What Nobody Understands About LE SSERAFIM's Sakura

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KOOKIELIT

KOOKIELIT

11 күн бұрын

The story of Sakura is quite tragic and especially considering the unnecessary and insane hate that she's got this year!
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@BELIEVER78989
@BELIEVER78989 10 күн бұрын
Kookielit you also have a hand in throwing more hate on Sakura, remember how you unnecessarily released so many videos on her and her singing, don't be a saint now all of a sudden💀
@PlatyMadness
@PlatyMadness 10 күн бұрын
I think people who lack brain activity are the ones who interpret the vids as hate rather than a rational narration of facts.
@digitaldiary_ofdia
@digitaldiary_ofdia 9 күн бұрын
you are so real for that
@user-xd8tg1nq2g
@user-xd8tg1nq2g 9 күн бұрын
Probably feared to be sued
@umadivyasri1930
@umadivyasri1930 9 күн бұрын
they told the issues in the kpop indusrtries for the international fans
@NIKINIKI_9
@NIKINIKI_9 9 күн бұрын
Kookielit does this...one day throwing shade on artists, one day turning around and making fans villains...😂
@KpopFanAndStanForLife
@KpopFanAndStanForLife 10 күн бұрын
Sakura has done EVERY single career tbh😭😭😭
@kaereddds
@kaereddds 10 күн бұрын
even wrestling LOL 😭
@KamenRider808
@KamenRider808 10 күн бұрын
SHE HAD MANY LIVES
@IIISONICSTUDIO
@IIISONICSTUDIO 9 күн бұрын
Fr
@_Wonnielvrs
@_Wonnielvrs 5 күн бұрын
SHE IS LITERALLY THE BARBIE OF K-POP 😭😭😭
@12_4ever
@12_4ever 10 күн бұрын
As a fearnot and wiz*one,i get it, criticize them,tell them they're not good at singing,but don't bully them. It reminds me of Garam's case; she was involved into a bullying scandal, people called her a bully for standing up for her friend (and she was fucking innocent),yet they were the same people who bullied her. Same with Sakura, yet this time she isn't accused of bullying. She isn't incredible in singing,but she's practicing,and she's giving her all. As they said in their song,"find the good parts".
@Daughte.of.God1
@Daughte.of.God1 6 күн бұрын
frrrrr
@DX49hoyo
@DX49hoyo 6 күн бұрын
Frr but like le sserafim shouldve trained longer so none of this stuff wouldve happened
@_Wonnielvrs
@_Wonnielvrs 5 күн бұрын
This is worded so well especially the good parts bad parts reference
@DearlyBeloved652
@DearlyBeloved652 9 күн бұрын
Kookielit kissing Sakura's butt after doing several videos attacking her. 😂 I still hope they get sued.
@kayubakar1127
@kayubakar1127 4 күн бұрын
just gather the receipt guys. Just gather the receipt that kookielit had blood in their hands of the downfall of idols
@sprotte-lmao-3028
@sprotte-lmao-3028 10 күн бұрын
i feel bad for sakura tho she isn't the greatest singer she does not deserve all the hate
@cherryvanils
@cherryvanils 10 күн бұрын
fr people didn't understand that all of the idols worked hard to get to their point. their popularity costs a lot and it's not all about money
@SeaDanceDream
@SeaDanceDream 10 күн бұрын
People are evil bullies. There’s no excuse for anyone to treat her badly. They have never met her. They don’t know what people go through because they don’t care. Hope she can brush it off. 🪷 Edit: Why don’t people bully the judges and c.e.o.’s who make the actual decisions? Oh I’ll answer that….it’s because they are cowards. They go for who they KNOW can’t really fight back. 🙄🗿🤌🥁
@Serena-Vanderwoodsen
@Serena-Vanderwoodsen 10 күн бұрын
You’re just as bad as her then. This women made up an excuse saying that the reason why she’s so bad at singing was bc her group is a rookie despite her being in the industry for over 5yrs. I wonder if you’d have the same energy if she was idk, a customer service worker and had been working for 10yrs and she gave you a bad service and said “oh sorry, I’ve only been working here for 10yrs!! 🤭 😅”
@kulearsie3527
@kulearsie3527 10 күн бұрын
@@Serena-Vanderwoodsen damn ur the bad one here
@kulearsie3527
@kulearsie3527 10 күн бұрын
@@Serena-Vanderwoodsen 1, It's her company's problem 2, YES Le Serrafim is not that good at singing but they still don't deserve all this hate. Criticism & hate are different and you guys keep saying "This is criticism" while it's very obviously HATE
@isei92
@isei92 9 күн бұрын
I have one rule, if I don't like the band or any aspect of it, I don't listen, I don't follow, I don't HATE!
@laeticialana
@laeticialana 6 күн бұрын
Exactly! I do this with Stray Kids, so why can't the haters do this with Le sserafim?
@deanab-se5op
@deanab-se5op 5 күн бұрын
Me with YG groups.
@HallelSpitzer
@HallelSpitzer 10 күн бұрын
Personally I think the problem with her vocals are Hybe not giving her lines that are in her vocal range. She has a very Jpop voice and always gets low notes in LE SSERAFIM.
@MrRdlv
@MrRdlv 9 күн бұрын
I'm a sakura follower since 2014. She can't sing in any range
@vixxexo6855
@vixxexo6855 9 күн бұрын
I think that is more true to Yunjin. Yunjin is classical trained singer and is stronger in higher notes. Whenever she sings higher notes she sounds good, but she struggles with low notes. Hybe should give Le Sserafim songs in notes that suits the members.
@justicedinosaur7302
@justicedinosaur7302 8 күн бұрын
wtf is a jpop voice do you even listen to jpop? It's much more diverse than kpop
@Yunjin___
@Yunjin___ 7 күн бұрын
@@MrRdlvshe does so stop lying in the past she was pretty acceptable but now it is a different story
@Yunjin___
@Yunjin___ 7 күн бұрын
@@MrRdlvshe does so stop lying in the past she was pretty acceptable but now it is a different story
@jns.rns2
@jns.rns2 10 күн бұрын
Aespa got hated for lip syncing, the hate immediately stopped after they performed live. LS can do the same, that's the best counterpunch they can give.
