What Is The Future of Fantasy TV?

[@mattd.9810]

As I understand it, Brandon Sanderson has had several conversations with "Hollywood" about adapting his Cosmere and the Stormlight Archives, however; Brandon is not willing to give up creative control. And when that happens, Hollywood tries to buy creative control by offering more money. Which Brandon has stated, "I don't need Hollywood's money, so Hollywood doesn't know how to deal with me." So, what we really need is a production company willing to allow Brandon Sanderson to maintain creative control and produce the movies that Brandon wants to see produced. But, as you stated, the cowards won't do it.

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

I'm not sure how feasible this would really be but maybe Brandon could even run a Kickstarter for the first season or first movie of a Mistborn adaption and expand Dragonsteel to have it's own animation or movie department to produce the adaptions in-house.

[@MisterSketch4]

@@amysteriousviewer3772I would love for this to happen. Personally, I’d want to see a Cosmere movie several times just to support Brandon and The Cosmere.

[@GraniteShaker]

I'm so glad he is standing his ground. Just think how easily Hollywood would ruin Vins arc by making her a Mary Sue. Or how insufferable they would make Shallan/Jasnah. Brandon is extremely good at writing women who are the smartest in the room, but Hollywood just can't seem to grasp the notion without it being one girl boss moment after another. My worst fear is that these stories get adapted and become the laughing stock of the Internet because of hacks thinking they need to change the characters to appeal to an audience that just doesn't exist.

[@jdkapperino8541]

It's not about being cowards. You are effectively giving ultimate power to someone who has zero experience in television. On top of that, they have zero experience in production and budgets. If Sanderson could do it without Hollywood then he would do it. The problem is translating the text into something that is profitable and budtget friendly is not that easy

[@mattd.9810]

@@amysteriousviewer3772 Brandon has specifically stated that he wants his Cosmere to be live action so it will reach larger audiences.

[@risado1104]

The way Martin crafted his world made GOT the type of fantasy that can apeal to a large audience. Martin is a history nerd so he borrow many history facts to his world and that make Westeros more realistic than others fantasys. When watching GOT most people feel like they are watching Vikings or any other medieval like history rather than some alien fantasy world. I think that played huge role in the massive sucess of the show.

[@bronzedisease]

Yeah and what martin understood a lot better than most fantasy writers is the fact of the frequent irrationality of people. People frequently act with poor judgement in books just like in life. Politics is never "neat" enought to entirely fall in line with a grand narrative.

[@djoniamman5318]

Im trying to say actually that all other books sounds childish in comparison with Game of Thrones.

[@Lezzyboy87]

​@djoniamman5318 first law? That'd make awesome tv

[@Rdffgriffin]

My thoughts exactly: adaptations of more exotic and outlandish Fantasy don't fate well because they are less relatable to general audiência, I think. Wheel of Time itself, for example, when the Seanchan appear onscreen, its f*cking weird

[@Trippels-c6f]

My question wath about the best Fantasy adaptation of all time called Lord of the Rings its the best example for both books and movie/tv

[@jaycerussell7761]

i would kill for a good mistborn adaptation.

[@evilemuempire9550]

I was thinking the same thing, the first book would make a really good movie or short series. Not sold on book 2 though, I’m still working through it and I feel like nothing has happened.

[@aurelian2668]

Hope it is animated and not live action...live action is such a make it or break it and nothing in between, whilst anime can fall back unto something.

[@jaycerussell7761]

@@evilemuempire9550 its been a while since i read it but i think the second one has some pretty crazy reveals towards the end that were mind blowing for me.

[@bz6046]

@@aurelian2668 Sanderson is working on the Mistborn adaptation, I'm pretty sure it's going to be live action.

[@dylanbertsch66]

@@evilemuempire9550 keep reading...

[@Aych328]

Just pray that if there ever is an adaptation of The Stormlight Archive, Amazon doesn’t touch it!

[@lmostdead]

Specially DISNEY

[@samjohnston1887]

… or Netflix cause they’d cancel it.

[@bz6046]

Sanderson said he is doing Mistborn first and then when he gets more confident on how things work he will adapt Stormlight. Mistborn is being worked on now.

[@SamuelSouza-di6nq]

​@@bz6046 Really, are you serious?

[@jovan9989]

First law is amazing and it is written like a script almost, you can visualise a lot of what's happening clearly. There are many grey characters that any fan of ASOIAF would love, the fight scenes are amazing and mystery is incredible alongside worldbuilding and it is very unpredictable. Literally cannot imagine any other fantasy that should get tv show before this one.

