animals like chicken and beef have plenty of micro plastics in them too. I think the overall benefits of mariculture would outweigh any negatives

[@scp-2348]

Red tide: hello there

[@dejayrezme8617]

@@alexlaverty8564 Afaik: Mercury travels up the food chain. So predator fish like tuna have the highest concentration, while filter feeders the lowest (negligent?). I suspect these maricultures are mostly using land based food for the fishes though instead of growing their own microalgae next door in the ocean.

[@debbiehenri345]

The expansion of deep sea mariculture might actually drive many 'currently' irresponsible governments towards passing more stringent laws to protect their share of the oceans - rather than continuing to use them as a rubbish dump, and that would include providing financial backing to those few companies that are in the process of cleaning the ocean of plastics. Once someone finds a good use or importance for something previously abused, it's amazing how quickly their governments turn round and start protecting it (e.g major rivers in Britain, which used to be be thick with industrial pollutants and devoid of fish in the 60's and 70's. Since the various environmental acts in the UK, fish and aquatic plants have not only crept back into these rivers, they are thriving). I think the one major problem facing mariculture is 'not' continuing to clean up the oceans and passing international laws to protect it from further wilful pollution - but getting all countries to be 'fair' about who has 'the right' to an appropriate share of the oceans in order to conduct their business. We all know how extremely selfish some countries can be. Before it gets to that stage, there needs to be an international organisation for deciding this matter, and not one dominated by 'certain countries' that not only have their own populations in mind, but also think only of dominating the trade side of this form of agriculture in the near future. In essence, a 3rd world nation should have an immediate right to a protected percentage of 'charted farmable' ocean within reasonable reach of its particular continent/island (whether it invests in such schemes right away or not) - and not find that when it time does come to invest in mariculture, other larger, richer nations have already grabbed all the best and closest sea-acres. It wouldn't do for rival nations to start warring over something like this, but there's every potential for this to happen.

[@timpz]

You're missing to mention a crucial point and that is that farmed fish primarily eats a mix of two things: crops and wild fish. For these reasons they are still unsustainable when scaled up considering we're already overfishing and using huge amounts of lands for crops intended for animals. Although it is still better from an environmental stance than livestock (which also eats crops and fish meal).

[@LeakyFaucett]

Not to mention salmon raised in these pens are exceptionally toxic. The skin on farm raised salmon contain the same chemicals as fire retardant. Sorry Norway.

[@ASSamiYT]

I don't see how the logistics of going to the open ocean to feed the World would be very environmentally friendly. That'll fill the valuable coastal areas with more ship traffic and everything that comes with that.

[@LexicroftAlpha]

Another thing that missing : about polution in sea itself, you know microplastic

[@muehahahaha]

Well you could grow plants to feed plant eating fish like carp. And then feed the carp to salmon or tilapia.

[@timpz]

@@muehahahaha Perhaps but it would probably be too expensive or it would be done already. As it stands today sustainable fish doesn't exist and the only thing you can do to prevent overfishing is not buy any fish.

[@BrowncoatGofAZ]

5:40 actually vertical farming uses less land because of the “vertical” part. And hydroponics, which is often used in vertical farming, actually uses less water than soil farming, despite appearances. Admittedly there are drawbacks to that technology, including energy consumption and startup costs.

[@oisin3495]

Yeah that part annoyed me

[@dejayrezme8617]

Wow thank you this is super interesting. Now I wonder if this could be a viable option for "seasteading". You'd have a fleet of ships with people doing this. Building boats as habitats for displaced people, building these fish farms. Growing microalgae as food and cyanobacteria as fertilizer.

[@lrc6217]

ATLAS IS BACK LADS GET YER DRINKS OUTT

[@Xaiff]

I'd rather keep myself sober when I watch Atlas, but I won't stop you from enjoying your time. :D

[@infinitecanadian]

Please turn Caps Lock off before commenting.

[@lrc6217]

@@infinitecanadian n o

[@timetodestination9538]

9:59 Farming tuna is incredible difficult. The survival rate is extreme low.

[@mikimiki1634]

No thats yr mom

[@leandersearle5094]

... You mean before "harvest"?

[@ldangerb7962]

Thank you for making this video. I work in aquaculture and it's great to see some positive feedback on it. It's not perfect but I believe if people stopped trying to shut it down and embraced it, allowing it to revolutionize and technology to get better it could be a great solution for food security and environmental stability!