@JohnSmith762A11B
@JohnSmith762A11B 10 күн бұрын
Often singers and groups on-stage do not have quality monitoring mixes, this can throw even the best singers as they cannot hear themselves properly. So I would say if this is going to be done LS should work with top quality sound and mixing persons at the venue during rehearsal to make sure the group hear themselves and the track correctly.
@user-lesserafim0502
@user-lesserafim0502 9 күн бұрын
Aespa was hated for lip-syncing, similar to how Sakura was criticized. It's ironic because those fans know how it feels to be attacked by antis, yet they are now attacking others. The harassment is at its peak
@aesserafim585
@aesserafim585 9 күн бұрын
exactly, she improved her dancing so much so all she needs to do is get better at singing
@Jenorationn
@Jenorationn 9 күн бұрын
@@user-lesserafim0502 lip syncing and bad singing is very different lol, and the hate was mostly at 2022 for aespa when they have already proved their live singing multiple times
@JuntiGamno
@JuntiGamno 9 күн бұрын
@rahat5755
@rahat5755 5 күн бұрын
Stop Crying about She was a J-POP idol before and J-POP training system and K-POP training system are so different……. Firstly what’s wrong in being J-POP idol? You think J-POP idols are not capable? Secondly Your K-POP copied/ get inspired from J-POP for idol training system and other stuffs, so learn to respect the OG! Thirdly if Sakura can’t sing then why Source Music / HYBE or whatever signed her!? Blame the company first to signed someone like her, Why are you blaming her? why you’ve problem with her being Japanese idol previously! I think K-POP (Both Korean & Non-Korean) fans just Hate Japanese idols that’s the issue ….
@mercifulirera252
@mercifulirera252 10 күн бұрын
She doesn't deserve it. For real. But Kookielit's hypocrisy is unbelievable, first she posted a video bringing her down and now that Source Music got serious she's posting this. Kookielit could have done better and posted this first
@ndakkutauk5077
@ndakkutauk5077 6 күн бұрын
Pretty sure this channel is run by a whole company like that one channel that spills tea in Hollywood. The style and voice is the exact same. They gain profit from the videos, and more than once has already caught stealing contents from other actual indie channels. So obviously they would make this sort of video cuz they don't wanna risk getting sued by SoMu. If small channels are getting sued, then big channels like this aren't an exception. But yeah, only real fans understand the story of Sakura, definitely not channels like this.
@ntz7358
@ntz7358 6 күн бұрын
@@ndakkutauk5077do you have any independent channel recommendations??
@amairan5781
@amairan5781 5 күн бұрын
Lmao exactly!!!! The hypocrisy is astounding
@Vipershorts969
@Vipershorts969 4 күн бұрын
double standard living = kookielit
@NoobGaming-ny1kc
@NoobGaming-ny1kc 6 күн бұрын
Are you here to ruin J-POP’s reputation or what ? Why don’t you just stay with your own field of discussion - which is K-POP! You don’t have to discover the system of J-POP, cause you’re indirectly disrespectful towards J-POP artists and Japanese Music Industry, Japan doesn’t focus on making Fashion Models nor Brand Ambassadors, so they don’t need overhyped and overrated promotions, LOL! Japan Produces Raw Talents and Top Class Vocalists ! You need to be a Good & Talented Singer/Vocalists/performer to survive in the Japanese Music industry, that’s why all the talentless or less talented people ( who want to be an idol ) move to South Korea where mostly visual matters (Not Naming them directly cause You know them all for good)
@doesntmatter-oz7zr
@doesntmatter-oz7zr 6 күн бұрын
True 💯
@rahat5755
@rahat5755 6 күн бұрын
Totally agree ‼️
@TheRealSenpai
@TheRealSenpai 6 күн бұрын
true
@Kts-q3n
@Kts-q3n 6 күн бұрын
true AF
@kaede_kanzaki
@kaede_kanzaki 10 күн бұрын
In the next comeback HYBE should listen to the criticism and start giving groups songs in their vocal tone cause perfect night and smart was perfect for them
@vixxexo6855
@vixxexo6855 9 күн бұрын
I know Yunjin can sing, and was shocked to her how bad she performed in Coachella. Hybe did Yunjin dirty by giving her lines out of her range. Yunjin is a classical trained singer and sounded good in Produce 48. How can Hybe make someone that talented sound so bad?
@garamisinnocent
@garamisinnocent 8 күн бұрын
​@@vixxexo6855her vocals have been regressed compared to fearless era
@miadavis4837
@miadavis4837 6 күн бұрын
@@vixxexo6855 Yunjin had mic problems at Coachella. If you watch the whole video and listen for it you'll definitely notice it. Her mic was really low, to the point that when she yells "Make some F@cking noise" she only sounds a tiny bit louder than Chaewon did when she was just singing normally. So it seemed to me like Yunjin was trying to half yell just to be heard and, because of that, she would go off-key and certain points. She wasn't even the only one that had that issue. Kazuha's mic also sounded very low and Lana Del Rey who was the headliner for that day even had that same issue. I do agree that they sometimes give her lines that are too low for her but most of them are in what seems to be her comfortable lower range judging by her "When We Were Young" cover. The most annoying thing is that there are so many videos of Yunjin singing live including her just taking random cover requests during lives but haters point at that one performance and say she can't sing.
@sabihasaba2305
@sabihasaba2305 10 күн бұрын
sakura is actually a very talented person but the concept of the group doesn't suit her she gives more bubbly and girlcrush vibe i hope they release more album more suitable for her ..... she gives me very cutesy innocent vibe.... love her
@SheSmilesHeLoves
@SheSmilesHeLoves 6 күн бұрын
lsfm suits her perfectly. they are literally girl crush. they have cute songs too…. its not that difficult to google really.
