What is the REAL Galatian ERROR?

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@jacobstacko3056
@jacobstacko3056 Жыл бұрын
Doing good works when your eternal life is secured just makes so much more sense than doing them to maintain your salvation. They come from the heart and love rather than out of fear of hell. It allows you to focus more on your neighbor and less on yourself.
@ManImJustSomeDude
@ManImJustSomeDude 3 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head brother, it is definitely hard enough to find a gospel preacher on YT or an actual church. I’m glad to add this channel to my list of things I can watch that are edifying and rightly divided. God bless you sir.
@wechitoteopiz7590
@wechitoteopiz7590 6 ай бұрын
Tnx for the sound teaching Pastor Jesse. May God bless you more.
@michaelfishbeck384
@michaelfishbeck384 5 ай бұрын
Pastor Jesse I have been listening now for a couple of weeks and spot on brother!!!! I am so encouraged by your messages. The last one about the "Lord, Lord" was truly amazing. I have been a believer for over 25 years, and I always skimmed over the "will of my Father" and its meaning. Absolutely beautiful fresh revelation, thank you!!! Praise Yeshua Hamashiach, our Great God and Savior!!!
@Hated_Without_A_Cause
@Hated_Without_A_Cause 2 жыл бұрын
Amen! I think you hit the nail on the head! When they misapply Galatians 3:1-5 to the Christian walk, they corrupt the doctrine of discipleship.
@Song_of_Praise
@Song_of_Praise 2 жыл бұрын
The “they” in this case don’t even believe discipleship is possible for the Christian. Captured in soundbite on my last video.
@Song_of_Praise
@Song_of_Praise 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hated_Without_A_Cause The kjv….they literally pull it up on recorded screen and teach from kjv & say it’s “not possible” The folks this pastor is talking about, the doctrinal “founder” of such heresy is exposed in my latest video It’s VERY dangerous and damning heresy They (them and their cult following) viciously attacked pastor Yankee Arnold Wild stuff, definitely the last days
@Hated_Without_A_Cause
@Hated_Without_A_Cause 2 жыл бұрын
@@Song_of_Praise I find it very profound that anyone could read the Bible and not believe discipleship is possible for the Christian. However, I know who you are referring to and it wouldn’t surprise me that they would teach such.
@Song_of_Praise
@Song_of_Praise 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hated_Without_A_Cause It’s literally in soundbite Wild stuff I hope more see and run from him or anyone teaching such lies But we know we’re in the last days and it’s simply not going to happen Rather, the King is coming Oh yea….his close circle recently said on community post in black and white “Jesus is not our King” Smh shocked 😯
@Hated_Without_A_Cause
@Hated_Without_A_Cause 2 жыл бұрын
@@Song_of_Praise I’ll listen to your video. 😯
@allysonp2254
@allysonp2254 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, as always!!! This ministry proclaims absolutely correct Bible teaching!!! As you are well aware, you are one of the VERY few! No compromises!!!! THANK YOU!
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Thanks for the support. - Trent
@soc5830
@soc5830 11 ай бұрын
Being "galatianized" is someone that is in the midst of their deception by believing a works front loaded or back loaded gospel. Great message Pastor J!
@soc5830
@soc5830 9 ай бұрын
While listening to this again. I don't see the verse that says we will be disciplined when we don't do good works. min. mark 9:49. Titus 3:8, and 2 Corin. 5:10. Ephes. 2:10 and Gal. 6. However, I see this verse below. Ephesians 1 3¶Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: I see we are blessed with spiritual blessing in Heavenly places In Christ. Unless I over looked something about being disciplined if we don't to good works. I do believe in chastisement according to Hebrews 12. AM I over looking something? 🤔 Great teaching on the Galation Error... Let me know your thoughts Pastor J. I may have a blind spot on this one. Just need some clarification.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 9 ай бұрын
@bro.jamessoc5830 Hebrews 12 is a key area. It’s Fatherly discipline. I would argue concerning 1 John 5 and the “sin unto death” is a form of discipline to those who continue walking in their flesh. The Fatherly discipline is regarding sin in the life of the believer. The Corinthians are prime example for this. They even were told to abstain from fellowship from the guy that slept with his father’s wife. Many of the were sick and died due to their sin (1 Cor 6 and 1 Cor 11). Let me know if this short answer helps some. - Trent
@soc5830
@soc5830 9 ай бұрын
@BibleLine Hey Trent thanks for the speedy reply. I agree with Chastisement for sure. Let me go back listen again, I thought Pastor J, said we will be disciplined if we don't maintain good works? I will go listen again.
