What’s Happening To Android?

[@thomasfriedl3137]

How did you not mention the demise of Huawei? Millions of people switched from Huawei to Apple

[@kingdeedee]

Very important factor. Huawei was close to cracking the code and becoming the undisputed king in the premium Android space. They would have had crazy marketshare alongside massive profit margins something which Samsung has tried and failed to truly achieve for so long.

[@maplenerd22]

@@kingdeedee No Huawei wouldn't be considered premium Android, because they tout it as their own Harmony OS operating. Even if all evidence suggest they just copied android and changed it's name, it would still be considered as its own operating system, not Android.

[@kingdeedee]

@@maplenerd22 I don't know (or care) what they're doing today, but they rose to prominence selling Android phones. Maybe they would have become successful on their own OS if the US never blacklisted them, but fact of the matter is Huawei at its peak was successful internationally because of their Android phones (of course this comment does not apply to China)

[@kelsey_roy]

Huawei is still the no.1 phone in China. It has 1.6B users

[@blah2blah65]

Although Huawei can be compelled to give the Chinese government any advantage their government wishes, I still wish the people who work for Huawei all the prosperity and comforts in life that they can have. Especially the poorer factory workers... their executives like ours can f* themselves.

[@bevvy.bee9]

My biggest reason for sticking to Android is that as a developer, developing on Android is a lot easier and I am able to install any useful apks not on the app store

[@southcoastinventors6583]

Sad part is most people wouldn't even know what a apk means still hoping someone will release a new Linux distro for mobile so I can run everything since the newest phones can run cyberpunk at a low frame rate.

[@Jan93Banan]

Are you writing native apps? I had a short career as a professional mobile app dev, about a year and a half. I was writing apps in react native for both android and ios. I didnt really see a big difference between the two using this method. As long as I was using popular dependencies that was working for both, it was really simple to add them to the plist on ios, almost easier than messing with the manifest and gradle and whatnot on android. I was working on a mac so I had access to the surprisingly fast and responsive iphone simulation built into the mac. Simulating android phones were not as good so I relied more on physical devices for testing

[@ToonSheik]

As both a native iOS and Android developer (not reactive native), both platforms are equally easy to develop for. Besides there as been a lot of convergence between two. Kotlin and Swift are now very similar, Compose and Swift UI are very close, the ecosystem and general mobile dev philosophies have become so close that I can switch between them pretty seamlessly. You can almost architecture both platforms the same way for the same app. Besides, if you are actually a developer, you can install any app on you iPhone since you have a developer certificate.

[@Endermania]

@@southcoastinventors6583 Isnt .apk the equivalent of .exe but for android?

[@Endermania]

And i also stick to android because i love to download apps from shady websites (yes, i know what i'm doing) and for some reasons i can't do that on an iphone wich is stupid.

[@janosd4nuke]

Android did fell of a cliff. But I'd rather go off-grid, than use apple devices.

[@llydrsn]

Agree on the points why Android is losing out. The pricing is one part, of course. Performance really is not that distinguishable anymore, aside from the most serious users. My biggest complaint is with customization: they played Apple's game by following them in taking out expandable storage, removable batteries, charging bricks, etc. Instead of being the one putting pressure on Apple, they followed Apple and tried to be like them. Samsung even had the gall to throw shade at Apple about not removing the charger on their boxes, but they quickly followed suit. The things that made Android the anti-Apple has been slowly stripped off. If they have basically the same stuff as Apple, then people would then considering going the other way instead of Android having them on their hands.

[@vision_bank1]

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[@Omar-kl3xp]

I also have said the same thing but if you said that you get a lot of backlash from fanboys,android phones are getting more similar to iPhones then ever before even this new update ,android 14 is very similar to iOS 16 -17 ,android removed expandable battery,sd card slot ,headphone jack slot and charger from the box right after when Apple did that ,and the worst thing is Samsung make fun of Apple about those thing when less then a year later they are doing the same exact thing ,Also android used to be cheaper now phones like Samsung are even more expensive then iPhones ,there are a lot of factors why people are switching .

[@blablubb1234]

Sometimes removing feature is just the right thing to do, not just following Apple. Want good waterproofing? You need to ditch the removable back plate. You want cheaper shipping and marketing “for the environment”? Remove the charging brick (and nowadays everyone has one so there’s just no need to include one). It’s just that Apple is brave enough (and wealthy enough) to take on that big initial risk.

[@faccezitCroc]

@@Omar-kl3xpI agree with everything you said. I have an old LG phone. Or at least 5 years ago and I used it litterly all of my middle school year and then lost it on the end of middle. It was pretty chep but it also looked premium and the UI was perfect and the performance was good and I wouldn’t tell if it’s bad or good bc idc. I’m so sad I lost it. It had a headphone Jack and a SD card slot (not that I used the SD card slot cause I didn’t know what it did back then 😂😂) man Android is good back then but they followed apples trend. 😢

[@BocchiTheLock]

Yup. If I’m going to be giving all those features up anyways, I’m just going to go to apple for the iPhone. At least I get better apps and updates this way. If Samsung stops trying to be apple of android, I’ll switch back. I don’t see that happening though

[@hugoleyton785]

This is missing an importante point: reliability. Support in the lifetime of the device is also relevant today more than ever. Overall good video!

[@TheVinceVoice]

I agree. I had my iPhone 6S for like 7 years... I switched to the iPhone 13 after support ended. Androids usually have like 3 years of support only...

[@furdiburd]

​@@TheVinceVoicejust use fairphone 4 or 5... 10 year support with 4 android version

[@kingdeedee]

​@@furdiburd I'm not familiar with Fairphone's devices so I'm not trying to say they're bad, but with the way startup companies come and go, I wouldn't be shocked if such a small niche phone maker with such bold claims, that hasn't been around that long was dead and gone in 5 years (would love to be wrong though, they seem cool enough). Point is, that sounds like a marketing ploy and even if it were true I don't see a reason to put any real stake in it

[@FBCDC]

​@@TheVinceVoice new Android phones are getting longer support now. For example, Samsung promise to provide 5 years of software support + 1 year of security support

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

@@TheVinceVoice The problem with android is that OS updates are applied by the phone's manufacturer instead of the OS developer. The update files get messed and modified by the phone manufacturer. Many android phones don't allow to install stock android. Imagine buying for example a lenovo Laptop with Windows. Instead of getting OS updates from Microsoft they come from Lenovo. Instead of a windows start menu you would get "Lenovo Super Menu with backdoor premium". A clean install of windows is not possible, jecause of soldered memory and locked down EFI. Would you trust this device? I certainly would not. With an Iphone, the phone manufacture and OS developer is the same. The update files don't get messed with or delayed. If every android phone would get it's updates from Google directly and with 6+ years of support, i would consider it again. I only use a smartphone for my business, for my private life i don't, because i want to digital detox a bit in my free time. I don't need high performance or a good camera. Just a device that can open up conversations and emails. Safety and privacy is very important.

[@RAGAJALANG]

As an Android user, it bothers me a lot to see how companies choose to go with 'the Apple way' instead of keep doing what had been working for them years prior. I get how they want to achieve the perceived higher status with the pricing of their flagship models or anything, but removing accessories (including charging brick) from the boxes is not the correct way. Also, as much as I enjoy the flexible and customisable nature of Android phones, I want them to put more effort into app supports. I don't even use Instagram that much, but I'd be lying if I say I don't envy how Instagram and many more apps look and feel better in iPhones.

[@wr2899]

They shoot themselves in the foot because consumers notice they are copying Apple and that gives Apple the higher status.

[@caty863]

Android is customizable you say. Have you tried to root an android phone lately? when was the last time you could swap a battery? where is the audio jack?

[@小笼包-m3o]

I decided to give nothing phone a try after 5 years on iOS, and I don't see much difference tbh. Instagram feels the same ( at least to consume content, cuz i don't really post there ) never used facetime and cared about iMessage. So to me, as a new user android has a few very nice features iphone doesn't have, and the only thing that bothers me about it is that you can't pop and see messages without reading them, and how freaking scary looking emojis are.

[@sprockkets]

Instagram is still a thing being better on apple? Weird. It's just another good service that was ruined by Zuck. I stopped using it years ago and just use the web site so as to avoid their ads.

[@PrivilegedJay]

as an iphone user if you got an android, it is not that serious lol

[@brickman409]

My biggest gripe that I have been having with Android phones lately is that they have been basically copying Apple in all of the wrong ways. I've noticed this as early as the Galaxy S6. In that phone they took out the removable battery and the SD card slot. I remember being very upset about that, and that was all the way back in 2015. The next model, the S7, brought back the SD card slot, but it still didn't have the removable battery. Eventually they removed the SD card slot again in the S21 and haven't brought it back since. That to me is one of the biggest features of Android, and I don't think any of the major flagships this year have it. My current phone is an S20, which is the last Samsung Galaxy to have an SD card slot. It's been 3 years since I got it and I'm hesitant to upgrade to anything because of this. And then of course there's stuff like removing the headphone jack, not including a charger in the box, etc. that Apple started and for some reason Android developers followed. Seems to me like it would be such an easy thing to just not do that stuff and they could easily regain market share.

