What Russia’s Capture of Avdiivka Means for the Ukraine War | WSJ

Russia seized the eastern Ukrainian town of Avdiivka on Saturday following months of grinding combat.
WSJ explains what Moscow’s most significant battlefield victory in nearly a year means for Russia, Ukraine and Kyiv’s western backers.
Chapters:
0:00 Remains of Avdiivka
0:38 The capture
2:02 What this means for Ukraine
3:10 What’s next?
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[@abysssebta1384]

Western media A month ago: Avdiivka is a highly strategic city Now: Avdiivka doesn't have any significance. Which is it?

[@ro--M]

It is rubbles.

[@althomas3168]

It matters not. Two years in and Ukraine is a disaster for Putin.

[@lunasea2433]

And now it's just a "town"

[@mrbrain2k]

exactly.. LOL 😂

[@Nepta1652]

Actually, Ukraine even attempted in failure and hundreds more dead to retake this insignificant city of Avdiivka. Why?

[@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126]

The idea that 50k Russians died taking the city is the most comically nonsensical thing I've ever heard

[@JJ-sd1xj]

It's probably around 3k, don't know about Ukraine because 🤫🤫🤫🤫

[@GlobeofBeauty]

@@JJ-sd1xjyeah I would give it 10k TOPS

[@netwraith8215]

​@@GlobeofBeauty why not make that 5 million. 10k is a rookie number in this racket.

[@mrbrain2k]

It was around 6500 on Russian side. But for UA losses, it is a top secret, for now.

[@YaraMits]

Yeah. I don't know why they put that number there. Imagine 2 sides, one with superior firepower, one with smaller firepower, out numbered by factor of 5. Which one will have heavier casualties? The one with air superiority, artillery superiority or the one who stayed most of the time in the basement? I don't know.

[@harryhill-es5jk]

Why does the media all tell us how many Russian have die but never tell us how many Ukrainians have die

[@tamaragaran5177]

Because the number will be unexpectedly huge..

[@19ate4]

Narrative The corporations that owned the media hate you Just Google Kentucky gun show Syria and you can see 1st hand how far they will go to push a narrative

[@ro--M]

Russian state media tells you that, in their own way, like you probably already know

[@vladverenich4283]

1.100.000 AS OF JULY 23

[@ro--M]

84 billion on this monday only

[@ericp1139]

NATO 2022: For as long as it takes!!! NATO 2023: For as long as we can… NATO 2024: Ukraine is not strategic.

[@deb6623]

small brains at work here ericp

[@GarCo-bd3zh]

😂😂😂😂

[@ericwanderweg8525]

What is the collective west gaining for all its deficit spending?

[@user-xe4yb5xc8t]

WEST 2024: But as we all know resourses of Ukraine belong to the whole free world.

[@theborg3237]

NATO 2025 : Russia is an ally !

[@renemartin5729]

Due to intrinsic military complexities, the Ukrainians are advancing backwards whereas the Russians are retreating forward.

[@esQmo]

Yeah this is the version western media are serving to US so we don't question and allow them to steal more billions from our taxes

[@joeschmoe21]

😃😄

[@jamesparker1071]

👍 As Mark Twain once said, "They are making a strategic advance to the rear." 😉

[@mountanarivera4450]

USA and UK and Germany and others AL NATO countries sent Billions of Dollars and Weapons to Ukraine for nothing Anyhow, nobody will care about poor and homeless peoples 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@ro--M]

Due to same paradox, what you see on this video is how Russia fixes infrastructure. They are used to rubbles so before invading an area it is good to make it look like home.

[@simonescelsa]

"The loss of Stalingrad is of no strategic importance". The German high command in 1943.

[@subject_7]

😂 History certainly rhymes.

[@andrewdopple6946]

"Then Kursks, Minsk, Kharkov, Warsaw, etc, etc"

[@salimattal2864]

No german said that

[@PatrickBenjamin-yh3jf]

Zelensky is mere hours away from his Sportspalast speech. History repeats itself

[@mjolnir4639]

@@salimattal2864 not the brightest are ya?

[@Simi822]

the biggest fortified area on the Globe build for 8 years, manned with 20k-30k soldiers...impossible to be taken...now when it did fall....doesn't have any significance....AMAZING

[@user-fu2cv9xl7p]

The Ukrainian military said that Russia does not use meat wave tactics. They bombard positions with gliding bombs and attack them with artillery and drones. And only after this there is an assault on the destroyed positions.

[@mikejezek5214]

Russians ran out of missiles in 2022. They've turned the tide with their washing machine chips and assault shovels. Amazing.

[@josephastier7421]

Too many shill companies buying western semiconductors and diverting them to Russia.

[@DroneStrike1776]

Ukraine spent all of my tax dollars buying boats and real estate abroad. They have no money to fight.

[@provokedfob]

​@DroneStrike1776 tell me you don't know how military procurement works without telling me you don't know :p most of the money is just the worth of the gear, not money sent to Ukraine. You can complain all you'd like, it's your right. Atleast get your facts right

[@Sofya897]

​@@provokedfob А вы думаете, помощь осуществляется только в военных поставках? Наивный!

[@freedomordeath89]

They indeed stopped attacking Ukrainian cities with missiles that often, didnt u notice? Werent u claiming they could hit Kiev every day with 100 missiles? When is the last time we had a 100 missiles attack=

[@daviddunning8357]

8 years of preparing fortifications, the most heavily defended town in Europe. Yet you say it really isn’t that important,

[@swr493]

🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

[@davidwhitten3596]

It was a city when they thought they could hold it and now they're calling it a town.

[@braxxian]

They would say the same thing if Kiev fell. It’s the usual BS from MSM.

[@Grizabeebles]

The purpose of fortifying Adiivka was to prevent the Russians from bypassing or encircling Donetsk city as long as possible. Russia suffered between 10-15% of its casualties in the entire war there. I'd say Adiivka did it's job.

[@shawnr100]

​@Grizabeebles I would say you believe lies and liars.

