What is the creepiest missing person case in history?

[@chainsawleg]

if u pin me u dont eat drywal

[@dyalisix]

sigma

[@chainsawleg]

@@dyalisix frfr

[@Fade_NB]

I eat the pink cotton candy behind the drywall

[@Agent_Aye11]

Nobody cares about an insignificant achievement that you shouldn't have earned. I don't understand why KZbinrs pin annoying kids.

[@chainsawleg]

​@@Agent_Aye11 no one cares about ur opinion about how annoying i am, and if im annoying just ignore it

[@subliminal-damage]

The one where OP addresses if the killer might be reading their post and asks for them to just tell them where her body is because they want her back made me sob unexpectedly. Dear god.

[@lovely.l1ls]

almost crying just hearing it

[@nannostanfr]

So real.

[@spiral5692]

It's abhorrent that an AI voice trawling *Reddit* comments can push emotional moments, or try and pass judgement

[@9eishitasharma501]

@@spiral5692 my brother in christ this is his actual voice

[@DG_Toti]

@@spiral5692oh no, a real person whose voice is only *slightly* monotonous? ‘Pushing’ emotional moments involving a person missing their likely murdered friend? Perish the thought that someone reading these could have empathy, preposterous, nothing ever actually happens if someone makes a comment about it on the internet, everyone is just an attention-seeking basement-dweller like me!

[@Oddballkane]

The woman who claimed her child had been taken by a dingo. Everyone thought she had unalived her own kid and even spent time in prison for this. Then, a few years ago, a hunter found a dingo den, and near the den was some childens clothes that matched what the child had last been wearing. People take the mick now.

[@jamieweatherwalk2752]

I can't believe they convicted her on no evidence! I'm so glad she got out!

[@JoshSweetvale]

​@@jamieweatherwalk2752Too late. Also, she wasn't just convicted, she's still mocked today as an Australian 'redneck' archetype.

[@corinnsolara9821]

​@@jamieweatherwalk2752 It's a little less straightforward than it seems. Like, a test done on the family's car showed the interior had been covered in blood... but it turns out that was a false positive, some other substance had set it off. The baby's name was Azaria Chamberlain, for those who want to look it up.

[@cthonisprincess4011]

⁠@@corinnsolara9821It was copper oxide dust- the Chamberlains lived in the mining town of Mount Isa in Queensland. One of the scientists for the defence believed that the chemical used to claim that blood in the car was faulty, so he went to Mount Isa and walked the streets, taking samples in various locations. Every place he tested returned positive, proving that the chemical was faulty.

[@abbienicholson6022]

@@cthonisprincess4011holy crap, that’s actually insane 😳 that poor mother 😢

[@GiordanDiodato]

Timmothy Pitzen. Kid gets taken out of school by mom, doesn't tell dad, goes on the run, mom stops at hotel and unalives herself in bathroom with no kid and a note saying she is sorry for everything and kid will never be found

[@lydiapetra1211]

I remember that story....so very heartbreaking..

[@GiordanDiodato]

​@@lydiapetra1211 A lot of people think she killed him.

[@lydiapetra1211]

@@GiordanDiodato That's what I think too...I don't think she sold him..

[@killermfkaty]

When I first heard of this case, I hoped she did "adopt him out" however learning of the mom's history, that's very doubtful. I believe she unalived him, then herself to harm the dad and his family.

[@charliekezza]

The mother was so cruel to leave the father with questions forever.

[@steviebeevie]

6:13 the fact that this baby's backpack was found buried and wrapped in plastic makes me sick, its obvious someone did something to her bc items dont bury themselves

[@captainidiot4301]

Fuckin how do you explain fossils? Things absolutely do bury themselves.

[@leahinshade]

​@@captainidiot4301fair, but they tend to NOT wrap themselves up in plastic beforehand;)

[@cakez1515]

@@captainidiot4301bro that is not relevant

[@Caffeinated-DaVinci]

@@captainidiot4301 False equivalency and a bad faith argument when you know exactly what they meant. Of course things are buried by the wind naturally over time, we all know that. Things don't often wrap themselves in multiple layers of plastic because of the wind. The wind doesn't bury the only known belongings of a missing girl directly around where she was last seen alive. The wind usually doesn't bury things a foot deep in only a few months. And all of these things happening together sure as hell don't happen coincidentally. But this comment implies you weren't just being contrarian to make a null point, which you absolutely were.

[@_random_o.o2302]

​@captainidiot4301 fossils don't "bury" themselves though, things die and fall into mud/bog/silt or have debris build up and decay over many years resulting in the object being covered from the elements and slowly replaced with minerals leaving behind an imprint of whatever originally was covered (usually plants/animal remains). Something being wrapped in plastic and intentionally buried underground is extremely different to an animal naturally being covered after they pass away

[@bentonrp]

The first ones are of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. The creepiest one I ever heard of was one of a family who got a phone call from the University their daughter applied to. She got accepted, and since she was a foreign enrolled student, the University had her chartered on a flight from the airport. When she got to the airport, representatives were waiting there to escort her to the University. She went with them, thrilled to start her new life. Weeks passed and the family she said bye to didn't hear from her. They contacted the University, who told the family she was never enrolled to attend there. They never heard from her again. And that was that.

[@steviebeevie]

This screams trafficking

[@bentonrp]

@@steviebeevie absolutely :(

[@tamsel814]

It seems unlikely to me that any university arranges flights for international students. That's a big red flag. Poor girl

[@M00N_MEGADEATH]

​@@steviebeevieslavery is just as common as it was back then its just well hidden

[@ximenapaola0]

But she never enrolled meaning she knows what she was getting herself into. Sorta. Unless that was a lie she was told to say to her family? Do you know her name?

[@lebitelexie9350]

About little Asha's story, I am 100% sure that someone was not honest with their side of the story. The story of shy, reclusive kid just deciding to go for a late night trip in conditions that would otherwise freak her out to the core? Naah. Someone in that story has dirt on them but they decided to cover it up. Its like some of those Missing 411 stories where kids went missing and the parents come up with stories like "Oh I only took my eyes off from him for a spare second" yeah no, guarantee that they forgot about the kid for solid minutes or more and come up with parts of the story that lifts any speck of possible blame from them.

[@hburke45]

Something does seem weird about it. Especially how the OP was dead set on making sure the reader knew she was super sheltered, to the point where they were trying way too hard to sound believable. Obviously it's probably the story that they heard and has been told but if that's they way the family told it, I'd be super suspicious.

[@ThunderStruck15]

​@hburke45 alternatively, she was abused to be that sheltered and controlled. She just escaped.

[@lebitelexie9350]

@@ThunderStruck15 Honestly, that is a plausible angle and ties in well with what I said. Painting the family soo "saintly" (Lack of better words, its 3am) made me wonder if they treated that poor girl soo horrible that she decided to flee.

