What is the PERFECT Fortnite Meta?

[@proberius9393]

Ngl I think the Aug deserves a spot in the ar's slot.

[@gashousesgeekhouse2851]

I agree, the accuracy of the gun is insane but it's not that affective against builds. It's a good balance.

[@TxntFPS]

Very much so along with the Heavy AR with its buff

[@AntonyP24]

@@gashousesgeekhouse2851 aug was my favorite! Very fun

[@i.amrath]

True

[@MaxTheeGamer1]

the aug used to be my favorite, but once they changed it to 2 round burst (instead of 3) i stopped using it and just started using the normal one

[@nttsight1564]

They should have a mode where every single item ever is unvaulted. On top of this they should make it so each item has the same stats as when it was most overpowered

[@CatMelon12]

That would be so much fun

[@christiankim1224]

bro the lootpool would be so fucked if that happened. Theres been too many items added to fortnite over the years to make that reasonably possible

[@erek3034]

This is so cooked

[@jaycyclondo]

including things like infinity blades and zapatrons? thatd be unplayable

[@sam_the_dusty4156]

s0 pump shotgun😳😳😳😳😳

[@Justicul]

I hope the infantry comes back 🤞🏻

[@jacksonnovak6550]

I LOVE YOU JUSTICUL

[@tdmdez9123]

Justcul

[@ren9332]

Justicul 😳

[@lassea521]

I‘n my opinion the infantry is just to op on KBM

[@ren9332]

@@lassea521 it requires skill tho and no aim assir

[@SP2SP2SP2]

Great list except the snipers. Maybe I’m just missing something but always thought the general opinion was the hunting rifle was easier to use than the real snipers. Plus the purp/gold hunting rifles have insane reloads and hip fire. And honestly the only sniper not having a scope just doesn’t feel right.

[@proco7794]

agreed. also think launch pads or rift to go's must be in the game

[@noahperez2369]

Heavy snper is the way to go

[@osianosohzrz]

​@@noahperez2369both, heavy and hunting rifle

[@pigeonjoey]

I don't know how the flint knock hasn't come back yet every KZbinr loves it bc it enables trick shots and it requires good aim to do enough damage to be good

[@UziPeak]

Yeah i like the flint knock i want it back but the hit box on the bullets are a little to big but over all I want it back

[@Abdel-ny8ft]

nah you don't need that much aim to do big dmg when you see how big the bullets hitboxe's is

[@brentbeukema7215]

yes but they should reduce the headshot dmg

[@16bitdude36]

I feel like the tac is really good for high ping players because you can take walls more easily and because it is more forgiving if you miss

[@TxntFPS]

It’s broken cause it can 2 shot wooden walls with a purple/gold tac

[@eatsand525]

@@TxntFPS only purple and gold. Not grey to blue. Just make purple and gold tac do less build damage.

[@swampyfn1380]

@@eatsand525 no bro that would Just remove some outplay tactics

[@DanielTheUncoolio]

Yes. It promotes less skilled gameplay which is not what you want in comp

[@typhlosion7872]

I really want the pulse rifles to stay in. I love the risk/reward aspect. They can barely apply any pressure at all if ADS'd, but the bloom is awful when hipfiring, however, it is still rewarding if you can hit your shots close range as the damage when hipfired is similar to that of an M16 or Scar while the reward for good tracking and crosshair placement is insane as it can delete a healthbar in seconds if your aim is good enough. The one thing I think should be toned down is the headshot multiplier. I think the gold should only do 65 to the head so it doesn't go from a 4 shot with full shield to a 3 shot with full shield.

[@typhlosion7872]

@@user-tn4rl1oq3s Nah. The accuracy is far worse, both when hipfired and when ADS'd. The only advantage is being able to shoot faster while ADSing. The pulse rifle even has 1st shot accuracy for every single shot when ADS'd

[@typhlosion7872]

@@user-tn4rl1oq3s The Infantry Rifle always has bloom whereas the pulse rifle doesn't have any when you ADS. The pulse rifle has first shot accuracy on every shot when you ADS, which does make it more accurate than any other rifle that isn't a sniper rifle. I've beamed people for 3/4 of their healthbar often with the Infantry Rifle, but its factually less accurate due to bloom and the first shot accuracy on the Pulse Rifle on every shot when ADSing.

