What is the "Sweet Spot" for Horsepower on a Motorcycle?

[@Xlac]

I’ve been riding for 36 years on all kinds of different motorcycles. I recently purchased a 2024 Yamaha XSR 900 at the age of 49. I found this motorcycle to be very satisfying and entertaining. This Yamaha triple has the power and torque where you need it on the street. It’s light, nimble, sounds good and it’s comfortable.

[@TheDreamcycles]

Ditto! I'm 45. After 7 bikes of varying power/size and I have settled on my 2024 XSR900 too. Absolutely perfect usable power!

[@Bf0st3r]

Me too, 45, and just bought a 23 XSR900 and feel the same way. Its just about perfect!

[@rns6889]

This segment of bikes are the sweet spot, street triple, Duke 890 990, mt09, monster.. All these seem very entertaining

[@leanit5756]

Same here, with a '23 XSR. Been riding 48 years. Pretty much perfect street bike.

[@AgisPetikides]

Yeap the XSR 900 is the perfect street bike for me too. With one little detail though. I have installed the s2 concept “clippon” handles and made it a propper street fighter also suitable for the track.

[@Farwalker2u]

I have a 2018 Triumph Street Triple R. It's about 400 pounds and about 115 HP! Love it! At age 72, I love that I can ride at a range of levels.

[@obeii1805]

Just post a comment on my 19 speed triple rs .. these are very friendly and forgiving bikes ,it’s my first and it’s completely manageable, I have no issues

[@chanmanthegreat1429]

I bought the exact same bike in the exact same color 2 months ago as my first bike. Love it! Mine has a power commander on it and a full yoshi exhaust. I cant figure out how to change power modes or use the power commander though. I have it stuck in rain mode...

[@Wyrmjello]

It’s like the old adage; “It’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.” my current motorcycle has 150 hp and I’m constantly having to reign myself in. It’s too easy to go way too fast. Thank you for promoting the sport of motorcycling by educating new riders.

[@MrLove-666]

On the other hand, I can say this adage: "always fear the motorcycle that you drive. When you stop being afraid, it's when accidents happens for feeling too comfy."

[@nlmaster9811]

Better than not being able to pass at highway speeds.

[@Jon-nz3dm]

@@nlmaster9811 Any 650 class bike and up does not struggle to pass at highway speeds. Aka 60-70hp. Maybe not as fast as we all would like but still faster than most cars

[@skylarkesselring6075]

​@@Jon-nz3dm shit my cbr500r has a top speed of 110-120mph. I can pretty easily pass people going 80+. Only way you're struggling to pass on the highway is if you have a 250cc or less.

[@Jon-nz3dm]

@@skylarkesselring6075 I'd get a supermoto if they weren't all 300cc or in suzuki's case 398cc with only 5 gears! I just can't believe no manufacturer will give us a 450 with a headlight and 6 gears!

[@tckpsa]

Z900, perfect right in the middle. You can ride it to work, you can chill on a group ride, you can open it up on the freeway with the liter guys (if theyre nice and let you keep up) you can do wheelies. Love mine.

[@TwistofWrist]

Yep. I've had my Z900 for 6 years now. Just got new tyres, front rotors and brake pads. Feel like a new bike again.

[@Kwikasfuki007]

I've ridden the XSR900, and it was fun, albeit the previous generation, but I always liked the look of the Z900. Had a 2010 Ninja 650 for 14 years and upgraded last November to a 23 Z900 SE and wondered why I didn't do it sooner. Had no idea how much more suitable having 125 hp on tap with loads of torque was for the streets. As you all said, drive around town like it was a Grom, but heavier, or open the throttle and wake up the dragon, lol. I cannot see a need to have more power and torque for what I do with a bike. Perhaps a different style for a different purpose, but not more power.

[@avothfis]

​@@TwistofWristNice❤

[@exothermal.sprocket]

It really is the peak for the 85-120 horsepower range. Steeping up from that, you're clear up to over 140 hp with the GSX-S1000. Z900 has a butter smooth engine and makes broad torque, more than people think. Below about 8000 rpm it gives up nothing on the category one step up.

[@The.JZA.]

Love my CB650R tuned with 95hp and I still have a lot to learn before I am using everything that it has to offer. I just installed a G2 Ergonomics throttle tube with 10% quicker throttle turn and man it’s nice. It really perks up the bike, making it feel more urgent and responsive. Still the same power but just more responsive to hand movements. The stock 90° 1/4 turn throttle felt way too long. Loving it. I’ll make some videos of it soon.

[@bille.334]

I got an XSR900 for my first street bike. I do have experience racing cars and riding dirt bikes, but this bike still feels pretty dang quick. It is an absolute blast to rip through the gears up to about 100 mph or so. Lots of shifting gears, comfortable, and it looks pretty sweet, too. I'm happy.

[@langhamp8912]

I have an XSR900 as well, and I use the power modes a lot, much more than I thought I would. I think power modes is the way to go because you get as big or as small as a bike as you want. Right now, that's not a popular opinion but I think as the older generation retires or dies off power modes and electronic aids will be accepted as making riding more enjoyable and safer.

[@JoeStanek-vu7rl]

These bikes are very quick to 100mph.

[@Jon-nz3dm]

@@langhamp8912 30 years old, starting on CB650R or a Trident next week. Still not 100% sure, buying privately and CB650R's are super hard to find. I have been eyeing used MT09's and Street Triple 765 R in my area. It's really a question of how much I want to spend and $6-$7k seems a lot better than $9-$10k for my first street bike.