[@mattd.9810]

I have heard that, "Best Served Cold" will be getting an adaptation soon.

[@Aaarqhev]

@@mattd.9810my favorite of his, wish they made it into a 7-episodes mini-series, but a movie is fine I guess, Rebecca as lead is a great choice.

[@RyanNovotny1]

I really love the First Law series but I’m worried modern TV audiences wouldn’t appreciate it. It’s deeply, comically cynical and several of the books have endings that are intentionally anticlimactic. I can see people going “What? That’s it? What a waste of time!” And just totally failing to see the beauty in it. I think that’s why they’re starting with Best Served Cold, as it has possibly the most straightforward plot of any First Law book. I really hope I’m wrong, because I would love to see the whole series adapted 🤞

[@N0KKENWAITS]

yes

[@alb0zfinest]

"World building," lmao. What world building, First Law is clever and has interesting characters, but both the plot and world is nonexistent. Even though alot of places are mentioned, the world in actuality feels tiny in First Law.

[@martinkunz7155]

I like fantasy, but i'm tired of nihilistic "everyone is just a different degree of evil" messaging like GoT and i'll never watch girlboss perversions like rings of power and gave up on the netflix witcher adaption where the witcher is a side character in his own show. I think something inspiring like the peter jackson lord of the rings movies might work well. I don't think i'm the only one who is tired of the MCU "everything must be turned into a silly joke" formula.

[@jjhh320]

The nihilistic, GoT-esque style always reminds me of that boat social experiment scene from the Dark Knight. That was a scene that required people to simply choose good when they had every fear stacked up against them not to. Batman could do nothing, and Joker was confident that people were deeply flawed enough to fail. And yet, people chose good all on their own. The Joker was wrong, and he was alone in his evil. Modern, cynical writing can never create a scene like that because they can't possibly conceive the idea that people wouldn't resort to selfishness. Heroes aren't just heroes, and normal people aren't simply honest, decent humans to them. In the modern style, those boats would blow up, and the villain (who, let's face it, are these cynical writers) will never be slammed in the face with the cathartic "you are alone in your evil" and have that be portrayed as a good thing

[@rygord101]

So you just want classic good vs evil stories. Gee I'm sure that won't get boring at all 🤡

[@martinkunz7155]

@@rygord101 it's not just "good vs evil". It's freedom vs tyranny, loyalty vs obedience, courage vs compulsion. People enjoyed stuff like that since the dawn of time. Good enough for me.

[@seto_kaiba_]

@@jjhh320 I think you guys are massively missing the point and themes of GOT if that's what you think of it.

[@baron6588]

@@martinkunz7155 So just good vs evil stories? That shit gets formulaic real quick, why did you think classic hero epics of the ancient era turned into complex stories of different goods and different evils in the dawn of the pre-common era. From worshipping epic heroes to worshipping gods who are mostly terrible and complicated people. People have also been getting sick of stories like since the dawn of time cause people turn those kind of stories boring and unrelatable. It’s never a problem with the genre, people are just shit at writing stories sometimes.

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

I doubt there will ever truly be a series that is the "next Game of Thrones" because the TV landscape (and media as a whole) has changed a lot since it first aired. Game of Thrones began airing in a time before on-demand streaming became oversaturated and where the term "prestige television" still meant something. There will certainly still be big shows with great production value that draw a lot of viewers but I doubt any single show will have the same kind of cultural impact ever again.

[@xertz2502]

No, I disagree. Although not on GOT exact level I believe these shows came very close: mandalorian, squid game, stranger things

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

@ These shows were definitely big but none of them have really stayed in the cultural conversation beyond their initial run and none of them had much influence on other media. People still talk about GoT for better or worse and I think one of the main reasons on-demand streaming is even as big as it is today is because GoT proved that big budget TV shows could be as profitable or even more profitable than big budget films. It basically changed the TV industry and how people view what a TV show can be.

[@mlizu2554]

I believe Dune right now is probably the Fiction world that is working the best.

[@FoliX]

I fear you misunderstood Tolkien’s intentions with LOTR. Tolkien did not plan on making the Lord of the Rings, but he did have his pastime of building out his personal mythology (what would become the first, second age and bit of the third age of middle earth. As he put it, the story of the hobbit just so happened to slowly sneak into his private world and its successor would be fully based it in. Tolkien’s Legendarium wasn’t made to serve the Lord of the Rings, it was made to serve as a place for his languages and myths

[@barbiekeerth]

Malazan could be the dark gritty thing. Cosmere can be hopeful and inter connected huge thing like mcu used to be. Sun eater could be the next big sci fi thing. Honestly if they adapt stuff faithfully everything would be wonderful and profitable

[@ec_me]

A Malazan show would be the hardest but probably the best if they could get it right

[@alanrussette2819]

@@ec_me Unfortunately, that's a HUGE "if"...

