What Koreans Think of School Bullying (Kpop Idols, Celebrities)

[@aditimajhi1420]

Honestly, this is just messed up. In my opinion the real problem lies within the schools. Like how toxic of a school environment is it that you can't report that level of bullying? As someone who has been bullied, I informed my teachers about it and it was taken care of. I didn't even have to involve my parents.

[@tears2392]

You know that's bullying is not a major problem in India because the schools extra careful about it hence the school always gets a good place in our memories

[@aditimajhi1420]

@@tears2392 exactly!!! School's must have an environment in which a student feels safe and comforarable in!!

[@햄찌-e2g]

Well most of the times the bullies come from well off families and their parents have a big presence at the school while the people who are bullied aren’t that lucky. The bullies tend to pick on kids who won’t be able to speak up against them

[@romaosabandar8039]

I think it goes even farther then schools. It sometimes might be over dramatized in series, but it happens everywhere. In the workplace, home and in public. But the moment it gets accepted by society, is when this really becomes an issue. Not exclusive to (most) Asia countries, but being rich/well of or from a family with a good reputation gives them often more room for....making "mistakes". F.E. how long took it for the son of the Samsung group to be actually convicted when the evidence is that clear?

[@tapioca88]

Well I was also bullied and told 2 teachers about it and they didn't do anything about it so it depends.

[@zashleyluver1]

Makes me think about Kdramas like Boys Over Flowers and The Heirs where the main characters are bullies but romanticised

[@varapornkrut]

The manga was 20+ ago , wolrd has changed, in my country they will remake f4 and ppl against it, because we fight against bullying for many years but they still want to promote "Bullies are cool kids" again!

[@RockingMarshall]

or Itaewon class, but I think it's a cultural thing to bend knees to truly serious repent.

[@kanariaa2422]

@@samudata True, but Koreans saw it & thought "Wow! that's romantic! let's make our version of it"

[@heartforall5853]

That's why i never liked lee min ho. Never understood what is so nice about those characters.

[@halasili91]

Ya I didn't like either of those dramas because of the message it sent out.

[@shelina_]

It's a sad issue that even one of the girls said that bullying exist as a part of Korean culture.

[@samedi7610]

But I think it's problematic to say bullying is part of Korean culture. Bullying is in every country and every country's problem.

[@shelina_]

@@samedi7610 and Alexa -I do get your point. I was just reiterating what the girl said. I just think that bullying in Korea has been continuously happening that some of them, especially the teachers, have little control over the students.

[@oyinolubayo7079]

Bullying is in every culture/culture it’s just more violent in Korea, but to say bulling is Korean culture seems like they r the only ones that do it.

[@nori81t41]

@@alexa6938 Yes, it's in every culture, but the focus is Korea because a lot of celebrities have been in the news for alleged bullying.

[@samedi7610]

@@shelina_ I know that it's not your opinion, it's a quote from someone else. I want to say that the expression 'part of culture' is wrong whoever says. :)

[@everad4395]

Bullying is not only bullies' responsibility, schoolteachers and parents should take more responsibility, that's why it's stupid to punish only these celebrity bullies, nothing changes that way, there are plenty of non celebrity bullies, and peer pressure turn decent kids into bullies very often. Maybe smbd should gather some of these celebrity bullies and create a serious antibullying campaign, involving teachers and parents. That can actually make a change.

[@addiezavala1557]

Great post.

[@romaosabandar8039]

Fully agree! The one that really struck me is that the people in the video almost found the bullying "normal". The moment it's normalized people lose the feeling of accountability and responsibility. It's an issue ingrained I think in Korean culture. It happens in school but also home and even work.

[@cassiescotland6754]

So agree, as if we don't address the roots of the problem it just continues and unfortunately some celebrities become the target to get justice or to be heard. However, like you point out- what about the non-celebrities, the ones who go untarnished leaving their victims scarred. The responsibility is everyones, especially parents, school's system, students and society at large. It is so sad to hear people say ' part of Korean culture' making it more acceptable or brushed over. I always think when a scab of a wound starts to bleed again it needs more treatment to heal properly and that's the current crying out right now.

[@romaosabandar8039]

@@cassiescotland6754 totally agree with you! When I was saying "ingrained in Korean Culture" it was not meant as an excuse but more the reason why. I honestly it's something that the Korean society as a whole should realize and face. People might disagree on this, but IMHO it has a lot of similarities to (subtle) forms of racism. I'm Indonesian living in the Netherlands and f.e. whenever I'm late I get the comment: You can't help it it's in your blood/Must because you are Indonesian. It's meant jokingly but it still creates a certain image about a culture based on nothing. Same with bullying in Korea, it's became so widely "accepted" people might brush it off and say stuff like: He didn't mean it like that It was only a joke Grow a pair

[@diamonddelapena4995]

Hurt people hurt people. Parents hurt their children, children hurt other children and the cycle goes on (without anyone interfering, because they're fine as long as they're not involved) when they're adults. But who do we blame? Parents were also hurt by their parents. It continues because our society doesn't learn how to forgive everyone and themselves. Not only the bullies or victims, but everyone of us should stop the cycle.

[@christinea.a.a]

This!

