What It's Like To Own A 991.2 Porsche 911 GT3!!

[@PC-hr2rc]

Huge respect to Steven’s humility in caveating it could be driver ability while still providing valuable feedback. No car is perfect regardless of prestige!

[@EddieX]

Agreed! Steven is a good guy

[@jmathieud]

The dude is talking about cup 2 performing poorly on the street. Well no shit, that tire prolly didn’t even get to temp. Don’t trust dudes that wear shorts with 7” inseam.

[@markgtrheyes]

I own a 991.2 gt3 manual. Had an alignment and great on track. Better driver took me out and was stunned what it could do. Does need learning, but best car i have owned and will keep as long as i am able.

[@mattyp3119]

Absolutely, they are fantastic

[@SwiperTheFox-sz3sw]

Buyer’s remorse haha I’ve been there. I feel like Steven would like the 992 like everyone has mentioned but it’s also hard when owning something knowing it didn’t have all the options. I feel like he should get the 600LT but the GT3 991.2 manual is a modern classic in my opinion!

[@I999-g2s]

Anyone (this side of a racecar driver) who feels a GT3 is lacking in driving dynamics (turn-in, too much body roll etc) on the street, makes no sense to me.

[@_Suzuka_Joe]

my first thought is this guy has never gone to a trackday and wants to be the fastest canyon driver. Feeling like a McLaren can be pushed harder is just him getting closer to a lower limit.

[@drdreas]

@@_Suzuka_Joe Exactly

[@original2758]

It sounds so organic and emotional at gear changes... Luv a flat six! having an 02, 3.2 liter, 6 speed, 986 Porsche Boxster S with a Fabspeed exhaust, CAI, catless headers, IPD/Plenum, Numeric shifter etc... My aim is the sound of "Spec racing Boxsters" too raw/visceral. Luv it!

[@reset1101]

The noise that engine makes at high rpms is epic

[@EddieX]

Absolutely. From 7k rpm on it’s unreal

[@brianhimmelman420]

mod the car … Dundon headers and intake -35lbs and 40lbs torque mid range, Antigravity lithium battery -35lbs … BBS wheels -30lbs unsprung weight … lower 10mm, corner balance and negative camber … changes GT3 dramatically

[@andreabiguzzi5023]

991.2 gt3 is the best Gt3 ever made, much more beautiful and proportionate than 992 gt3 and the performance is very similar.

[@rubenmundaca945]

Great video Eddie you're a great presenter especially at the beginning for a moment it felt like I was watching an autoweek host or perhaps a car and driver video. It'd be great to get an update video to see later down the line to see if Steven still feels the same about the car maybe after a few mods or still doesn't like it.

[@jameswillard1]

Love this car! 991 Interior is more analog with lower dashboard height than 992, but 992 GT3’s double wishbone front suspension has ruined me ……steering is so much sharper with better feel and individual throttle bodies give the most crisp throttle response. I think your friend needs to try a 992 version as that car solves his complaints. Being a McLaren fanboy as well I actually understand what he’s talking about

[@rizahmed3660]

I have both a 600LT and 992 GT3, McLaren for the track 10/10 times over the gt3, but for canyons and backroads, the gt3 is more enjoyable (manual, regular seats).

[@markkenter8123]

Love the PDK..before I got my R8 in 2014 I almost bought the 2010 911 with PDK.. I had lost my ability to drive stick shift due to a neurological condition and the pdk restored my enthusiasm for cars . Problem was I love the R8 so I had to wait a few years for Audi to get their stuff together and put in a dual clutch transmission for 2014 albeit THe R8 DCT is not even close to the PDK. But hey I still have that R8

[@-Grifter]

I love the fact they were designed around the beetle. Classic stuff. My 997.2 C2S PDK looks even more like an old classic sports car and that’s what I love. No spoilers and not too race car like. Each to their own I guess. I would love a GT3 as well though 😊

[@AN-wp8bg]

Hey Eddie, to your comment at 17:30 , the button “sport” doesn’t change any other parameters than simply the rev matching. That’s why, now they changed the name from “sport” to “autoblip”.

[@charlie3658]

"I got tired of working for it." That sums it up. Mine is PDK and, for me, too scary to drive at 8 tenths on a public road. This is a violent, frantic, precision scalpel. With a manual - everything happening super-quickly in that last 3000 rpm - I can't imagine. Sure, there's the auto blip, other nannies, but still. In the 90s I tracked 8k miles in my modified 993 turbo and became somewhat comfortable with a few track techniques that I'd never use on a public road. Lift throttle, double apex was my nirvana. Old 911s, new 911s....I think the story stays the same. There are easier cars to drive quickly for the novice/intermediate. A great driver needs nothing more than a GT3. I'm not great.