[@GeldUndKokaine-kc1hp]

Mariupol was a highly important staging ground for Ukrainian defense until it was lost and then they claimed it was a near irrelevant victory for Russia, then Bakhmut was a big deal that would be disastrous to fall to Russia until it did and then was painted as unimportant, and now the most heavily militarized and defended city in Europe is apparently strategically irrelevant. All with a Russian military supposedly running out of everything at all points in time and suffering enormous loses that somehow continuing to secure victories. all with numbers and analysis provided by the Ukrainian government. what and absolute circus of reporting

[@nickmr4543]

So very very true

[@INOYSLUCHAY]

Я слышал Киев тоже не важен )

[@Argosy16]

So Avvidivka is no longer important 😂😂😂😂

[@4grammaton]

"Ukraine believes Russia lost 50,000 people trying to take Avdiivka" Are they high? Russian losses are indeed large, but it doesn't take a military education to find that number absurd.

[@JackSlajter]

Russian bot

[@KyleSchmidt-qi3md]

Hello bot

[@liberalbuster]

​@@JackSlajterDemocrat shill

[@liberalbuster]

​@@KyleSchmidt-qi3mdHello Lefty

[@grammoore]

Disagree with narrative I agree with "Bot"@@JackSlajter

[@yeetian2774]

“Russia suffered heavy loss” “Where did ya get the info” “From Ukraine” “……..”

[@buschtaxi75driver55]

yeah, nothing new here......

[@yeetian2774]

@@buschtaxi75driver55 yeah，Russia is suffering heave loss every single day and Ukraine is winning every day. Can’t stop Lovjng the western propaganda

[@akmalzainuddin9925]

😂

[@larrymaulsby1711]

​@@yeetian2774Hey, Maui got $700.00 per family when our own government burnt Lahaina to the ground and plus 1000s of homeless living on drug infested streets, and Ukraine needs more of our taxpayer dollars to kill more people, what's wrong with this picture?

[@BritishBraon]

I believe both suffered heavily, this war is extreme for modern standards.

[@JohnNjengaCOCO]

Ukraine is always busy reporting Russian deaths and not their own deaths.

[@GarCo-bd3zh]

Its all propaganda...

[@comradericefarmerhao2269]

Also know that Ukraine had more mobilization than Russia did…Russia only had one

[@vicviper4441]

Even they don't know. Could be 500k or 1mil.

[@alexk8583]

Western media estimated Urraine lost 250.000 Soldiers dead and many many more wounded. That;s why they want to recruit 500.000 more. I wonder where those will come from? Millions of Ukrainian men left the country not willing to fight for zelensky and his cronies!

[@JAJAJAJAJA9]

😂

[@Axemantitan]

I just watched a video from Forces News ("Vital lessons from two years of all-out war in Ukraine for British Army") that said that the average age of a frontline Ukrainian soldier is 43. That's not what a winning army fields. That's what Germany fielded in 1945.

[@the_g371]

Do you have any idea who Russia fields?

[@alkazarjkdghjd]

@@the_g371 You men who enlist, Russia have an extremely easy time getting men because of the west hate propaganda against Russia. Remember the time facebook told people to go and harass Russian? They did not forget.

[@Ssanes_mell]

​@@the_g371Здоровых и боеспособных людей

[@user-oh7pt9fj8f]

​@@Ssanes_mellчем тебе в 43 года не боеспособный, именно взрослых мужчин много идет

[@BuddhaWho777]

​@@Ssanes_mellNot really

[@crazyking50]

50,000 Russians lost? What a joke.

[@rogerjensen5277]

Someone doesn't know where to place the decimal point!

[@Sofya897]

Это считает "английская разведка". Не берите в голову. Россия провела лишь одну волну мобилизации. И больше пока не собирается проводить.

[@Orneyrocks1609]

Total Russian casualties since October 2023 are around 7000. Across the entire front.

[@Durzo1259]

I'm betting everyone's just listening to the numbers from the side they support.

[@USGrant21st]

Putin doesn't care. He thinks in millions, what is 50000 for him, nothing. Wait for election to be over, he will demand to mobilize another half million. Russia will probably lose over a million lives before it ends.

[@randomname3109]

last weeks strategic fortress is this weeks insignificant loss

[@bigmojito1765]

In the literal first 20 seconds they say this is a significant victory for the Russians. 105 likes on this comment just goes to show how attentive you & the other Pro-RU folks are, mental capacity's on par with that of a braindead fish

[@iriemon1796]

E.g. Kherson 2022.

[@misutatomasu]

Can I get the sources on who called it of a strategic importance? The city is not connected to a single major highway or the one that leads to another town.

[@randomname3109]

@@misutatomasu Google it. Even Wikipedia is saying it

[@KingOfNaraka]

Judging from the comments, people are tired of Western media bullsh*t.

[@bcarreon6409]

Interestingly enough, the Russians I’ve talked to in my gaming circles online, who have to use VPN’s to talk to us in the west, are also tired of their state approved media. The grass is always greener I guess.

[@eth3r586]

@@bcarreon6409sure, for me as russian would be happier if those who are in comments are russian bots than the real western opinion

[@BuddhaWho777]

​@@eth3r586Yet you're in the west

[@haxeplays9962]

​@@bcarreon6409hm, why they need to use VPN?

[@bcarreon6409]

@@haxeplays9962 Because western internet is banned in Russia. Facebook, KZbin, Instagram, Snapchat - all of it is banned and it inaccessible directly either because of the Russian government has banned it or because of sanctions. So they use a VPN to get around it. They’ve always done that but it’s especially true now.

[@DavidTheAssyrian]

47,000 Russian losses for avdiicka, with artillery, infantry, tank, drone, electric warfare etc superiority. Yea, believable...

[@Patrick-sl8pc]

found a russian bot. obviously you won't believe any number that shows russia in a bad light. come on now. 50k is for the 2 years fighting for the city. please report this guy for being a bot

[@DavidTheAssyrian]

@@Patrick-sl8pc yeah im a bot, I guess its for not believing anything the west says and looking at sources that cite Russian Funeral Services statistics for casualty data. Putin hasnt even declared war yet kid, you know how much hes holding back.