[@lmac40762]

But malazan is deeply hopeful 😅

[@Trippels-c6f]

@@ec_methe budget for the First Season would be 1 Billion Dollars but i think a animated show would work perfectly

[@Falstaff0809]

Dresden Files! Yes, it had a horrible adaption years ago, but most folks have forgotten. 17 very popular books and counting. Not as expensive because it’s urban fantasy taking place NOW with contemporary sets and costumes. It has epic stories (the Winter Elves fighting a millennia long battle to prevent the END), intimate and heartfelt relationships, questions of what do you do with power. Got it all.😁

[@N0KKENWAITS]

definitely could use a reboot. SO MUCH POTENTIAL

[@alb0zfinest]

That would be a great idea if they could follow a Supernatural (show) kind of way, but the way tv is going I highly doubt they'd replicate something like that

[@N0KKENWAITS]

I'd love to see Joe Abercombie's work adapted. Specifically The First Law trilogy. It has the grit, the diverse cast of characters, and the scale to support a great tv show.

[@longboii77]

Kingkiller is so good but you're right that adapting it correctly would be... very difficult. Not fantasy, but Red Rising could easily be a banger if they do it right. Stormlight Archives is amazing, but I doubt they really start work on a full adaptation until the books are almost done. GOT suffered badly by running out of source material. Mistborn by Sanderson would be sick to see televised, definitely worth the read if you haven't done it. A very tidy and clean trilogy with an engaging world and awesome action scenes, perfect for a series or movie trilogy.

[@evilemuempire9550]

The best parts of KKC I found was the prose and stories, not so much the plot and characters. I think at BEST it would be extremely difficult to adapt, but realistically impossible. The only strength I found it has that lends itself to TV is world building.

[@jakb8401]

Whichever series gets adapted, it would probably be more beneficial to adapt it in animation each with its own distinct artstyle.

[@mix-jk3ys]

Real I was trying so hard to thing of a series that could work in live action more than animation but I couldn’t it’s 99% better in animation

[@bz6046]

Mistborn is being adapted and Sanderson is involved

[@Trippels-c6f]

You are all so right animated fantasy would be peake

[@brokenlantern09]

I still don't understand how the Riftwar Saga by Raymond E. Feist hasn't been adapted

[@gageshippy2256]

What's that about?

[@Rob.d.z]

Arcane is a good one to look out for considering how large the world of runeterra is

[@endymion7850]

those final words had me hit the like button

[@kshuneycutt9]

The next show that will get the level of attention that Game of Thrones got is going to be HBO's Harry Potter series. Yes, the movies will always be a huge part of our childhoods and for many our introduction into fantasy, and yes, a reboot is "unnecessary", but if it's going to happen you can bet your chocolate frogs that all of us millennials who grew up watching the movies and reading the books are going to watch the crap out of a Harry Potter show that will include a lot of what the movies left out (and the movies increasingly left out more and more as the series progressed). The issue I see with a lot of these fantasy shows coming out is that the people creating the shows cannot do it without inserting/immersing their own personal/political ideologies into the show. Peter Jackson made it a point to adapt Tolkien as respectfully and truthfully as he could and the results speak for themselves. Rings of Power, Wheel of Time, Witcher all suffered from this. And sometimes I begin to wonder if the best people/most talented writers are getting the jobs because all of these shows suffered tremendously from horrible writing. I have some hope for Harry Potter as I think the the same person who adapted His Dark Materials show on HBO is doing it, and I think she did a great job with His Dark Materials which was always going to be a difficult show to adapt as the books are quite complex. I would love to see Jim Butcher's Codex Alera series get adapted. It was so cool. I think it is a fun mix of Avatar: Last Airbender and Ancient Rome and a variety of Mythology...It has six books, which is a great length for a tv series, and the series is actually completed! They tried to adapt Buther's Dresden Files a long time ago and it was horrible so I wont hold my breath lol.