[@namjoonie936]

just be nice to eachother

[@avelpeoch1609]

it's a little restrictive,first all children who was mistreated ,don't become bad parents, and aggressors,can just be children whom parents don't teach limits. Along time ago,i was teacher,and i can tell you that adults can guess that some children come from dysfunctional families,so school has a responsability too

[@cassiescotland6754]

Amen!!

[@Seoyeaji921]

Just be nice to each other

[@debbiewan1733]

I think part of the problem is that people refuse to talk about this issue unless it has some famous person involved. Imagine all the common people who had to go through such a traumatizing thing as bullying and had nobody to talk to coz nobody wants to talk about it😭 it's so sad.

[@aadhirasantosh9102]

Its really sad how common and normalized bullying has become in some countries. I'm just really really glad there is little to no bullying in any of the schools I've been in(I'm from india), except for verbal shit like fatphobic comments

[@bhuvana9464]

me too, i am from india , i also never saw bullying near me but i heard about a little ragging in colleges.....i never heard of such bullying cases in my schools though i changed 3 schools

[@killuazoldyckhunter]

@@bhuvana9464 true, even I used to hear a lot of ragging incidents growing up, but during my college years, ragging was unheard off, at least in Mumbai. There's like strict laws for that now, I feel it's becoming better in colleges too overall.

[@bhuvana9464]

@@killuazoldyckhunter even here in hyderabad its the same ....idk about laws but even if a student gets into a small fight parents will come and fight with the principal

[@blairwrelos1891]

Ikr, I grew up in kolkata and when I talk to some of international friends, they think that I had the ideal kid like school life. The fact that we were treated like dear kids till our graduation even blows their minds and when I say that I even cried and her hugged my female teachers during our farewell is just absolutely unimaginable for them. That's when I realised I had an amazing school life and I graduated school last year in the sense my boards was early last year.

[@bhuvana9464]

@@blairwrelos1891 we are treated like dear kids till our marriage...we dont even do parttime jobs only depend on parents

[@yesiambensfanyeehaw2107]

I personally don’t understand why bullying exists to begin with. No one deserves to be bullied. and she is right students should be educated ... anyways, It’s already been a new year and in my town all we been hearing were suicides happening here in less than 3 months... because of bullying.. 😕

[@7toheavan4ever54]

This is so sad😔 I really wish this would stop ..... Immediately

[@bzey1881]

because they are jealous of you or inertimeted by you i had a lot of friends i left they did not las tafter 3 mounths none of them were friends any more don;t speak to each other

[@wuwuwu1757]

I personally don’t understand why bullying exists to begin with. => Bullying exists in any animal community. Rather, a community without bullying is ideal and unrealistic.

[@danieldossantoscardoso8727]

We live in a hierarchy society which in order to survive , people need to fight each other, that's why bullying exists.

[@cassiescotland6754]

1) We are not animals like - we have conscience and language to debate and instinctively know what is right from wrong and teach that. 2) We are taught to compete with each other 'to survive' - what's that about. I personally believe there is enough for all of us whatever it is. Humans just choose to be greedy, combative and develop a continuous survival coping mechanisms believing if we take the other person out, hate on them, negate their existence it will be better - it just creates imbalance. Garbage in garbage out!!

[@RenaG]

I think that because of the hierarchy culture, bullying in korea has deeper mental repercussions which carry throughout the victims adult lives and this is why its such a big deal

[@jenjen157]

I know this is quite random but your statement "Deeper mental repercussions" made me think of something. Yesterday I watched a podcast from Dive studios called "Get Real" with (Big Mathew from Kard, BTOB Peniel, Ashley Choi with their guest Joan Kim?) they discuss what it is like to get Mental Health/HELP in Korea. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHyziGB5Zqx_l6s

[@Antbeast23]

So dumb why do u need to be higher than someone else through bullying someone. That's petty. Who cares about stuff like that. Hawaii we don't have that shit. Of course everyone wants to be successful but its not like oh he has a good job I need to bully him. It's about working hard and getting your goals. Too much jealousy

[@avelpeoch1609]

i think that korean society must question itself, adults should not look away,when violence come on school. If celebrities are punished,school direction must be too.I can't admit that they can keep their place .As a mother,i do not understand how the families of the abusers brought up their children to have this kind of behaviors . Adults have to hear the children's words ,and parents must convey respect for others regardless of differences

[@avelpeoch1609]

@@someoneandsomeone8462 i don't agree ,i think adults have to take their responsabilities,and it begins in the family itself

[@espressoq5696]

Imagine the victims of school bullying live their lives in pain and traumatized, trying their best to leave that miserable memories behind, however the bully became a star, played a pure, innocent role on TV and slowly dive into commercial advertises, showing themselves every aspects of daily lives, it's like a repeat hit, bring the victims to their old painful days...

[@nori81t41]

I see it so much in these Korean dramas, and the bullying is so extreme. Is it art Imitating life? I f they're bullying like that, there's something going on at home, or the parents are bullies themselves.

[@monkivision1235]

And what about the ones who stand silent when someboby is bullied? Is easy to jugde others but bystanders are as guilty as perpetrators when that happened. We have a problem as society , judging but doing nothing and feeling ok with ourselves. Sorry for my poor english.

