So basically the same options we had for the last 10 years. Uff, I was looking for something more fresh than that.
@hirotv26217 ай бұрын
Yep another year, same list
@hirotv26217 ай бұрын
@@edc6172 It's not the youtubers homie, we get it, it's just the current state of MMORPG's we have been stuck with the same shit for over the last 10 years and when new shit comes out they shut down the servers in 4/6 months after launch
@almightyurf32367 ай бұрын
Dude ive been searching for last 2 hours i wanna play something new but its the same crap every year.
@膜法师-p8w7 ай бұрын
sadly, lost ark could be the youngest one worth to play for a while. Diablo 4 maybe ?
@timjoseph68447 ай бұрын
@@膜法师-p8wDiablo 4 is not an mmo.
@LosRabinos9 ай бұрын
For me, ESO and GW2 are unfortunately one of those games that you think about a lot, but as soon as you start these games, you stop wanting to play them and turn them off.
@traveling.down.the.road569 ай бұрын
I don’t know about ESO, because I haven’t played it, but GW2 gets a lot better when you get past the base game and start to play the expansions. So if you gave up on it before you tried any of the expansions, then I would say you should give it another try.
@blacksabbath25599 ай бұрын
I played gw 2 until lvl 35. Then i uninstalled the game. This game is ridiculous.
@traveling.down.the.road569 ай бұрын
@@blacksabbath2559 Well no game is right for everyone, but millions of people have enjoyed GW2 for years. It’s okay that you don’t like it and I hope you can find something else that works for you. Level 35 is pretty low though and you obviously never made it to a very large part of the game. I’m not trying to convince you to try it again because if you really hated the first 35 levels of your character, then maybe nothing in the later parts of the game will change your mind.
@blacksabbath25599 ай бұрын
@@traveling.down.the.road56i dont like to play a warrior with a great sword and seeing a player next to me with a toon looking like à rebel commando from SW, with laser gun. Look of mounts, achievments, everything in this game annoyed me. This world has no personnality. But i you like gw2, good for you. Lotr, swotor, wow classic vanilla were my fav ones.
@fueradelmeta9 ай бұрын
@@blacksabbath2559 Same for me, you just lost the inmersion in those cases.
@Killua_008 ай бұрын
for years we have only these games its a shame...
@eightninety.11 күн бұрын
mmo genre is so cursed man i just miss my childhood mmo games
@imBaelfire52179 ай бұрын
In Lost Ark You start your daily chores at 09:00 and you finish at 21:00 everyday, for 7days a week. Extremely p2w. and additionally you MUST have multiple characters to grind and feed your Main. enjoy
@fueradelmeta9 ай бұрын
I won´t complain about a 200+ hours of enjoyable gameplay FREE game. But yeah it is kinda off putting that you MUST spend to rivalize agaisnt others.
@dominiksepiolo98709 ай бұрын
Personally i find this hella true as a player who only has around 650ish hours in the game, and that was also the reason i stopped playing because while doing dailys etc. at some point i just started watching yt or something on my second screen while playing, and at that point u gotta ask yourself if u even find it fun to play or if it just became a chore for u to do
@chadlineage9 ай бұрын
thanks for revealing the true state of the game, other games should be revealed too so nobody can be a victim of c.creators overhyping mmoprgs for that matter
@hedoingitsideways7 ай бұрын
Don't forget, even after doing all this, expect to be gatekept unless you are like 70 ilvl above the content you're doing.
@layoutkimsstudio23417 ай бұрын
its an asian game dont expect much. ngl that game was over hyped to the moon. lol
@cLaw274 ай бұрын
IMO, the best thing about ESO is the world made of phases/layers. You cleared a village of an invading army? Now you live in a world where there isn't an army in that village anymore and the NPCs live their lives. You choose to save a port instead of a fort from an enemy attack? The port lives on while the fort remains in ruins for the rest of your character's life. Would love to see more games like this. If anyone has game suggestions, please share them with me.
@smellybearc74117 ай бұрын
So many mmos? I feel like it’s always those few, Wow, FFXIV, GW2, ESO, BDO. That’s it. It always boils down to those for the last ten years.
@Despond8 ай бұрын
That feeling when you've played thousands of hours on every MMO on the list and want to move on.
@Novica896 ай бұрын
Try changing game genre or just stop playing games and do something more interesting / productive instead?
@86Corvus5 ай бұрын
Are you sure you like games about leveling a character?
@longfishyАй бұрын
Play Monster Hunter, there is gear progression but no levelling. It is very refreshing.
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
The Ashes Of Creation channel is here - www.youtube.com/@AshesOfCreationOddity The reason for other channels is imply to help people only get content they want. This channel you are on is for the whole MMO genre, then I have a couple of game specific channels which are just passion projects, news and guides on games I like. Imagine Josh Strife Hayes on his channel also making New World patch videos, it wouldn't really belong would it.
@Harshi1Music6 ай бұрын
Eagerly waiting for this new MMORPG! I have been following you guys and the game looks AWESOME!
@klegolas40889 ай бұрын
OSRS and RS3 both are still solid and more complex than what they look. Lots! of content in them
@Str8GasGenetics8 ай бұрын
yeah rs3 has such insane skill based bossing its cool how you can make more money if youve got the skill to do high end bossing, its not jut about level and gear everybody is maxed but less than 1% can do 500 plus telos
@RyuDouro3 ай бұрын
my bots already did everything on those
@turamnab2 ай бұрын
@@RyuDouro So you botted a game without actually playing it, now you're saying you're bored? When you never even touched the game? Lmaoooo
@RyuDouro2 ай бұрын
@@turamnab why you put so many words on me that I didn't even said once? the only thing I and many others did was make bots so the game is way less repetitive.