[@stylesisdaname1160]

Yea the only new flagship with the sd card and headphone jack is that Sony 1 v phone.

[@sprockkets]

Same here. IDK, with storage being so high, I don't really need the SD card, but it still is nice to have. I also don't use the jack anymore, and my new car doesn't even have a input for it either. It's not that Samsung doesn't offer a decent phone with an SD card slot, it's just that you lose wireless charging, esim and Dex if you get it vs the S23.

[@readifdumb]

The difference between flagship phones nowadays is so minute on the specification list. It really does just come down to usability. iPhone is dramatically easier to use than any other phone I’ve tried. Everything takes less clicks, is more automated, more simple, easier to understand, etc. also because so many people have iPhones, not being able to use iMessage or FaceTime or Airdrop with your friend or family becomes a huge inconvenience to the user. Instead of blaming the iPhone user for not having a Android or specific messaging apps, it is usually shifted the blame on Android, where it feels like they’re asking you to go out of your way to use email, messenger, Skype, Discord, or other platforms to do what an iPhone can do with another iPhone out the gate.

[@sprockkets]

@@readifdumb "Instead of blaming the iPhone user for not having a Android or specific messaging apps, it is usually shifted the blame on Android, where it feels like they’re asking you to go out of your way to use email, messenger, Skype, Discord, or other platforms to do what an iPhone can do with another iPhone out the gate." Maybe if apple didn't lock users out of using other sms apps or didn't lock users into a walled garden, this wouldn't be an issue. Thankfully imessage is only a USA thing - the rest of the world isn't dumb enough to let apple rule their entire lives. "iPhone is dramatically easier to use than any other phone I’ve tried." ONLY if you live by their rules. As soon as you want to not do anything they like, it's a complete bitch. And they claim it's all in the name of "security." Nonsense.

[@readifdumb]

@@sprockkets Most people have Apple phones in my country, and I’m not in the US. Apple is the most dominating phone brand. Also yes, i did already say that it’s Apple fault for how messaging works. What I’m essentially saying is that because i have more people close to me with an iPhone, for ease of use I need to also have an iPhone. Yes, if you want customisation, side loading, custom ROMs, etc. It’s a bitch. However the latter 2 most people don’t need or use, and customisation has been getting better in iPhones case. Other than that, I can’t really think of much that is an issue.

[@MegasXLR]

The moment Android phones bring back what customers actually liked them for in the first place is when they'll get more popular. I don't know a person who would say they don't want a SD Card slot if they have one, same for removable batteries. Right now Android phones are the same as iPhones in that regard. Only difference is the OS.

[@frankreynolds9930]

With base storage now 128gb, most people don't care about SD card anymore.

[@MegasXLR]

@@frankreynolds9930 tend to agree about the SD card as I've got 512 internal (but also have a card slot..) but it's still nice to be able to quickly pop out the card and put it elsewhere i suppose (I've never done that myself but hear people find it useful)

[@thebigboss2233]

Removable batteries will be coming back to all devices because of EU regulations soon. If we use Samsung as an example, they've spent more time trying to imitate Apple rather than set their own trends. Getting rid of the headphone jack was one of the biggest blunders on their part.

[@frankreynolds9930]

@thebigboss2233 Not giving chargers is way bigger blunder. Most people moved to wireless buds due to convenience and a USB c dongle can easily work with any wired pair with even better sound.

[@MegasXLR]

@@frankreynolds9930 the point is for a thousand bucks & more you have to get everything in the box lol even if you don't need it. 200 dollar phones have a jack but a 1200 one doesn't.. eh

[@MightyDantheman]

I choose to use Android because it can do way more, but mainly because I hate Apple as a company.

[@zxcvbnm2000coolness1]

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[@5wjdeds3ad]

Android is copying apple

[@cloud_stryfe]

Me2

[@ktokolwiek8545]

apple is late with most of the features that android had for years

[@redderman]

​@@5wjdeds3adit's not copying the lawsuits tho

[@kingdeedee]

The truth is Apple targeted consumer psyche before they targeted their targeted their competition. While all the Android OEMs spent years just trying to outdo the iPhone (and each other), Apple focused on providing what they already knew their users wanted based on existing products like the Mac and iPod. Their only goal was to make the iPhone it's own device for the Apple consumer, then they worried about the bells and whistles later

[@southcoastinventors6583]

Glad phones are getting powerful enough to run desktop os natively so we will not have to put up with nonsense of not being able to run everything.

[@_Circus_Clapped_]

Androids have been ahead in terms of software and customizability idc what anyone says about apple I don't like buying half bricked products that treat users as children, also their data recovery is garbage and their hardware is so much worse than a basic android phone but hey, I am not switching until they either A.) Make parts easier to replace B.) they stop trying to stonewall people that understand how software works

[@Pushing_Pixels]

Apple focuses on selling products to people who are already Apple customers. They're about keeping you in their walled garden. Every time they get around to implementing something that's already been on Android for years they act as if they just invented it. If you watch their announcements and marketing, they never actually acknowledge that other phones or competitors exist. That would break the spell for the people already inside, by letting them know there was something outside the wall. I say this as a long-term iPhone user, but it's the same with all of their products.

[@Mrdinomist]

@@Pushing_Pixelsi disagree as people that care about specs are not the average Apple users. People buy iPhones cause they look nice, feel premium and are good status symbols . And mind you I am one of the Apple users but that’s mainly because I like the software experience and all other gadgets that go with it. But however i am far from the average user that doesn’t know anything about specs

[@kingdeedee]

@@Pushing_Pixels that’s all very true and the way they do all of that stuff always has more of a subconscious effect on users as they’re very subtle about it. For example even something like how they now allowed facetime on non apple devices also serves to strengthen the walled garden. They made the process of joining a facetime call from an android so ridiculous by making it seem like the android user is a stranger (using the “Maybe” tag) and even when they try to join the link you send them, the iPhone user still has to “allow” the android user to join. They basically found a way to recreate the green vs blue bubble effect with FaceTime. Another recent thing worth noting nowadays is the “sign in with Apple” feature. They’ve made it so easy to sign in and manage so many logins on 3rd party sites and apps from an Apple device, but then they made it so that “sign in with Apple” is a total pain in the neck to do from non Apple devices. It happens that I’m an iPhone/Mac/iPad user myself and I use these features pretty much daily, but the business person in me can never help but think about it

[@foca2002]

Fun fact this is only valid in the US. Android has gained market share worldwide and even in the USA. Samsung has sold 276mi smartphones in 2022, Apple 243, Xiaomi 220. Nobody outside of the US uses SMS or FaceTime, FaceTime is used almost exclusively in the USA they have 125mi users, this pale in comparison with WhatsApp 2 billion or Telegram 700 million. IOS market share is in decline in all markets I don't know where you got your numbers.

[@GeraldDeBelen]

His source was a reliable website. But looking at the data per continent, only in North America and Oceania (includes Australia and New Zealand) where iOS has greater market share than Apple.

[@foca2002]

@@weird-guy yes, but this is because cumulative sales, if one year IPhone have 1Bi users and the next year 1,24Bi the IOS user base has grown, but if they sell less than in previous year they lost market share.

[@Warp2090]

"ios has greater market share than apple"@@GeraldDeBelen

[@judgementaljellyfish0279]

What are you talking about? The statistics were literally there. Are you like dumb?

[@tehyonglip9203]

In China (and also Japan), most of the youths prefer Apple instead of their own national brand or any android devices because it is more intuitive and easy to use.

[@ÁronBeňadik]

I do like iPhones more, but let me just say that you shaped a lot of information into the direction of Apple. For example when you talked about price: Yes, there are Android phones more expensive than iPhones, but there are also ones, which are -->almost

[@s.bamahfoodh]

However compared to the beginning, no android was expensive as the iPhone. And for many people Samsung is the only trustworthy representative of android.

[@tenidas7064]

I don't mean to be condescending, only curious, but which Android phones are just as capable as the iPhones while being hundreds of dollars less? Because from what I have experienced myself, nothing but the Galaxy S series or the Google Pixel series can even match the iPhone, and even then it's still very even.

[@nebulousstriker7640]

@@tenidas7064 He's talking about people like me. I use a Motorola Moto G8 Power. Yes, I know nowhere as good as Samsungs S series or iphones Pro Max series but for most people those devices aren't really a necessity but a luxury and I still view them that way. My budget phone can sent and recieve phone calls, send sms messages and take mediocre photos. And that's all that's needed to function in society. Btw, I'm currently saving up for a Galaxy S24 Ultra and that is gonna be the second time I'll use a samsung phone from the last time, back when they had touch wiz 🤮

[@Aliens1337]

@@tenidas7064 Probably something like the first generations of OnePlus phones. Half the price of iPhones for specs that is almost as good. This was because OnePlus sold phones directly to people without going through a 3rd party (like T Mobile or Verizon) as well as using invite only as a way to spread words of mouth. This let OnePlus skipped out on marketing and putting that money into hardware.

