What Is The Traveler's Past? [Genshin Impact Lore, Analysis, and Theory]

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@ChillwithAster
@ChillwithAster 2 жыл бұрын
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@mariapazgonzalezlesme
@mariapazgonzalezlesme 2 жыл бұрын
During the Chasm/Archon Quest, a thing Lumine didn't take into account about Aether, is that shortly after seeing the shared memory, he is starting to deviate from his sister's ideals. The Abyss Leader expect that at end of their journey, their sibling would finally understand their reasons and join them, however, siblings always tends to be opposite from each other. Aether may be able to see the big picture of Teyvat, but that doesn't mean he approve of Lumine's choices.
@bengreene4972
@bengreene4972 2 жыл бұрын
They agree on some things, disagree on others, the traveller may begin to agree more with their sibling as they learn the truth of celestia, the gods, archons, khaenri’ah, the abyss, archon war, teyvats history, etc
@nhaan4178
@nhaan4178 2 жыл бұрын
The MC wants to take down Celestia (same goal as the Abyss sibling) but disagree with the sibling's method.
@densekun6024
@densekun6024 2 жыл бұрын
can't necessarily agree with Khaenriah as well
@densekun6024
@densekun6024 2 жыл бұрын
hasn't said he wants to but if he gets attacked it might happen
@unknown20005
@unknown20005 2 жыл бұрын
it’s pretty much like one big sibling dispute and we hear all this talk about archons being gods but why is nobody talking about the fact that aether and lumine are probably also gods and not just any gods but potentially the most powerful gods in existence capable of wielding all the archon’s power’s without needing a vision and capable of traveling through space itself and both are unknown in age we could also say that the siblings could be the representation of yin and yang or good and evil and your personal story it just depends on which one you choose at the start
@MetalGearSortof
@MetalGearSortof 2 жыл бұрын
I only just now realized that Dainsleif was essentially the Abyss Sibling's Paimon.
@lunareclipse4116
@lunareclipse4116 2 жыл бұрын
That, sounds so creepy
@heenthousiast383
@heenthousiast383 2 жыл бұрын
hey thats unfair >:C they get a cool hot tall man and we get a constantly annoying floating child
@MetalGearSortof
@MetalGearSortof 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunareclipse4116 Now imagine if it was the other way around - Paimon was captain of the Guard in Khaenri'ah and we now have to navigate the game through the Dainsleif Menu because we fished him out of the ocean. lol This just gets better and better.
@MetalGearSortof
@MetalGearSortof 2 жыл бұрын
@@heenthousiast383 We definitely got the raw deal on our traveling companion...
@lunareclipse4116
@lunareclipse4116 2 жыл бұрын
@@MetalGearSortof paimon as a royal guard is probably the stuff of my nightmares
@bamgm14
@bamgm14 2 жыл бұрын
I think the fear of losing his sister and how things look made the present nightmare of the Traveler in 2.7 Perilous Trail Quest. Given the Traveler feels like her endeavour with the Abyss seperates the too, he now blames the Abyss itself for her path.
@xdsmile5359
@xdsmile5359 2 жыл бұрын
So the sibling thinks that the Abyss took their sibling away from them
@ZenithintheMaking
@ZenithintheMaking 2 жыл бұрын
I take it that you're a Aether main😚😚
@bamgm14
@bamgm14 2 жыл бұрын
@@xdsmile5359 Basically
@bamgm14
@bamgm14 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZenithintheMaking Lol
@xdsmile5359
@xdsmile5359 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think aether is the canonical teaveller
@suumi_z
@suumi_z 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's more likely that the Traveler's memory of entering Teyvat was wayy, wayy before the Cataclysm. In the We Will Be Reunited Trailer, you see Lumine (or the Abyss sibling) kneeling down and clenching their fist against their chest, in front of what is described as The Cataclysm. It is most likely that the nation the Abyss sibling sees burning in front of them is Khaenri'ah, which is supported by Raiden Ei's animated sequence from the Inazuma Archon Quest, where she states, “ But I've seen a nation stride forward and lose everything to the Heavenly Principles ", where the same image of a burning nation is displayed. So if the travelers, who supposedly JUST entered Teyvat 500 years ago (during the Cataclysm), see this random nation burning aflame, I don't think the Abyss sibling would have made such an emotional gesture towards a place they weren't already emotionally invested in. Hence coming to the conclusion that the Travelers entered Teyvat a long time ago, and probably adventured all over the place. I know this doesn't really explain how the Abyss sibling was travelling partners with Dain, while the other sibling was somewhere else completely. But to be fair, Venti does have a voiceline that asks our Traveler if they can't remember him. Which is very sus.
@lexiejvsrm7069
@lexiejvsrm7069 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but didn't Lumine decide to wake up Aether after seeing the cataclysm and escape Teyvat? Why is reviving "homeland" more important NOW? Something could have happened after she explored teyvat with dain bc she couldnt leave teyvat anyway and saw the true nature of the gods and all
@arkozhs
@arkozhs 2 жыл бұрын
i always wonder. why MC said "abyss take MC's Sibling away" that room always about nightmare, yet why just show empty abyss and not sustainer of heavenly principles?