[@typhlosion7872]

@@user-tn4rl1oq3s The recoil is the bloom. The infantry is factually less accurate due to the bloom when you ADS. The pulse rifle is more accurate because every single shot has first shot accuracy and it has nearly no recoil. The first shot accuracy on every shot when ADSing in and of itself makes the weapon more accurate than the infantry.

[@damiend6485]

100% true I just love pulse rifles

[@ahaha272]

Sadness

[@mumfrie4117]

They should make a throwable grenade that acts like the recon scanner but it doesnt have any recarge. It drops in 2 stacks in 4 or 6

[@notquinn3036]

That’s actually so smart

[@luca6384]

Perfect idea

[@7salads996]

Basically a clinger with io mechanics

[@PikaPlayz]

Your A GENIUS

[@Jackmalatches]

on board with this idea!

[@stepbro1992]

Launch pads can be used by other players too, so it is a win win situation for everyone. No one wants to get stuck in the zone.

[@arcy3752]

I think the pistols that should be in the game are: revolvers, flint lock and purple and gold pistols. Shield bubbles should 100% added in. The charge should be buffed so that people see it as a viable pick against the pump and it's a 5050 between which you pick.

[@swampyfn1380]

But i would make IT smaller

[@tnytmytx]

hand cannon

[@whyhsgjabcsjsjsjn]

Actualy the tac ar came back in season 5 with the io gaurds dropping them.

[@carg0_b00m]

Bruv io guards didnt spawn in arena and comp.

[@gashousesgeekhouse2851]

Tac are is pretty good, it's never my go to are but it's still a good gun.

[@carg0_b00m]

@Whopper Burger that's what I meant, also there were less tournaments with io guards then there were with no io gaurds.

[@swampyfn1380]

@@carg0_b00m yes they did for some timd

[@dontworryaboutit4606]

Shield bubble was the goat in reducing 3rd party.

[@ADMICKEY]

Until you were able to put it on a mech on a hover board

[@JS10K]

I'd really like to see an update to this video since there has been so many new guns and items since the video has come out and so much has changed. The shotgun meta has continued to be experimented with, but instead of drastic changes, there were a lot of small tweaks with similar archetypes. The AR meta has added both red dot guns as well as now projectile bullets (even last Chapter with the DMRs) it's become a more prominent part of the game. Even just the role of mobility items that take up an inventory slot has become a permanent staple of many players' loadouts. Not to mention Zero Build becoming thing and having weapons and items that suit that mode as well.

[@tahsanhossain6196]

We just know this is perfect

[@bbunkey]

He predicted the EXACT sniper nerfs in chapter 5

[@evanwirth7881]

Okay for the shotgun you need to have a multi shooting shotgun so I say combat shotgun since it can work well with the tactical AR and it can be used in similar ways to the charge and pump

[@unkn0wn8_8]

They didn't know what meta was about to come... The Spam meta.

[@latrelldub]

very good and reasonable list, but id make a few changes. 1: add in a burst ar, this is the perfect middle ground between a standard ar and an infantry rifle, just like the tac is a good middle ground between the ar and smgs. 2: add a tac shotgun, and MAYBE replace charge shotgun with something like the combat, heavy, or ranger. 3: i think the smg should only be purple/gold and be a lot more rare, and have something like the suppressed smg or drum gun from gray to blue. 4: hunting rifle as the only sniper is weird, instead have the bolt sniper and a buffed semi sniper that takes the role of the hunting rifle but not as busted. 5: there has to be a basic pistol, its the basis of any shooter game to have a standard handgun like that and finally 6: rpg, but very very limited rocket count, like 3-5.

