What Is The Virtue And Vice Of ENFPs? | Charity Vs. Depravity | CS Joseph

What is the virtue and vice of ENFPs? CS Joseph explores Charity Vs. Depravity.
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[@dusterduster4]

What EVERY ENFP should know. Time permitting, in my busy day, I finally got to watch the end of the video and this is where Joseph nailed it. As an ENFP, the end of the video is where C.S. Joseph’s insights into ENFP impressed me. I can relate. Maturity for an ENFP is a huge deal and can make all the difference. Bottled Lightning: I ran across someone on the internet talking about research were they gave the different MIBT types brain scans. When they gave the subject a question or something to think about, the other types only used two or three area of the brain. In an ENFP, the whole brain lit up lit up like a Christmas tree. This seems to be caused by the way an ENFP stores and retrieves information and explains why an ENFP's change topics without warning and also come up with so many random ideals and thoughts. ( FYI: Handy if you are a writer.) IMO: The thing is, this activity requires a great deal of nero-chemicals to feed the hungry brain - hence, the craving for new experiences, challenges, mindless sensations, and drugs to feed the beast and then the need for down time to re-energize and start the cycle anew. ( Remember things like drugs, like so many other choices in life, is just exchanging one set of problem for another.) It is crucially important for you to stop squandering your energy by pursuing too many different things. You must use your feeling judgment more to discriminate better between an interesting idea and something which is worthwhile pursuing. Plan some things out step by step. Make plans and know what you are getting into. Being an ENFP can be hard, but worth it. Tips for ENFP, (My morning cheat sheet. Lol) Are you under stress? Are you being extra driven, inconsiderate, and uncharacteristically authoritative? Looks for early signs and make needed adjustments ASAP. And be aware, a turbulent ENFP may be overusing their N e in a negative way, and see endless negative possibilities. Give yourself some space and time alone to sort out your feelings. Give yourself some time to “escape” and rest / nap/ think. Ask yourself every morning.... What are you procrastinating about! Are you waiting until the absolute last minute to start things? This can easily happen when there is no deadline. Don’t give the panic monster a reason to show up. Remember, not doing some things can be the source of a large amount of long term unhappiness and regrets. (and it feels good to "check it off" the list.) What mundane task are you avoiding? Focus more on some routine and everyday matters or get someone to do them for you. Are you biting off more than you can chew in any areas? Surprisingly, this can happen more when you are under stress. I think it is a way to avoid the real task at hand. What conflicts are avoiding? ( All of them. lol) What projects are you not finishing? We are the golden retriever going from point A to point B and then sees a squirrel. Beware of bright shiny objects to distract you. What promises are you not keeping? Learn to say, "We will see." or I will try." Promises are contracts. Our word is who we are. How are you not taking care of yourself? Eat right. Take supplements as needed. Learn "Nootropics." What are you currently obsessing about? What can you do to be more grounded? Have "some" routine / structure in your day. Learn some "J" Skills. Are you seeking mindless experiences and sensations? Don't let it control you. (And Don't control, be in control.) And remember to periodically make lists of goals and accomplishments. Revisit your goals and accomplishments often to maintain a sense of direction. Make goals "Dreams with a deadline." Spend time alone regularly for the purpose of thinking through issues in your life. Learn /take time to think deep. You can do it! Work on your life calendar. Do Good for Goodness sake. Not for what you will get in return. Try to do one good deed a day. Do it. Ultimately success in your life depends on you using your introverted feeling to keep your intuition within useful bounds. You must also cultivate enough J skills for projects to bear fruit. Rules and deadlines must be respected. Hope this helps. Good luck. ENFP Male, age 59 (Old fart)

[@CSJoseph]

Wow, well said sir. Thank you for your post.

[@david_oliveira71]

Wow poweful advice! Thanks (-INFJ) :)

[@Chaosmavin]

This is great! When I was in my 30's I started meditating and began a spiritual path and everything changed. I actually now at 48 struggle with immature ENFPs where before this I loved other enfp playmates. I think the one piece missing from this is if ENFP have practices for meditation and self-love they become way less needed and filled with gratitude!

[@dorrilus]

Appreciate you, only 22

[@imfacejacked6046]

I think we ENFPs need to get into a cycle of appreciation. Just like there is always something to complain about there is also always something to appreciate. It's all in how you Chanel your energy and focus. Positivity breads positivity and negativity likewise. We can at times connect all the negatives and drown ourselves in pity to where we feel like we have nothing to lose becoming maliciously reckless, destructive, and chaotic.

[@TerryVanzetti]

My ENFP has scammed money off me to give gifts to other people. --INFJ

[@emilyw5522]

Ive stuck with my ENFP bff through their depravity side and now they are fiercly loyal! And so charitable!

[@alicemudgarden92]

Sometimes that's all we need

[@Carmellalovespink]

May i ask what’s your type though?

[@ScotianSouthy]

As an ENFP I personally differ on your theory about the top love language for ENFP's based on me and my ENFP girlfriends top love language. My love languages rank as follows: Words of affirmation (by a large margin), Acts of service, and Physical touch. Gifts are just things, and I don't value the things I own. They depreciate pretty fast and take up room. As I have matured I have become a minimalist. From moving so many times I have paired down to the essentials. I am in my prime when hitchhiking with a 40L backpack. Without things I have freedom. Plus, receiving gifts can be very awkward because often times I am pretty particular about the few things I own and often the gift giver will watch the gift sit in a corner for months before touched again.

[@firstlaunch]

I have to say you have an understanding about this type and are the first to actually be truthful with it. I've experienced this depravity side with a female I know, it is almost narcissistic. Then she goes and does the most self sacrificing things, it makes her endearing but not trustworthy so you end up keeping her at arms length.

[@dusterduster4]

To be an ENFP is amazing. Simply amazing. "My mind a kingdom is." We take in this vast amounts of knowledge from the world around us and never taking anything at face value, we question everything. As we grow, we become the wisest of the groups. We connect dots and see a bigger picture of the world and its possibilities. Awesome. But we do grow frustrated with those that "Just don't get it." Tip: The ENFP must remember is this modern time of information overload to take time to think and process. Re-learn the skill of deep thinking or you will forget how to do this and will always be reacting instead of being proactive. Just a tip. (For me, it is...Reflect or read in the morning. Work during the day. Play / relax at night. ) Anyways, for an ENFP, some truths change often and with them our values. This happens a lot. Sometimes daily. It is like a dam moving target or a "locked box inside another locked box". We are always growing at some level of another and love to take someone ( Perhaps an "I") along for the ride. But be warned. In our explorations, we often push boundaries and people just to see what will happen and this gets us into a lot of trouble. We sometimes do thing we wish we had not. We don't try to hurt people, we just do not always think it though. We are very curious about how things / people work and do not want to wait to test theories. We seek out "J's" (or something) to do the mundane tasks and to give us some grounding. Armed with this all this....crap, our hearts keep of from becoming evil masterminds. Where most people could come up with two or three ways to hurt a person, we could come up with a thousand. But we use our superpowers for good, not evil. For which the world should be very grateful. And we do not hold grudges. Well, most of the time. But sometimes our heart gets hurt and it shuts down for a while to heal. (We can love deeply.) Tip 2: For an ENFP, you could do worse then to learn the craft of writing and have fun with it. Many perks here. I started at age 50 and love it. Went OCD on it too. Kind of funny because English was my worst class in school. Go figure. Note to self: Stay on topic.

[@CSJoseph]

Well said

[@hunterbartley7071]

John Myatt dang dude. You nailed it. Especially the villain part. Haha

[@Nebur9180]

I'm very grateful for you Superman!

[@looovee1000]

My ENFP friend is at war with capitalism and landlords and is so charitable in doing this.. love it

[@SEVENTHREEANDNINE]

😮experienced this in my head. Literally wrote about landlords and the gov in an email responding to a petition to sign from a family member. I didn’t send. I can write texts and responses for days but then I ‘restrict ’ the rant bc feel it’s a bit indulgent when all somekne did was send a forward to god knows how many people. It wasn’t even personal but I gave a personal essay response somehow that makes an hour feel like a minute!