@callmeravenlee1972
@callmeravenlee1972 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true. He saw the unknown god AND remembers her obviously. But he attributes his sister’s disappearance to the abyss
@astraySparrow
@astraySparrow 2 жыл бұрын
@@callmeravenlee1972 that's because the Travelers introduction is confusing on purpose, by the time they face the Sustainer one of siblings is already a Abyss Sibling and wants to leave not only to continue their journey, but to protect the nation they took shelter at, it's mentioned that Abyss Sibling woke up earlier than MC, and we naturally assume Abyss Sibling woke up earlier after separation by the Sustainer, but in actuality Sustainer already knew and observed actions of Abyss Sibling and decided they won't let them escape, whilst our MC is completely clueless about what is going on, at that point they just woke up and don't even know the local language. So yeah by the time of meeting with the Sustainer our Sibling is already taken by the Abyss metaphorically speaking.
@Zombina638
@Zombina638 2 жыл бұрын
@@callmeravenlee1972 ??
@sleepspacee
@sleepspacee 2 жыл бұрын
If the sustainer of heavenly principles showed up even in that room, everyone would put in a pack like sardines. Actual godly terror that are way above archons
@myrtle8347
@myrtle8347 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda snorted seeing K.K. as Kaedehara Kazuha. Happy Anniversary Aster and to this channel! Thank you for all the lore bits that made me appreciate the game even more. I truly can't wait for more of the Traveler's lore in Sumeru...
@Nino-pn4vc
@Nino-pn4vc 2 жыл бұрын
Lumine wanting to revive "homeland" reminds me of Otto wanting to return Kalen. For some reason I think Lumine is up to something similar.
@emmik946
@emmik946 2 жыл бұрын
*Insert the Imaginary Tree here*
@bridgettejasperreyes7567
@bridgettejasperreyes7567 2 жыл бұрын
@@emmik946 What makes you think Imaginary Tree was never inserted...?
@emmik946
@emmik946 2 жыл бұрын
@@bridgettejasperreyes7567 I meant insert the Imaginary Tree into Genshin ;)
@bridgettejasperreyes7567
@bridgettejasperreyes7567 2 жыл бұрын
@@emmik946 It's already there... It just has a different name...
@emmik946
@emmik946 2 жыл бұрын
@@bridgettejasperreyes7567 That's the joke
@jadepuguon1177
@jadepuguon1177 2 жыл бұрын
So if the traveler would say to Venti, "in your eyes, I see my world" it's not a pickup line.🤣🤣
@andromeda_va39
@andromeda_va39 2 жыл бұрын
I chose that line just to flirt with him lol
@Gibmeprimogemss
@Gibmeprimogemss 2 жыл бұрын
Wait I just realised that, I never realised that it kinda was a pick up line 💀 (I chose the other one)
@eatthelemon6666
@eatthelemon6666 2 жыл бұрын
@@andromeda_va39 same
@dusker_s
@dusker_s 2 ай бұрын
where is that line? I can't find it in any cutscene
@maerunua5330
@maerunua5330 2 жыл бұрын
The Star Travelers always reminded me of that movie "Stardust" in which one of the stars fell down from the sky and took human form in our world (the magical part) and the first time I watched that cinematic of the twins like shooting stars ( 2:56 ) and then Ei saying that "we used to be one of them?" as if the traveler were talking bulshit, that kinda of stayed with me and now I think of them like that, a literal star that travels and witness countless worlds.
@nmhjjp
@nmhjjp 2 жыл бұрын
I always asume that the Zholing speach is just meta comentary about us being the player and that we have seen a lot of other games, so when the genshin servers are turnd off we are the "backup" of the tales of the game
@drpulcinella1870
@drpulcinella1870 2 жыл бұрын
I still find it extremely odd u can't see Celestia in inazuma. Also I find it kinda odd that if u are in the wave rider boat off the cost of the last inazuma Island the sky goes real dark. Feels kinda..off... If u ask me
@aishqy4mc_958
@aishqy4mc_958 2 жыл бұрын
I think the sky turning dark is because of Inazuma neighboring the Dark Sea? Not sure
@drpulcinella1870
@drpulcinella1870 2 жыл бұрын
@@aishqy4mc_958 definitely has to be it. We know the dark sea is outside of the nation and inazuma is the closest to that area
@densekun6024
@densekun6024 2 жыл бұрын
yh dark sea is not in Celestias domain a lot of gods who lost in the archon war are there
@drpulcinella1870
@drpulcinella1870 2 жыл бұрын
@@densekun6024 yes that is correct
@ENOINN
@ENOINN 2 жыл бұрын
Ei doesn’t want anything to do with celestia, she hates celestia and her ideal of “eternity” was partly influenced by the want of not needing celestia.
