Why Russia Is So Determined to Capture Avdiivka, Ukraine | WSJ

Russia has deployed waves of infantry attacks in its assault on the Ukrainian town of Avdiivka - a tactic Moscow used to seize Bakhmut. What could Russian forces capturing Avdiivka mean for Putin, Moscow and the Donetsk region?
WSJ explains how Avdiivka became a symbol of Russia’s offensive heading into winter.
Chapters:
0:00 City of Avdiivka
0:31 Russia’s gains
2:15 Ukraine’s gains
3:25 What’s next?
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[@libGODFATHER]

Waiting on British intelligent report on how Ukraine is gaining ground and Russia is running out of man power

[@zoom777]

It's like waiting for Jesus

[@danleonte001]

Yesterday Sky said Russia loose 800 Man per day in Avdeevka, and it is same for the last 30 days, seems Russia is kaput.

[@felipe-vibor]

​@@danleonte001that's according to sky

[@maskr5520]

@@danleonte001this really tells a lot about Sky’s bs

[@zoom777]

@@danleonte001 CNN is more reliable source of manure

[@clifflegrand4848]

" Adiivka won't give Russia a strategic advantage" " They just pouring troops into the battle and takes lots of casualties" I heard these narratives last year before and based on them I know the future of Adivka, it will be fallen.

[@sababugs1125]

Yeah but it will only cost the Russians another 100k men only for the Ukrainians to run into another defensive line

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

​​@@sababugs1125As per Media Zone BBC subsidiary. The Russian lost 37K since the start ...what are the Losses on the Ukrainian side ...looks like they will be Mobilizing women next ....

[@clifflegrand4848]

@@sababugs1125 what’s up with the counteroffensive? Tell me about it while you’re here.

[@sababugs1125]

@@clifflegrand4848 idk , how is the Russian offensive towards Lyman going?

[@attilamarics3374]

@@sababugs1125 It went better than the Ukrainian one. Not liek there were a Lyman offensive.

[@ClubtheAnalyst]

🤣😂Western propaganda starts already to say that Avdivka is not important city.... The West VS the Rest.

[@Joaquin546]

It would be more impressive if the town was Kharkiv, Kherson, or Kyiv.

[@olesy4091]

I am wondering, do you unlike Western world?

[@gtaraya]

@@Joaquin546they are not here to impress you. As a matter of fact no russian achievement can impress you. They are your villain.

[@zallyzally2698]

​@@Joaquin546if a town , battleground , teran or city does not favored an army ,it can withdraw to more favorable or defended ground or town , Russia has done that in so many time at the cost of this conflict including ww2 against Germany invasion, Ukraine can do same war is not a movie is a reality, real people died , Ukraine can strategically withdraw from advilfka as they get half encircled. that is what they supposed to do in bakhmute as well instead of propaganda of killing 20 to 1 in favor of Ukraine when your army has already been encircled

[@chriscarlino5561]

@@Joaquin546Russian was never trying to take Kyiv. Hence the amount of force that was even deployed there. It’s not in their interest to take Kyiv. Sooner or later Ukraine will need to succeed land to Russia.

[@happines3511]

Don't underestimate Russian shovels

[@Killer1260]

Noone said Russia only has showels, nice cope. If the war continues, Russia will be weak in 2025

[@daramy9507]

The narrative is the same, Russia is losing too many men while Ukraine is putting up a gallant defense. We shall see.

[@dkrawk8309]

Uhm......what is You smoking?

[@blacmagicwand]

And yet Ukraine is having manpower shortages they're literally pulling people from the street and arresting fleeing men at the borders

[@defencebangladesh4068]

​@@dkrawk8309sarcasm maybe

[@AAAAAA-tj1nq]

@@dkrawk8309 you must be smoking copium because you people think that addivaka isnt important and yet ukraine is throwing men into the meat grinder

[@prozac.]

Cope Ukraine was never winning this war

[@SincereSentinel]

Russia will clearly succeed in Avdiivka. Not a surprise to anyone following operations on the ground. And Ukraine will never regain Donbas or Crimea. Common sense.

[@chopinmack5418]

Ukraine lost an entire generation of young men. This is truly tragic. Jens Stoltenberg : Keep on fighting ! NATO & the US are "behind" you !

[@mgronich948]

Not an entire generation. 600,000 Ukrainian men of military age have escaped the country illegally. But now that Zelensky is drafting men and women age 17 to 70, Ukraine is literally going to fight to the last Ukrainian. Stoltenberg is trying to be another Boris Johnson.