[@looovee1000]

@@SEVENTHREEANDNINE Just send it! If you don't do it, chances are nobody will.. and I have seen great things coming from things that I thought were no use (and I'm an ISFJ, so my Ne Inferior has learned from those Ne Heroes actions)

[@heatherpelchat3141]

I’m an ENFP. This was hard to hear when I initially heard you. It took some time to process the information. I have low self esteem and don’t feel worthy of anything given. Therefore I am appreciative. If I don’t find someone who appreciates what I have to give and I don’t feel valued, I can spiral down. While I have never hurt someone intentionally I have done things I never thought I would ever do. I give gifts but don’t really want gifts and I have turned down gifts. I give gifts sometimes to be appreciated, and I recognize that it is expecting something in return. If I am not appreciated or taken for granted, I will not take back what is given but I won’t waste any more time/money on someone who doesn’t reciprocate. I was in sales and was very good at it, but I found I couldn’t look myself in the mirror in the morning because it went against almost every core value I have. I was the caregiver for both of my parents and basically gave up my life for 14 years, until they passed. I fight against

[@roberttrusardi6114]

I’m not convinced on ENFPs and depravity being our vice. Depravity actually seems like it fits more with ENTPs as a vice. Charity vs Insincerity for ENFP seems like a better fit to me. We can be incredibly giving or sad and confused. I’ve never been accused or thought of myself as selfish before. Out of integrity, sure, depraved maybe, but more often then not my vices are more about being confused.

[@spannycat2]

People either call me a doormat who's easily manipulated and clingy or they call me manipulative and selfish and avoidant. So these two things makes sense for me.

[@SEVENTHREEANDNINE]

Yes!!😊

[@samseloo4962]

I think the enfp is someone people cannot see into. How they think and why they do what they do. It’s not really a choice it’s a code almost. Me and a really good enfp friend of mine(we are the same person almost). Have an issue leading people on because we love the gratification of being the center of attention and being the special ones. We’ve both gone far and away above everyone else to help people. But I can really see how an ENFP can act the way they do in your stories. Life is a movie for us. It’s all about us. Friends that keep us in check need to be there.

[@zajaiva5]

As an ENFP, I agree. We can do the most self-sacrifising, selfless acts for all the selfish reasons. And after many years of thinking that I am somehow evil because of it, I have come to terms with it. My closest ones are getting the best treatment they can ask for, they dont complain, it all works out, thats all that matters. I have realized that I cant take out "self" out of my acts because if I do, I lose my feelings, I feel nothing, all feels fake. I am not "in love" with myself, its just that I love people through myself. If that makes me a bad person, so be it, but all 16 types exist for a reason, we are meant to be this way.

[@mysterroniouscherry326]

I definitely need people to keep me in check. Everytime an ISTJ or my INTJ mom says something like, “ You are blessed with such and such. Look at (other people) who don’t get what you get, and still doing their best. What excuse do you have?” That is like an OUCHie. It really humbles me all the time cos I can’t argue with that, no excuses to provide.

[@abesapien9930]

My thoughts: -I think a more typical ENFP is the "sideline hippie": someone who is constantly concerned about charitable causes, but never has the organization to execute. I rarely see the extremes of Charity or Depravity you have (but of course that doesn't mean they don't exist). -About the "gravy train": ENFP's hate working typical office jobs, since most office work does not use their natural creativity, compassion, or entrepreneurial drive. They quit/switch jobs constantly, and struggle their entire lives with finances as a result. So, the promise of escaping from the burden of money and unfulfilling office work is exactly why they crave money and seek it so much. It has nothing to do with wanting money in and of itself to buy an expensive lifestyle. Money = relief. This is also why they empathize so effortlessly with the money struggles of others, like your church leader who gave out the free bikes. -A very damaged ENFP can seek solace in drugs, but I think they are far more drawn to psychedelics that provide inspirational material for their Ne + Fi. The dude at the party that brought shrooms or DMT is most certainly an ENFP. On the other hand, if an ENFP is into a hard drug habit (like your friend), they are retreating to the comfort of their Si and trying to nurse some very deep wounds. This may not be a significant example, but in times of great stress I have had major caffeine problems. We're talking 5+ refills of a large Diet Coke at my local fast food joint, daily. It would take me an hour + to get through my daily fix. That was my ENFP "drug," and maybe I was lucky. -I think the opposite of Charity is not Depravity. I think it's False Martyrdom. I know an endless number of ENFP's who focus on how wronged and hurt they've been by life, and carry it around almost like a badge of honor. It's really grotesque to see their empathy turned inward selfishly: "Poor, poor me!!!!" Like you said, they need to get closer to the suffering of others for their empathy to find direction. -From an ENFP standpoint, this was a sobering but informative video. Thank you.

[@marcospreciado2403]

False martydom sound very accurate

[@pentaq]

true. besides, their charity, as I have seen, is not always based on empathy. rather, it is the desire to see them as good/special people. they often hide their egocentrism that way. yuk!

[@zephaniahpodlewski2965]

we can barely tell the difference between our needs and the needs of others, our wants and the the wants of others, our problems and the problems of others, our demons or the demons of others.

[@paigeheartly8936]

YES

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

that’s cause of Ti trickster

[@JM-cp6ei]

I’m an ENFP, and I feel like I wear the rose colored glasses. I’ve been burnt many times bc instead of looking at reality I look at the potential of people and what they could be. I’m working on that and getting much better. When I get deprived, I sign up with the 3 charities I work with so I can feel really good and get back on track. My soul sings bc every single human being was greatly affected in some way just by handing out pizza to a bunch of homeless people lol or dressing up a battered young mother. I’m a trauma nurse and I will not leave the ER bc I want to be the first individual a terrified patient meets so I can make them feel comfortable, explain everything and empower them in their helpless situation. But at the same time I don’t want to leave the ER bc it reminds me that life is so precious. I wish u would come out and hang with me lol. Please give us a chance 🙏🏼. I really admire how smart u are and I’m learning a lot from ur vids

[@CSJoseph]

ty ty

[@cameronpickford7568]

I’m an INTJ (5w6) in relationship with an ENFP (2w3). This helps a lot. Thank you.

[@LlamassU__]

Im sorry, but what does the stuff in the Parenthesis mean?

[@Zekistential]

@@LlamassU__ It's enneagram. A different kind of typology

[@kate.writes]

This is why ENFPs are the scariest to me.

[@faybrink-yourhoustonrealtor]

My mom is an awesome ENFP (I'm an INFJ). I wouldn't qualify her as charitable or depraved in the traditional meanings of those words. She's definitely a good person, but she's gotten the short end of the stick nearly all her life. She's not materialistic, but does enjoy gifts. She's very giving with love, loyalty, trust, and service until you burn or lie to her. She's amazing. My dad totally squandered everything with her. Her sense of justice is integral to who she is. Definitely agree with you about needing to point out the golden rule. She like my best friend (also an ENFP) is an incredible flirt and seeks real mature selfless and loyal love as the ultimate validation. She could care less about money but definitely agrees with the Golden Rule. I would be lucky to be even half as amazing as my mom or my best friend, they're both incredible women I admire deeply and have phenomenal relationships often lifelong with their friends, family, and coworkers.

[@CSJoseph]

you sure she isnt an ENFJ?