[@BobRossRightHand]

Shouldn't have crossed the "almost" imo, as tenidas said, IMO there's no android besides Galaxy S and Pixels that can match the iPhone, as soon as the price drops below these phones the camera get's noticeably worse, some random lag/stuttering starts to happen etc

[@OldAR-or5kl]

I feel like there’s another important point that wasn’t touched on: segmentation. Android users can hear about about really cool features coming to Android, just to have to wait a year or more to even get the beta versions of them because each vendor has their own way of doing things

[@jaames]

you mean fragmentation?

[@258Loures]

Nope. Most of Android users are using OEM ROMs that are definitely more feature packed then Vanilla one.

[@giorgio78]

@@258Loures Yeah but tbh it just sucks, you dont actually know what youre getting when buying oneplus, Samsung, Google etc its all different, on an iPhone you just know what your getting in terms of experience

[@LuKiSCraft]

Samsung touch wiz sucks!!! My Galaxy S7 Edge lagged so bad I switched to iPhone and never went back.

[@Airex.69420]

​@@LuKiSCraft looks like bro got scammed

[@raphaelmartins6529]

Android will continue to have more market share because there are countries that most people can't afford an iPhone. Here in Brazil, for example, the cheapest iPhone cost the same as the last year Samsung high end device (S22 Ultra). That means in some tiers, Android doesn't have competition. Some people don't have the luxury of buying the phone they want, they have to buy the one they can afford.

[@pieterrossouw8596]

It's similar in South Africa, but here many people are also opting for refurbished iPhones. Plenty of people buy e.g. an iPhone 11 or 12 today and honestly I think that's a great deal compared to the Galaxy A52 they could have otherwise.

[@raphaelmartins6529]

@@pieterrossouw8596 in Brazil, too. iPhone 11 is the biggest selling iPhone here because poor people buy it. But even the iPhone 11 is more expensive than a new mid-level Android device and some people still can't afford an iPhone 11. So, I don't think iPhone will have more market share than Android here. And people who buy Android phones here in Brazil, they don't necessarily buy because they prefer Android over iPhone, they buy Android because it's what they can afford.

[@iAmSavvi]

​@@pieterrossouw8596 one thing with Africans right now is to be like the Westerners, its same here in Kenya,,,people want the iPhone just because it's "iPhone"

[@romulofiuzaemello]

@@iAmSavviBrazilian here, that’s also happening in Brazil

[@chopper6537]

The developing world, is well.... developing, these middle cass all over the world on average is getting wealthier, so what you say wont be true for too long

[@olafb6445]

I think one point that you've missed out on is that when people were getting just the cheapest phone - like many of the Samsung phones you could have gotten for very silly money - they associate their extremely poor experience with those super cheap phones with the brand. So once a person finds themselves at a place where they want to invest into a good experience they will not be going back to the brand they served them the budget experience.

[@Josh-u8d]

Very true.

[@miamanao]

You said everything.

[@BobRossRightHand]

True, first impression is so important

[@beszt95]

I'll be sticking with Android regardless, but this is all very true. I switched from iPhone to Android in 2019 for customizability and expandable storage, and while it was worth it for the expandable storage alone, Androids now largely aren't much more customizable than iPhones now. From what I've gathered, it's become much easier to install apps not from the app store, and visually the theme options between Android and iOS seem basically on par. Also, some models completely lock down the bootloader, making it impossible to install any kind of custom ROM or app that requires root, making it on par with iPhones in that regard. My current phone is an S20 FE 5G, got it July 2021. Good prices on Androids can be found easily if you browse eBay for relatively recent phones. My phone cost me $300 used as a ~9 month old model, which MSRP'd at $700 iirc. I don't mind the non replaceable battery as much because with AccuBattery it's easy to keep the charge cycles in check and prolong the factory battery's life. I don't mind the lack of headphone jack as much as I thought I would either; Bluetooth headphones can't get tangled up and if I want to use wired, I have the adapter. As long as there continues to be Androids with respectable specs and expandable storage, I'll be sticking with Android. It sucks that all the Androids with removable batteries are nearly unusable except for the most basic of uses (see: Blu View 3, Nokia C100)

[@beszt95]

@@chhoyla That's fine, different people have different wants and interests. They can buy their iPhone for it's seamless integration and smooth software and I'll buy my Android for an unlocked bootloader and expandable storage :)

[@userMB1]

Removable batteries are coming back. Message apps also need to be able to send messages to each other. The EU makes it mandatory. I don't agree with customization being basically the same. As you know, there are a lot of different launchers on Android which can completely alter the look and feel of your phone.

[@beszt95]

@@userMB1 Hopefully all that caries over to the US models as well, and the manufacturers aren't able to find loopholes or lobby to get their anti repair way. I'll believe it when I see it. I'll be honest, I haven't played around with different launchers so I actually didn't know that lol.

[@hilxly]

@@chhoyla are you supid? Paying a huge price for a few more pixel pixels on your camera?

[@hilxly]

@@chhoyla Also you could root your android and do alot of stuff with your android.

[@kirilraychev732]

Android will continue to have it's status as the majority OS simply because of price, choice of brands and openness of the os,all of which are especially relevant on the developing markets too. I've always used Android ever since it came out, mostly budget and midrange phones, I've used IPhone 7 and the XR shortly for a different periods of time and they're pretty good phones too, iPhones are really good phones of course, nobody's doubting that, but i still believe majority of the worlds population will continue using Android.

[@karo3529]

And flexibility

[@KrypteiaXi]

well said. I will never buy Apple unless they open up their ecosystem and bring their prices down to earth.

[@JenNittahl]

Yeah, Android is used by the majority of people, but the reason for this is likely the fact that people in the majority of the worlds countries are too poor to buy an iPhone. You can actually see in statistics, the poorer the country, the higher the android market share. In developed countries the share is around 50/50, while it goes down for iPhone, the poorer the country gets.

[@Josh-ym9vx]

i prefer the simplicity, effectiveness, security and interface of the iPhone and i’m saying this as a person who has come from 4 generations of androids (growing up with them). my first was the blackberry, then a sony Xperia and Samsung S4 and then Samsung J4+. after the J4+, which was a couple of years ago, i realised the gap between apple and android was rapidly shrinking and iPhones were becoming more popular and i dismissed this mostly, however the risk of Huawei that was presented in 2019 and the discontinuation along with the rising price of new samsungs further cemented Android’s inevitable decline to me and the iPhone x would have come out around that time, which saw massive expansion in their brand and status (even tho people shat on the whole notch design). at this point of time, technology has come a long way and me (a 17 year old), the new trend is efficiency not bragging about specs that don’t translate into consumer experience. seeing as how my experience with iphones are much smoother (i tried out my dad and brother’s new samsungs and found the switch staggering for me) it just seems like android users are clinging onto the old tales of the past of which iPhones are just more expensive and just for the brand, where as that’s LITERALLY what androids are marketing themselves to be now - the premium brand. androids became popular from accessibility and performance, and now that almost everyone owns phones and phones have become a much more significant part of our society, i think it’s safe to say iPhone can only go up from here. also, the optimisation and updates for android are more jarring because they can’t really tailor app performance to all different brands of smartphones that go under the android banner meaning their scope is which wider and can’t focus on one device only and i’ve found this to be the case with iPhone’s apps being more optimised for an iPhone. it’s like a car, you can have the power train but if you don’t have the perfect aerodynamics that work for that car, it’s not gonna live up to its full potential. i can go on for longer, but i think these key take aways are enough

[@acwesty]

@@KrypteiaXiI mean, $400 for an iPhone is pretty down to earth in 2023.

[@tropicfanta6213]

I once was a diehard Android user, but the straw finally broke when the Camera of my one of my phones had a software based focusing issue. I waited months for a fix to finally be released by Samsung, but nothing came. It was just one of many things that piled up over the years, things like small and major bugs to Android loosing its ability to access the deeper folder structure without the need of a 3rd party app and root access. Also, it's really convenient to just plop in an Apple Store and having your phone repaired in hours or days instead of having to send your phone halfway around the globe, waiting for weeks just to be told your phone is beyond repairable when a previously separate charging port board borked your whole phone.

[@richardsequeirateixeira]

I will also say the lack of speedy updates. If there is a bug on the iPhone, Apple is likely to send an update in less than a month. In theAndroid world, users are expected to put up with this nonsense.

[@seapanda-117]

Let's keep this quick and simple. Apple has been slowly and steadily gaining features (at a glacial place but still). Android manufacturers have been happy to dump features while raising prices.

[@kokop1107]

Excactly. Truely baffling how these android manufacturers (read samsung) don’t seem to understand that Apple can charge more for it’s brandname itself and that they can not be as lazy and compliant as Apple and charge the same price

[@curious011]

Not true at all. apple owns the world and that should scare the heck out of you. you must have competition or you are a slave to apple and they have all your info and call information.