[@bass7100]

Way way behind you.... a few thousand miles, at least. 😂

[@Andrej_Cherepkov]

Stoltenberg's place is in prison with a life imprisonment without the right pardon.

[@vutruong7761]

Adiivka is the position where Russia claimed Ukraine located their regular artillery to shell Doneskt since 2014 so does Adiivka significant ?Very symbolic at least.

[@gagangurung5297]

Adiivka hold far more significance than bakhmut

[@ericp1139]

Not “claimed.” Verified.

[@user-qw2qm5hw4x]

Bakhmut not strategic? The battle gave Russia time to fortify Zaporozhye and stop the Ukrainian offensive

[@loverofyurigagarin1149]

Didn’t they have to relocate troops there?

[@AAAAAA-tj1nq]

@@loverofyurigagarin1149 if Advika isnt important then why ukraine is throwing men to defend it

[@loverofyurigagarin1149]

@@AAAAAA-tj1nq no no it is important Ukraine maybe wants russian to relocate troops like bakhmut

[@AAAAAA-tj1nq]

@@loverofyurigagarin1149 if that is the case then ukraine has failed spectalarly because they unable to break through the first Surovikin line

[@nick4819]

That wasn't what kept Ukrainians from going on the offensive. Shortages were.

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

Avdiivka has been a Bahkmut since 2014...

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Ukrainelnvaded A in July 2014

[@infocrypt]

Ukraine needs to think about pulling all troops back to around Kyiv and start building defenses there.

[@Fightesst]

@@infocrypt How about Berlin

[@infocrypt]

@@Fightesst surprised to see few still buying into warmongers and Ukrainian propaganda. There is no threat to Europe, Putin knows war with NATO will be nuclear.

[@prozac.]

Russians don’t care they’ll take over that city like they do all over Ukraine

[@JamesWest_III]

Recruiting women to fight shows you how desperate Ukraine is. They won’t last another 6 months

[@ebbeb9827]

"we'll take Kyiv in 3 days" energy. Ukraine will to defend itself is strong and the west backs it

[@icemanzw]

@@ebbeb9827 who said that? Definitely not Russians

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

GenMilley said that.

[@icemanzw]

@@user-cv8xw8zn5u he was lying then and over exaggerated the conflict.. By numbers deployed Russia was nit intending to take Ukraine by maths definitely not in 3 days

[@Joaquin546]

Yet Russia can't take one town? Notice how this is becoming a recurring gag.

[@kavishkawanigatunga2736]

This is not ukraine russian war. This is western vs russian war in ukraine

[@davidwolf8991]

0:13 thats a man flying... what a time to be alive.

[@anonname7610]

Ejecto Seato Cuz!

[@gtaraya]

I think its a camo netting

[@mattyboy456]

Yeah I just noticed it.. Crazy days, man

[@AAAAAA-tj1nq]

@davidwolf8991 how is reaching tomak going for ukraine?

[@RandomDeforge]

that guy is a total peanut gallery. doesnt understand how useful avdiivka is to UA, and he doesnt understand that UA leadership understands the fact.

[@attilamarics3374]

Now they are seeding the "Avdiivka isnt important" talking point into the public. Russia is now in the city so they have to get the machine rolling. They wont admit that Ukriane lost hard.

[@JustChill-zd4ib]

Who cares about opinions. Only reality matters.

[@sababugs1125]

​@@attilamarics3374Russians so far have taken a slagheap and 1 factory at a cost of roughly 200+ lost vehicles

[@attilamarics3374]

@@sababugs1125 You cna find the vidos about Ukrainians running. South east Avdiivka fell.

[@sababugs1125]

@@attilamarics3374 according to the map by lost armour (Russian source) the advance in the south east of avdiivka was around 300 metres and took over 1 factory . As far a victory goes , this is nothing

[@tongtranphong531]

If Ukraine troops have to flee from Adiivka, they can't continue shell the Doneskt region because of the far distance (except HIMARS, but Russia now have KN-09 shell from North Korean with the effective range up to 80 kilometres). Then Doneskt can become a safe firebase, logistic base for the assault campaign of Russia. In Krynky, I don't think Ukraine troops can hold the line here, because of the bombardment from Russia and extreme weather (A report said that some Ukraine troops surrendered has got cold burns, it means they have to fight in cold weather with summer uniform, and as you understand, no logistic, no victory)

[@andreherringart]

Russia loves Andre Herring Art

[@ericp1139]

Avdiivka is crucial to both sides. May as well consider all of Ukraine “not strategic.” And the Krynky marines are just FAB500 target practice. What is their objective, anyway?