[@michelangelobuonarroti4958]

4:00 very important to keep in mind is that on the vast majority of the land that is used to raise livestock growing crops is simply not possible for various reasons.

[@jameschristophercirujano6650]

Citing that there were no other big youtubers discussing this topic really brings back memories when we still called you underrated when you only had a few thousand. Congrats on your success, with your quality, the sky's the limit.

[@malcolmreynolds4099]

i remember those times :) and now its 750k wow

[@Hansulf]

Ah, yes, the great sector of fishing fish and giving them to other fish so they get bigger and we can eat them... This video lacks a looot of information like how salmon fisheries are killing wild salmon by breeding pathgens, like explaining how are we depleting wild fisheries for feeding our fisheries, how those "deserts" open ocean regions could be harnessing the biggest and more important ecosystem of the lantern fish... Etc...

[@0Arcoverde]

Yeah Also They lack nutrient, it didn't even cover how to get and keep the nutrient there for the mules for example

[@fleurdepapaye9635]

There is always hole in every systems. No system is perfect.

[@Hansulf]

@@fleurdepapaye9635 Is not about perfection, is about eficiency. This is not eficient at all... The oister this is pretty nice, but the fisheries are the worst.

[@anth1768]

i think it says more about the human race that this only has 32 likes and the one above that says something stupid about Antarctica has 516 likes :/

[@errata]

This video is 100% hopium

[@FIREFOX274]

15:03: What I'm actually thinking: so are we just gonna eat fish and seaweed now?

[@StephensCrazyHour]

Most people in history have survived on less nutritious sources of energy.

[@hamanakohamaneko7028]

not bad actually, I like seafood and if you don't, just eat plant based meats. Those things use seaweed.

[@panchora99]

Videos like this are the reason I love youtube and why I cant live without it

[@michaelcapponi2]

the assumption that where there's high levels of nutrients/phytoplankton is where you'll find the highest levels of biodiversity isn't borne out in the evidence. indeed the fertile areas may have more biomass, but it's the nutrient poor landscapes that have the greatest biodiversity. this includes many tropical rainforests and coral reefs; dry shrublands such as australia's kwongan, south africa's fynbos, california's chaparral etc. i read about this phenomenon in tim flannery's 1994 book the future eaters.

[@irrelevantirrelevant7332]

Biodiversity strongly correlates with available surface area and nutrients. A swamp has higher biodiversity per km² than dessert; tundra has less biodiversity than any rainforest. If there is nothing to eat, why should any being evolve and undergo niche partitioning?

[@karibui494]

@@irrelevantirrelevant7332 but rainforests are nutrient deficient that is why they are so biodiverse. Extreme environmental conditions are not the same a nutrient availability.

[@ItzRetz]

This has really inspired me, I'd love to get into the Aquaculture industry and change the world for the better.

[@JG-zu5wc]

Fucking 6 minutes before the intro is playing. I’m hooked. This guy knows how to make content. This channel is amazing. Well done.

[@Dslayer62]

Videos like this are important, it raises awareness of the issue and their solutions. Thanks.

[@stephenpickering8063]

Is 't there a problem that as you said the wider oceans are basically deserts. Even molluscs need something to feed on and if there's no/not enough nutrients then - other than importing large amounts to feed the crops won't this face a serious problem? Also what about storms, shipping lanes, possibly even piracy if it does start becoming practical? Not to mention how practical would the sort of vertical farming your proposing be in the deeper oceans rather than on the continental shelves? Furthermore fish farms have faced problems not just with the pollution some of them generate but, as frequently monocultures being vulnerable to diseases and pests? I'm not saying there isn't scope for a lot of food here but you do seem to be overlooking a lot of potential problems.

[@sietuuba]

You are correct about the desert part - and there's a solution to that as well. Those regions of the deep ocean shown on the map are deserts due to no upwelling of nutrient rich water from the deep and that can also be produced artificially. It would then support the base of the food pyramid, the plankton. Look up "marine permaculture", which shows promise in both creating new hotspots of ocean life where none existed as well as restoring existing biomes impacted by marine heat waves thanks to the cooling effect of upwelling cool water from the deep. Dr. Brian von Herzen is one name to search for; there are a couple of videos on KZbin about their work.

[@sietuuba]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2m1oJ2Hj8emeJo Here's one.