[@verothacamaro]

@@langhamp8912do the riding modes default back to original setting after every start or does it remember your setting?

[@langhamp8912]

@@verothacamaro It remembers all your settings except cruise control. However, you must close the throttle to change rider modes. Also, I didn't realize until 6 months after I bought the bike...cruise control can be cancelled by pushing the throttle beyond the stops.

[@skippyvonbudro2919]

Recently purchased a 2024 MT07 and I gotta say, that is my sweet spot. Perfect for what I wanna do with it and I can still have some fun on the weekend. Daily that bike, I love it. Be safe out there everybody, more and more "self driving" vehicles on the road mixed in with drivers who are stuck to their phone and not paying attention.

[@kjaubrey4816]

I rode my friend's first bike home for her recently. It was a 2008 Honda Rebel 250. I had fun riding the little bike and it did fine on the highway. I haven't ridden an old style Rebel since high school so it was a bit nostalgic.

[@Logan-tf6nk]

A big thing to consider is the elevation you ride at. I ride from 6,000 to 12,000 feet and the difference in power from sea level to 12,000 feet is 30%, it makes your mt09 closer in power to a mt07.

[@chrisconway5028]

Great point! I rented an FZ-07 in Maui and rode up to the top of Mount Haleakala, from sea level to 10k feet in about 45 minutes. The FZ-07 is a fun bike at sea level, but at 10k feet, it's power output was in the 400 range, and it became rather boring. I live at 9000 feet, and mostly ride between 8,000 - 12,000 feet, and my sweet spot is my XSR 900! Like you said, at these elevations, the CP3's power output is pretty comparable to the CP2 in the MT-07 at sea level.

[@aprilandsuzi550]

Rsv4 at sea level the sweet spot 👌

[@Bubbles99718]

That's a good observation

[@exothermal.sprocket]

115 wheel HP does not drop to 72 horsepower just because of 6k elevation. Don't exaggerate.

[@Bubbles99718]

@@exothermal.sprocket He said at 12k. Lol, always double check before trying to correct someone.

[@boomjykeo2]

I just bought a CBR650R (2023 version) a few weeks back and I’m loving it. The speed limits where I’m at are at most 90km/h (under 60mph) so there’s hardly any point in getting anything bigger. It’s more than fast enough for the highways, I’ve been the first one off traffic lights every time too. That said, I’m waiting for the R9 to officially be a thing, that’s the only one I’m upgrading to here.

[@DatNSpect]

My “sweet spot” is the bike I can afford😪(I don’t have a bike yet)

[@logangodofcandy]

Used bikes are cheap

[@DiagolonRider]

you'll get one... nothing more magical then your first bike, the butterflies you get before every ride and all the ups n downs you go thru learning to ride it...a first bike to me is similar to your first love lol

[@SongJLikes]

Look forward to that day, friend… it will change your life for the better if you do things right

[@gelz4296]

Nothing more sweeter than admiring your hard earned bike 😊

[@CaligoNight]

Don't buy the first bike you go look at, look at a few at the very least first, take a friend that knows bikes to go look at it with you and find out what other people are asking for similar bikes

[@melindazikursh8825]

My nerd mobile, Honda NC750x has all the hp (58) and torque (51) for commuting and casual relaxed rides. Plenty of power to zip along on highway but still average 70mpg it’s thrilling enough for me 😂

[@HikerDave57]

My NC750X is the previous generation at 51 hp. Traveling with luggage in the summer in the mountains it’s slightly lacking but normally I’m very satisfied. So I’ll say that my sweet spot is also 60 HP or so.

[@LunaStarFire]

I got the manual nc750 and its amazing, honestly in the uk the roads dont need the extra power. Nc750 is the sweet spot as a swiss army knife for road use It would be under powered for a track day though

[@rtg1018]

Here in Thailand, my daily rider is a 125cc Honda Wave with 10hp and that is used 90% of the time. When I feel I need something spicier, I go with my 155cc Yamaha "Exciter" with 18hp. When I need to answer the call of the wild, I go with my very spicy Triumph Street Triple 765 RS with 128hp. Each bike fills a sweet spot for me and suits its purpose just fine. I believe mastering a small bike first is the way to go, and that will better prepare you to make use of the full potential of a bigger bike. Even though I've owned liter superbikes with more hp in the past, 128hp is more than enough for any kind of road use I'll ever do.

[@JoeStanek-vu7rl]

I have a 2023 MT09SP as well, I absolutely love it. My Aprilia RSVR hurt my back and wrists. Don't kid yourself the MT would take the Aprilia to 100mph.

[@liamtobey2936]

Little bit older bike, but I just bought a 2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R. And it perfectly falls in this category. Absolutely LOVE IT!

[@LordMcKrakenVonLittleBits]

Middleweights are the best all rounders to me. Your Mt09, my Z900Rs, they're very similar in delivery of power. To a seasoned wrist, middleweights can be spicy enough if you press them a bit but also forgiving enough that a small mistake doesn't become a big one. It's nice to have solid launches and smooth cruisin without having to either go full send on a smaller bike or 600 4 banger or wrestle with a bigger bike. Took going through 7 bikes to find that magic zone and realize what gets the endorphins going.

[@Saltybuttercuts]

So glad that I found this channel. I have not had a bike in over 10 years and are just getting back into research to see what I am wanting to invest in. I have seen a lot of feedback but most of your videos have assured me that the bike I'm leaning towards (MT09) is certainly one of the best choices.