[@nick4819]

A Ukrainian soldier likely did have cold burns, but it wasn't because he was stuck wearing a summer uniform. They just had a massive blizzard smash through the area. It was cold and 100+mph winds. Even in winter uniforms, you would get too cold. Russia had MLRS that could reach 80km's before. The problem with Russian MLRS and North Korean KN-09 is that they are just dumb rockets. Sure, they have range. But they would have to launch 10,000 of them to take out a certain target. They don't really shell Donetsk city anyway. There's a reason that city is still overwhelmingly intact. Ukrainians aren't trying to level a populated city unlike Russia's goals. How many cities has Russia wiped from the map with indiscriminate shelling of populated areas? What really insane to me is that Russians continue to willingly line up and die for NOTHING. I mean, it's no wonder the word "slave" came from "slavic" people.

[@ericp1139]

@@nick4819 winter hasn’t even really even started, so the AFU will be popsicles soon. The Russians have all manner of missile and artillery varieties. Anything the West has, Russia has equivalent with much more quantity. And Donetsk being shelled by Avdiivka is verifiable fact, and not something up to debate. Only difference is, the Kiev regime didn’t go all out war on it like Russia is doing.

[@user-ft3cl7yh9w]

Сказочный😂😂😂​@@nick4819

[@alphacompany4837]

Remember people Avdiika isn't strategically important 🤡

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

L ocals listen and draw their concIusions

[@ambrishpriyadarshi988]

Stop war at any cost without any condition

[@abhilashsundaram2432]

💯 true. Ukraine has achieved nothing significant yet in the counteroffensive. Russian economy is growing at 5%. Are these facts not good enough for the parties to just arrive at a peace negotiations table and end the bloodshed. People are dying.

[@986najes8]

The value of Adiivka has more to do with fortified city stocked with food, ammunition, equipment, fuel and well trained soldiers. It has the potential to be used as a staging point for a Ukrainian strategic attack/strike. Russia needed to remove this threat before it could continue. The two questions for Ukraine are, firstly can Ukraine sustain the loss of this men and equipment. Secondly will the asov brigade be allowed to be a victim to Adiivka also.

[@4rmDEC2FRE]

US Logic: 2 Russians :1 Ukrainian. Sweet deal

[@dogman490]

The goal was NEVER to take Kyiv. You people.

[@user-kb2oq9zr9m]

the "winter" isn't "approaching", it has set in like 2 weeks ago in Avdiivka

[@lepetitroquet9410]

People said Bakhmut was of critical strategical importance and its fall would change everything. Bakhmut fell and absolutely nothing changed. -> It was utterly insignificant on the strategical scale.

[@CanWeGetMuchHigher667]

No one said that. Ever

[@princethawani1351]

Mehn everything around this war is now getting fishy

[@JustChill-zd4ib]

"people" who are those people? Who cares what they say?

[@felipe-vibor]

The mainstream Media brushed off bakmut as they're doing avdiivka as non strategic and inconsequential. We all now know how important those towns are

[@Evans_4308]

Bakhmut became a place of extermination of Ukrainian soldiers and resources. After the defeat in Kharkiv and Kherson regions, Russia realized that Ukraine was in a state of breakthrough. Therefore, the battle for Bakhmut had no strategic purpose at all, if it had, the Russians would have gone further, since the Bakhmut-Toretskaya Height is behind Bakhmut. It's was just a meat grinder.

[@CeylonLastMile]

where is Ukrainian final counteroffensive ?

[@Brett-jy9yk]

Where is Russians progress?

[@ninzki143]

Correction: Hollywood Counteroffensive...lol

[@blacmagicwand]

@@Brett-jy9yk in the land they've annexed. Russia gonna turn Ukraine to Yemen

[@gtaraya]

@@Brett-jy9ykdid we watched the same video? Russians are in the offensive and taking avdiivka

[@vaskodimoski5690]

​@@Brett-jy9ykland that equals half of the UK is decent progress.

[@PatriotsW710]

“Lime Bahkmut it won’t give Russia any major gains” literally Zelensky said in a speech to Congress Bahkmut would decide the course of the war

[@RandomDeforge]

and it did. it cleared out Wager meatlockers and then ended Prigozhin.