[@Burn_In_Oled_On_Purpose]

​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​@armamentarmedarm1699, Micro sd cards, 1440p displays, removable batteries, ir blasters to use as a remote for controlling a TV and any device that uses an ir receiver. I used to put a 10,000 mah battery to replace the stock battery on the samsung galaxy note 4 when I used to have the samsung galaxy note 4. The removable batteries are tool less and cost less than going to a 3rd party repair shop to replace the battery. The samsung galaxy s5 and the galaxy active phones have removable batteries that are water resistant. Headphone jacks are what is needed to use the fm radio. Whenever I use the fm radio, the fm radio says to plug in wired headphones from the headphone jack to use the headphone jack as an antenna. The headphone can be used to plug in a wired external cable microphones. Using the usb c port for smartphone accessories will wear out the port faster than using the standard headphone jack. Using a battery case makes the usb c port with usb c dongles no longer usable. I tried using a headphone jack adapter being plugged into a battery case and the audio still comes out of of the phone speakers. Having a headphone jack does not require any work arounds and you can't use the same bluetooth headphones for long term use due to the disposal batteries that are not user replaceable. Wired just work and are just plug and play. Wired headphones are 100% reliable. There are wired headphones that have user removable removable cables and user upgradeable cables that use the headphone jack. The wired headphones can be converted to bluetooth with a bluetooth adapter. Wired headphones have unlimited use without battery degradation and have superior sound quality than bluetooth headphones that sounds mediocre and are more affordable than bluetooth headphones that have to be constantly be replaced. The wired headphones also has better microphone quality when talking on the phone and there is 0 latency with wired headphones.

[@chomp5558]

​​​@armamentarmedarm1699 Split screen, pop up screen (Samsung), (Samsung DeX), several many different companied producing bizarre smartphone ideas, widgets, homescreen editing, programmable feature button (which gets advertised with iphone 15), irrc NFC came girst to Samsung S5?, several cameras setup, cooling system (apple still dosnt have one, but surely one day), USB C 😂😂😂😂😂😂, can you even natively record your iphones screen? If yes when was that introduced, ability to access internal storage, stylus pen, face ID (yes Samsung had it before apple did). There are probaply way more features, but I cant name them. You guys always forget that Android means a market standart vs one company. There are numerous amount of phones out there, we probaply havent heard of in the android market. However there are features, which got copied. Removal of headphone jack, inbuilt battery, no expandable storage, removal of charging cables. All these got copied and they are profit based features. Its interesting, cuz this shows how genius of a revenue based company they are, as if in apple everything revolves around mobey. 😂

[@acynicalasian]

???????? The Pixel series of phones has been a powerhouse of software innovation for years now

[@akin242002]

Excellent video! One extra point: Android customers tend to hold onto their phone longer, so new phone sales for Android phones are going to decrease because of the satisfaction factor of previous models. I know numerous people still using Samsung Note 10 and have zero intent of upgrading unless the phone breaks, gets lost, or stolen.

[@sodapone]

Which is also a little dangerous considering Android phones get less official long-term software support...

[@jiayu4310]

huh u hear so much more people using iphone X, XR even iphone 7 and 6 and 6S, from my personal experience, i hv not seen any one using a S10 note 10 wat not

[@akin242002]

@@jiayu4310 Possibly due to age range and industry. I work in tech and hang around people between 35 to 45 years old.

[@S-titik]

​@@sodaponethat's where community comes.

[@VES.]

@@Fentonious i know a guy that justs swithed from iPhone 6 to 13 two months ago ... Personaly still yousing iPhone Xs ... exept the battery degradation everything is fine. i had Galaxy NOTE 3 for 6 years. good phone but doesnt compare at all. I had issues with it. It was usable but still. Iphone feel is just better and it works. Not perfect, but it works.

[@paragkatekar]

Honestly, it's ridiculous that you didn't mention the fact that an s23 ultra offers a LOT more of value for money than an iPhone 15 series. Also, Apple is an a**hole for locking their customers in the name of "Apple ecosystem". You also didn't mention the fact that Apple is copying Android in a lot many ways! iPhone's cameras are a joke compared to Android flagships. Imagine a flagship phone that uses "crop factor" to capture zoom shots. That's the smelly Apple for you!! I strongly believe that it is Android that has evolved tremendously while iPhones have started to feel and look aged. Market shares don't matter here, because they're a result of... marketing, not necessarily quality!

[@ObeyBanksy]

Great video and definitely make valid points here. I understand that I'm in the minority here but I've never owned an apple product and have zero desire to ever have one.

[@jonplaud]

The closest to an iPhone I had was an iPod touch. After a while I absolutely hated the IOS and lack of customization. I also have a Macbook Pro which I will start using just for work once I get it upgraded (they charge a lot for something you can build yourself)

[@jonwelch564]

I know the feeling, apple products are too simple and lack the functionality I desire. I have a Z Fold 3 and love the ability to have multiple apps on the screen at once. The only thing I feel Apple does better is their cameras, Samsung doesn't seem to get that the Z Folds should be their flagship phones and have the best camera.

[@yogsothoth00]

I was once a never-apple person as well - their UX used to be terrible, but now I have to admit it just seems overall a better product with less hassles.

[@icetrip2417]

Sqme as me

[@grayrabbit2211]

Look at who is on the Board of Directors for Apple and you'll really not want to buy any Apple products. (idiot) Polticians, warmongers, and big pharma.

[@TheCompyshop]

Love the videos man, but an you please sync your video with your audio? It's very unsettling seeing you move your lips at a different speed than the audio

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Appreciate the feedback man

[@n3wt]

is it being dubbed or is that his voice that's a fancy voice 😂

[@alainportant6412]

@@n3wt yeah some shit is off 😂😂

[@HealthHaven550]

Probably just needs an anchor audio for your video editor to perfectly sync

[@Youtubeiscoolandgreat]

@@alainportant6412I think maybe he recorded the speaking, but then recorded the audio separately using fancy mics and overlaying it. It is good to see a person behind the screen, you don’t see much of that with these type of videos from other channels.

[@mrpmj00]

In 2010 I started with 3 Androids but in 2015 our family swtiched to iPhones since and we love it! We each have owned several iPhones since. Facetime is the easiest to use to talk to the grandparents, more products integrate with iPhones, no ads.

[@richardsequeirateixeira]

Stable applications and speedy fixes when there is bugs. You don’t necessarily get this in the Android world.

[@mrpmj00]

@@richardsequeirateixeira My wife got the iPhone 16Pro. I have the iPhone 15Pro Max. I now take photos in spatial 3D so I can relive those moments in 3D in the future when I get the Apple Vision Pro (it's amazing when I demoed it at the Apple Store). Adult kids have the iPhone 15Pro and 14.

[@somnathchavan15]

in age of social media everything has became about showoff

[@spookwave4966]

android sucks ass

[@viktorianas]

Tiktok and Instagram generation is taking over...

[@rctezluh42069]

that is human species condition just like animals except animals can't use phones haha

[@manoftomorrow5987]

Facts. This is the one..

[@kingdeedee]

People have always been like that. It's in our nature. 15 years ago when Android users were bragging to iOS users about their widgets and wallpapers, was that not showing off? Or when people were bragging about how they were so smart for buying a cheaper Android phone with better specs instead of an overpriced iPhone, was that not showing off? Its been about showing off with humans since the dawn of time

[@balpreetsingh6834]

Now, Android worldwide is on a nice number. Great video as always.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Thank you Balpreet!

[@grayrabbit2211]

The problem is that Android phone manufacturers have made their phones like iPhones... removed the headphone jack, removed SD cards, and stopped using replaceable batteries. Oh, and the bloat... I'm still using an S10+ and would love to get something newer, but everything newer doesn't have an SD card or headphone jack, two of my requirements. My phone has 1TB internal, 512GB SD card and gets used often since I'm often in areas with no cell nor wifi for miles.

[@srinish1849]

Fun Fact: Most of the people in India would prefer Android than iPhone. Because of the price.

[@asadfarraj]

Oh you'd be surprised how many people would be ready to become slaves if it meant they could have the latest iPhones. India has it the worst right after America.

[@razan3304]

but at the same time a lot of indian buy used iphones instead midrange/flagship android devices on the same price

[@noobishfingers]

I'd take even the xs over the latest infinix for the same price.

[@seebarry4068]

Depends on what you base value on. Android has a cheaper buy in sure, but you can use the same iPhone for over 5 years easily, and then sell it for more when you do upgrade. You do you though, something something customisation etc etc.

[@elonnut]

Crazy part is now iPhones market share in India is growing rapidly

[@BetaCypher]

as someone who went from dumb flip/slide phones to crappy mid range android to iPhone to flagship android, I absolutely LOVE the stock android experience on my Pixel, and this is coming from someone who swore to NEVER go back to Android when I had an iPhone and my best friend I talk to everyday has an iPhone but I'm not willing to give up my current smooth and fresh experience to go back to the same boring UI and features as everyone else, just my two cents

[@Atomic-Purple-Guy]

👊 fist bump pixel bro. Pixel 8 here.