[@faybrink-yourhoustonrealtor]

C.S. Joseph pretty sure, she tested as one and upon reading her type description it makes total sense why it didn't work out for her and my dad, an ESTJ with OCD, hoarding, and narcissistic tendencies. They are however both really great with money when not tied down to people with an unhealthy attitude about finances and are great at choosing gifts or selfless benevolence towards others. My mom is honestly the biggest reason why I have ended up choosing the paths and values in life that I have. Though my father tried, he's a massive hypocrite, do as I say not as I secretly and underhandedly do, I can get away with it but you can't, super controlling and manipulative. It helps that my mom had humble beginnings as the daughter of two rural school teachers, her dad dying of cancer when she was only 13, my grandma remarried a man with 11 children, so she had to go along to get along on the farm with all those people and overcome a lot to try to make the life she wanted for herself, she also went on to get a marketing degree and worked for the last 30-odd years in insurance subrogation (sort of like arbitration like a judge, big on analysis and fairness, she's a great advocate as a result) and my bestie is a nurse too (like me) that is from a family of doctors, lawyers, and nurses that all knew how to handle money from a young age. Their personalities are very different from mine though, if it was just the Introvert vs. the Extrovert NFJ then I would think we'd be more similar than we are but it's not. They are both eerily and uncannily calm in the face of the storm when need be. Don't get me wrong though they definitely will both tell you what's bothering them in no uncertain terms and to much incredulous and comedic effects.

[@Typhoon792]

Wow, that is the perfect mom to have as an INFJ. You're really lucky.

[@GrafinVonHopper]

​@@Typhoon792True.

[@cynthiapereira8403]

My last love language is receiving gifts. As an ENFP- mine is touch.

[@mysterroniouscherry326]

Yeah gifts are kind of hit or miss with me. Touch is number one. Words of Affirmation though, eww last for me. I don’t need words, I need actions. Words are cheap and so fake, and kinda useless.

[@SEVENTHREEANDNINE]

Acts of service/ kindness and yes touch without feeling ‘engineered’!

[@SandiiCom]

Ok, so this video is a great description of "Drug Addicts", whom you seem to have confused with ENFP's. Addiction or depravity is not exclusive to one MBTI type. I'm ENFP and don't relate to any of this video at all. Maybe I have a more spiritual approach to life, but I'm hardly the only non-depraved ENFP. lol. Most ENFP's I know are OVERLY concerned with Ethics, and obsess over finding the balance between treating others well, whilst staying authentic & true to our own inner/spirits guidance. (but "Fi" to you, looks like being 'special snowflakes'). If you want to accurately study ANY mbti type, I would recommend you eliminate drug addicts from being your test subjects. lol

[@CSJoseph]

I think you are describing ENFJs and not ENFPs.

[@MyspaceEmo]

Untrue. Certain types have more of a predisposition towards drug use.

[@heartpoint5289]

Thank you so much for calling out this truth. If I were an ENFP and had not previously studied MBTI or other psychological/emotional/spiritual healing modalities, and was looking for guidance, this video could cause confusion and damage. I’m an ENFP, myself, but that’s not even relevant to this video. Yes, this could simply be (an unsophisticated) video about addicts. It also could be a video about individuals with C-PTSD, or a video of any of the 3 insecure Attachment Styles. Really any person who copes with trauma and therefore uses the majority of their internal resources protecting from, or numbing against perceived pain. So much so, that they are too self-focused, and are not aware of their impact on others. “Gratitude” (although a nice practice) alone is not any magic healing key for anyone. Also, he suggests “guilting” this person (who is in no way specific to an ENFP or any MBTI type). Guilt is literally the number one block to true healing. Guilt is a frozen state of self-focused punishment that stops us from being able to look deeper at our root issues. Looking deeper allows for empowering change, and accountability naturally follows. I hope no one takes anything in this video seriously. So here’s some ideas I shared, hoping to make even the tiniest positive impact. So of course you all must know that I expect TONS of gifts in response. And please make me feel super special too. If you all don’t, you’ll see me get so depraved you will realize the true meaning of the word!😂

[@benzfadel5594]

@@CSJoseph I need serious help I’m generally a textbook ENFP but I’m highly mystical highly spiritual highly intuitive highly ethical and a bit lazy very lazy I procrastinate but I still have all the enfp criteria weird bubbly enthusiastic creative very hyper

[@heartpoint5289]

@@Skilough yes😊

[@karankaran-us9vm]

I'm not sure enfp like gifts but they like affirmation and gratitude from the people they help....they do not solicit for gifts

[@jessicavee7455]

I'm an INFJ but I was in relationship with an ENFP. He was just like this, selfish, drugs, women; but for some reason he was so different with me. He couldn't hurt me and he was very kind. Lol! I am more confident than ever in the system your teaching. Thankful for you.

[@CSJoseph]

Dope!

[@ladyfoxwf1075]

So you've based an entire type over one person you met? Yikes!

[@dorrilus]

This content reveals itself as more spot on every time I return

[@stefani.delima]

Interesting. I thought my husband was an ENFJ, but he took your test and got ENFP, then I took it for him and also got ENFP for him. There was also a big difference in his behavior after our first child was born - like night and day. Interesting anecdotal evidence🤔

[@koolkravings348]

It’s 4am and I’ve been taking the time to watch videos of my type (ENFP) and my friend’s types so that I can understand people better. I don’t understand why there are so many butt hurt ENFP’s, because the things you say are true. I hate to admit how selfish I can become, but I know it’s possible. I’ve been there. I know how to make people think differently if I want them to, and I’ve purposely have made it happen so they can become their best selves. I’ve also done it as “payback” for the people I’ve felt deserved it for how they’ve treated others. I’m trying to better myself through research and then self reflection. It’s been hard, but I assume that’s because I’m young. I haven’t truly experienced life. I have just graduated high school, so life has yet to begin. I have given money out to people in hopes that it will make their day a little better, or so they live another day. I know I’m very lucky, though I’ve been abused growing up by an ESFJ mom so sometimes I wonder why I do it when I don’t feel “special” or even appreciated by my family/roots. In the end, I still have my close friends. Anyways, thank you for the honest input of your experiences with ENFP’s, it’s been really helpful!

[@ImmortalGaming551]

Very interesting video. As an ENFP (yeah, that’s my Te saying that I have credibility to answer this question, plus my Te child knowing that you are making that connection when reading this), I can say that I generally do not like surprise gifts. I like to know what I am receiving when I am receiving a gift. When I don’t know what the gift is, then I usually think about something I’ve always wanted or something that i have asked for for a long time, and when I find out that the gift is not that, I kind of get a little sadder per se. this could be depravity but I’m not sure on that one. But anyways, I don’t think ENFPs like surprise gifts but we definitely love gifts where we know what we are receiving

[@JosephSmith-md6tp]

We're not all depraved. And we're not all fully unaware. I strive to be charitable, but I struggle with depravity.

[@JosephSmith-md6tp]

Also, I don't think all ENFPs are like the one you experienced. I'm sorry you had a negative experience, but as long as we feel valued and like we belong we love to help and serve.

[@andytheawesomeness]

He never says all enfps are like that. This video is about how they can be at their worst and at their best so don’t get so sensitive about it I’ve seen him criticize other types way worse

[@JosephSmith-md6tp]

Also, I'm an ENFP and Quality Time is my most important Love Language. Gifts is a subsequent side of that.

[@jennwach9252]

I am most certainly ENFP but I am struggling to relate to this and perhaps it's my outlook that is hanging up for me. I big time feel that you do not like this personally type at all. Could be wrong, but, you seem bored taping this video and almost put out that you have to discuss them. I do know an ENFP who you have described to a T. I thrive on change, I adapt with ease. I don't like receiving gifts particularly.. I don't like materialism. As I'm watching this, I just realized I've viewed another eNFP related post of yours that I totally didn't understand either.. fine print? Don't get it. Charitable? Maybe.. I am more interested in understanding the other types much more than myself so that I can learn to communicate with them and create a better world together. I'm interested in the healing experience of making an effort to hear each other and value each other and our differences. Live and Let Live is a motto that I live by. when I was younger I wasn't self-aware at all and learning to become self aware was particularly difficult for me. But I was persistent in gaining the truth about myself and everything else in my personal existence. It is necessary to face your weaknesses as well as your strengths and acknowledge both and keep a balanced regard of both. Otherwise arrogance can come in the form of self adoration or self-loathing. I really enjoyed your other videos and have found a lot of accurate statements in them from you. I'm a little bit sad that that your experience with enfps in your life has led you to have a negative View but that doesn't sum up everyone in this category and that's unfortunate. Not every ENFP in the world is going to be swindling, abusive drug lord, folks. Or a manipulative social engineering asshole who is self-absorbed and only the considers their own feelings before others needs to be reminded constantly that they should be grateful and kept in check in order to avoid falling to their apparently natural state of depravity. This is just a ludicrous leap to make for any type.