[@hburke45]

@@ThunderStruck15 I was also thinking along those lines too. Sadly, if there's abuse in a household and being so sheltered those kids often go unnoticed and if they're being abused, there would be very few who'd notice and report it due to being extremely sheltered 😢

[@CinderXiaoLong]

What struck me as odd was that they knew everyone she talked to, and everyone was accounted for It's highly likely that she was talking to someone who convinced her to keep it secret, or it was the father who got up to check on his children

[@arashi32900]

The disappearance of Louis Le Prince. Believed to have shot the first ever film and is regarded as the father of cinematography. Disappeared after boarding a train in 1890 to return to Paris after visiting his brother in Dijon. He was apparently planning to return to the United States to rejoin his wife and children, publicly premiere his work and file for a copyright for it. He never arrived in Paris and was never seen again after boarding that train. One of the leading theories, and the one I personally believe in, is that Thomas Edison had him murdered to prevent him from patenting his technology first. Especially since Le Prince's eldest son, Adolph Le Prince, was found dead near Fire Island near New York in 1901, having testified as a witness in a case by the American Mutoscope Company which was seeking to annul Edison's patents claiming to have invented the first moving picture, using Le Prince's work as proof that this was not true. Adolph was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head. The 'official' verdict was he killed himself. I think Edison had him murdered as well. The man was well known to have hired thugs to harass and beat his competition and to file countless lawsuits to ruin them. I well believe he was capable of murder.

[@Oddballkane]

He did torture an elephant with electricity, I think, killing the elephant to show how powerful it is. It's not that hard to think he would be capable of doing things like that

[@SewardWriter]

Edison was a piece of work. He's only remembered fondly because he he had the money to buy good PR.

[@SewardWriter]

​@@OddballkaneTopsy. She, and possibly hundreds of dogs and cars, were electrōcuted because Edison wanted to destroy Tesla's alternating current.

[@sheriwolkins8685]

The bar jona story was very disturbing but…. Was this in the US? Because there IS no statute of limitations on murder and kidnap.

[@thejourney1369]

I have heard this theory and totally agree with it.

[@wiggwigg12]

I live half an hour from Delphi. The two girls killed were found and now years later they have someone in custody. We are all eagerly awaiting the trial to nail the SOB

[@watchingfiremagick]

There are multiple involved, including the Odinist police.

[@IndigoCave28]

There is way more to that story than simply trying a man and locking him up. More people are involved in the whole thing

[@stinky-smelly]

RIP Abby and Libby.

[@jamesknapp64]

He was arrested in 22 and two years later still havent had a trial date.

[@Sunsetdreamer0]

As of today he was found guilty on all charges... but something doesn't add up when you look at all the info.

[@holahellomarhabahi2040]

51:30. I grew up in PA. I'll lay it out for you all. Jerry Sandusky was a *BELOVED*, we're talking hero-worship level, Pennsylvanians are obsessed with Penn State and Penn State football, coach. He'd been molesting and worse his players for years and the school and other coaches knew. They covered it up for years. It's actually very likely if the lawyer in that story was looking into Sandusky that he got in over his head and someone ended him, just to protect the p.o.s. kid diddling coach.

[@MacabreMortality]

I grew up in PA too and remember the whole Jerry Sandusky case too! Also what happened to poor Jennifer Dougherty too.

[@GiordanDiodato]

I thought the lawyer was defending Sandusky?

[@outlawjar01]

Negative, the lawyer was an ADA… which was more shocking that it was keep quiet

[@scrumpcity]

@@MacabreMortalityUgh Jennifers story breaks my heart. Drive by the school lot they left her body almost every day. At the very least, three judges just rejected the one killers request to overturn her conviction to receive less time. I honestly don’t think any of the 6 are going to see the outside of a prison ever again, especially since two are on death row.

[@joyousdog1]

I'm somewhat surprised by the possibility that people outside of PA haven't heard of Sandusky. One of the people who helped to cover up for him (allegedly 🙄 ) is Jim Jordan, the disgusting congressman from Ohio, and his connection to it all gets mentioned pretty frequently.

[@stickman17]

That story about the disappearing roommate almost sounds like a psychotic episode that resolved itself. The brain can do WILD things sometimes, and then just... be fine again. I saw a video recently of one guy who has schizophrenia and sees people when there isn't a person. So he got a service dog that greets people. And he'll point and the dog will bark if there's actually a person. And won't if not. So... there's just some guy in his kitchen. That he now knows isn't real. But his brain has put there.

[@shanayazaveri2620]

Why is our own mind the scariest thing to exist? I hope the guy with his dog has some sort of sense of security for him

[@toonahaf]

wow that’s sick :0

[@billbombshiggy9254]

That's amazing about the service dog. That's really cool.

[@alliekat1431]

That’s kinda what I thought… I’m a little surprised OP didn’t get a suggestion to talk to a doctor / therapist or smth about this…

[@rosswalenciak3739]

Yeah I was thinking that. Especially since every outside source shows the person not existing. Like, why would the University just delete her records overnight? The only arguable one is that OP had checks from her roommate's parents, but OP could have made those in a psychotic episode as well.

[@lunariian]

I feel like burying Asha's backpack in two trash bags was an attempt to hide the scent from police dogs which makes me think foul play. Her story never made sense and bothered me until someone said it's much more likely that she never left her house and something happened there.

[@fleetwoodmak777]

how many people claimed to have seen her walking though?

[@lciav]

@@fleetwoodmak777 it might not have been her. Who can say?

[@fleetwoodmak777]

@@lciav I would be interested in investigating the sources behind the claims but alas, I will wait until someone else does the work

[@kp2223]

Fetal kidnapping is surprisingly way more common than people think.

[@AngelOneiros]

The leading cause of death for pregnant women is homicide, unfortunately :/

[@charliekezza]

Most likely killed within the first 3 hours sadly

[@Beautiful_Hope]

I was so afraid of this happening, when I was pregnant. I didn’t have any friends & it was only my husband & me. He knew how much of a fear it was for me. It’s scary how often this happens. I’ve heard so many stories.

[@larapalma3744]

​@@Beautiful_Hope It's extremely rare

[@rickwrites2612]

​@larapalma3744 yea its one of the rarest things

[@Naomiistarr]

I hate the phrase “intimately abused”….imtimate is a positive word, it’s personal and not to be paired with something so tragic…

[@MadameSomnambule]

KZbin censors the actual term, demonitizes videos that use it in other words. So I can see why one could use intimate as a substitute.

[@jackcurl2005]

@@MadameSomnambule And we know *exactly* what is meant.

[@darkdest6664]

i dont like it either but blame y0utube for their censorship

[@queenkreviews1999]

right!! Social media allows ao much vulgar content but cencors serious topics for victims smh

[@fairahzan]

I know, but censors! It's why people use alternatives like "unalive" or "corn" or "grape" to avoid KZbin censors/demonitising their videos/taking them down altogether.

[@BoxOKittens]

As someone who knows several people who were killed, one being a family member, it makes me grateful in a strange way to know that they're dead. The not knowing would be unbearably worse.

[@lewisirwin5363]

Closure is closure, that's the thing i've learned through my own (thankfully lesser) struggles

[@L0st_Sensei]

The Ariel Castro kidnappings. Three women go missing between 2002 and 2004 in Cleveland, Ohio. In 2013, a man was walking through a residential area in cleveland, when a woman started shouting and pleadibg with him through the screen door of a home. he kicked the screen out of the door to free her, and her 6 year old daughter. after freed she called 911 and identified as one of the women who had been missing for 10 years. Police went back to the home and searched it and after announcing themselves, the other two women who had been missing for 10 years came out of an upstairs bedroom. Castro had kidnapped them and assaulted them for 10 years, the 6 year old was born while the women were in captivity, and another child was lost to a forced miscarriage due to abuse from castro Castro was a schoolbus driver during the majority of the time these women were in captivity

[@Kiss_My_Aspergers]

"Fun" Fact: The girl who called, her mother went on Sylvia Browne to ask about her daughter while she was still missing. Browne told her that her daughter was dead. The woman died before her daughter was found and freed, and likely went to her grave believing she'd see her daughter in the "afterlife".