[@yollo213]

Epic has to hire this man

[@keith8225]

He's a caster for fncs

[@matthewmaybury3793]

@@keith8225 that doesn't mean he works for them

[@FelineDeskFan13]

I love the meta you made, but personally I’d change a few things: 1 remove Chug Splash and add in Slurp Juice 2 add the tac shotgun 3 have both the bolt sniper and hunting rifle instead of just one of them 4 add spike traps (but nerf them to 40-50 damage each instead of 150) 5 add the grappler 6 add duel pistols

[@tymonherchel6807]

if spike traps did 50 damage they would be completley useless

[@pasticcamoncioni2492]

i hope that if this meta comes to pubs too it would be primal season pt2

[@Piebomb]

Just three things, the AR slot is totally messed up imo and instead of the tactical AR, we should have the burst, and instead of the infantry rifle, we should have the AK. Shotguns: keep the pump for sure, instead of the charge, it should be the tac, and add the lever-action in. For SMG’s, the rapid fire would work well if only grey to blue, but the Normal smg’s would be grey to gold

[@eatsand525]

I agree with all this except for infantry and lever. Infantry Rifle rewards aim and precision outputting massive damage. Vault the tactical AR for burst but keep infantry.

[@sandman9620]

Only thing i would add to this is maybe driftboard, or quadcrash. Just to make the rotation more fun, while not being OP, because someone with good aim could easily beam someone on a quad or a drift board because they are not protected by anything.

[@sa_maccas2266]

Such a good Meta, if only Epic would listen. Maybe add the Tac shoutgun

[@cosmaaa]

My perfect fn: ARs: Combat AR, MK, M16, Infantry Rifle, (purple and gold only) famas Snipers: Bolt, Hunter Bolt, Hunting Rifle SMGs: Silenced, Burst SGs: Pump, Lever, Tac Pistols: Deagle, Pistol, (purple and gold) Revolver, silenced pistol, flint knock Explosives: Grenades, GL, RPG Utility: fishing rod, harpoon, tires, rift to go, pro fishing rod, inflate a bull, treasure map, smoke grenade, storm flip, crash pad, presents, boogie bomb, cardboard box, gas can Heals: shield keg, splash, minies, bigs, slurp juice, bandage, med kit, guzzle juice, med mist, pizzas, meat Foraged items: peppers, corn, apples, shrooms, cabbages, bananas, fish, hoprocks, coconuts, zero pt crystals, candy, meat Map mobility: fish, hoprocks, zero pt crystals, sand tunnels, ziplines, water, rifts, tornadoes, sharks, klombos, geysers, lighting storms Vehicles: cannons, ATVs, helis, planes, cars, trucks, boats, shopping karts, ATKs, driftboards Traps: bouncers, launch pads, campfires NPCs and their services: exotics(weapons and heals), bounties, weapon upgrades, heals, hiring(to fight for you) Currencies: crown, gold(for upgrading and trading w NPCs), mechanical pts(for sidegrading) Animals: sharks, boars, chicken, frogs, wolves, crows, klombos Interactive elements of the map: vending machines, upgrade benches, campfires, bounty boards, ziplines, animals, chests, ammo boxes, vaults, doors, vehicles, structures (breaking them and editing if they are ur own), buried treasures Overall changes: have major LTM rotations every two to three days, multiply player surveys, add jetskis, remove all aggressive NPCs, vault mythics, vault armored walls, nerf AR and SMG structure damage, add skis, vault environmental damage, bring sandstorms the the game that can randomly spawn in the desert biome (they reduce visibility), make it so that sharks cannot jump out of the water, make it so that wolves and boars dont try and break though structures, bring back geysers, make it so that when you throw meat on a campfire it cooks and gives twice the health, add eagles to the game (are the same as crows, so purely for the aesthetic), add a reset on release option in the settings, and unvault syphon in pubs and LTMs

[@KwikBR]

My perfect fortnite: ARs: mk-7, epic and legendary burst AR (pre c2s3 nerf), and infantry Snipers: Silenced sniper. SMGs: Stinger smg and compact smg Shotguns: Pump and combat (pre season X combat nerf) Explosives: Boom bow (legendary one) Utility: Inflate a bull, shield bubble, crash pad, impulse grenades and spidey mythic Vehicles: driftboards, ballers, C2S8 Mechs, helis NPCs: the henchmen and bosses where you can get mythics Animals: Sharks, Klombo