[@terrywoodard2648]

Same i love my 2024 mt 09 more than enough power comfortable sounds amazing with an exhaust decent suspension just an amazing bike

[@smoof6119]

Just went from a Ninja 500 to a new S1000rr. It is complete overkill but I like having the power on deck if I need it. In AZ if you're not doing 85-90mph on the highways, you get ran off the road by overzealous dodge ram drivers and the 500 was almost redline at those speeds. The best bike is the one that puts a smile on your face whenever you ride however!

[@Bredahl84]

The sound of the MT-09 is THE most relaxing sound. It tickles something in my brain that just relaxes me. Love it!

[@theenzoferrari458]

Nah. A good inline 4 is where it's at. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[@Bredahl84]

@@theenzoferrari458 I do love a good inline 4 sound as well. But relaxing that shit aint :P

[@theenzoferrari458]

@Bredahl84 excuses and skill issue. 👎

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Some folks like the Zeeeeeeeeeeeeeee of a inline-4. Some folks like the burzzzrzrzrzrzzzzrz of a inline-3. Some folks like the Ruuummmmmmm of a 270° firing interval twin. Pick your therapy. One thing to note: a 1250cc long-stroke inline-4 with a pipe sounds nothing like a 600cc supersport with a pipe.

[@theenzoferrari458]

@Bredahl84 exactly that's why you been quiet ever since. No skill and plenty of excuses to make up for it without taking accountability. 👎

[@hisgen01]

I agree with you Yammie. I bought a Z900 this year as my first bike and boy Oh boy, what a machine. I enjoy it so much. The power, the high torqe at low rpm. It is crazy fast and comfortable to ride, low fuel consumption (fuel is crazy expensive right now in the Netherlands) and it looks great too imo. The only thing I miss right now and will probably install later on is a quickshifter like the MT09 has factory standard.

[@RealSykes]

I'm just under a year of ownership with my CB650R '23 Black Edition with just about every mod you can do aside from a ECU Flash. While I plan to keep it, I do want more power. It's a great commuter bike, fun in the twisties but that feeling of more power is always there lingering in the back of my mind. Torn between the MT10 and ZX10R.

[@verothacamaro]

I actually with they made a little less low end torque and more top end power, but in that upright form factor. I don’t want a race replica, but I definitely want the power.

[@jocoloco1320]

Completely agree. Mine is currently an Indian FTR. Had dozens of bikes and that thing just does it for me.

[@Anii6969]

Probably the realest talk alot of people need to hear. Can confirm as a AMA member / rider for 25+ years, nobody really needs a 1000cc unless your racing on a track or your commute is mainly a highway. 600cc -900cc perfect amount of engine for a intermediate / expert level rider. Just like for dirtbikes 450s are fun but honestly unless your a expert rider youll have more fun on a 125/250cc bike and they are much more friendly to ride. Bigger isn't always better.

[@bigfootgarage2201]

I daily a 23 MT10 and I love it I live on a twisty country road take back roads every day to work I feel like it’s the perfect choice for me

[@TheMrIamcool]

I bought a Street Triple R 675 as my first bike about a month ago and it already feels like the perfect bike. I don’t feel like I want that much extra horsepower in the future (maybe around 150). I like carving up canyons on the weekend and commuting which has made me realize that (for now at least) I got the best bike for me right off of the bat.

[@andycole5957]

Just picked up a '25 Rocket 3 Storm GT. It's perfect! 180hp and 166 torque, but the throttle mapping is very forgiving at low levels, so it cruises nice and smooth, but yes, when you put the hammer on, it's a jack hammer! For a cruiser it's really sporty in the corners, with plenty of lean for street riding. The only thing that isn't pleasurable is the heat it puts out cruising downtown in the summer, that 2.5L engine is water cooled, but still puts out massive heat!

[@Legotruck82]

I only started riding a couple years ago, but I noticed many experienced riders lamenting the 90's sports bikes around 130hp being some of the best for fun street use. Makes sense to me too

[@graylunsford]

This past April (2024) i traveled from Nashville to Austin and rented a local guy’s XSR 900. I was there to see the MotoGP races Friday-Saturday-Sunday, but on Thursday, Monday, and Tuesday, I rode the XSR around the near side of the Hill Country. I had so much *** FUN!!! That bike, like its MT-09 sibling, IS the sweet spot!!!! the feel, the sound, i even enjoyed it in traffic because it starts to pull HARD at just the right RPM! I own a Suzuki SV650 (peppy, precise, docile, nimble) and a BMW K1300S (missile). While i was at COTA, i test-rode a Triumph Street Triple RS and OMG, what a sorted bike! probably the most sorted bike i’ve ever ridden BUT the Yamaha’s triple is absolutely sublime. It. Is. Fun! To Papa Yam’s point, my BMW K1300S can go faster than i will ever request of it and that’s cool, but it is not fun. it is impressive and scary. I want an XSR 900. and maybe a different BMW, but definitely an XSR - or MT-09. i wonder what my odds are if i join up to try to win the MT-09… Thanks, YN, for always making fun thought provoking videos.

[@tyranid05]

@@graylunsford mind if I ask why the Yamahas over the Triumph? It was down to the exact same two brands/3 choices for me and I picked the Triumph. They're all great bikes, I'm just curious what sways you to Japan over the Street Triple?