[@kohakkanuva3224]

I think one of the biggest factors in apple's favor is consistency. When you buy an iPhone you know exactly what to expect. A more or less stable experience that's simple and familiar. With android, companies are constantly changing and you never know what you're going to get next time. But above all in this category, it's old hardware. I've been consistently using an iPhone 8 as my former primary phone and now my secondary phone for years, but it hasn't stopped getting feature updates until just this year. If I got any old android phone, I'd probably have gotten rid of it years ago.

[@mz-power9587]

I mean thats kinda a very invalid point. among flagship phones you find consistency and the budget phones. you have a whole lot of experimental phones in the mix. and phones from companies no one has ever heard. but lets say you stick to galaxy. theres the S series which is great and you have a budget A series which feels almost like a flagship. you can cherry pick bad android phones but that's only cause there's more "options" why would you choose them

[@kohakkanuva3224]

@@mz-power9587 well just take LG (rip) and Xiaomi for example. LG always did something new and Xiaomi is always trying new looks and designs. Samsung I feel is the most apple-like android company

[@mz-power9587]

@@kohakkanuva3224 the point is if you want a very stereotypical phone there not hard to find

[@kohakkanuva3224]

@@mz-power9587 and when you do it’s much harder to find a good one that’s good and consistent. Apple phones have some big problems right now, but compared to the software support and ease of file transfer and anything cloud related, iOS is just king. Even with that said, I could care less about macOS. A PC is almost always objectively better

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

I had my former Android phone for several years. Also android is an operating system, there is really no such things as an ‘android phone’. There’s a Samsung phone with an Android operating system or an LG phone with an Android operating system. Android phone makers have just made the mistake of becoming tooo much like iphone. It was the things that made it not-like-an-iphone that made Android fans, Android fans.

[@pingidjit]

Unless Apple severely changes how they build, repair and service the Iphone I will NEVER own one. I have had too many people around me have issues with these phones and not be able to have them fixed. The option is always to buy a new one. Then the scummy practice of intentionally debilitating older phones so people feel obligated to upgrade to a newer one is despicable. Add to that the inability to repair the phone yourself, the forced syncing when you don't want it, and 'features' that limit customizability of use. No thank you. Android isn't perfect. But its a hell of a lot better than Apple.

[@joemiler8645]

Half your argument is not even your own experience. Next!

[@pingidjit]

"I don't want to jump. Most people that jumped off the cliff into the lake broke their legs." @@joemiler8645 "Half your argument is not even your own experience. Next!"

[@godofdeath8785]

​@@joemiler8645based. As whole life android user i had first fly don't remember which model though, then Tecno camon 12, then Xiaomi mi 10 lite, then Vivo y35. Really don't get why everyone can't like iPhone. Saw android users always complain about iPhones so its seems like they have low self-esteem and should confidence themselves that android cool. Gonna buy 11 as my first iPhone

[@nou4605]

​@godofdeath8785 Imagine buying a a phone as old as 11.

[@Tadders]

​@@godofdeath8785is English your second language?

[@i_1mpuls3]

Intresting to see what happens if the EU decides to force apple to integrate RCS for their messaging in 2024.

[@adedolapo167]

I don't think it will change anything...they'll adopt it leave the bubble to be green...will behave like SMS it will just have better tech behind it.....and normal users will only see the color

[@gund89123]

Why would Apple use RCS ? What if Google ditches RCS in few years ? How many messaging apps did they try in last 10 years ?

[@i_1mpuls3]

@@adedolapo167 Incorrect. RCS is NOT SMS. If the EU forces Apple to use RCS then every message sent to or from an Apple device will be using RCS instead of Apple's proprietary encryption. That changes the entire value proposition for iMessage as a whole. It changes A LOT. This would allow everyone to text each other using RCS without worrying about privacy risks. If Apple decides to keep incoming non-ios messages green then it'll just be a colour difference this time, nothing more.

[@i_1mpuls3]

@@gund89123 Because the EU has plans to enforce every seller to use RCS. It's the STANDARD. Just like usb-c. Google would never ditch RCS, that statement makes no sense. Everyone uses RCS for text messaging besides Apple. The EU said, according to their policies, that Apple was gatekeeping. However, Apple managed to put the decision into a stalemate for now until 2024. Come 2024 and Apple can't fight their way out of it, they'll be forced to implement RCS within IOS and ditch their proprietary encryption service. Meaning having iMessage will be no different than every other messaging app.

[@curious011]

@@gund89123 because the EU may demand it. period. why do you think iphone 15 has usb c ?

[@THEPURIST2]

This might be a random thought, but it also potentially may be that kids who grew up when smartphones were becoming popular usually ended up with an Android because their parents didn't want to buy them an expensive iPhone. Maybe now that those kids might have some money, they are buying the phone they wanted originally when they were younger, even if it might not be the most financially responsible decision.

[@elonnut]

Yea my mom got get me a Samsung and HTC growing up so I loved android even bought a Oneplus for myself years later but the Switched to iPhone when I finally got to daily drive the iPhone 6

[@mattiwet5526]

I never bought an Apple product. Right now using Pixel 6 and Im really happy with it. Will switch to newer Pixel in a year or two.

[@fvs666]

sometimes is better to try something different

[@simply6162]

lets redefine "happy" once u go apple

[@bashvim]

@@simply6162 "Happy"? when Apple slows down the phone through software update!

[@simply6162]

@@bashvim yet still faster than any unthrottled androids what time to be alive

[@D0wNhiLL]

@@bashvimI’d prefer slowed phone than a blown one, coughs in Note 7 noises

[@lowkeyproducktvt2101]

"within the US" EXACTLY Americans live in their own bubbles anyway

[@You-yw9qp]

if you live in a poor country then i wouldn’t expect you to afford an iphone

[@lowkeyproducktvt2101]

its about value for money here and if you guys are happy with low effort , less inovative overpriced products you do you @@You-yw9qp

[@JiggyJones0]

And you foreigners always insert yourselves into our bubble...

[@justastupidduckwithahat6393]

because americans are rich

[@shock15]

not a point ​@@You-yw9qp

[@Gadavillers-Panoir]

The increase in Apple users around the world is mainly due to iPhones becoming more affordable in the developing countries. As newer iPhones get released the older ones become cheaper.

[@dgillies5420]

No, Apple consistently puts out a phone with ZERO weaknesses. 90% of iPhone features are average but there are NO screwups. The Android design environment is chaotic based on RFPs and most designs have serious flaws in one area or another (often in power management or cooling).

[@SomeoneC]

​@dgillies5420 IPhone 15 launched with overheating, and Samsung phones actually run cooler based tests.

[@OmniKoneko]

@@SomeoneC and it was solved within 2 weeks with a software update and it was caused by certain apps like instagram. With android Samsung phones were literally exploding and were banned from airports, and samsung still has an expanding battery issue for the last like 5 years.

[@SomeoneC]

@OmniKoneko Only the Note 7 exploded. Anything with a lithium battery can get a spicy pillow.

[@OmniKoneko]

​@@SomeoneC "ONLY", it shouldn't happen at all. (If it happened with Apple, nobody would let apple users forget but it seems like you guys never talk about it) Also explain to me why the expanding battery problem has been consistently happening with samsung phones and not others? Explain to me why so many tech youtubers have made videos about this very problem with samsung phones... An Example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZewYXqnqK51bMUsi=ZgriVVg_l86QaAXF

[@adventuresinmymind2038]

Let's also consider Huawei was 3rd in market share and is no longer using Android. However, always amazing videos as usual!

[@communistpoultry]

Huawei is still using Android. HarmonyOS is based on Android 10, even the Android system apps are inside the HarmonyOS.

[@KingII_]

Wow, that's a very good reason

[@KingII_]

​@@communistpoultryThat it's based on Android doesn't mean it is android. A big factor is it lacking Google Playstore which makes it hard or at least inconvenient to download certain desired apps and games. Also with the nerf, the American audience has just ignored it totally afterwards

[@communistpoultry]

They claim it's not Android and have no relations to Android codebase but they lied and they're EMUI Android skin is HarmonyOS, they just rename it and by definition it is considered Android if the Android AOSP apps are present.@@KingII_

[@xunepxaxo]

​@@KingII_ if it's compatible with the android apps i could care less if it's call android or harmony. Also huawei made it possible to install most used google apps with the only requirement of 1 additional app install. I could care less if americans ignored huawei because i live in europe. Iphones are rip off for the price they ask and are usually bought by poor people with big egos or rich people who don't care about money. Iphones are always worse if you care about price/quality

[@knawledgemann]

I installed Novalauncher about 7 years ago on my Galaxy s6. Migrated the settings to my Galaxy s10+ in 2019 and it is what I am still using. I don't like many things in Androids interface and how they change icons too often but I despise the customizability when it comes to Apple's options 😂

[@cry2love]

Also with new updates samsung ditches some custom options, for example on android 9 I had ability to change a grid size of my quick panel layout, now I can't do it, they turned it off with android 10, what's up with that? Etc, some other features too, they turn it off with new updates. Hate it.