[@dattatrayalimaye2756]

​@@RandomDeforgeduring which the surovikin line was built that failed the UKR counteroffensive

[@piebit101]

@@dattatrayalimaye2756 160+ Kilometers captured in a month in the kherson bridgeheads, more than russia caught for the last 6 months

[@alphacompany4837]

​@@piebit101 coper 😂 ! 5 villages, 3 shacks , 2 barns and a chicken coop captured at the cost of 90,000 Ukrainians

[@utkarshtrivedi8870]

​@@piebit101Cope harder bcoz the planned Crimean beach party by Ukraine couldn't even reach Tokmak while losing thousands of men and equipments. Yeah they surely managed to capture few treeline though 😅

[@TheRealBillBob]

I especially like the lie, "Both sides have struggled to seize any new territory this year". Just completely left out the fact Russia took both Soledar and Bakhmut this year. Ukraine hasn't taken any city. Just some farms a few villages. 🤣🤣

[@cleoisdancin4583]

Yet ukraine is winning

[@SincereSentinel]

​@@cleoisdancin4583Winning at what, losing? You blind?

[@ericp1139]

“Villages” is generous. More like hamlets.

[@abateditheleme9702]

they speak to people who never check, just believe what makes them feel OK.

[@megachaloub759]

@@cleoisdancin4583yes Ukraine is winning, that spring counteroffensive was so much winning it only cost 233 billions and now senate doesn’t want to give money to Ukraine after so much winning

[@joshuapaul2022]

There are plenty of videos of entire units of Ukrainian soldiers that accuse their command of gross incompetence and sending them to a slaughter. Most recent from Avdiivka and Belogorovka. Different units accuse each other of cowardice. Ukrainian army is disintegrating.

[@pepekoip7831]

the same kind of videos have been appearing from the ruzzian side of war right from the beggining 🤣

[@julka159tyu]

The fact that the "most powerful country in the world" practically can't do anything in the Ukraine war just proves the point that Ukraine isn't disintegrating. Yes, there are many problems, but it looks like the other side - Russia - is even having much bigger problems.

[@CannabisTechLife]

Cope more won't ya?

[@joshuapaul2022]

@@julka159tyu You still don't get it. It's a war of attrition. It's not about capturing Kiev, Bakhmut or Avdiivka. It's not about gaining more territory. It's solely about decimating Ukrainian army. “The main object of operations should not be the territory, but the army of the enemy” Helmuth von Moltke Sr. This war showed once more that old Moltke was right. According to BBC (Mediazona) total Russian losses by now are 37 000 KIA ( obituaries, social media records, new graves). Yeah, it's really staggering 37 000 Russian KIA and 500 000 Ukrainian KIA. The war of attrition is effectively lost by Ukraine. Anybody can go and see for himself.

[@YouMadBro69]

​​@@joshuapaul2022no comrade, you got the information wrong, the great russian army only has 100 KIA while the ukrainians have 20 gazillion quadrillion KIA, they are literally digging ancient bodies from their graves to fight as zombies.

[@technoworld4832]

He learned his lessons

[@ggg-cf9zl]

The comment section is literally filled with Russian trolls.

[@operator9858]

hi from denver. love to russia.

[@captainchaoscow]

@@operator9858 Hey Denver guy - give Alaska back to Russia. You stole it and ou know it. But unlike the Indians Russia has nukes.

[@ulooq]

Cant fathom that people support RUSSIA because its the right thing ?

[@operator9858]

@@captainchaoscow okay...

[@captainchaoscow]

@@operator9858 never get an answer from the original commentator. All the proud American Putin lover are pretty silent about the injustice of Alaska.

[@ulooq]

Yup, WSJ conveniently leaving out how most of DONESTK bombardment for the past 9 years originates from Avdivka?. A win here will relieve the civilians whom has to endured Ukranians indiscriminate shelling all these years. and also didnt mentioned many of the troops are locals , whom now has the opportunity to END this , to finally protect their families .

[@MasterAijallah-wr3rh]

that's no fair

[@jazzmancoltrane]

What happened to the sane and unbiased analysis from WSJ?

[@deeplife9654]

In information war, there is nothing like that

[@washingtonsibusisosanga2087]

So if Ukrainians are inflicting heavy losses on Russians why would they retreat then?? 😂😂😂😂. If it's not important why fight?? 😂😂😂 Same narrative as Maruipol and Bakhmut... But we all know how it ended.