[@steviebeevie]

I'd love to meet the man who rescued them. He is so humble in every interview I've seen and just seems like a genuinely good person.

[@coolbuddy123ify]

One of the survivors wrote a book about the hell she went through called "Finding Me", which I own. I highly recommend it but it's not for anyone with a weak stomach. She describes the things that were done to her and the others in great detail and it's genuinely some of the most heinous, unthinkable shit a person could ever do to another human being. "Depraved" doesn't even begin to describe it.

[@lol5776]

Dead giveaway.

[@lewisirwin5363]

I remember her call to 911, you can hear a similar kind of thrill of relief in her voice as that lovely diver who found those trapped Thai footballers in the flooded cave. Just, she _survived!_ No greater feeling

[@ionamerkin1092]

Story 38 sounds like the missing chick and her family got put into witness protection. I think it's the only thing that fits. The cops don't believe OP that roommate existed. Her stuff is missing, and too difficult to move out alone in that time period. No records of her at the school she had definitely been enrolled in. All the cell phones for her AND her family all being disconnected exactly when this happened. Even her insomnia fit with this theory, if something bad enough for witness protection happens, your sleep will probably suffer until you get safe, and it would be dangerous to tell your roommate the truth. That's all too much to be coincidence, and too far reaching to be anyone but the government. Chick got a new life and OP got a story to tell.

[@lewisirwin5363]

One can hope! Worse option is schizophrenia/psychosis on the part of OP

[@saagabragi6938]

​@@lewisirwin5363 It seems to have resolved on its' own if that was the case though

[@Yourlocaltrashgoblin]

The highway of tears, the missing person cases themselves arent extra creepy in of itself, but, the way the police is handling it, the way the indigenous communities talk about it, the way *everyone* there knows about it, knows that the family who wrnt missing was involved, how all the men who went missing were involved, the way it seems these missing person cases are entirely racism and no officials will acknowledge. Its truly a horrifying thing

[@mariawhite7337]

Not to mention when Turd-deau was asked publicly about it he said "excuse me check your gendered language" and promptly disregarded what was said.

[@justinburchette]

​@@mariawhite7337 I know this is kind of an old comment, but where did you see this at? If you remember; if not it's OK, I was just curious. I was trying to find it but I can't :(

[@empressmarowynn]

I feel like for the Hong Kong Disney one it wasn't a coincidence the second kid got kidnapped. It would have been really easy for someone to follow the kids around, grab the girl when they got separated, and then just follow the boy back to his parents to so "helpfully" offer to watch him for them.

[@marcianewman8151]

My father would take us 3 older kids ( 11,12, 6) to the carnival , give us ride tickets and sit on a bench by the carousel. We were told to come back at a certain time for lunch or if we needed more ride tickets.

[@askabluejay4932]

I don't remember a lot of details of this story unfortunately, but there's a case I heard about a 2-year-old boy who wandered away from his family while they were on a trip to a national park in the winter. His parents couldn't find him anywhere, and it was snowing, so they reported it and a search team was sent out. they managed to find little footprints to follow, and after about 24 hours he was found, /12 miles away/. Several adults, even the Survivor Man, who's job it is to traverse difficult terrain in inhospitable conditions (like a mountain in a snowstorm). None of them could make the hike that this _2-year-old_ did in about a day, and still no one knows how he got so far away. Edit: He was okay, p much uninjured iirc. This case has been labeled as a Missing 411 case, which is a phenomenon of generally similar missing persons cases from national parks and monuments in both Canada and the US.

[@ThunderStruck15]

For the record, the missing 411 thing is bullshit. It's by a guy trying to push a sasquash theory. He lies about a lot of stuff, and he was fired from his job as a police officer for being a con artist.

[@Athlynne]

I know this case, I think, the boy's name was Jared, I think? The official story, IIRC, is that a mountain lion nabbed the kid and brought him up to where his shoe was found, in a location almost impossible to get to.

[@charaxiphare]

Was the kid okay in the end?

[@TweSunshine]

Was he alive?

[@askabluejay4932]

@@charaxiphare Yeah, afaik he was uninjured

[@vermyfox8450]

Story 35, I remember this too. A ways back someone on reddit had been asking around and found an officer who recognized the case as one they worked. Apparently the kid was fine, and went missing for a while. The closet apparently had a loose panel going into the attic the kid was able to climb up to and access. He used it to get in the attic and later snuck out of the house to a friend's house where he was later found angry at his family but thankfully okay.

[@carolmadea5675]

I'm 42 years old and I only remember two specific stories from watching Beyond Belief. That was one of them. It haunted me as a child. I'm really glad there was a mundane explanation.

[@thejourney1369]

I remember that one. My son and I used to watch that show all the time.

[@iseeyou1067]

Even if this isn't true, I'm going to sleep tonight because of you. I hate stories with no endings

[@thomaspatnode7053]

The Long Island Serial Killer was caught, he was a c-suite officer who murked women while his wife was out of town.

[@xXprettyxkittyXx]

Yeah I caught that one. I’m assuming this post is older but fortunately, his reign of terror is finally over.

[@lewisirwin5363]

@@xXprettyxkittyXx Based on some of the dates, this vid is taken from a 2017 Reddit conversation

[@danadecker4855]

Hes only been charged with 4 of the murders. It is possible another killer is still out there

[@TheVoltDenatsu]

Manny Pardo? The timeline is on its way. Thank you for your service Thomas. The God of Gematria

[@mairasilva7192]

thankfully, and Story 13, the one that murdered the two girls, that the girls took a video and posted on Snapchat was caught too

[@christianallen9653]

The Delphi IN case has someone in custody that is accused of murdering the girls. It's still really wild and extremely creepy

[@killermfkaty]

I'm from just south of that area. The theories about a cover-up are insanely believable and unfortunately, the way they went about getting the theory out has put the trail in jeopardy

[@RC-pz7tg]

I’ve followed the Delphi case from the beginning, since I’m from Indiana. The police have made this case crazier with the way they have handled it. A lot of people believe it is tied to a pedo ring.

[@ecm84ee]

They did get him.

[@saagabragi6938]

​@@killermfkaty Covering up what?

[@sarahperkins6391]

Down the hill... down the hill...............

[@HaYlEeXx19]

21:37 humans like that must be put down honestly.

[@joshuakuehn]

At that point can you even pretend they're human?

[@blackosprey2219]

​@@joshuakuehnYes, honestly. Only humans are capable of being that twisted and disgusting.

[@Whammytap]

Regarding Story 28, Dennis Martin disappearance: this sounded fascinating so I looked it up. It took place in 1969, not 1996. Dennis did not "vanish into thin air from behind a tree," he went down a different fork in the trail. Dennis was also developmentally disabled. The 1500 searchers muddled up any trail the boy might have left, this case is why we now know that smaller numbers of searchers are better. The green "barrettes" (LOL) happened to be doing training exercises nearby and they were welcomed to help with the search because, you know, they had training and gear. They didn't communicate much with other agencies because the military has its own chain of command and procedures. Mr. Key never claimed his kids saw a bear or a Sasquatch. The "wild man" he saw was a dude who lived in the woods, he saw this dude get into a white van, acting suspiciously, and drive away. His kids didn't see the man, as they were well behind him on the trail. This is supported by newspaper articles from 1969. The author David Paldives (sp?) has come under criticism for fabricating many elements of "true" stories in his Missing 411 series. Take his writings with a very large grain of salt.

