What's Beyond the Sixth Archstone of Demon's Souls?

If Bluepoint don't make new Demon's Souls content..we will!
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[@VaatiVidya]

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[@vasylpark2149]

Hey VaatiVidya do you think that we could have writing competition instead of an art competition. Dark Souls was founded on telling the lore through writing and story building. one of the things that I do for fun is build flavor text for the stories I write. I think that could be very interesting to build items for this cut content.

[@MultiJimWilson]

you should have written: sorry, not sorry. We all know you were not. ;D

[@DebugMenu]

Radical!!

[@ace15892001]

Could it be theoretically possible that Allante found the Giant's arch stone first then Boletarian stone afterwards?

[@ranuangkoso9490]

Hey vaati sekiro have manga now. Try read it.

[@Silverparodox]

Bloodborne 2: Announced Vaati: *Bloodborne Kart Concept Art Contest*

[@jacksonscott3667]

If Bloodborne Kart features Souls characters, I want Nito rolling around on a bonewheel tricycle.

[@captainbongwater7790]

I would absolutely slay at Bloodborne Kart.

[@pontiff7322]

Logarius 4 wheel drive is my favourite vehicle.

[@VaatiVidya]

You joke but I've honestly been considering this

[@Tornkik]

@@VaatiVidya do it

[@liljinjar1268]

Now after Elden Ring, I wonder if inspiration from this cut content was incorporated into the design of the Mountain of the Fire Giants?

[@caspertheemoghost1482]

There was a boss in the cut Archstone which was a yeti, who had a mouth on its chest who directly influenced fire giant

[@intoxicviii]

@@caspertheemoghost1482 true.

[@obsidianreaper9507]

Just like the Red Wolf of Radagon was inspired by a cut boss from DS3. The cut boss was the big wolf you get the Watchers Covenant from

[@andrei11dr]

8:12 well, the enemy in the top left corner is very reminiscent of the Zamor Knights, and the one in top right....yeah it's a giant yeti with a mouth in its stomach, probably don't even need to point out the similarity there

[@Thebdippy]

I mean realistically the ideas they had were probably repurposed for the painted world, given that it was the first area they made for dark souls and it's a snowy mysterious castle.

[@Paulito-ym4qc]

When he entered the archstone, i expected to get rickrolled, but alas I finally awoke

[@sgtbaker25able]

You were trying to cross the border, right?

[@yolk5377]

Empire was nice and lazy If they hadn't been looking for you, I could've stolen that horse and been half way to Hammerfell

[@infamoushacker4chan883]

You there. You and me -- we shouldn't be here. It's these Stormcloaks the Empire wants.

[@ShadowGem07]

We're all brothers and sisters in bonds now thief

[@emperorcheese2370]

Shut up back there!

[@Tr4shGoblin]

I laughed harder than i shouldve at that skyrim joke

[@Hell_Mind]

same

[@yea3446]

You, you're finally awake

[@christopheryanez]

I was speechless, it all makes sense now

[@muffinman2546]

Skyrim IS a 'northern land' (well... province) of Tamriel which features giants...

[@youfailed3089]

@@muffinman2546 it more makes me think of Karstagg or whatever his name was from solstheim. An ice giant in a frozen temple, that was also the hardest boss in the game for most people, that just screams souls like

[@justanotherfool8896]

Fromsoftware: Demon Souls is not cannonical to dark souls Community: *IS HE YHORM?*

[@hollowknight266]

Bruh

[@axellion4573]

@@hollowknight266 I dont get it

[@poopikins]

@@axellion4573 me neither

[@absoluteunit8628]

@UltimateShamrock what

[@xXLunatikxXlul]

@mamuburaa they really aren't connected. Just piecing those little tid bits is far from solid evidence.

[@LautrecOfCarim]

Be honest, Vaati, the curse has you in its grip. At this point, if you go a month without holding an art competition you'll go hollow and then some. Heh.

[@commanderyevgen7154]

based

[@sweeners8950]

But who knows, going hollow could solve quite a bit?

[@brotherlouie3193]

Be safe and don't you dare Vaati...not even YOU Lautrec! \\[T]/

[@Bluecho4]

Can you blame him, though? The Art is so pretty.

[@johnfischer707]

The bell tolls, he must make a new painted world.

[@ToddHimself]

I always thought the vanguard demons were the last giants in the world. Their heads resemble the head of the 6th archstone guys and to my knowledge the vanguards are never explained and are just there, much like how the giants are never elaborated on.

[@pious83]

Interesting to note a Vanguard featured in the cut content too. Plus, there is more subtext to the Giants Archstone than any of the others. All the others depict a ruler in regal or majestic pose. The Giant appears with wrists crossed, as though restrained. With two human sized figures holding swords on either side. Like they were guarding a prisoner.

[@zachbetz6326]

Their lore implies that they were the ones who were on the front lines when the demons attacked the people of Bolitaria and even led the demons in those attacks on the kingdom. But that’s it for their story in the complete game.

[@neofelisnebulosa3871]

Interesting theory but personally I believe them to just be demons, they are never referred to as giants and are clearly also referenced as being apart of the demon scourge. This is also supported by their lore and the fact we get a grey demon soul upon their death rather than a giant soul

[@luckyrain1251]

I really hope that this area has a "Beast in the Mist" style, should it ever be added.

[@Zayindjejfj]

Be cool if the "wall" of the zone is just mist and if you get too far out a demon just picks you up and smashes you Amygdala style.

[@Odinsday]

@@Zayindjejfj Just when you thought the Old One wasn't Lovecraftian enough.

[@yuviT]

@@Odinsday Tower of Latria much?