[@stray8468]

its not electric warfare, its electronic warfare. idk about the numbers, but war like this kills many, its a slow and gruesome war. either way, millitary males dying is always different to civilians, women and children dying.

[@sergiovictor7581]

Fake😂

[@orthodoxserb6596]

The town has been fortifying since 2014 - it was probably the most fortified city and yet western media/analysts say it was not of strategic importance...insane... probably if Kyiev falls it will be declared as not "of strategic importance"..but when village with 3 houses, Rabotnoe (will be now lost again) was retaken, it was a decisive turning point in the war...this irresponsible approach cost many thousands of lives - Ukraine needs a new revolution or it will not exist.

[@jigsaw2281]

Whole western media is propoganda to pollute minds and brainwashed it

[@srujan797]

That's why Russia is 2nd strongest army

[@Mrbrowncanmoocanyou]

@@srujan797after Ukraine, sure

[@squidysnose69]

​@@Mrbrowncanmoocanyouyeah so strong they have to beg the united states for military aid. So strong they couldn't organize a proper retreat

[@wizzohizzo]

Spot on

[@MidwestAppeals]

Unstoppable shovels are to blame. And washing machines...

[@mengreat6982]

Proud of these simple items

[@16252]

Yes, Prighozin sent Russian ex-convicts into battle with shovels, to dig positions for the professional soldiers coming after. Do you have a problem with that?

[@amdm8767]

@@16252that premium nafo copium isn’t strong enough anymore huh😂

[@igormsh14bidevisualizacoes45]

Woooo Daveyyyyy

[@HTC800]

don't forget the toilet too

[@GeraltofRivia22]

"We were always at war with Oceania". The loss of the most fortified city in Ukraine that has been used to shell Donetsk for 10 years is now insignificant apparently.

[@hazwan1988]

Nobody want to ask why Kiev is "critically short of soldier" when Zelensky had claimed to have 1mil soldier 1year ago. A feat as not many countries can raised 1mil men. Yet no one want to ask where the 1mil men and 100bil USD worth of arms has gone too.

[@et2709]

He's busy taking selfies, beggings, not good at anything else.

[@GarCo-bd3zh]

All the money is gone and give to those who push this war..american politician..

[@HomaVonErstbyrg]

Все просто, оружие не доехало. Я как житель СНГ и человек который ментально схож с украинцем думаю, что оружие продали олигархи и уехали из украины, например в лондон

[@markmothapa1903]

At this point do the Ukrainian soldiers even KNOW wha they are fighting for?

[@jamese5936]

Its crazy how the life of a young man is one of the most worthless thing in the world. These leaders are just throwing their young men to go die on these frontlines instead of actually negotiating and coming to a compromise. Then after the war is over those young men are told they are toxic and will inevitabely makeup the bulk of the homeless and suicides.

[@rampage241]

There is no negotiation because Boris Johnson killed it!

[@g.olatundeogunfejo297]

Let me come and negotiate with you for your family to come and work in farm.

[@arjaygee]

Be sure to let us know how willing you are to give up some of YOUR country's territory in a compromise.

[@Outlawthis]

putin is ready to negotiate, biden and Ukraine dont want too

[@TheLaualamp]

Guys you really don't understand the scale of what's happening.

[@user-tr9qq4fj6d]

A simple recipe for how to justify yourself when retreating: "Well, but the enemy lost 7 times more soldiers than we did, so it's more like a victory than a defeat." These figures of 50 thousand dead are calculated for complete idiots. By the way, they don't talk about this in the Western media, but the order to retreat was actually given after part of the Avdiivka garrison began to flee the city, realizing the threat of complete encirclement. Ukrainian troops abandoned hundreds of their wounded and tried to escape under artillery fire, during which more than 800 Ukrainian soldiers died across the fields. Some of the troops in Avdiivka did not know about the encirclement and the order to retreat at all and were captured, by the way, the cleansing of the city is still ongoing, hidden Ukrainian soldiers are being smoked out of the basements of houses. In the Ukrainian media, this flight was presented as an "organized retreat to pre-prepared positions," which is really just a ridiculous lie.

[@danechristmas6570]

Yup, I actually saw the drone footage on Indian and African news websites...They left heavy equipment , everything and fled on foot.

[@CrniWuk]

Clausewitz, as he often does, has been proven right again. Quote "Nothing is harder than retreating from an untenable position"

[@awen777]

Yes! I saw one yesterday claim the Ukrainian troops fell back to another line of defense a mere 2 kilometers away! They can make this stuff up and they do it every day!

[@Ampel_off]

0:41 see the howitzer with a Wehrmacht cross. Okay okay, no n a z i s in Ukraine. Doublethink.

[@user-zb4ig2li2t]

you can come and show your coolness. mother sofa expert😂

[@Mastakilla91]

It means Ukrainians are continuing their advance towards Kiev.

[@jirisedlar4510]

Oh wait time 0:39 this strange mark on the howitzer. What i see? Oh wait it is not wehrmacht sign "Balkenkreuz" ? No, i think so it is youtube mark of "end fullscreen mode". All right. Evereithing is OK now :-)

[@dezystarheartstring9000]

What a dumb war

[@nsebast]

Not for the corporations and politicians.

[@jamesparker1071]

A dumb war with smart bombs.... 🤷

[@danechristmas6570]

Glad that I'm not the only one seeing that..

[@trevorsutherland5263]

Did you say that 26 months ago when Biden refused to talk to Putin???

[@Stupiditas-stupido]

At least zelensky more richer than richest people in America

[@wren2900]

How did Ukranians managed to count Russian losses while they were running away? I mean did they have time to do that or they were occupied with survival

[@swr493]

Western media for yah 🤡

[@yourbestplace271]

With drones😂😂😂😂

[@viralriot]

It's called reconnaissance.