[@tadzdgreat]

Lol. Wrong analysis. Its from Adviika that artillery attacks to Donetsk City is coming from. Thats why Russia is bent on capturing it

[@brillbond7878]

Don’t worry....There is a phrase, "Everything gonna be All-Right."

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

For whom? Russia? Ok.

[@book--worm]

Guy Pearce is that you ?

[@williamwells1862]

Yeah sure .

[@steveprocter6241]

British Intelligence says Russia has suffered greater daily losses on the Avdiivka front than at any time since March 2022 - 900+ casualties per day over the past 6 weeks.

[@robvannNS]

British intelligence is the propaganda arm of the UK.

[@ahmetakgun5358]

Which British Intelligence? The one who said the Battle of Bakhmut is a symbol of Ukrainian resistance and will determine the fate of its region when the battle first began or the one who said it's just a symbolic victory for Russia and will not change the outcome of the war when it was over?

[@ilivedbeforethefall2330]

​@ahmetakgun5358 the one that said Russia is taking massive losses for no practical gain.

[@kahutochishisumi9056]

British and Intelligence, the world's greatest oxymoron 😆😆😆😆😆

[@CanWeGetMuchHigher667]

Forget British intelligence, where is American and Israeli intelligence? I’m still trying to find them

[@mangesh870]

Ukraine never told about his casuality

[@al4azal4az84]

With so many deaths as you say, ho is advancing then??😢

[@geraintjones9274]

with out my rifle I am nothing with out me my rifle is nothing

[@heberje]

Really? I don't think Bakhmut has actuaslly ever fallen completely. Think of the costs in terms of resources.

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

May20, 2023RussiansCaptured it.

[@zoom777]

Russia was using Bakhmut to exterminate Nazis 🤣

[@ilronin804]

What do you smoke? 😮😮😮😮😮

[@elfonzo18]

U.s. corporations making so much money from these wars

[@goldeagle8051]

Hilarious that WSJ asked the Russian ministry of defence for comment on Avdiivka. If only more outlets would do that.

[@GoneFishing-rp7rh]

See…Why is Russia building a Arctic Silk Road

[@MemekingJag]

1946: the WSJ: Why Germany could be looking to invade Europe. did it really take months for one of the biggest newspapers in the world to create this four minute video?

[@harryowens8304]

Good channel along with redacted for no biased true reporting on Russia Ukraine war n Israel conflict

[@gagangurung5297]

🤪

[@NurturesWrath]

US and EU citizens should give Zelensky more money.

[@Indigolakes]

... not happening.

[@MA-hn9vo]

NO!

[@Rook137]

YES! @@MA-hn9vo

[@paulalinani8742]

Again?😂

[@captainchaoscow]

Best bang for our buck!

[@princethawani1351]

And I qoute "thousand of men" hmmm

[@benjaminayodele2834]

propaganda channel

[@ProjectHyena]

Its liberated already and Russian took back swveral villaged around Bakhmut.

[@austinb1565]

the russian army never even took bahkmut. it was wagner and they stole the credit

[@balazsszekely2132]

It s like saying in ww2 an ss divison took a town and it wasn t germany

[@roundlake96]

Wonder why as the war goes on why Nato dont give Ukraine some Naval Warships. That and Western Fighters would be a real game changer.

[@carolinebaione]

Sometime you must tell the trues

[@nipunchandrawansa9014]

Russia pulled out of Kiev after negotiations and after NATO promised to not include Ukraine.

[@cepelinai123]

It already is

[@user-lz2qr6ih4c]

hi=fh now divide fighting warfughting 4h=f now divide fighting fightergun in ukrine

[@mikusoxlongius]

Artemovsk*

[@MarioLopez-qp1bg]

It is strange that when Ukraine was in the offensive, the propaganda is in Advitka, who is saling what, to whom? 🤔

[@geoffrey9888]

Well this video did not age well.

[@ionutvrabie5730]

And they will. They did it before and will do it again!

[@tombrazy12hunnit]

When Ukrainian’s soldiers average age is 43 because the young fighters are DEAD, they’re sending woman and the disabled to fight and Zelenskyy always appearing on American TV crying and begging, WE all knows what’s to come…..Just saying. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Zelinskiy is aDisappointment.

[@Joaquin546]

Yet Russia can't take one town manned mostly by old men and pregnant women! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@trollek7823]

@@Joaquin546 cuz you surely would manage right? :)

[@Joaquin546]

@@trollek7823 Irrelevant but I do know the United States military was able to take cities many many times larger than what russia attempted in a fraction of the time.