[@SonicTheFuckinHedgehog]

No no no no dark souls 2!

[@Skobeloff...]

If it was going to be included, it would have happened in the 'remake' (aka the way to sell more playstations).

[@spiralcraft8957]

love how this comp is basically a training ground for artists to learn how to do commissions i.e setting up paypal - having a presentable portfolio and so much more. thanks vaati. feels like only yesterday i was sketching out my sekiro submission.

[@hayk3000]

And it's great too that they can show their great work to thousands of people even if they don't win

[@DinoTheSus]

Good luck to the artists attempting this. Do your best guys!

[@takezokimura2571]

You know, this reminds me that in Demon's souls you could rate the phantom's help from E to S.

[@bosslog96]

Absolutely idolize the way you use your influence Vaati. You were a big part of the birth of the souls-fanbase, and how loyal we all are to the lores and world's we've explored. And you just keep paying it forward. Good on you my guy

[@Robahomusic]

They have to do the Archstone. Its the perfect time to complete the game.

[@RafaelMarques01]

Straight

[@carlosfandinosoto8506]

Exactly

[@Voidsent_]

They will need Fromsoft for lore unless bluepoint are also good at that.

[@RafaelMarques01]

Mayonnaise Sama 100% they will, I don’t want them to create something from their heads alone

[@SaladDongs]

Doesn't that mess with the current lore though?

[@alloygermany8883]

Demon’s Souls Remake restored my humanity.

[@dustinsterling3248]

gave you an Ephemeral Eye stone*

[@Krakatoa995]

@@_Luluko_ No. Maybe in 5 years.

[@spiralcraft8957]

this made me smile in these perturbing times. thanks

[@YouSoSpice]

It mended my world.

[@mikejmr2406]

Umbasa!

[@ericallen5677]

The final boss for The Northern Limits is King Allant's faithful knights, Smougstein and Ornoug.

[@revelmore3524]

These made me chuckle

[@edwardecl]

I like this idea.

[@oslrlss8666]

smein & orug

[@Skobeloff...]

Not the Icesage Demon 🤔

[@federicomaestri6026]

Well, the story of a king who found the power of the souls in a land of giants has totally been recylcled! :D

[@whitefangs1659]

Maybe that is why Dark souls 2 was like that , the developers just want to finish the story which was left out in Demon souls

[@fakegmale4648]

dark souls 2 is actually demon souls 2 confirmed

[@porci751]

there's a lot of "recycled" concepts from demon's souls in dark souls

[@joviboggsu5332]

Honestly the idea of a king or nation gaining immense power from a land Of giants has been used many more times than just with the souls series.

[@Skobeloff...]

@@fakegmale4648 So that would mean that dark Souls 3, is really Dark Souls 2 then 😐

[@adains8819]

Me, foaming at the mouth at the idea of a demon souls art contest

[@dustinwulf8074]

Adain Smith FOAMING AT THE MOUTH

[@adains8819]

@@dustinwulf8074 yes! This gives me a chance to shine

[@fabiobalassia]

F O A M I N G

[@Atzay]

Your effort in making and funding these competitions is truly commendable, you're the Souls Maecenas! Thank you so much for the wonderful content Such a great community

[@tinpan6052]

I really hope they finish it with the remake, although, i wonder how the giants could look like, if they May be different from the DS1 and DS2 giants

[@chaoticstarfish3401]

Well it's a different universe so it will most likely be a different design

[@endgamertheendoftheworld8387]

Since we dont have any concrete proof to base it off besides the cut enemies and the archstone design, they might just be very big, tribal/aztec like creatures.

[@pious83]

6:35 Has always been widely believed to be the Northern Limit. As you can see, the Giants of DeS are considerably more distinct than DS 1 or 2. Plus they gave that as the in-game reason the Archstone was broken. The Colourless Fog struck the kingdom of the Giants first. So the access point was destroyed to stem the tide.

[@heyimanameheyimalastname]

@@pious83 Pretty sure those things they're fighting are demons (and maybe a couple of the cut-content yetis in the middle), since they look absolutely nothing like the giant on the archstone. Maybe the smaller ones towards the bottom could be giants, but they're too indistinct to glean anything from anyway

[@pious83]

@@heyimanameheyimalastname As I said, _widely believed_ Plus, you can't see their faces from that vantage point. As that is all you can see of the giant in the Archstone, where are you getting "absolutely nothing" from? Lastly don't upvote your own comment. It is kind of a pathetic level of attention seeking.

[@Draedaja]

That Skyrim joke, though ;)

[@Landis963]

My immediate reaction to "sorry" was "No you're not!" :P

[@lemmonboy6459]

God I love seeing all these creative people put their soul and heart into making beautiful masterpieces Good luck to everyone participating

[@5Head01]

you're finally awake

[@lyndonbainesjohnson9178]

You were trying to cross the border, right?

[@phrog4412]

Just like us, and that thief over there. Use R3 to move the camera left to right

[@Sensko]

Don't forget Vaati making money off their work in exchange for a free book.

[@benedekrafai195]

If that Ricardo guy enters again, I say don't even try

[@jaimeg6780]

He most likely will, he’s participated in every art competition so far and always made a top 10 spot.

[@rlira0908]

Wut

[@benedekrafai195]

@@rlira0908 xd

[@matinaref6975]

Ricardo milos?

[@solaireofastora5212]

Don't give up. Even I, Solaire of Astora, am still finding my very own sun to this day.

[@Dabluemoon93]

I’m praying that this turns into a dlc that would be awesome!!