@nightshiftsoleil4707
@nightshiftsoleil4707 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any thoughts why the respective abyss twin is referred to as "Your Highness"? I feel like Khaenri'ah, a place with reverence for their original royalty (seeing Dain's self-loathing over failing to protect them) wouldn't so easily call a random helper like the twin, "Your Highness". This is also going off the assumption that the Abyss Order are completely made up of former Khaenri'ahns. Even though we've saved Mondstadt, Liyue, and Inazuma, no one really does so much as call us a hero of sorts. And the phrasing of 'homeland' specifically, represents deep emotional ties. For people who tout that they travel and call themselves adventurers, calling somewhere 'homeland' feels strange. It's such a specific term, not "home" or the "the land I call home", but "homeland", it sounds like something you'd hear from a nationalist of sorts. Hate and resentment over a number of centuries could probably corrupt the twin to some degree, fanaticizing their ideals, but blaming such terminology on 'corruption' feels narratively weak, to me at least. I also don't think the twins are the original royalty, or related to them, but I feel like they have very deep ties to Khaenri'ah in a way that hasn't been revealed yet. Or maybe Khaenri'ahn civilization has connections to something a lot deeper than just Teyvat. I also don't play Honkai, so I can't really make any comparisons there either. Granted I'm not terribly invested in hidden lore and haven't brushed up on the older archon quests so I could very well be missing something, but it's interesting.
@alexfirth21
@alexfirth21 2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that Tsaritsa is a relative to Aether and Lumine, and likely crowned the abyss sibling Prince/Princess when he/she agreed to help the abyss. That or he/she is married to one of the Tsarita's children. Remember Katarina was introduced as her daughter in The Chasm.
@Drave_Jr.
@Drave_Jr. 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Lumine spent a while in Khaenri'ah before the Unknown God. Lumine spent a good amount of time, and her detached conversation with Dain implies this happened before the Fall, otherwise she would've mentioned he's a liar, also it makes little sense for Lumine to avenge a dead nation. We don't know how long the Travelers spend in a world, nor their age. These are the two main ways to check how they view home. Khaenri'ah is most likely Lumine's Mondstadt, in that she feels close because of the general feel it gave off. I'm sure many would want to avenge Mondstadt if it was destroyed.
@ChillwithAster
@ChillwithAster 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely what happened is that Lumine rose to that position before OR after the cataclysm. Whatever eldritch being truly rules the abyss order is what appointed Lumine most likely. Lumine's royalty status would either have to be seeded from YEARS of dedicated service to Khaenriah (given we dont know how long she's been awake), or a promotion of some sorts after the Cataclysm
@isdrakon9802
@isdrakon9802 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like she was simply the most qualified. If you look at lumine she does look like someone who'd be royalty, aether does as well to a lesser extent
@leafdragoon8551
@leafdragoon8551 2 жыл бұрын
It's possible that the dark mud may affected Lumine's memory, since we have seen people who are affected by the dark corruption have memory problems. She may actually believe that she and her brother are from Khaenri'ah and are royalty.
@NioFiota
@NioFiota 2 жыл бұрын
Traveler reminds me of the Doctor from Doctor Who. Both have similar experiences to exploring worlds and meeting people and trying to fix whatever happens with companions (or a sibling for the Traveler's case) while also being ancient and nearly immortal. But that's it. The difference between these characters is that The Doctor does something called "Regeneration". When they "die" they get replaced by a new body with a new personality, though their core memories are intact. There's no text that tells about The Traveler's mortality so I assume they just don't age.
@coxwang40
@coxwang40 2 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting if we consider K.K. as Kevin Kaslana of Houkai 3rd. That means the twins could be much more stronger than any Archon in Teyvat when Lumine and Aether take back their real power. As that power are based on Houkai energy, the twins also be able to destroy the whole Teyvat land. Therefore, the unknown god must consume much of her power to seal twins' real power, that would waken the Celestia and make Celestia unable to stop the coming revolt of the Archons. No doubt cryo Archon had sense the wakening of the Celestia and she decided to take this marvellous opportunity, other Archons, such as Morax and Barbatos, they took their best way to support cryo Archon's revolt.
@jovelyndungog5366
@jovelyndungog5366 2 жыл бұрын
Nah kk and kevin have different honkai genes
@Silber_Ag
@Silber_Ag 2 жыл бұрын
If the twins are from a world that died when Kevin Kaslana was around to say something, we do not know what world they're from, only that it was consumed by the honkai, like so many others, as Su observed. How are Visions, Gnoses, the abyss and the realm of light(Vishaps) related to the Honkai? What did the gods do to contain it? We don't see many Honkai Beasts or Zombies rampaging around, and the aggressive behavior of the ruin machines can be easily explained by their origin in a bellicose Khaen'riah. Are the Rifthounds Honkai Beasts? If so, what does that mean for Durin and Albedo? We only know that Genshin is certainly part of the honkaiverse. Who knows, maybe the full release of Star Rail has more answers, maybe the truth of the world sheds some light on that. What would a Herrscher in Teyvat do anyways? Until they truly unlock their powers, any archon obliterates them easily. Only some Herrschers and maybe some very rare individuals can tap into honkai power to a sufficient degree to actually destroy continents and the like. The Twins didn't seem like that. A MANTIS (or similar) can be incredibly powerful but mass destruction is usually a Herrscher thing.
@benemanlargo4723
@benemanlargo4723 2 жыл бұрын
but kk is kazuha
@hellother52
@hellother52 2 жыл бұрын
@@benemanlargo4723 he doesn't even know that the traveler is from another world
@inazumaprimex100
@inazumaprimex100 Жыл бұрын
It's probably for Kate Kaslana who is listed as the first character in the game files.