[@jennwach9252]

Another stretch is to suggest that any personality type needs someone else to discipline them in any sense. Aren't we responsible for ourselves and as human beings accountable to our very own conscience for the kind of human being we wish to be and the kind of mark we want to live on this Earth? I do realize that you are talking about weaknesses and strengths, virtue versus Vice here. But do you really think that all enfps as a whole need someone else to consistently hold them to their value system in order for them to be decent people? Rhetorical question I already know the answer. That's a quote from a movie disregard as a joke. Just saying.

[@CSJoseph]

Jenn Wach to be fair, I recorded this on 10 hours of sleep in 5 days. Have you looked at INFJ or ENTP in case you are mistyped?

[@CSJoseph]

Jenn Wach no one person can make it on their own. To think so or feel so is foolish.

[@jennwach9252]

C.S. Joseph I agree. It is a continual reminder I give my infj husband of 10 years. But, I am simply sitting at the end of the day we have to answer to ourselves the kind of person we want to be.

[@jennwach9252]

C.S. Joseph I don't usually comment on KZbin I didn't even see this other comment sorry. No I'm an ENFP to be sure. I know myself and I have tested enfp every time and have taken the complete test. I also know people who are certified counselors in the Meyer Briggs platform. You're not the first person to ask me if I've mistyped though but I know I haven't. However, I did marry an infj so, over the course of time, from observing him and respecting him I believe I have changed somewhat. I do have a manipulative streak that I'm not fond of, but haven't been this way since I was a lot younger. I will attest to the existence of that ability to influence others and very specific ways, but after I became aware that it was in me I was able to rewrite my habits over the course of time and continually concentrate on living in the state of humility and consideration of my integrity and the feelings of others around me. It's molded me into a different person in general. Speaking outside of the Myers Briggs realm right now. Meeting an infj changed my life. The real meaning of Charity is acts of service and love. In that regard, I am a very charitable person. But I don't really like it on a public level. It's too bad people always correlate charity with people donating money to organizations Etc. I think I'm more of a one-on-one type person but very extroverted. I choose extraversion primarily, but I am 51% extroverted and 49% introverted. I am an introverted state right now and can stay in this kind of State for months at a time not wanting to see anyone or talk to anyone or interact in person. But at some point I will go mad and will need to socialize with others.

[@Christie1127]

My ENFP Mom boyfriend, good friend, and daughter either are selfish or selfless, giving people. They are also very academic at the top of their class. They are great future planners with me. They believe they are good people, so it's good to expect them to actually behave well.

[@achilleaben4761]

My moto my whole life is actually "treat others the way you want to be treated" 😂 Plus extreme good when turned to the opposite it will be also on the extreme side; just saying I know it is not an excuse.

[@mysterroniouscherry326]

I actually hate that motto. FJs like to say that a lot too, but I feel that is insincerity right there. I don’t want to do things for people just because I expect them to return the favor. If I want to do good or be good, it would have to be driven by the desire to be the best version of myself, and not because I want others to treat me how I want to be treated. It’s like the nice guy trope. They are nice to people because they want others to perceive them as such and treat them nicely too. That disgust me. Extremely fake, pretentious and dishonest. It’s a flawed motto, I would rather say ‘Treat others how they treated you’, that would make more sense. Because you treat them based on what they deserve from how they treated you. If they’ve been good, we be good. If they are jerks, I mirror that.

[@mysterroniouscherry326]

Charitable is actually the last thing I would think of myself. But I’ve been told many many times by people around me of my charitable acts, which I have no recollection on. It always surprises me, because I constantly think of myself as selfish, but people around me always says otherwise. But looking back, it’s even more surprising that they are actually right. Unlike my FJ friends who would remember every single good they did to others in details(because they expect a return in the future), I always struggle to remember the good things I do. But when someone do come up and tell me how much I have changed their lives or I have helped them, it does remind me that I am capable to be and do good. I do remember there were times I would easily give people things, even if the things I gave is something special to me, but I give it away without a second thought. I was also told as a kid, I would split my money and share it to all the kids in the playground, leaving me with nothing left which is really weird why I would do that. But I think I just really love to share good things, especially if it has given me a good experience. Like I want others to share the same experience I did, and seeing them having a good experience as I did makes me happier. But all those things are done without me realising. Even till today Ive convinced myself that I am very selfish, always put myself first. But yet, my family and friends would still point out the good I did that I don’t recall. As far as depravity, I am not sure if it is true for me. Even if I am in a low turbulent part of my life, I would keep my negativity as far away from people as possible, by distancing myself from society. Although I love sharing/promoting my good experiences to other people, I hate sharing my negativity with others because it is my own burden and it is not for others to bear. I am very aware that negative energy can affect other people around me, hence I always detach myself so it would not affect others but me. Although my love one would argue that is selfish, for not involving them in my problems. For this I prefer to shoulder it alone, and only share good things to my love ones.

[@nabeelmk1804]

Big issue: I don’t know a single ENFP, including myself, that has gifts as their love language. For me it’s acts of service. You’re right about charity but it’s nothing to do with gifts: we’re just recklessly over-the-top, so we tend to not calculate the risks of decisions. So we don’t really have the self-restraint of other charitable types, such as ENFJs and ESFJs. Agreed with splitting from charity to depravity, it’s to do with poor emotional regulation, and regretting impulsive decisions (this explains the drug use). I also understand the fine print example of being good “con men”, but you’re also talking about ENFPs that are very underdeveloped, who don’t know how to use their strengths. Most people are underdeveloped, unfortunately. With ENFPs that can be dangerous, perhaps more so than others. But thankfully, their childish self-importance can deter people before anyone can get burned. Sorry about your experiences. Good video,

[@daisyduke717]

Nailed it! MBTI (the self awareness that comes along with it) helped me emerge from some pretty gross behavior. Loved this video, you know enfps like to hear the truth even if it hurts. We like self improvement!

[@DYKWINNING]

As a Enfp. If I give a great deal to someone, I would like to be given respect and/or acknowledgement at some point for going out of my way. If someone shows they listen to me and gift me with something I need thats great! Story time: I bought my friend a endgame ticket because hes broke. I dont think he cared either way. After I wanted to talk to him about the movie and bond. We have busy schedules and dont hang out often. On the way home hes on his phone texting his recent girlfriend. I got annoyed because I dont think shes a good influence and hes spending time with her, not me. I tell him "hey its rude to be on the phone can you get off till we get back". If he payed for the ticket I think I would have been more relaxed about being glued to the phone. I was thinking "how dare he". That may be a light version of what youre talking about. You were saying inferior Si wants to be comfortable at all costs. If theyre riding a gravy train, if they sense that train is dying, theyll do whatever it takes to keep that going?

[@CSJoseph]

yeah basically

[@cadencecaddie5551]

It kind of shows that you assume they're all bad. I love your videos and watch them for weeks now, but I am a bit sad that you have such a low opinion of ENFPs :(

[@CSJoseph]

I have a high opinion of them when they are being charitable. Also, I wouldn't be here doing this at all without an important ENFP in my life.

[@abesapien9930]

@@CSJoseph Is that ENFP Tony Robbins?

[@HakimJamil94]

I get what you're saying about ENFPs being on the receiving end of the Receiving Gifts love language. Although, it is more accurate to say that it is one of the best love languages to remind us of when we are deprived, rather than saying that it is our main love language. Other than Receiving Gifts, approaching us with Acts of Service is also really good.