[@tims.1615]

Crown of the ivory(?) king from ds2 is pretty much this level

[@pleiades0000]

@@tims.1615 imagine playing Crown of the Ivory King in Demon's Souls Remake engine, would be more than happy lol

[@carlosfandinosoto8506]

I got the Demon's Souls strategy guide. There's a bit of lore written here about the Northern Lands, might help the artists. It reads: "The Northern Lands were once home to the race of mighty giants. They lived in relative peace with the rest of Boletaria until the thick, colorless fog swept in and blanketed their domain. The Northern Lands were the first to succumb to the spread of Demons, and in an effort to contain the madness, Boletaria sent hundreds of thousands of its finest knights to this great kingdom to fend off the threat. The effort was for naught, and the Archstone connected to this land was later destroyed as last-ditch attempt to contain the chaos. It did not succeed."

[@carlosfandinosoto8506]

Just like Vaati said, "relative peace" would probably mean the giants didn't really get along with the rest of Boletaria or the other way around. But then again, Boletaria helped them a lot apparently when fighting the demons. But if they were mighty giants, why would they need the help of puny humans?

[@AbyssalPlague]

Here's hoping they make DLC for it in the remake. I would love to see what they could do!

[@lbasura]

Oof

[@AbyssalPlague]

@@lbasura Oof indeed, my friend.

[@nightmarishcompositions4536]

The Northern Limit looks so much like Eleum Loyce from Dark Souls 2, pretty sure they recycled the concept.

[@bb-sw6ur]

Vendrick plundering the knowledge of soul magic from thr Giants in DS2 is closer in concept IMO, but visually Eleum Loyce might be a better representation.

[@serbero9]

@@bb-sw6ur Basically, Vendrick + Nashandra + Ivory King = King Allant

[@B-Man-69]

I'm actually wondering if the Northern Regalia (that OP sword) has anything to do with the Northern Limit

[@Bones_]

@@B-Man-69 Well in this video we are reminded that Boletaria is a northern kingdom, and beyond it's northern most limits, is well, the Northern Limit. So I think it's more referring to the kingdom itself.

[@ncrranger6327]

Eleum Loyce was frozen to contain the chaos sprout that resided there; what if the Northern Limit contains something, anything?

[@coldsteelblue7275]

Damn, my art skills are that of a drunk 5 year old, ah well, best of luck to all who enter

[@coldsteelblue7275]

@yeah ok it's just a joke, nothing serious

[@theArab__]

yeah ok he has seen stuff.

[@lapelcelery42]

As the old proverb goes, "It is better to be as a drunken five year old, than to be as he who makes the five year old drunken, or to be as a drunken four year old".

[@koolkia9]

These art competitions always get me so excited. Not necessarily because I know how to draw and can enter them but because I look forward to seeing the amazing pieces that come out of it. Seriously the community is crazy talented and the work that comes out of these competitions are astonishing. Good luck everyone!

[@wastehazey6468]

Such a shame that we'll never get to see the complete Northern Limit. I absolutely love the somber and isolated atmosphere of it.

[@johnfischer707]

Every time Vaati uploads a new art competition: "The bell tolls, we must make a new painted world" 😁

[@KirkWilliams300]

Host: What is this Sticky White Stuff falling from the sky? Phantom: You mean snow sir

[@guldmormorgoldgranny1974]

It is acculy unbeliveble how extremly good and entertaning your lore videos are, thank you so much for teaching and entertaining us all these years! You're the best!

[@draxonel1045]

Good day Vaati! What do you think of this theory? I'm interested in your opinion. I have a theory "who is the furtive pygmy" "Then, from the Dark, They Came, and found the Souls of Lords within the flame. Nito, the first of the dead, the Witch of Izalith and her Daughters of Chaos, Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight, and his faithful knights, and the furtive pygmy, so easily forgotten." Each character shown in cinematic is very important in Dark Souls. And we met Gwyn and killed him. Like Nito and the Witch of Isalith. But where is the furtive pygmy? I don't believe that he wasn't shown for 3 games. What Miyazaki says about him: "It isn't written anywhere, but, the image is something like humanity's ancestor. He found the Lord Soul, fragmented it and humanity are like the fragments of it. Kinda like an ancestor, yeah. So the descendants, the humans, have a part of that Lord Soul." This means that the pygmy is the creator of mankind. But what is human? Humanity description: 'This black sprite is called humanity, but little is known about its true nature. If the soul is the source of all life, then what distinguishes the humanity we hold within ourselves?" That means only human have humanity and humanity is a main part of human. Without humanity human is no longer human. And humanity is a part of the Lord Soul of furtive pygmy, pygmy is the first human! But why is it called "pygmy", not a man? "Pygmy" is a mistranslation. In the Japanese version furtive pygmy is called "小人" , it translates as "small stature" and "low social status". Miyazaki says the second version is correct. It means "pygmies" and humans are the same. Elizabeth and Marvellous Chester call Manus "primeval human". "Primeval" can mean "first", and furtive pygmy is first human, Manus is the furtive pygmy. But also "primeval" can mean "ancient", one of many. But is every ordinary human reborn after death as Nashandra, Elana, Nadalia and Alsanna? Too powerful for the average human, isn't it? Therefore, I believe that the "first" is more correct. Also soul of Manus description " Soul of Manus, Father of the Abyss. This extraordinary soul is a viscous, lukewarm lump of gentle humanity*."* As I said humanity is part of Pygmy's soul. But what Kaathe said about furtive pygmy: "After the advent of Fire, the ancient Lords found the three souls. But your progenitor found a fourth, unique soul(soul of Manus description - "extraordinary"). The Dark Soul. Your ancestor claimed the Dark Soul, and waited for Fire to subside. And soon, the flames did fade, and only Dark remained. Thus began the age of men, the Age of Dark. However... Lord Gwyn trembled at the Dark. Clinging to his Age of Fire, and in dire fear of humans" That means that Lord Soul of the furtive pygmy is a Dark Soul. "Dark Souls", yeah? And Amnesiac Lapp said:(about Ringed City) "Where the pygmies who found the dark souls at the dawn of fire reside." It means Dark Soul in the Ringed City The furtive pygmy has a Dark Soul Furtive Pygmy in the Ringed City! But where? Gael killed the Pygmy Kings for a Dark Soul. This means that furtive pygmy is pygmy king, and because in Dark Souls 1 cinematic showed one pygmy and Miyazaki said about one pygmy, and statue which depicts Gwyn giving a crown to one Pygmy. only one of the pygmy kings is the furtive pygmy! After defeating Gael, I explored this location. 8 corpses of kings, including the guy who crawled to Filianore. And I also looked at thrones. Only 8. Between the two central thrones there is a place for the central, ninth throne, as if the throne had been here before. And I remembered the pygmy from the start location of the Ringed City, "so easily forgotten." He told me to awaken Filianore, and I didn't expect the destruction of the Ringed City! This is a lie.. Now I understand that he was Pygmy Lord. Long hair, the royal clothes and the same voice actor - Ramon Tikaram. Other Kings are loyal to Filianore, he hates the gods, this is the same as the words of Kaathe. Why doesn't he have a crown? Why was his throne removed? Such details can tell a story. The Awakening of Filianore destroyed the city, which was a prison, and this gave him a chance to escape from the city. That is why the king lies on the ground. He just waits for Ashen One at the entrance to the city, to say to him to awaken Filianore. If we defeat the spears of the Church, then he leaves! He is the furtive pygmy! And the last detail: Pygmy King on concept art have a pendant... And Manus was looking for a broken pendant? Seems different, but when pendant was broken it could change. Hmm....