[@neilreynolds3858]

They counted the legs and divided by two.

[@billyray7067]

So you stand with Putin. Why? He oppresses his people by shutting down media, creates laws that imprison for saying a single word, make people dead who challenge the system, threatens to invade more countries. I can go on and on. You can divert to the issues of other countries, which is coming btw, but I’m interested in your defense.

[@RajaBoraNE]

Zelensky should donate some money from his swiss bank accounts 😂

[@lexnash9838]

if we let them have Ukraine, when will it stop? Tough times ahead for Europe.

[@novak7970]

It'll stop when Nato stops.

[@tok_220v9]

А Украина ваша что ли? Вы не можете отдать ее нам, потому что она не ваша! И Европа не интересует Россию, нам не нужны враги на границе вот и всё. Живите себе спокойно в своей Европе и не трогайте Россию. Мы в России хотим мира, мы хотим нормально жить, а Украина хочет вернуть Крым, но люди в Крыму этого не хотят, я с Крыма и я знаю что это так! Приезжайте всей Европой в Крым и убедитесь сами. Поэтому мы будем воевать с нацистами из Украины пока они не поймут что они не правы!

[@GarrusVA]

Bakhmut holds, Bakhmut is not strategic. Avdiivka holds, Avdiivka is not strategic... Kiev holds, Kiev is not strategic... Lviv holds, Lviv is not strategic.

[@donjonson5340]

London holds, London is not strategic.

[@dingus6317]

@@donjonson5340Londonistan*

[@spitfire3797]

@@donjonson5340London doesn’t exist it’s Londonistan I haven’t seen one white person there in months

[@freedomordeath89]

2 years 2 small towns taken, 2nd army in the world

[@Jeff-sl8xz]

Viva La Putin

[@rickmcbride3695]

They always seem to say the place is insignificant after they lose thousands of lives fighting over it. It was an eight-year built up fortress that couldn't be bypassed. Any money sent into the game right now would go to manufactures and be slated for delivery years down the line. Al the while the US still calls for Ukarine to fight to the last man. The whole plan of the West was to try and collapse the Russin economy and it looks to have failed.

[@cesaru3619]

The russian economy is still alive but heavily weakened, that's a fact, putin himself said it.

[@netwraith8215]

​@@cesaru3619 and you believed what Putin said? 😂

[@jenevivelancia3012]

@@cesaru3619 I don't think this is true...

[@khanaliqasim1757]

How do they keep fighting then?

[@MrSloika]

There was a lot of things said. The Russian economy is in collapse. The Russians are out of tanks and ammo. The Russian army is near collapse. Russia's allies would smell blood and turn on them. Etc., Etc. All the time the 'West' was saying, "NO NEGOTIATIONS! RUSSIA MUST SURRENDER UNCONDITIONALLY!" Well, here we are. Nice going neo-conmen.

[@ksgrmdsdl2383]

3:20 Win of Avdiivka by Russia is not a symbolic victory. It is a major victory. The chances that Ukraine will ever take over Donbass have gotten slimmer with the loss of Avdiivka, and Russia has become more emboldened because it now has the momentum

[@bigmojito1765]

Pro-RU's said about Bakhmut and yet the frontline barely shifted over half a year since its capture

[@tonycavanagh1929]

A major victory for what though. Putin is not going to try and conquer the whole of the Ukriane, he does not have the motivated manpower. And even if he manged to scrape enough motivated manpower, what he does not need at home, to take Ukriane. Then what years of insurgency.

[@Redtobox]

Это даже важнее Бахмута

[@mowbyt7]

Poroshenko's operation ATO was a big mistake. And later, it would've been cheaper for Kiev to abide by the Minsk agreements. Which France and Germany admitted was just to by time to arm Kiev.

[@Redwhiteandtired]

How could this be? All the experts on reddit keep telling me that Ukraine is dominating 😅

[@willengel2458]

the longer it takes for the empire to admit defeat and comes to the table. the more Ukrainian real estate will be lost. well, it doesn't matter because it's Ukrainian real estate and lives. LOL

[@nfals6134]

Did you believe the online army battalion that haven't even set a foot on frontline?

[@Redwhiteandtired]

@@nfals6134 did you think I did?

[@Randumbship37]

the subreddit r/russia has been quarantined because of "untrustable sources" reddit is just a propaganda tool

[@willengel2458]

@@nfals6134 sure, keyboard warriors. India has tons of them.

[@georgiosnanos9177]

If somebody fights with money and weapons provided by somebody else,then he is a mercenary of this somebody...

[@I_Fight_Instacart]

Excellent point.

[@Grizabeebles]

Congratulations. Now you know what a "proxy war" is.

[@majorevangelism]

How are they a mercenary if they are defending their own homeland from invaders?

[@3941602]

​@@majorevangelismbecause it derails the peace process. Its not the Ukranian people but Z and his cabinet they are mercenaries. Hey Luxemborg dont figjt a superpower cause you aint built for it. If you dont have the $ weapons or equipment you should have never fought a kinetic war. Stop feeding THE WAR MACHINE its an L. Save Ukranian lives broker peace. Minsk accord, nordstream, Maiden uprising.

[@jamessloan2680]

Not when your fighting in your own country.

[@idreamofsquidz814]

Innocent people are just dying. This has to end.

[@Axemantitan]

0:40 That self-propelled howitzer is sporting a Balkenkreuz, but it's not an ex-German vehicle. It's a SpGH DANA, made in Czechoslovakia/Czech Republic and used by Ukraine.

[@andylyon7745]

Since Russia took Bakmut they defeated the ukr summer counter offensive (it didn't fail as western pundits always claim) and they also took Marinka in Jan so this is Russia's 3rd victory since Bakmut. Of course wsj as a propaganda outlet for the west has to downplay all Russian battlefield gains.

[@zibbitybibbitybop]

Go look at the maps, the satellite footage doesn't lie. The Russian gains have been pathetically small compared to the cost it took to achieve them. Some of the gains are so small that they're measured in meters, not kilometers.