[@little_ms_anne1021]

I totally agree with you. No problem stays or proliferate when there are people who will interfere and be active in stopping something they know is bad. You can put blame on a bully but you also don’t know what that person has gone through to become one. More often, the people who readily put blame on people are the same people who would not do anything when they see bullying and would probably be the first one to turn a blind eye. It’s easy to say to punish who has made a mistake but sadly only a few people would probably take action from the same people who say this.

[@aktivmusic5517]

yea they're bad but definitely not as bad as the bully, imo there are different types of silent bystanders, those who are afraid (keep in mind that the context is school bullying and we're talking about students here, im also talking as a student) and those who straight up didnt care

[@monkivision1235]

@@aktivmusic5517 Agreed, almost imposible for kids or teens when the strengh of the group is so heavy. I get your point. If we talk aboud kids is even more painful. Regards from Spain, i really like your content.

[@aktivmusic5517]

@@monkivision1235 aye thanks 😭 indonesian here‼️

[@kanariaa2422]

I know that bullying is a huge issue in Korea but I know that schools barely do anything about it as well. It's the school's responsibility to protect their students. I hope this movement in Korea is not only focused on those idols & exposing them but to also find a way to figure out what's wrong with the system & how to fix it as soon as possible.

[@jjthek]

Man barely missed it. Im glad to see another street interviews. I enjoy these types of interviews a lot!!

[@Natalia-bm3uo]

It’s sad how celebrities who are involved in a false bullying accusation have to take the damage, while the accuser gets to run free with out a penalty.

[@browniezskz0325]

yes agree. I don't support bully or anything. but this is true. sometimes people just threw their hate to the celebrities.

[@cameo403]

"A true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members"

[@denise5879]

I was bullied. But to be honest bullies don't grow up in the best circumstances and search for a victim that's probably "seemingly" not as strong to push their own ego. They are actually pretty insecure and poor people, of poor background. If they did it in their youth it doesn't make it okay, but people change. If they repent and maybe help with nationwide anti-bullying campaigns to display their change of mind. They should be allowed to be active in the industry again. But the severity of Jisoo's case totally shook me. That's unbelievable.

[@95theHappy]

It’s inexcusable what they did to the victims. But I don’t want to live in a world where there is no forgiveness. If the victim shows forgiveness the society should too. Of course it still depends on the severity of mental or physical violence they applied.

[@Seoyeaji921]

But there is consequences and karma isn't it?

[@stillfangirlingtoday1468]

As a fellow victim myself, I still only hold close to heart bullying cases that were done when these celebrities were already adults... Bullying during school years should not be seen as the reflection of what those people are today, because their parents are much more to blame for their bad parenting than the kids themselves. After all, they are kids, even if unruly ones. For actor Ji Soo though, I hope police will investigate this case, because there is mention of sexual assault and this is not the sort of behavior even a bad kid would do. If it is true, I hope he loses more than his male lead role, I hope he goes to jail.

[@bhuvana9464]

It is confirmed to be false accusation they only agreed for bullying

[@stillfangirlingtoday1468]

@@bhuvana9464 Can you please link your source? I have yet to see any news saying it wasn't true. I only saw his handwritten letter confirming and apologizing for the school bullying.

[@bhuvana9464]

@@stillfangirlingtoday1468 check his agencies twiter they replied 1 week later than jisoo insta apology

[@atheesha497]

@stillfangirlingtoday the sexual assault part was denied by the agency it was not proven wrong, the investigation is ongoing

[@bhuvana9464]

@@atheesha497 well I am believing the agency because victim said she has video proof which was not reavealed after deniel. And agencies donot deny serious accusation very easily when there is proof unti and unless it is false.....and sexual sault accusation came out after jisoo apology

[@rizkyramadhanhasibuan6454]

one of factor why the bullying so rampant in korea is that the teacher there dont have any power to intervene at all too afraid to do anything that get them sued by bullies parents

[@rey114_]

I got some bullied me as well when I'm in junior and high school just because I'm so shy and act like bookworm, some call me fags because I'm not popular. Bullying is so bad, please no more bullies

[@DefineMorena]

That's sad 😔 I hope you're doing better...

[@rey114_]

@@DefineMorena thank you

[@lifewithluci1764]

I think the main problem is the system. The teachers should take hand on this, not just by punishing bullying so they can understand their actions have consequences. But counseling as well, because bullying isn't always about kids misbehaving, it can be a sign of violence within the student's house, it could be anger issues, it could be a mental disorder, or directly just an attention call from the student. Then the topic enters again: acknowledging mental health and its importance, as well as checking students to be able to spot possible victims and possible perpetrators at time.

[@deedesno8121]

Not dealing with the person mis-behaving or the person who was hurt. Sad to allow it not to be dealt with on all sides , even the adult that addresses it learns something.

[@sailorfan86]

This was B.S. The problem lies in the Korean society. It is normal for them to be judgmental thus getting in their feelings regarding someone triggering them for whatever reason. The hierarchy of age contributes greatly. First impressions in Korea is very important so if someone has a bad impression of you then y'all know what happens rumors + bullying. Social status. Someones demeanor. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were bullies or at least bystanders. Just like so many of us in school. It's not just the teachers, it's a whole system that's put in place. Everybody is in on it.