[@varunchaturvedi2581]

If I'm not mistaken; you also posted this theory on the DS3 subreddit, didn't you? I remember reading this before, somewhere.

[@balaam_7087]

Varun Chaturvedi yes, I remember this as well. It’s an interesting theory. Not sure if I can fully commit to it, I’d very much like to see Vaati dissect it.

[@draxonel1045]

@@varunchaturvedi2581 yea, it's me, thanks!

[@JohnyMCness]

If im not mistaken it was made clear before that manus was A primordial human not THE primordial human

[@draxonel1045]

​@@JohnyMCness Nope. Chester: "Fooled by that toothy serpent, they upturned the grave of primeval man, and incited his ornery wrath." Elizabeth: "But Princess Dusk is here no longer...snatched away by that horrifying primeval human"

[@nickbillings2081]

hey Vaati, incredible video as always! It just occurred to me, “he discovered a lynchpin temple IN a hinterlands of icy mountains.” I learned that the nexus is a floating monolith above the Old One, as shown by concept art of the “Nexus outside.” Many people have come to accept the theory that the Nexus exists outside time & space. But, how would King Allant discover the Nexus? Since you can exist in the Nexus in human form, I would argue that there must be a physical location of the Nexus somewhere. I’m speculating that the 6th Archstone is not included because the Nexus is located above the Old One, who is slumbering atop the remains of the kingdom of the 6th Archstone! There was no one to slay the Archdemons and save the land of the Giants, no one to lull the Old One back to sleep. Thus, it was destroyed by demons and consumed by the Fog. Forgotten forever by the extinction of all the indigenous souls who “perceived” it. With the ancient land of the Giants crushed and swallowed by the Fog, their Archstone was destroyed. As a result, the 6th Archstone within the Nexus imploded and collapsed, barring travel to the land of the Giants because the land is forever lost to the Old One. Thanks for reading this far, let me know your thoughts/comments/feedback!

[@LamantinoElettronico]

Never closed the video I was watching so fast

[@BiggLesane]

damn should have written that. good comment

[@Sleepyhead156]

Same

[@bablabowbablabow3629]

@Hidetaka Myazaki damn I should have written your reply. Great reply.

[@schoolaccount5714]

@@bablabowbablabow3629 Damn I should have written your reply. What a good reply.

[@igornaimoli7321]

I closed a TLOU2 live

[@moretotheshell]

I'm not an artist, but somehow I am thankful that Vaati makes these art challenges. What a great way to encourage newcomers and experiences artists to do something that potentially gets seen by many. Ah man, KZbin can be so amazing.

[@Nohiro.3D]

would have loved that to be in the remake....

[@M0nst3rBass1st]

I am 100% interested in this art book. Keep us posted!

[@Zeithri]

Listening to the parts of whom got hte Archstones just made me realize; _Seven rings to the Gnomes and their hearts made of stone_ . Lord of the Rings rears it's head.

[@ThePowerofYeti]

I'm an Artist too, so take the idea, before I change my mind: A depiction of King Alant, passing through a border Village. The Peasants stare dumbfounded at the King, their Elders only knew from Stories and hear-say about him, but now he's there. Alant isn't wholly present - his mind fixed on the North, where he hopes to find something powerful. I think you can imagine the Scene... Have at it!

[@OrganicStuff1]

I hope when I die from covid that this guy could say something nice at my funeral

[@jerryvargas3591]

Hopefully we die after we beat demon's souls again.