[@deharudragonsoul6238]

@@sietuuba there is another, more worrying way to look about this though. The deep sea ecosystem relies on a different baseline compared to the rest of the ocean, marine snow (the dead of surface animals and plants washed in by currents) rather than plankton (zoo and phyto). We haven't explored these areas yet due to depth and light issues, so we don't know what exactly is going on down there. Due to lantern fish we can estimate that the deep sea is taking care of around half of our current carbon emissions, so messing with that system when we don't know how it works yet could lead to a worsening of the global warming situation. Cause think about it, if the disposal method of something is disabled somehow it builds up more quickly. Honestly, this plus the artificial greenhouse gas (sorry can't remember its name right now) created by solar energy systems makes me think that any effort we currently are making to save the planet is actually harmful.

[@mrnnhnz]

"....sort of vertical farming YOU'RE proposing..." Sorry to be pedantic, but spelling and grammar matter. Getting them wrong could undercut the point you're trying to make.

[@stephenpickering8063]

@@sietuuba OK thanks. I will try and have a look at that video.

[@animeyahallo3887]

Great time to end my stressful day. Thank you for this one Atlas.

[@johankvistrad]

This needs to be discussed more! Great video!

[@TimZoet]

My only concern is the amount of microplastics in the ocean. Fish will be filled with it, clams and mussels will also filter those out of the water. I would love this idea if our oceans were clean, but the amount of microplastics in the water makes it a problem for me.

[@navry01]

2:00 that graph is ABOMINABLE. Bottom-to-top 26-to-44%? yuck

[@doylethelovely2555]

He didn’t talk about ras systems. Recirculating our culture is becoming one of the more popular methods for fish species because it’s cheaper and keeps in a lot of control over the fishers environment

[@dallasweaver4061]

RAS is also very energy-intensive and is not cheaper. China's new approach of massive offshore ship type structures may be far more economical.

[@soviettankmen]

as the previous commenter said, RAS is not a cheap aquaculture method, but definitely control many parameter such as water quality and disease

[@dallasweaver4061]

@@soviettankmen Yes, RAS will give control over water chemistry and is the way to go for hatcheries to produce the fingerlings to stock into ocean net pen-type system. With full zero discharge RAS you can locate near the workboat base the offshore systems. In RAS you can go "specific pathogen-free" SPF operation to keep down disease issues. Getting pathogens out of RAS is a lot harder than preventing them from coming in.

[@CyPorter]

I didn't know this was a thing. Thank you!

[@_ADHK293A_]

Woaaah!! Súper Cool ! Thank you for this !! I will use this info, you're the best!

[@nickpaschentis5284]

7:52 Atlas: Let's take our Farms and puss them somewhere else. Alaskan Bull Worm:Am I a Joke to you?

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Revolution? Comrades why did you have a Revolution without me? Lol

[@cheesedmacaroni]

We are still waiting on the _Red_ Revolution comrade

[@dorian4646]

Let's farm fish then!

[@helltubejackie1086]

Ya man, for communism to work everyone needs to work together globally and go to socialism, then abolish the state and bring in communism

[@Xaiff]

@@helltubejackie1086 No, comerade. There must be a "state" in communism. Otherwise how would we enforce to share our resources? :D

[@helltubejackie1086]

@@Xaiff ah comrade, communism is supposed to be a stateless, classless, moneyless, society where the workers own the means of production, as I have been told by countless other communist friends :D

[@itsguanyu]

In case you ever read this. I would like to hear your thoughts on vertical farming and why it is that you apparently think it's no solution at all. Thanks for the video and maybe until soon. ✌️

[@Peleski]

I think the obvious is that consumable plants need a full day of sunshine. Even if you move stuff about to get sunlight, the output will be terrible.

[@igavinwood]

Absolutely brilliant video. Education and edification on how the world, the only one we can exist on, is impacted and can be utilised is so needed. Thank you for researching, creating and sharing.

[@mjk9388]

Fantastic video. I do think Mollusk, Kelp and Seaweed is a good option from both a feed to protein ratio, space and resource input perspective. However, fish farms use floating pelletized food that is typically made of fish oil, fish meal, wheat gluten, lupin meal and soya protein (soy isolate) concentrate. So you're going to be feeding all those increased numbers of farmed fish by farming the ocean even harder and using more land grains and legumes...and then transporting all that pelletized food out to the deep sea cages (energy/resource intensive). Also, if Mollusks feed on Algae and other particulates in the ocean, then how will they find those particulates in the deep sea deserts where biology is scarce? Seems like both the mollusks, kelp and seaweed farms would have to be in areas where there's already a diverse amount of life to support their needs? Please don't take these two points as disparaging remarks, I do think this is a great and informative video and you've definitely gained another subscriber!