@soc5830
@soc5830 9 ай бұрын
Bro. Trent go listen to 9:49 min mark.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 9 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s essentially reaping and sowing. God blesses those who serve Him. If you do not serve Him, you won’t receive such blessings, and God may even chasten you. Not doing works is sinful because it’s that of omission. To him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not; to him it is sin. Sin always brings forth some form of death, and that can come in the form of many consequences. This is of course barring that of eternal death. - Trent
@Briguy75
@Briguy75 8 ай бұрын
If i didnt have family in Ohio, i would move to the great state of Florida to belong to this church 😊
@sorenpx
@sorenpx 8 ай бұрын
That is real enthusiasm.
@goodshorts
@goodshorts 2 жыл бұрын
Praise Jesus Christ every day. The clear gospel is clear in scripture!
@davidbusciglio5529
@davidbusciglio5529 11 ай бұрын
Clear as crystal, and amen, Goodshorts. Thru faith alone in HIS singular sacrifice alone, once for all and forever, ie, thru HIS shed blood. The ransom price already paid in FULL. ...John 19:30, Hebrews 10:10-14.
@skippy3136
@skippy3136 11 ай бұрын
Great stuff as always. Leading a Bible study on Galatians and will be using this video as a resource.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! - Trent
@rodgerrabbit279
@rodgerrabbit279 3 ай бұрын
Positionaly we are secure but practically we can be out of fellowship which seems obvious to me. I’ve experienced this over the years. Thankfully I’ve had someone to encourage me to repent and get my life right again. But I know I’ve always been secure in salvation. Thanks for the study.
@connerproffitt504
@connerproffitt504 2 жыл бұрын
Tit_3:8 " *This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to **_maintain good works_** . These things are good and profitable unto men* ." What Paul says confirms what Jesse has mentioned. This verse has _nothing_ to do with attaining or keeping eternal life, but maintaining good works which are *PROFITABLE UNTO MEN* . This is so the believer is not _unfruitful_ in their life. (Titus 3:14) Therefore a blessing for doing works as a believer ( *someone who has eternal life* ) is to have _fruit_ . Great job Jesse!
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Conner - Trent
@The_Amnesiac_Philosopher
@The_Amnesiac_Philosopher Жыл бұрын
I wish I had known of this church when we lived in Orlando. I would have gladly driven to Tampa for the services.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine Жыл бұрын
Well thank you! You can still come visit one day! It’s neat to have viewers come by 😃 - Trent
@kM-ij2ly
@kM-ij2ly 7 ай бұрын
AMEN brother an excellent teaching.
@rosemarietolentino3218
@rosemarietolentino3218 7 ай бұрын
Amen! Galatians 5:4.
@gregorylatta8159
@gregorylatta8159 Жыл бұрын
Sound doctrine as usual!!!
@TheJesuslover122
@TheJesuslover122 5 ай бұрын
thank you for this, very helpful!
@DuaneBeliveau
@DuaneBeliveau 11 күн бұрын
Christ Jesus Crucified and Christ Jesus risen that's the Foundation we are building on.its finished works for Salvation and a relationship with God..We are not finished works yet.. It's coming the hope of Glory promised ❤
@thejess2225
@thejess2225 2 жыл бұрын
Amen🕊 #galatians #therealgalationerror #truth #soulwinning #falsegospel
@Gymcat9
@Gymcat9 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I learn from you. God bless you.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Thank you for the encouragement! - Trent
@biblebeliever2795
@biblebeliever2795 2 жыл бұрын
They don't rightly divide between Position VS Condition. They will look at verses which deal with positional truths, and then automatically apply them to the Christian's practical condition. E.g., they will go to Ephesians 1:3 where it says we are blessed with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ, i.e., our position. And then ignore passages like James 1:25 where it says those who are doers of the work will be blessed in their deed, i.e., our condition. The Bible teaches both: There are blessings which every Christian receives by virtue of being "in Christ", but then there are other blessings which are conditioned upon each believer's personal faithfulness.
@danielrutigliano7938
@danielrutigliano7938 Жыл бұрын
My personal faithfulness will ONLY put my eyes back on me and off of Christ. All the good works we maintain and should maintain are done in Christ. We are just walking in them.