[@kimashitawa8113]

@@varunchaturvedi2581 I hope he rests in piece

[@tudeslildude]

I'm a bit late for this, but I would have loved to commission some art of a vast snowy landscape filled with mountains, giant structures, and a bunch of actual giants from far away all praising upwards, above you would see the nexus floating there above even the mountains. You would be able to see background ares with signs of monsters or caves. The shot would be taken looking forward from a rivalling mountain, to show properly incorporate the cope of the area. Finally in the for-ground as well, probably taking up perhaps 1/9th - 1/16th of the screen in proportion, would be the back of the Frontier Lord himself, looking out on this great land of cold, and magic. (the sky would also be filled with something similar to the northern lights, to really push that feeling of this area containing the source of magic.

[@seedmole]

I wonder if the story of Allant learning of the kingdom of the giants and destroying their world and its archstone was intentionally paralleled in DS 2 with its story of Vendrick seeking power in the lands of the giants and ultimately suffering greatly for what he unleashes.

[@hardhat5406]

Seeing an art competition from you, you just know you have no fucking chance because the artists participating in this are on a whole other level.

[@argoth231]

6th world to the north ruled by giants reminds me of what happened in dark souls 2

[@spartan3924]

The opening cutscene features a large amount of mages with the long lit staffs going to where the giant demons are fighting, looking at all of the hints here it would look like the giants were proficient with magic and the tribal design suggests being in touch with nature, the arch-demon is like a giant tree and source of energy, the fight in the opening cutscene could be the initial outbreak of demons and the giant's servants trying to stem the tide, the giants themselves could be conduits that were transformed into the demons due to their closeness with nature as the natural order was upset or they could still be in their temple, murdered do Allant could access the great old one and magic items related.

[@catlxver4228]

This remake is gonna be lit af

[@porci751]

the image in the archstone somewhat makes it feel like the giants are conquered, and maybe subservient to humans: "the giant's hands are crossed and extended don, reminiscent of how a prosoners hand would be binded, and the soldiers have their weapons risen and ready and are facing toward the "prisoner from each side of their supposedly binded hands, as if they're trapping and guarding her. While there are also guards depicted in the Boletaria archstone, those have their spears pointing up and not ready, in common "guard the king" fashion, also, the king depicted has a shield and sword of him, further suggesting that he is being protected, and not imprisoned. Maybe the process of "discovering" the temple and "adquiring" soul arts actually involved conquering and looting it. Plus, if there are a bunch of hero knights alive in boletaria at the same time, it stands to reason that they be involved in some kind of recent war.

[@slavbroccoli]

Can we all just realize that during the ps5 stream 90% of people said elden ring upon this trailer until the title card

[@slavbroccoli]

So sad :(

[@chewface]

I knew it was Demon's Souls the moment I saw the shadow of the dragon flying over the landscape. Because I played the original back in 2009 and the opening cinema is almost scene for scene.

[@darthrinkus9628]

@@slavbroccoli I thought it was. I didnt get into souls until DS 3 came out. After I beat it 3 times, I bought bloodborne, ds2, ds1 remastered, and later sekiro when it came out. Never got a chance to play Demon's Souls, but now I do and I'm so HYPED

[@slavbroccoli]

@@chewface (in a snarky voice) actually its the old one so neneghahjs

[@cindervile]

@@chewface that corpse was the giveaway for me, too. then that operattic voice singing the theme that my friends and i would sing to each other tauntingly, just over a decade ago...

[@simpott]

I could listen to you talk about anything but I'm glad it's about this series - and you've explained it so much that it's just that more interesting.

[@backspaceninja9860]

I always thought the 6th Archstone was Dark Souls since there are a lot of giants there. Artorias, Smough, Ornstein, Sif etc...

[@profbruin]

Personally, I like the idea that the Giants kept knowledge of a single fire-based soul art, to help them survive in the frigid limits. It was passed down from generation to generation in a tome or through a mural or some such, and that's how Allant rediscovered soul arts.

[@poopikins]

If Demon's Souls Remake is a day one release, I'll be all over that PS5 pre-order

[@HellGatyr]

Too bad i think launch title between horizon or spiderman The reasons is simple, both game have great record for fastest selling game in first 3 weeks (past 3 millions copy sold) With that bundling with game its great strategy, my bet is spiderman cuz the game is family friendly and famous perfect for holiday presents

[@mcgruber]

@@HellGatyr Well, guess you were wrong.

[@HellGatyr]

@@mcgruber im not, miles morales first then demon souls, after that horizon But as ps5 only yes im wrong, they did put miles on ps4 too good move by sony

[@oneupdawg]

Looking at this, in retrospect of Elden Ring, you can see this world would be like the Mountaintops of Giants

[@kianh4503]

Demon souls looks like such an amazing game and it's a shame i wasn't able to play it on the ps3 thank god for the remaster.

[@r4iled679]

Play it on rpcs3. Its playable even im 4k with 60fps

[@dba9640]

the original is so much better than the remake

[@brandonwright9531]

Yes another art competition, the last one was amazing and featured some truly inspired pieces

[@teaandtolkien]

I'm at my Northern Limit for waiting on Elden Ring updates! Do you think it's stuck in development hell?

[@Zayindjejfj]

I could be wrong but... we were supposed to get reveals during the ps5 reveal. But covid made that impossible. I think Elden Ring is going alright, just that everything going on in the world is making it impossible for them to work as fast as they need to. I think the time frame is scheduled further back to offset them not being able to work properly. A lot of games have been having this issue. Some games didn't even get released on time just because of covid.

[@AscendantStoic]

I'd hardly call it development hell, game only started development in 2017 and they were working on Sekiro at the early stages of Elden Ring, also don't forget Covid and working from home slows development significantly, not to mention it's From's first open world game so it's a massive undertaking to try to fit the handcrafted approach of Dark Souls worlds to a map as large as the latest Zelda or Assassin's Creed game.