[@songyu1356]

Hello, I'm a Marine Sciences student. Not sure about the fish farms part (not an Aquaculture student), but mollusks, kelp and seaweed can actually be grown in polluted waters because they can purify water by converting the waste into nutrients for their own need. There has been quite a number of amazing discoveries of the incredible ability of oysters to filter water. So not only could they function as a food source, they could also help to restore clean seas and rivers! the academia had also agreed that we should promote an eating culture that focuses lower on the food chain - shellfishes and seaweed/kelp, as a strategy to tackle climate change and solve water crisis.

[@grammadog1947]

Interesting and, on the surface of it (lol), a solution. There will be things to work out as with every new technology, but yeah, interesting...

[@noah22261]

Great ideas but I’d be concerned about the adverse affects of consuming chemicals and micro plastics from the ocean.

[@BrowncoatGofAZ]

Unfortunately that can only be avoided by addressing that topic directly.

[@sunlynnhatchett3983]

Imagine in 50 years where the average dinner is salmon and rice, while stuff like pork or steak is for the rich.

[@eostyrwinn5018]

Given what's currently going on, I feel like it's also worth pointing out that the odds of a disease jumping to humans from aquatic life is much lower than from current livestock. Thus reducing the risk of a new disease or another pandemic. I'm also curious about how ocean currents affect this. While the farms might be located in areas of minimal bio productivity, surely the waste could still be carried on currents to areas of more vulnerable ecosystems. Do the currents provide enough time to dissipate the waste before it's dangerous (in which case wouldn't scaling this up cause a problem)? Or is there some other reason this isn't an issue? Or is it really an issue?

[@oliverhunter3015]

This is where molluscs come in. As filter feeders they actually clean the water. Oysters and muscles are currently being reintroduced to the Hudson River to help clean the water

[@eostyrwinn5018]

@@oliverhunter3015 Oh cool. I live near the Hudson River but I didn't know how they were cleaning it. Thanks!

[@memeboi6017]

idea Make a giant rubber net . Fill it with water , then put in fish

[@lindatullos9430]

@@oliverhunter3015 Just don't eat the mollusks. Other fish that we might eat will eat the mollusks and thus the concentration of contaminants will be more for us. The best thing to do is let them clean the water and remove them periodically when they get to a size. The larger fish that eat them should be avoided by fishermen until the waters are certified clean again. Rice also absorbs contaminants so planting those (not for consumption) and removing them periodically would also help. Once again the larger animals that consume rice would be concentrating the contaminants in their bodies so eating anything from the polluted river is not a good idea.

[@larrian3846]

While I don't disagree that livestock land use is absolutely an issue, a lot of the land used to house cattle and other livestock really cannot be used for low-impact crops. For example, here in Australia, there a huge swathes of land the size of US states that are used as cattle ranches that absolutely could not be used for most crops. So unfortunately it isn't always that simple.

[@DepServ]

Interesting point, thank you for mentioning it

[@tiely13]

Sadly, most problems and their solutions are never simple.

[@lif3andthings763]

Grazing is good for the environment and can stop desertification

[@dolphindiverbct8297]

@@lif3andthings763 but not overgrazing which is happening in lots of livestock farms

[@CODENAMEDERPY]

@@dolphindiverbct8297 that is true but all small farmers and most big farmers wouldn’t do that because it is bad for them in the long run.

[@Scott-xx6ib]

Keep up the good work! I gotta say you’re my favorite KZbinr!

[@aronmo2755]

My dad (engineer) used to work on the development of kelp farms in Norway. I truly belive going in this direction with our food production would work out!

[@thomasboyd1402]

Wait, of the 18 minute video, 6 minutes is the intro? Damn, that's some devotion to setting the scene.. :D

[@elbobosan2]

The comparison of our fishing practices to hunter gatherer practices was eye opening.

[@SpeedOfTheEarth]

Indeed

[@saintarj4552]

bro that intro gave me more info than 80% of other youtube vids

[@DanRegueira]

Do a video on why I'm really naive for liking vertical farming, cause I think it's cool AF

[@zack7122]

kelp forests are freaking beautiful!!!! if i was a mermaid i'd love going there 🥺🌱🌿

[@nicktorr7888]

Until a shark takes a chunk out of you

[@emperorpierogi9772]

Just be a fish, dunno

[@ohnowhy700]

Yes! I'm so happy you're back!