[@tanzirhossain7159]

​@@Joaquin546 United states never faced such a challenge. I was in Iraq and we barely had anything compared to us. We were in open field ,our logistics failed. Chain of command failed, people lost morale. They shoot from long distance, from darkness of the from sky . We shoot at stuff randomly I doubt those shoots ever hit anyone. It was never safe we were in open. Us could never defeat Ukraine the way it defeated us because we had no air support or air defense for that matter.

[@beesomsak6727]

“Ukraine is on the path to authoritarianism,” the Mayor of Kiev Vitaly Klitschko has said. “There is only one independent institution left -local authorities- and they are under enormous pressure.”During the conflict, the central government has been communicating poorly, if at all, with local authorities, the mayor of the Ukrainian capital claimed.“In a year and a half since the beginning of the conflict with Russia, there has not been a single meeting or telephone conversation between [the city of] Kiev and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky. At some point, we will get to the situation where everything depends on the mood of a single person,” Klitschko told Der Spiegel. Ukraine wont get thru this winter....its had it...

[@Andrej_Cherepkov]

KIEV'S WAR CRIMES "Canadian journalist accused Kiev of genocide of Donbass residents The Ukrainian leadership is committing genocide against the residents of Donbass, so representatives of the Kiev authorities should be held accountable for war crimes. This was announced on Saturday, December 17, by Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett, who is currently on the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic. "My colleagues and I are documenting Ukraine's crimes against the civilians of Donbass in order to bring Ukraine to justice for these numerous war crimes in an ideal situation," Bartlett said. She also expressed hope that she and like-minded people will be able to change the discourse so that the decisions of the Ukrainian government "are not whitewashed." The journalist admitted that more than once she witnessed the shelling of Donetsk, where civilians were killed. In addition, she noted that since the beginning of the special military operation on the territory of Donbass, more than 4.5 thousand civilians have been killed, reports [Russian news agency] tass. Prior to that, the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN, Vasily Nebenzia, reported on the mass repressions of the Ukrainian military against the civilian population, which are carried out on the right bank of the Dnieper. According to the diplomat, the representative of the Ukrainian authorities, Galina Lugovaya, "warned in advance" that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would "shoot traitors like dogs." (Vechernyaya Moskva newspaper)

[@christopherwang4392]

0:46 to 0:47 Note the proximity of Donetsk International Airport northwest of Donetsk City to the frontlines around Avdiivka. Have the Russians been using the airport as a forward operating base to support their offensive around Avdiivka? Has there been any news of fighting near the airport?

[@gtaraya]

They cant use that, its within artillery range

[@ulooq]

mate, they fought over the land years ago.... the 1st civil war. a bloodbath for both DPR militas /KieV troops.

[@lookinaturmom]

so no city or town in Ukraine of strategic importance? 😂

[@azhanali1448]

Counter offensive has failed.

[@dazzahaywood3298]

Russians won't stop now they've lost to much.. but Ukraine 🇺🇦 won't give up Ukraine have the strongest and bravest soldiers around many of these so called top counties would had gave into the Russians and downed weapons by now and stopped fighting

[@Koltausar]

😂

[@ahmetakgun5358]

That means, after Bakhmut, Avdivka will have a place in the comedian warrior's heart...

[@angelosuke1139]

The million dollar 💵 question, HOW MANY HAS Ukraine 🇺🇦 lost ??? I hear Russia 🇷🇺 lost thousands and thousands and Ukraine in the ten thousand ??

[@hilite975]

Omitted the main reason, where for some of the forces involved it is vital that Avdiivka be taken at all costs. Those forces are made up of people from Donetsk town and surrounding areas, who have been resisting the Ukrainian forces for over 9 years. Avdiivka has served as a platform from which Ukrainian forces have launched artillery and rocket barrages, including himars cluster munition, on the civilians of Donetsk town and residential areas over the last nine years with almost daily bombardment killing or injuring people there and this is known as Donetsk Roulette, as residents of town do not know who will not be able to get through the day unscathed. An Australian on CafeRevolution his yt channel is showing this vividly. Also, it appears, a source of water supply to town of Donetsk will be unblocked.

[@loverofyurigagarin1149]

Link?

[@haywire4686]

Yo, source? HIMARS and cluster munitions weren't used until AFTER the invasion of Ukraine. Both sides broke the ceasefire on each other every few days, but only ever few weeks did it result in the "daily bombardment killing or injuring people". And "Donetsk Roulette" doesn't exist, I fact checked that one.