[@user-zb4ig2li2t]

Пропагандист😂

[@chandanaik3453]

Fwsj

[@warhammered6485]

Russian army is a myth created by the American military industrial complex they can't take a country right next to them in years . If the west supplied actual weapons to win , Russian would already be in the dustbin 🗑 of history

[@tsushantasingh]

@@zibbitybibbitybop 17.5% of the biggest country in Europe is now controlled by Russia. That is "pathetically small" ???

[@shubankersharma4013]

So you are telling me that Russia lost 50k in Adiivka and also 50k in bhakmut yet they still gave large enough forces to keep advancing.... if people believe this they really REALLY need to do independent research

[@snekula5353]

Well Russia has 1.15 million active duty military personnel and 2 million reserve personnel AT LEAST so... I got this from my independent research of a quick google search.

[@shubankersharma4013]

@@snekula5353 and how many volunteer daily😉

[@zharlzzz]

​@@snekula5353Is that a joke😂

[@Dannyboy16434]

There’s still Russian troops in Syria too so I’m pretty sure they’re doing fine on manpower and the media is lying

[@donjonson5340]

Russians are mastered necromancy

[@tocadiscox3]

It can mean only one thing of course: Ukraine is winning hard!

[@reyespolo]

What about securing our boarders, bring schools tuition down and help our veterans instead of wasting money in Ukraine.

[@JJ-sd1xj]

How much men did you lose? Ukraine be like " 🤫 "

[@RUTHLESSambition5]

Ukraine offers no proof of it's claims. They have to say Russia lost men. Ukraine lost a city while he was begging for money in Europe. Bad look

[@manofsan]

"yes"

[@floxaz128]

@@Leah-ju8ht on some days the ratio was even 20:1

[@georgezimmer5622]

@@floxaz128 20:1, that an impressive feat, surely that would boost morale amongst Ukraine troops to see that they're defeating Russians in such numbers. So why they won't release them ?

[@seppetoni7874]

@@Leah-ju8ht what does it matter? russian military strategy was always attrition war.

[@CeylonBaila]

The most fortified Ukrainian city became not so important after this. Lol😂

[@hotdogcaptain11]

You’re not wrong about its importance being minimized but this “most fortified city claim is repeated in Russian circles to justify how much they sacrificed taking it. They’ll struggle just as hard, if not harder trying to take other areas of Ukraine. It was a small city with nearby logistics.

[@HairLessBush]

​​​​​@@hotdogcaptain11 ah yes... according to Coaping Nafo bots every single town in Ukraine is strategically unimportant if it falls on Russian hands. Lol And another cope for nafo bots (self proclaimed high russian casualties) With no actual fair unbiased credible source "COPE"😂 The casualties weren't even that high and not even close to backmot. Like around 3k to 6k. How much did Ukraine lose defending it? 2000 solders alone were insurcled/captured and other 5000-8000 casualties caused by 300 F.A.B bombs in 2 days and thousands of artillery shelling and russian infantry and fpv drones inflicting masivve casualties. Russia only captured 10% of avdivka insurcaling it. Then the rest fell after the Ukrainian retreated. With lots of units left behind.

[@hotdogcaptain11]

@@HairLessBush if 2000 Ukrainians were captured in avdiivka they’d be paraded through Moscow right now. I don’t know how many Russian soldiers died taking that city but I sure did watch an endless stream of videos of Russian armor being destroyed attacking it. The Russian offensive started in October assaulting it over open terrain lol. It’s February. Do you think the casualties were light?

[@swr493]

Long live Russia 🇷🇺

[@royrogers3133]

@@hotdogcaptain11it’s the biggest city for a while. Russia will probably claim a lot more land following this.

[@louditalian1962]

Avdiivka was a main stronghold of Ukraine. They have been building defenses and made it into a fortress back in 2016 and haven’t stop building around it. Ukraine has lost their making stronghold in the Donetsk area and must fall back a great distance in order to keep getting hammered from Russian artillery on their weak positions. The Donetsk only needs 4 more miles to be made whole; is also to mention that Ukraine lost many elite troops during the defense and during the retreat they lost many on the open ground; also somehow officers whom were apparently killed in 2022 have reappeared from the Russian side, which leads to bogus claims from Ukraine. All in all this gave a huge morale boost for the Donetsk volunteers, crippled any offensive capabilities of Ukraine in the area, lost, lost many of its elite troops and an astronomical number of them have surrendered. The war keeps going but Ukraine is already the dying man of Europe.

[@molos3466]

03:15 lier , it’s a major train hub in different directions with 71 freight train platforms

[@haxeplays9962]

Same thoughts. You just need to look at the map to check it yourself.

[@moistmike4150]

Love how the reporter blames Trump - who isn't even in power - for Republicans in Congress not passing another billion-dollars giveaway of American treasure. FWSJ

[@Hwyz447]

Money can buy weapons but where is Ukraine going to buy more soldiers from.

[@harrymu148]

politics is a human issue. while I dpnt agree with trump, there's no denying his political sway and human influence.

[@welingkartr416]

Some people are complaining because they lose their commissions if the arms deal does not go through. Their frustrations are not-so-subtly manipulated and presented as a setback to the forces of democracy.

[@brettbenson7690]

The fact that he's not currently in power doesn't mean he doesn't have any power. He swayed the votes of several people in congress to delay delivery of ammunition. And Russia was very well aware of it. Contrary to popular belief, they didn't throw their troops away just for fun, they knew weapons would arrive sooner or later and had to make a big push while they had the chance.

[@Headphones.on.Seals.]

@@Hwyz447go buying soldiers from NATO if possible

[@deadpoetlive]

He didn't pull them back he gave the order to save face after the 'elite' Azov 3rd ran away just after they arrived.

[@bjung8858]

Sounds to me that the Elite helped those who could run retreat.