[@tbtb196]

I believe the gt3 is better as a pdk.

[@shaneshow_]

Loved the debate, I'm with you Eddie, I'll message Steven in disappointment hahaha. I'll have to get him on the track with me too so we can change his mind!

[@EddieX]

Yes. Time to express our displeasure with Steven haha

[@smiffyLevel6]

Steven I think you need a PDK not a manual, that will allow you to get more out of the car?

[@MadMike991]

I think you need to try trail braking, it’s a rear engine car and has more weight is on the rear. It will understeer if you don’t manage the weight transfer. You are comparing it to a mid engine car.

[@bennydrivesGT]

Great review hope all is well, Eddie!

[@chriswashburn9430]

If you buy a .1 GT3 be fully prepared to have to replace the motor. If the 10 year warranty had expired, take it directly to Deman and get the 4.5L.

[@jeffwisener1378]

Some thoughts; 1. Yes, no doubt a high income, first world problem lol. 2. For most people, they would be so impressed with driving this caliper of vehicle that they would not notice the subtle drawbacks. This is exactly the type feedback Porsche needs to consider. The owner has driven numerous sports cars in this price point, knows the pros and cons with each. 3. Good for both of you, affluent to own own these type of vehicles. I am a retired teacher, owned a 350Z and C6 Corvette but never able to own a car in this price range. Long ago l made the decision to teach and along with it came financial limitations. I am not complaining, just stating the choices and ramifications of those decisions.

[@navyrotc2012]

Respectfully, if the car doesn’t give you the fiz then sell it so it gets to somebody who wants it. And continue your search.

[@racecrashrepeat]

never heard of gt3 body roll issues. I have a feeling this is weight balance of rear engine vs mid engine driver. I know porsches arent easy to throw around but this is a first of a bodyroll issue. The Maccas must be alot stiffer.

[@mg_streetkandi]

Yeah I would have to disagree.. it's most likely his driving style and confidence that is holding him back from exploring the car.. Truly the 991.2 GT3 is a good mix of modern style but having some old school feel with the Manual.

[@EddieX]

Fully agree with you! I love this car

[@porscherain]

It takes a skilled person to extract all the handling out of a rear engined car. Learn to drive it the way it wants and reap the benefits.

[@EAD_0]

Judging by his previous car choices,non of them are track focused like the GT3, so my guess is it’s not suited to his driving style.

[@ziggyfreud5357]

How many hours experience on the road and track have you had in the GT3 ?

[@smanders7]

Take it to the track and you will appreciate it 100x more.

[@iLLGT2]

Just typical 911 characteristics Easy fix with some better tires and suspension tweaks/can do rs springs also 992 is better stock for stock however will still give you the same characteristic and feel at the limit when really cooking , 911 inherently has that light front end feel Part of the 911 charm and it commands you to drive it entirely different than any other car which is rewarding to master I love my 991.2 but yea it’s a bit soft out of the box, on the other hand that’s what I also grew to love about it compared to my built RUF gt2 and 997 gt2 with crazy track setups suspension wise. You can drive it longer all day long and not feel worn out Also in sport you can still heel toe downshift and it overrides the auto rev match without issue or problem And as he mentioned the part throttle /on throttle no lift shifts to crazy pops with my straight pipe lol

[@brianhimmelman420]

base headlights at classic single not ugly double LED … if lighter weight carbon rotors and lighter carbon buckets the Xenon headlights are -17lbs lighter !!!! brilliant spec as not many “night” track days lol

[@murphsruz]

I own a 991.2 GT3 Clubsport, manual, carbon ceramics, in Miami Blue and it’s the absolute best drivers car ever! Road or track, nothing compares. Really don’t under the owners disappointment with it? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kcw9313]

it'd be perfect with the black pdls and full leather interior

[@yijunsun4431]

Hey Eddie, given you own a C8 Z06 may I know what would you prefer? I came from a 991.1 GT3 and am hesitating on the C8 z06 vs a 991.2 GT3 thanks!

[@plife911]

The 991 is understeery without the double wishbone needs some trail braking. I totally understands what Steve is saying

[@720sobsessed6]

That makes them feel boring to me on the streets. To make them really handle like it can on a backroad u almost feel like u have to drive at 10/10ths. Just driving spirited on the street a mclaren or a c8 or ferrari can do higher speeds on hairpins/nice turns and then are way faster in a straight line. If your just gonna track it anyways buy a gt3 cup car which would be sick. I love the cars they just aren't fun enough for how I personally would realistically use them(I'd love to drive one on track)

[@Therealtrump544]

I agree with Steven. I never found any enjoyment driving the GT cars on street. You had to get close to redline to feel anything. I was so disappointed. I drove it twice. Two different models (3 and 3 RS) a d absolutely hated both. Now with My 600LT spider i can't stop laughing on straight roads or back roads or the track. Such an epic machine. Makes this car feel like a Camry TRD.