@fredpena643
@fredpena643 9 ай бұрын
2 forms of Lordship salvation 1 Arminian Lordship salvation that's works at the front door 2 Calvinist Lordship salvation that's works at the back door By application there is no difference both are false gospels and are under Paul's double anathema
@Hisfaithful_Berean
@Hisfaithful_Berean Ай бұрын
Thank GOD for this video. I was starting to feel condemned for teaching an accursed gospel, and it scared me to death. I began to feel condemned for wanting to live a pleasing life to the Lord by yielding to the Spirit in my walk with Him. I teach faith alone in Christ alone for salvation. Lately, I used the scriptures to point out error of teachers like Gregg Jackson (youtube name Salvationiseasy) and David Benjamin and Rodney (youtube name metanoiaandbelieve). Then I was suddenly attacked saying i was reprobate and teaching one must keep the law to be saved or stay saved when I never said that. Literally I was slandered and falsely accused. Granted, Rodney (metanoiaandbelieve) apologized and did listen to what I was saying after much insisting that I was NOT teaching one must keep the law to be saved or stay saved. I was tempted to take my latest video down (Salvation Vs Fellowship). I didn't, though. It was distressing. I began freaking out thinking I was teaching a false gospel. God forbid I say ANYTHING that may cause someone to come under a yoke of bondage! I came out from under the false doctrine of "lordship salvation" several years ago, and so I recognize how tormenting it is being told to keep the law/commandments in order to "be saved" or "stay saved". That is THE LAST THING I ever want to do. I want people to believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE for salvation and experience the joy and peace and liberty we believers have in Christ!
@BrotherDave80
@BrotherDave80 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN!! Such nonsense being propagated by a few individuals on KZbin. Well done Pastor, these people claim grace but are most vicious.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave for the support. - Trent
@Hisfaithful_Berean
@Hisfaithful_Berean Ай бұрын
No joke. It just happened to me.
@cheriecorbello1006
@cheriecorbello1006 2 жыл бұрын
*_Amen Jesse!!_* Thank You for doing this Pastor. 💯💯💯🙏❤
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support - Trent
@danielfraser643
@danielfraser643 10 ай бұрын
If a person can say for themselves or someone else that a particular deed is "good", therefore according to the plans and purposes of His Will, then that person is claiming to be God Himself. I'm constantly surprised how many people with a little Scripture knowledge plus doctrinal tainting, are limited to provincializing an All Powerful God.
@watchmanendtimes
@watchmanendtimes 6 ай бұрын
Wgat does accursed mean?
@watchmanendtimes
@watchmanendtimes 6 ай бұрын
Ia sprwading a fakse gospel a sin unto death ?
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 6 ай бұрын
It could be part of it, but the sin unto death is probably more of an amount rather than a specific sin. - Trent
@kaioken654
@kaioken654 Жыл бұрын
Would keeping the 10 commandments be keeping the law or is this talking about the scarfises and what not? Or are both the law?
@winterpatriot1429
@winterpatriot1429 Жыл бұрын
Quick question - What is the [evidence] an individual has been saved?
@BibleLine
@BibleLine Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ’s shed blood. Have they believed? They’re saved. 1 John 5:10-13 - Trent
@winterpatriot1429
@winterpatriot1429 Жыл бұрын
@@BibleLine so the evidence isn’t in a person’s works, or a “changed life”? You’re saying the evidence is based solely on their profession of faith?
@BibleLine
@BibleLine Жыл бұрын
@winterpatriot1429 It’s based on the fact that they believe in the one who died for them, yes. 1 John 5:10-13 is very clear. - Trent
@winterpatriot1429
@winterpatriot1429 Жыл бұрын
@@BibleLine good. Just wanted to make sure there was no backloading works. I, too, believe we’re saved by believing in Him alone, and that the only evidence we need is that we’ve believed the Gospel. NOT that we “do this” or “quit doing these things”. Lots of lost people “do this” or “quit doing that”. Sub’d.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine Жыл бұрын
@winterpatriot1429 Yeah we address this quite often. No front or backloading. No works anywhere are required for salvation. Works are good and profitable to the believer for the Judgment seat of Christ and to profit others. - Trent
@AppalachianHistoryDetectives
@AppalachianHistoryDetectives 4 ай бұрын
So Jesse, does the Bible define what God's Chastisement is? Ananias and Saphira lied about what they had, but is this a clear example of Chastisement or unbelief? In I Cor 5 we are told if all of our works be burned up we will still be saved, but for the one whose works were burned up, we are not told that individual was chastised all their live even unto death. So God frees us from the obligation of works for salvation, but then requires it to the point of death? One could be full of joy, peace, love, longsuffering, but have foolish thoughts (sin) and God chastises him. Really, everyone sins but my obese brother in Christ at church struggles with self control in the food he eats. Is this brother of mine under God's chastisement for having health risks? I'm trying to understand. In reality a Christian could be chastised everyday and beat themselves up over it. The key is perspective. God Chastises those he loves, and it is for growth, and more good works. Any reward we receive is at his mercy and pleasure and determination. I think good works by leadership leads to pride, so back into chastisement they go...