@2xcrzkxk
@2xcrzkxk 5 күн бұрын
Perfect Night was like HER concept & one of my favorites. They made her styling look like an anime fairy princess & it was gorgeou! Such a great vibe she fits so well!
@flobrez2470
@flobrez2470 9 күн бұрын
I hear a lot of these companies make the idols sing out of their range. They want everyone to be sopranos, but that’s just not possible. I wonder if that’s the case with her. They do that to the boys groups as well.
@brianlittrell797
@brianlittrell797 10 күн бұрын
It is HYBE'S job to give them proper training. HYBE isn't doing their job and also having delusions about stepping on Aespa. Train your idols properly before having any ridiculous and childish thoughts of stepping on anyone. 😂
@yyby_
@yyby_ 10 күн бұрын
fr every hybe docu and ex trainees and staff say that trainees are just expected to be alone 24/7 and improve that way. like..?????
@rubyariaw
@rubyariaw 10 күн бұрын
“Crushing aespa” its just business talk, everyone wants to crush everyone and be at the top
@MrRdlv
@MrRdlv 9 күн бұрын
Training can't get you far if you are talentless in singing
@brianlittrell797
@brianlittrell797 9 күн бұрын
@@MrRdlv Many persons sound bad when they sing before they are trained. I think with good training Sakura would sound slightly good.
@MrRdlv
@MrRdlv 9 күн бұрын
@@brianlittrell797 how about trying it yourself? If you sound good after at least a month of training, then your hypothesis is correct. But from my experience, no.
@CARL_093
@CARL_093 10 күн бұрын
Sakura is trying her best and she does not deserved this treatment
@salembejaoui1880
@salembejaoui1880 10 күн бұрын
Well her best isn't even that good🤷‍♂️
@KamenRider808
@KamenRider808 10 күн бұрын
​@@salembejaoui1880In your opinion
@kayczennie
@kayczennie 10 күн бұрын
Haters just wanted someone to hate. Aespa received a lot of hate for their previous coachella perf too for their performance being lackluster, lazy and boring which is definitely not true but ofc people will always find an excuse to hate on someone.
@icekingjames8791
@icekingjames8791 10 күн бұрын
I feel bad for her 😢
@abolakeshowmustafa4279
@abolakeshowmustafa4279 9 күн бұрын
She is my favorite Japanese KPOP idol. She is a legend in JPOP!🙂
@imzaina
@imzaina 7 күн бұрын
Are you trying to hid all those stupid statements and hate video's you make abt her by this one videos like, probable scared to be sued by somu or just got no content to make!! You guys can except wonyong, minji and all but not sakura like seriosuly she did great at Coachella.
@miadavis4837
@miadavis4837 6 күн бұрын
This is a fact. This channel has been a toxic Dive/Wonyoung stan and a Sakura anti for years now but suddenly they come out with this? Seems like someone's scared after the Sojang vs. Wonyoung case.
@imzaina
@imzaina 6 күн бұрын
She even supported newjeans and mhj in that all mess they created at hybe!! Knowing both side have faults she only supported nj and mhj while shading lsrfm for no reason like ador's ceo🙄
@miadavis4837
@miadavis4837 6 күн бұрын
@@imzaina Also, every time they do a video that contains something negative about Lesserafim they always use a picture of Sakura only. It's so obvious.
@fuzailshahid958
@fuzailshahid958 10 күн бұрын
Although sakura is not the best singer in the group but u can see she is trying hard so please don't hate her afterall she is a human like us 😢
@Sheepy16able
@Sheepy16able 9 күн бұрын
I don`t think she tries hard. In all the statements she did so far she was just complaining and finding excuses
@fuzailshahid958
@fuzailshahid958 9 күн бұрын
@@Sheepy16able but still gave her a chance 😐
@bolinsun9565
@bolinsun9565 10 күн бұрын
Yes, her vocal skills need improvement, but anyone who works hard towards their goals doesn't deserve that level of hate, especially someone who has the courage to go to a foreign country to do so.
@SBBunny93
@SBBunny93 10 күн бұрын
But that’s the problem. She isn’t working hard, or rather, not given an opportunity to work harder/train. Their schedules are too busy for her to find time to actually PRACTICE. She has always had a jam packed schedule. You can’t improve without practicing. Learning a new single, recording it, and performing it is not genuine training/practice with your vocals especially if they are 85% recorded “live vocals” when you’re performing. And ultimately that’s the biggest comment about her. It still doesn’t excuse the discourse and negative remarks towards her but she isn’t working hard to improve at all but that isn’t her fault it’s her companies for not seeing the comments and allowing her adequate time and trainers.
@bolinsun9565
@bolinsun9565 10 күн бұрын
@@SBBunny93 Okay I think I got what you're saying and agree with you, but when I said "work", I didn't only mean "practice", but also all the other activities involved in their busy schedules, including learning, recording and performing new songs as you mentioned. Yes, you must be a hard worker to even have a chance to debut in a kpop group, and that's why I always believe no idol deserves hate or contempt if they have never done outrageous things like bullying, discrimination, or whatever some former Bigbang member did. Constructive criticism will always be part of idols' lives for a good reason, but that only consists of a small minority of the negative remarks some of them receive
@srideout91
@srideout91 10 күн бұрын
I’m not a fan of her but people saying that she cannot dance are delusional. That girl works her butt off to keep up with the rest of the members and if you look back from her former group to this group, you will see a huge improvement. But that being said, the girl cannot sing to save her life. And the only reason people have an issue with her she put out after Coachella performance making every excuse in the book, the girl is talented, but she cannot sing to save her life. I’ve heard a wrap a few times and she’s decent at it. Maybe they can consider making her the rapper of the group.