[@uioplkhj]

Did Lincoln let the South go free when they wanted out of the United States? The Donbas separatists backed by Moscow were never going to walk away scot free without a fight.

[@blazingkhalif2]

OK Russian Bot I have a quick question How is there still a city if it's been shelled for 9 years

[@Tonik-13]

@@blazingkhalif2 For nine years, many civilians of Donetsk have died from the attacks of the Ukrainian Nazis. The realization of how this is possible does not fit in your little head and you cannot believe it because your lying media does not tell you about it? And everyone who tells the truth or another point of view automatically gets a label - "Russian bot".

[@kdc6884]

It’s weird comments are being deleted

[@muktadirhasan345]

Yeah my cmnt was deleted 😆

[@mikusoxlongius]

First time?

[@UHaulShorts]

dat *STILL* GOIN ON?

[@leevuong8843]

Ukrainian troups are fleeing. Avdeyevka is gradually collapsing. In the mean time, Jens Stoltenberg, general secretary of NATO, is asking Ukrainians to keep on dying for the EU cause... ;-(

[@Joaquin546]

Still listening to russia for your information?

[@MA-hn9vo]

@@Joaquin546 Still listening to NATO for your information?

[@leevuong8843]

@@MA-hn9vo Or the British press... ;-)

[@leevuong8843]

@@Joaquin546 Better than CNN's disinformation LOL

[@jamesof07]

Don't worry, one step forward, three steps backwards as you did a couple of months ago, its not all loss yet, support will come when EU realise they did to do more.😅

[@007us]

how much weapon makers have paid WSJ? why are you guy are so into lying about it?

[@wolfgangdautriche623]

There are already around a million Ukrainian refugees living in Germany. From the first day you get a pension per person for every child and every adult of € 463, free medical care, free kindergarten. There are places where you can pick up free groceries every day. You also get the rent for an apartment paid in full by the state. Ukrainians all go to Germany. Welcome. P.S. By the way, everyone in Germany who doesn't feel like making a living through work gets this.

[@DinkoSimnica]

I saw many well Germany is like Caritas and in Germany own citizens have nothing to eat😂🤣🤣

[@uioplkhj]

Hey Ivan

[@DP-rr9kp]

Avdivka is also important to the Russians to stop the bombing of Donetsk from avdivka, by Ukrainian forces that have been bombing the people of Donetsk since 2014

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

Amen

[@berndschreiber1167]

You mean the petty criminal, Russia-controlled separatists who occupied the regional parliaments in arms after their "own" party refused their absurd requests didn't and doesn't bomb, do you? Those psychos, who exercise their sick, murderous, inhumane rule against the civilian population, 75% of whom wanted to remain in the Ukrainian state despite Russian propaganda? Educate yourself and grow up.

[@Hydemic]

Finally someone who said it. Thank you bro.

[@richardespanto8459]

​@@Hydemicyes someone is repeating Russian propaganda lies😅

[@Hydemic]

@@richardespanto8459 Ok richard you really think that Russians will ever give up? They will win this war one way or another. Just sit at your home and drink tea and make sure it's warm because your energy bills keep raising.

[@alvinparalejas1936]

10 thousand only why not all of your population sent them

[@techzolute]

Donetsk held by Russia since 2014? What sort of tomfoolery propaganda is that?

[@christogerber7050]

Unfortunately Ukraine is also suffering heavy casualties, whole units are being wiped out..also most combat forces in the Dombass are separatists and not Russian forces, strange how this isnt being reported at all, as of the Ukrainian rebels just disappeared

[@ashishIMpro]

Exactly. The rebels in fact have grown from some tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands having had their own set of mobilisation. And these men are former Ukrainians, were not Russian citizens. Strange no one even talks about it.

[@blacmagicwand]

And the fact that bakhmut was fought by a PMC therefore Russian federation still has considerable amount of free troops in Ukraine

[@fritzraake22]

Most are cargo 200.

[@Deltasquadformingup]

​@@ashishIMproRussians Join Ukrainains Ukrainains Join Russians soldiers switching Sides is nothing new Happend in ww2 a lot

[@Joaquin546]

They aren't taking more losses than the Russians. The russians are sending wave after wave of troops that are gunned down long before they become a threat.

[@zoom777]

Ukraine is becoming like bukhmut

[@GSuii]

Weird, I thought Ukraine was winning.