[@Nessainthebuilding]

I saw one of my bullies at a grocery store recently and I had a panic attack. I seriously can't imagine seeing them day in and day out everywhere

[@SuncloudMashups]

i feel like we need a larger vocabulary to discuss bullying - grouping a huge range of activities together under one word can be damaging. Or, at least, we should acknowledge that there is a huge grey area between, one on end of the spectrum, eg, teasing someone for a day vs. physically and verbally harassing them for years on end on the other. I think almost everyone has been both victim and perpetrator of some degree of bullying so it's important to get the specific details. Also, I'm thinking when the victim of ANY level of bullying is suddenly forced to see their bully on TV shows, commercials, etc. it could have an amplifying effect so the wound leftover from the bullying starts hurting more/again. Either way, I think in the case of these idols, if they did in fact cause an emotional wound in someone that isn't healing on it's own, they could maybe go to counseling with the victim to work through everything together. That kind of stuff really works. I think that would be more satisfying for everyone than a monetary settlement and all of these idols are taking a break from activities anyway.

[@ebt4243]

There is bullying in the schools in the US. Not as bad as Korea, most of it is verbal abuse, not physical. Usually behind the teachers back, but even when teachers know about it, they don't know how to stop it. I was bullied for 1/2 a year in high school. Now I can't stand it if anyone teases me, I try not to be so sensitive about it, when I know someone is just joking, but I always end up with my feelings hurt. As far my bullies, I hope they realize what they did was wrong and they don't treat other people like that anymore, but I want nothing to do with them. Not even an apology. An apology is not going to change anything that happened in the past. But it would definitely upset me to see them as a celebrity living their life, with all these people thinking they are wonderful. So I can understand the need for people to expose bullies. I hope that things get better in Korean schools, that there is less bullying. But it has to start at home with the parents, because that's who kids learn how to behave from.

[@shinichikudoz]

bullying pretty much everywhere...so they not only tied with public figure...i remember those korean kids throw some acid and stuffs to the victim...but idk what their punishment tho since kinda lose track about that case....

[@tata9177]

It is really surprising. Our country does not have those school bullying. 😔👀

[@nathanelidraper2428]

I wonder what people think the punishment should be for people who get caught lying and fabricating things like this. A lot of the time when it’s found out lies were told, the damage to the accused is already done and irreversible in the eyes of the public even with proof that lies were told...

[@harbhajansinghania]

There's a saying " what goes around comes around" . No matter how much you have changed , but your past mistakes will one day comes and will haunt you

[@taetae995]

Bullying is horrible!!! Stop it and apologize!!!

[@Antbeast23]

Greed and being spoiled having to be better than others is what bullies want. No accountability from teachers and competition and stress makes it hard as well.

[@Krypton853]

Most bullies comes from rich families. So therefore whenever a victim decided to stand up for herself/himself. The bully or bullies hardly ever face any consequences cause their mom and dad bails them out by paying whoever can let it slide and they continue to do their rampage as they grew up.

[@adelehudson1064]

Please don’t make this out to only be a Korean issue, it happens around the world. Children can be very cruel to each other and unfortunately some take it to the nature of true bullying. I don’t think we should blanket every case the same. Wrong choices of a school child doesn’t always define the person they go on to be.

[@winniethepooh8353]

Of course bullying is world wide, but bullying in korea is so severe. I mean it's such a small country yet so many stars are accused of bullying and a lot have actually been proven right.

[@SliverOfSilverStars]

I think bullying is complex. It shouldn't be but it is. Firstly, what is defined as bullying? Obviously physical violence and emotional abuse and manipulation, but I think there are some cases where there are misunderstandings and small incidents or disagreements between kids that were hurtful and never resolved and I think some people improperly categorize that as bullying. Misunderstandings and disagreements are normal parts of human existence, and while they may be hurtful, they are not an example of malicious bullying. Secondly, we have to ask why bullying happens. It's usually a mixture of things like the bully has a rough home life, has experienced trauma from trusted adults in their life, peer pressure, societal pressure, personal insecurities and feelings of inadequacy. So then those are the issues that need to be tackled, because hurt people continue to hurt people and that cycle needs to be broken. I think seeking help through therapy and empowering people to get mental health services is an important tool in combating bullying. Parents need to seek help with their own trauma from family and society so that they minimize the generational trauma they pass down. Plus, parents and teachers need to be held accountable, because, while kids should be accountable, it's the job of teachers and parents to hold that accountability, teach them how and why what they did is wrong, and then redirect them on a better path. When bullying happens, ideally, there should be interventions with people who specialize in child behavior, crises, and mental health. Provide the victim with support and safety and proper coping methods. But also to teach bullies to think more critically about why and how they are behaving (what makes them feel like they want to be hurtful) and then work on that root issue. And kids need to learn to respect boundaries that other kids set when they say they are hurt or uncomfortable, but it's hard to learn that when it is not modeled. I suppose this is a pretty idealistic way of viewing the issue, especially since it seems that no country has figured out how to perfectly deal with bullying, but idk, we have to start somewhere and better access to mental health services and de-stigmatizing those services seems like a good place to start. As a side note, what about adult on child bullying? Like yes some of these idols probably partook in bullying, but what about the dark spots of the global entertainment industry? Some of these idols have probably experienced bullying at the hands of adults and staff within their companies: horrible and repetitive comments about their appearances, encouraging body image issues through dangerous dieting methods, physical violence to children, sometimes even sexual exploitation. And kids are just supposed to deal with it all so they can debut. I'm pretty sure that stuff can be similarly categorized as extreme bullying and more energy should be focused on that as well. Edit: Idk why I'm writing like a full on essay on bullying in the youtube comments, yet here I am