@turamnab2 ай бұрын
@@RyuDouro Pretty heavily implied, dude. "Play these games." "Nah my bots already did everything on those." Pretty cringe,
@neil6769 ай бұрын
New World has the most potential, just unsure if it's potential will be reached. Their next expansion needs to blow the last one out of the water, and actually marketed. I'm of the belief that Rise of The Angry Earth was actually a soft expansion. Let's hope something big happens this year, because it's a game that could be much bigger than it is right now.
@atgtrading9 ай бұрын
I am a die hard GW2 fan (over 8000 hours), but when End of Dragons was released, I bought it but just never had the gusto to actually start playing it - think I just got bored of the game. PVP was my main reason for coming back to the game over and over, but I was looking for something more PVE focused. GW2 combat system is excellent, movement and abilities are fluid, builds and character customization is great, but I felt the world they created was never seamless and big enough compared to games like WoW and ESO. So I started playing ESO, loved it, almost 4k hours in. Rich lore, great PVE, PVP is also fun (not as good as GW2 though), nice build gear based customization but I took a break a few months ago. I also returned to New World a week ago after the shambles of a release it was. Pleasantly surprised - they have fixed a lot of the issues that plagued it at launch. But it is still not really scratching that itch to be honest. The games code is inherently bad and it still stutters occasionally even when I am seeing 80fps and higher - the engine is just not as fluid as ESO and GW2. For a 2021 release the visuals could be better. Combat is ok, but builds are VERY limited compared to ESO and GW2. The enemies in NW are also bland and many of them are just clone copies of each other. There is no real variety and I am not sure if they did this intentionally or just lazy. Most of the enemies are either humanoids or animals. So I tried ESO again and just cannot get back into it. FFXIV online was just one massive borefest - combat sucks, sound effects suck and so does the GUI. Long global cooldowns on skills make it even more boring. The story and lore is great though that's about all it has going for it. I have yet to try BDO and I am reading/seeing some good things about it so I might just give it a go.
@EvangelionEscaflowne8 ай бұрын
thanks for your feedback
@66666sandy5 ай бұрын
Try BDO
@HiroofDeath2 ай бұрын
BDO world feels amazing even tho the story is trash. BDO is full on grinding for hundreds of hours on the same spot tho. If you dont enjoy grinding or like to spend money on the cash shop you get clapped at PvP. Tldr: Great world design but you have to enjoy mindless grinding otherwise the game is not for you.
@pepegaclap86049 ай бұрын
there is a limit on selling cashshop items in BDO, 10 per week, selling and buying gear will take years... you can buy costumes to get crons yourself in unlimited amount for safe enchant, but is it really p2w if you still fail your 4% enhancment XD BDO's p2w is absolutely useless. But you have stuff like weight and slots etc, you can also play without them absolutely ok for years. Costumes absolutely worth buying to wear them : ^ )
@billy_cross9 ай бұрын
Seriously do 100 hours for a new player first impressions hundred hours makes you a veteran, but yes, Elder school online has a lot to offer but you have to keep in mind. It is monetized in a really, anti-consumer way. There are things you’re not going to get without spending cash.
@OGParzoval9 ай бұрын
Having played all of those minus Albion, GW2 wins my vote easily. You can PVP at level 2 with full equalized gear set to level 80 and all your abilites etc. Level to max and earn currency for your legendary equipment. In GW2 legendary equipment is the best in slot items and because of horizontal progreassion and zone leveling you dont lose power by taking a break from the game. World vs. World is hella fun compared to NW wars, or Wow's pvp systems. There's also 5v5 arenas, the holiday events have special pvp modes with them like dragon ball going on right now (Think fire nation hunger games), or snowball fights during the winter event etc. They also just released a new mode for pvp fights in guild halls with other mode rulesets so this is huge. The weapon changes about to hit are going to be awesome, and they have moved to quarterly updates, they have expansions planned out for the next 3 years so far as well. Compared to wow, eso, and NW, once you're max level there's very little to do honestly. GW2 you have raids, dungeons, fractals, strike missions, meta events, gathering, crafting, gaming the trading post, daily, weekly, and other events, rush events for pvp where you get double xp etc, holidays, beetle racing, guild hall customization, jumping puzzles, grinding up to legendary gear, transmost *gasps for breath*. I also consider that the grapics actually hold up for it's age, reshade works some wonders on it too, but if you're struggling to run NW or BDO, GW2 is going to work great.
@blacksabbath25599 ай бұрын
Coming from lotro, swotor and wow vanilla, i tried gw2. After 35 lvl i unstalled it. No personnality, stupid mounts & achievments, the world is a melting pot of everything. Classes are terrible, races are ugly. Tell me, is a sci fi game or heroic fantasy one? cause i saw players with great sword and other with rifle like sw... Terrible.
@turamnab2 ай бұрын
GW2 offers no sense of progression and the combat is the most dry and boring out of any MMO on this list.
@HiroofDeath2 ай бұрын
@@turamnabit does you probably just dont get it because you think of progression in terms of gear. In gw2 you progress your masteries from expansions. These masteries give you benefits over other people who havnt unlocked them. They allow you to earn more gold and the likes. Some masteries are so op (like united legions waystation or jade bots) that players who havnt unlocked said mastery are straight up at an disadvantage.
@turamnab2 ай бұрын
@@HiroofDeath You just made a bunch of empty assumptions about what you think that I think. I know how GW2 progression works, but it's still repetitive and boring and doesn't give a sense of growth. Just, "go grind this checklist for more rewards that do very little to expand the game's playability." It's fine for some people, but don't tell me I'm wrong, don't say I don't understand, just because I have different preferences than you.