[@graylunsford]

Hi! I totally respect your choice! For me it wouldn’t have anything to do with the nationality of the manufacturer. The Speed Triple’s handling and brakes are the best i have ever experienced. the Triumph’s throttle is the most linear i’ve ever felt. To ride in the twisties, which is my favorite thing, i would choose the Triumph BUT the Yamaha triple engine is the most engaging, exciting engine i’ve used. I had fun in stop and go traffic with the XSR just because the engine felt and sounded so good! I think the Yamaha would be more fun day to day and on the way to the twisties as well as being decent if not as good as the street triple in the twisties. but i have not bought either bike. (i can’t afford either one… yet.) i hope this makes sense. interested to hear your thoughts.

[@tyranid05]

@@graylunsford honestly the Yamaha was the one I thought I was coming home with, the Triumph wasn't even on my radar at the time. A good friend of mine told me before I signed the papers I needed to at least throw a leg over the Triumph, because I was a Triumph guy and didn't know it. Part of the intangibles of why I chose the 765 were little things, like the quality of the paint and the satisfying switch gear. I actually loved the wasp headlights that seem to be pretty polarizing online. And for me, personally, the higher redline and snappier, more sport bike experience from the 765 was more fun to wind out. The Yamaha was an incredible machine, and I'm still considering an MT-10 after riding one at a demo day. My purchase came down to little details and the fact that I like making an engine scream up top, even if I have to flog it a little harder. The noise is half the experience.

[@graylunsford]

That makes sense. I don’t think I mentioned it but on my test ride with the Triumph RS, I was blown away. First of all, instead of taking demo rides in a group with a leader and sweep, Triumph let its demo riders go on their own. We just had to follow a course. Showing that trust was huge and allowed me to really try the bike within the limits of the streets/roads of the course. Almost without trying I did things through curves and stopping that i had never done before - because the bike is SO GOOD! Like, ridiculously good. Absurdly good. Like a scalpel among blunt axes. Your choice and my probable choice make sense if you love to rev it high, like a true sport/race bike. I prefer the pull of mid-range torque, which i would experience a lot on the Yamaha. The XSR does not handle or stop or feel as planted as the STRS, but it does those things well enough to be a main use bike. Oh - i also agree with you about the looks of the Triumph. I think it looks cool. One thing i don’t particularly like on either bike is their instrument screens. Fun talking with you! Happy riding!

[@blackwolf_1_164]

Sound opinion, I agree. My daily is a 95 hp naked bike with 69 pounds of torque. Does everything I need. Had a 160 hp bike for a year, and was always trying to wrangle it.

[@bassplayer7693]

My 2000 SV650 was truly a peach, but I'm now on a Tracer 700 and honestly, having an mt07 with a half fairing is just sublime! 75bhp is more than plenty to get yourself in trouble on British roads, plus I've got the screen, panniers, and great ergos. Looking forward to some long runs on it over the summer!

[@RyanBeck-b4v]

Couldn't agree more with this! I've been riding for over 30 years. This is the absolute sweet spot for fun! The "biggest, baddest, fastest" that the sites love to cover are usually not the funnest in the real world that we all ride in. This is the range for real-world fun, twisties, acceleration, etc.

[@RadDadisRad]

My 2024 Street Triple 765 RS is great. I can ride around with traction control and abs off without getting too out of hand. Plus I can give it all the throttle most of the time without ever looping it. It’s 128hp according to the brochure.

[@tyranid05]

765RS gang, it really is that good

[@ganuvien]

I really wish they'd bring the Daytona 765 back, especially with the R9 coming out.

[@RadDadisRad]

@@ganuvien they discontinued the Daytona 765 in 2023. A bunch of them are out there too.

[@ganuvien]

@@RadDadisRad Those ones were like $20k though lol.

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

* Found the fast boys corner!

[@Furrby18]

My mt09 sp is the perfect bike for me. Can't imagine needing anything more for the riding I do. Also, get that thing flash tuned Yami! You almost never get full throttle in first and second gear on the stock throttle map!

[@RDC95]

I am one of those guys who went down from a CBR 1000rr. Now I Almost have a 10k miles on my gsxr-750. To me it’s the perfect sweet spot. Love my bike, made so many memories so far, and wouldn’t trade it for anything. but I gotta say, as someone who commutes to the city to work, super sports are not the most comfortable.

[@georgecarlin2879]

I'm 59 now and have ridden all sizes of bikes , totaling over 100K miles of riding in the US, mostly CA. Now retired in Vietnam and downsizing to a Yamaha Xmax 300 in Feb. I'm amazed how much more fun I'm having at speeds of only 100 to 120 kph! LOL!

[@hansholck5982]

Still being on my starter bike - An Bonnie T100 865 EFI with 60-ish horses - I've come to a conclusion, that +100 horses will take away playing with the gears... Some liter bikes can cause one to loose the licence... In first gear... On the highway... All the bikes I'm dreaming of (Honda CBX (the 6 cyl), Honda Bal'dor, Thiumph Daytona 675, Triumph Speed Twin and more) all are 70-120 horses - Not picked by numbers...

[@greencondoresq]

I ride a tuned 2002 Bandit 1200s. I've never dynoed it, but based on other people's numbers, I'm guessing I'm sitting at around 105-110 HP. Plenty fast and, although it's a little heavy for commuting, I like it and it's very planted at speed. I'd like more speed, but I don't need it.

[@jimpanzer07]

After all the bikes I have owned, the 2024 ZX6R is my sweet spot bike once I fixed terrible stock ergos with Heli bars and rearrests. Dumped 14 pounds with Graves exhaust, added 1 tooth to countershaft sprocket and now have a 130 hp bike that weighs around 420 pounds and can run with just about anything in the canyons😎

[@tapsahuovinen3886]

Right on the spot! Five years ago I wanted to buy a fun ride bike after some touring ones. 120 hp and 69 lb-ft, maybe just like this? Suzuki SV 1000SV 2005! No ABS though. Totally enough and so fun with the torque!