[@emanisfunny2455]

I think this is cool, but we ditch the competitive viability and add every single rocket launcher that was ever in the game in all rarities

[@iamthesaint]

🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[@abhay8424]

My best shotgun meta would be Pump Tac Charge and Lever for pubs and Tac Charge Lever or just Tac and Charge for Arena. I just don't think Pump and Charge would make a bad meta, especially with the fact that Pumps have now been altered, but you should have shotguns that favor different playstyles. Pump and Charge would have a relatively same playstyle, just the charge would be a bit defensive, but if the tac got buffed, and came with charge and lever it would make the meta diverse which could be more fun since you can CHOOSE. Another thing is that I don't think bandage bazooka should come back, if you get it from chests it increases rng, if you only get it from drops it's useless, if it doesn't recharge in zone, again, useless. Except that I think your thinking for the next meta is goated.

[@hawkmothh4765]

I do think the pump should be in arena, as it is most peoples favourite shotgun. If they put it only in pubs, some arena players would play pubs simply because there is the pump. What you said about the bandy cannon is so true though, it would be so not worth if you couldnt use it in zone!

[@abhay8424]

@@hawkmothh4765 I guess, but the pump is undoubtedly the most powerful shotgun, if you have it, then everyone is like, if you have any other shotgun, try and find a pump. If you buff any shotty more powerful than the pump, they get broken (like primal). And the pump is less skillfull than other shotguns because you have higher 50-50 wining chance due to high damage. But I do agree with the fact that since the charge has top end damage, pump charge could reduce rng, but it's just too clunky. Tho pump charge will certainly be a very interesting shotgun meta.

[@abhay8424]

One thing everyone can agree on, grey shotguns are very weak. The damage is just not worth it. I could take an smg and have a higher chance of winning an offspawn fight.

[@hawkmothh4765]

@@abhay8424 Yeah pump and charge would be interesting, people could play for to their strengths. Pumps were way less balanced in season 4 when everyone was running around with spazzes and if you didnt have one you were at a huge disadvantage, especially because purple ones could 200 pump. But with how relatively rare spazzes were this season, I think it was balanced and fun. I get why you think they are 50/50, but tbh I need to use piece control and building and editing in order to make the most of the pump and line up shots. With tacs, for example, they are best used in box and you just have to pray you line up more shots. But at the end of the day epic will do what they want hahaha

[@abhay8424]

@@hawkmothh4765 yes true lol

[@1Hit_YT]

For the rotate the crashpads are just the best

[@Chris2507-f1r]

Not really

[@w33shy26]

For SMG's, I feel like the epic rapid fire smg would feel great as well, faster fire rate but less damage and smaller magazine

[@noonenobody4282]

my ideal loot pool:shotguns: pump,tac, heavy ars:scar,ak,infantry,supressed scar smgs:normal,p90,suressed snipers:hunting,bolt,heavy heals:med mist,minis,big pot,medkit,bandages,chug jug,slurp

[@Bobchickenstein]

part 2 for chapter 5 but you also discus weapon mods?

[@ClippedByPeterGriffinFortnite]

I think there should be a boss that drops an infinite grapple like skye or Jules but accept for that great job

[@johndolenc7658]

I love how some AR’s can be used as SMG’s or SMG’s as AR’s. For example the pistols, or the MK-7. Also some snipers can bee used like an at, like the DMR, or scoped AR depending on how good you are. I’m just trynaappreciate that epic really encourages each person to have a unique play style. I could use the mk and pump with a slurp cannon and slurp fish. It would be omega overpowered.

[@brianv7906]

If only you knew what was coming when this came out

[@garfieldlover93]

no deagle is a bad choice imo. it's a high-skill based weapon which can be deadly if you're good

[@keith8225]

I'm so happy you included the tac AR, that gun is a hidden gem and no one ever talks about it

[@davysmiley8555]

I pretty much looove everything about this, but the only two things I’d put in is the Crash pad and Rapid fire SMG.