@Enochtheeditor2169
@Enochtheeditor2169 Жыл бұрын
Imagine Aether waking up in his home and realising it was just a dream💀💀💀
@lunareclipse4116
@lunareclipse4116 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched so much theory videos but no one has mentioned that in Greek mythology, the three fates weave people’s destiny on a loom so
@chickenflippers
@chickenflippers 2 жыл бұрын
Happy one year anniversary! Just found your channel, but I like to listen to your lore discussions
@wildfire_
@wildfire_ 2 жыл бұрын
although it seems like he's struggling with being separated from his sister, what if this is just one of countless stories that they've experienced, what if for them this big story is insignificant in scale.
@randomguyblank1616
@randomguyblank1616 2 жыл бұрын
So I think everyone and their mother knows the Project Arc theory for the travelers at this point, the Travelers are the two things the Previous Era of Honkai sent into space in order to preserve the human genome. Now I'm kinda colorblind, but don't Venti's eyes look like Earth when viewed from space? Not to mention cbt1 lines about the travelers escaping from the Honkai, we'll discard these since they probably changed it, but the world ending threat turning civilizations into dust is in line with mo of the Honkai. Btw its known that the PE couldn't have figured out cloning, so they most likely sent out people into space to preserve humanity, do with that information as you will.
@bamgm14
@bamgm14 2 жыл бұрын
The Project Arc connection, while strong, has a few problems one being, as things stand, there is no official connection between Genshin and Honkai minus the extra party dialogue by K.K. While heavily implied, I think it's best not to run of it just yet. Not until we meet K.K. in Honkai since we know he is an actual character there. If K.K claims to be incharge of Arc, we have a our connection but if K.K i just an Observer, like Apocalypse with the Void Archives checking out Dvalin then we have a different set on our hands
@randomguyblank1616
@randomguyblank1616 2 жыл бұрын
@Harry Shade Oh I haven't actually dug through all the Elysian Realm lore yet, can you point me towards where they discuss project arc?
@randomguyblank1616
@randomguyblank1616 2 жыл бұрын
@@bamgm14 Yeah so far, no dice on the Honkai connection officially, other than the CEO of Hoyoverse stating their part of the same universe at GDC in 2021. But, well that could mean a whole fuck ton of things in Honkai's world with alternate universes or HSR showing us distant worlds house human life somehow.
@bamgm14
@bamgm14 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomguyblank1616 my point exactly
@bamgm14
@bamgm14 2 жыл бұрын
@Harry Shade K.K was said to be someone in the new cast, likely someone from MANTIS atleast according to an interview (i forgot where) so I doubt it's Kiana
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz 2 жыл бұрын
Lumine being the leader of the abyss is a recent thing (from Karya) Also the heralds line from 2.6 Lumine flashback might suggest she might've been acting as sort of an advisor or something to the abyss because he says " so the proposal finally had your blessings" if she was the leader shouldn't it be something like she approved it or commands it. Blessing sounds a bit out of place seeing that Khenriahn's never believed in gods. If this the case it would suggest that their Chasm experiment was in preparation phase long before the sibling met or maybe even but before Arther woke up (after 500 years) I'm wondering if this is the case did the Abyss didn't have a leader before ? Because kaeya says "they're United under a single leader" To which Paimon says "they have a leader now?" So what was Lumine doing during that period and what was the abyss doing without a leader They most likely had alot of different faction amongst themselves because of kaeya emphasizing "United " If he was just telling us about how they have a leader he would've just said so I can think of two possibilities Either Lumine has been going solo across the world (most likely in the Dark sea) after the Cataclysm OR She didn't woke up 500 years ago (after encountering the sustainer) but a few years back, and something notable and interesting also happened a few years before Aether woke up, Alice left to investigate something dangerous Lines up too well to be a coincidence Something always bugged about the abyss sibling is, why wait for 500 years. Why not try to take over Dvalin when he was poisioned Also if Lumine indeed appeared and took over the abyss, around the time Alice left, then it would mean that Dain and Lymine's world tour took place before the Cataclysm I m think this is possible because she has almost opposite opinion of the God (from her wanting to end them) while Arther thinks of them as friends
@lexiejvsrm7069
@lexiejvsrm7069 2 жыл бұрын
or maybe bc the ppl of kaenri'ah also became part of the abyss after turning to monsters and this "uniting" is the abyss order. Abyss order is in the abyss but not all abyss is the abyss order (sorry if that was phrased wrong lol)
@lexiejvsrm7069
@lexiejvsrm7069 2 жыл бұрын
keep in mind that not only ppl of kaenriah as monsters now, are part of the abyss, rifthounds for example belong to it too. but basically the abyss is the void realm (besides the human and light realm).
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexiejvsrm7069 but kaeya doesn't refer to the "Abyss" he specifically says the Abyss Order which means at some point the order gad multiple factions And according to some recent info the sibling wasn't part of the Order right afterwards the Cataclysm
@aloywong658
@aloywong658 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is waiting for sumeru archon quest because they want to know more about the Dendro Archon, Scaramouche, Khaenri'ah and etc. I'm waiting for sumeru archon quest because I want to see the Traveler's cool golden aura again and(probably) him using 4 elements simultaneously
@jadepuguon1177
@jadepuguon1177 2 жыл бұрын
Eh.. according to the current trend, they're probably going to place the traveler in the sidelines again.