@HiroofDeath2 ай бұрын
@@turamnab Well then your previous statement is flat out wrong. Gw2 offers progression in terms of horizontal progression. It also offers a "sense of progression" because the more you progress the more loot you get from activities and so on. Thats a "sense of progression" by definiton: You play and the more you play the more you progress. What you shouldve said is that you dont like the progression. But saying theres "no sense of progression" because you dont like/enjoy the progression is hilarious. Your doing a factually incorrect statement to underline your feelings. Its some next level copium to be honest
@amalayum9 ай бұрын
Every one of these games are garbage... gosh this genre really is dead. It's been the same 5 major games for the last 10 years now.
@alfredgreybeard9 ай бұрын
New World can make the greatest expansion known to man, after the last I don't trust them enough to buy it. The game needs a few years to be added to and a new team making decisions.
@yhwach18 ай бұрын
There arent mmos like Tera anymore😔
@膜法师-p8w7 ай бұрын
miss it, great game
@FckYuWantАй бұрын
Tera had issues, but damn was the combat good.
@tooubii9 ай бұрын
Man, I'm trying to love New World but they just can't make the right moves with the game. PVP could be so good with few fixes and more play modes. 3v3 arena is nerfed down so can't even find matches and not worth playing. OPR needs some sort of matchmaking and IMO we just need totally different PVP mode than these two. Been playing since launch but nowadays just don't even want to launch the game. And needless to say, these seasonal events not even worth farming for 80% of players. PVE is allright yet gets boring after a while. Solo trials would be a good options for new content and I guess it'd be pretty easy to add to the game. Anyways, keep up making the good content Jay!
@blacksabbath25599 ай бұрын
Each time i m on the verge to buy NW, i read bad things like the ones you just write. And each time i delay my purchase
@86Corvus5 ай бұрын
There are 3 maybe 4 mmos to play and the only ones worth playing are in order 1. Guildwars 2 2. Wow or ff14 3. Eso Oh and if you like retro grindy mmos Ragnarok online Lineage 2 Maplestory. There you go. Thats what is worth staying with and playing.
@mhnoni2 ай бұрын
what about WOW? I want to play an MMO for the first time, I've never played any MMO in my life.
@seankoasАй бұрын
Osrs
@Maui9189 ай бұрын
For people into hard-core pvp I recommend Mortal Online 2, I've been playing since alpha and having lots of fun
@arangor826 ай бұрын
Lost Ark is definitely A LOT more pay to win than BDO
@MarvolaukesАй бұрын
why?
@kroduk24009 ай бұрын
Star Was MMO been ship to broadsword studio last year.. this is a studio where EA send their old MMO to die; like Ultima Online or Dark Age of Camelot. aka: not worth to elaborate.. solid video!!
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
yeah I tried to pick the popular ones without tilting anyone
@kluafoz9 ай бұрын
Eso going head to head with the new ffxiv expansion will kill eso projections
@joshrafike51339 ай бұрын
I feel u on alot of what u said bro. I've played all the games except for BDO. One of my fav games I ever played was rs3. Tbh the best experience tho is when u get some friends to play together. I've swapped over to more of a survival style mmo. Paxxdei will be amazing blueprotocal if u enjoy an anime style will be worth if it ever releases lol
@relaxingsessions53257 ай бұрын
Try BDO
@markvis41063 ай бұрын
the nerve these companies have to feel entitled to still monetize their older expansions, when they felt the need to overwrite that same expansion, because otherwise people would stop playing their stupid game is just beyond me.
@Flosstradamuss9 ай бұрын
Ive played them all and I always end up back playing BDO. Best graphics, best combat, sadly doesnt have a lot of group PvE content. If it starts adding more group PvE content, itll be best MMO hands down.
@kluafoz9 ай бұрын
Have you ever tried black desert mobile? Man I love that so much more than bdo!!
@Flosstradamuss9 ай бұрын
@@kluafoz this is pc.. we don’t talk about bullshit mobile games 😂😂😂
@raven53238 ай бұрын
@@Flosstradamusslol...
@jooseppaarnamets4175Ай бұрын
grind is terrible tho
@2Jointz5 ай бұрын
I've played all of these besides NW, LA, AO, and Runescape, but I highly doubt any of them have what I want. Some I've played more than others, it probably goes something like WoW, GW2, ESO, FF14, BDO for playtime. I think one of the worst things about videogames is they try to hinder the player too much. Why hasn't some game dev listened to what we all hate and love about these mmos and made a new one that doesn't suck and combines the best of them.
@Deviantloverable7 ай бұрын
For me, archeage was the mmo...but you know how that went...
@xelvierhd93487 ай бұрын
I am very sad that half of the games here I either have played or just know way to good sadly I do really hoped that I see something new still nice vid
@prince_warhero3 ай бұрын
As a gw2 player i have tried WoW and FFXIV multiple times over the last few years and always found the questing and tab targeted combat so boring. I just cant go back to traditional boring mmo quests after experiencing the dynamic hearts and meta map events in gw2. Plus gw2 has the best mounts ever and lot of QoL features that are absent in other mmos
@kmo9512 ай бұрын
new world is dead update list pliz
@user-686hs-772 ай бұрын
Update with what exactly? This has been the same list for the last 10 years with some new games that flopped added here and there. There are no new MMORPG's that will get close to Wow, FFXIV, ESO, OSRS or GW2 except Riots new MMO, which is speculated to release in another 2 years
@WelbyCoffeeSpill9 ай бұрын
or just play the recently officially sanctioned free private servers of City of Heroes mmo! :)
@renegadea7 ай бұрын
FFXIV has been my choice for the past few months!