[@kellyzing9951]

He actually was hiding behind a tree when he went missing. Playing hide and seek with a family they met while there (last name was also Martin weird coincidence, no relation) dad was watching him. He watched him go behind the tree, went missing from there. Horrible story.

[@BassBeat66]

Dennis Martin always reminds me of Bobby Dunbar, who went missing in...the 1910s. Same situation - family was camping and he mysteriously disappeared. Months later, the police find a man who has a boy that looks like Bobby, but who's name was Bruce Anderson. Bruce's mother had trouble identifying him, but Bobby's mother was about 90% sure that was her son. So "Bobby" went home with the Dunbars and lived like that until he died. Just before he died, his daughter I think was curious about this case, so she took a DNA test and...probably to no one's surprised, was actually the daughter of Bruce Anderson, aka her dad "Bobby Dunbar". The rest of her family were pissed that she would do that, probably cause it meant that the Dunbars literally kidnapped a child from his poor mother. What happened to Bobby has never been learned and he was never found.

[@tessiepinkman]

Important addition to your comment of "You're most likely to be killed by your spouse"; That's true for WOMEN in heterosexual relationships and for MEN in gay relationships/"situationships", though that stat is so closely followed by "hate crimes" towards gay men that it's really hard to know which one should be first on the list. It's not true for anybody else.

[@ashleyandanime4815]

I don’t want to get married as a straight female now…

[@queenboudicca31]

​@@ashleyandanime4815Don't have to actually legally married for a woman to be trapped in an abusive relationship (men, too).

[@steviemaster]

Yes because for men it's themselves, don't leave that part out. If you are explicitly excluding men then think of the suicide rates

[@rickwrites2612]

Basically you are most likely to be killed by your sex/romance/marriage partner, but only if its a man.

[@zombieedrea]

@@ashleyandanime4815 Queer women get into abusive relationships and marriages every day. :( Intimate partner violence can happen no matter the gender. There might be statistics for which demographic is more at risk, but either way, it's a danger for anyone. That's why it's important to not only know the signs, but to have a support system you can turn to if it happens. You just gotta be vigilant, know your worth, set your boundaries, and to always speak to someone if you suspect the relationship is starting to get unhealthy.

[@getcomfortable3373]

Story 1: There was a documentary [maybe 10 years ago?] A reporter went to investigate and the police stated they knew there were a group of body butchers that had set up deeper along the trail. The locals were afraid of the organ retrievers. However the police completely ruled out the girls could have been taken by them. The photos the girls were taking up until 4am were random things like trees and a path etc. The reporter thinks they either used the flash as a torch OR were trying to Document the path they were guided [hunted] on. The reporter gave the best life advice for travel that to this day I follow. If you are travelling anywhere at all and have a phone with low battery and no signal open your voicemail and record an SOS message identifying key details of your surroundings. Even if your phone is destroyed it ensure that everyone who trieds to reach you *will* get the message and help will be sent.

[@a_grape_in_space1016]

I think you read a story of what happened to my fiancee's cousin. He was on a trip to Austin, TX. He went for a jog, and then was never seen alive again. They found pieces of him in various dumpsters, and never found who killed him. Santeria could be exactly what happened to him.

[@lbec9487]

I’m in central texas and never heard of this. Who is your fiancée’s cousin?

[@robertajill3070]

Story one…the most likely explanation for the random night photos of the wilderness found on the girls’ cameras is that they were using the flash to illuminate their surroundings. The only real mystery to the photos is WHY did they need to illuminate their surroundings? Were they travelling in the dark? Were they trying to frighten wild animals? Could have been for any number of reasons but we’ll never know.

[@tamsel814]

There are also the missing photos. Perhaps it was simply the camera malfunctioning. There are just so many odd details in that case.

[@bedlambelle]

There's exactly one photo double deleted from the phone and one of the pics is of a head injury. Could the deleted pic have been of a murderer? I think so.

[@mariawhite7337]

​@bedlambelle i don't think so. I think they got lost and injured. The picture of the head wound could have been for checking it for infection or bugs. They'd have had days where they lived and slowly perished.

[@bedlambelle]

@@mariawhite7337 check out @mrballen's telling of the events. There is more suspicious that happened that wasn't included here.

[@pinkpugginz]

Why were their bodies cut up? I think they got lost and ran into someone.

[@pupdawn]

Story 29 is Lars Mittang… he was from Germany. It’s probably one of the cases that haunts me the most still. His mother is still hoping he’ll eventually turn up. I pray for it, I truly do

[@Nico6th]

People really think that doctors can't tell whether a woman has just given birth or not or whether a baby was born via c-section or not? For those who are wondering: babies born via c-section have a different head shape since they didn't have to squeeze through the birth channel. Obviously, the non-c-section baby's head shape does change to normal over the next few hours/days. That's why the skull bones of babies are not connected together the way they are in adults otherwise they wouldn't make it through the birth channel. As for the mother: You can see if a baby was just pushed out there or not. It has to widen significantly after all and it does take time to reset.

[@josi4251]

13:20 That story is fiction. The tale is by Ambrose Bierce and it titled, "An Unfinished Race." Makes a good story but it did not happen.

[@AnonymousFohYOU]

I read the book, good story

[@Bob-cs8gs]

For what it's worth, there is a similar case where there was a run up a small hill and one of the participants just disappeared during the race. No trace of him or what happened. I think it took place in the early 2000s

[@MountainCry]

@@Bob-cs8gs Michael LeMaitre is the name of the man who went missing during a race in 2012. He went up the mountain, was seen near the top, and never again, no trace ever found.

[@josi4251]

@@MountainCry There are many such cases in vast mountainous areas. Those cases are worth noting, but I don't believe it's bigfoot, aliens, or other paranormal events. That said, there are a few outlying cases that are true mysteries and show up in David Paulides' books and videos.

[@Bob-cs8gs]

@@MountainCry thank you, I could remember his name or when it happens, just remember hearing the story through the Mr. Ballen podcast!

[@BowieRulez]

That Bar Jona guy, there is no statute of limitations on murder. If they have evidence that he did murder someone, he can be charged with murder ant anny time. And a person admitting to attempted murder of a child should have gotten more than just probation.

[@rickwrites2612]

Also really easy to convict on circumstantial evidence. Like until recently, that's all you really needed. Yea it sounds suss, best look it up maybe reading will make more srnse

[@Miss_Eldritch]

49:14 to be fair, I'm constantly typing in stupid incriminating questions into Google like "how much food can someone survive on?"

[@oliviaolsen8718]

me as well cause I'm writing a book. LOL

[@Brit626]

Same.

[@dominikakratochvil860]

My mom told me about a kid (7 year boy) from her village. They were around same age. One day he dissapeared. The whole village was looking for him. Week later, he was found in my moms neighbor celler, hidden in the coal. He was intimately attacked and then choked. The man confes everything imediately. Police had to protect him from the villagers. Guards in the prison leaked what he did, and he didn’t last even a year.

[@dalerimoller272]

My friend Clinton Nelson has been missing since 2006 after moving to Louisiana. Look up his case, its haunting. His mother is still looking to bring him (his remains) home. I pray we get some answers in our lifetimes. Especially in his mom’s life.

[@Brit626]

I mean, I hope his mom finds him, hopefully alive. Unfortunately, I think Louisiana is also prime real estate to be murked in because.. You know, the gators. But again, I hope he's found soon, or there's a break in his case. 🙏

[@dalerimoller272]

@Brit626 Thank you for your kind reply. I’m pretty sure that’s what happened too, unfortunately. 😞

[@tailablu3585]

The game is Exo One, in case anyone's curious!