@dsibrbidll7752
@dsibrbidll7752 7 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter anymore what the girls will put out even if they improve. The damage is done and the hate towards them won't stop until they get out from the spotlight
@JENNIEfreakinKIM
@JENNIEfreakinKIM 10 күн бұрын
And I STILL love and support Kkura❤
@desertdwellerpete
@desertdwellerpete 10 күн бұрын
I LOVE YOU SAKURA
@forjuvie
@forjuvie 7 күн бұрын
i love sakura whatever anyone say.
@ohmy1232
@ohmy1232 10 күн бұрын
I as a wota personally hate how many people discredit kkuras popularity in Japan, she is so popular there and one of the most popular in her group also her talent in hkt48 is so good, she now gets called a bad vocalist and "fans" blame it on the Japanese industry saying they don’t train vocals when it’s all source music’s problem, she is a great singer but she sing high range way better, her voice obviously fits the Japanese idol and also iz*one due to them being higher. Kkura also gets described by former members as very hard working, she works so hard and people just decide to throw her into the mud. This isn’t her fault it’s source music, they are the ones making lower set songs to the girls, kkura has a Japanese way of singing which ofc after years is hard to get rid of and when she was in iz*one their songs are so high that it hurts my vocals cords trying to sing in the same key as them, so source music using songs with lower keys is just setting these girls and mostly kkura up.
@AFish2297
@AFish2297 7 күн бұрын
surely tho.... if you've been training and getting exposure for how many years.... and the constant repetition of how hard she's working... shouldn't she have learned to at least have stable vocals.... or be able to sing le sserafim songs, which are not technically difficult songs to sing... what good is it to keep saying how hard someone works when there's no evidence of it, like no hate but surely there would be some progress, if the progress is how she is at the moment, then I can't imagine what she sounded like at the start...
@Allure.Entertainment
@Allure.Entertainment 9 күн бұрын
What she went through is nothing compared to her former member Garam in the whole 20years.
@onlyjochaa
@onlyjochaa 10 күн бұрын
she doesn't have the best singing abilities but that doesn't mean she deserves this hate smh. cancel HYBE
@Suriel213
@Suriel213 10 күн бұрын
Cancel the knutz and inutz and all other delulus that are throwing all that hate. Yes, constructive criticism is valid, but what they're doing is straight up bullying at this point.
@PlatyMadness
@PlatyMadness 10 күн бұрын
hahah the bts army wont let this happen
@pepsi3595
@pepsi3595 10 күн бұрын
@@PlatyMadnessfr bts army lovee driding hybe's mediaplay
@PlatyMadness
@PlatyMadness 9 күн бұрын
@@Suriel213 How do you even cancel trolls and haters? LOL
@PlatyMadness
@PlatyMadness 9 күн бұрын
@@pepsi3595 Yep Hybe is untouchable because of that army
@naomiarmy
@naomiarmy 10 күн бұрын
I understood the criticism for their vocals but it became clear that they were looking for someone to harass. They left wonyoung who I also believe did not deserve hate and started attacking lesserafim treating them like national criminals but actual criminals get a slap on the wrist. Netizens are disgusting instead of them to focus on their own problems they hate on a girl that is prettier, smarter and richer than them. I will forever encourage her to continue pursuing her dreams
@brianlittrell797
@brianlittrell797 10 күн бұрын
Remember when their favorite hobby was attacking Jennie? They always want someone to hate because of how they feel about themselves. They grow bored after a while and move on to a new target after a while. Unhappy people.
@flobrez2470
@flobrez2470 9 күн бұрын
@@brianlittrell797 exactly and Jennie is still getting hate.The girl breathes wrong and they attack her. They are so against bullying, but then they turn around and bully these young idols. Bunch of hypocrites.
@brianlittrell797
@brianlittrell797 9 күн бұрын
@@flobrez2470 I don't think the hate bothers Jennie anymore. I think it did at first. She and her members seem happy and confident. But newer and less successful idols are more likely to be upset.
@poltergeistducs2948
@poltergeistducs2948 10 күн бұрын
they cant call out they fav so they focus on sakura. i mean they cant call our chaewon, kazuha, yunjin, eunchae. they think sakura is the sole responsible of all of this.
@Anna-ty9bt
@Anna-ty9bt 9 күн бұрын
Miyawaki Sakura they could never make me hate you ❤
@JohnSmith762A11B
@JohnSmith762A11B 10 күн бұрын
I feel sorry for people who get drawn into this industry at a young age when all they see is fun and glamour and success and popularity without understanding these downsides like online mobbings, antis, stalkers, risk of suicide, low chances of success, anxiety, unrealistic beauty standards etc. Parents need to try to stay involved as their children navigate these potential pitfalls if they do choose to pursue their K-pop dreams.
@startrilogy
@startrilogy 10 күн бұрын
We have to stop normalizing massive hate trains in the music industry, yes they're idols and their job is to perform, but no you don't have the right to publicly/privately insult/discriminate them unless it's constructive criticism. If you're not a fan just keep minding your own business instead of disturbing others'.
@wannabe-d9p
@wannabe-d9p 5 күн бұрын
Hohoho…wait until they win for their next comeback..arrgghhh i can’t wait to see them suffering agin >-< hahaah
@rhenzernieta2914
@rhenzernieta2914 10 күн бұрын
Correction: Sakura Rank was actually 1st since after the rigged voting investigation it was shown Sakura was Rank 1st while Jang Wonyoung Rank is 7th not 1st also adding if it weren't for the Vote Manipulation half of the members of IZ*ONE are actually Japanese plus the this was actually the Final Ranking that the court revealed after the investigation: 1. Miyawaki Sakura 2. Mizayaki Miho 3. Lee Chaeyeon 4. Kang Hyewon 5. La Gaeun 6. Takeuchi Miyu 7. Jang Wonyoung 8. Shiroma Miru 9. Yabuki Nako 10. Shitao Mui 11. Honda Hitomi 12. Kwon Eunbi 13. Han Chowon 14. Ahn Yoojin 15. Kim Minjoo 16. Choi Yena 17. Takahashi Yuri 18. Jo Yuri 19. Kim Chaewon 20. Park Haeyoon
@PlatyMadness
@PlatyMadness 10 күн бұрын
Whoa Chaewon is actually just 19th place
@rhenzernieta2914
@rhenzernieta2914 10 күн бұрын
@@PlatyMadness Yup but the Producer push her and the reasoning was quite stupid and very much disrespectful
@princecoffee2349
@princecoffee2349 9 күн бұрын
Fandom's delusional ranking, which has not been released by the court and will not be able to disclose its source.