[@abhay8424]

Crash pads are the worst, they make everything chaotic. Imagine you are set up, ahead of zone, good mats, and then little timmy crash pads in your box and wins a 50-50 against you. You can't do ANYTHING. They affect too much and other players. They also increase server lag A LOT. The rapid fire is pretty good tho, especially if you run out of ar ammo.

[@davysmiley8555]

@@abhay8424 ok but what if u can get out and be very slippery, plus if the crash pads made the game laggy why not limit how much you can hold and minimize how big they are I still they should be added just a little hard to get maybe…

[@carg0_b00m]

@UC8-1ee_bXmZeEXUftoJRNFQ limiting the amount and size of the item doesn't matter to padding into a stacked kids box and winning the 5050. Dumbass.

[@davysmiley8555]

@@carg0_b00m did someone sit on food when u were eating? It was just a suggestion and theory u can calm down.. 😒

[@Doodle497-]

The only thing I'd change is having the current version of the heavy shotgun in and having slurp juice for healing.

[@aqers3957]

It wasn’t in the game when he recorded so he didn’t have the option

[@astra6485]

The current heavy is God awful

[@TDYT103]

not a lot of people seem to miss it but man, if the hoverboard comes back I would be so happy. I remember going in creative and testing out all its abilities and angles and zooming over mountains and I just want to do that again.

[@stokedsteezy]

Fax bruh tricking around on the hoverboards was such a fun way to kill time in mid-game lmao

[@yashee3421]

Personally I think the current lootpool is probably the closest to competitive perfection, literally only thing that I'd tweak is adding hunting rifle/bolt and shockwave grenades which would make it a lot LOT more fun, shockwave huntings are just vibess. Also there should always be a default sniper like the bolt

[@swampyfn1380]

No i would Love tac Charge lever because all of them are balanced and ITS Just more fair. But they would need TO make the tac damage more consistend but Pump Charge IS a Bit better

[@NATIVE1605]

Any meta with the flintknock is a good one

[@shahancareem6986]

i reccon an updated version of this vid would blow up no cap

[@babylion122]

no shot he predicted the reload lootpool

[@johnbrown-zr1zq]

The tac shotgun should be vaulted forever. The season 8 shotgun meta is really good rn.

[@C00LB0B77]

For throwables/explosives/mobility I mostly agree. There’s definitely some places to add onto mobility and throw able items. There should be glider grapples bc it’s balanced, hard to use in battles, But a good mobility item. We also need just some form of thrown explosive, such as like dynamite if it wasn’t so devastating on builds, or if we just nerfed grenades so they cant be used with the mark trick to air strike, and they do 40 damage, then they’re fair. Probably just like make them a bit weaker to builds and heavily decrease the range they can be thrown. Then, if flare guns didn’t ruin wood builds from fire, they wouldn’t be that bad, they can still have that explosive landing for damage, or be used to mark people, and it’s probably fair I we remove fire

[@disclaimerimnotasimp3880]

i dont think the chug splashes should be in the game because you get cracked with a pump and someone builds in full metal gets back to full health way faster then the normal heals

[@GibberishDraw]

would really love too see a new version of this videos leading into S5

[@saltygam3r75]

I like the silenced smg because it's damage output is significantly higher than the standard smg

[@Adityxs]

Fortnite would be the best game ever if epic listened to reisshub

[@devox9868]

If this was the meta next season it would be really good

[@Flipper1234Gaming]

"you can never have a meta without the regular AR"... :')

[@astra6485]

Don't need an ar this meta all you need is 5 smgs and boom here is your fncs pickaxe😂

[@wavesAU]

I don't 100% agree, but very entertaining video, and a great, balanced opinion. Great job!