@bigdog36286 ай бұрын
Although things have changed since the most recent expansion, I would say Star Wars the Old Republic is the best story rich MMO out there. It is worth the "cost" to try out the first 60+ hours of story content. (The base game and first two expansions are free, but levelling is a little slower without the boosts you can get as rewards, crafting is limited and there is no end game content such as raiding for free players. Not bad if you don't like multiplayer stuff.) Once you are finished with the free stuff and you want to continue the story, then subscribe just once and all the expansions available at the time, which is six of them right now, are unlocked. No need to stay subscribed if you don't care about the endgame and gear restrictions. All in all great game and graphics and well worth a try.
@turamnab2 ай бұрын
FFXIV is objectively the most story rich and it's not even close. ESO is probably second place.
@andynicolaides9 ай бұрын
Great video Jay! 🎉
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😁
@RozowyPatatajec9 ай бұрын
Lost Ark with "Possible indications of P2W"? That game is sructured around P2W.
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
Yeah but I haven't played it, so I feel bad sayign something is pay to win when I never touched it :(
@kluafoz9 ай бұрын
Jay do you like TnL or New World better?
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
NW but TL is heading in the right direction
@billy_cross9 ай бұрын
Yeah, it has excellent housing done perfectly. It has a great story with every single bit of it. Voice acted, and it’s almost all solo content. Your friends can come along, but when you go into the main story, quest giver you’ll buy yourself listening to them talk which is preferential, your friends talking in your ear while you’re trying to listen to the quest give her talk is annoying as fuck
@ZenStarwalker8 ай бұрын
ashes of creation is the most ambitious mmorpg to date. sadly, with eso which ive sunk years into, it just feels too empty, souless, unlike skyrim which is really weird that that havent just jumped up eso to this gen instead of milking events and subscriptions
@Kylored7 ай бұрын
I played New World for a bit and I loved it..untill I entered a town and my goof ol laptop couldn't handle it 😢
@kindlyremember6 ай бұрын
Should try checking out MU Online
@billy_cross9 ай бұрын
There’s really a mood point because if you’re gonna play the game seriously you have to have your soul plus or you have to just admit yourself you’re never going to do any crafting because crafting requires supplies supplies quickly fill up your storage unless you have the crafting bag which is unlimited crafting supply storage There’s absolutely no way to play this game seriously without the SL plus subscription so it’s a moot point and then moderation wise. They suck you in by making you buy the subscription but that unless you wanna wait until next year you also have to buy the expansion so you’re buying the expansion. You’re going to get free when the next expansion comes out Because you have ESO plus if they would simply sell the crafting stash or the craft bag which at one point they did you could buy the craft bag as a thing and then just buy each expansion they’ll come out once a year so big deal. In my opinion they’ve made a terrible choice because of I play. I will not buy the current expansion. I’ll wait until it’s free.
@theemperorV1Ай бұрын
In general, GW2 is the best overall nowadays
@ChabyCZ6 ай бұрын
BDO on PC really sux. The keybindings and the controls of the game are totally confusing.
@krrazt9 ай бұрын
good one Jay! cheers!
@michealvincent7317 ай бұрын
That big announcement for new world that's coming, players won't like it. They have already curved development but let's let AGS explain that one
@ohplease5874 ай бұрын
I am loving Enshrouded.
@BlxxdiemondGaming6669 ай бұрын
No mention of dune awakening?
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
The problem is with it, no idea when it will actually come or really what type of gameplay it will have. They are keeping their cards close to their chest
@BlxxdiemondGaming6669 ай бұрын
Yes they definitely are, I’ve been keeping a close eye on the content they do provide, but I do believe it will be a great MMO and they did do a closed beta recently hoping that shows we may be looking toward a realease mid year. For now I’ll stick to NW 😂
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
I think it's a first person shotter surival game with crafting and I am excited@@BlxxdiemondGaming666
@dimacristian84135 ай бұрын
you guys all are talking about the same mmorpgs...
@ventis80927 ай бұрын
What MMO RPG to play in 2024? Jay Oddity: I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA, WAS JUST MAKING CHEAP VIDEO FOR CLICKS, OH WELL HERE'S THE SAME OLD TIRED SHIT FROM TEN YEARS AGO
@jayoddity7 ай бұрын
That's sort of fair. But really I can't tell people what you should play... Like I'm not into story so should I play ff14? Maybe depends. If people don't like this style video I won't do it again, or I'll try and improve it
@Hanni934722 ай бұрын
@@jayoddityno no this video is okay as it is. I came to this video, because I wanted to know what kind of MMOs are currently up to date. It's not your fault that the same 3 mmo RPGs are still the optional choice for gamers.
@CarlosMartinez-jn2cf6 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you!
@YatoEz8 ай бұрын
New World good AF but there's no SEA server.. So if you're an asian player then the ping is high for pvp
@EggoPop6 ай бұрын
"What MMO should you play?" None of them unfortunately. Go play a good game instead. Also way to "recommend" a game you haven't actually played. Good job.
@Ashen2465 ай бұрын
I want to love BDO as visually its beautiful but my gosh, it feels weird for an MMO, it just feels like a single player with other people just floating around in my world, I want a social MMO that looks as good as BDO
@86Corvus5 ай бұрын
Bdo is trash.
@Allstar-tk4pb5 ай бұрын
ESO is the best mmo I’ve ever played
@anelibrahimovic77873 ай бұрын
BDO is grindy as hell. Enhancing and everything has stupid RNG where you will fail a lot even with 75-80% chance of success. But its not P2W game at all. An item that costs 34 euros in shop can be grinded in 2-3 hours by begginers once they get a gist of a game which isnt that hard. Game is simply not P2W you can get everything you need trough events, quests or central market.