[@JDP-we9hk]

2024 Street Triple R and its 118 HP seems pretty damn perfect to me!

[@josephrockey2000]

Just got back on one! A 2007 Honda VTX1300. I could pay in cash and was big enough for me and my daughter to ride together. (The Svart, not so much.) I like it so much I spent $160 to change every bulb to an LED.👍🏻 Thanks for getting me to take to plunge, Yamms. Still watching…!

[@russelllroni]

My Z900 is my first road bike and I couldn't be more happy with my choice. I did a full Akrapovic system, flash, and dyno tune. Fender delete kit, Rizoma mirrors, Puig windscreen, and sliders. I either lucked out or made a great choice...maybe a bit of both. I can do 200 miles with my Dad on the weekends and still go zip around with the sport bikes too.

[@_XRMissie]

Got a Suzuki Bandit 650, 63kW 62N/m (85hp 46ftlb) measured on the dyno and it's an absolute riot. Bit of a chonker at 245kg (540lbs) wet but it's so comfortable for long journeys and hella fun. Dropped 1 tooth on the front and she feels like an actual weapon on the road. The furthest I'd go is a Mk1 B12. Even if it's 1200cc it's still

[@paulthompson5206]

Man, everytime Yam reviews a CP3 bike it just makes me want to ride my ‘23 XSR900 a little more than I already do. You can just hear how enjoyable it is in his voice. That said, my XSR was my first bike back to riding after not having a bike for almost a decade. And I really did find a helluva sweet spot! Of course, I also want to buy a Ducati Streetfighter! Yam’s making a great case for the V2 in this video, but also I kinda just really wanna own and ride a V4. 😂

[@recklessrt]

Have a 2017 877 lb HD CVO Street Glide with 132HP and 147 foot pounds of torque. It's ideal for two up, luggage, and all day riding. It's got stage 4, an after market cam and a beefed up suspension.

[@Otto45]

I recently purchased a vintage Honda CG 125.. This thing is so much fun to ride! The engine is exceptionally torquey due to the OHV pushrod config. Only 10 hp and 11 nm torque, but that's the point... Don't have to worry about checking myself on the throttle. Just let it RIP!!

[@_XRMissie]

Respect for the CG125, was my first bike (still have it!) and it's an absolute blast rippin around semi urban areas. Surprising amount of torque like you said.

[@dextzapf]

My Z1000 R Edition (which is no longer available to some countries) has the perfect power for me. You get a liter with around 140ish HP, lots of torque but not as savage and heavy as a ZH2. Plus the Z1000 is also a bare bike.. no traction control, no power modes, no electronics, just ABS. I love mine.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Well, yeah, a ZH2 with a tune makes another 100 horsepower. That's quite a comparison if you ask me.

[@collinkleese1399]

I started on a r6 8 years ago, went to a 2013 zx6r, then got a Yamaha vstar 1100. I switched back to sports bikes and got the ninja 400. I'm now on a 24 Yamaha r7 and it is the bike i have had the most fun on and have learned the most on. For a saint rider, i have found my "sweet spot"

[@KarlBuckley-bw3vc]

My first ever bike was a FZ-09 back in 2014, it seemed crazy fast at the time. I traded it in for 2021 Ducati Streetfighter V4S and I commute on it all the time. Personally it makes me smile on every commute, except for the fuel consumption 😫

[@tarnishedsquid2967]

I've never ripped through the gears on my XSR 900 & thought gee i need more power. Its perfect for the canyons out here in california!

[@fredorico41]

2023 Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx here, very happy with power and torque from down low, perfect for touring and some spirited riding 🇦🇺👍

[@l33t132]

Ive been watching endless videos about the MT09 and have to say im incredibly hyped. I currently own an R7 and have been highly anticipating the R9 for 6 months. Been watching Mt09 videos to learn as much about the MT09 as I can to really learn about the platform, given the fact the R9 will likely follow the trend and be based on the MT09. Regardless of the mixed opinions and snobby-up turned noses, the R7 has been an absolutely thrill to own. Now that my experience has grown substantially and I'm partial towards torque rather than RPMs, I've felt as the R7, while a great bike is missing the cherry on top. I think the cherry will be 200cc and an extra cylinder. Thank you for the videos Yammie. Maybe do a speculation video on the R9 given its cult following. Maybe a wish list on what you want to see, what you think we'll get and its place in the street and GP market.

[@DJIrisch]

last Saturday, my friend Omkar we swapped bike for downtown night ride... He took the 'Little Big or the Little Beast" R3 and I handed up with the Kawasaki zx-14R... ho man😂, he had so much fun, with the small displacement, are so agile, swiff, his smile was priceless... on my side, after a short while , my balls were toasty hot on his Zx-14r, definitely track and highway.... bikes are like tools for the jobs... you want the proper one for what you are doing the most... or just get 2 to 3 "tools" you want😊😁 for me, Sweet spot something 115-120hp with 60 to 76 lb-ft

[@GixxerLife99]

My sweet spot is a GSXS 1000. Not because of the 150 hp but the almost uniqe mid range grunt and torque combined with the smoothness of an inline 4.

[@user-fp6hc7sj5c]

My sweet spot is also a gsxs1000, it’s the best road bike I’ve ever road for me. Tons of torque in the mid range and plenty of top end power.

[@russelllroni]

Love my Z900 for the same reason.