[@maktubvision123]

D,

[@sparkyfromel]

The third was used to keep the jaws of the encirclement separate , it worked somewhat on the Tonenke south side but the units send to the north side in the coke plant got assaulted with 500kg glide bombs , their positions got hammered then assaulted by Russian forces , their losses are said to have been heavy they held a fighting retreat to try to hold Lastochyne where the front line is now across the place

[@HomaVonErstbyrg]

@@sparkyfromel Честно, единственный кого не жаль это Азовцев и Предателей РФ в тылу.

[@fanredskies]

@@sparkyfromel seems like the gave a head there too

[@dastan4637]

How WSJ not checking the real data and provide information just what Ukrainian side say. Wow , amazing journalism.

[@MikleJohnovich]

at 0:40 there is an artillery with a very interesting sign on the tank tower.

[@SR-uo8vc]

Can you explain what is that sign?

[@thenonameguy7756]

You guys really should put subtitles when biden is speaking 😅

[@viralriot]

Americans understand it just fine. I understand it might be hard for somebody where English is a second language though.

[@arete8338]

And the comedian Zelensky to do the deaf-mute translation.

[@thenonameguy7756]

@@viralriot no one asked you tho

[@viralriot]

@@thenonameguy7756 Sorry I hurt your feelings. Let me ship you a bag of onions

[@thang1144]

who cares what that old man says?

[@simaosimoes]

Good to see Zelensky took a shower and changed his outfit

[@jimmykongo6627]

NO! actually they lost 5million soldiers! have you seen russia on the map bro? PROVE ME WRONG!

[@NDR-hn3ue]

*Funny THE SAME PEOPLE who say that Russia taking Avdiivka (which has been used since 2014 to shell Donetsk for nearly a DECADE) is of no significance. were also claiming back in June that the "counter-offensive" capturing Robtyne ( which is SMALLER ) was a "strategic victory"*

[@RenanMendes-zd8hj]

It's not just smaller, it's literally in the middle of nowhere in low lands, the Russians can at least claim they are now under some supply routes and in the most important train route of the region, the Ukrainian in the other hand....

[@iiiryconiii8992]

@@RenanMendes-zd8hjlol sure they can Russian propaganda bots will never face the truth,

[@RenanMendes-zd8hj]

@@iiiryconiii8992 face the truth, of what, Ukraine will never get its territories back and are actually losing more?

[@crash3985]

Exactly right my friend.. its all fake news to obfuscate the truth. Russia will win its obvious..

[@iriemon1796]

*Funny how the SAME PEOPLE who said Ukraine taking Kherson was of no significance are claiming that taking Avdiivka was a "strategic victory".*

[@Truth_not_deception1]

In order to understand any of this, one must understand the history of the territory, the people, and why this is happening now.

[@jenevivelancia3012]

No, to understand any of this one simply needs to grasp the reality that NATO MAP programs require the settlement to all ongoing territorial disputes in the second stage. This must be completed before program advancement. The UK and the Ukraine and the US started this war in hopes of reclaiming the areas to the east militarily. This was a wildly shortsighted choice and it's my opinion that it was taken by design.

[@royrogers3133]

@@jenevivelancia3012*The Obama/Biden regime started this. Trump didn’t want to expand NATO so the war didn’t start until he left office.

[@braxxian]

Indeed. Russia and Ukraine have a long and difficult history that stretched back centuries. Naturally you won’t get any of this from western MSM, all you will get is Ukraine “good” Russia “bad”.

[@Grizabeebles]

​@@jenevivelancia3012-- Please go watch President Putin's 24 February 2022 speech when he launched this "Special Military Operation" by attacking Ukraine before it could further pursue membership in NATO and the European Union. Congratualtions on waking up from your coma by the way.

[@neilreynolds3858]

Have you ever tried to find a history of Eastern Europe by a Russian historian translated into English? I don't think there are any since the days of the USSR when the Soviets did it. It doesn't seem like it helps much. The people who read Russian and were schooled in our best universities seem to be just as ignorant as the people who didn't. They have lots of "facts" but very little understanding or empathy.

[@casienwhey]

Replace "Ukraine" with "Southern Border" and all of Biden's comments would apply perfectly.

[@johngeorge6320]

This happens when you have an actor as a president

[@donjonson5340]

Гаубица с немецким крестом на башне, на украинской земле, опять стреляет в русских. Когда-то это уже было. Закончится так же.

[@the_g371]

You forgot that the last time whole world was helping you and this time your are the nazis.

[@catalinturcanu8698]

Вам Запад не поможет как тогда 😆

[@alexepox]

And Russia did all this thanks to chips from washing machines. Can you imagine what it will do if it learns how to make these chips on its own? )))))

[@danechristmas6570]

That's why they have all-inclusive cooperation with China..China helped them decouple from the global financial system YEARS ago..That's why the sanctions had zero effect.

[@aungyethu6560]

For evil to prevail, all it takes is people with conscious to do “nothing”.

[@Shadowless_Kick]

President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen first fooled public with the washing machine chip lie, she should be ashamed of herself and step down immediately instead of seeking re-election😡

[@user-cp8bw8em3c]

Will he learn to fly into space? ))

[@swr493]

Long live Russia 🇷🇺

[@drpapa26]

First, you say capturing Avdiivka will allow Russia to develop a major logistical hub on high ground. And then you say it has no strategic value and that capturing it is merely a symbolic victory. We are getting seriously mixed messages here, WSJ.

[@bazbbeeb7226]

If only Ukraine could copy the design of those amazing Russian assault shovels.

[@FeverYonge]

No, they just need to convince Trump and the pro Russian lobby to pass the bill

[@Growtolight]

Show us the rebuilt Mariupol and other cities. Oh yes, this is propagand...

[@James-9999]

😂 oh you mean the one building? Yeah the babushkas of Mariupol have made a vid saying their apartment has had artillery holes for 2 years now, and begging Putin to fix it.

[@roninkegawa1804]

Russia rebuilt itself beautifully after the collapse in the 90s. It will not take them long to rebuild the part of Ukraine they will keep.

[@mcleanblades9234]

You know things are bad when its been weeks since Blinken was last in a photo op.