[@FrancT-]

You mentioned Hollywood making movies as a reflection of the times we live in. That time we live in is adapted for TV from an AMERICAN point of view. That is the problem here. Nothing wrong with American/Hollywood storytelling, but it simply doesn't fit most classical fantasy stories. LOTR, for example, is written in a completely different time by a British author who fought in World War 1. Rings of Power, by all means, is an American piece of medium. It doesn't fit Tolkien. Part of why the LOTR trilogy worked, in my opinion, was because they weren't too much tied to Hollywood and were given (mostly) free reign. The Witcher is a Polish work of fiction; the adaptation by Netflix is the most pulpy and American thing I've seen in a while. It simply doesn't work. The themes and world-building of the books were nowhere to be seen in the adaptation. Even the costumes didn't look medieval/renaissance, which the Witcher world simply is. I like your idea of adapting more recent fantasy book series, like Stormlight Archive. Those series would be safer to adapt in this day and age. But if you think about it, it's just plain said Hollywood can't adapt classic fantasy right.

[@seto_kaiba_]

Martin is American and he made a brilliant piece of fantasy. Hollywood is in a quality dump phase for sure right now, but Americans have proven they can write proper fantasy.

[@hunterhorsehelmsley7315]

​@@seto_kaiba_don't forget Frank Herbert's Dune. This guy's point makes no sense

[@FrancT-]

@@hunterhorsehelmsley7315 I'm not saying Americans can't write fantasy. Americans can write great fantasy. It's just that many recent adaptations are European by origin and made by Americans. My point makes sense. It doesn't work most of the time.

[@FrancT-]

@@seto_kaiba_ Americans write great fantasy, read my reply in the comment thread.

[@lmostdead]

​@@FrancT-I think his point is any book adaptation these days will always include current political pov (specially American politics)

[@marcos-ll2yr]

The most hyped adaptation that im expecting are indeed fantasy the mistborn future movies. And I'm hoping that Bradley Cooper finally makes Hyperion movie is the perfect rival for Dune have a huge potential.

[@justinbaker988]

bradley cooper makes what now??? is that in the works?

[@marcos-ll2yr]

@@justinbaker988 he bought the rights for Hyperion. He is a producer too

[@Greenslime300]

That's been development hell forever. They should have given it over to the folks who produced Black Mirror. Hyperion works as an anthology and they've excelled at anthology storytelling.

[@justinbaker988]

@@Greenslime300 the first book works as an anthology. If they only do the first book, though, they're gonna have a pretty weak story arc.

[@epiphanytorock5284]

Mistborn movies with the scale of Dune for the gothic architecture would be a freaking amazing thing to see !!!

[@Jacob-gm4hq]

Personally, I think I'd say the First Law series. I think an underrated part of Game of Thrones success is that it was relatively light on magic and gritty/more realistic. The First Law is similar in that way and has good characters, a rich world/lore, and best of all: fantastic pacing (first book is a bit slow though). If done right, this would be a success imo.

[@firecat4529]

4:28 Idk, the War of Wrath was peak middle-earth lore for me, it literally sunk a big part of the whole continent. I think originally Tolkien wanted the Silmarillion to release alongside the tLotR books but the book-publishers denied him this request which is probably one reason for why today many people know more about the actual LotR story and way less about the vast "Silmarillion" book lore, next to it being also harder to read/ comprehend (at least initially) than LotR imo.

[@Trippels-c6f]

Ah thats why the sillmarillon was published by tolkien 5 years after his death by his son and 25 years after the lord of the rings

[@arturobalderas6106]

WB/DC would kill it with an adaptation of Dark Knights of Steel. It’s combines superhero and fantasy and has a lot of pleasantly surprising twists to established DC characters, particularly Batman and Aquaman.

[@oonaghparker8840]

I think it would be cool to see The Black Company series adapted but the world is not ready

[@-clyx-2907]

I read a article on Black Company’ series adaptation in works by IM Global & David Goyer but it's in 2017 and no more new today.

[@elyzc3445]

Also stormlight works perfectly for an "expanded" universe. Since there like 15 more massive books set in the same setting across multiple planets. Sanderson should probably just make his own film studio, knowing how his Kickstarters usually go he could afford it.

[@benarkos539]

Dragonsteel Cinematic Universe

[@Drifter-while-hungry]

I’ve been reading rangers apprentice for the first time, and even though it would be really hard to adapt on screen, and probably wouldn’t get as big as other fantasy series’s, part of me still wants it to happen

[@evilemuempire9550]

Yes! My childhood!

[@jo88sip]

ANIMATION!!!! Those extra animated exposition bits were awesome! I was very disappointed in the show, but those extras were so cool.

[@vishaalsinghchauhan6440]

Tbh, a good and maybe refined visualisation of Hyperion cantos would be intriguing. Maybe in a dune esc style, I think it could be a massive hit for both sci-fi and fantasy

[@mogabalint9933]

Mark Lawrence - The Broken Empire trilogy, and The Red Queen's War trilogy would be pretty cool! Make it R rated as it should be.