@missys7823
@missys7823 5 ай бұрын
The Judgment of the Nations 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, 33 and he will put the sheep at his right hand and the goats at the left. 34 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; 35 for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? 38 And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? 39 And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ 40 And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family,[g] you did it to me.’ 41 Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
@gethsemane-777
@gethsemane-777 Жыл бұрын
Your statement, "if you think you can lead a life of lazy leisures and get away with this," it can lead to confusion, could potentially cause confusion. New believers might mistakenly believe they need to follow Moses' laws and lead a Christian lifestyle to receive blessings. Some saved LGBTQ+ individuals might fear punishment for their identity if they were too weak to overcome it. It's important to note that Jesus isn't against leisure or even laziness. I've seen jobless Christians who play video games all the time. They share the gospel whenever they feel the call to an audience that couldn't be reached by regular pastors. God knows we needed salvation due to our failures and doesn't use our flawed nature for rewards. We can find rest in Jesus and grow spiritually. Being the best version of ourselves aligned with the fruit of the spirit is important, but work and discipline isn't the requirement for rewards. Otherwise, It's like getting a free smartphone only to discover it has nothing and you need to pay for its features. Rewards are still tied to faith and our testimony.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine Жыл бұрын
We don’t point to the law in telling people to not be lazy. Proverbs has much to say about laziness, but James even more so. Salvation is not a reward; salvation is a gift by faith alone in Christ alone. Rewards do not simply come just because we believe in Christ. Yes we are given eternal life that cannot be lost, the Spirit, justification, children of God, and etc… Those are given at the moment of belief, but God still desires his children to serve him. This service isn’t a legalist stance, but we can’t be antinomian either. James very clearly says faith without works is dead (not to be interpreted Calvinist or Arminian). You are supposed to (commanded to) work so that you may bear fruit and profit others. However someone may serve the Lord is okay. We are to yield in obedience to the Spirit of God. Rewards do come from these efforts. Notice 1 Corinthians 3:10-16, 1 John 2:28, 2 Cor. 5:10-11, and James 2:12-14. There is some form of loss (not heaven…) to believers that are lazy and do not serve the Lord. - Trent
@gethsemane-777
@gethsemane-777 Жыл бұрын
@@BibleLine we might agree to the same thing if we agree that rewards isn't gained by following the laws of Moses. For instance, no one is losing blessings for eating sea food, or even eating in a eat-all-you-can buffet. A gay isn't losing rewards for still being gay (I'm not gay by the way). A person isn't cursed because they're not going to church or reading the bible daily. Actually, 'service' (becoming pastor or a street preacher) isn't for every believer and isn't the sole way to keep rewards. We receive rewards the way we're walking in the spirit, as said in Galatians 5:22, and it has nothing to do with the law. For example, 'saved' gays/lesbians can walk in the spirit by sharing the gospel with other people of their community for knowing they're saved and being grateful for it. A gay can love others, be peaceful and gentle, have strong faith in the blessed hope, etc. It's the same for everyone struggling with all sort of sins. I know chain smokers and drunkards who walk in the spirit and they do everything to share and protect the gospel, some of them are very good at edifying others in their faith.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine Жыл бұрын
@gethsemane3309 We’re called to a higher standard than the law. The law condemns, but grace is loving and forgiving; yes. Nevertheless, homosexuality, drunkenness, lying, etc… is still condemned. This doesn’t mean we go to hell, but every time you sin, you’re literally going against God. I don’t even need the law to point this out. I could show you in Romans or Ephesians. Sin is still against God. A homosexual that believes will very well go to heaven, but continuing in the homosexuality is sinful and against God’s plan for the believer. It’s adultery, and adultery is still wrong for a saved person. We all still sin, but sin is never excused. Will I receive reward whilst in my sin? Probably far less because sinning causing breaking in your closeness to God; and you probably won’t witness the more you sin. I know this from experience. - Trent
@Song_of_Praise
@Song_of_Praise 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. This “doctrine” begins with one person. I was led to do a video on it. It is my latest upload. It is damning to the babe. A denial of the new creation & MANY other severe doctrinal issues.