[@deb6623]

such children here

[@mirekpilsudski]

Wasnt russia supposed to run out missles 2 years ago around the same time Putin was supposed to die of parkinsons/cancer?

[@fredo1070]

Well it means that Zelenskyy can no longer shell ethnic Russian civilians living in Donetsk.

[@welltank3723]

Ura

[@Lucas-wn5wm]

Russians civilians in ukraine? Can russia liberate russians in germany?

[@user-oe2cc3tc5t]

@@Lucas-wn5wm Yes it can if it has to

[@TomStan-sw2wj]

@@Lucas-wn5wm what you doing in Ukraine?

[@nataliasalmanova6020]

@@Lucas-wn5wmRussian - its nationality. In Russian language there are two different words for citizenship and nationality, but in English it’s one word meaning 2 things

[@huehue-kk2zj]

Send Joe Biden and Blinken to Ukraine pls....

[@arjaygee]

No. Send Trump and the House Republicans. They're the ones gumming up the works.

[@chandanaik3453]

and crocodile tears Kirby

[@arjaygee]

No, send Trump and the House Republicans.

[@arjaygee]

@@photon3999 What a silly notion. Trump is too much of a coward to ever travel to a war zone. And he doesn't have a boyfriend in Ukraine like he did in North Korea. If he is re-elected and helps Russia take over Ukraine, he might consider visiting once the hostilities have ended.

[@arjaygee]

@@photon3999 What a silly notion. Trump is too much of a coward to visit a war zone. Plus, he doesn't have a boyfriend to visit in Ukraine like he did in North Korea.

[@rotaryenginepete]

what's absurd is that we already sent them any ammo at all

[@roycrosby4941]

It's another forward position that Ukraine was using against rear positions. Taking it makes things easier logistically which allows for an attacking posture.

[@AndreyKarlovich]

Ironic that none of the "analysts" want to say that taking back Avdeevka was one step to removing Ukrainian presence from the Donbass region, it would prevent them from trying to shell Donbass. However, even taking Avdeevka wouldn't be enough to prevent Ukraine from shelling Donbass.

[@atomica0914]

Avdeevka is where Givi died fighting

[@jasonlives6923]

Rip givi

[@hallaback2010]

Who was counting? And how?

[@ManufactureBelief]

the west media all seem to keep using falsified Oryx "open source" data lol. Which has consistently lied.. And is clearly a propaganda machine for the hegemon's masters.

[@TheMadMadman]

"Its easier to fool someone than to convince someone that they've been fooled."

[@ghostchan4674]

News when Ukraine defends a city: That's right, the city is important and the soldiers are fighting bravely to defend it! 😤☝ News when the city falls into Russian hands: Yes, hehe... It wasn't that strategically important anyway. 😓👉👈

[@anindaguharoy3165]

Someone said: In a war young men who don't know kill each other on behalf of older men who know each other.

[@TreeofHelll]

Avdeevka and not Avdiivka now.

[@user-cp8bw8em3c]

Авдеевка ))

[@tomshanakian909]

This is terrible in so many ways. Why are we pouring all this money in thus war. Ukraine shuld cut her loses and make a deal.

[@oyeh8908]

A deal isn’t happening as long as both sides believe they can win.

[@august7134]

This is honestly a needless war.

[@KirkHeilner-bp7qv]

It really is. Russia should stick with its 1478 borders. Muscovy. That’s it

[@MrMursilok]

эта война очень нужна, она позволит поставить Запад на колени, после чего Россия будет жить долго и счастливо. Вы нам суки ещё за Косово ответите.

[@Ampel_off]

Ukrainian people may thank the US+UK for that war.

[@TheWorldsprayer]

yea....no. Had the ukrainians not launched a coup against a legitimately elected president simply because he wasn't pro-west enough, this wouldn't have happened.

[@arjaygee]

How do you figure?

[@Asya062]

russia is the only one to blame for starting this war and invading the independent country, but ofc you get paid to blame the west in everything, keep going troll

[@ggg-cf9zl]

Russia invaded Ukraine to erase the Ukrainian nation and cheap Russian trolls are blaming Ukraine and the West...

[@16252]

You like Putin so much that you are willing to post dumb comments on social media all day. Isn't that sweet....

[@VovikPomidorov]

Как вы любите перевернуть всё с ног на голову чтобы ваши неудачи не казались такими уж страшными....Очень много боеприпасов бросила украинская армия спасаясь бегством из Авдеевки и приказ об отступлении им поступил после того как они начали бежать ))) И на Украине нет российских солдат срочной службы,только контрактники ...Сколько же здесь вранья...

[@ometec]

Yo Mama.

[@alexandersergienko1098]

Если не нравится, тогда можешь возвращаться к Соловьёву и Симоньян. Ты, видимо, от них «правду» получаешь.

[@VovikPomidorov]

@@alexandersergienko1098 У меня нет телевизора, вот привезу с украины и как начну Киселева и Соловьева смотреть (кого еще посмотреть -добавьте если не всех вспомнил , просто не в курсе что смотрят россияне по мнению украинцев )

[@OzyegenTwo]

Looks like a dejavu stalin: Soldiers, your target is Berlin, march forward Putin:Soldiers, your target is Berlin, march forward

[@user-uk7rt2md3g]

Таким образом, аналогия понятна. Причины и последствия аналогичны?

[@muhammadrizqanilmi1301]

2:42 that guy on right sitting on floor is really one of most luxurious place he ever sit. Imagine chilling like that on congress while listening with headset.

[@boaz9248]

How can Russia loses so many soldiers and still winning the war?

[@Themilkman649]

well they did lose 30 million during world war two and still won

[@user-rg1jw9zm1s]

Я тебе как Русский скажу ,, по секрету"))), у нас численная группировка войск на Украине в два раза меньше, чем Украинская армия! Признаюсь, ваша пропаганда творит чудеса..... 😊

[@user-mx9tr7fw1t]

因为俄罗斯拥有死灵大法师，能够持续复活士兵😱

[@user-wn5oy9jp5u]

@@Themilkman649 most of the 30 million are civilians, 300k have been mobilized in Russia while mobilization is ongoing in Ukraine, so it is obvious which side has the advantage in numbers

[@GarCo-bd3zh]

Western media lies.