[@Cryptexious_]

For any Malazan Fans remember it’s too big and someone would probably just mess it up big time.

[@SilverScribe85]

Fantasy DESERVES a bigger presence in popular media now more than ever. In this age of corruption, social division and the idea of "nuance" destroying the age old concept of Good Vs. Evil; fantasy (to me) provides the perfect method of escapism. More importantly, heroes of fantasy media have held a stronger importance to me than any form of superhero comics. King Arthur will always be the superior hero to Superman, Beowulf is a far grittier figure than Batman and don't even get me started on how much I prefer classical Norse Mythology over Marvel's abysmal take on it (particularly within the MCU)

[@donmujtaba]

From the very little i have read and seen of the Stromlight archive series , it's adaptation , would be amazing .

[@alkazaryyy]

How about Robin Hobb? Katherine Kerr's Deverry cycle? Raymond E Feist? Daughter of the Empire?

[@-clyx-2907]

Hello. Six Studios has acquired rights to the first six books in Raymond E. Feist and Janny Wurts’ international fantasy book series The Riftwar Cycle for television.

[@gegamst7323]

I also would have liked to see Raymon E. Feist's Riftwarsaga, and Robin Hobb's bookseries, the Farseer, Liveship and Elderling series. They may not be the next Game of thrones, but they are great fantasy series.

[@kristinaF54]

I'd like to see the First Age of Middle-Earth adapted for tv where we see the rise and fall of Melkor saga.

[@charliemessano2128]

Red Rising would make a shitload of money if adapted correctly

[@christianayers6943]

Any time I imagine Stormlight as a show/movie I always see it as being animated. And not modern animation like classic Disney. Stone in the Sword style and I think that would be better than live action!

[@theoakty9242]

Malazan is the only adaptation i want to see from someone like Jackson.

[@Manstar]

If you haven't already, check out the First Law trilogy by Joe Abercrombie. I've always thought that would be a fun one to adapt! Otherwise it's gotta be mistborn or stormlight, but as someone else mentioned, Brando Sando wants to make sure it's done right, so it might be a while before we see it.

[@Degrad21]

they already started a mistborn production, which was cancelled/laid on ice for now. stormlight would be really expensive the create the spren in cgi so they look good. but hollywood knows that mistborn+stormlight are THE stories to put on the big screen. The problem is that sanderson wrote the last Wheel of time books after jordan passed away. He sees what hollywood did to the series that got him into fantasy. He is not willing to give up controle over the adaptation to hollywood completely, at least not in the first seasons. And hollywood can't handle an author who does not need the money.

[@dannefan_senshi]

We need a stormlight archive adaptation

[@greg2029]

I hope to see Roger's Zelazny Amber's Chronicles one day. One of my favourite fantasy series of all time, but it seems pretty hard to adapt though

[@red833]

The black company series

[@Michael-tj8sv]

Patiently waiting for a Fourth Wing adaptation

[@ivel2934]

I think Wax and Wayne might be the best Cosmere material for a film adaptation, relatively contained plots, good humor, fast paced.

[@rickriffel6246]

Rather than "another GOT", I hope for series of Elric of Melnibone, the Chronicles of Amber, the Book of the New Sun, not big shows from big books, but cozy shows from favorite book series.

[@zacbranch2083]

Man I wish the Wheel of Time was done well. I would die for a solid Wheel of Time adaptation!! Same goes for an anime-inspired Mistborn or a solid adaptation of The Way of Kings. It doesn't even have to be Sanderson, a good adaptation of any top fantasy series could do well. I've only read the Farseer Trilogy so far, but I could easily imagine a Realm of the Elderlings adaptation. It has a fairly straightforward magic system that wouldn't take much explaining to new audiences and the story and characters are charming and interesting.

[@donmujtaba]

I am writing the next big fantasy series 🙂, its a long , long time till it actually shapes up , but it will happen

[@ralphschneider9652]

The stories of Locke Lamorre would be great.

[@MilesSchimert]

There are so many great fantasy and sci-fi series out right now . Streamers and producers are choosing all of the wrong ones to adapt. It's mind boggling. Just to name a few, RED RISING and ACOTAR/Crescent City would be huge! Just the fandom alone with them would drive ratings. Red Rising would probably be the better series. ACOTAR/Crescent City just has the bigger fandom at the moment. I just hope that the streamers put in the proper budget for them.

[@alassesinda]

"Memory, Sorrow and Thorn" and the "Last King of Osten-Ard" by Tad Williams. MS&T is what inspired GRRM to write "A Song of Ice and Fire"

[@vinfacts11]

You can technically count Dune as sort of a fantasy. I mean it's "sci fi", but it has many fantasy elements too. The two Dune films have immensely been successful!