@aloywong658
@aloywong658 2 жыл бұрын
Those Interlude don't focus on the Traveler often
@gianna526
@gianna526 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so impressed with the Sumeru quest, Traveler was actually the protagonist. We got to see her face during almost every quest, which I noticed wasn't as common in the other archon quests. She also had a role to play, she wasn't just a witness to everything.
@davetherebel278
@davetherebel278 2 жыл бұрын
I always had the idea that aether and lumine were ounce royalty because of their clothing. If aether and lumine left their world it may have been, a way of saying their were going against the rule but it reality it was put of desperation and hope to maybe one day return and save their world. It may also explain why the abyss sibling is so motivated as the princess since maybe if the sibling can do this against Celestia maybe they can save their old home
@ZenithintheMaking
@ZenithintheMaking 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Travelers They're the best characters
@tessahwa
@tessahwa 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say that Aether may be the representative choice of Genshin in the art, but they stated both Lumine and him are the protagonists. Aether and Lumine are both the travellers and the Abbys prince/princess.
@AnuelleCheng
@AnuelleCheng 2 жыл бұрын
really nice analysis once again! the traveler twins' story is my favorite part of this channel tbh 😊
@unknown20005
@unknown20005 2 жыл бұрын
also the fact that zhongli voice is the first one you hear at the start of the game mean’s at least 2 thing’s 1 zhongli knows everything that will happen in teyvet before it happens or 2 it is the future zhongli and everything already happened in teyvet yet zhongli is just telling the story of what happens and we are all just experiencing it through the eyes of the traveler we choose also it means that no matter what happens zhongli survives and while we think aether and lumine are different as in gender i have a theory that they might not have a defined gender and are just based off of there looks for example the reincarnated as a slime anime rimuru despite having a male body it still could be passed off as feminine and i even think some characters in the anime get that confused and lastly zhongli voice actor being at the start of the game mean’s mihoyo at least had everything up to zhongli release already planned and that the voice actor could of been one of the first one’s hired
@BOverlord
@BOverlord 2 жыл бұрын
It's been confirmed by MiHoYo that Honkai Impact and Genshin Impact are in the same universe. The star devouring darkness is definitely the Honkai. K.K. is obviously either Kevin Kaslana or Kiana Kaslana (my bet is on Kevin because the Unknown God looks exactly like Kiana but the twins didn't recognize her, plus Kevin actually goes by K.K.). The Twins traverse the Sea of Quanta which contains bubble universes. Most likely Teyvat is one of them. Oh, and there's an official artpiece from Honkai 3rd Impact where an organization is actually watching what is happening on Teyvat. Basically Genshin is one of Honkai's Alternate Universe story events, but an entire game.
@unknown_potato
@unknown_potato 11 ай бұрын
We still haven't gotten any information about the traveler's parents. We don't even know if they died or something
@CariagaXIII
@CariagaXIII 2 жыл бұрын
wait 10 years hoyo will release a character that will reveal the character that will tell travelers past.. who knows we might get a 5 second audio of the twin in a limited event
@knightjj2891
@knightjj2891 2 жыл бұрын
Aether and Lumine are awesome and their lore is so interesting, also intereting theory :)
@fitchlekvoda8721
@fitchlekvoda8721 2 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with the currently accepted timeline... it just doesn't make sense that the Abyss Twin woke up almost immediately after being caught by the heavenly Principles. At various points it's been hinted that the Abyss Twin has been active since almost immediately after the Cataclysm. However... what if the fight between the Twins and the Heavenly Principles happened not after the disaster in Khaenri-ah, but before? That the Heavenly Principles was catching them because they had a specific role for them, with the Traveler Twin essentially taken hostage? That the horror at seeing the destruction is due to their realization they had a role in this? Their drive now to restore Khaenri-ah, a form of atonement? If the view of the destruction was indeed Starsnatch Cliff, then below, under all that destruction, was where the Traveler Twin was sealed away, so the Abyss Twin may well have thought their sibling lost in that disaster, hence wandering the world relatively directionless, until finally throwing their lot in with the Abyss order...
@pozzsicle
@pozzsicle 2 жыл бұрын
MC literally said that they crash landed in Teyvat, the twin woke up first and spent god knows how long exploring Teyvat with Dain. Then, Khaenri'ah was destroyed so the twin frantically woke MC up so they could leave, and when they tried to leave, the Unknown God stopped them.
@lexiejvsrm7069
@lexiejvsrm7069 2 жыл бұрын
@@pozzsicle I think Lumine and Dain explored teyvat after the cataclysm
@Vincenttttoo
@Vincenttttoo Жыл бұрын
@@lexiejvsrm7069 yes because dain is only 500 years old!
@non-existent..