@hawkjiang33617 ай бұрын
I play about most of these games, and played Wow the most. along with GW2. BDO does have a small pay to faster progressing but how many people are gonna have that kind of money. and also when you reach end game its all the same your not gonna have better gear or stats comepare to someone who is free to play. Compare to most games you cant buy instant lvl up with a full set of gear for you to use. Sure you can sell cash outfits but the price of them are really high its a slight boost but you can get the same effect when you are free to play. See this is the problem with western player base they have to complain about everything. All the top MMO people praise about have the same aspect even with FF14. So to then deem one game as P2W and then over here praising FF14 as the best and not P2W is just bias and delusional.
@gazhammond22087 ай бұрын
I struggle to see how bdo is p2w played from launch pay to be rich maybe but would have to sink a stupid amount into cosmetics to make that a viable option still my go to mmo can be confusing to new players and is far 2 many items I mainly lifeskill so full of junk lol subscription isn't really necessary as pearl abyss give you plenty of free value pack days I normally sell stuff and use one of the free value days to retrieve money from cm stops the 30% tax all round good game
@hawkjiang33617 ай бұрын
@@gazhammond2208 I agree about it not being pay to win. It’s not actually pay to win if the items or gear you can get the same results and item or gears as a free to play. The concept of pay to win has been to twist by the western mmo community that anything that needs money are considered pay to win. Pay to win is basically if you can get the best gear that a free to play can’t get at all in an instant.
@raythelog3 ай бұрын
everything feels so boring now
@griffoncs64316 ай бұрын
Having just started gw2, FFXIV, and ESO all at the same time because im a masochist, gw2 in my opinion is easily the prettiest and has the most fun combat, but ffxiv is rapidly growing on me in gameplay terms. Eso is honestly just boring so far. It feela like an insanely easy baby game. Ive heard it actually gets challenging in late game but we'll see if i can slog to that point. The combat also feels very skyrim ish and i never though combat was a strongpoint of skyrim.
@PawelSamagalski9 ай бұрын
new world was a bust y/n?
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
Mostly yes
@DiCapraLeo9 ай бұрын
@@jayodditysadly nw is dying at the moment. The game was extremely promising and had a lot of potential
@lousolo33469 ай бұрын
You know the genre is down bad when you watch all the way through just to get to the upcoming mmos
@r1ot9979 ай бұрын
love the video!
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@turamnab2 ай бұрын
How many years in a row are these guys just gonna remake the same videos lmfao
@aegisthes2729 ай бұрын
@jayoddity A term a lot of people love to use in the BDO sphere isn't pay to win, but pay to convenience. Many things are able to be received through events or just hard work; you can't buy gold or better gear, but you can buy things useful to attempt to upgrade gear. Only problem with the game is that it is massively grindy (since its a korean mmo) so i'd recommend some of the modded servers with higher rates, and free pearl drops.
@aegisthes2729 ай бұрын
Don't write off BDO for fear of grinding! I really do recommend the modded servers.
@aegisthes2729 ай бұрын
1500 hours on steam, 1500 hours on GamezBD private server
@Thattyguy_7 ай бұрын
Lost Ark has "some indications of pay to win" i mean i like the game but that makes it WAY too obvious youre not familiar with it at all
@vasilisvenompapadopoulos8 ай бұрын
I hate people when covering the shit. ESO have the worst monetisation in MMO. Tell them. ESO 95% from the rewards is behind Paywall. 5% is actually in game. They release expansion with only 1 Raide and sell you the dungeon after for more cash. Enjoy the game.
@Onyxnaire7 ай бұрын
Bdo is NOT pay to win 🤦🏾♂️
@billy_cross9 ай бұрын
Yeah Elder scrolls is great it is however very anti-consumer monetized I mean seriously you guys complain about paid to win and all that shit and you hate loop boxes get your praise Elder scrolls online when it’s loaded with loop boxes and pay to wind shit I mean demonization scheme is ridiculous. If you play it seriously you have to buy P is so plus, because there’s no other way anymore to get that scrap stash or on that scrap stash crafting bag with the unlimited crafting storage of the shit in the game comes out of loop boxes if you really want it you gotta spend cash buy a bunch of loop boxes keep opening them and hopingthe games not officially a subscription but you also gotta buy your plus unless you wanna buy the butt load of expansions and DLC’s so it is a good game fund. It has certain issues.