[@zajaiva5]

Also as an ENFP I really need to feel like I am getting the best deal to actually put effort in, otherwise its just not worth it for me. I dont like that I think like that, but I do

[@laurenipsum7717]

Im an ENFJ dating a male ENFP. Most of your videos I agree with... but I feel like you’ve incorrectly described ENFP's and are using unhealthy types to describe them. I have befriended many ENFP’s, as well. The unhealthy types were manipulative in times of panic but not at all as you describe. You almost make them sound malicious. Most normal to healthy types were the most generous, loving, and good hearted people...never expected anything in return. My boyfriend has never had an enemy. Everyone who meets him is immediately drawn to his genuine need to help others. His love language is definitely words of affirmation and acts of service, not gift giving. Even in his lowest times, he never ever attempts to manipulate me or others. I’ve never had to “remind” him to think of others, he just does naturally. He continues to be thoughtful of others and usually only is angry with himself. I wish you’d be able to do away with your own experiences and realize that if you talked about all types in an unhealthy way, we would all sound nuts. Feels a bit unfair. Just my thought! Hope you are able to meet an actual good hearted ENFP one day because they’re one of the best types out there by far. Never felt more blessed to have such positive people around in my life!

[@CSJoseph]

Apparently you did not hear the words I said about them being the most charitable of all the types. :shrug:

[@laurenipsum7717]

C.S. Joseph C.S. Joseph yes, I did hear that part. However you went on to talk about how there are strings attached, usually. That to me is not “true” charitableness. I don’t believe majority of ENFPs do things with strings attached. Maybe I just got lucky with my ENFP boyfriend and friends. I’m not saying everything you mentioned was incorrect. In fact I found a lot of it to be true and blunt/honest! I just respectfully disagree with parts of it...but I appreciate you doing these videos, regardless. They’re very interesting and informing.

[@CSJoseph]

its just one example. I gave the type a pretty even explanation on both sides. Whether or not you feel it was unbalanced or unbiased, there is not much I can say to that at this time. I am biased, I make no excuses for that. But then again, I leave it up to the audience to make up their own mind as they should anyhow. Don't take my word for it, go find out :)

[@scartdarcy]

What you said seems true but it's quite naive to assume that most people would be extremely pure. People aren't one dimensional so how they act will necessarily vary according to a bunch of things. Not only that but most are in fact quite selfish and malicious, more so them they are angelical and kind hearted. I guess this is why we feel so touched and happy when we meet those sweet and caring ENFPs.

[@raybands3707]

My X-wife is an enfp she just contacted me out of the blue after 7 years and wrote me, " she wants me to be her friend & daddy" I told her I think she wants me to be her personal ATM I told her to go away and come back when she grows up ! I mean she's 53 years old and broke !

[@rev.jimjonesandthekool-aid4488]

Umm...is she hot?

[@warrenwantoobe1267]

@@rev.jimjonesandthekool-aid4488 when I married her she was five foot ten 170 lb triple E's and insisted that she had to eat all of my goo ! She worked for the Federal Reserve had an IQ of 190 and spoke eight different languages fluently, now she's 310 lb lives in public housing and is bipolar schizoaffective, who knew ? ( ● )"\|/"( ● )

[@heiro9611]

It’s funny that you bring up the gift giving thing, because my girlfriend (ENFP) brought me something back from her trip to Colorado and I jokingly said something like “gross you like me” (slightly out of context but just roll with it) and she said “fine I’ll just take back your gift” we were both joking around, I just thought it was funny when you brought up them taking back their gift.

[@zoe9419]

I think 20s-30s ENFPs tend to be developing their Te, and I think to someone with Fe, Ne-Te is very contractual and if you hurt Si-Fi then Ne-Te can get all contractual on your ass to protect the Si-Fi baby. I think once our judgement axis is seen as an equilibrium and that every decision needs to be 50/50 Fi & Te. Deffo huge gift giver, However I'm not money focused at all, focusing on money doesn't get on with my Ne-Fi as it doesn't really fit with my whole ethos/creed that I try to shove down everyone's throat. I also think you may be in contact with Ne preferring ESTJs. Just because auxiliary Fi is extremely focused on making sure that our outer egos remain within our ethical beliefs. And that's why we get solo upset and depraved when we are hurt or our trust is broken. Also we are extremely forgiving of character however we will take mental notes of all of the things that you do that hurt us, and eventually like a bottle of coke that will Burt's. One thing I dont agree with is I am extremely comfortable with change, I think ENFPs grow up with change and just see it as a part of life that you have to adapt to. Life isn't happening to you, you are happening to life. Why be sad about the rain, when it would rain whether you were here or not.

[@CSJoseph]

very well said. Great comment!

[@Pinkywinkykinky]

The thing with needing to remind enfps of what they have while still assuring them they're a good person is right for me when my dad (an enfj) has a talk with me, it can be a wake up call and when I'm reminded i'm good I want to follow through with it if my head isn't up my own but too much because I have struggled with selfishness like one time on my dads birthday I kept basically nagging to watch the movie I wanted and when I wasn't interested with his I quickly left and it felt out of character for me like I felt really bad about it because the other part of me wants to be really involved in my discord friend circle and listen to people to where it can feel really hard letting someone go

[@dvnnixo273]

As a 20yr old ENFP I can sincerely say that I have NO IDEA how to social engineer or manipulate anyone.. so why's that?

[@CSJoseph]

most of the time ENFPs are not aware they are even doing it. This is due to the high risk of Fi parent narcissism.

[@intpvamp]

my dad is ENFP and I agree with everything you said. he forced me to buy him $100 gift last christmas. fish

[@t.anderson6069]

My best friend is an ENFJ. She is an energetic, fun person, but a total freeloader. She loves to travel, but has a limited budget. In order to indulge in regular travel, she routinely stays with "friends" (a fair number she barely knows). She never reciprocates. I think she feels that her charming personality is "payment" for her free stay. Also, she used to be a housewares buyer for a major department store and companies would treat her to luxurious meals and trips so I think she somehow feels entitled to special treatment.

[@knaida9883]

When you talked about that depravity thing with ENFPs, before watching this, I thought that maybe my wariness and suspicion towards them was silly. Now, I understand where it comes from. Not to say all ENFPs are bad. I've met some great ones. However, there are days where it feels like they only want me around to feel good about themselves. Or maybe I'm just jaded since I used to be an extremely depraved ENFP asshole.

[@MyspaceEmo]

There's a contestant by the name of Christie on the new season of Big Brother who's the best example of a depraved ENFP that I've ever seen.

[@brycerenfeldt330]

I'd like to see this charity expressed more often! I often see the depravity sadly...although my Ni sees their potential which sets me up to get taken advantage of even more :( Also, I have found the ENFPs that I know often have to hit rock bottom in what you describe as their depravity before they are motivated to change. I think this stems from the Fi where they need to feel like changing before they do (whereas others need to recognize they should change) (ENFJ) Sadly, this reminding (guilt) tactic that you are talking about only applies if the giving isn't being done by you. Because they definitely feel the guilt, but if they sense you are "guilt tripping" them they get nasty quick.

[@CSJoseph]

Bryce Renfeldt yeah Fe critic does not like the guilt trip, but you can respond with that it’s not about guilt but about facts. The fact is that they have a lot to be grateful for and need to get over themselves.

[@brycerenfeldt330]

C.S. Joseph I appreciate that insightful tip there!

[@jtwright4095]

enfp here. very insightful... Not gonna argue much, cuz it seems pretty spot-on.. however, i'm a non-depraved enfp, due to spirituality, which started quite early in my life; so, by virtue of virtue(prob not), or of FEAR(at some times), I haven't jeapardized my soul's wellbeing/that of others'. However, i'm intelligent: i've definitely seen the pitfalls/traps of depravity(/sales🤣) i could've fallen into. That said: my idea is to regard our 'CHARITY' as a continuum: imagine you've been, or are, a very charitable human in this world. After a while, u may burn out. or become jaded. or seen people take advantage of you/the system & become disillusioned. At this point is where u may see them turn sour/'Bad' . Simple idea, from an enfp who is CHARITABLE by choice, mostly for spiritual reasons ie Karma etc; but also because things go well for me that way. If other enfps are like me, there will always be a Reason/Reasoning😄 for their lifestyle/choices. toodles😇

[@CSJoseph]

well said

[@Infranodyne]

Guilting an ENFP backfires when you overdo it. For me it intensifies my depravity. But I am actively resisting the Fe-critic in me. The only thing that pulls me out is excitement for a project or person combined with security.