[@douglasgrosch228]

i find my concours 14 all tricked out ecu flash suspension upgrade and dual exhaust got the torqe and power to hussle tail of dragon and cmpfy for roan !!

[@SquareHelmet]

For road bikes, GSXS1000 hits the spot for me too. Smooth, powerful, super easy. Loved every minute with it

[@douglasgrosch228]

Ninja 1000 and GSXS 1000 are key players !! yes yes but concours got that torque addicting power smooth and little more stable weight for touring and agile too..

[@DrHakennase]

I ride the Speed Twin 1200. Such a nice punchy engine sold my old Daytona 955i and got myself a brandnew PanigaleV2 Bayliss. Exactly my type. Was speculating of buying a V4 but luckily they hadnt one in stock

[@1683clifton]

Mt03 damn you yammie, ripping 85 in fifth gear is plenty for me! Turtle gang! 🐢🔥🐢🔥🇺🇸

[@aminjan56]

I am new to motorcycling after reading all reviews on youtube etc and bought few models some cheap some expensive. Tracer9 i got which is tourer mt09 is in the sweet spot no doubt!

[@irishtrash5]

The 2024 MT-09 is my sweet spot, and my dream bike. I never regret riding her.

[@michaelklodos4045]

At the moment I have a Honda XL 1000 Varadero. With 94 horses. The Varadero is like a GS, but for the 1/4 of the price used and with the double reliability. It ticks all my boxes. It’s an excellent commuter bike. It’s very comfortable for long distances. It can keep up with the pace on the German Autobahn and I’m not in eminent danger of losing my drivers license at home in Denmark. The more than 270kg wet weight doesn’t bother me, because I never leave the paved roads. It’s my 3rd bike with that amount of power. It’s fine for the needs I have. I’ve had less powerful bikes, and they were just fine for every day use. But they are too slow for my liking on the Autobahn. You can’t accelerate, to get out of trouble, from 160kmh to 180 in a split second on a fully loaded V-Strom 650. 70 horses are just not enough. More powerful bikes are very expensive to insure and home in Denmark it’s not possible to utilize their potential. If you go over 200kmh you lose the bike and the drivers license. What’s the fun in that?

[@richarddancey9413]

I sold my r1 and ended up on the tuono 660.. never looking back, its way more fun to ring out

[@karlbishop7481]

I have a Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello, 115 hp and a flat torque curve. Perfect bike, enough power to pass anywhere but even torque to make riding a pleasure not having to row the gear box.

[@stewie84]

This is why the guy who has ridden forever on his 400 smokes everyone at track days. He can take it near the limits over and over again. Most people cannot handle anywhere near the limits of the top end liter bikes…

[@obeii1805]

Who cares ! Not everyone buy bikes to do track days. Just like not everyone buy muscle cars for track days .. in fact more ppl buy high powered vehicles for leisure riding

[@nSquared75]

@@obeii1805 Imagine being offended at such a simple and factual comment. If the statement had nothing to do with you, then just move along.

[@ItsJustJussi]

Thanks for validating my beliefs. Bought a Duke 890R for a first bike. Perfect and easy to ride.

[@mbpm6135]

My 1290 Superduke is like the One Ring and I am Frodo. I have good self control and restraint but every once in a while it just whispers a little too strongly. It's the ultimate indulgence to ham it up on a preposterously powerful motorcycle. It's intoxicating. It gets you into massive trouble in more ways than one and the money tap flows hard when you do. But when you come down from that euphoric high... Car guys simply don't understand.

[@johnhernandez6434]

I had the 21 MT-09 base model and it was a fantastic bike to ride. Got the Akra full exhaust, tuned and Dyno’d and it was crazy fun. I just felt that front end kind of flighty when more aggressive on higher speed turns. Still handles great but after two years I upgraded to the23 MT-10. Got the Leo Vince 3/4 exhaust and tune. Making 160 to the wheel now but still riding my ride. She has more than what I can handle. I like a little more weight and feeling more planted. Still wheelies real easy in first and second. 😀

[@hamishlast9127]

I had a xz14r with around 210 hp. Now I ride a GL1800 Goldwing with around 125 hp along with a whopping 170nm of torque. The GL1800's power, I get to use, as it delivers it so low in the rev range where you actually use it in real life. Specs sheets are very deceptive in the real world. High hp just means it will go fast but doing that and getting caught, could mean a career change for many.

[@NookLemniscate]

The Z900 RS Cafe is the sweet spot for me. Comfortable for taller riders (and longer rides), enough power to put a smile on my face, Inline 4 sound, HIGHLY customizable, esthetically pleasing (Kawasaki Green), and RELIABLE! The ZX14 was all of these things but had too much power and the ZX10 was uncomfortable after about 40 minutes of riding. I’ve never rode a Ninja 1000, I would like to think that would be a well balanced bike.

[@fredorico41]

Very happy with my Ninja 1000sx

[@Snotroggel453]

A guy on youtube has a z900 with 100.000km already, look it up😂

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I wanted to like the Z900RS. Aesthetically, I do. I just wish they hadn't neutered the engine from the Z900, added double the weight to the exhaust system, put a crazy tall 6th gear in the transmission (without adjusting the other gears), and designed a font so tiny on those clocks you can't tell exactly what it's doing. Seems like a lot of downers for a lot more cost (over the Z900), to just buy "style" and ergos. I'm more of an RS styling kind of person, but the Z900 performance kind of mind.