[@sugar_ventricles]

thank you so much

[@sl4sshh]

ty omg

[@LoneWolf-lk6um]

Thanks man

[@themirlabs]

legend

[@violetspersonalaccount.2344]

God that guy in story 18 who saved that last girl, thank you. his friends (doubt theyre his driends anymore cause theyre peobabaly in jail + who would stay friends with people like that) really thought ht was as deranged as them

[@ThisDude234]

Fr I got so happy he called the cops. There's been way too many cases where death could have been prevented if someone just spoke up!

[@daniellebenfield95]

Brandon Dawson's remains were found last year, near where he had called 911 from.

[@jamieweatherwalk2752]

Really?

[@aeden6331]

Not a human case, but the kidnapping of Shergar the racehorse, the last photo of him alive is super creepy and he has never been found. Super sad story

[@peculiari5795]

An IRA member reportedly made a deathbed confession. He and his gang took the horse for ransom money. But negotiations broke down, the horse hurt his leg during captivity so the gang shot and buried him. The account of the horses death haunts me however. They used a machine gun and since the horse was optimum healthy, he took bullet after bullet, dying in agony. I hope this guy lied to get attention and none of this happened.😢

[@colesephhh9546]

WHY DID I LOOK IT UP?! WHY IS HIS PUPIL SO DILATED?!

[@labyrinthgirl17]

I'm surprised the story about Brian Shaffer wasn't on this list. He was a 27 year old med student, went into a bar, the Ugly Tuna, and never came out again. He is captured on CCTV footage a few times, but never leaving the bar. I'm waiting for something like a remodeling to happen, or they shift something, like a freezer, and find his corpse stuck somewhere.

[@philipjohnston5822]

I have one. It might have been mentioned, but there was a missing person report during the time when cops were being ambushed. The guy called 911 and gave them his name and location, but the dispatcher didn't send anyone out. The missing man was found dead sometime after and it came out that the cops knew he called them, but they didn't do anything because they didn't think he was really in danger.

[@tiffanycole8058]

I really need deeper dives into all of these! This list is insane. All those broken hearts out there just wanting to know where their loved one is and what happened to them. I imagine it would torment me if i lost someone that way.

[@shilohthelonelygoose8888]

The missing kid in Ireland, Philip Cairn. Im not from Ireland but it still creeps me out every time I remember him. The fact that they looked every where multiple times and then some days after his backpack was found in an alleyway. Creepy as anything.

[@Fairiegurl101]

I don't remember many details of the case because it happened when I was, like 6, but it was used as a boogyman story by teachers and parents for a while, so it stuck with me. The bare minimum that I can remember was that the girl was about 16 and had been putting up posters around town for something. Missing dog, school event, I don't recall, just that she was pinning these posters to light poles around her street. She disappeared while she was out, the only thing that showed it might not have just been being picked up by a friend was that they found her flip flops by the side of the road near one of her posters. I have no idea if she was ever found -- alive or otherwise.

[@emmyland3162]

The person who shared William Tyrell’s story has done very little fact checking. They said the parents have remained unidentified for ‘reasons only the police know.’ The reason they have not been identified is because they were William’s foster parents, not his bio parents, and for that reason, the media could not identify them. That’s a well-known fact explained since the very beginning. Bill Spedding was viciously hounded by NSW police during the initial stages of the investigation. He was acquitted of the historical SA charges. He then successfully sued the State and won. He was not involved in the Tyrell case. There have been no other suspects. There were many police f’ups. When searching the property and surrounding woods, it was conducted with people, not dogs, meaning his scent was lost, if that’s where he had gone. The lead investigator was dismissed after illegally recording a suspect. When that came to light it exposed significant strife within the NSW police force. Personally, but not factually, I think Jubelin was pushing an agenda and belief but could not quite make the evidence fit. As recently as last month, the foster parents were charged with intimidating another child in their care. How do I know? Simple Google search, and click on reliable media such as The Guardian and not The Daily Mail. The most recent theory in this case is, shortly after taking the Spider-Man photo, William fell from a balcony and died. It’s then theorised that he was moved to another location. I think this is also the most likely. It is very frustrating that disinformation about this case is still being spread, even as there have been developments about the case the commenter did not mention. As a final side note; defamation law is extremely strict in Australia. Slander is not tolerated. A case finished this week where a political staffer had been charged with SA, but the criminal trial was abandoned due to juror misconduct. It was a HUGE story in the public’s interest. The victim was interviewed by a senior journalist, which aired on a national free-to-air channel. After the trial was abandoned, the perpetrator decided to press charges on the journalist and a few other media agencies in the civil court. He should have stopped with the trial abandonment because the judge found that he had SA’d the victim, and that the journalist had not defamed him. Massively interesting.

[@username-pu2so]

Is there any truth in the predator ring? I don't want to look it up - I don't think I have the stomach for it right now.

[@emmyland3162]

@@username-pu2so unfortunately they do exist but as to the Tyrell case and if any are linked I couldn’t confidently say.

[@elshe13elieves]

I was looking for this comment, thank you for providing this correction! William Tyrells case is absolutely heartbreaking and I hope he gets some justice.

[@AshKetchum442]

This was a great narration. I love listening to you read these stories. You are so passionate and empathetic

[@dinoheartnerd2265]

The Delphi case of Abigail "Abby" Williams (13) and Liberty "Libby" German (14) has been haunting me for quite some time. My heart is so broken for those poor little girls and their families... May they rest in peace.

[@ClassifiedRanTom]

“Girl in the bathtub” story gives off heavy r/ThatHappened vibes.

[@miliniumo147]

Not a missing person's case, but when I was 14-16 I wanted to move out of my parents house and looked on Craigslist to see if there were any postings. There were 3-4 postings saying you could live in these houses for free, you just had to clean and cook. I never went, but I was naive and it took a bit for it to click that this was more likely a dangerous thing than a good one.

[@regulargoat7259]

Im an australian and william tyrrel is one of those names i think everyone in australia knows. It’s so sad that he’s still missing, and my theory is that Bill killed him and dumped him in the bushland somewhere. I really hope they find him one day

[@gremlinsdontthink2125]

I’m surprised no one mentioned the yuba county five.

[@teutonicsniper2502]

Was gonna say this, I saw Wendigoon's video on it this morning! Very creepy, but also very sad...

[@vixfeetunder]

Justice for Abby and Libby. Someone is in custody for it now though. Having a hard time getting lawyers to represent him though

[@ToastyNoneofyourbusiness]

Haven't finished the video so idk if it was mentioned, but the Sodder children. Imo, it's not much of a mystery, but i'll tell it anyway. Italian family in a small town around Xmas. A while before the incident a guy (i believe the dad's insurance agent?) threatened to burn the Sodder's house down because they don't support Mussolini. Lo and behold, the house burns down. Police and fire department were extremely late to the scene, partially due to the holiday and rural nature of the town (although it's suspected they may have also been Mussolini supporters). They claim it was an electrical fire, despite no evidence for it. They also claimed that the children who couldn't escape died in the fire, despite no remains being found. A fire like that was not hot enough or long enough to melt bones, there would have been evidence. The Sodders were convinved that those children were kidnapped and put up a sign by a highway for their missing kids. Although there were many sightings, they were never found. The Sodders believed that the missing kids were alive even to their graves. Unfortunately, most of the family, if not all of them, who would have known the missing kids, are dead. Hell, given the amount of time that's past since then, the missing kids are probably dead. I don't believe that it's much of a mystery because to me, it's obvious who did it, why they did it, and why it wasn't taken seriously. The only real mystery is what happened to the missing kids. I don't believe they were killed in the fire, nor right away by their kidnappers. At least, not all of them were. They were kept alive for some time. How long? Who knows. Some of them may have even been gaslit into believing they weren't the Sodder children and accepted new identities given to them. Or maybe they just lived in fear of their tormenters for that long.