@muhammetozkan2566 ай бұрын
i cant find this game (the future)
@Label079 ай бұрын
Based on the title, I'll give every one a hint. Not New World :)
@AlexandraCristianaRO8 ай бұрын
Jay sweety, bdo is one of the few games that are not payed to win, you cannot be more wrong regarding this! ( you are saying this becouse you might be from america if i'm not wrong ) in america the store is different, and i mean MASSIVELY different jay, with 100 dollars over there in america you can get a ton of stuff that for us here is around 500 euros or more, the pricess and the amount within the purchase are massively different. We trully need to speed about 5 times more to recive the same amount of the same thing that americans get with just 100 dollars and the dollar is cheaper then euros, so in europe to say that this game is pay to win is just plain untrue.The way the game is designed is to not be able to trade money or pretty much anything within the game with other players ! There are very few "actually rich " players out there that ware born in to that big biggggg money tipes of ( trully wealthy familys) and they do like to risk they accounts for that extra advantage( i say risk becouse the only way to obtain in-game currency which is bassically the bigger and more important tipe of riches then what the in-game store provides), is to buy grinders,you have to actually give the info of your account to them so that a profesional payed team will farm on your account day and night to get you the amount of in-game currency that you purchased and that can take between a few weeks to a few months cause even for teams is still a very ridiculos slow proccess in obtaining the in-game currency! . Now,the only thing that tens of thousens of dollars or euros can buy you in the game is a few things that are limited here in europe and they don't exactly help you " alot " on the spot after u purchased them, you need to stack them up with time till you have a decent amount of that item and use it to improve your gear! The game store jay is severely expensive europe, really expensive when it comes to this. U need to be what they call a in-game whale, a very filthy rich person that can afford MANY thousens of dollars or euros per day or per week or per month for quite some time to be able to stack up what you can buy from the store with reall money, it is not unlimited purchase for what you need to actually improve your character and become stronger then the other players faster! 98% of the players in europe for example cannot afford more then 60 euros per month ( if even that ) to invest in their accounts for better rewards in the game. Believe me, this game is right there on the very top of NOT pay to win tipe of game. You see, when you go on about beeing a pay to win game, u need to understand how before makeing such a statement, and the how is and i'm not kidding , the how is low and extremely expensive in europe at least i do not know the full extent of the situation in america and american servers( i expect it to be far more pay to win possible then it is for us ). As an example, you need 1000 euros here in europe just to get yourself started " properly ", some starting packs and some skins for everything in the game that you need and you are already broke after that!!!! Only after that you can start investing in your empowering journey as one of those verrrrrryyyyy few whales that can actually afford to do just that and even they need alot of time to create big addvantages between themselfs and the rest of the players, they cannot do it over night or in a month , like 6 months or close to a year depending on the their luck , that would be an accurate estimated amount of time that a whale would finish his or her journey to beeing the strongest ! While a whale needs around a year, the rest of the world needs MANY MANY years to reach that stage. IF you ever enter the game and learn it and not just watch videos on the internet, you will get a bigger and better view and knowledge of the game and that about that " how " are the rich players takeing advantage of the pay to win option which is not really an option in my opioon to become one of the strongest much faster ! I say that is not really an option becouse, you spend 100 euros for almost nothing , like what , 1000 cron stone, and u cannot do shit with it, u need over 1000 just for a single try in upgradeing a tet to pen and the it is like 4% and as i said, if you are a trully lucky person then even low ammounts of what you need can be enough, but me...after 3 years and around 1300 euros invested , im not even close to end game gear. They made damn sure that here in europe, pay to win is not a reall thing or maby i just have the worst luck in the world and i ended in the most difficult , ultra hard mode and unluckiest server in the world to explain my current level, and i have 2.362 hours in the game. I admit, i did not play it 10 hours a day for 3 years, my situation would have been a better , but unlike those that are born in wealthy families, i have to work and make a liveing and take care of alot of responsibilities so my gameing time is much shorter then theirs and even so, from time to time i feel playing other games , watch movies, go out, etc... cannot really spend 10h a day like them dedicated to progress in the game. Anyway, america and eurpope does not have the same situation when it comes to in-game stores, for us in almsot every game everything is much more expensive and the ammount is lower compared to american in-game stores for the same game, that is a honest to god ,completely true statemant of fact ! Ciao
@jayoddity8 ай бұрын
I'm from the UK and I haven't played it. But don't worry it's on my radar
@AlexandraCristianaRO8 ай бұрын
@@jayoddity Hey jay. My first reply was abit to long and full of grammar errors,some of it barely readable ^^ So here is a shorter version=> IF the majority of players could afford to spend trully big numbers in the game per month at least, then yes we can say that the game can be paied to win in regards of the cash items that you can obtain from the store, that lead straight towards createing more chances to upgrade their gear for faster improvement ! Big numbers jay, more money per month then an entire common family combined usualy earns, that is just how excessively expensive it is to reach a high enough volume regarding the stuff you have to buy from the store and have enough to try your luck and upgrade the gearagain and again, that is why i do not consider this game to be paied to win jay! It is trully far to expensive for the general population to afford this path towards power. I have not seen a game more expensive then this,if there is one...i sure hope i never end up in it, i do not need more stress :P . Bye bye
@familiacioroaba1472Ай бұрын
GW2 and ESO ❤
@Nick-yv1rm8 ай бұрын
I cant take any youtuber seriously when they say they are willing to play all these games and rate them higher than OSRS and have no knowledge of how deep and extensive the content in RS+OSRS is.
@jayoddity8 ай бұрын
I can't play OSRS, the graphics just put me off. Simple as that, I don't need cutting edge graphics but I can't handle potatoe
@shaunanigans33647 ай бұрын
@@jayoddityThis is my problem. I try to get into it but I can’t stand the prehistoric graphics
@billy_cross9 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter to be fair, monetization wise fennel fantasy is, I’m far better choice than elder scrolls. You have to buy an expansion every so often, but your subscription is the only other money you’ll spend besides but it’s a buyer, place subscription business model, so far better choice, because unlike elder scrolls, they’re not sucking you into buying the subscription because it’s necessary And then charging you every year for the expansion they’re just telling you straight up the subscription is necessary but the cosmetics to mount all that shit aren’t tied to loop boxes. If you’re worried about the monetization final fantasy is a better choice if you’re worried about the gameplay, personally, I would stick with Elder scrolls professionally voice acted every bit of the content acted by a professional, not a single bit of dialogue box bullshit Final Fantasy will have lots of dialogue box bullshit so main story requesting is your thing, elder scrolls. If you’re worried about spending money, final fantasy is better.
@squwilf9 ай бұрын
I'm all in on New World. I love it. One day I do my fishing rounds and get mats and other do Expeditions and other PvP.
@kolbiebaker74719 ай бұрын
I sat in queue for 2.5hrs to do a 3v3, game is beautiful and the combat is awesome but in my opinion the lack of pve and pvp content just breaks it for me. Glad you enjoy it!
@FireQueenFul6 ай бұрын
Aion. It was the most wonderful game. So much potential ruined by greedy companies and bots. Also archeage.