[@galactyx1]

Truly outstanding piece of work. Glad the algorithm flagged this up. Well done!

[@Shurkan2]

nice, we need this. thanks for sharing

[@topperharley8322]

Thanks for another great video, looking forward to you hitting the million subs early in 2021.

[@JastwatchingYT]

we had the green revolution we will have the blue revolution and the red revolution would be for mars! (not to be confused with the red revolution in russia and china)

[@darekmistrz4364]

I prefer to name it orange revolution (not to be confused with president Trump)

[@El-s]

Commie Mars

[@gabrielandradeferraz386]

well, there is a reason why they call it the red planet

[@sonyakii]

Consider the following The planetary revolution

[@oliverhunter3015]

Well capitalism requires infinite growth sooo maybe we do need that red revolution... Also why go to mars when we can't even look after the earth?

[@selfimprovement8531]

Great video!! Thank you for sharing!

[@coleodonnell9942]

Thank you so much for making this video. My essay wrote itself because of you.

[@ldelgg]

whys this the only hearted comment and why did it have 0 likes

[@calimerohnir3311]

You seem pretty skeptical on "vertical farming". Have you made a video on the subject? If not, do you plan on expanding further on the subject down the line?

[@benedict6962]

Yeah I was surprised at the quick and brutal dismissal. I'm guessing it's due to the ultimate input and output of the process. Vertical farming at their best can more efficiently consume water, but that's a high precision operation and very vulnerable to people doing a bad job. Replacing soil with fertilizer may consume even more minerals than the traditional method, and if you stick to soil than you are necessarily digging up vast quantities of soil from fertile lands, causing untold erosion effects. All of that to save some space. We become able to make use of more of the earth's soil at the same time, but none of that deals with what happens if we DEPLETE all of the earth's soil at the same time. We don't have a similarly scalable livestock poop generator.

[@ddlc_monika]

@@benedict6962 the problems are plentiful. Not only are we running out of phosphorus and nitrates anyways, there's also the issue of vertical farms being impossible to get well-distributed sunlight on. So that would have to be artificial, scale that up and you'll need another nuclear power plant for your country, not that desireable.

[@majorfallacy5926]

Vertical farming depends on green electricity sources we currently don't have and it's economically only somewhat viable for leafy greens at this point. It will probably become more popular just cause it's cool and nice to have fresh produce produced locally, but it won't solve our farting cows problem

[@yeetdeets]

​@@benedict6962 No, plants can't use the whole spectrum of sun light, so the loss in [sun light -> solar panel -> LED -> food] compared to [sun light -> food] is much smaller than people think. With more maturity in panel and LED technologies, they will increase energy efficiency over traditional farming. The real potential though, lies in total control. Measurement of plant productivity, soil humidity, fertilizer supplementation, temperature, light spectrum exposure, timing of all the above, etc. Put all that data into a machine learning model and you have magic. Maximizing the nicotine content in tobacco for example. Soil can be created from air and fertilizer. It's just decayed plant matter with some microbes in it, carbon comes from the air and the rest from the fertilizer. The real soil killer is traditional farming. Especially in the arid regions, they basically put seeds in clay and fertilizer.

[@JoJoKaiser1504]

One of the most interesting edutainment videos i've seen so far. What an amazing topic and amazing execution. S Tier Video

[@groetjesuitdehel]

This vid's really damn good! Thank you

[@mattvoelker241]

You said your self we're currently in a food surplus. The issue is transportation and storage. Farmers were throwing out milk because it was cheaper than storing/transporting it. Both problems need to be solved, and moving farms to the ocean just means more boats going around. I don't worry about humanity running out of problems to solve. There will always be more problems, as every new solution brings forth more issues.

[@luca920]

3:28 this chart made me flip my table

[@oliverhunter3015]

So fucked! Using 77% of agricultural land for 18% of our daily calories (37% of our protein). We need to stop eating meat! (Once not completely as animal by products are crucial for sustainable farming)

[@irasponsibly]

six minutes in before we got the intro? damn

[@crackedemerald4930]

What's this? Answers with Joe?

[@elliottstirrop4353]

i legit thought i’d skipped the video and tried to go back hahaha

[@EcuadorianFlagShip]

that's when you know it's gonna be f ucking good

[@vodafoneuser1690]

What's your problem? Didn't get the condensed 30sec Instagram-Reel you hoped for? You got six minutes of informative content that you simply badmouth lol

[@irasponsibly]

@@vodafoneuser1690 calm your farm dude, it wasn't a complaint

[@stevenclark2188]

One thing growing livestock is good for is replenishing salted ground. Apparently alfalfa soaks up salt from soil with all that extra water it requires.