[@Ultras_450]

Is Mussolini is a politician or a mafia group?

[@moviestargf]

@@Ultras_450italian dictator

[@BassBeat66]

@@Ultras_450 you should've learned this in your world history class in middle/high school. 🤨

[@Sevness]

Story 43, this is actually not that rare, the government will do stuff like that from time to time if there is a vested interest. I remember one story that a man had his grandmother die, and was donating her body for scientific research due to some illness she had. Ended up the Government took her body instead, strapped her to a chair, and blew her body up, and then returned what few chunks of her body they could fine for burial.

[@Brit626]

The way my jaw just fucking dropped. Are you serious?!

[@Sevness]

@@Brit626 Unfortunately yes, looking into it again as been years since heard the story, I was wrong, it wasn't his grandma, it was his mother. She was donated to a research facility and instead of scientific research you'd expect, they strapped her body to a chair, put an Improvised Explosive Device under the chair, and blew her up.

[@kiraaisling9603]

They actually thankfully found the Delphi murderer I can’t remember his name but they finally found him

[@lydiapetra1211]

Haven't heard anything about that case in quite awhile...

[@kiraaisling9603]

@@lydiapetra1211 yeah but at least this is kinda good news. I’m also pretty sure they found the Long Island serial killer

[@CinderXiaoLong]

No name was cited for the Delphi murderer, at least that I can find

[@ResidentMilf]

​@@CinderXiaoLongRichard Allen

[@CinderXiaoLong]

@@ResidentMilf ah. I didn't do too much digging bc I'm at work, but thanks

[@tailuigi]

Story 10: Whoever posted this changed some details, likely for privacy. The girl wasn't in ninth grade, but sixth. It wasn't by a lake, but by a river. She was only 12 years old. Her last choked words through tears were "Mommy, don't." Her name was Karissa Boudreau, and people still leave flowers and teddy bears (nicknamed "Karissa bears") where she was found. I have no interest in protecting her killer's identity or safety. Her name is Penny Boudreau, born Penny Patricia Dawe in Ontario in 1974. Former resident of Clark's Harbour, Nova Scotia, and later Bridgewater, NS, where the crime occurred. She was caught thanks to a sting in which undercover police posed as organised crime bosses, offering to clean up the evidence for her, but alleging that they needed the details in order to do so. At this point she readily confessed in full detail, without sign of shame or remorse - a common thread throughout the whole business. In prison, she's been pulling the whole "born again" routine, and has been permitted an increasing number of escorted leaves to attend church or visit a friend. She is eligible for parole in 2029, and I fear it may be granted. Let us all do our part to ensure that even if she leaves prison, she will never be free. Let her never know a moment's peace in which her atrocity does not hound her. I do not believe in Hell, but she makes me wish that I did. May she come to know Hell in this life, whether or not it awaits her in the next as well. The image of that poor sweet child's face should be the last image burned into her brain. And let no one ever again use the word "mother" in association with her. (This is not a call for physical violence.)

[@lordvoldemort5586]

The missing family from the 1860s or 1870s is the most scary to me. A family settled in a small community, there was the morher, father, and six children. They had a local boy also staying with them that night to help with the plowing. When the boys father came to get him, as his mother had gone into labor, the farm was in working order but no one was there. Animals were feed, breakfast was on the table, the ox was hooked to the plow. They never found any trace of the family, nothing. It was like they never existed. It happened in a settlement not too far from where the small town I grew up in now stands. Every planting season I heard this story from someone, typically a farmer. They weren't given gravestones until each one would have been 80. No one wanted to give up hope, now all the headstones mark they went missing on one day and died on there 80th birthday. It's creepy.

[@amethyst42]

8 year old Nicole Morin, who went missing in Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada in July 1985 is my most mysterious. 40 years later, not one clue of her whereabouts.

[@charliebrown4799]

I moved to Antioch, CA back in '08 shortly before JC Dugard was found. It still blows my mind how she wasn't found sooner

[@TB-dj4pe]

I really appreciate that you actually read the stories and it’s not an annoying AI voice, thank you!

[@UniqueornBacon]

The Bar Jonah/Barjonah/Barjona story reminded me of the Criminal Minds episode Lucky. Complete with him being overweight, having a cookbook and feeding the community.

[@PaulaCollins-pz5rd]

Maybe that's what they based the episode on

[@lunariian]

Jennifer Kesse's disappearance drives me nuts because she did everything right. She was so safety conscious. When people were working on her apartment she would stand in the doorway, on the phone with someone. She had an alarm by her bed in case someone broke in at night. Her parents instilled safety into her after they were tied up and robbed. She's proof you can do everything right but if evil is meant to it will still find you.

[@lovely.l1ls]

i remember reading a story once, not exact cause it’s been a while. a girl was raped by her dad and got pregnant, he abused her yada yada. she went into labour in the middle of the night and her dad drove her to the hospital (thankfully). before she gave birth she ran to the bathroom and didn’t come back, eventually someone went to check on her and the baby was stuffed into the garbage can stuck under a bunch of toilet paper. the girl was never seen again and the worst part was she was pretty young (like 14-16) correct me if i’m not spot on and i’ll edit it but it still makes me sick to my stomach

[@lovely.l1ls]

@annistar9693 it was probably fake but real

[@emmafrididj5744]

My grandma just recently told me this story that happened to our old neighbor. We used to live next to this old guy and his wife, in a somewhat rural town in Illinois. And a couple years after we moved away the old guys wife was in the hospital for a medical emergency. This happened during a winter vortex where temperatures drop severely, which is very dangerous. And so the old guy left his house to see her, but the nearest hospital was in the next town over. He never showed up at the hospital and went missing for a few days, and so everyone went to search for him but they couldn’t find him. A couple days later someone was driving to one of the towns in the opposite direction and stopped a car on the side of the road. Mind you everything was still very cold but not completely frozen over anymore. And they found him, but he had died. Turns out he got lost in the storm and went in the complete opposite direction of the hospital and was almost 2 towns over. And his car ran out of gas and he had frozen to death in his car during the storm.

[@RayvenTheNight]

People fail to realize how extremely simple and easy it is to get away with murder.

[@meghanfaith2185]

???

[@cakez1515]

There’s currently a missing 20 year old male where I live. He was last seen leaving work on the 28th of November 2023 just before we had a snow storm (Scandinavian winter, mind you). They haven’t even found his car and there are no real clues why and what happened. The common theory is that his car failed, that he drove off the road or something similar, and got stuck in the snow. Despite many searches by law enforcement, volunteers and Missing People and the snow now gone both him and his car are still nowhere to be found. May very well be a “natural” answer with no criminal activity involved, but it’s scary when it actually happens near you. You always hear these stories without thinking of the possibility you might be one of the victims one day.

[@SewardWriter]

I want more info on Monique from Oklahoma. Can confirm that, especially in small towns, the Good Ol' Boy Network is a real thing.

[@herstoryanimated]

Appears to be the case of Monique Daniels. It really is suspicious on the parents part (it was likely her step-father who committed the act, possibly with collusion from her mother).