[@evacody1249]

​@cry2love if you live in the USA you can use Samsungs Goodlock which let's you do what Nova does but better.

[@cry2love]

@@evacody1249 Not in the USA, I have goodlock, but it does not have that feature for me about quick panel I mentioned. Thank you, it is actually a good idea to change region on a phone, but I have to reset it for that matter

[@Omar-kl3xp]

@@cry2loveif you have noticed most android phones are trying to became more and more similar to the iPhone ,hence why they removed the battery replacement,sd card slot ,headphone jack slot ,and charger in the box , Android 14 is also very similar to iOS 16-17 , for some reason Android companies are trying to make their phones more like iPhone

[@grayrabbit2211]

I'm stuck with the S10+ because Samsung hasn't bothered to make anything comparable. The S23 Ultra's cameras are worse than the S10+... No external storage or headphone jack with the S23 Ultra.... so why would I buy anything newer that has less functionality?

[@DanDan-pn8js]

Android messed up when they started copying apple by getting rid of ports and implementing notches.

[@zxcvbnm2000coolness1]

Yup! 👍

[@SaNaX100]

Humm I never understood why people miss the 3.5mm jack... I find bluetooth headphones a lot more convenient and I can connect 2 devices at the same time, listen to music on my personal device and then answer a call on my work laptop and back to music automatically

[@MorikaWeb]

I am surprised you didn't mention OS and Software support. The complete lack of OS support and updates, especially for people outside of the US is a huge problem for Android. The last Android phone I had was a Samsung, I wanted to get the latest OS so I could run new apps, so I called Samsung support. They told me that well the update existed, I couldn't have it because I was Canadian and only Americans could get the update. So as a Canadian I was not allowed to run the latest Apps... I bought an iPhone the next day and never looked back.

[@collan580]

Yeah Its a really big point. Now that phones matured you can have your phone for even 5 years without any issue (compared to early 2010s where even a 2 year old was shit) So software support now is really important.

[@tejasraman6913]

Not even a problem anymore, Samsungs get 4 OS and 5 years Security, Pixel gets 7 years of OS (Apple gets 5-6 years of OS on average)

[@ManuelKoegler]

@@tejasraman6913Pixel gets “promised” 7 years of support. Promises in the tech world, especially by Google, don’t mean all that much and you’ll only know if they truly deliver on this one 7 years from now. Meanwhile Apple has guaranteed 5-6 years of support for well over a decade now if not more.

[@collan580]

@@tejasraman6913 Isn't it though? Just because you update something that does not mean that the quality of the update is actually good. It's especially true for Samsung because they release at least 15 phones per year and i doubt that they are optimizing each update for 50+ phones.

[@Skyppler_main]

@@tejasraman6913iphone has 5 years of major update support and 10 years of security update support. and those 10 years are continually extended, so the iphone 15 will be supported for 12 years. as you write. pixel has 7 years. the problem is that my flagship samsung phone was not usable after 6 months (i absolutely cannot imagine what it will look like in 7 years).

[@ajbXYZcool]

I chose Android mainly due to the customizability years ago, and due to the fact that I didn't have any other Apple products. Still don't - that, and familiarity, is what's going to keep me on Android.

[@tylerkloever4442]

The fluidity of iPhone alone makes me not want to ever switch back to android. Add in the better security and built in VPN, the benefits of iOS start to show very clearly. iPhone 15 is my first iPhone. Prior to the switch, I would always raise my hand to show off my flagship Samsung phone, but after the S20 series, and up to the current S24 series, I noticed that there wasn’t anything different in the phones. I began to wonder why I even paid the premium for an already outdated device. While no phone brings a completely new hand to the table every year, I noticed that Apple showed pride in perfecting their software AND hardware. I had patiently waited for three years for Samsung to remove the annoyingly placed front camera cutout that served me no purpose (I don’t take selfies). I like the Dynamic Island! While I would LOVE more screen, it at least adds a purpose to the cutout that occupies my screen. Samsung isn’t innovative enough anymore these days, it seems. A more powerful device is nothing these days, but the versatility, consistency, and precision of a flagship phone is what makes it a flagship phone.

[@chadultrapromax1735]

There can be any number of iPhone users but i would still be on Android forever. The ability to do anything is the best feeling. iPhone lacks so many features that it pains me a lot to even drive an iPhone daily without going insane.

[@ahkeem0]

Exactly I dnt get the apple hype andriod has more features and apps apple can't neat that

[@dashcat7]

Android has been limiting device access each android update. You're able to do less and less with your own device each update. It won't be fully controllable forever.

[@West_Anderson]

Really the situation here is that Flagship Android phones do not make sense at their crazy prices. You can absolutely still find great Android phones at good prices like $400 from Motorola.

[@leocompany]

You can’t compare specsheets like that Mega pixel count doesn’t tell anything about how good a camera is. The same goes for ram and cpu speed? An amd fx 8100 can goes up to 4,5ghz on all of its „8 cores“ but still loses to an modern i3 with just 4 cores at 3,1ghz boost while sipping 100w less.

[@VirtualLusamine]

As someone who has been independently studying this for a long time, its mostly just the cause of apple's very anti consumer and anti competition practices, and its really disgusting. Mostly just smoke and mirrors, and a lot of lying

[@IanHobday]

It's because phones have become commodity devices that people keep for years. Apple provides support, most Android makers do not. Most people also just want a phone that works, they aren't interested in the additional customization that Android offers.

[@myzel394]

did you write a paper on this? Would love to know more about this! :)

[@kingdeedee]

@@myzel394 probably not, he's just another angry internet user like the rest of us

[@marrmalade]

"As someone who has been independently studying this for a long time" You mean the Android fanboy thesis? 😂

[@kingdeedee]

@@marrmalade guy said it like he's trying to get into Harvard with a youtube comment 😂

[@Vercuric]

This is honestly the first I've heard about the Apple/Android popularity switch, but then again I'm the type of person that buys a smartphone about twice a decade. I went from an iPhone 6S to a Samsung S20 FE in 2020 after seeing a coworker editing Excel docs easily from his Android phone. God it feels like it was only yesterday...

[@markm0000]

You made a poor choice going with the S20. 3 years after, it’s going to become outdated and dangerous to work on any day now due to lack of security updates. Androids system of sending updates through manufacturers and then waiting for the carrier to add their own apps before it’s given to you months later is asinine. Be ready to upgrade again.

[@Yuna-hz5wh]

​@markm0000 honestly think this is just random words people put together to sound knowledgeable.

[@lorsal]

@@markm0000tf are you talking about

[@l3bronjam3s]

@@markm0000 as someone who uses a samsung s20 fe i do not agree with this comment 😂

[@WilWatra]

@@markm0000only american people think android did not surpass iphone. its amusing

[@orwhynotrandom]

If there is a million android fans i am one of them If there are thousands of android fans i am one of them If there are tens of android fans i am one If there is only one android fan i will be the only one

[@africa_everyday]

Nothing can make me to leave an OS of freedom.❤

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Fair enough

[@EmptyNullified]

All I am saying is that open source is better than proprietary. Google Pixel + Lineage OS is the best most private combo anyone could ever use. That way you have most control over anything. Heck, there is even Lineage + Fairphone combo... That said, I conveniently use an S23U but I may change the firmware after 5 years when no more updates are gonna be provided even if it will break Knox.

[@Juanguar]

@@EmptyNullifiedyeah that’s all nice and all But it means literally nothing for the average user And the average user is the majority

[@EmptyNullified]

@@Juanguar which is sad because the world is increasingly closer to a dystopian corporate-controlled future. We should at least educate people about privacy and what kinds of data is collected when they use any online service.

[@EmptyNullified]

@@Juanguar they hide behind a company like Apple because they make false privacy claims and since the average user doesn't understand privacy and data collected or how it can be used, they don't care about it. The data is "invisible" to them. What they see is what is displayed on the screen because the data is in the backend, they don't really care.