@non-existent.. 2 жыл бұрын
i'm like half into the video and why did i start cracking the second i saw kazuha fade into the screen
@iyasujtee
@iyasujtee 2 жыл бұрын
for me i got a totally different expeculations about the traveler twins and the teyvat,. the twins are unrestrained celestial being that travels and visit worlds, make friends, memories and leave without the world sustainers preventing them to leave. it just happened to they pick a wrong world the teyvat and the sustainer prevents them from leaving, took their powers including their memories of the other world they traversed to. the purpose is when celestia and the gods destroyed khanreiah bec they are so much advanced they posed a threat to them, the teyvat soon will fall into chaos so the sustainer used the trav
@avisachdeva8716
@avisachdeva8716 2 жыл бұрын
WARNING: SPOILERS Does nobody notice the similarity in the intro to wishing? when you get a character, they come out of the stars, in the form of a constellation segment, so maybe, the travellers were actually travellers sumonned by someone, because technically, when we wish, we summon characters and weapons On the other hand, if we look at many game mechanics, has anyone noticed that when you pause the screen, in co op, it doesn't pause everything? mobs can still move and hurt you, so maybe, paimon doesn't work when you go to another world, and possibly, co op, is a way of the traveller going through their own memories of their friends, but its plagued with tevyat. Considering that dainslief also has a galaxy cape, LIKE PAIMON, and a mask covering him, showing irreparable damage to that area, I can conclude that dainslief was the companion and "paimon" for the abyss sybling. Another thing to point out is their clothing, both of the twins are generally wearing clothes that could signify/show a status, so our abyss twin could possibly be true royalty, as the clothes we wear are forever, and the symbols on the clothes do not change either. Coming back to game mechanics, when you decide to change the time, instead of showing a simple clock, it shows an old clock capable of only moving 48 hours at a time, maybe, something like the bell's clock, in the description of the bell, it states that the weapon is old and its clock barely works anymore, keyword, being barely, it still means that it works to some extent, meaning that the clock in the bell, could possibly be a smaller version of the clock we see earlier. Possibly relating to the events of khaenriah and the abyss twin. Going back to dainslief being the paimon for the abyss twin, it could be that our abyss twin, created that clock, and on their adventure, people made replicas of sort, making the bell weapon with it. Another game mechanic in the time skip is how it almost always, goes up and shows the landscape, possibly indicating the traveller seeing the stars align in a way, the only place it doesn't happen, is sumeru, and as almost all of us know, sumeru, was in a samsara. Sumeru is also protected by the academia and 2 gnosises in the city, Scaramouche's gnosis & Nahida's gnosis, if this is true, it means that our time skipping ability is directly related to khaenriah, which is lessened/weakened in areas with great "celestial" power.
@krys9463
@krys9463 2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully there will be a new hoyoverse game soon called Honkai Star Rail, which I believe will have quite a few clues to the twins origins. Since your literally on a train that travels from planet to planet, so there's a chance that the characters will have at least heard about them. If the twins aren't from Project Ark, which they might not have but there's more lore to come about that, then things may have played out differently. For example their planet was destroyed however they were saved just in time, learned how to travel the galaxy and defend themselves, then left to find a new home. If we do get info about the twins through Star Rail then at most I think we'll be waiting until at least the second planet, by then we might be in Fontaine (maybe) it depends on when the game is fully released. On another note, the popular idea is that the gnostic chorus siblings are the twins. But I've been wondering if they are actually former pawns that failed to get the job done, whatever that may be.
@jonathandavies1716
@jonathandavies1716 2 жыл бұрын
I'm certain K.K is K.K Slider from Animal Crossing.
@ais8332
@ais8332 2 жыл бұрын
I swear Dain's chasing Lumine in the cutscene reminds me of Yelan's kit, her E (skill)
@icefire2941
@icefire2941 2 жыл бұрын
Happy 1 year anniversary! Also I loved this video the Travelers are one of if not my favorite part of the Genshin lore and story, and I can't wait until we get more info on them. Also I don't know why, but I love it when games or movies from the same companies/producers collaborate, so I really hope Genshin is shown to be more connected to Honkai than we think.
@AcerolaHeart
@AcerolaHeart 2 жыл бұрын
Happy one Year, Aster!
@Wallacewellsenthusiast
@Wallacewellsenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that all the archons have ideals. (From another video of yours i think)For example Ei got corrupted by those ideals and became more of a villain to Inazuma itself (Sakoku decree and vision hunt decree). Could that happen to Abyss sibling? I am going to word this diiferently. Lumine could have been blinded by wanting to bring her homeland back whether that homeland is khanre'ah or her actual homeland. I am not too deep into the lore but this could be possible. Her goal blinded her and now she just wants it back. Wants to have her own people, have a place to rule alongside with her brother. At the end, to have her brother understand why. It seems Aether doesnt agree with them already. ''To illuminate the bright upper sky'' It doesntt make much sense to me. I tried this because Lumine's name means ''to illuminate'' and Aether's says it means bright upper sky. All names have meanings so that mean's Hoyoverse's names probably also have meanings. IT seems weird to bring this up but it could be a clue for what could happen in the future. Almost everyone in the genshin lore train knows about Scaramouche and the fake sky. ''To illuminate the bright upper sky'' is just the action of illuminating the sky. This could as well just be nothing or a reference to how they came as stars long ago. Stars illuminate the sky. Of course this is just me rambling without coming to a direct answer so anyone who reads this could percieve this their own way
@talksheetgethit1515
@talksheetgethit1515 2 жыл бұрын
“K.K” Kazuha: Those are my Initials, allow me to introduce myself.
@dhruvmarwadi
@dhruvmarwadi 6 ай бұрын
I have a theory, when the heavenly principal takes one of the siblings away from the other, she places one sibling in the past, another in the present or the other way around.. That's why one of the siblings information is in the IRMIMSUL.