[@willbaldock1739]

When he said no launchpad I thought you disgust me

[@vpruli6058]

for shotguns the pump should only be available from grey to blue, and add tacs, so charges, pumps(only grey to blue), and tacs would be my perfect shotgun meta

[@jokepolice-yv5dy]

what's the hate with explosives they shouldn't be in competitive but i think they would be fun in regular

[@exact5752]

Honestly the lever/charge meta was the best

[@ItzLeyak]

Pumps are better and way more fun

[@vnqy8684]

'p90s rip too much' welcome to chapter 3

[@PriminarkTV]

They added bullet drop again lol chapter 5 season 1

[@phantomski1]

Still don't know why tac AR has a scope but doesn't use the scope

[@Chris2507-f1r]

It does now

[@R1-_-]

I would have aug and ak, charge, lever and pump, suppressed smg, suppressed pistol, suppressed sniper, and harpoon as the main items

[@gigi_jwz]

dude i remember back season 3 ch1 where you had the supressed pistol you had to wait a year before you could shoot

[@Rodrigo.Gui_R]

Your videos are always So interesting! I love your content, keep it up Personally, I only disagreed with the snipers portion, because I simply don't like them, and the hunting rifle is also pretty easy to hit with Another thing, in chapter 2 season 4, the tac wasn't brought back, the shotguns were Pump, Charge and Combat, and the charge got vaulted. I really like the charge shotgun and I would love for the shotgun meta to be Charge, Pump\Lever and Combat, however, the chapter 2 season 4 combat was unusable, so I'd like a buffed version of that, without it being abnoxious, like the chapter 1 combat shotgun. As for the tac, I hate it, keep it out. :)

[@lucaszavzavadjian8970]

Actually I don't wanna be annoying but let me correct you there. At the start of Chapter 2 Season 4, we had Pumps combats and charges but in the Fortnitemares they vaulted The Charge Shotgun

[@swampyfn1380]

Why

[@swampyfn1380]

He was also wrong that season 7 Had charges

[@lucaszavzavadjian8970]

@@swampyfn1380 yea

[@astra6485]

@@swampyfn1380 there was but as he said you needed to sidegrade them

[@idontmine7215]

they should add the flint knock back but make the hitbox smaller or it does less damage. i was legit using it as a secondary shotgun cause of how much damage it does

[@Ethyro]

Chapter 3 doesn't have the normal ARs so it's funny to watch this back haha

[@them3ta_93]

And now we have the smg meta... epic needs to see this video

[@YaBoiiMarz]

I will always think chapter 1 season 8 was a fairly balanced (besides ballers being just the best) its when i played the most competitive fortnite and when i was activally trying in tourneys. Plus season 8 just had a good map imo made the competitive play really enjoyable and felt fairly balanced.

[@sluptrackajt7240]

0:33 think again reiss...

[@zakizdaman]

The one we got right now is perfect, but we need chug splashes, floppers, and slurps to make endgame viable. Im referring to base weapons, dual pistols, bolty (no heavy snipe), the spas, tacs, flint knock is pretty toxic you could get rid of it

[@AlessandroTCarta]

Ok, i'm nothing more than a casual player but there are two weapons from this video that i really don't want to be back: 1. The Flint-Knock is just extremely annoying, I'll be fighting normally and then someone using this just deals ton of damage AND knocks me back and its also way too accurate, it has a long reload time to punish missing shots but that never happens 2. The assault rifle : In my opinion the only AR that is worse than it is the makeshift ar, and that one IS supposed to be bad but the normal ar is just so inaccurate in comparison to every other assault rifle and neither the damage nor the firerate make up for it.

[@WottsOG]

Personally, I really like the ch2s5 shotty mega with the dragon, charge, lever, and tac

[@Drafan423]

Now do it again but with all the new weapons even though i think it is fairly balanced

[@phineasduke9832]

Btw the tac was never in c2 s4, it was in season 5 along with the charge and lever.

[@obamahimself2885]

Traps are so underrated. Bring back launchpads and spike traps.

[@callumhartopp8349]

Hey who remembers the chug jug update where fortnite servers were down for a day and we all waited for them to come back but they just didnt untill the next day

[@Para_SP]

this was great, and you explained everything (extra points).