[@ButteredUpToast]

My first bike was a shadow 750 somewhere around 45 hp. Found that i disliked the cruiser seating position. Picked up a street triple 675r and im absolutely in love with it. The upright naked and the sound of the triple is chefs kiss 🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽

[@SuperSpruce]

After 10 months on my GZ250, I decided to upgrade to a bike I plan to keep long term: A 2012 Triumph Street Triple R. 106hp, high-revving i3 engine, fairly upright ergos but track capable handling.

[@murlyn2]

Great points. I've had Liter bikes, R1, GSXR and all kinds of bikes. My favorite so far is my Yamaha Tenere 700, with its mere 72hp. I await the Tenere 900, or get the Tracer. I think 100 to 125 hp is my sweet spot.

[@RibeyeMoto-c6y]

After 35 yrs and 16 different bikes my Diavel V4 is my sweet spot. Still have a Tuono and Magna for good luck.

[@Bubbles99718]

Only driven 2 litre bikes. Once in '89 then again in '09. Both times it was crazy and the weight drop in '09 made it hyperspace insane. Not a fan of sport bikes generally, mainly the riding position. Driven plenty of 750's, 600's. Power was much more......less threatening, but still oogles more than needed. Death is so much closer, the merest flick of the wrist, with all liter bikes.

[@ptilrem]

I own a Tiger Sport 660, and I think it's the perfect bike. But then again, I'm on the thoughts of upgrading to a Tiger 900. A sports tourer with 90-120 horses under the crotch is the sweetspot for me.

[@noamhadas8345]

Once again a video just in time. My favorite channel ❤🙏

[@thagingerninjer5391]

I started riding at the end of the 2000’s, and I’ve ridden a lot of bikes. My daily is a 2021 cbr1000rr. It’ll be two years old next month, and I’ve put almost 19k miles on it. I live in central Arkansas, and I’ve taken it to Dallas and back. It’s absolutely the sweet spot for me. I was planning on getting a cbr600rr when I bought this one, but couldn’t find one. I was coming from a 2006 cbr600rr, and the 1000 is only 2 pounds heavier than it was. It’s tiny, for a liter bike. The way the engine is positioned, and the subframe is positioned, puts it perfectly out of the rider’s triangle, so it’s surprisingly thin. (My wife, also, was surprised about how thin it was, if you know what I mean.) I’m 5’5”, weigh 170 pounds, and they’ll pry my completely unnecessary liter bike out of my cold, dead hands. 😂

[@richardjreidii]

I just sold my Concours 1400 because it was too fast. With the flash and the full exhaust I think it was about 160 hp maybe a little more and like 105 foot pounds of torque. Which combine with the fact that that in line 4 is just so silky smooth meant that I was constantly finding myself doing 70 in a 55 because it was only a difference of less than 500 rpm in sixth. I can’t believe Kawasaki did not include cruise control on that bike. I got a speeding ticket 20 years, but I was going to get one on that bike. In my experience right around 100 hp and 50 to 70 foot pounds of torque depending on the weight of the bike is the sweet spot for me. The good news is most manufacturers know this. My Honda 919 rest in peace sad that sweet spot and I will forever be looking for a reasonably priced 2004+ that doesn’t have a dented tank. My V-Strom 1000 also sat pretty close to the sweet spot, and my Yamaha super tenere rides it as well.

[@jdnoneya5231]

Multistrada 1200 twins are a bit over the Yammie limit, but I have found mr 2016 perfect for the interstate commute and multi state trips alike. That 1198 engine in a comfortable frame is just so hard to beat. I don't use nearly that much power, but I love that what I do ask for is effortless.

[@Gingerwolfman]

I just upgraded from sv650 to zx6r. I love both bikes! The sv is now my wifes bike.

[@corujariousa]

For many, fetish usually comes in the way of rational decisions. HP is just one aspect on a motorcycle. Weight, handling, stopping power and reliability are all critical aspects to be considered. Most people don't ever go to a racetrack so they'll never have the chance to push their bikes to the limits, especially considering the skills/experience needed for that. My motorcycle has 110 HP and I have to keep that in check to stay out of trouble. I'd be happy with a lighter and lower seat 90 HP bike. I have had so much fun with 125cc and 350cc bikes with much lower HP. But that's just me of course. Cheers.

[@ChrisSauer-oe5ve]

MT-09 is a light weight flickable bike you can filter through city traffic & spicy with plenty of torque at a moment’s notice 💪🔥💯

[@shawnh.2334]

I've got a 92 Nighthawk. 74hp. Weighs less than 500lbs. great for cruising around town or on a back country road.

[@glenby2u]

I've been up and down on horsepower. Lots of highway travel, with regular commute and occasional twisty fun. so... Yammie's sweet spot is about right for me. sv650 is great in twisties and mostly ok in commute but... if you want to overtake on highway, you need torque to accelerate from 50 ti 80 to get around a few banked vehicles. high revving feels like you are flogging the bike,. a bandit is a lot of fun almost every day. a gsx-s1000 gt now because I want a bit of weather protection. it goes as fast as you need it to. torque everywhere and you dont need to push it up near red-line. I cam imagine the mt09 being sweet. have fun

[@exothermal.sprocket]

XSR/MT-09 with a quarter fairing and a larger fuel tank, perfect. Some say Z900RS Cafe, but they changed too much stuff from the Z900 and the cost comparison is ridiculous.

[@TwistofWrist]

I've had a Z1000 and my current Z900 for a total of 10 years. You are right, 120 hp is the magic number for an all-in-one motorcycle. I'm gonna keep it for another 2-3 years and will probably trade it in for a decent electric bike like the Zero DSR ZF 14.4 for daily commuting and anything else in between. Australia is 2 to 4 years behind other developed countries in term of EV charging infrastructure. So hopefully by then, I could use an electric bike for longer trips out of town and don't have to worry about range anxiety.