[@A7OldRscplayer]

I imagine it'll come out 2021, hopefully march like Sekiro

[@AscendantStoic]

@@A7OldRscplayer I expect they will show gameplay and announce Elden Ring release date during the timeframe of TGS 2020 (which probably will be canceled), so instead expect a showcase of upcoming Japanese games on KZbin similar to the PS5 event.

[@muffinman2546]

Just remember... No Man's Sky also had a silent development cycle...

[@KillerTacos54]

Awesome! These art competitions are my absolute favourite. It’s surreal seeing how creative and talented people are in this amazing community

[@09167]

gonna cry my eyes out if after all this hype for the new area, the company is like, oh no we aren't doing anything with a new area, just remaking the game

[@JohnyMCness]

Dont get your hopes up...the area was cut rather early appearantly...its just not a whole lot to actually go on unless fromsoft actually goes in on it

[@quinnatoc2770]

@Lain Sigh, From does not own DeS, Sony does. If From didn't have any concept then they wouldn't have even made the area, let alone a few enemies for the area. All this info belongs to Sony, who have trusted Bluepoint to reimagine the game in their own perspective, ie: they can make the 6th archstone whatever the hell they like to match the new style.

[@ryulanda9399]

Welp

[@yoshaa7416]

Hey vaati just wanted to say I love your videos, the way you edit them, how interesting everything about the souls series is, and keep up the good work👍🏻👍🏻

[@brasssquire2672]

It would be cool if the giants in the northern limit looked like the giants from Dark Souls 2

[@Blackhart-7]

OMG, you saw that intro?! THIS GAME IS SO OPEN WORLD I SWEAR!!!

[@Marcuscaravan]

Just a thought, I'm not sure if this is standard procedure.. But shouldn't the artists receive a cut of the profits from the sale of the art book, rather than just a copy of the book itself?

[@Broockle]

The Artists will definitely appreciate the exposure, and it's definitely worth their time to join the competition regardless. Publishing a book is a considerable effort and time investment as well so you can kinda see it either way. I guess people would only begin to care if the books made an obscene amount of money ;D

[@TheTrashman9]

@@Broockle yea but exposure doesnt put food on the table.

[@cannibalismshouldbelegal2941]

@@TheTrashman9 people are not competing in art competitions like these to put food on the table, that's what people have jobs for... exposure is most definitely worth the effort of making art to go into the book, that much is undeniable.

[@FarewellRocketShip1]

@@cannibalismshouldbelegal2941 but someone is making profit off the book and its not the artists lol. Putting the book together is nothing if not for the art inside

[@bigmoviegamer1037]

I respect the decision not to bring this archstone to life in the remake, but I wish Bluepoint could work with From Software to make it as a DLC, would be cool.

[@graviticsoul4248]

I’m still hoping that they sometime…

[@generalwing1011]

No one: Literally no one: KZbin Auto-Captions: 'sole arts' *inhale* I see the spirit of Miyazaki dwells deep within KZbin caption algorithm.

[@mircodellegrazie4710]

Now I know what I'm gonna dedicate myself to this summer

[@FreedomAndPeaceOnly]

I hope for something like *_" Darksouls Ultimate "_* a mega game containing every single Dark Souls in linear fashion, with all DLC's etc. and a remastered fightingstyle. Needless to say it would need to be PC only.

[@HijoDeDios999]

lol ok nerd

[@leedonghae668]

ngl that sounds really good, if slightly insane lol

[@funny-freshchips1684]

Why Pc only tho ?

[@maxt5319]

The PC only bit is what makes it likely to never ever happen. Why waste time and money on that for limited returns?

[@igornaimoli7321]

@@paultyson8896 do you know that you can use the controller on pc right?

[@crazedpostdoc]

I think it'd be really cool if the giant area wasn't actually lost to demons. The giants are portrayed as a mighty race so what if they were just in constant conflict with the demons instead of just wiped out by them like the other 5 arch stones. After all, it seems that killing even a single giant is a great achievement so the entire race being destroyed seems unlikely. Side note: The giant guys in the valley of defilement may be sickly giants. They did take in outcasts from everywhere. I believe the tower knight was a human but only became large after he became a demon. These big guys in world 5 have no explanation tho...

[@derekmyers7600]

I was curious and looked into the pastebin details for this contest. I know this turned into a bit of a rant but as a freelance artist I hate stuff that takes advantage of artists. If having your work potentially "featured" is enough of a reward for you then pay no mind, but if you're an artist just starting out, or are a little inexperienced, some of this might be helpful. This "contest" sounds an awful lot like spec work to me. Create artwork for free without a guarantee of being paid and also automatically give away licensing rights for the artwork to be used in a book just by submitting your work. Nothing against anyone who sees value in spending the time to create some cool artwork, but I can almost guarantee if your work is good enough to win you shouldn't be doing work for free with the HOPES of being paid. Before you enter do yourself a favor and take a few minutes to research speculative work before potentially spending hours creating and getting emotionally invested in contests like this. Contests like this aren't horrible, if you win or place near the top, but for the vast majority of people entering it's a waste of time when their work doesn't get selected. If you're cool with that risk and confident your work will win, then great. Good luck and I wish you the best. Try to think about it from his perspective though. With this contest he gets tons of free artwork and can pick and choose the best pieces and use them in his book at a later date. He avoids commissioning an artist to create the work, and avoids paying that artist licensing fees to use their work (simply by saying "you are giving permission for me to potentially include your art in an art book I'm endeavoring to make." That's just bs, get paid if someone sees value and wants to use your work). Take this and multiply it by every unique piece of art in the book. The book will be filled with amazing artwork for sure, but its artwork he also got for pennies on the dollar compared to what it would cost to actually commission a good artist to create the work. The book is then pure profit on his end after paying to have the book to be printed. In this scenario he's a middle man profiting off hard working artists who have more than likely not been compensated as they rightly should have been for their time and efforts. Spec works hurts artists, and the creative profession as a whole, because it devalues art and the people who live off their work while others profit.