[@fictcharactersfan]

Charitable and depraved this is how fi works . If fi has coved his needs then it can cover yours too, if fi understands that you abuse it or you underestimate its kindness, or you take it for granted, it will take everything back . Its just that fe doesn't care about its needs until its too late , so it keeps giving . Fi needs to be in a good emotional condition to give you something.!!

[@majavidova4311]

As an ENFP I would never! do drugs..I'm super moralistic about them...I guess all Enfps have high morals standards in regards of drugs..., relationships, abuse,violence etc...

[@coupvortex218]

ya my daughter is almost 2 now. it Is hard for an ENFP to have true purpose without a child I guess.

[@GVOESPEE]

Ig that's makes me an exception then. I've damn near done it'll (no hardcore shit, more so psychedelics). Other than drugs, I'm completely with you on that buddy.

[@majavidova4311]

I agree mostly on other things though ,but I can feel some hurt on your side in regards of Enfp...The truth is I keep watching your videos, because there's a lot of new insight on Mbti types...and I agree with most of it...I And btw I don't have a rich lawyer...haha...I think what you meant by that is that we always have a back up plan...because we are escapists

[@zimmer-s4l]

Actually, i can see why you as an ENTP see ENFPs as possibly most depraved. You said that ENFP-s treat others as they are treated by them, also you said said that Fi function is trickster for ENTP. based on this its easy to see the outcome: ENFP-s dont see Fi and moral system in ENTP and they expect anything(bad) from them. So as a result they turn of their fi moral system and do whatever they want to do. i can approve this as an ENFP from real life experience with ENTP-s,, they follow no rules and they can step on morals, especially when they are in trouble, so i treat them(any mbti type) as i expect from them, with no shame, but i wont do that with others, because of Fi, which you dont understand naturally.

[@zimmer-s4l]

pardon for my English

[@CSJoseph]

ENTPs get depraved too, its just not their primary vice.

[@JosephSmith-md6tp]

In the original Meyers Briggs ENFP is known as the Champion. If you take it on 16 personalities.com It's called "The Campaigner". On 16 personalities.com the INFJ is called the "Advocate". That's what has me confused...

[@dusterduster4]

We are all those things and so much more. Passion can give us great motivation. Doubled edge sword though. We get bored.

[@ImmortalGaming551]

Also I can sympathize with why you might have a bad rap about all ENFPs (coming from an ENFP). 99% of the ESTJs I’ve met in my life have been really annoying pricks to me, and I relate to how you have a negative outlook on the type because of your own personal experience. I try to give the benefit of the doubt when talking to ESTJs. To all the good ESTJs out there, thank you :) but anyway I hope you will get to meet more healthy and good ENFPs.

[@rjh7700]

My sister was very much in the depraved state during her teenage years, her being enfp, me being infj

[@annathomas2029]

I really feel your understanding of this type has been swayed in such a negative way. It makes me like sad to my core because like, firstly I am 100% ENFP, and I have literally no need for gifts or money at all, just enough to keep myself alive lol.... I don't think that I'm necessarily "charitable" per se.....but I value virtue more than you could imagine. I have a group of friends and I hate being in a position of power but when I see nobody stepping up, I do....and I've been told I'm a really good leader, mostly because I will do whatever I can to give people what they need even to my own detriment. I'll give of my time and energy until nothing is left in me to give and im like....near death.....lol......i have to remind myself to not take on too much because i know I will destroy myself. I know I have an ability to bring people in and sway them and that I often find people following what i say, but I find the idea of manipulating someones opinions or actions morally reprehensible and disgusting. For example I feel that leadership is fully and completely about serving people, and taking care of them. I see it as a sacred and deeply meaningful charge. I never seek power and in fact sometimes actively try to avoid being put in positions of power. I know I have an ability in an abstract way to influence people, but I prefer to kind of try to inspire people and give them reasons to want to build things with me, rather than manipulate people into my way of thinking, because if I truly think that's what leadership should be, I want other people to see the virtue and truth in that way of being. I don't want them to be brainwashed into doing something i want because that offends my need for authenticity of self, and my need for authenticity from others. That's definitely something all meyers briggs synopses I've seen list as one of the ENFPs characteristics is their need for truth and authenticity. I think if you don't see that as a core part of ENFPs you've seriously just experienced a very slanted sample of this type. My core principles are first and foremost to bring out the individuality of others, and see them shine who they are, and to understand and relate to them in the way that most respects the truth of who they are, and to serve them and try to make their lives better. I also know this about myself: I can't do anything in halves......I just suck at half-assing......I plow myself headfirst with heart soul, mind and body, into a project....I'll give my time, money, and all my energy until there's nothing left to give and often i collapse for a day, then pick myself up and start over cause the project is usually way too precious or important to me to let people down...... I have a ton of flaws and I will always be working on them I know that, so despite the above praise, I promise I know the many weaknesses I have. But I really truly hope you meet some better ENFPs soonish in your life because I truly believe that your opinion of them has been deeply skewed and tarnished, and it makes me deeply sad because despite all the idiosyncrasies of being me, and all my flaws, I really appreciate who I cannot help but be.

[@CSJoseph]

you sound like an ENFJ tbh.

[@japanesereadingandwriting]

Thanks Joseph!

[@rachel4060]

As an Entj, how do I get over their validation seeking tendencies so I can work harmoniously with them? I’m absolutely sick of an unhealthy one at work

[@foogentog]

ENFP male. Hate receiving gifts. Love getting compliments from people who I respect. Love physical touch, like hugs. Minimalist though. I don’t care about things.

[@Ibbiehart6645]

I hate hate hate receiving gifts. Opening up about yourself and believing me is my love language. But best of all is being touched, held hugged. Forget the gift. My son and I gave up Christmas presents years ago. We just get a bar of chocolate and a bag of crisps for each other and make a joke of it all. Gifts make me shudder.

[@boshtovar]

First time watching this video. I’m making a short film right now about a failed ENFP actor who finds out his gf is pregnant and mans up because of it kinda weird that you said that lol.

[@ashleyching7894]

Charity when pushes beliefs/philosophy Loves receiving gifts Charitable suddenly to selfishness Indian-giving Just cares about gravy train, what is comfy Forgets about activism Unaware of damage on other people Be careful of fine print / double standards NFJ looks at NFP with rose-colored glasses If feeling special, won’t be as depraved Guilt them into remembering how much they’ve been given and how special they are If not charitable, can devolve into hustler

[@vanina121]

So whats your personality type ? I'm kind of curious now lol. I'm an ENFP and this is true sometimes I think we can be too nice and exaggerated because some people dont deserve it. But we can go cold soon as well and some people dont understand we are intense

[@vanina121]

But this because we are hurt, and we can be a little capricious when we are hurt and not understood. I personality think you have huge problem with ENFP , you probably had alot of bad experiences with many negative ENFPS. And also people perceive as selfish but its because they can't understand An

[@CSJoseph]

I don't have problems with ENFPs. But have been on the receiving end of some ENFP depravity. Furthermore, I have seen depraved ENFPs turn around and change for the better. I am an ENTP.

[@zajaiva5]

As an ENFP I have realized I can be extremely even blindly loyal to a friend if I know that friend is the best person I can find to be friends with. Its like I need to know I got the best deal.

[@sandradibiaso7316]

ENFP Tom Cruise paid for his sister's college education with his first big check as an actor. He also bought her a car.

[@c.s.70]

Tom Cruise is ESFP, not ENFP.