[@-eternal]

I love my s21 ultra. Though compared to an iPhone, it does feel like we're paying for an inferior product. For example, Genshin Impact at medium settings can barely run at 30fps, with the resolution clearly being lower than native. Whereas on the equivalent iPhone at the time, it was capable of running at native res, 120hz max settings. While I understand optimization per platform plays a big role, it doesn't change the fact that it's still an inferior experience. Imagine how it feels paying $1k for an inferior experience at anything. I used to be all about the talking points with the smoother 120hz display on my androids years before apple finally adopted it, and now I realize consistent 60fps in every application is FAR better than 120fps in the menu, then dying at 15fps in anything that remotely requires graphical computation. With that being said, I don't feel like I would "own" an iPhone. It doesn't give the same freedom of being able to do whatever you want with it like most devices running android and that's unfortunately the reason I won't be switching. Though that apple xr headset is looking real good. Some competition from android is starting to show up for it- but guess what? It will have zero optimization, Genshin will run at 30fps on it in 480p, and it will melt your brain off with whatever the new qualcomm crapdragon is. And because I care about my privacy and the feeling of owning the things I buy, I'll have to go with it over the Apple Vision. It's also clearly just going to be another repeat of the Android and Apple race. The apple Vision product line will have the superior computational power, visuals (4k per eye), higher refresh rate, better battery life, every major existing application being able to run natively on it, etc. Natively like Genshin Impact, photo and video editing software, Camera looking good in third party apps. The android competitor hasn't even released yet but here's the repeat rundown of how it's gonna end up: There will be 2 apps that run above 60fps, that being the menu and your gallery. It will have a 20 minute battery life. Watching a youtube video in 240p will increase the temperature of the cpu to the surface of the sun. It will have 720p per eye, 15 degrees field of view, and the pixels will be the size of your break pedal. This is coming from someone that has always dissed Apple. I'm just frustrated. It's like no company that makes Android devices has ANY desire to improve the industry. Everyone is out doing their own thing. Google deliberately destroying the android open source project. Samsung pretending like they are an Apple competitor in the US market, trying their best to make the worst possible cooling system for their devices. I don't even blame them for giving up. Look at qualcomm, putting in zero effort to optimize the chips for their biggest clients. What type of developers would bother with making a good running app for a Phone running on an OS that hates the hardware, being powered by a chip that's unoptimized for the hardware or OS, running in a form factor that would turn it into a stove? To this point I don't even blame the developers of Snapchat for keeping the camera crap and Genshin Impact for not bothering with performance optimizations. If the makers of the devices don't care then no developer should either. This rant went on for a little longer than I suspected

[@Loads100]

sad that you wrote a whole paragraph of good info and only got 7 likes on it

[@-eternal]

@@Loads100 I was ranting lol

[@Loads100]

still, for a good take i just don't see why it has few likes@@-eternal

[@curious011]

apple has a 60 refresh rate. how is that better?

[@Loads100]

@@curious011 it doesn't. the last few iphones have screens that can go up to 120 hz

[@iloveplasticbottles]

Android is starting to look more like iOS. If I wanted an iPhone, I'd buy an iPhone. Not to mention that Android phones don't get long term updates, like iPhones do.

[@imjstar]

One word- convenience. As someone who works in marketing the number one aspect to take into account is how much effort people have to put into something to get what they need. Apple has mastered this, with its seamless connection with its other devices, and a simple interface. I recently switched from android to the iPhone 14 pro and for me the difference is like night and day.

[@allenchang6185]

@@noturbussiness3that’s subjective

[@bo4Elite]

@@noturbussiness3you = not everyone

[@RobertWilke]

@@noturbussiness3 it doesn't have to be that's the whole point. So long as it works well and I don't have to fenagle some work around i'll be happy. In other words it just works. That's what most of the public wants. And that's what Apple has provided. An integrated seamless experience toward them. Along with hands on support if needed. Try that with an Android OEM in BF Idaho.

[@Tenzaromon]

@@noturbussiness3 Most people won't care about a device doing something better if it's easier/more convenient to do said thing and that's for any ecosystem, not just electronics. In one case the ease of being able to leave your iPhone in your bedroom, but being able to place and answer calls as if your iPhone was next to you on your MacBook Pro/iMac makes for an INCREDIBLY useful feature to business users. I don't remember though if Apple still has SMS bridging functionality between macOS and iOS in iMessage. As a business owner I NEED the seamless integration so I can easily change what device I'm using depending on what my project at work is. Being able to pick up where I left off, and have cross-synchronization almost instantly, saves me a SUBSTANTIAL amount of time and gives me extra time for more side projects.

[@stevenwilson5556]

@@noturbussiness3 for many users iPhone is better

[@africa_everyday]

I believe this narrator is an iPhone fan.i can bet that

[@Cybfreak99]

Exactly what I was thinking 😂

[@uriNATE14]

Along with most other people these days. Who wouldn’t be an iPhone fan if they used one regularly and gave it an honest go. They just work better for almost everybody.

[@Airex.69420]

​@@uriNATE14 not in my experience

[@bblbussy6351]

@@uriNATE14only if you’re dense

[@bigbadricefarmer]

@@Airex.69420my samsung galaxy s4 was a total nightmare to use with barely any software support and trash software

[@martin0499]

Android manufacturers should stop copying Apple and focus on what made Android phones successful in the first place

[@narayanachakra3288]

Yup

[@tehyonglip9203]

Android manufacturers need to understand that if their products is just as good as Apple, but just as useless as Apple (no headphone jack, SD card slot, inclusion of charger), people will always go for Apple.

[@driver288]

This has been happening for years here in Sweden 🇸🇪. Here around 90% of business users and a clear majority of gen z are iPhone users. I would say that we even have a higher percentage of iPhone users than the US by now. And it’s not slowing down. I work in it and communications and have been for the last 24 years. Ever since the iPhone 3G launched in 2008 it’s been dominating the market here. Sweden is a highly technological country being the birth place of Minecraft, Skype, Spotify and Exchange Active Sync, the leading mobile email protocol for businesses for decades, Ericsson 5G networks are also from Sweden. The trend was clear out of the gate and even less well off people splurged for an iPhone. Here android users are seen as tech geeeks. Written in my 9th version of iPhone. Yes. I skipped the 3gs, the 7 and the X and 11. Going to skip the 15 too since the one I got still is great. If this is any indicator as to the future of android in the rest of the world, time will tell. But Apple opening production in India isn’t helping

[@impersonator4439]

Could you be more cringe? Svenne

[@sirjaf2010]

I some countries people have to sell a kidney for an iphone. It's going to take a long long long for the of rest of world to be like your and rest of the more affluent western societies.

[@Tadders]

Android users are tech geeks? So iPhone users are dumb then? Lol

[@driver288]

@@Tadders well…. No. Not stupid. They just want the best experience and admins the best management experience. What’s up with work profiles on Android. Not a very smooth experience. I’ve used both and I prefer iOS before all other mobile os. Then windows mobile, lastly Android.

[@eone199]

lol I currently live in Sweden too and I can agree with your statement just now..the other factor is there is no other options for people in Sweden to buy products other than apple, considering Sweden's market is very restrictive when it comes to product coming from countries beside US and EU (and Japan, because I see a lot of people in Sweden wear Sony headphones anyway lol)

[@mahamib]

There are also a lot of things that Android caught up to iOS. So at the end of the day, the peer pressure from kids are the ones who makes people switch from Android, and Apple is supporting this kind of behavior. Like Tim cook's response to RCS was rather pathetic imo

[@OCDGeek128]

@@chhoyla Some people don't like to be stuck in a walled garden with Apple.

[@OCDGeek128]

@@chhoyla Yeah but if you don't use Apple products then the ecosystem thing is pointless.

[@OCDGeek128]

@@chhoyla My dude, not everyone wants to use only Apple products. For example, I'm a PC gamer and have invested 1000s into my Steam library. I could never have a Mac be my main computer. Everyone has their own needs. Apple products are not for everyone.

[@NCR_trooper-69]

Android: here's an Open System but we don't give a damn about your Experience. IOS: here's North Korea but in a 7 stars hotel

[@rudeviper]

As someone who uses both platforms on a daily basis, reliability and belielive that no work of mine will be held back by my operating system, its the ability to not care about how to send someone a video on whatsapp, many critical features which are exclusive to android is what holds me on android. Android has that polish that iOS lacks. I very much like the face of the shopkeeper when I tap to pay with my android which iPhone can't do. I love the face of my iphone friends when i send the video to my friend and put my phone in my pocket where they have to wait in the whatsapp till its done. iPhone constantly buzzes keeps disturbing me. While on android I can decide that amazon will send me order related notificaations and rest will be bllocked by my android operating system. I hope iPhone becomes a mature os like android one day.

[@leonardocorte-real8665]

you can tap to pay on iPhone lol

[@rudeviper]

@@leonardocorte-real8665 no you can't. Apple pay is limited to few countries only

[@ktvx.94]

Android phone makers: "Let's copy everything bad that Apple gets away with because it's Apple! What could possibly go wrong?"

[@Poopyhead-doodoobutt]

Sounds like the most fanboy thing one could say.

[@Maxx134a]

This whole video wreaks of Apple 🍎 Fanboy-ism 😛

[@thedynamicd85]

you couldn't be more wrong and ignorant.

[@Gabriel-hv1yu]

@@Maxx134ahow?

[@QuarantineV1]

Yeah, I really wish that they'd stop copying the negative changes Apple makes. Since Apple is adopting positive Android changes generations later, it is getting to the point where Apple is going to legitimately be better. I really don't want that version of reality.

[@nikkehtine]

My personal theory is that because Android phones are becoming increasingly more like the iPhone, as in becoming more expensive and locked down, they are making it easier for potential customers to choose iPhone over their product. When you have to choose between two sides of the same coin, you're going to choose one that is more established.