[@larashlomi8582]

*I´m so happy we don´t have that much bullying in my country. (From middle east lol).* *we have a little but the victime they doesn´t care because they´re strong.* *But the arab student most of them they don´t fear anyone Whether it is a teacher or headmaster of the school۔*

[@xyz-hs9ix]

Yeah I'm also from middle east and bullying is pretty much nonexistent. People might talk behind your back but that's as far as it goes. or you could get into fights with people but most of the time it's mutual. It's never systematical bullying

[@yuukitsuki6493]

What if one of the people interviewed was actually a bully, and pretending to be innocent 👀 that would damn hurt for the bullied 👀👀

[@-nrp]

Bullies will always will be bullies. Even it is celebrity no excuses.

[@evecalces4996]

This is kinda Asian Boss vibe

[@msspears8915]

It has to start somewhere. In the school system and with the teachers. This should not be tolerated in any country.

[@janedarcy5018]

Seriously all the bullying scenes in KDrama r not exaggerate at all, i read it somewhere its even worse irl, i feel sad for the victim really

[@unknownfan2615]

If bullying in kdramas really exists in S.K yow that's really scary.. we rarely got that kind of bullying i mean not rarely but we didn't experience it yet in our school...

[@bzey1881]

if they were not famous no one care i was bullied for 15 years but no one was bothered. that is just life get a grip just get on with your life people don't care unless you are famous

[@BRiGHT-CHilD]

The question for me is how are these students even finding time to bully other kids in a school system where you have to dedicate every waking hour of your academic life to studying? Where are y'all finding the time to ruin lives on top of trying to maintain your own?!

[@chimmy1320]

Why this cases existed whenever we go ?? Why we couldn't love each other like a human being too??I hoping that this case will end because so many young adults died because of it.

[@Bongi344]

- depends on the level of violence - how much that person apologizes Pretty much my conclusion, too.

[@jordan180]

But exactly like they said, once this happens it could mean the end of their career. I think that if they are forgiven by the victim and have changed there is no reason to not be forgiven by everyone else as well. It’s also going to be very hard to find a new job because they started so young so if they are past 26 it will be hard to get another job.

[@Seoyeaji921]

People may change but they will face karma and consequences isn't it ? same for kpop idols when you want to become public figure you should be aware about these things ? But offcourse that doesn't mean their carrier should be taken away from them for which they had work so hard for and build it.

[@addiezavala1557]

I know it's easier access nowadays for anyone to expose others but I do have to remind myself to stay neutral bc I'm not the person who has been victimized but I always wonder why do they wait so long before speaking up. I can't wait years later before I expose someone for mistreating me. I do understand that everyone is different and has different triggers though so seeing them more and more in the entertainment spotlight has to play a part in their timing. I wish the best for the victims either way bc noone should be mistreated and bullied...PERIOD!! Schools need to start being held accountable as well.

[@rahgc4444]

I'm from a part of the world where bullying wasn't really a thing, like taking people's money or beating them up for no reason. So i couldn't understand why it was such a big deal till watching this video. I do feel bad for the victims, but the problem with outing the issue now and on social media rather than earlier on, it makes me feel like the victims want revenge or a take down or to ruin the persons image, rather than a sincere apology. Its human nature to want to hurt the ones who hurt us. But at the same time no one wins. Matters like this should be handled privately if possible. Also alot of victims over emphasize and lie about situations. So a shove turned into "that person hit me", since it would have been years ago. We should kinda take things with a grain of salt and also don't judge adults based on how they behaved as children or teenagers. It's not fair to them.

[@xyz-hs9ix]

Victims of bullying that has grown up and received no closure or apologies are so pitiful to me and i have a lot of sympathy for them. Society expect them to just move on because the people that bullied them were just kids, even though they were the same age themselves and had to pay the price so someone else could go through their bullying phase. It's easy to drown into their hatred and anger especially if their bullies turned out to be successful and loved by thousands if not millions of people. It's hard to come to the fact that they're a better person now since they didn't make an effort to apologize to the people they've wronged in the past. Which is understandable, rarely people want to face their past and realize they were the bad guy in somebody else's life story and they chose to reflect in silence. I also wish these matters were handled privately but I can understand how the urge to take revenge developed in them.

[@rahgc4444]

@@xyz-hs9ix Yes they have suffered. But i think my gripe is also with society who can so easily judge a person based on their past. It does depend on the severity of the action but for someone to be at risk of losing all they've worked for and be discredited because of what they did as a teenager seems unfair. Its like i am several years into my career, and a past classmate came to my workplace to tell my boss I had hit them and took their money in high school so i should be fired or suspended, and then all my coworkers and people agree. I would apologize sincerely but i can't be punished for it by my job.