@synitarthrax56189 ай бұрын
I guess I'm picky. I don't like isometric views so Lost World is out. I don't like PvP in MMORPG's and BDO enables PvP when you hit the level cap with no way to turn it off. BDO is out. I would love to play FF14 and the graphic update looks great but there are too many buttons for me. I mean really, do you really need 3,000 bars and 1,000,000 skills to do combat? FF14 is out. I don't like the graphics of GW2 and while many would say "graphics don't matter if the gameplay is good" I didn't spend money on a graphics card for nothing. GW2 is out. I love ESO but they keep nerfing the classes to the point where if you spend time building a char you can expect that char to completely change in a very short time rendering your work useless. ESO is out. WoW would be great but you can't start at level one and go though all the expansions in order. You have to "time walk" which gives you one expansion and at level 60 (you can stretch it to 61) you get kicked out. WoW is out. I'm iffy on Lost World. I've never played it so maybe it's wroth a try but there is something about it which keeps me from picking it up. No clue as to what that is. This leaves nothing. I think MMORPG's have gotten to the point where you pick the one you like the least and go from there while you wait for the perfect MMORPG which may never exist. Great video! You know ... if someone took the best from all these games, and all of these games have their great points, then put them together they may have a hit. Or at the least, my money. Maybe I need to get outside and grab some of that ... what do you call it again ... oh. Air. I've also heard that big yellow thing in the sky is really our friend Mr. Sun. Might need to get me some of that too.
@chadlineage9 ай бұрын
i got stuck with mir4 for waiting a better mmorpg experience and guess what theres almost none thats deserving for casual at least. Now i decided to quit mir4 because if you want to play competitive you have to spend minimum id say 300 cad to keep up, crazy! no more scam to earn platforms that was my first n fookin last
@mariobroro8 ай бұрын
* "graphics don't matter if the gameplay is good", I didn't spend money on a graphics card for nothing * To be honest it's really a shame to go with this mentality when there are games out there that doesn't prioritize graphics but the game itself (gameplay, soundtrack, story, characters, etc) For me, that mentality died when I played Undertale, OneShot, Omori, Valheim, Lethal Company, Hi Fi Rush, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2, Wizard of Legends, Tales of Berseria, Stardew Valley, Minecraft, Terraria. Those games are closer to me then Cyberpunk, Forspoken, Hogwarts Legacy, GTA 5, FIFA games, Battlefield, COD or any other AAA that has pretty graphics but the game itself sucks There are exception like Red Dead Redemption 2, Ghostrunner, Witcher 3. But from the point I've realized I'd rather have a good time with the game then just look at pretty pixels, that's where the games became fun for me again. And I have and RTX 3060TI as well
@synitarthrax56188 ай бұрын
@@mariobroro I don't make graphics my sole litmus test for games but it's a part of the judging process and for some games it's a major part of it. For instance, I wouldn't play Old School Runescape because the graphics stand out but most games have good enough graphics where this point is low on the list. When it comes to GW2, I don't like the art style because it breaks immersion for me and the gameplay style isn't enough to overcome this. For me that is. Everyone is different and looks for different things. I guess this is why there are so many games instead of just one.
@mariobroro8 ай бұрын
@@synitarthrax5618 from the way you stated like how I quoted above i assumed you meant that you don't like the game cause it doesn't challenge your graphic card meaning that you want Next Gen Graphics. No problem if the art style and direction isn't for you. I can understand that and wouldn't had anything to say, the choice is yours.
@synitarthrax56188 ай бұрын
@@mariobroro Well, the way I wrote my post would make it seem that way. I guess it was more tongue in cheek than anything else but you make a great point about game play vs pure graphics. I think they go hand in hand when choosing a game to play long term which is what MMOs ... if they're good ... are made for. When I/we choose games we take all these things into account and each person has their priorities. We're good!
@Rap-gq1fy5 ай бұрын
I disagree with BDO being pay 2 win tho, its more pay for convenience. Ive reached 760 gs without paying for anything other than a tent. WoW and Lodt Ark is a lot more p2w imo
@86Corvus5 ай бұрын
Pay for convenience is pay to win too.
@turamnab2 ай бұрын
How are you gonna pair WoW and LA together when talking about p2w? BDO is 1000x more p2w* that WoW and it's not even close.
@Rap-gq1fy2 ай бұрын
@@turamnab bud the fact that you have to pay every month to play WoW is already insane. I have end game gear in BDO and havent paid a single penny (got the game for free too).
@turamnab2 ай бұрын
@@Rap-gq1fy That doesn't disprove my point at all.
@Rap-gq1fy2 ай бұрын
@@turamnab it does
@johnweig46679 ай бұрын
Why do you make different channels? What is the advantage?
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
Difference audience. This channel is for everyone interested in mmos but not everyone cares about ashes of creation news
@aleedocious7 ай бұрын
show gameplay footage, not cinematics! Jesus!
@jayoddity7 ай бұрын
MMO gameplay is often a little boring, but it's a fair point to try and show a bit
@ADesertVoice9 ай бұрын
er correction, MOST of the people don't like ANIMATION CANCELLING in ESO when it becomes a REQUIREMENT for end game raids for DPS measurement crap. Don't promote this shitty ESO game until they fix this issue and not call it a "feature". Having said this though and having played ESO to end game and having over 1000+ attribute points, the leveling up process is actually fun. It's the end game that ESO has a HUGE problem with and their constant shitty "rebalancing" of the game every fucking 3 months and you have to redo EVERYTHING over again bullshit. Also for Albion Online, you call BDO P2W LOL, Albion is so much more P2W than BDO. BDO has toned down their P2W by a LOT and you can actually progress now without having to P2W at all. Also, BDO's P2W is about getting more chances to enhance your gear by paying more $$$ but it doesn't GUARANTEE success...so it is still P2W BUT with hard limitation put on by your own luck with RNG. Albion is straight up buy to get power. You didn't mention that at all when you mentioned Albion.