[@720sobsessed6]

@avidas619 literally, the mclarens are just too much fun they ruin everything. My friend who has a gt3 visited and we drove our 720/speedster/c8 and I asked how he like the speedster and he said it was nice and I said how many times did u laugh in it compared to the other two and he said woah you're right not once.

[@shellcoder50]

the GT3 is a masterpiece

[@kevinscott2609]

What are the issues that the 3.8 had?

[@gillesrigaux2193]

Engine breaks on some cars

[@albundy5992]

Love this car. Probably more than the RS version.

[@EddieX]

For the street I’d definitely take a GT3 manual over an RS!

[@GJCcontent]

Hence, the new 992 double wishbone for front-end confidence :)

[@davemurphy63C10]

so, how much does he want for it??

[@EAD_0]

Absolute dream spec.

[@EddieX]

Miami blue is one of the best standard colors 😍

[@BIueDreamm]

Gonna be mine one day.

[@Dayystra]

Maybe he needs to take it out for a track day and learn its limits for some more fun on the streets

[@MrSchn3ll]

There is exactly 0% chance he is driving this car on the street anywhere near 10/10th. Sell the car to someone else and go back to McLaren so real Porsche enthusiasts can own one.

[@takkubell]

Very much appreciated The owner echoes my sentiments. I drove my cousins 991.2 on track. It was one of the most uncomfortable experiences I had. I couldn’t afford buying him his car if I went through the tire wall & in the bends this thing had no feeling & when I tried to do this corner shit by right foot it stepped out. I pitted after 2 laps. 3 years later he got a 600lt. That thing felt like a dream. It had the steering feel in to corner entries & had such balance in mid corner & if you can keep the engine 3.5-4k rpm you teleport from turn to turn. Eddie & my cousin said the same thing there is a different way to drive the gt3 but f it. Who cares about that when maclaren just sends you into another realm. 😂😂 (I’m coping)

[@vagabond1776]

Stephen will do better with a GT4 RS or GT3 RS and the stiffer suspension….or a Vette.😝 Love how Eddie is making Stephen kungfu grip that door handle.😂

[@famousmidnight]

Bro thought he was buying a gt3 rs. But most of the issues he's referencing can be helped

[@Rodstarm]

The McLaren will always feel with less body roll due to a lot of factors as you know the mid engine experience is a lot different than the 911s. The 911 will keep you in check as you said on your own words. “I have to focus” give it a track spec suspension set up and it will wake up the handling. They are not the best out of the box. Great content

[@chriswashburn9430]

It’s a slow in power out car. Driving a 911 at its limits is not something you can figure out on the street. You need to get to a track day.

[@LinhNguyen-nq5di]

That's a great plate! ;)

[@head911]

Who buys a McLaren over a GT3? :) The rawness and the sound!! Nothing compares!!

[@drdreas]

9/10ths on the street? 🤨 When folks talk about 9/10ths on the street I get skeptical that they have enough experience to know what 9/10ths actually is. I track my 991.2 GT3 in advanced group TDs and I can tell you there is ZERO chance I have ever gotten close to 9/10ths with my GT3 on street. I'm not sure I can even adequately warm my Cup 2's on street like I can on track. Maybe I'm wrong and this driver is talented enough (and ballsy enough) to get this car and his McLaren to 9/10ths on street... but I would put my money that he is just comparing the subjective "feel" of this car vs the McLaren at maybe 6/10ths or so.

[@ARentz07]

I honestly couldn't care less about the headlights. lol

[@integrafreak1]

Steven is on drugs, Give him a Cybertruck

[@EddieX]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@KoryoJK]

Sounds like the 570 spoiled you. Admittedly there several are more fun and sharper cars than porsche (I’ve owned four Porsches). GT4RS might change your mind.

[@Audioss_s4]

Considering a c8 z06 or a 991.2 gt3… thoughts?

[@dmitrywall595]

I know Steve haha he went to psu

[@s4awd2]

As a bought when new, 2011 GT3RS owner, mine was a weekend car, then a monthly car, then yearly and now decade only car :(

[@jonaohana3376]

I’ll sum it up , it handles well but press the accelerator lots of noise and goes nowhere , it’s a great track car though

[@Nick0777]

Gt3 or c8 z06?