[@Sensko]

THANK YOU.

[@cannibalismshouldbelegal2941]

if you are living off of your artwork, you should not be competing in a competition which the top prize is a measly 400 dollars. the exposure is the best part about this, if you're worried about money, you might as well just not compete right? people have jobs for a reason man, professional artists most likely arent going around looking for small prize pool competitions, and if you are starting out, you need a portfolio built up to be able to receive a steady stream of art requests right? in what way is this, 'taking advantage of the artists'. people who are starting off should be happy to be able to be put in front of millions right? and i guess if your art isn't good enough you wont get exposure, but that isn't the fault of the person hosting the competition, that is the result of the free market, right? idk, I'm no artist, but it sure seems like this is a great deal, especially for an aspiring artist who truly has what it takes to make it big. not like its some business ran competition, just a guy who wants to give a platform to fellow souls lovers, or at least that's my take

[@dcgregorya5434]

Look at it differently, if he gets enough quality entries from people who don't turn down spec work and find some kind of value in doing this then the bar was never hire enough to commission an artist. There's a reason video game programmers are some of the if not the absolute lowest paid programmers around.

[@peterisbb]

I love these art challenges. Super excited to see what comes of it

[@ukguy]

I wonder if the Tower Knight was one of the giants from the northern lands?

[@voldmerot]

Nah he was one of Allant's inner circle knights. EDIT: Later corrupted into the form you're now familiar with.

[@somethingbanter]

it was a big missed opportunity for them to not do DLC for the remake. I mean, I guess technically it's still not too late. I think it would really be good for the game industry as a whole if we could normalize updating older titles that are still operating on current hardware. it would set a really good expectation and revitalize interest in a game, maybe even make new sales.

[@peridusk6128]

Anyone else worried about how seemingly none of the artists in the artbook will get royalties from it?

[@waterpups10]

Yes, very much actually

[@waterpups10]

@Lain true, but that doesn't take away that this is less of an art contest and more Vaati paying 2000$ to have an art book made he will get all the royalties from while making none of the contents

[@peridusk6128]

@Lain not at all, vaati will get the money from this not the artists

[@Nicolas-fo8qd]

@@waterpups10 Yes I'm kind of bothered by the fact that vaati will make thousands of dollars on this book while the artists will make at most $400 and that's only the people at the #1 spot, with the top 10s making 150 or less and much of his book being comprised of works of people who will make $0 on the book. It feels weird that one member of the community can just put together the works of 100s of people and make bank while most of them get nothing. Idk.

[@cannibalismshouldbelegal2941]

​@@Nicolas-fo8qd this is a pretty small brain take ngl, the artists are getting free publishing and a chance at a cash prize at only the cost of their free time. Its not like putting together and selling the book is without cost, and surely having your name put into a book for free simply because you had a good time making some art about a game you love is more than enough compensation. thousands of dollars isn't making bank man, there is a cost to do these things, and i don't think making a few thousand off of an art book is that big a deal, especially when you consider the audience that he is putting these artists in front of, at only the cost of their free time. its not like they are getting nothing out of competing, there is a clear benefit in publicity, and a chance at winning money if the art is judged well. and in all honesty, if i was into making art like this, i think i would be perfectly fine with a small cash prize if my art is being put up in front of a million people, many of which are likely looking for artists to the commission. well anyways, tldr: its not like he's making a fuck ton of money off of it, and in all honesty the publicity is worth more than the cash prize, or even just the free time required to produce the art.

[@phillipbugh7836]

Ive only ever flirted with the souls series until recently, having finally beat Dark Souls 3 a few weeks ago and only having played a tad bit of DS 2 and Sekiro. Somehow a video of yours made it into the algorithm for me, and MAN am I so happy it did. Your videos are amazing and so well done, i've been sharing the hell out of them and bingeing them myself. Thanks for the amazing content Vaati!

[@moccus3466]

you know, over the past 2 months I've really improved my art skills to a commissionable degree but having to compete with the other artists from previous competitions makes me hollow.

[@christopherglace]

Imagine the fantastical visualization of new Soul game created in UE5 in tandem with rich lores and greater emphasis on world exploration.

[@weirdguy8422]

they confirmed it won't make in to the remake...this sucks...

[@slicedolives9902]

I believe it’ll be a dlc

[@hypercombo7202]

Not only do I want that artbook. I NEED the audio version with commentary. This mans voice is perfect.

[@Lady_Vengeance]

Funny how much Dark Souls 2’s Ivory Crown DLC ripped from this zone

[@acedias12]

Fortress in a snowy land is barely an original thing to begin with.

[@lamellarm6546]

Dorje Phurba Sounds a bit simple for a copied idea.

[@muffinman2546]

Bruh, all souls games features a fortress in every area except when it's catacombs or swamp.

[@starvein8841]

So pumped for all this new Souls content from our boy

[@kipphz]

2 Vaati videos in te same month? Maybe 2020 isn't going so bad

[@SaladDongs]

By the way, at the beginning of the cutscene, she says "we entrusted SIX elders". But at the end she says "the giantS", as in plural. Maybe there's something there? Probably just a mistake, but it might be fun to explore taking that at face value.

[@SaladDongs]

Also, notice how the area is called The Northern Lands, also plural, perhaps implying that all those concept enemies are all giants, but native to different realms; still in the north.