@yusufg.1700
@yusufg.1700 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the REAL ranking. Can you do the Idol School version?
@miadavis4837
@miadavis4837 6 күн бұрын
@@princecoffee2349 Yes and no. The ranking OP used came from a post that was made on the night of the PD48 finale by someone claiming that the results were all rigged. So, when the truth came out a year or so later, a lot of people took that post as word of God. However, it is provably false at least in part based on what we actually know about the situation. The Korean trainees that received compensation were Chowon and Gaeun which proves that both were supposed to debut, but Chowon is ranked 13th in that list so it can't be accurate. Also, the companies that got in trouble were: Starship, 8D Creative and Woolim. This tells us that their trainees were the ones that benefitted from the rigging. Hyewon was the only trainee from 8D so she's obviously one of the contestants that were rigged in. Additionally, Eunbi was very popular so it's suspected that only Chaewon was rigged in from Woolim. With Yujin and Wonyoung it's confusing. Some people speculate that Yujin got edged out during the finale but a lot of people believe that both were included in the original lineup but only Wonyoung's spot was rigged. This is because Sakura was insanely popular during PD48 and no one could believe that she didn't place first. Starship is also suspected of having a long history with rigging. After it was revealed that one member from IOI was rigged in I think it's pretty unanimous that that member must have been Yunjeong since she was the 11th place and also got some evil editing right before the finale but still made it somehow while the other members were trainees that no one was shocked got in. Additionally, it's suspected that more Japanese trainees should have actually been included in the lineup but we don't know because their agencies didn't sue. So that's kind of where we're at. So, yes, it is not the 'real' ranking but it's also not something that the fandom randomly created. It's mistaken as the real ranking because it was attached to a post that accurately announced that the voting was rigged way before that was proven true.
@Etheldreda_
@Etheldreda_ 9 күн бұрын
I'm still gonna make sure I go to one of their concerts when they come the states.
@jujoonline8248
@jujoonline8248 10 күн бұрын
From what I understand the hate after the oncore was mostly just criticism with of course your fraction of antis and trolls, as it always is. Overtime as more people heard about it random people just started hating on her or abandoning the group, but the real kicker started with the comment from her that basicly said that she doesn't listen to anything of this controversy. That's when the hate really started because she also shut down any constructive criticism and incentive to work on their vocals! She doesn't deserve hate but that was really weird of her and kind of let me drop her as a person. Even though as a seasoned Idol she has the right to defend herself from haters the root cause of this all was still kind of her fault for not improving to the industys standards (which are already pretty low at this point). It doesn't really matter how hard your life was, how long and good your training was and how much effort you put in, if you don't come out a decent singer in the end, because as a singer you should be able to hold a note while standing still. (Sometimes mistakes happen and that's ok but if it's all the time it's not a mistake anymore) Results don't care for effort when you're past the starting point. Effort only counts in training. And I hope they take the constructive criticism apart from the hate and build on it to become better artists. I must say though that LS did start to improve their vocals recently so I hope the best for them and check in on their live singing skills again in the future
@alicopacu
@alicopacu 10 күн бұрын
I mean aren't videos like these contributing to the hate these idols are getting 😒 content farms be here influencing fans more than idols 🤡
@BG0178
@BG0178 10 күн бұрын
Well i dont think she deserves to be idol (since she lack of skills) but i dont support hate comments. From her story, what i see is a girl who is ambitious enough to shine among other 47 members. I also cant imagine how hard is this and i believe not everyone can achieve this. She got talent but just not in singing i guess.
@tashasmithy5795
@tashasmithy5795 8 күн бұрын
Sadly once hate trains start they never stop. She’ll be bullied until she retires.
@TsChryssa
@TsChryssa 7 күн бұрын
I can't even remember how many times I've commented on your videos to defend the girls.
@SBBunny93
@SBBunny93 10 күн бұрын
I’d say it’s ultimately coming down to her company now. She has consistently had a jam packed schedule since the start of her entire career. You can’t improve when you don’t have TIME to practice/train and not only that but adequate teachers helping you correct and understand your mistakes, as well as improving your technique. K-POP is a singles market and it moves quickly. They are moving in my opinion a little too fast. You can clearly see HYBE/Source cares more about capitalizing on them rather than perfecting them. Maybe if they had a bit more time between all these activities they would actually have time to get in a classroom and hone their craft. If they keep going at the rate they are they are bound to continue receiving hate and improving at a snails pace. You can turn it around with time and dedication, I mean look at Giselle…
@DJSoulbrother
@DJSoulbrother 7 күн бұрын
Back in the day most of the groups singers couldn't really sing, it has grown more from an aesthetic thing to an actual musical thing like it should be over the past decade. Sakura is a sweetheart, the thing with the internet that every dick and harry think they are critics and should "critique" when majority of them are simply jealous. End of the day the lady has put more than enough work in to be deserved to be on the stage. People really need to worry about their own lives before looking at others, don't like her? Move on to something else, she's famous and no doubt has a bit of money these days and perhaps you are wasting your live and energy with all this negative vibe that really isn't going to change anything
@miadavis4837
@miadavis4837 6 күн бұрын
This. I always use Hyeri from Girl's Day as an example because she's someone that was admittedly tone deaf (She actually called herself that) but was still the most popular member of her group. Literally no one criticized her for her singing and, if anything, as the main dancer she got some criticism for not being as good as other main dancers but yet she was (and is to this day) usually hyped up as a good dancer. And now she's super famous as an actress who still sometimes sings randomly during games on variety shows but no one ever mentions the fact that she's a former idol who can't sing at all.