[@xyz-hs9ix]

@@rahgc4444 yeah it's not a black and white issue at all. When the bully and the bullied are still at school it's easy to give proper punishment accordingly (something that schools often fail to do, which gives more power to the bully and make the bullied helpless and the cycle continues) but when it's into adulthood... It's such a complicated matter. The bully shouldn't lose its job especially in this economy but on the other hand all they can offer the victim is an apology which doesn't fix everything but at least gives them closure. The apology wouldn't fix their ruined school days or the trauma that caused them but there's truly nothing else that can be done. The victims really do get the short end of the stick eventually.

[@franciscojavier8140]

@@rahgc4444 you said "for someone to be at risk of losing all they've worked for and be discredited because of what they did as a teenager seems unfair." but have you thought that their actions of the past could've pushed someone towards suicide? they might be at risk of losing their jobs now or whatever but the people that were bullied were probably thinking of suicide at one point and even if they're alive now or didn't think about suicide they definitely have some kind of ptsd or problem because of the bullying. also you're just trying to not be hard on yourself because you were the bully and not the one being bullied lol i personally wouldn't have done what your coworker did but just imagine how much that single event marked them for them to even remember it after all the time that has passed also i think it's funny that you said "I'm from a part of the world where bullying wasn't really a thing, like taking people's money or beating them up for no reason" but then you later you said "a past classmate came to my workplace to tell my boss I had hit them and took their money in high school " so you did that for what reason? lol

[@rahgc4444]

@@franciscojavier8140 it's actually an example i was giving about the work situation. And i stand by my point. Depending how severe your actions where, your job now should not be so influenced by who you were as a child/teenager, especially if you no longer acted the way you did. The bully should acknowledge the wrong they did privately and apologize. But the bully even if they caused the situation or put the victim in a situation isn't actually in control of the victim's mental health. That might sound harsh but it's true. So the bully could be sincere in their apology and the victim still feels wronged and suicidal, then what? Is it only when the bully loses all they've worked for that the victim will be free of their past? Come on now. Its more so though society than the victim themselves as I'd said before that calls for the ostracizing of the rich and famous when their past is brought to light, and that is something i disagree with.

[@calliesantana9524]

Celebrities who have been blamed for bullying should start lobbying to implement some programs in schools regarding bullying awareness. That would be a good way to redeem themselves.

[@cassiescotland6754]

@Callie Santana I agree especially the celebs who have admitted and celebs in general, that would be a way of showing understanding from the victims point and also where celebrities are bullied too by fans or nonfans. Use their platform to speak for the voiceless many who are enduring right now and delve deeper into the issues of the bully's behavior. Look at the cost!! Surely it's worthwhile. The topic is ripe in Korea right now and an Ideal way to start the conversion and give voice to all concerned. It may not stop incidents entirely, but it will sow seeds of change and demonstrate genuine action to be part of the solution. Do something with the hiatus taken and the influence they have.

[@leftcoastfunk]

Possibly unpopular opinion, but I don't entirely understand why they feel like they have to be so harsh in punishing these people. Before anyone says anything, I do NOT condone bullying in any way. But I also believe that it should be stopped and dealt with when it's happening and not 5, 10, or 20 years later. The school systems, teachers, parents, and peers clearly would much rather just not talk about it than deal with it. If these celebrities are *currently* bullying others, that's a different story altogether, but they are accused of being a**holes in middle school and high school. Everybody was, at some point, to some one, an a**hole at that age. While maybe an apology was perhaps never given in the past, I believe that more than half of being sorry is changing your ways - so if they have matured into a respectful adult who treats others well, then I personally think that speaks louder than a formal apology. I was bullied *quite a bit* in school too, for many years. To be perfectly honest, I would be happy for those bullies to achieve success in their lives *IF* they have actually changed and legitimately no longer act that way towards other people. I would much, MUCH rather see them living a respectful life than hear them tell me they are sorry face to face, regardless of the sincerity of the apology. I know in my heart that if they have truly changed their behavior and demeanor...they ARE sorry, whether they have said it out loud or not. It's easy for a kid to be an a**hole in school, but it's hard for that same kid to go on to become a decent person I think we need to give them a bit of a break and look at how they are currently living their lives, that's the only way if you can tell they are truly sorry

[@Bongi344]

I second this

[@Seoyeaji921]

But karma is there and consequences are also there kpop idols who have bullied need to face punishment they need to face karma and they need to face. Consequences but they shouldn't lose carrier.

[@indigocupcake2937]

If anyone who is being bullied Don hold your, speak for yourself, go against them, ask for elders help, inform the issue to your teachers. Don't let's yourself to get bullied. It will mess up your self esteem if you let people bully you

[@livinginyourmagicshop3858]

Why their is so much bullying in korea wtf is their government doing why their is not a strict law for bullies and most of them are rich ass students Their parents should teach their child rather than taking their support every kdrama i watch is about bullying its because in real life it to happens india maybe a messed up country but her bullying is strictly prohibited and even parents dont support their child in this criminality things

[@cocorich1047]

This interview is very well said.