[@carlosw1687]

Rich and powerful people in London and Washington are sorry about this while sipping wine and eating salmon

[@Grizabeebles]

London left the EU dude. The EU and NATO was what Ukraine wanted to join.

[@sashap5747]

@@Grizabeebles Biy UK was the one to stop the Istanbul piece deal. I suspect they did it exactly to undermine the EU.

[@jamesbooth5537]

Why are we sending so much equipment to Ukraine when we have enough problems at home? Focus on handling our own problems first.

[@yangerjamir0906]

Why do evey town or village Ukraine occupies is of strategic importance and when they lose it, it becomes an insignificant place suddenly?

[@icemanzw]

Out numbered is now the norm cause Russia are now increasing their military numbers out gunned Russia suffered the same in the days of Intial war now never the case even if Ukraine have all the weapons they will run out of man power

[@danechristmas6570]

And Russia has ramped up their weapon's production to exceeds what exists in NATO and the US combined.

[@Tony-er8nh]

@@danechristmas6570 The worst thing is that Russia may not be able to stop this growing war machine.

[@danechristmas6570]

@@Tony-er8nh One can only negotiate a good deal from a position of strength. More than a decade ago, under Obama and Victoria Newland, Putin foresaw this conflagration was inevitable. Overthrowing the elected Ukrainian president and installing Poroshenko was the CIA biggest miscalculation. Putin took that move to mean that the US was planning to destabilize Russia next. He then formed the necessary alliances, ( BRICS came onstream around that time) and reoriented the Russian economy away from the West with the help of China. Now the US and NATO doesn't have a choice but to go back to the bargaining table.

[@davidwhitten3596]

We are no longer the Arsenal of Democracy. That ended during the cold war.

[@angryroosteranimations5194]

In a simple comparison of numbers Ukraine could never win. In attrition warfare you need man power, and they have always been horribly out numbered (population of country, not mobilized troops). the only way they could stand a chance is a foreign military directly intervening with a massive influx of troops, which would spark a world war. Once both sides started digging in it was very apparent that this would not end well for Ukraine.

[@thorthunder6336]

The city can’t hold the people lost taking it. Mind boggling, the lack of value for a human life.

[@sergeykvit1126]

Украинские Нацисты убили большую часть Населения Авдеевки

[@acornsucks2111]

Don't believe any photos. You have no idea where they are from.

[@davidwhitten3596]

Just think of the carbon savings

[@bigirish4542]

Mind bloggling you actually follow this government funded state media site, all propaganda

[@neilreynolds3858]

The lack of value of peasant lives... The barons never care.

[@user-ym2on5zc2g]

Pisses me off that they always want the US to help them but yet they talk bad to the USA at the same time.

[@user-gn8iw1cx3q]

The recompense of corruption is no other except this happening

[@mandatorybizcoot]

Well put!

[@romavilla7855]

Blinken…😂😂and NATO ..defenceless..😂😂.. hahahaha..

[@jenevivelancia3012]

Fun fact, Ukraine has lost approximately 135,000 square kilometers since the start of the war. Russia currently holds 128,000 square kilometers of formerly Ukrainian soil.

[@nunyadambusiness3530]

Why do you guys want to bring back dictatorship communisms?

[@nunyadambusiness3530]

why do you guys crave dictatorship?

[@swr493]

Long live Russia 🇷🇺

[@somuchfortalent]

@@jenevivelancia3012 what kind of cope is this?

[@malikjawad1234]

Oh my God how much these politicians lie and lie and lie the entire world is in a mess because of these people

[@uhadme]

And now that we run out of ammunition, just walk away, how absurd (self aware af)

[@skbHerath]

What is the chapter of the comic book you are reading now.

[@nihargautam]

Индия всегда благодарна России за помощь нам... Русские - наши братья и мы всегда будем с ними.. любовь и уважение к русским братьям и сестрам.. из Индии

[@sapvier]

[@StPiter111]

Russia didn't stop in Avdeevka. Ukranians are running further West on several important fronts😎

[@brettbenson7690]

It was so heavily fortified in the first place because it is in fact a strategic position. More so for Ukraine, but denying the enemy a strategic location is more than symbolic.

[@reddyforlenny9389]

"During the war we were told we are winning great victories at the front, however each one got closer to home"

[@DanielNistrean]

How immoral is to partially arm Ukraine, giving them a hope and then stoping all help. For what people died? Is USA undecided?

[@Vinash1002]

Why are you arming in the first place?

[@rampage241]

It's Ukraine's fault when they decided to provoke a powerful neighbor at the behest of Western powers who are known to cut and run when things don't work out. History is replete with examples, the Ukrainians should have known.

[@denisreal2357]

I invite you to read this book: The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997), Zbigniew Brzezinski, you will find a response to your questions: People died and continue to die for the interest of USA. The target is not to win war but to weaken Russia. US is expecting a return on investment but it will not be the case

[@renemartin5729]

The US played Zelensky like a banjo and then threw him under the bear.

[@IAMAVIKJORDAN]

US has a history of doing this , YPG Kurdish forces are one of the examples

[@CrimsonAlchemist]

So basically Ukraine is "My lord, your men are running from defeat! A shameful DISPLAY!" But media says it its a good decision to retreat 😅

[@mountanarivera4450]

what Media are you referring to, the USA or UK British intelligent Fake news 👈👈👈👈👈

[@duncan8437]

You talking about a Rout. While Adivka retreat certainly is a russian victory, theres a huge difference between the two

[@stalker2.007]

@@duncan8437 The Ukrainians basically fled the city, it was not organized. The only thing that could be called organized was the Azov's attempt to hold the cauldron's flanks, and guess what, they failed.