[@potatoboris1534]

This is such an interesting subject that we are approaching. Great video!!!

[@DangerB0ne]

I'll eat more seafood, I refuse to eat bugs. Miss me with that cricket flour.

[@jgr7487]

so you won't eat shrimps? arthropods are arthropods

[@DangerB0ne]

@@jgr7487 Crustaceans are fine, insects and arachnids aren't.

[@ANTSEMUT1]

@@DangerB0ne lol.

[@DangerB0ne]

@Hunter Smith "Sea bugs" are distinct enough from land bugs for me not to care as much. I'll eat bivalves, octopus, and squid but not snails despite all of them being molluscs. Clams=food, snail=garden fauna/pest. Like many people, I associate insects with filth. Local restaurant got shut down by the health inspector? Probably roaches contaminating food. If you want to brave that "new protein source", be my guest. I'd rather not eat things I associate with disease and uncleanliness. It's the same reason I don't eat rats despite them being mammals like pigs, sheep, and cows. Rats are plague-bearers, the rest are tasty.

[@tylerprow7563]

Something that is frequently neglected to be mentioned in comparisons of land use for animal vs. plant agriculture is that the vast majority of land area used to raise livestock is rangeland that is too arid or nutrient poor for growing traditional traditional crops. Raising animals like cattle on range also has a lower ecological impact on the native biological community than converting land to monocultured cropland. Of course, this is if sustainable agricultural practices are followed, which is often not the case (like raising beef on cleared rainforest ground in Brazil)

[@peterisawesomeplease]

"majority of land area used to raise livestock is rangeland that is too arid or nutrient poor for growing traditional traditional crops" This is super misleading. Most of the calories those livestock eat don't come from the nutrient poor arid land they live on. Most of their calories come from farmed crops(grain and hey from more productive regions). Brazil is not being deforested primarily to raise cattle directly. It is being deforested to make room to grow soy that is then fed to American cows. If people ate less meat not only would we free up the low productivity land they often live on but it would free up all the crop land used to feed them. Most crop land is used to feed animals. Only a little bit is used to feed people directly.

[@ThreeRunHomer]

Good point. And if the livestock operation uses permaculture techniques and moves the livestock daily, the arid grassland ecosystem can actually be greatly improved.

[@dru4670]

@@ThreeRunHomer as an African I can tell you. Let the cows range. It's just natural. The whole monocrop thing is so inefficient I don't know why it even survives. That's how bison grazed for the longest time in the great American plains. That's how animals graze. It's just natural and in the end they fertilise the soil with their natural manure. The whole system is in check. Only issue is looking out for predators that prey on the livestock.

[@dru4670]

@@peterisawesomeplease to add on my note. They were millions of bison capable of feeding the American population in a sustainable way for the longest time. Before they were all hunted unsustainably to extinction.

[@peterisawesomeplease]

@@dru4670 Bison can sustain a few million people but will 300 million people demanding meat it does not work. You simply can't generate enough calories without juicing the system with irrigation and artificial nitrogen. The conversion factors between grass and humans are like 100 to 1 using bison/cattle. There were never 300 million bison predators.

[@rokonjoko5575]

The longest but fun intro in history of intros

[@nealthomson9505]

I recently read an article on fish farms that are big round ball shaped nets that start off in south america with little baby fish and then they are left to float in the ocean bellow the surface of the water. The big "ball nets" float in the current and as they travel up north towards Europe, the fish waste products dont pile up and polute the farms or even cause the fish any harm with disease or parasites. The farms are not totally hands off. There is a boat that tags along and it monitors the health of the fish as well as they feed the fish what ever tgwy may need for optimal growth and health. By the time that the "ball net farms" reach europe. The fish have grown to "pan size" and are ready for harvesting. I suppose this is when the nets are filled with little fish again and it is sent back out to sea with a new school of fish that will grow up in the open ocean in the cleanest and best possible water. What was also noticed as a by the by, by the scientists is the fact that the "ball net farm" created a kind of floating habitat for all kinds of other sea creatures. Not even because of nutrients and food but mostly just by creating shade and a place for the smaller creatures. In fact anything that floats on the water. Smaller sea creatures make a hime out of it as soon as possible. It has been documented on pieces of old broken netting and buoys and any other polution out there. . . . . I hope and pray that we as stewards of this planet take this information and that we use it for the benifit of all. I pray that we are in time to start to fix what we as well as our ancestors have done a right propper job of messing up TGC Blessings in abundance :)

[@Red_crane]

The y-axis not going to 0 at 2:00 is somewhat misleading. It suggests at a quick glance that the % is almost 0 in 2020

[@saims.2402]

Yeah, I thought it went to 0 until I read your comment and saw the 26 on the side.