[@WadWizard]

Interesting, i havent arrived at a 100% certain answer but im pretty sure im an enfp, maybe its cause im only 22 but im having trouble seeing this in myself, pehaps i just dont want to see it. I will definitely have to look out for it, i can see that some decisions i make are a bit selfish but im not sure where the line is. I can definitely see the social engineering aspect. ill have to keep a close eye on it as at the moment i see it as the way one teaches people effectively, people dont change just cause you tell them something, maybe temporarily in that situation, but people have to arrive at the conclusion themselves. Id allways seen it as just explaining things relatably and clearly so they can follow the logic to the conclusion themselves but i can see how it could go downhill fast... i have allways been kinda good, when it seemed important, at figuring out how to word things in letters and such so as to avoid sounding impersonal or annoyed or whatever other interpritation it could take. Its good someones covering this cause i havent heard this anywhere else, then again its only within the last two weeks that ive gone deeper into all this, before i just took the mbti and got infp and was kinda interested but didnt even get so far as the cognitive functions.

[@CSJoseph]

Thank you for at least trying. I invite you to watch the ENTP playlist as well just so you have something to compare to.

[@dusterduster4]

When I first learned about mbti I thought I was an infp. Did some digging and found I was a ENFP. Lucky you found out at your age. I am 59. Wish i knew then what I know now. Better late then never. lol

[@noraragaie9854]

My ex intj friend once suggested this enfp hating person videos I kinda realise now why She used to tell my i am an evil person and I just don't know it without referring to or finding any evil thing i actually did she was the only person till now who ever saw me this way btw I stopped being friends with her because she was literally destructive to my self esteem and confidence now i hate her more than ever =D

[@rh5340]

Your ex INTJ friend could be right... The ENFPs in my life are insanely lack of self awareness. All they've done is prioritising the comfort of the self over the emotions of others. They would never understand why they are called evil simply because they don't understand what the things they have done actually means to other people...

[@Goldforever-vp8zq]

Sometimes ENFPs can seem like ESFJs. I think the difference is that enfps don’t like being homemakers or barefoot and pregnant.

[@Nijigatsumi]

Hello Gold, what did you mean by barefoot and pregnant ? is it an expression ? thank you I think that when he talks about depravation on enfp is actually because of they would be operating as intj because of being hurt orbrunt out

[@ernestogamez9300]

Can you do videos about what the 8 functions fears ? For example if NE fears the future then what does TI fear?

[@CSJoseph]

Gaming Skateboarding it’s not that simple, but sure I’ll do a series on it

[@natashabaier6247]

:) I never thought about it before but we do ack this way :/

[@l.ferrer7923]

Why was there a Louis Vuitton purse 👜 ad on here... your audience demographic, Chase? 😂

[@nethercords]

depravity corrupts the best and attracts the worst. until an incorruptible infp comes along. what happens when an immovable object meets an unstoppable force...

[@honor9lite1337]

There is no such thing called as an immovable object. Every object depend on another object.

[@kristindawn]

Yikes! This is the type (I'm an INFJ) that I'm supposed to be most compatible with? I'm a bit scared after these videos... But I do think it's helpful to watch out for. Most of the ENFPs I know are pretty wonderful. My brother in law comes from a family that is (and will be) much better off than ours. He's not even finished with school, him and my sister are pretty newlywed still, and he already has all these plans for helping our parents with retirement. He really cares about our whole family. It's awesome. He's brilliant too. I just had a date with an ENFP. ☺ I feel like I can be completely myself with ENFPs. But I've seen a little of what you're talking about with some, and I'm grateful to learn about this, because I want to help empower them to live up to their great potential. I'm worried now about not seeing the depravity though, like you mentioned with the rose colored glasses. But I've developed a pretty darn good crap detector...

[@kristindawn]

On a side note, I would love your take on dating in regards to Jungian psychology. I've realized the dating advice out there is very SJ and control, vs movement (at least what I've read). I feel like whether it's a guy or girl it's probably best for the initiating type to ask someone out. And that movement types can move things along just a LITTLE faster.

[@CSJoseph]

Yes that is correct. INFJs can prevent ENFPs from going full depravity by not allowing the ENFP to be come absolutely selfish.

[@kristindawn]

C.S. Joseph Lol. That still doesn't make them sound very good... ☺ Anyways, did you see my other message in reply to myself above? It's a different topic. ☺

[@imfacejacked6046]

Don't worry too much this dudes a wack job

[@c.s.70]

INFJ here. Be careful. ENFPs like putting on a shiny "front" that the idealistic gullible INFJ will buy into. Also be suspicious of their DISPLAYS of so called "generosity" (string/agenda attached to reap from you or others later on or simply immediate narcissistic supply gratification) vs private deeds. That's part of their public image they like to maintain at all cost until their secure you (marriage, kids, etc.). Also they can be entitled, subjective, liars, resentful+envious, self-centered, use others while playing the victim role (even when they take advantage of others which they will deny) of how they are so good but wronged by others/society as a badge of honor they use to milk others & garner sympathy so they can play you. Again these are unhealthy usually narcissistic tendencies of ENFPs and there are many of them out there. Not all is as it appears sadly.

[@HadynTM]

I wish you wernt so againstenfps, id like to hear more of what the virtues are, you kinda focus on our depravity and then sprinkle in how charitable we are. Ik thats youre personal experince but i do feel like im not that negative of an enfp you seem to describe. Inb4 "whata enfp statement"

[@CSJoseph]

i am not here to make anyone feel better. I am here to speak the truth. Not every ENFP is as mature as you.

[@HadynTM]

@@CSJoseph C.S. Joseph thats fine.. I dig that. Its just very very obvious youre personal bias. Just like with intps its very obvious your personal bias. My beet friend is an intp, so i dont disagree but its not like every intp is a gold greek god and every enfp is a depraved car salesmen. I know you arnt saying this, and i do personally know a couple enfps that do almost mask themselves and becomee quite selfish in times of depravity. Even masking themselves from many things they just dont seem to want to accept in life and swindle themselves around those topics, even seemingly to the self. The only thing im getting at, is i enjoy hiw knowledgable you are on these subjects, and would just like to hear more from you on enfps that doesnt focus so heavily on your negative past experience. I understand that would be hard, and you are entirely welcom to make your videos in whatever way youd like. Thats just my look at what id like to hear from you. Other than that i do enjoy the vast connective info you have on these things, have a good one.

[@imfacejacked6046]

@@CSJoseph yes but why not make a video for the ones who are

[@EspritArkitekt]

Funny how ENFPs generosity is always a public affair. I too saw an ENFP pull out a bunch of change for a beggar. I wonder if they're so charitable when nobody's around to see it....reminds me of that philosophical thought "if a tree falls in a forest & No1 is around to hear it, does it make a noise?" Other people who believe this superficial façade are probably just as fake & too stupid to see through it. An ENFP gave me a job with 1 hand & took it away with the other just coz he claimed to feel "uncomfortable" after pursuing & starting a relationship with me then self-sabotaging it. Sàw this same behaviour with another ENFP friend & ENFPs online

[@CSJoseph]

Well said

[@EspritArkitekt]

@@CSJoseph thank u lol! i sent u a msg on ur FB profile. if u have some time to spare, i'd really appreciate a call with u....kinda going out of my mind trying to figure out what really happened between me & my ENFP & in the last few years i have tried to not write off people who broke my trust just like that, well, at least with people whom i considered really decent (until they fucked up), so i'm kinda dying in my suppressed anger to stop myself tongue lashing this ENFP all the way to hell....funnily enough i saw ur INTJ video in this series & u advised that LOL. but i still need to figure him out & understand whether or not his intentions were sinister from the start or if he's just...stupid when it comes to love & stumbling over his own feet

[@c.s.70]

Yeah, they are display narcs.