[@SewardWriter]

@@herstoryanimated Ty! Why is it so often the stepfather?

[@naomz06]

This happened some days ago, friday to be exact. A little boy was missing, two hours then, he was found, but was really horrible. He was missing about 6 pm, he was staying with his granny, the granny, just went to her bedroom to get something, really fast, and when she came back, the little 4yo wasn't there. She started looking for him, call their families and the entire neighbourhood was looking for him. Two hours then, he was founded two miles away. He was bite so bad by dogs, and with signs of SA and his head was bumped. That day my mom was in the hospital when the kid arrived, she said was something so horrible, that just thinking again, makes her so angry and sad. Until now we don't know what really happened to the kid. Cuz 4yo walking o running 2 miles in minus of 2 hours, is imposible, also the dog bites, i don't know... my city is so concerned with this case.

[@SamuelMaybird]

The Barjona story truly shows how pathetic the system is at protecting people. That 'judge' is responsible for his spree. Disgusting...

[@dominikakratochvil860]

Once a boy my mom knew as a kid dissapired. We was 7. The whole village was looking for him. They found him week later in the cellar of moms neighbor, hidden in coal. Yeah, child molestor, unfortunately. Police had to protect him from the angry villagers. Other inmates in prison find out what he did from the guards. He didn’t survive even a year.

[@Mikey-TMNT-is-the-best-turtle]

... W for the villagers that attacked him and W for the inmates for whatever the heck they did to him... Even thought I hate murderers.

[@green29373]

For the first story, my best guess is that some psycho in the woods probably unalived them, then he took their stuff, and threw their bodies in the river. It would explain the fragments and foot still in boot (it protects the foot, so animals and stuff cant get to it unlike the rest). Why he would leave behind their phones? Idk, maybe he tried to get into them, but didnt or just didnt want any evidence by him and changed his mind downstream.

[@JoshSweetvale]

It was animals.

[@alexanderthorne635]

Likely that one of them fell down a hill/ravine and was mortally injured, the other refused to leave them until it was too late to find her way back in the dark. She would use the flash on the camera to light her way in the forest, but eventually also fell down a steep incline and died of her injuries. The scattering of remains would probably have been animals picking at and dispersing the carcasses. The data from the phone records and the camera film evidence along with eyewitness testimony and the timings fit the thesis that it was an accident, a series of events that just snowballed into disaster

[@Atom53185]

May those who died rest in peace, those who just got lost find their way home, and those who killed reform into good people.

[@SewardWriter]

David Paul Brown simply came out wrong. Very, very wrong. (I refuse to call him Bar-Jonah. How was a convicted criminal allowed to change his name like that, anyway?)

[@jamieweatherwalk2752]

Because believe it or not, criminals are HUMAN BEINGS and have "rights", too!

[@SewardWriter]

@@jamieweatherwalk2752 Changing one's name is a privilege. It's an expensive one, too.

[@rockmusicisperfection2791]

@@jamieweatherwalk2752 that piece of shit should not have had rights.

[@darkstarr984]

The Sandusky case is horrific and the reason that every member of faculty and staff at Penn State who isn’t working far from any outside contact is a trained mandated reporter. Because frankly, almost nobody there and most of the alumni (including me) believe that he would have gone unpunished as long as he did if people knew who to report to, instead of only confronting him directly.

[@natalie0385]

I remember that story 35 of tv show I was soo creeped out I didn’t sleep in weeks. I think in Hurricane Irma in 2017 my parents were working at school in USVI, and told me that a teacher who was from another state and had previously problems with amnesia, in the middle of the bad rainy weather due to the hurricane coming went into a beach bar, ordered some drink and then left leaving her car keys, sunglasses, wallet and never to be seen again

[@balllee6959]

My friend Tate (construction worker from Okayama Japan) went on holiday to Mexico City on new year 2022/2023 and just vanished. 3 weeks after local friends reported him missing he was found by a police patrol in a ditch, delirious, without shoes or valuables and with a bullet wound in his shoulder. Took 3 weeks in hospital before he could fly home. Hospital did a blood and urine test and found fentanyl. He has no recollection of what happened or where he was and even after nearly 2 years, the memories haven’t returned

[@mairiking8089]

The scariest missing person case i know is Definitely the over 200 lives lost on malaysia airlines flight 370. The plane went missing at around 1 AM from air traffic control but was able to be tracked by military probes and sattelites. The probes and sattelites show the plane seemingly flying over the south china sea for hours with no real purpose before it dissapeared from both probes and sattelites in an area where its believed to have ran out of fuel. Although this is scary, i have a theory for what may have happened. With how it dissapeared off radar and how it aimlessly wandered for several hours could mean the plane suffered an electrical failure. Without auto-pilot, a way of telling where to go or any way to talk to air traffic control, the pilots lost their way and ran out of fuel, crashing into the south china sea. RIP to all 239 lives lost.

[@RandomRikster]

The last story hit so hard because I was JUST in Hong Kong Disneyland. I was just there! My aunt was going on and on about how Hong Kong doesn't have any crime, and how everyone there is so honest (she lives there, I was visiting from the U.S.) and yet there that last story goes saying that crime happens... everywhere.

[@tadomifu]

When I was in highschool a girl went missing, her little sister was one of the younger girls that were in our friend group. She found her sister in an abandoned car that had been there ages, she was in the trunk. It wasn't on the news, it wasn't spoken about, just this poor girl who was sent straight back to class after finding her murdered sisters body in a car boot. I've tried to google it so many times but it's a mystery, if it hadn't happened to someone I knew, I wouldn't believe it. It happened in a very small touristy place that likes to seem crime free, so many awful things have happened there and they are buried so turists don't get scared away. DEP.

[@suzanneleckey6831]

Story 51. I truly hope for you one day your mum reaches out and she just went on a DV secret road. They help people disappear from unsafe situations. Seems like a long shot but would be a dream 😩

[@rionthemagnificent2971]

There's a lot of rumors going about the Delphi Case. Such as the murderer is not the guy they have in custody and that its a cover up for some rich person's adult kid. its all rumors and hear-say.

[@schuylerdraws1868]

Let’s try not to spread the rumors. We are having a hard time getting justice for the girls in general and they deserve it. Abby and Libby lit up every room they went in to. Liberty would be in her third year of college and Abby just turned 21. Let’s keep the rumor mill down and try to remember the girls and fight for justice.❤

[@Sar4zu]

honestly, it makes me sick knowing that people who have sexually assaulted minors can still be let go. if you've attempted something more than 0 times then that should put you either into an asylum to get "fixed" or stay in prison. I don't care if people can change for the better, they were and could still be a danger to children and shouldn't be let off so easy for good behavior or bail.

[@SleepyKiwi73]

I don’t think that last case is two separate events. Something tells me that was a coordinated abduction by a group of people.

[@linda3482]

The creepiest I have that did had an impact on my life was the disappearance of Marjo Winkens who vanished on the conneting road between the villages Spaubeek and Schimmert in the south of the Netherlands in september 1975. I was 4 at the time and lived on the road she dissapeared from. Police even came to my parents house for information. She had gone to a street celebration in a town 10 km further but missed her last bus. She was with a friend who invited her to stay the night over but because she had to work the next day she borrowed a moped from the mother of her friend so she could get home but never got home even though she was almost there. They found her moped and her keys on the road. 70 km up north they found her make up bag, some clothes, an army jacket she had borrowed against the cold ,the helmed and a cut up shoes but no other trace of her. Till now she is missing. A family who lived close to where she dissapeared had heard a scream. She was dressed like a man with the army jacket so with the helmed she must have looked like a man. It is such a creepy story . About 20 years (1993)later Tanja Groen dissapeared in Maastricht, 20 km from this place but now on a bike. She is also missing till now. We know now that a Dutch serial killer spend his holidays in the area, ut there where also connedtions made with a Bekgium serial killer ( Belgium border is really very close)and they are investigating now her dna samples with the Mark Dutroux case, an Belgium murderer who killed severel children. This made me never to go out allone in the dark by foot or bicycle. It stayed in my mind fore ever.