[@realrosesarered5618]

Yes bullying is not okay at all but some people don't understand the difference between Bullying and old school Drama.If it was an issue that could have been fixed then it should have been resolved, its Actually the school fault though if a student spoke they should have taken better measures to solve the issue.

[@Lolol5657]

Well, just thinking that even one of these interviewees might be a bully him/herself is just so saddening! We don’t even know/trust anyone anymore 😪 it’s a cultural issue as most of them indicated 🤕

[@Joy-hs8zc]

This was a good interview thanks. I really liked the questions asked.

[@georgebecky1951]

I think how the artist can be acceptable to comeback after admiting his/her mistake apologies, compensate the victim and also get aprovement from the victim that the victim will be ok seeing them back to the entertainment, so if the victim is actually dont want the artists be anymore in the entertainment because of how severe the victim get mentally deepen scar so the artists should retire from entertainment

[@-EchoesIntoEternity-]

did they get an LG sponsorship? 🤔

[@mehanikhenloong9016]

Just imagine that there must be one who might have done it before themself but while asking them about bully and they b like.....

[@MewDenise]

I was bullied. I've moved on long long ago

[@blairwrelos1891]

Then good for you....

[@waho6167]

I was as well. But some people hold onto their past more than others

[@ellienavarro4230]

Me too. And real life is worse. In a way being bullied gave me the strength and the tools to confront difficult situations in the world of work.

[@winniethepooh8353]

So if you were to see them again, you wouldn't hold a grudge?

[@waho6167]

@@winniethepooh8353 I know this was for the other person but ima answer. No I wouldn’t feel a grudge towards them if I were to see them again because I became a stronger person after that. Everything that’s ever happened to me I don’t dwell on and get depressed. There’s no point in me being depressed when I can look at the situation in a different light and find ways in which I can become stronger.

[@rakamaulana5534]

When you enemy became star this time to destroyed them. I like this, hope the victims can life happy life and the bullies got destroyed

[@rooowtwx]

There is one thing I'm very curious about...exactly why so many cases are being exposed within 1 week. There are just way too many of them all at once that I can't help but think if this is just to cover up something else.

[@jenjen157]

Some of these victims are saying that these things happened to them when they were children in ELEMENTARY school!!! AND you are saying that this is such a problem that these actors can NEVER recover their careers because of something they did when they were immature children!? I was a victim of both school bullying and parental child abuse. It took seeking help from a mental health professional to help me deal with it. I was able to forgive the Bully but not the parental abuse. Even though it was very hard to even talk to my parents it was the Mental Health Professional that helped me be able to do that.

[@winniethepooh8353]

When I hear about the bullying I just think of Cheese in the trap, Cutter, and The Legendary Lackey.

[@immafav2353]

Okay this topic is off but the guy with the mask who said he was also bullied is really so cute even with the mask.

[@grannydearest9129]

Great video like always👍🏽 can you talk about the housing scandal next?

[@blairslife2293]

Bullying is bad any where you go but it’s worse in Korea because students that underage according to the law doesn’t receive any soft of hard punishment. It’s all about reflection. Reflection works for some but not for most. Hopefully something changes in the near future.

[@winniethepooh8353]

Exactly, they just get a slap on the hand

[@huffletuff7]

I personally don't think there is any point in focusing so much on the celebrities and if they should be allowed to continue their careers or whatever. Is this really solving the problem? Most likely they are not the same immature person they were when they were 16 or younger, so what is the point of chastising them and pushing for severe punishment? It won't solve the bullying problem, because when you're a kid and want to bully someone, you're not thinking of how it could possibly affect your career 10, 20, 30 years down the line. They're kids, their brains aren't developed to that point to think like that. Something needs to be done about the bullying WHILE it's happening, otherwise it is simply too late. And I'm not saying that you aren't allowed to stop liking a celebrity if something like this happens and it rubs you the wrong way. That's your opinion and your choice, but don't make it your mission to take them down. It really isn't solving anything at all, your energy is best spent elsewhere.

[@realrosesarered5618]

There are also people who don't realize that the comments and words they say affect other people.

[@RenaG]

It doesnt really matter if they're "not immature anymore" since their actions in the past have caused trauma that the victims still have to live with in the present

[@zz-zzz]

Idk why but I just think that the girl in gray clothes, are the one who like bad commenting the bullies on social media.

[@MewDenise]

I'm not a fan of all these celebs but these locals sound too blood thirsty. Never recover? For something they did as a dumb 13 year old?

[@thinaa.m.5812]

Agree..

[@ryum9748]

Like it’s so easy for them to say like yes they should leave there career. Like how would they feel if this happened to them & said go leave everything and live In a village.

[@fmjjjjn7510]

It’s up to the victims not for bystanders.

[@ryum9748]

@@fmjjjjn7510 yeah I hope the victim finds peace with the true justice but I hope they don’t do it for revenge otherwise in the end they would be no different from that bully.

[@sanjeetachoun5843]

I mean I understand but some of the things these celebrities have done seems more like assault than bullying.

[@nadiatrudel]

could you guys make videos about things foreigners should know before moving to Korea or what international students should know? love your videos!