@melisacaceres8740
@melisacaceres8740 5 күн бұрын
I think the problem lies on how there are no strong singers on LSFM. Yeah, there was a tone deaf individual on every group but also a vocal line. And most people defend the other girls over being rookies so all the weight has been put on Sakura. She's the oldest and most experienced. Should she be able to sing her lines? Yes. Does she deserve all the hate? No, no one does. I honestly feel bad for LSFM, they've been thrown to the wolves by the company.
@DJSoulbrother
@DJSoulbrother 5 күн бұрын
@@melisacaceres8740 Exactly, too many will attack the talent themselves especially conceptually when it rarely has anything to do with them, we have seen idols booted from groups for wanting to be more involved in the music. It's the companies who say what is and has always been so. Too many become stans of these companies when they're simple greedy money machines overworking idols out of their youth and health
@SweetlullabyJimin
@SweetlullabyJimin 10 күн бұрын
I feel bad for Sakura and she is the most underrated in Kpop entertainment 😢❤
@syedatamannahossain12
@syedatamannahossain12 10 күн бұрын
Without singing ability, she is overrated. She is nothing but an autotune singer.
@sima_cianea
@sima_cianea 10 күн бұрын
she's extremely overrated lol. Plenty of idols who sing much better than her don't reach success like her
@jangthapa5482
@jangthapa5482 6 күн бұрын
Haters wants some drastic and instant improvement from her but that doesn't happens overnight also they claims her talentless Her vocal were bad but she will improve ..!! Also to survive in kpop industry The standard is too high because of new generation idols most of them are all rounder..!
@_DreamzGaming
@_DreamzGaming 10 күн бұрын
I understand that she doesn't deserve the hatw
@SkittileSkelanimal47
@SkittileSkelanimal47 10 күн бұрын
sakura's resume is unmatched at this point lol
@heyman4590
@heyman4590 7 күн бұрын
Her life story has nothing to do with her lack of musical talent. She just has a terrible problem with finding the right key to sing the right notes.
@bullbae02
@bullbae02 10 күн бұрын
produce 48 sakura was the peak of her telent and sheer hard work.... after that you can say she displayed increasingly disappointing performance never really getting as high as it was during those days.... and this is coming from a long time fan of her idol and game streaming days.
@user-lesserafim0502
@user-lesserafim0502 9 күн бұрын
I never felt that Le Sserafim or Sakura lost popularity. Actually, they are still being talked about, so how could they have lost popularity? They say there are fans who turned their backs on them, but those are just bandwagon netizens or casual K-pop fans who jumped on the trend and hate train. So, it isn't a lot that can create even a 1% drop.
@donaldliden4545
@donaldliden4545 4 күн бұрын
Nothing can make me stop admiring Sakura.I like everything about her.She is a fighter,never giving up her goals.She is ALWAYS there for her members.And she is funny not least also have a really sharp brain.Its alot ppl embarrassing themselves hating on her and other idols nowadays before, when people still has some kind of common sense,if there was a group or song or film or book you didnt like you just let it go and looked for something you like instead.Todays spoiled kids thinks everything in life is there to please just their own demands,even in many cases themselves doesent get much done to feel proud of.Its embarrassing see every public person gets not only a simple comment like "this isnt something for me" Nooo 😐not these crazies ,they start crusades against idols and does their best to come up with sarcastic downgrading comments day out and day in.For what?Probably 99% envy because no matter how "bad" an idol is they know they cant compete with them when it comes to working hard to achieve your dreams .They be sitting in their rooms all spare time surfing commentfields to troll instead of stand up and do something useful of their lifetime
@joeisafreakk
@joeisafreakk 10 күн бұрын
I bet most of the people hating on her couldn't even stand on the stage without pissing themselves and passing out. Sakura is very talented and skilled. It's ridiculous.
@joeisafreakk
@joeisafreakk 10 күн бұрын
I just hope it doesn't end in a tragedy.
@ezrajames0827
@ezrajames0827 10 күн бұрын
lots hater for sakura but i'm still my bias
@hiraamayu4201
@hiraamayu4201 9 күн бұрын
It's all make sense why Japanese young peoples have a dream to be an K-Pop idol. Because until now Japan especially the entertainment sector have "region lock" policies eventhough now Japan slowly open up to the world about their entertainment. I clearly remembered that I used to learnt this kind of case when I still in university and took "Japanese Popular Culture" subject. I took Sakura's case as my own research and example. Anyway Na Goeun now is the member of Purple Kiss, RBW girl group and they already debuted since 2021. Also please support Purple Kiss ❤
@GelelaBashaw
@GelelaBashaw 10 күн бұрын
This is what happens when you want to become something you simply can't be
@BillyWhaler
@BillyWhaler 10 күн бұрын
I support Sakura and LS. they’ve had a rough two year debut to say the least.
@SA-io7ug
@SA-io7ug 5 күн бұрын
when i saw her vedios about those hecky japanese shows I felt so proud of her ,because how far she came . But didnt new about this Woow she really won her life 💗
@tarmin.
@tarmin. 10 күн бұрын
So what?! Cause she worked hard, people should stop criticizing her?! There are thousands of trainees that worked hard and some even harder and didn't even debut. She is famous and amoung top idols. There is no excuse for her. And people will stop criticizing and hating her when she learned how to keep up with her level of fame. It is stupid just because someone worked hard, they can get validation. However, i still believe she was actually good in Coachella. I mean she wasn't ever famous for her live vocal and yet she was second best, even better than the main vocalist.
@yoyoonah
@yoyoonah 7 күн бұрын
Are you pregnant? You remind me of an asian mom ngl
@DianaOsazenaye
@DianaOsazenaye 10 күн бұрын
she really done nothing but talk
@user-lesserafim0502
@user-lesserafim0502 9 күн бұрын
"Most idols do, not just Sakura. It's a case-by-case situation-some idols don't have the popularity, so no one actually cares at all.