[@martinkunz7155]

@@vinfacts11 the other dune books really aren't movie material.

[@asura7915]

@@martinkunz7155 i can see being see an adaptation working up until childrem of dune

[@martinkunz7155]

@@asura7915 yeah they could go for it, but i imagine people who watched the adaption of the first book would be quite surprised that the huge galactic war that starts at the end of the book is already over and is barely even mentioned. Felt like a scam when i first read the books.

[@bz6046]

Not immensely successful neither have even made a Billion. I like the movies but they don't have the appeal that Star Wars has or I should say had. Star wars has really fallen off since Disney took over.

[@vinfacts11]

@@bz6046 i'm glad it doesnt have appeal of SW. I'm not sure if kids are supposed to root for Paul .

[@Appel79]

Katherine Kerr..... her books. 😊

[@bilbobaggins8962]

I dont consider the kingkiller chronicles to be TV adaptable. It works very well as a book, its one of my favourites, but I dont think it would not make for great TV. What I'd love to see is an adaptation of The Riftwar Saga. Problem is that its told over a relatively long period of time, so it could be hard to rewrite it to work around that.

[@jkirkland3189]

It's a grave mistake to sell before ten years of publishing it. In itself Brandon's work is a standalone masterpiece.

[@risuenor3652]

Elric of Melniboné 🗣️

[@sparerib5494]

Corum and Hawkmoon, too.

[@sainttaint3585]

The Underland Chronicles by Suzanne Collins would make a good show I think, but I understand the reservations around adapting YA IP. I recently reread the books as an adult and the world is rich with lore.

[@rustyshirleyjr]

I agree with your last thought but I really think the best would be The Pern series by McCaffrey. And you would even have the option to create spin-offs.

[@DarthChosen]

ever since lord of the rings and star wars, the fantasy genre has been coming up and up

[@Mogorman87]

Brother, you gotta read the first law trilogy by Joe Abercrombie.

[@jopay142]

Personnally, I would see a Riftwar & Empire series. Lots of material to stand on (correctly written) and those 2 are so intertwined that it could stand the test. The Malazan Book of the Fallen would also be a good contender. While it stands on HUGE amount of characters and side stories, it's still wery well grounded and solid. A last one that could be a real surprise would be the Runestaff serie, by Michael Moorcock. A very good blend of fantasy & SciFi that stands apart from the other Eternal Hero series (like Elric or Corum). And why not Elric of Melniboné? Because people would confound it with The Witcher, seeing in it a more gritty spinoff.

[@marcos-ll2yr]

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[@armonkaviani7808]

Red Rising would be AMAZING if done right

[@kimayakun1964]

"It's basically Harry Potter if Harry's parents didn't leave him all that gold in the beginning." THAT GOT ME LOL

[@lytalo]

Game of Thrones was a phenomenon because of the weekly release of network TV. People watched an episode and then could talk and speculate about for a week. This built hype. Also the first 6 seasons had 10 episodes. Streaming shows tend to dump several to all episodes at once plus 6 episodes per season often a couple of years apart. This does not build the same hype as GoT.

[@syd7903]

This one might ruffle some feathers, but A Court of Thorns and Roses. Considering how popular the romantasy subgenre has gotten, I think an ACOTAR adaptation could work really well.

[@alien777]

I thought the same

[@jaked6360]

This doesn't mean much but i am working on a fantasy series that circle around the intrigue of court politics and a medieval warlike world that also touches on the day to day life of the lowborn in that world. Been working on book 1 for nearly 3 years now and getting close to being done!

[@nick_czarny]

On point 👌

[@EllenSmyth]

Words of Radiance is even better than Way of Kings. But yeah. However, I do wonder if they shouldn't start with Mistborn because it will be decades before Stormlight finishes, with Era 2 Stormlight using the same central characters as Era 1. That may be true of 1 or 2 Mistborn characters, as well, but not to the same degree. And it would be far more forgiving to use different actors even for these exceptions.

[@bz6046]

Sanderson is starting with Mistborn he is working on trying to get things rolling. Sanderson wants to do Mistborn first before he tackles Stormlight as an adaptation.

[@danielr3587]

Would love to see warhammer 40k show!

[@K4neki_CNTP]

Just stopped to say, I loved this video. Have a good one :)

[@jayfeather965]

It’s unbelievable how bad the first two seasons of Wheel of Time is considering the first two books of wheel of time are some of the most interesting and enjoyable!