[@fadhillaaryani2711]

I always see bullying part in every Kdrama. I think the goverment must be more concerning about this habit. Btw, i'm worry about Jisoo. Actualy he's carreer in worst situation.

[@KikiTuxedoCat]

My heart jumps, I thought they interviewing Jung Hae In, an actor, in the cover 😆

[@numrah511]

I think Koreans are desensitised to bullying which is why when they are asked if they have seen any such cases, they say "not much". While in the same breath saying they come across cases walking on the streets and that teachers don't pay much attention etc.

[@RLM22]

I wanna know why only celebrities are being accused of bullying, where are all the regular people at?

[@tinataylor5026]

Din karean schools cannot the students go to the teachers or someone in authority to report this so they can handle the problem I'm sorry for them if they have know one to turn to

[@Joy-hs8zc]

I've heard they can but the teachers are effectively powerless as they can be sued by parents and bullying allegations hurt the school's reputation. Also the consequences for bullies does not seem to be enough to deter them.

[@normancross1515]

. . . I seem to remember hearing about someone back in history saying, "Let ye who are without sin cast the first stone" but then again, perhaps I misinterpreted it . . .

[@BoredPandaNomNom]

How can u actually stop this when it is actually part of a culture? When even adults experience it in their work environments?

[@floriantinibernadetha4053]

Bullying is not right and it should not happen in schools the places where young people proceed the education physically, mentally, socially. Good education results good outcome of students. In most cases, school bullying happens due to the upbringing of the student who got bullied at home. Integrative approach should be conducted (school, parents and community).

[@leechan2394]

isn't it scary hw the ppl in the vids might be bullies but we don't know 😦 its just a sudden thought bc anyone cld be bullies & they act like nth happened with their lives..scary thoughts

[@yenxion6516]

The only thing I don’t like about Japan and Korea school is the group class. Can you imagine having to sit with your bully for eight hours every day. 😩

[@trafalgar3963]

They are the one who gave T-ara’s scar

[@anistardi]

This is difficult to prove because that happened many years ago. So, the person take neutral position is the best. They should focus on the school right now, not the past to prevent it is not happen again. Some celebrities have received many hate with no reason. Why they targeted to celebrities? To make them popular?

[@easyteh4getperson]

honestly, if it involves a child’s welfare, schools shouldnt be afraid of parents sueing... parents sue all the time in the US but not once for transferring a student. if a teacher thinks it’s reasonable, the school should back up the teacher.

[@BunEsub]

KOREA NEEDS TO FIX THEIR JUDICIAL SYSTEM

[@MewDenise]

Police investigation? ... for bullying?

[@ScarlettKriss]

When those two ladies said they had never seen bullying in their school...I couldnt help but wonder if they were the bullys. They seemed to behave a bit differently to a lot of the questions too.

[@DefineMorena]

Yes...

[@st1jj235]

maybe they went to school with a friendly environment and therefore did not witness violence and do not know much about it to answer confidently and clearly? im sorry, but accusing complete strangers of bullying judging by the video on the Internet where they just talk for a few minutes is very strange

[@throwaway3611]

if everyone a bully then no one is. wow that so simple how come i never thought of that before!

[@c.lattimre3322]

So I wonder if bullying is apart of Korean culture ? Like is this considered normal and the only reason people are talking about it is because these people became actual celebrities ?

[@Fruitystyleangel]

i’m pretty sure some of the bullying allegations are are false but even so, if past victims want to get their vengeance as a means to heal and move on, i’m for it. i wasn’t exactly bullied but i was ostracized a lil bit, i wouldn’t want nothing to do with my school mates now but i can see if you just wanted to get your story out there for peace of mind.

[@juliemarie3082]

So Boys Over Flowers is basically a documentary... Understood.

[@ForeverHeHim]

Can anyone tell me what drama is on the right side of the thumbnail for this video?

[@lm5661]

That picture in the thumbnail is really upsetting please tell me its not real

[@pigzie9988]

Can somebody inform me what has happend?

[@ysarns]

is soojin's situation rlly difficult? i didn't look into it

[@bluesideloml3150]

for all of the ppl in the mini interview who said they witnessed bullying, why would u not stop it? try even. ppl with power who turn a blind eye, ppl who witness and turn a blind eye, ppl who love the bully and turn a blind eye, all of them are part of the problem. the school with the power, the society and witnesses, the bully's friends and family, all of them are part of the problem.

[@바보Queen]

come on now knetz.. can't blame them for something they did when they are 12 years old in soojin of gidles case, most of them arent even neutral, they are trying to cancel her already

[@Seoyeaji921]

Don't try to excuse them for their age if they are public figure people can call them out.

[@Seoyeaji921]

But yeah they shouldn't cancel them

[@saabrinaadan3110]

No offense but if you are being bullied amongst your own people, there must be something weird about you because Korea is homogenous. Either you lack common sense and said something out of place or you are too carefree about your appearance and that makes others jealous. Most relationships are superficial so if you play up to the things weird about you then it's no wonder people will dislike you.

[@thiyasgaluh64nt]

can i ask? are korean racist? what korean and goverment think after *netizen +62 "kasih paham"* after racist to indonesia?