[@ericp1139]

It already is the next Bakhmut.

[@delavan9141]

"Could" become? LOL.

[@GwynBleys]

Its British inelegance

[@markusalbe]

Avdiivka is Russia's Accelerated Decommissioning Program for it's armored forces x-)

[@gtaraya]

But russia can spare blood and iron.

[@Rook137]

They are now paying off wives of DEAD Russians to keep them from protesting is that what you mean? @@gtaraya

[@sofabiru6852]

🙄 "fresh army next bhakmut.... " 😪

[@GnomaPhobic]

Probably not an encouraging comparison. The Ukrainians lost the Battle of Bakhmut after wasting time, lives, and equipment when the West advised Kiev not to try to hold the city.

[@charlesharper2357]

Russia destroyed some of their best units in the process...not worth the cost This is known as a "Pyrrhic Victory"

[@alexanderlazarev3570]

​@@charlesharper2357And Pentagon accompanied by British requested to return back all of the rest of Abrams and Challenges.

[@LWQ15881]

@@alexanderlazarev3570 don’t spread misinformation. It helps no one.

[@SDGreg]

It is spelled Kyiv not Kiev.

[@juamu1132]

the one;'s that took bakhmut was wagner not any specail units of russia.@@charlesharper2357

[@user-yj7um6hv1d]

0:45 correction: held by separatist forces supported by Russia, not by Russia itself. For many foreigners it's the same thing, but in reality it is not 🙄

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

WSJneeds to thank you.

[@dkrawk8309]

People who lived in Donbass for generations and don't support the ukrianian nazism are separatists

[@fritzraake22]

Are there any separatists left? Most were ruSSian anyway.

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

3.8 million women, men, children live in Donetsk Republic.

[@user-cv8xw8zn5u]

And yes they are Russian.

[@rohit.n.mohite]

Prepare people for fall of advika ,

[@asrarahmed3020]

Okay what is official losses of Russia in Ukraine conflict Answer : NATO don't now anything because there is no mass graves in Russia like in Ukraine...

[@jibriladamosman7946]

Same narrative😂😂Am getting bored now

[@nobushi1926]

Very misleading report from WSJ

[@louislussier6133]

For a war of attrition to be profitable for the Russians, ukrainian losses must be at least equal to theirs. But the ukrainian losses are catastrophic! So why do you say that the Russians are sending men to their deaths and do you forget to say that Kyiv is sacrificing as many lives or more?

[@Joaquin546]

No not at all Russia's fighting on the offense while Ukraine is fighting on uphill fortified positions. Not to mention the amount of training russia gives it's troops is entirely inadequate especially compared to Ukraine.

[@vaskodimoski5690]

Really who trains the Ukrainians are you kidding listening to western propaganda the west gives Ukrainians a 6 weeks crash course and has trained how many soldiers and where has these west countries that do the training gotten their qualifications from Hollywood they haven't been in a large scale war since world WW2 all they know is how to bomb a defenceless opponent from the sky

[@lilkid2209]

@@Joaquin546 ut why is there no mobilization in Russia, but in Ukraine it continues en masse, so who is losing and who has more losses?

[@sababugs1125]

​@@lilkid2209there was a mobilization in Russia and they even went to prison to get soldiers Russia has a larger population so their mobilization isn't as aggressive

[@lilkid2209]

@@sababugs1125 There was a partial mobilization into a contingent of 300k at the beginning of the war, this is an insignificant percentage, and the Wagner PMC was recruited from prisons to storm Bakhmut, and then voluntarily, and in Ukraine there has been a general mobilization for the 2nd year already, people are forcibly dragged into vans... now tell me where which side has more losses? It's just math

[@imborad5350]

Avdivka is just another funnel for manpower and obviously gibs.

[@AnnaK-bf2wq]

Free Gonzallo Lira! Free Julian Assange! Free Pablo Gonzales! Imprison Biden, Zelensky, Victoria Nouland!

[@icemanzw]

Ukraine can retreat right cause there have nothing to lose there

[@richkingdaverichking331]

This was 2months ago....fast forward Valentine's Day, how is it going for Ukraine?

[@mdsalmankhan425]

Russia has the right to defend itself. Ukraine should not occupy russian speaking people's land and claim theirs.

[@user-qn2el1wx1m]

Ukraine should just Surender and negotiate with Russia

[@ChhabiLalLimbu-xn9dd]

NATO is giving chance to rusia face saving.