[@alien777]

For me alan wake and contral are going to be the biggest TV shows, when they Hit TV. Hopefully they do not get cancled , Fingers crossed.

[@burge2695]

Stormlight needs to be created like arcane...they could do so much more with magic or chasmfiends etc ...live action comes off as cheesy sometimes...

[@nobilismaximus]

Riftwar riftwar riftwar!!!

[@ricojose187]

I honestly believe filmmakers need to start hiring authors as lead writers and authors need to understand they have to be hands on.

[@Falstaff0809]

Great idea. But like Sauron, lawyers and accountants don’t share power.

[@monkeymox2544]

I'm not a huge Sanderson fan, but my main criticism has always been that his prose is uninspired, and that it's like reading someone who has tried to write a blockbuster and/or video game in prose. Which makes me think that his work would probably adapt to screen very well. The best things about Sanderson's writing are the worlds and the stories. For me personally, I think a screen adaptation of his work, done well, would have the capacity to exceed the source material.

[@po0l837]

agree on stormlight archive but that going to need a BIG BUDGET. them action scenes are no joke :)

[@jorisgarcia6927]

For what it's worth, the wife and I really enjoyed season 2 of the wheel of time. More than the 1st. Thought the world building was solid with Tar Valon and the Seanchan.

[@ulurag]

I think fantasy on screen lost its way long ago already for the same reason Tolkien didnt like Dune. Someone shiuld really take a huge step back and ask what kind of deep collective unconsious well of vision we should drink from. Tolkien had a moral and ethic that was lost and forgotten and had significant value. What lord of the rings really teach its reader is so much more empowering and beautiful then what lessions can be made from Game of Thrones...

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

I think one of the biggest issues is that a lot of major productions these days are starting to look and feel the same. They don't have their own flaire and visual language anymore. It all has this bland, hyper-sterile look. It doesn't feel real and grounded like Lord of the Rings or the original Star Wars movies did. I honestly doubt someone could tell a frame from The Witcher, Rings of Power or Wheel of Time apart purely based on visuals.

[@TheDasilva1]

Tolkien never specified why he disliked Dune. Our hypotheses on why he didn't like it are, well, that. Hypotheses.

[@TheDasilva1]

GoT does gives you that "everything is dark, empty and things like honour and a sense of duty are meaningless", but ASOIAF is far more complex like that. I could write so much about it, but I will give you a brief example. Ned Stark and his son were ruthlessly executed by amoral people. Despite this, their teachings, honour, sense of duty and kindness is still remembered throughout the North, which is why the Northern houses *hate* the Bolton and Frey (well, besides the fact their kinsmen were also murdered in the Red Wedding, of course) and are planning to rebel, as implied by Lord Manderly.

[@ulurag]

@@TheDasilva1 It is easy to draw conclusions about why though, among the basic principles that guide Tolkien's writing is the alignment of personal morality and the greater good.

[@Azrael32]

2 words:- Red Rising

[@patrikneperfekta7575]

All kinds of tales from Runeterra (LoL lore) is definitely part of the future. It is weird Arcane wasn't mentioned in the video. It's not high nor really medieval fantasy, but you did mention Star Wars, which is even more sci-fi.

[@tarvoc746]

3:56 - "The most interesting moment in time in the history of the whole fictional world..." - Except for the forging of the Silmarils; the destruction of Laurelin and Telperion; Feanor's oath and curse and his hunt for Morgoth; the events leading up to the doom of Beleriand; the tale of Beren and Luthien (which Tolkien himself has called the most important story in Middle Earth, by the way); Nirnaeth Aenodiad; Tùrin's story; Tuor's story; Earendil's story; Akallabêth and the fall of Numenor; the founding of Gondor and Arnor; the first Ring War... honestly, the Lord of the Rings is almost more like an aftermath. This entire video is testimony of you not having read the Silmarillion. The stories in it are *much* larger and more epic in scale than the Lord of the Rings. Tolkien just didn't work them out into full novels for rather complicated biographic reasons. The point I would make here is actually a different one: It's that I'm pretty sure no one but Tolkien could do them justice. That's the problem with your metaphor of world-building as potential energy. No, not all the potential energy in Tolkien's world-building went into The Lord of the Rings, not by a long shot. But also, that doesn't mean this potential energy is just lying around waiting to be used. It's tied to the person of Tolkien, his specific talents, knowledge, personality and outlook on the world. Tolkien in particular did not build his world as a sandbox, and he had a strong distaste for people who would use it like that. Other fantasy writers may be different in that regard. I know I am. But also, few of them are as good as Tolkien.