[@nineteenlettersonly9687]

Idk when I was watching it I got exactly what he meant since he did say the percentages out loud

[@OADINC]

I agree its not the best implementation, maybe add a wiggly line at the bottom to show that it's not 0?

[@Nicoconuts63]

he probably did this on purpose, for a next video or something like that

[@filip9564]

Yup. Miss represented statistics are a big problem. He probably didnt mean to do it but still, it is a problem.

[@ArcticStrokes34]

Changing peoples eating habits will be a challenge too. Getting a larger middle class to move away from steaks and burgers to choose fish won't be easy when its still relatively cheap for the consumer to be fussy and wasteful with their diets

[@likira111]

Long time vegetarian here, tell me about it....

[@JesusSanchez-ul1qq]

Men, you have really read my thoughts. And elaborated! Thanks.

[@nevadareno5752]

TBH I think that this will help only if the EPA doesn't think it's harmful to the environment, at this point we need people to share this with politicians so that they can understand the problem at hand

[@BoWSkittlez]

Misleading graph at 2:00. The y-axis doesnt start at 0, just so you all know

[@RonDe675]

Its not misleading. He literally says the percent it drops down to if you were paying attention

[@BoWSkittlez]

@@RonDe675 I disagree. It's just honest graph-making not to be misleading to your audiences. By that standard, I could show a picture of a turtle but as long as I say it's actually a blue sky one, I'm fine. Also, what about the hearing-impaired viewers who can only see the graph? Graphs are exclusively visual conveyors of information. To have to correct it by explanation defeats the purpose.

[@WanderTheNomad]

@@BoWSkittlez I agree with you about trying your best not to show misleading graphs to your audience, but that point about hearing-impaired viewers seems kinda irrelevant since captions are enabled for this video.

[@BoWSkittlez]

@@WanderTheNomad *luckily* there are captions to the video.

[@Wustenfuchs109]

It is a nice idea... except when you realize that all our waste ends up in the ocean one way or the other. Fish already have a worryingly high amounts of mercury and other crap in them, and as the time goes on, oceans will be polluted more and more. While we have some idea how to clean up the land and air, cleaning up oceans is a bit of a problem. And when you move an industrial scale food production into the ocean, an already polluted area, you will further increase pollution rates. I mean, yes, due to the sheer volume of water, it is the best option as it has the most capacity for pollution, but all our crap goes there. All chemicals, industrial waste, everything. I don't think that will be the way the food production will go. It requires the construction of huge infrastructure projects, in remote and hostile areas, with dubious legal status, even longer logistics chain... Simply put, it will be really hard to get anyone behind it in on a level that matters. In the same way that vertical farming in cities is kinda cool, but it is a luxury thing, not a future of agriculture.

[@Herghun]

Some fish have a tendency to store high amounts of heavy metal because of their organism but they will store such amount of metal only if they are exposed too much to it. They don't produce metals by them selves only stars do that.

[@Wustenfuchs109]

@@Herghun I didn't say that they produce it :D But the very fact that they act as sponges for various chemicals and elements found in the water where all our garbage, waste and pollution goes eventually, is not a good thing. It is not a dynamic system in the sense that the oceans return all that to us, they are the end stop and thus are more polluted every year.

[@mando_gra]

I'd be curious to know why vertical farming will remain a luxury in your eyes. because of high initial building/development costs ?

[@cwillis92]

Watching birds think they've found the ultimate buffet just to be denied entry from the Ultimate Bouncer we humans call a net 😂

[@deltainfinium869]

Great vid, useful information, and yes more people need to know.

[@Leolocke1]

This seems great, but there's a lot of questions left unanswered still. 1. What about people who despise seafood? Sure, most people will eat seafood, but the vast majority of people will take a hamburger or steak over tuna any day. 2. There's tons of microplastics in all of our oceans at the moment, and we don't really know the outcome of consuming plastics on a regular basis yet. I assume it's not in any way positive. 3. Wouldn't moving the majority of our food supply to the oceans lead to overfishing etc.? (which btw. is already a problem in some parts of the world) I honestly don't see people ever abandoning taco, burgers, steak and the other delicious meatbased foods at any point in history. The only thing I believe in is cultured meat/lab grown. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH PEAS made into "meat". Whenever they can mass produce cultured meat and have it taste as good as pork, regular agriculture (on land) as we know it today will cease to exist.