[@holliewheatley5723]

It strikes me that while we watch true crime, the only serial killers we really know about are the ones who were stupid enough to get themselves caught….. if there’s could be around 50 serial killers active at the given time in the US, how many of those will never be caught, the ones who are smart enough not to screw up and leave evidence that can identify them

[@mamajojo70]

In regards to case 40....William Tyrell. Bill Spedding and his friend were cleared...both had a airtight alibi. William was a foster child that's why the parents were never identified. Both him and his sister were in foster care. The foster mother is more likely the perpetrator. She is currently facing charges of abuse regarding Williams sister. A good cop (Gary Jubelin) sacrificed his career trying to solve this case.

[@dinoheartnerd2265]

The disappearance of Lars Mittank has always creeped me out a lot as well. Edit: in this video it is Story 29, starting at 27:45

[@CharlieApples]

Jermain “Liz” Charlo, missing from Missoula, Montana since June 16th, 2018. She was 23 at the time. Disappeared three blocks away from where I was living, in a quiet residential area of the city which I had always considered safe enough that young women could walk around after dark just fine. She had last been seen standing in the parking lot of a small local grocery store around 1 am which had been closed for over 2 hours by then (in Montana almost nothing is open at 1 am), and nobody knows why she was there. She had been out with her friends that night bar hopping, but hadn’t had much to drink and everyone who saw her that night said she wasn’t drunk at all. She had been in a good mood and didn’t mention any plans or anything unusual to her friends before leaving. The neighborhood she disappeared from is pretty sleepy, and not _wealthy_ per se but a nice neighborhood, lots of families with kids, playgrounds, historic homes, a walking trail by the river. Not a sketchy place whatsoever. In fact I had walked to the little grocery store THAT NIGHT just a few hours before she went missing to get dinner, and often walked there after dark. I’m a woman and was only a couple years older than Jermain, and always felt safe doing so along the main road. But I have no idea why someone who didn’t live there would be there so late at night, because the store was obviously closed and that neighborhood is pitch black at night except along the main road where the only street lights are (city ordinance to keep light pollution to a minimum). There’s just nothing there except suburban houses and a closed grocery store. Jermain had two children who were 1 and 3 years old, was dating a fairly new boyfriend who she really liked (he was cleared of suspicion immediately), and was about to start a new job as a firefighter, which she had been in training for. She wasn’t addicted to drugs or anything like that, and seemed to have her life pretty together. The only sketchy thing in her personal history was her abusive ex, who had been convicted of domestic battery against her, and she had left him. And when the police investigated him, they found that he owned guns he was not legally allowed to have _as a consequence of his domestic battery conviction against her_ and he was sentenced to the maximum of 21 months in prison for the illegal possession…but was never named a suspect. And not for a lack of trying on the police’s part. They seem to have been doing their best to find her, but have no leads. Apparently her ex had some kind of alibi for the night she went missing, and there are no suspects named in the case, which has since gone cold. Jermain’s family seems to think her ex killed her, as she hasn’t contacted anyone or logged into any of her social media accounts since then, which she was pretty active on prior to disappearing, but the evidence just isn’t there. Nobody knows what happened to her, and it has haunted me for six years now, knowing that I was outside on my porch smoking that night, three streets away, and didn’t hear anything. She was so close by, I would have heard a scream or people arguing or a car peeling out of the parking lot. But it was just a normal, quiet night in a nice neighborhood that was just across the river bridge from the city police station. She just…vanished into the dark. Her children are growing up without her, and she never even got to put on her firefighter uniform. I for one will never forget her. I will always wonder what happened.

[@TheDramacist]

Brought her overies 😖 If I'd seen this in A&E, the "congratulations!" would get stuck in my throat with the puke I was trying to hold down.

[@damaris7193]

That last story is just brutal...

[@OsirisTheRaptor]

I only know of the Dennis Martin case because of Wendigoon and the lore Lodge. It is classed as a 411 case and as of currently has never been resolved to anyone's knowledge. The many theory that surround this case baffle me to this day.

[@amelialoyselle2123]

Some of these, you had a great inflection for true crime. Level and even, but also kind of quiet and mysterious. A++. That said, well, now I'm gonna have some nightmares.

[@BassBeat66]

Try living through some of them. Adam Walsh and Steven Staynor were cautionary tales about not talking to strangers and going off on your own. When their TV movies aired, it was required watching on Sunday night. I also remember seeing Johnny Gosch's picture on at least one milk carton as a kid, as well as Etan Patz. Honestly, I think the milk carton was a far more effective way to showing missing people instead of flyers. Flyers go in the trash; milk you have to look at for at least a week or two.

[@morpheues2127]

Story 35: it was the kids brother who went in the closet and disappeared in the episode. Fortunately it was revealed after the episode aired he'd been found at a friends house a couple weeks later. He got out through a panel in the wall that had been overlooked earlier by the police.

[@nervoussoupbowl]

They missed one of the creepiest parts of the first case. One of the photos taken in the interim between the first few days and when they got lost was DELETED. Not like deleted off the camera, but wiped completely from the memory card manually. Super creepy.

[@smolpotato7969]

Oh, hell nah. That's so creepy wtf😭

[@yin-sin]

Not my story but my dad and aunt’s. This was in the late 60’s early 70’s. My grandma and grandpa were divorced due to my grandpa’s mental health issues and drug issues (not 100% sure though) and he took my aunt and dad on what was supposed to be a week long road trip. It turned into a two week long road trip and they went into Canada. My grandma was panicking cause her two kids are somewhere with their father. This was when parental kidnapping wasn’t a crime and so police couldn’t help much. My great uncle and his ex wife found them and were able to get them home. After that, my grandpa only had supervised visitations and that didn’t last long and he went MIA. The last time my dad heard about him was from a nurse who asked him if he wanted to be his caretaker and my dad said no. He passed in October of 2003 and so never knew my dad was having another kid (older sister was born in September of 1999).

[@markir3021]

I know it ended up being the coaches kid. But at least they spoke up about potentially seeing the missing girl

[@chrisofthehoovers4055]

I have a story. When I was 11 years old I was walking home from school by the tracks behind a factory when a stereotypical white, windowless van pulled up and the guy did the whole "You mom sent me, she's in the hospital" shtick. I pulled my knife, yes I know I shouldn't have had one with me at school, and probably said something that sounded cool to me at the time but was very likely cringe. Dude took off. There were several disappearances in my area at that time but I wasn't able to tell my parents about my encounter because I still wanted to walk home and play outside each day.

[@kibaliziosa483]

Story 45 gave me the creeps, i would love to read more about this...

[@emilybarclay8831]

23:25 interestingly, the claim that you’re most liked to be murdered by your spouse only applies for women. Of all male-victim murder cases, only 4.9% were killed by an intimate partner. For women, that number is 53%. Men are most likely to be killed by a male friend or acquaintance