@SheSmilesHeLoves
@SheSmilesHeLoves 6 күн бұрын
ok Diane Osazenaye im sure u have done great things with your life too 😂
@spectral__
@spectral__ 10 күн бұрын
Her own statements certainly haven't helped things, but she is very much a product of circumstance. She focused on "aegyo" because that's what got popularity as a Japanese idol in her situation. Already barely any vocal training. Then going from that reality show to HYBE, still very little. It's like the only training she got was for the reality show, which wasn't nearly enough since she was basically starting from scratch. Then HYBE rushed to debut her, and still little vocal training, even tho HYBE has so much money. They were more concerned with debuting the group before New Jeans out of spite than the actual preparedness of the members. Usually groups have YEARS training together before debut. They had months. All HYBE cares about is money. All Bang PD cares about is money. Sick of delusional company stans who think that supporting HYBE helps the groups at all. HYBE does not care about their idols or the fans. Only money. People should actually be caring about the groups they like than the company that bleeds everyone dry.
@miadavis4837
@miadavis4837 6 күн бұрын
Just throwing it out there but I don't believe it was out of spite at all. Given Sakura's age and bargaining power, I would expect that she had some kind of guaranteed debut window included in her contract. They might have also included the same thing in Chaewon's contract. I think Hybe thought it would be fine but then, when NJ got delayed, they had to push forward with LSF's debut anyway. At least this is my guess since Sakura is already the oldest 4th gen idol (as in, she debuted at a later age then anyone else. I know that G-Idle Miyeon at the very least is older than her but Miyeon debuted at 21).
@TaylorLeeKnow
@TaylorLeeKnow 10 күн бұрын
Wow she’s only 6 days older than me
@a.ngChannel
@a.ngChannel 6 күн бұрын
Source Music must regret disband GFRIEND to debut this group.. >.
@sarabeatriz5569
@sarabeatriz5569 3 күн бұрын
Meanwhile gfriend was tanking lmao
@rubenprisco7896
@rubenprisco7896 9 күн бұрын
sakura deserves to be loved and support for her skills because in her young age she became an idol and sakura can sing and the problem is the netezens not her she might be so scared and i wonder what she thingking while she is singing and people should appreciate her efforts if you cant appreciate her efforts you should not leave a bad comment towards her if you dont love her leave her alone idols is just humans like us and sakura is human she is a human being i hope sakura rested well and i hope she never stressed herself in the practice room... sakura they will never make me hate you we love you sakura you did well you did a very good job❤
@kaiyenna3014
@kaiyenna3014 4 күн бұрын
Fearnot already know Kura’s flaws in vocals, however she has amazing character and entertaining as an idol. But Idk why non fans/harers cared too much and expect her to be perfect😢
@AngelKen-bq2kz
@AngelKen-bq2kz 3 күн бұрын
Sakura has achieved something majority of armchair haters can never - being member of popular groups in both Kpop and Jpop, the most popular member of HKT48, being a member of highly popular Izone and now in Lesserafim and she has lucrative brand deals. She don't need any validation from anyone.
@charicetmg1884
@charicetmg1884 9 күн бұрын
I criticized her singing ability despite her 12 yrs of experience being idol but I respect her passion and persuading her dream continuously so I don’t blame her but I blame HYBE for not giving proper vocal training for their idol before debuting its just like sending soldiers to the war without any equipment. Their song is good,stage presences is good,visual and dancing is good too but both the company and idol should work hard on vocal because as a singer if you can’t sing well how much other talent you have you won’t look good so I just hope they take this criticism as their motivation to sing well and to all the ppl don’t hate them or stop bully them🙏
@angel_t3338
@angel_t3338 7 күн бұрын
It’s like what Xuimin of Exo said singing is more important than dancing because without it people will think you’re talentless. I can see what he means by this. Now Sakura isn’t talentless, she has amazing stage presence, she wouldn’t have gotten where she is without it. Her dancing has improved incredibly since I saw her on P48. Is her sing perfect, no, has she gotten better, yes. I do feel like Hybe/Source Music is failing her and the members. The songs the have been given seem deeper than their vocal ranges because we’ve seen them sing at higher vocal ranges and sound fine.
@civilianno.3997
@civilianno.3997 Күн бұрын
Should have sticked to jpop Watched produce 48 because of her followed izone because of her and i was already thinking when she return she will be the no1 idol in japan, she'll be like one of the biggest celeb in japan
@NextStopAntarctica
@NextStopAntarctica 9 күн бұрын
And when idols feel the criticisms get too much and take the ultimate life ending route, those same critics will write how shocked and saddened they are. The hate thrown at these young idols is truly disgusting.
@zuvariyahakim2365
@zuvariyahakim2365 10 күн бұрын
Please don't hate anyone
@zuvariyahakim2365
@zuvariyahakim2365 10 күн бұрын
Love her more and more
@SolarFaith
@SolarFaith 10 күн бұрын
That's very sweet, and true
@JustTheFacts530
@JustTheFacts530 11 сағат бұрын
That sucks for her but she’s not that talented. Just because she has tried really hard for so long doesn’t mean that she is not above criticism
@BErnard-yh4xh
@BErnard-yh4xh 5 күн бұрын
Sakura doing all side quest in her career book LMAO
@imjustherefortheks
@imjustherefortheks 5 күн бұрын
I'm a huge critic of L S because of the extreme bad taste of their choreos and outfits, but is not personal. I love them all, as human beings. I really love them... They are using them as h 0 e s I feel really bad for them, but this whole "We are going to sue you if you talk bad about them" is just a bluff... If they train them properly, they would do OK, but they are just exposing their bodies indecently...