[@jamaly77]

We actually know the outcome of consuming plastics, just not in humans. Great comment btw.

[@Herghun]

I think what's most interesting here is the abilisty to produce plants to feed animal on land.

[@Tuanry]

6 minutes intro... 👏👏

[@The_Cat_Princess]

This video was very interesting to me because I am now thinking of becoming a fisherman and starting a mussel farm. In Japan, there are only a few places where the waves are calm, such as inlets and bays, and there was no space to cultivate mussels in these limited spaces.

[@rjschroeders726]

When you talk about 18% of our calorie supply coming from meat and 82% coming from plants does the meat category take into account animal byproducts or was it assumed plants take up the rest? Livestock typically accounts for both animals being farmed for byproducts as well as for meat.

[@victorpisarev7768]

In the light of multiple facts of poisoning the oceans, I'm really concerned by the incredibly high risk of consuming these food products.

[@LukeTEvans]

the ocean is so deep and so huge you might as well fearing breathing just as much

[@oliverhunter3015]

Also growing molluscs (not for consumption) in our river mouths will help mitigate most, if not all biological pollution. Thus keeping the oceans cleaner.

[@rj5848]

The world we are going to have blue revolution People: oh blue I think that would be a cool revolution Vegan:Nothing special for us Sea creatures :😭😭

[@Xaiff]

Some people: How would this Blue Revolution differs from the Red Revolution?

[@LordButtersI]

Even vegans can benefit from ocean-grown crops.

[@JastwatchingYT]

sea creatures should be happy because they won't be hunted to extinction!

[@lolcano2346]

@@JastwatchingYT yeah but their ecosystems will be even more upturned than they already are. There are many, many, many problems with the idea of blue revolution for ocean ecosystems

[@JastwatchingYT]

@@lolcano2346 The whole point of the blue revolution is that it takes place in the open ocean, the place with the least amount of life..

[@Mrparsa83]

Dude truly an inspiration, Very informative and complete. I thank you for you great desire and fantastic job. Well done 👍👍 ( hope to see 1M subs )

[@diemattekanzlei9124]

“Let’s take our farms and push them somewhere else” I appreciated that

[@landon2614]

Your videos are really ducking good

[@pastrychefiii822]

Well u are BIG BRAIN

[@patrikfigo]

That 6 minute intor tho :O

[@generik7414]

Dang, never knew complex irrigation systems were recent, considering they've been a thing for literally thousands of years

[@kingmasterlord]

starlink telepresence robots could run fish farms while scooping out plastic to feed 3D printers to make replacement parts for themselves. seems like a great concept for a trial run of seasteading too

[@CODENAMEDERPY]

Atlas left out the fact that 20% of the emissions by Agriculture, Forestry, And Other Land Use was sequestered by those plants. It says it in the EPA reference that he sites. As well as the fact that it wasn’t just agriculture but all uses of land that that pie chart references.

[@lolcano2346]

Interesting. Also doesn't really talk about how irrigation is more of a problem for the growing of crops than for grass. Grass is one of the hardiest plants on Earth and will still grow with less water than pretty much any crop out there.

[@lyreparadox]

Nor does he mention that of the 77% of land used to raise livestock, a significant portion isn't useable for growing modern crops anyway (too dry, remote, or rugged).

[@hajomusic9890]

@@lyreparadox same thought here. im not sure about this one but given the amount of energy it takes to make 1kg of cow meat is pretty high; is the demand met with mostly grasses and hay right? These are also often farmed on lands unsuitable for crops.

[@eilovechiken]

This comment only serves the algorithm.

[@AtlasPro1]

I appreciate it

[@siriusk1453]

Wh

[@EcuadorianFlagShip]

bump

[@BaenjaminS]

This one does too

[@supremememersnoke7350]

This one as well.

[@chavezrodriguezbarbarailia6900]

I download that paper first... and at the end of the video you talked about it jajaja. How awesome. I´m studying marine biology and I´m seriously thinking on making a master or something about this topic... Thanks, love the video

[@GamingMuchTerry]

Really interesting. I had no idea about the blue revolution before watching this.