[@Thetileguy420]

i would add one more smg maybe the tactical smg or the original smg from chapter 1 season 1

[@ragequiter-te8rx]

what about jetpacks(og) and you didn't say what pois but it was a great idea

[@DanielRamirez-rc5nt]

0:30 epic. "😈😈😈😈 how little do you know" chapter 3 season 1

[@wyvernau1946]

Even though I love them, great for clips and super fun to use. Pumps just aren’t it when we want a season to be super balanced, charge tac lever dragon breath is the best for shotguns personally

[@TRKite]

Add in the tactical shotgun, the primal smg, grenades and or rockets launchers and replace shockwaves with the shockwave bow

[@Chris2507-f1r]

Primal smg 💀💀💀

[@TRKite]

@@Chris2507-f1r it has the same dps as the normal smg with a lower fire rate and higher damage per shot, its the perfect second option

[@unclemakon]

R.I.P combat shotgun

[@Perseverer57]

fully agree exept for maybe flint knock

[@provivadex482]

I literally stopped playing when double pump was removed

[@lil_math7764]

I feel like you need a tac or auto shotgun for newer players.

[@Chris2507-f1r]

That's what smgs are for

[@lil_math7764]

@@Chris2507-f1r ya but a lot of casuals love the tac and other shotgun. The game needs to have something like that

[@1egendX]

agreed! thats exactly what i and everyone else wants

[@archflamingo9156]

For the shotguns I would add the heavy and the lever action shotguns

[@snufss]

i don't agree with the shotguns. maybe you only need a pump in higher elos, but in lower you usually pair it with an smg, and having the choice to either go pump + smg or tactical is nice

[@hi-qj9sh]

For pistols, I would chose hand cannons and flint-knock

[@phantomski1]

I think best shotgun is the double barrel 😎

[@cash5512]

The spaz needs to go into the vault. It's so ridiculous op it's not even funny. The silenced smg was perfect in late ch1, viable but not op. I would just buff that and take out the normal smg. The chug cannon shouldn't be in the game 100% agreed Surpressed pistol yes pls. The late ch1 version was the best one. Same for flint knock Purple and especially gold hunting rifles r op. 100 bodyshot damage and 200+ for a hunting rifle is op. I would add the green/blue ones For utility, I would love to see the cow, shield bubbles, Impulses ( I agree with u shield bubbles are the best item ever. Season x also had some good aspects...) and NO MYTHICS PLEASE

[@ItzLeyak]

If they remove pumps im not playing. Every other shotgun sucks tbh.

[@cash5512]

@@ItzLeyak I said spazes, which are by far the strongest shotgun and it's not even close. Why removing them when u could nerf them? If u want to balance spazes, than pumps would be to weak... So vaultimg them is the easiest way They are in ch2 s8 btw 👌

[@armynukenuke4773]

you're fun at parties

[@landon7336]

Good list except shield bubble

[@Teamert]

watching this back with the current meta. *Starts crying*

[@remycullen6879]

You could swap out the infintry for the pulse rifle

[@Lorachzwan]

I'd absolutely love to get the tac AR and flint knock back into the game. Keep the inflate-a-bull please Epic! ✊😔

[@ourtinyisland]

I actually liked the tactical pump meta most

[@valen7081]

What do you think about vehicle mobility? I think we should have hoverboards back. What other options are there?

[@arjunbubbar2089]

So good except wouldn't have hunting rifle it just makes headshot snipes so easy.. also charge could be swapped to tacs only purple and gold with slightly buffed damage and instead if you are adding charge then some adjustments should be made

[@TorchFN]

i agree but maybe they add tacs instead of removing charges cos charges are really balanced. Also i dont think buffing the headshot damage on tacs would be good maybe only body and maybe more range.

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

@@TorchFN horrible shit take. Why tf would you buff body damage on the Tac and say "I don't think we should buff the headshot damage"? It already does 88 freakin damage and shoots 1.5x a second. If anything, buff the HS multiplier to at least 1.75 because 1.5 is too low.

[@bigsmokecat3566]

@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 na 1.75 would be too op maybe 1.6

[@TorchFN]

@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 I said this cos tacs hit for so little to the body some times not buff damage I meant reduce bullet spread

[@TorchFN]

@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 I don’t think headshot dmg should be buffed it already does enough and I wouldn’t want to get tacked for 170 when a purple spaz does 189 and shoots half as fast

[@ATAT1212fourth]

I feel like the combat shotgun should be in the meta as well

[@nathax]

Watching this while waiting for the event, we'll see the meta soon!