@2xcrzkxk
@2xcrzkxk 5 күн бұрын
A valuable member of her team regardless of what the haters say. She's beautiful & popular, of course there are jealous haters. Idols, especially these days, have crazy people being awful to them nonstop. We should bring back official positions, it would save idols from being considered lacking in areas that they are not 'officially assigned' you know? Give them a buffer for their struggles in certain areas. Her obvious beauty, charm, & charisma is her strength. & as the main visual, she does a fine job since I always find myself gravitating to her fancams regardless of whether or not she dances as well as Chaewon or sings as well as Yunjin. She serves what she serves & it was always good & her stage presence has become exquisite as she has developed it over her career. Now lately I see her stiff & afraid & I am sad. Assholes ruining things. I hope she hears nice words & encouragement from enough FearNots to regain her self-confidence in what she has always been good at.
@MyHandle4455
@MyHandle4455 9 күн бұрын
Sakura is a survivor. The fact that she’s been able to navigate such a shady industry on her own and go from one career height to the next is worthy of respect, especially since half of it was done in a foreign country. Say what you want about her talent but she is a savvy business woman. On top of that it’s obvious she takes care of her juniors, especially Eunchae. And for those that say it’s Hybe’s responsibility to train their artists.. it’s not that black and white. Yes, that’s why they have the trainee system, but when they signed Chaewon and Sakura, it wasn’t for their potential but what they brought to the table now! At this is point in their careers, I’m sure they have barely enough time to keep up with all the choreography, recordings, filmings and performances. Training on top of that would exhaust them. They practice for whatever is next on their schedule not for the sake of training.
@123namme
@123namme 10 күн бұрын
Love you
@HauMun_1lovetacos
@HauMun_1lovetacos 10 күн бұрын
Dont blame Sakura if HYBE actually trained their trainees it would be better. Hybe is mire on the self-taught side
@melaniecaspari8542
@melaniecaspari8542 4 күн бұрын
Sakuraaa iss such a good singer
@honodle7219
@honodle7219 5 күн бұрын
Goddam K-trolls need to be more appreciative they HAVE idols!
@SamaraSalinasSim
@SamaraSalinasSim 9 күн бұрын
Hope they keep legally punishing haters :) Constructive criticism is one thing... the massive hate they received it's on another level.
@Tutworzynicia
@Tutworzynicia 3 күн бұрын
5:09 which one is sakura pls tell me ):
@imnotalex924
@imnotalex924 10 күн бұрын
She seems so sweet and I feel awful for her
@ka1alia
@ka1alia 10 күн бұрын
hiii❤❤❤
@markjullian6346
@markjullian6346 3 күн бұрын
I hope them hating and being toxic contributes to their life career, cuz if not, man they are very imbecile, and just wasted time pointing out bad things to her, when they could've, idk, minded their own business...
@sincerelytaliii
@sincerelytaliii 8 күн бұрын
I think the hate got worst this year because of easy being very disrespectful to religions, plagiarized, and on top of that the yunjin Starbucks situation, chaewons braids. To top that Coachella I honestly don’t think they will be able to comeback from this. I don’t stan lsf but I do hope they are ok
@carlkristoeff3984
@carlkristoeff3984 5 күн бұрын
Somehow BACKLASH AND NEGATIVE COMMENTS IS PART OF EVERY PERSONS LIFE. ITS JUST YOU WHO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT.. STILL I AM ROUTING FOR SAKURA AND THE GROUP....
@jbdeadangel
@jbdeadangel 6 күн бұрын
i've watched produce48 from start to finish. indeed her performance wasn't good enough for A grade. i doubted that the producers were trying to pacify japanese audience. but it is not her fault. one of the japanese contestant told in 1st episode that the style of kpop and what they have been doing in Japan till now was completely different. while kpop focuses on vocal aspects and dancing capabilities, japanese songs were more focused on the singer trying to look as "kawaii" as possible. Sakura trained all her life to look kawaii, and going to produce48 was a completely different ball game for her.
@jeinarsantos6125
@jeinarsantos6125 6 күн бұрын
Slightly different topic, this probably is one of the hardest fall from grace in awhile for a group ngl and it was all due to a mere encore stage that wasn't much thought about until then. Don't get me wrong, it was quite the fumble but no one imagined how much effect it had; now, other groups focused more and showcased their vocal abilities regardless of level which allowed them to thrive................at the expense of LS sadly. Rough waters ahead but a bounceback isn't impossible tho.
@noussaiba2030
@noussaiba2030 6 күн бұрын
The harrassment is sooo bad. I can't wait to see her prove haters wrong.
@rinimarlina2201
@rinimarlina2201 9 күн бұрын
Sakura definetly improved alot in coachella
@rubyariaw
@rubyariaw 10 күн бұрын
allat sad story but at the end of the day she has been singer for YEARS i think decade now and if she still can’t sing decently maybe she shouldn’t hit up the stage anymore.
@allyssaearly-mccullom4964
@allyssaearly-mccullom4964 10 күн бұрын
Honestly she needs to switch companies. Sakura is a talented girl with potential but she lacks freedom to grow in her craft. When producing an idol group their's sometimes a idea of the groups image planed beforehand. The switch from cute to bold style was shocking to see Sakura in, yet she managed it well. The real problem is no one helping her with vocal stamina. It's one thing for a tone of voice to fit a specific genre, it's another to have technique to sing any genre.
@NIKINIKI_9
@NIKINIKI_9 9 күн бұрын
Let's face it...HYBE took in Sakura and Chaewon mainly for their popularity. Talent did not count much. Thus, their rushed debut. If it is quality, we would get vocally talented groups like Baby Monster... ir is hard to fault BM when compared to LS.
@isabella-zr
@isabella-zr 6 күн бұрын
as i said before: ls girlies need to work on their vocals, not just sakura, so the hate train stops once and for all.
@iamweird-ei7s
@iamweird-ei7s 10 күн бұрын
Criticism on her vocals can be said but considering how she sang when she was in the Jpop industry? It's hybe's fault. She needs lines that suit her vocal range more.
@zeromiedo1218
@zeromiedo1218 6 күн бұрын
I'll always root for her
@Userchilled
@Userchilled 9 күн бұрын
Honestly speaking i first liked her for her visuals....for vocals i got Aespa's winter and Ningning.... that will do
@dimasbahari5368
@dimasbahari5368 6 күн бұрын
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