@olgabutorina4156
@olgabutorina4156 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Anniversary! Thank you for your videos!
@hanoyukina
@hanoyukina 2 жыл бұрын
happy 1 year aster !!!!
@jovelyndungog5366
@jovelyndungog5366 2 жыл бұрын
K.K might be kosma or kevin killer(one of vill v personality)
@shadowheart2350
@shadowheart2350 2 жыл бұрын
When you are talking about the unknown God in the background is the same on the loading screen Well you're waiting for the resources and data to load After it loads it has a door and the door has a bright light and send you through it I believe that the door is the gateway from the 2 dimensions when you 1st go to play the game
@Nokyyyyy
@Nokyyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
I just realised that Dainsleif's dash is very similar to Yelan's Do they use the sane magic ?
@albedomain2446
@albedomain2446 2 жыл бұрын
K.K. Kiana Kaslana, Kallen Kaslana, Kevin Kaslana. Hmm.. Maybe a Kaslana.
@ChikyuuKun
@ChikyuuKun 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@funkyhales711
@funkyhales711 Жыл бұрын
I wish Lumine was the main traveler 💔
@Silber_Ag
@Silber_Ag 2 жыл бұрын
Genshin was confirmed to be a part of the honkaiverse. This makes things even more interesting for the Travelers.
@gorgonzola9373
@gorgonzola9373 2 жыл бұрын
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!! 🎉🎉🎉
@Awesomesauceeee-f4d
@Awesomesauceeee-f4d Жыл бұрын
I got the musical Diagnosis about Genshin before the vid started 💀👍✨
@NivaOranir
@NivaOranir 2 жыл бұрын
I think you really need to get into the honkaiverse lore, genshin ties into it to a point where its not just theories but pretty deliberate parallels. Genshin might be another world but its still a parallel one to honkai 3rd's world.
@dewitt4724
@dewitt4724 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel keep up the good work
@leon6717
@leon6717 Жыл бұрын
Could it be that lumine is a doppleganger of sorts? Being that all things must come to an end in teyvat. Doppleganger are born when an immortal being does not die. And instead a shadow clone takes their place, this is improbable I just thought it was an idea.
@detroider7844
@detroider7844 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on A.R. Because we can go to Inazuma at AR 30 and meet Dain only at AR 45 Maybe Sumeru will be available at AR 40 before meeting Dain
@ambar___9975
@ambar___9975 2 жыл бұрын
My boy did not meant to premiere this
@ChillwithAster
@ChillwithAster 2 жыл бұрын
but what if you dont call me out
@ambar___9975
@ambar___9975 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChillwithAster LMAO
@boruto536
@boruto536 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChillwithAster there is a name card about aether/lumine traveller name card
@xdsmile5359
@xdsmile5359 2 жыл бұрын
OMG
@samstranger2180
@samstranger2180 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to think that they're made this way (mysterious) to be a blank paper for us to fill. Maybe we'll know the truth about them at the end of the story. Hopefully.
@burningpapersun1
@burningpapersun1 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the 1 year
@munchielitten5961
@munchielitten5961 25 күн бұрын
Could lumine be aethers back up disguised as a sibling
@interialisms
@interialisms 2 жыл бұрын
wait where did the zhongli vl come from from the beginning i didnt do the new quest 🗿🗿
@cutepotato1321
@cutepotato1321 2 жыл бұрын
That one is very old It's at the end of his story quest I think One of them
@xdsmile5359
@xdsmile5359 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its a voiceless from his first story quest
@aloywong658
@aloywong658 2 жыл бұрын
Ones upon a time, their world was thanosed. The end
@hashirama1612
@hashirama1612 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I love your videos
@jonathanmatthews8862
@jonathanmatthews8862 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t put too much weight on the opening cutscene. It is a story telling mechanic. The events you witness are the events as the traveler remembers them. It is possible that the traveler does not properly remember what happened and what we witness is an inaccurate or incomplete scene.
@stwawbewwycat9378
@stwawbewwycat9378 2 жыл бұрын
Okay you are not going to believe me but my name is also aster but I say it as asteer a bit of a longer e sound , this is my first time watching a video of yours :)
@StoickTheTired
@StoickTheTired 2 жыл бұрын
And it seems that the Abyss sibling has forgotten the words of K.K
@doplop
@doplop 2 жыл бұрын
what if the twins are from one of the previous cycles of teyvat??
@hellother52
@hellother52 2 жыл бұрын
didn't mona sayed they r not from this world and didn't the traveler said it too
@doplop
@doplop 2 жыл бұрын
@@hellother52 idk i dont remember making this comment lmao
@qiwunu
@qiwunu 2 жыл бұрын
if they travelled through space, they **technically** don't need to breathe too
@munchielitten5961
@munchielitten5961 25 күн бұрын
Star devouring darkness the delelte button im honkai sr??
@bunnywifalaptop3684
@bunnywifalaptop3684 2 жыл бұрын
Happy 1 year aniversary!
@Freewill415
@Freewill415 2 жыл бұрын
somehow i think Kiana and the will of honkai are involved in everything
@MainDoorFrames
@MainDoorFrames 2 жыл бұрын
Project Ark?????? Flamechaser/Moth related?