[@TheNicoliyah]

I would love to see the Belgariad on screen

[@stanimirmitev5384]

Dungeons and Dragons settings looks fresh for the taking. There was the movie last year that did recently well. Wound not mind seeing a show based on the Icewind dale trilody and the prequels. Though the books are relatively short, so it will probably succumb to writters/directors trying to extend each book to the typical 8x 40-50 min series. As a super darkhorse, maybe Magic the Gathering. It has the player base, maybe with some decent execution it can be made to work?

[@bz6046]

Joe Manganiello tried to get Dragonlance done as a series but WOTC shelved it.

[@giorgitsereteli2809]

I think Stormlight could be adapted well into something like a cinematic universe since it is not overly concerned with being literary fiction. KKC in contrast I think would only work as a prestige tv series and even that is a stretch. Rothfuss relies on his prose to do a lot of heavy lifting which won't be easy to adapt.

[@Nolderrivlen]

I haven’t read the Stormlight Archive so I can’t really comment on that but as a side note to what you’re saying I think I know which series could be a big hit in the urban fantasy genre, which the ABC show Once Upon A Time showed us there is a significant audience for. The Landover series. It is dying to be made into a tv show and with it’s connection to the real world we all know to bring in “normies” as well as a more comedic tone than a lot of other fantasies have it would work perfectly as an ABC or CW show or something. Not a big HBO spectacle but a more charming and character driven experience. Regardless I am dying to move past the disappointments of the last few years and get something new that is actually good.

[@wabba67]

J.V. Jones and the Sword of Shadows would make for a great "next Game of Thrones". Sadly, including the element that the author probably will never finish the book series... (started as a trilogy, previous book was published in 2010 and the upcoming "final" book might not even be the last one).

[@harrysolas2802]

What made GOT cool was the brutality. The story showed no mercy in the way it eliminated main characters. It was brutal in its depiction of sex. The torture scenes were on the verge of being unwatchable. It was the adult answer to Harry Potter. My guess is the next big thing will have to be another genre. Wizard of Earthsea is a great series. I would love to see a GOT version of that series.

[@lmac40762]

My picks would be Malazan if money was no issue. The storm light archives for the game of thrones replacement, or the gentleman bastereds for a more small scale fantasy

[@ectogamut]

Just got done watching the latest season of Vox Machina and looking forward to the next season of Arcane!

[@LlamaGlamaa]

I think Disney may have a good thing going with the Eragon TV show, if they are allowed to delve more into the darker elements and not make it for kids.

[@mattcrumbley6923]

I’m actually so excited for the Dunk and Egg show. It should be unique in that it shouldn’t fall into the GOT world pitfalls. Since they’re all self-contained, finished novellas, the writers will have the whole story to tell and won’t need to extrapolate (see GOT seasons 6-8) And since there are no dragons in that time period in Westerosi history (spoiler, sorry) the show should not fall into the same budgeting constrictions. The show should be a little more nuanced, focused more on intimidate character interactions, rather than spectacle; which won’t be for everybody sure. But I’m beyond here for it

[@alien777]

Comedy is the next genere to get big again, mark my word. It is the next thing.

[@johnwhiteX]

Mistborn would be easier to adapt

[@derekhutchins5528]

Wizard and Glass is so good. My favorite King book. So sad Amazon scrapped it. I watched the movie EXACLIBUR last night and thought the story of Arthur would make a great epic film or tv series. It’s been done before, but not for our generation and not with the budget and sincerity the material deserves

[@armonkaviani7808]

I urge you to give the second season of Wheel of Time a chance. It’s not the “next Game of Thrones”, but it was MUCH better than the first season and I enjoyed it.

[@NCSDFL]

No it wasn't. The characters were totally mismanaged. The beauty of Jordans work was the innocent coming of age the Edmond fielders went through. This series was so bad I can;t believe Harriet and Sanderson aren't taking them to court. DON"T WATCH IT.

[@enlightmentxv1548]

The biggest thing that's stopping producers from getting their big "next game of thrones" are the producers themselves, they don't care about what they are adapting, so they don't have faith in the product they are making, so when it doesn't make a fuckton of money they drop it, when not even GoT made a fuckton of money at the beginning

[@NCSDFL]

Great view of the Wheel of Time. I started reading this in 1991 and was waiting for this since..... What a terrible attempt at a great story. Words can't explain how bad Amazon did with this. I like John Gwynne and would like to see his books turned into a good series.

[@lightscorer1320]

I think The First Law could make a great show but Im worried they will try and whitewash the characters since preatty much everyone in the book is kind of evil. Also PLEASE let Gloria have internal monologues. I know its very rare in US series but his character will work so much better with them