@petrarenatus1464
@petrarenatus1464 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this "doctrine" began with Paul. I saw it in the word before I heard anyone else say it. However the "doctrine" that is spoken about in this video is a misrepresentation of what we are saying and what Paul clearly teaches. The Spirit is the blessing of the gospel. You can't earn more blessing than what you already have in the Spirit by faith. Saying that you have to do good works to gain what you already have in the Spirit by faith is Galatian error. I have blessing through justification. There are blessings and curses offered through the law but we are not under law and no one can keep it. The gospel secures my blessing which is the Spirit. And note it says that the perverted gospel is NOT another, it is the saving gospel but one which only gets you to heaven and does not provide blessing through the Spirit. It puts you back under works for blessing that you already have if you believed the gospel.
@cotydanger4071
@cotydanger4071 2 жыл бұрын
@@petrarenatus1464 Nobody knows what you are saying because in one video you say something and in another something different that contradicts the previous. I have had many conversations with Pastor Jesse about your’s and the others in your “camp” (for lack of a better term). We’ve tried to pin point what you are saying, what you believe, asking “maybe they are just explaining what we believe in a different way?” Or “Maybe we have misunderstood they’re teaching?”. We consulted the scriptures, I have personally prayed about it. I’ve listened to your videos and a lot of Mr. Benjamin’s. Your doctrine is wrong. I myself, got sucked into this teaching when I was a young Christian, it sounded so great, so simple! I actually began to teach it to others. But, the more I learned and studied the word the more this doctrine fell apart and only served to jumble the scriptures into a mess. David, you and others of this doctrine are mean and backbiting at times and I don’t think you have taken the time to consider that. I urge you, sincerely, to reconsider what you are believing and teaching. Maybe take a step back and just ask God, “ Am I wrong?”
@petrarenatus1464
@petrarenatus1464 2 жыл бұрын
@@cotydanger4071 I'm sorry you don't understand what I'm saying. I've had the opposite experience, I listened to people in the pulpit and only ever heard heavy burdens preached, and when I actually looked at the scriptures for myself, I found the opposite to be true, Christ has taken our burdens. I am not against "good works" as many would like to say about me. I am all for good works that Christ as my life does in and through me when I'm walking in the Spirit, setting my mind on the things of the Spirit, renewing my mind in the truth, knowing who Christ is, what he has accomplished and who I am in him. I take no credit for my good works because they are his. I approached Galatians from looking at the blessings and curses mentioned and I saw that there is a perverted gospel that is the one that saves, it is not another, but it says you have to go back to works of the law to earn the blessing that you already have in the gospel by faith. The blessing is the promise of the Spirit, which we have by faith. Christ provides everything in his Spirit. I am just to walk in what he has already given me. I urge you to forget what you have been told about Galatians and read the whole book to see what it actually says.
@cotydanger4071
@cotydanger4071 2 жыл бұрын
@@petrarenatus1464 I have read Galatians, the whole book. I actually read it recently as well after learning of your way of interpreting it and trying to find in it, what you have taught. I do not agree with your assertions. There are certain things that you talk about: Walking in the spirit, our identity in Christ, our flesh never being able to please God, our not letting our flesh reign not by forcing it to obey (which it never will) but by yielding to the spirit: that the Bible also says. But I believe you have twisted some of those things and, in my opinion, made them confusing and empty. I think the whole doctrine of our “walk” as believers is simpler than you make it. It does seem Petra, that you are against “good works”. If that is not how you are meaning to come across, then I have misunderstood, but so have many others. Please know that I, or others I speak to about this issue are not against (I speak for I and them alone, not others) you, but I am adamantly against this doctrine. As I mentioned before, when I was a babe in Christ, I began walking into it, but found out that the scriptural truth was much simpler and practical than I was being told.
@petrarenatus1464
@petrarenatus1464 2 жыл бұрын
@@cotydanger4071 I am loyal to God's word. If you see something different in the word, so be it.