@jinx3709
@jinx3709 2 жыл бұрын
when you indirectly referred K.K. as Kaedehara Kazuha, man, I'm ded now 😭
@vivid-o-starry6604
@vivid-o-starry6604 2 жыл бұрын
Could it be that the twins are/become an Archon/god? Like an Archon/god of History or something?
@theeducationalweeb6031
@theeducationalweeb6031 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos Aster!
@Nyxaris_LnD
@Nyxaris_LnD 7 ай бұрын
I am insanely late but... I have a this question in my head and it won't go away. I am getting the impression (and I might be incredibly stupid too. I don't know), but I feel like Traveler slept twice? First time upon arriving (?), or later? And then, we sleep again for 500 years after the Unknown God seals the Traveler to prevent them from leaving Teyvat? O.O I might be wrong but I feel like we spent more years sleeping than awake in Teyvat 🤣
@TsaritsaTheSnezhnaya
@TsaritsaTheSnezhnaya Жыл бұрын
Please update it after all New Region Archon quest
@brezzendorf
@brezzendorf 2 жыл бұрын
KK = Kaedehara Kazuha lolz HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!! I'm new here tho, but enjoy it so far
@randomguyblank1616
@randomguyblank1616 2 жыл бұрын
Shit did I miss the anniversary stream?
@badreedinedjellali1328
@badreedinedjellali1328 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the traveler is some kind of dittie because he sounds like he head a normal life and was normal human
@Hohthxopq
@Hohthxopq 3 күн бұрын
K.k is Kate kaslayna
@Razorrrrrrrrrrrr
@Razorrrrrrrrrrrr 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine chess Abyss lumine is the queen Aether is the king The world is the rest 198th like 23rd comment
@luminalhistoria7496
@luminalhistoria7496 2 жыл бұрын
K.K? is it kiana kaslana?
@hellother52
@hellother52 2 жыл бұрын
or kevin kaslana
@gnrngkcntnf
@gnrngkcntnf 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you find the voiceline that says the travelers are different from teyvat's stars? I didn't know that, and it might be important for a oersonal theory
@ChillwithAster
@ChillwithAster 2 жыл бұрын
Aether's Voice Lines
@adkan1995
@adkan1995 2 жыл бұрын
K.K., like the singer from animal crossing ?
@SoulStorms
@SoulStorms 2 жыл бұрын
ASTER IMPACT POSTED AGAIN
@thegeneralreggie
@thegeneralreggie 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@hagegumtho1729
@hagegumtho1729 11 ай бұрын
So lumine gets such a good looking traveling companion and aether gets paimon?
@lockdown888-
@lockdown888- Жыл бұрын
Khaenri'ah was destroyed the storyline same Æsir-Vanir war that was caused by Gullveig from Norse mythology ... In genshin it was war between Khaenri'ah and The 7 Nation but the reason still unknown maybe traveler siblings have made something that Heavenly Principles fear of..same as Gullveig that make Odin fear about her power ...when Khaenri'ah was destroyed by the cataclysm The Seven Nation fight with monster, abyss order (Khaenri'ah people) and Fatui that all represent to Ragnarok .. Ragnarok is the end of the world it was war between Æsir ,monster and Vanir correct me if I am wrong.... traveler siblings past lore same as Gullveig
@Qmontun
@Qmontun 2 жыл бұрын
Wait... The battle pass cutscenes was about the traveler???
@bloodyblue9117
@bloodyblue9117 2 жыл бұрын
No but it’s a thought
@nicolevelazquez344
@nicolevelazquez344 Жыл бұрын
I’m still confused. So the traveler was asleep twice?
@MegaLinket
@MegaLinket 2 жыл бұрын
Another banger as usual
@jason-qc5lr
@jason-qc5lr Жыл бұрын
lol imagine if we are the unknown god's kids and shes just grounding us because we were fucking around the universe too much and neglecting our godly studies
@elknolasshrineofraja3966
@elknolasshrineofraja3966 2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️
@Sui0Generis
@Sui0Generis 2 жыл бұрын
So lemme get this straight, according to: dain and lumine, celestia is bad. the abyss order, celestia is bad. the fatui, celestia is bad. the vishaps, celestia is bad. the hilichurls, celestia is bad. so why the hell are they all in different factions fighting each other if they all have a common enemy and all of them have supposedly "learned the truth of the world"?
@ChimeraLotietheBunny
@ChimeraLotietheBunny 2 жыл бұрын
Oh golly wow!!!
@KallaTheYapper347
@KallaTheYapper347 2 жыл бұрын
Does K.K. stand for Kiana Kaslana?
@Nino-pn4vc
@Nino-pn4vc 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it would be kiana. Kevin kaslana is more likely...
@xdsmile5359
@xdsmile5359 2 жыл бұрын
Kentucky khicken
@pixadragon46
@pixadragon46 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know about the relationship between honkai and genshin?
@hellother52
@hellother52 2 жыл бұрын
relation not relationship no there is no offical source mentioning it
@pixadragon46
@pixadragon46 2 жыл бұрын
@@hellother52 check out fallen rosemary behind the scenes trailer for honkai impact
@littlegriseo
@littlegriseo 2 жыл бұрын
K.K....Kiana...Kevin ??????
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