[@EndChineseGenocide]

When do we get the art!

[@silentlung]

I can't wait for that book to come out!

[@addictedtochocolate920]

2020 was a bad year in almost every aspect, and gaming isn't exactly the exception (y'all know what recently happened with the Last of Us 2). But the announcement of this game was like that last HP left after a cruel beating by some powerful boss

[@cheese5081]

Golfing Game of the year goes to TLOU2

[@tomrieger7253]

Well, Final fantasy VII Remake is such a good game as well - at least in my oppinion. :)

[@user-yh6je7nh3e]

Don't forget the NieR:Replicant remaster announcement. For me 2020 was totally like "I'll give you what you dream about (NieR and Demon's Souls on modern systems) but f&@k up everything in return".

[@Athropod101]

Ah yes, TLOU2 is the reason 2020 was bad for gaming, despite the fact that Ori 2, DOOM Eternal, FF7, and many other great games dropped, on top of DeS announcement

[@yibtstill]

REEEEEE FEEEEEMALE PROTAGONIST BOMB THE RATINGS BOIS THOTS WILL NOT REPLACE US

[@muffinman2546]

The giants from Dark Souls 2 are definitely the same giants from the Northern Lands in Demon Souls since their faces bear a striking resemblance to the Old One's gaping maw. As if the giants are somewhat the successful child offspring between humanity and the Old One. It is also to note that those faceless, black, armless figures look alike with the "Giant" tree in DS2 & DS3 that interacts with the seed of a Giant tree. Why does an entity exist that has the body of a human, the face of the Old One and can live on as a tree as though their souls persist in the manifestation of a memory as in DS2? - That sequence where you go back in time (proving they coven some power of the Old One) could be a way of insight via the seed of the Giant Tree + it's resembling appearance. Also considering we never got to explore the fabled 'distant land of the giants'. All these coincidences just lines up too perfectly. Did the giants conquer the old lands in Demon Souls? Did humanity merely re-emerge in a completely different land from that of Demon Souls? Remember. The giants "crossed the sea and landed ON THE *_NORTHERN SHORES_* of Drangleic" in their invasion.

[@Evilflesh666]

There should be lightning reindeers

[@bobsanders7523]

Ridden by solair

[@kingcole5977]

@love_2_kick, Nervously gulps a flask of estus, with a 100 yard stare: "It was a routine patrol, when this snowstorm kicked up. I was blinded, but heard those damned hooves beating down towards me. They were in the snow, man. *They* *were* *in* *the* *snow!* "

[@zappbrannigan4170]

Please no! Not again!

[@kairossorkian1180]

I love how games with enormous amount of lore there is always someone like you!

[@dsjaks6983]

I want to play demon's souls so much it's gonna kill me

[@r4iled679]

Install rpcs3 and just play demons souls right now

[@chocobo_3414]

Don't go hollow

[@muffinman2546]

"Don't go hollow", like bruh, I already am with the high chance of PS5 exclusivity. I have no qualms or hatred against it, but *_REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE_*

[@pious83]

6:35 Noting how the architecture here looks just like this unused content. It was still referenced visually in the final game, at least.

[@jmdesantis]

Still hoping (and expecting, almost) this will be DLC in the remake.

[@chewface]

BluePoint Games added an extra secret in the Shadow of the Colossus remake...with the secret castle basement with the ultimate sword....so there's a chance they'll add something for the Demon's Souls fans out there. An entirely new level might be a bit much, though. We'll hafta wait and see.

[@jmdesantis]

@@chewface I understand that. But it IS a remake (from the ground up) and the assets were there. I don't think they'd have to "invent" too much. But we'll see what happens.

[@jmdesantis]

@@chewface Plus, it would be nice if we could get a couple more armor sets, another catalyst and talisman or two. Putting that in the Northern Limits would expand the game without messing too much with the source. Don't get me wrong, I love Demon's Souls (even prefer some of it's lore), but I've felt it needed an update long before DSR was a thing.

[@chewface]

@@jmdesantis The Gloom Set is where it's at!!!! ^_^

[@jmdesantis]

@@chewface Yes! Yurt...the first Lautrec. And more intimidating. It was something different to have a whole side quest where you and another character are assassinating the entire list of NPCs (or near enough).

[@brimstonesulfur5013]

Supposedly the Crown of the Ivory King DLC for DS2 utilized a lot of Ideas they had for it

[@natehaupt7865]

I don't normally comment but this was driving me crazy. You keep saying Rydell's name wrong. It's Rye-del. You keep saying Rid'e'elle. Not sure why it bothered me so much.

[@KartoffelKonig]

I always thought that Rydell is pronounced „raidel“

[@BiggLesane]

0 comments. what shall I write

[@muffinman2546]

A comment that paradoxes itself by being the first comment of the video and yet mentions that there are none. ;D

[@undertaker9138]

Man I'm so hyped for that artbook, definitely buying it the moment it becomes available. Good luck with the competition everyone!

[@MrFusionCube]

Does Rule 34 count?

[@Darkvileblood]

Good luck for those who are participating! I love seeing some great art!

[@kwbfm8619]

Very enjoyable piecing together of lore

[@jessenelson4154]

I like to believe that the giants destroyed their arch stone themselves to stop a full on human invasion. Since giants live longer lives and have longer memories, it makes more sense that they would be the ones who remembers their arch stone and the nexus, and knew they would be safe as long as nobody ever found the nexus and uncovered any of its secrets… and then the humans found the nexus, so they destroyed their arch stone in hopes that they would avoid both the humans and whatever consequences come with them learning the secrets of soul arts