@chadlineage9 ай бұрын
what strike me most what most people are saying is that MMORPG GENRA IS DEAD, TOO MUCH GRINDING is REAL, the P2W aspect is obnoxiously horrible, you get bored easily. mmorpg has always been about the community vibes and gameplay…. while waiting for a really good one i hope dragons dogma 2 will be suffice if not Bg3 is there anyway…
@luismatheu44969 ай бұрын
Gw2 is a Master piece. Is that simple
@samuelflores35744 ай бұрын
Far from it
@Priestleyguy9 ай бұрын
TOP VIDEO !
@disliked13906 ай бұрын
There's nothing good man. Even FF is a chore to play after a while. Bleh.
@El_Eduardo985 ай бұрын
Sherwood Dungeon
@kyleyu95439 ай бұрын
Umm I dont think BDO is the most P2W in this list. You can progress and compete against players being completely F2P. I personally only paid money for outfits. I think BDO is more Pay for convenience rather than P2W
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
Yeah I can't judge that very easily
@TaylorShuffleАй бұрын
Lol I see mfs herr saying they have 650 on a game THE DIDNT LIKE 😂😂😂 bro wtf. People too spoiled. I have 200 hours on thr games I LOVE THE MOST. Some ppl literally live for the game and I dont think a game like that will ever exist. Well, Albion gets close if you want to work in a mmo lol
@Gl0wStickss9 ай бұрын
Lost ark is garbo. Combat is great tho
@SSrealdota6 ай бұрын
New world in the list ? so all of this list is just a joke.
@hirotv26217 ай бұрын
Another year, same list 🥲
@paulovaz16884 ай бұрын
Gw2 the Best .
@zeid98289 ай бұрын
Ahh the classic impression of BDO "heavily p2w". True if it was around 2018-2020. A lot has changed already.
@blacksabbath25599 ай бұрын
No. P2w and grinding
@falsie.Ай бұрын
it still p2w tho. Buying costume for cron
@cyborg71629 ай бұрын
Nice video thanks, FF14 extension will bring a really appreciated overall graphic update, cant wait to see it in game
@jayoddity9 ай бұрын
Indeed, looking forward to that
@Krosselhoff8 ай бұрын
GW2 wins easily. Why? I can play it on my freakin Office Laptop which hasnt got a GPU. I really dont know how this stuff works but it runs smooth with 60fps. wvw/pvp and huge world events with 100+ players.. No problem. This game will run fine on a tomato. Absolutely gorgeous.
@shaunanigans33647 ай бұрын
yep
@P0w3rsl4v39 ай бұрын
BDO really isn't pay to win for a few reasons. Yes, there are niceties you can get to help from the store but they aren't really game changing. More % xp, or having repairs in the open world, etc. You can buy some things off the store and sell them in the market but this would take a TON of money given what those items sell for and what the cost is for the best gear. So in a sense, you could drop thousands of dollars over like 6 months and gear up one character. So while that's pay two win, it's soo much money I doubt many are doing it. Also, you cannot trade silver (in game currency) with other players which completely nukes gold selling. Lastly, the market pices are capped mins and maxes, so no whales can control the market like they can in say WoW or GW2 which also pretty much elminates the incentive for gold sellers to grind out items and sell them on the market.
@relaxingsessions53259 ай бұрын
@jayoddity Yes, here! I'd say WOW or any game that have gold selling in real life is much worse than BDO, that is why, play the game, research more to know.
@billy_cross9 ай бұрын
No offense dude but almost every MMORPG whether it has traditional tab targeting or action combat has a lock on system. Tab targeting isn’t about not having the target every time tab targeting is about how you select what your targeting literally tied to the tab key is where it got its name. It started in Alam online you hit tab tab tab and tell the target you want to heal or attack is your target and then you let go your spell and then you hit last target to keep hitting that same target Tara the grandfather of action combat has the same function Target whatever it is and by the way you didn’t have to use the tap key in Alam online you could literally point your practical at something and then release a spell and then keep hitting last target at that and the spells of gone that target right but in a big fight where you’re trying to get, you know on exactly the right target and people are moving around. It was easier to tap through targets what you got good at it you could just have that tab and tell your target was highlighted, and then you started healing them or casting spouts against them. Whatever it is you’re doing, or attacking them with your bow or or whatever in tear of the grandfather, they acknowledge grandfather of action combat. I played it on console never on PC. I don’t know what key it was but on consul you lock on the target by pushing down on the mouse button, and it keeps you facing towards the target all of your spells and abilities go on that target Until you change it it’s still targeting there’s literally no action involved action combat situations where you have to target each and every spell and or in fact, they usually are very directional like if you’re using me you gotta be facing right towards your target. Otherwise you’re swinging your sword will miss that’s action combat games like BDO or not anyway action combat most of what you do is AOE and even when it isn’t you still have to target the first time And then once to target, everything goes off on that target. It’s easy to switch because you just click on another target. You’re still getting a lock on every one of these games has a lock on except some of the really weak ones when New World was being developed and it was nothing but a PVP sandbox survival game it had true action combat. I don’t know what the combats like now, but I remember watching the videos where people are running around basically everybody’s the same running around bashing with an ax, and if you slung and the person wasn’t right in front of you, you didn’t hit them that action combat if I can release a spell an ability or swing my weapon and hit him regardless of what direction I’m facing it ain’t action combat. It’s just a hybrid version of tap targeting.
@Wellshem8 ай бұрын
Press enter buddy
@addadsoids89599 ай бұрын
im gonna stick with NW, the combat/pvp is too much fun even with all the quirks the game has.
@NUCLEARxREDACTED5 ай бұрын
Black desert online? A game so awful, created by such terrible greedy devs, it taints any "MMO list" it is in.