[@CGF101]

Put some new coilovers on and problem solved

[@jake5655]

Wait hol up. i just saw this at 4til4 a couple days ago hahaha

[@gonzalesg0221]

Driving 10/10th on public roads🤔

[@EddieX]

Not quite

[@gonzalesg0221]

@EddieX Just going off your buddies statement of his driving of the GT3 and critique. The driving in your vid was all good👍

[@jibrilrichards7056]

I think Steve just wanted make some clickbait.

[@De132an]

You guys are whats wrong with Porsche ownership. Some of your comments give us all a bad name.

[@AllIsWell_22]

Homeboy needs a ZL1/1LE (Manual)😊

[@JacesOwnWorld]

Power power power. This is something the GT3 lacks in regards to other cars in its price range. Not everyone wants to rev an engine fully out just to extrapolate its potential. Some of us like to feel being pushed back in our seats at 3k rpm's. Not everyone wants to feel the excitement of a car only when hauling ass around a track. Some of us want to feel the potential of a car in daily traffic. The GT3 is great on track days and canyon runs. But other than that, its pretty uninspiring, hence why I feel like for the price, its just not a great car. The 911 Turbo S would be a much more exciting car for me. But even at that, 911's, as good as they are, don't give off that "WOW" factor that actual exotics give off. That's what he is missing...

[@andycjin4955]

this comment is wrong on so many points.

[@Rushwind100]

Everyone that keeps saying Steven should move fwd to a 992, have missed the point here. Based on Steven’s comments, simply said, for twisty backroads you really should move BACK to a 997.2 GT3. You would be SHOCKED at how good the hydraulic steering is, and how much the suspension {inferior compared to how GOOD the new ones are}, BUT how engaging the drive is. It makes you WORK harder, thus more satisfying. The new GT3’s are soooo damn good that it takes less effort to go too fast & now you don’t feel like you’re coming close to the limits. Please try a 997.2 GT3 & do another video comparison!!

[@Rushwind100]

Plus I’ll add that at 7:22 in this video, Steven says that this 991.2 is “great car at about 9/10’s, buuut” … which kinda implies that you need to hit 10/10’s in order for the car to be at its best. Exactly my point here.

[@mattyp3119]

... I have so many things to say, none are positive. Look, here's what happened: you bought a porsche gt3 thinking it would make you faster, better, quicker whatever and as most bad drivers say " this car is great at 9/10ths but not 10/10", i guarantee its not even being taken to 6/10ths.

[@Emadavid]

I love the gt3 but it is slow. After getting in a McLaren... There is no way I can enjoy this car. It feels like a fast sport car at best

[@DisisSnake]

BUY THE 458!!!

[@EddieX]

👀👀👀 over a 600LT?

[@dnice362]

Also McLaren has the best steering

That’s the problem with Porsche - people glaze these cars SO HARD, that once you finally get in it and drive it you go wow, this thing is soooo BORING. Not that fast, not very loud, just not worth 200k.

[@dnice362]

Should definitely get rid of this and get the 600lt and or the 458 and get rid of the gt3

[@basketball798]

GT3 is not as good as people say, feels as fast as a camry in regular driving unless you rev the crap out of it. Also on the track the consumables are way too much and not to mention the terrible drone and stiff ride on the street. Please don't tell me that BS of "it's a track car for street" NO ANY REAL TRACK CAR WILL RUN LAPS AROUND THIS STREET CAR. OVERALL 6/10 IF YOU ACTUALLY OWN AND PLAN ON DRIVING IT REGULARLY

[@johnnyboy1586]

Maclarens are probably the best drivers car on the planet followed closely by alpine A110

[@ericc947]

Definitely should have got a 458 instead

[@dnice362]

McLaren are better I agree with him and personally I think the gt3s are overrated

[@-Grifter]

McLaren is a great British brand. I prefer 911s though. Much more usable

[@johnwhodat8135]

​@@-Grifter..you also make more trips to the repair shop in McLaren then gt3

[@dnice362]

It’s just slow

[@johnnyboy1586]

480hp car slow!

[@-Grifter]

Slow?

[@Therealtrump544]

Steven the 600LT will run circle around this thing. Don't even think twice about it. Get a 600 and don't look back

[@Therealtrump544]

Thank God someone doesn't drink the GT3 Kool aid. Out of all the supercars i have driven the GT3 and the GT3 RS are the most boring. They look boring. They drive boring. They are overpriced by about 150k. They are too perfect. They don't evoke any emotions. Are they good track car? Sure. But anything outside of track driving they are very boring. They are very low on power. There is no fun below 5000 rpm. They don't look like a supercar. Any McLaren or Ferrari or Lambo is lot more fun, characterful than this beetle.