[@ryanmichael7795]

Recently just got a triumph street triple r 675 and i think its pretty much the sweet spot with around 106bhp. Its really fast and easy to use the performance

[@ChrisSauer-oe5ve]

Triumph is great bike, but don’t like being locked into their maintenance if a oil change light or something goes wrong.

[@FreshFres5]

This is a great video describing why the cbr500r is a great bike! Thanks Yam!

[@NoFrictionZone]

😂😂😂

[@exothermal.sprocket]

47 horsepower isn't exactly what he's talking about.

[@jamesjerome1104]

Two up, full luggage, across country tour, BMW K1600GTL is unmatched 😊

[@V12Maniac]

I've only been riding for 3 or so years, I've been fortunate enough to be on a wide variety of sport motorcycles. Ranging from Duke 390 and Ninja 400 all the way up to ZX14R and R1 with a ton of different motorcycles in between. I definitely prefer the top end liter bikes and fast boi bikes. Yes the ergos aren't the best, but I very much enjoy them regardless. Commuting to work going to meet up with friends or just going out on rides by myself or with friends. I've had that one dunning kruger effect event happen that made me realize just how bad i was a riding and make me entirely reconsider the way i rode. And even then i definitely prefer these big power bikes. I will say, the FZ-07 that i have and an MT-09 that i once rode are absolutely phenomenal bikes. love them to high heaven. Just a bit of an issue when it comes to wet weather since as of right now a motorcycle is my only vehicle. rain on a naked bike isn't great. Given it's not great in general on a bike but it's a bit easier to handle when you have at least some form of rain protection in the form of fairings and a wind screen. Plus all the extra power I have. The other thing that hits my sweet spot is the lack of tech on a bike that I own. I currently own a 16' FZ-07 and an 05' R1. Neither of which have any tech or anything. It feels so much better than the bikes I've ridden with all the tech packages, TC, and ABS and even rider modes. Yes in poor road or weather conditions, it's very helpful to have those things, but even then I 100% prefer 0 tech on a bike that I own.

[@Max-rs3mh]

I love my dirty triple Tracer 900, I've had a couple cruisers and a couple sportbikes and ridden everything in-between from friends etc. And the CP3 is light, nimble, torquey as hell, quick (enough) and comfy and reliable as dirt. The ONLY gripe i have is the vibration. I've done a few mods to help ease it but it's miles away from the smoothness from a inline 4

[@Fadeyes98]

Having so much fun with my 390 gen1. I have made some mods and it's all i need. Ridin it since 2016

[@geoffhurley8103]

VFR800. 109hp and torque from idle to 11k. It's perfect! That MT09 looks nice. Might have to buy some merch.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

527-534 lb wet. That sorta blows my mind about that bike.

[@chanopozo323]

I'm currently on a KTM 390 ADV, possessing a whopping 42.9 HP (really it's happiest off-road IMO, where the power is great, but practical on the street and for travel). I think my sweet spot for now would be somewhere around 70-80. This MT-09 looks like a demon! Does look like all the power anyone would need on the street.

[@svenniefpv]

i r had a gixer gsxf 600/ a cbr 600f/ a vtr 1000sp/ a yam 600 facer. rode a cb650R 2024 a CFmoto 450NK, but for me i'm always come back to my cb600f of '08. there is something on this 4in line that's for me the sweetspot to do it all. sporty but sweet to ride and for a 4cil anough torque but smooth to deliver. even from 2000 till 13000tr.

[@ericcopeland7242]

I’ve had a z800 for a few months now and man the large displacement naked bikes feel like a rocket ship

[@-MaxMax]

Got my licence 3 weeks ago, bought a 2019 desert sled, it's not a rocket of course, but still something special.

[@TB-lb3xq]

Love my 2018 MT-09. Just love the power and sound of this bad boy!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Same. Just hate the OEM suspension and chassis like a rubber noodle. The 21+ is very different.

[@brianjackson9801]

my last bikes were SD1290R and a Tuono 1100V4, both absolutely riots of a bike to ride, but could never fully exploit their potential on the street. I hate the sugomi styling and most modern aesthetics, that insectoid/transformer look. So, I'm now on a Z900RS. And you know what? It does everything really well and looks fantastic. The engine is amazing in the way that Kawa makes hard hitting engines. Sound is fantastic and despite its weight, handles pretty decently for what it is. A few mods: Arka headers, KN filter, bored out airbox, ECU flash, Ohlins Shock, Brembo master cylinder, Angel GT tires... and now its a real sleeper, and boy does it sound good now! and I'm still comfortable! My only mistake was not getting the cafe version. Now, back to insects, I would love to try that new 990 Duke..

[@dyplowmoto350]

Yes sir MT-09sp is the ticket! I absolutely love my 23sp!

[@FOX1RR]

The more HP, the sweeter the spot!! Never too much HP!!

[@Dirty_mike39]

I stared on a honda cb650r and loved it but wanted a crack at a liter bike. So bought a 2023 bmw S1000R, and I've grown to absolutely love it! Took a vacation and road a week at the back of the dragon and surrounding area. I learned ALOT from that trip. 165hp and 80ftlbs, would have to be my sweet spot especially the way this bike is geared it just makes sense and is very usable in every aspect IMHO. But, definitely not a beginner bike. I would like to see you ride one and get you're personal opinion. Please? Lol