[@d.o.9072]

I am a. ENFP who made a metric ton of mistakes that always hurt the people I love most... I started seing myself a the worst person ever like a Demon, like a parasite , I always manipulate everyone I can, I don't even realize I am doing it, I am afraid of myself, hate myself. My wife is a INTJ and I think I love her to death but I can never be sure of any of my intentions. But then 2 seconds later I see myself as the best person ever, a ginius and gift to humanity (although I'm useless and stupid), I can never trust myself, I'm never sure of my intentions ( I know you all who read this will say I'm pathetic , maybe that's true, probably it is) I sleep from guilt to gift for humanity in a second. I am afraid to make a move cose I will probably end up hurting my wife and this is killing her... I'm not even sure what I'm trying to do with this message, I have been battling this demon for the bigger part of my life... So question, can anyone relate? Or can anyone give me any advice? ( Please abstain from comments like "grow up" althow informative, it would be nice to receive something more specific. P.S you see that's what I'm talking about...)

[@d.o.9072]

Sorry misspelled my wife is a ISTJ , and we don't really get each other but we love each other to death...

[@d.o.9072]

Oh and Thank you for the video Joseph, thank you for your content, it's amazing.

[@smallfishxx]

I’m really curious what the vice and virtue of the infp is..

[@CSJoseph]

Chloe Zheng it’s coming! Sadly it will be the final lecture of this series.

[@divinelove_susie]

Very insightful! Just discovered your videos, if you're meeting more depraved ENFPs you need better friends my dude! :( Also, I believe I am an ENFP (still exploring), but I feel like my depravity comes out in a weird, icky desire to punish people who i see as "doing wrong" morally or spreading some form of willful ignorance. And i know i know how to make them feel shitty and that concerns.. I dont really follow through on this desire option (couldnt tell you the last time I did) ,but I feel it there. Lol Also i haven't noticed my charity reflex until this video, but I am someone who sees a lot of ...abundance (?) ....and definitely have an interesting charity mode....sometimes its money, mentorship, or i see my work as giving, etc. I don't think other people are responsible for keeping me charitable though. If I choose to be depraved and selfish that's on me for CHOOSING to be shitty. The "punishment" reflex I was talking about earlier is definitely something I actively monitor because I know that isn't who I want to be. But if I put my power to monitor that in how much other people "give" me......then of course it is easy to become a depraved pos. Also they didn't get their act together until they got someone pregnant....... lol I would not trust them, the baby isn't cute for that long. And hhhmmmm....i just took on a sales side job........good awareness to have

[@chadmertz84]

Wow just caught my daughter spending $1250+ on my ISTJ son’s debit card over the last several months. Her punishment will be charitable acts. Thanks CSJ, these videos are literally life changing.

[@CSJoseph]

You are most welcome

[@Istpmom]

Wait this was in Italy 🇮🇹?

[@DanielRodriguez-cv3ow]

I am an enfp. I see through you. i am uncomfortable watching you create stories of your "past experiences"

[@CSJoseph]

i mean, that's how it is supposed to be. Watch season 12 for compatibility

[@imfacejacked6046]

I'm an ENFP and I agree this dude's a spiteful snowflake weenie.

[@andongfu8326]

Is you living in Spain a good idea?

[@CSJoseph]

why not? I like Spain.

[@andongfu8326]

@@CSJoseph no why not. I think your allergies are a lot better there.

[@qavah40]

Scott's Tots lol

[@fictcharactersfan]

Fi comes directly from the self , your own self needs to be satisfied in order to make others satisfied . It may looks selfish but this is how it works!!. Whereas fe comes from the others so if the others are satisfied then yourself is satisfied too. So you need to satisfy the others first 🥇. If someone says that fi is selfish then ti is selfish too because it thinks for its self and doesn't listen or trust the other people's rules to make judgements. All introverted judging functions are kinda selfish because they come directly from the self and they don't particularly listen to their surrounding !!.. Fi doesn't turn to it's surrounding to tell it how to feel (fe) Ti doesn't turn to it's surrounding to tell it how to think (te) Im an enfp by the way.

[@paigeheartly8936]

here I was thinking I’m a psychopath but no I’m just an NFP 😌

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

11:25 50/50 does no exist with my ENFP wife. She either wants 75/25 or 25/75- she’s soooo giving, but when she’s not, she is NOT. A life of extremes for sure. And I love that about her, but I certainly have to be careful

[@CSJoseph]

Look up “female solipsism”

[@majavidova4311]

Why are Si inferior afraid of trying something new? Because it's something I'd say about Ne inferior...Try to explain ,please

[@CSJoseph]

because they are afraid of the unfamiliar.

[@catycika4856]

You look so low at enfp's and, in one video of yours you sayd we got no talent, and whenever you talk about us, you roll your eyes.

[@CSJoseph]

Watch Season 22 ENFP then

[@Entyipo]

He says that about himself and every NP including INTPs, INFPs and ENTPs as well. Se is the "talent" function

[@joyarii5137]

Wow you're so sad man I am an enfp I am none of this negative things you're saying. Anything that's deprived its you. Get a decent office or room for your lecture. Instead of walking around in circles.

[@M.Moadeli123]

Much of what you say seem scripted. I'm an enfp and gift is my last love language. I find your material to be non applicable and clearly the rules you follow seem questionable. Not sure what system you go by but as an enfp I'm irritated by your cynicism towards us on a subjective level, and at best on an objective level I find alot of errors with your arrival point. Much of what you say about us is plain bs. Sorry not sorry. I understand this may come across as harsh to you but you need to stop painting all of us with the same brush. Sidenote, sorry you've had bad encounters but you're not seeing things with clarity and alot of your judgements seem derived from your own sample of enfp encounters. Broaden your perspective and be less personally involved. An objective eagle eyes detached approach paints a more accurate picture.

[@CSJoseph]

it helps if you watch the whole thing. Also, its not cynicism. And if it is, then I am cynical of everyone.

[@imfacejacked6046]

Yeah this dude a little beta male, tree hugging, soy boy, spiteful snowflake. He's probably pretty miserable and selfish himself lol.

[@xamidi]

I enjoyed the content, but please in the future keep the camera more steady to prevent us from getting dizzy.

[@t.anderson6069]

Typo: She is an ENFP.

[@musicaismylovica]

Hey, you seem to have been wounded a lot by ENFPs in your past, and I think that's kind of bleeding into your opinions of them in this video. Idk if this is supposed to be an opinion piece or what, but this video is hella biased. I came here from your 4 side's of the mind video on enfps. I'll have to think on depravity and charitability and see if I feel this fits, but I'm sorry you were hurt I really am.

[@CSJoseph]

No. I am wounded by everyone, but so is everyone

[@LosEmilios1]

You are so wrong man, sorry to say!

[@LosEmilios1]

I really hope no ENFPs are being sad about this because this is just one mans negative analasys! Oh damn I dont write any replies normally on KZbin but this time I had to make a difference! It just makes me sad that you are speaking so bad about a personality type that deserves a bit of optimism for all that we are doing to share optimism itself!

[@CSJoseph]

Care to share some facts or anecdotes as to why I am incorrect?

[@c.s.70]

Typical offended ENFP denial of truth (Ti blind).

[@maria_s3731]

Kanye West seems an ENFP to me(you typed him as ENTP but he seems ENFP to me) he is extremely charitable but at the same time selfish and self absorbed

[@thedestroyercreator]

But how can an Fi user be so immoral like that ? Don't they have a sense of morality ? If you said it about an Fi trickster it would have make sense But I don't get it with the enfp :)

[@CSJoseph]

They project and justify it to themselves and Feel it's right. That's why their critic is the key to stopping the depravity.

[@thedestroyercreator]

@@CSJoseph ow intresting , well said sir

[@sarahrichmond8184]

It seems like you're almost scared to dis them on here.

[@CSJoseph]

no I havent slept in days in this vid

[@sergeirachmaninoff8481]

Bro. It sounds like you're riding a horse at times. Make a lecture riding a horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@BnayaProgramming]

10:10

[@uberchap6934]

Did they also get helmets for the children or just the bicycles? Lol

[@honor9lite1337]

They get the helmet, and the sparepart too.