@frankw.1721
@frankw.1721 5 ай бұрын
believers will have 2 natures until death--1. the sin nature…the one we are born with 2. the new nature…being born again or born from above. these are always in conflict. living a victorious life only comes via living according to the Holy Spirit, the new nature. This is the only viable, biblical, way to be a disciple. anything else is of the old nature, the flesh, and is fleeting, perishing, and can only produce bad fruit even if the fruit looks okay for a while.
@skokenos
@skokenos 10 ай бұрын
What do we do with Hebrews 3:14 ?
@watchmanendtimes
@watchmanendtimes Жыл бұрын
Repent of sins?
@BibleLine
@BibleLine Жыл бұрын
We have a video called "What does Repent mean..." - Trent
@watchmanendtimes
@watchmanendtimes 6 ай бұрын
​@@BibleLineI mean this would be ab accursed gospel like Ray ?
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 6 ай бұрын
You do not have to repent of sins to be saved. You have to repent (change your mind) about Jesus and believe in Him to be saved. - Trent
@montyeason3973
@montyeason3973 6 ай бұрын
You can fall from grace, Paul says in this letter. Some people say otherwise. I believe PAul. People who aren't in grace can't fall from grace. Only those who are in grace can fall from it. Paul's warning is against believing circumcision(having to become a Jew as a CHristian and follow the Law of Moses) is required for salvation. Paul also warns the church(believers) as he does in all his letters don't think that because they are saved by grace through faith that somehow that innoculates them from falling from grace by living according to the flesh and not by the spirit. Both are true. He gives that long string of sins and then says I tell you again as I told you before that they that do such things shall not inherit eternal life. He's not saying unsaved people will not inherit eternal life! Duh! He's telling the church grace isn't a license to live in sin. Which just saying you lose rewards points, doesn't cut the mustard. Between trying to save yourself by your own merits and believing how you live as a Christian doesn't matter one bit as far as salvation is concerned is true saving faith and being led by the Spirit. To be led you have to be willing to follow and not resist kicking and screaming. FOr he that soweth to the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap eternal life. You reap what you sow, that will never change.
@paulgross3067
@paulgross3067 5 күн бұрын
Jesse Martinez, I applaud you how you love the gospel of Jesus Christ but I wished that you would understand and try to do the same for his creation for Jesus never created a spinning ball earth in space and yet Christians believe in a spinning ball planet in space this is a strong delusion. This is a huge lie and a cover-up. I wish my fellow believers in Christ Jesus Would spend the same amount of time in the meat of the word, knowing good and evil it is evil to think you live on a spinning ball planet, especially when Christ never created space the way that the world says it is Christ never made a gigantic sun that is larger than the Earth. All of this is a bunch of lies, and like I said, I applaud you for going through the gospel and rightly dividing the word of truth, but when it comes to creation, boy or Christiansbuying into a spinning ball earth in space, I hope one day you come out of that lie
@michaelparks5669
@michaelparks5669 3 ай бұрын
Mormons had experiences with Father and Jesus. Their religion is not based on angels. The reference in Galatian has to do with the Early Christian leaders who left the church to become Gnostics. Paul, John and Peter warned saints about a falling away in their day , seeking after wicked teachings that denied that Jesus died on the cross. You should not apply it to today's issues.
@michaelparks5669
@michaelparks5669 2 ай бұрын
what no response Jesse?
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 2 ай бұрын
You’re 1 of 300 comments this week. Nonetheless, the point can apply because Paul was referencing a broad point. If anyone (including himself) speaks a different message, then let that person be accursed. Mormons do speak a different message of salvation. - Trent
@michaelparks5669
@michaelparks5669 2 ай бұрын
@@BibleLine #1 Mormons do not speak of a different message of Salvation. They believe Jesus died on the cross for the sins of all mankind. #2 The Gnostics claimed an angel brought a new Gospel which included a new understanding of Christ. They said he did not died on the cross. He only appeared to. The term is called "Dotecitism" Which by the way is what the Muslims believe. Some of the heretics were former Christian leaders who claimed to be Apostles. Jesus himself warned of their fooling people. Revelation 2:2. There are other verses I could quote. You need to study Early Christianity a bit more.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 2 ай бұрын
@michaelparks5669 I’ve witnessed to a Mormon. They believe many works are required to be saved. It’s no different than Islam actually. - Trent
@Drewzilla95
@Drewzilla95 8 ай бұрын
Define good works. That's important. Being nice isn't special. Your works are observing Torah and attending Gods feasts dressed in the Passover sacrifice. Period. Pauline Christianity is FALSE DOCTRINE.
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