[@hb-robo]

Or set the standard that the other side is caving towards. Why pick an imitator when you can have the real thing?

[@nikkehtine]

@@hb-robo that's literally what I said in my comment

[@Warp2090]

samsung phones arent really locked down and they are the largest

[@Onlyjorge382]

I prefer the iPhone for work. My iPhone 3gs lasted me till iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 lasted me till iPhone x and iPhone x has lasted me till now. Their devices have proven reliable. That's the only reason I will stick with them.

[@OM-bs7of]

Steve Jobs is so hypocritical in calling Android a stolen product.. oh please!

[@RonakDhakan]

Androids are available at every price point so that argument is invalid.

[@pasl2784]

Yeah the smartphone game really has changed a lot since I got my first smartphone (the galaxy s4). Back then the standard price for a flagship was $649, removable batteries and expandable storage were king (on android at least), and each phone was significantly better than the last. You could easily upgrade every year or even half year between brands and see noticeable improvements. Now, you could honestly go a couple years between phones and barely tell them apart. And I also agree that apple has gotten significantly better with the iPhone. It used to be in my mind that android was way better than iPhone, but I don't really feel that way anymore. The new iPhone is just as, if not more capable, than my Samsung phone. Now I don't really like apple as a company and I can't really ever see myself switching from android, but I certainly can understand why a lot of people do.

[@breezydagreat12]

That’s why I switched to the 14 pro max after years of pixels. iPhone is finally a phone worthy of buying now

[@pasl2784]

@breezydagreat12 How do you like the iPhone experience versus the pixel experience? I have never had a pixel phone although I've been wanting to try one. Out of the 10+ smartphones I have had, I've only had a few non Samsung (mostly in the beginning).

[@breezydagreat12]

@@pasl2784 they’re both my favorite above all other os. Only difference is you can push the iPhone a lot harder bc of the chip and battery life is better. Been waiting for the pixel chips to get more powerful and efficient. Plus the ecosystem is a whole lot better. But the features pixels come with blow everyone else out of the water in my opinion. The good thing is you can find used pixels cheap as hell if you want to try them out.

[@justfreeze6655]

I switched from Samsung to Pixel this year and I can tell you: I'll never switch back to Samsung. Pixels and especially the way Android runs on them feel very competed, premium and in tune. I believe this is what Android should look like on a phone. So if you are considering switching from Samsung to Pixel... Do it. The Pixel 7 (from last year) is at a very fair price nowadays so you could buy that one.

[@RareFXChrisC]

Samsung Galaxy phones didn't really get good until around Galaxy S7/S8. Windows Phones and iOS phones were better options back in the day.

[@Vyse505]

So something I do want to make a comment on is premium vs budget. As you mentioned Samsung flagship is as expensive as apples flagship, but Samsung has an equivalent to apples budget device as well. As do some of the other smartphone brands. As for the decline, I think there is a bit more complexity then what is presented. As you hinted at the end is the tech echo system. As someone who is not part of the apple ecosystem at all. It becomes a nightmare to get certain apple devices to play nice with external devices. Which in turn can make a consumer feel compelled to buy into.

[@DonLee1980]

2017, people got enraged that the flagship iphone now started at $1000, coming with 64gb of storage and 2 camera lens. 2023, the flagship iphone is still $1000 with 128gb of storage, 3 camera lens, improvement on all areas. how much inflation has gone up in the last 6 years? About 29%. So everything has gone up nearly 30%, and the flagship iphone is not only much better, but the same price. Apple's biggest gain on the market is that it's no longer "way more expensive" but in fact, it's much more reasonable, and 2nd hand phones are actually quite cheap. They no longer use high prices and margins as their source of income. Instead they are to entice more people into the system, under their umbrella. No matter how new or old the phone is, once you start using one, you are part of the ecosystem of app store and apple services. Apple stopped making products for apple fans. They started making a product for everyone.

[@jakubner8824]

On android you can install easily any app. Even different play store like F-Droid. On iphone it is often impossible (correct me if I am wrong). This gives me more more freedom than relaying only on what is allowed by big Tech

[@curious011]

apple users are a cult. don't mistake it for anything else. keep your android. apple users actually attack you for using android-peer pressure, literally locking you out of groups if you have an android. that is a cult and you should want no part of it.

[@whatsgoodmyguy4391]

Bro, you got it backwards

[@TheLetterN24]

Fr

[@thatoneguy9623]

@@TheLetterN24 exactly

[@lundsweden]

I've owned both Android phones an iPhones. I actually don't see much difference in the UI, its a bunch of apps in a grid- big deal. A lot of the extra features of Android are buried pretty deeply in the settings, you can ignore them if you want or dig in if you prefer. I now have a nice mid range Motorola G82. In some ways its better than the iPhone I upgraded from. I love the bigger OLED screen, its pretty sweet. Battery life is about the same, sure the camera is better on the iPhone, but I don't really care. The Motorola also has dual SIM and the memory is upgradable via micro SD to a whopping 1TB in addition to the standard 128GB internal storage. 1.1TB, beat that Apple! (plus it has a headphone jack, yey!).

[@ff7omega]

iDrones nowadays are the people who are willing to pay the Apple™ Tax. Although it sucks that a lot of android phones are also losing features that set them apart. SD card support and #BringBackTheHeadphoneJack

[@kingdeedee]

Unfortunately those features don't make money for those companies. The plan for all your favourite Android OEMs was always to start out seeming "consumer friendly" with cheaper phones, more features, etc to lure users in but any company that wishes to survive knows that model can't last forever. Eventually they'll all want those iPhone profit margins and that's what's happening right now. Android phones are becoming more like iPhones than the iPhone itself. Nothing represents this better than the trajectory of OnePlus

[@omegaXjammur]

The Huawei to Apple might have something to do with the "plummeting" numbers. I will argue that customization is still pretty high with Android phones, and for the time being, it is relegated to spectrum. Flagship phones have indeed removed headphone jacks and SD storage, while introducing higher specs and different form factors. The low to mid range phones do however maintain the features lost by the flagships. At the end of the day I think it's just a matter of convenience vs variety

[@recordedanemone6399]

tldr: because of the apple ecosystem and fitting with society. i am a TEENAGER in the USA, who uses ANDROID where anti-androidism is pretty common, and i just don't get it. ppl outside of north america in the rest of the world dont give 2 flying f*ks whether you use android or not, because they have WHATSAPP 🤯 . Moreover, android still retains much of the customizable traits that it still had, and as marques brownlee said in one of his videos "android is less buggy than iphones". I don't see why ppl hate android, i think it's stupid. and for those of y'all that say android users are POOR, take a good, GOOD look at your 8 year old iphone 7 before saying anything else.

[@cagykoala6004]

Androids just don’t have the UI I like. Androids, in my experience, last for less than a year. My mum has 2 phones and they are androids. She loses both less than a year in and gets a new one. She used to have a Moto G and C, now she has a galaxy a23 and a galaxy a10. She thinks it’s cheaper when she pays for em twice every year. She doesn’t want apple. Me and my dad have apple devices that have last 10 years. I use my dad’s iPhone 5s which still works despite being 10 years old. It doesn’t have KZbin, but you could go to KZbin from safari. I jailbroke it a few years ago, so it works well. I have an iPad(in which I am typing on) which was there since 2018. I can’t name a single android device which lasted more than a year which my family used. In my opinion, android is expensive, short-lived and doesn’t have good UI. My opinion, if you have yours, share it.

[@cagykoala6004]

WhatsApp is trash. Yep, I’ve said it. It’s bad. Discord and iMessages are better. I live in India, and I have WhatsApp, I don’t like it. In my experience, apple is NOT buggier than android.

[@cagykoala6004]

At least the iPhone 7 lasted 8 years :/

[@cagykoala6004]

Btw I have a cousin who says they want my iPad to use Instagram as their android will hang 💀

[@aldomacias361]

The fact that i can get a good music player for downloaded music and file manager on android makes it worth it for me.

[@lexly]

File management is so underrated

[@labandaniel]

You're lying... Man I think you're talking for the US... Android is and will always remain king.. globally.. Believe it or not.

[@offroadpatriot7219]

Cybersecurity software developer here. Currently use Windows 90% of the time for what we do. But I tell you what, every year I get more of an itch to swap over to Mac OS. I have switched to an iPhone as of a few years ago. And now that there is Mac support for .Net Core (C# and just the windows languages in general are growing in support it just makes the switch to Mac/Apple easier and easier) Not just with the phone but Apple in general.

[@Warp2090]

Your a cybersecurity software dev and you didnt even consider linux. Thats scary

[@Warp2090]

L dev

[@minsekfau3218]

​@@Warp2090This is what we call a soydev. And these devs are maintaining our 'cybersecurity' lmao. Switching to Apple because they can. This is really a spooky joke... Imagine unironically putting Apple and security in the same sentence

[@nathanbrown8689]

They all suck. Windows wants you on a subscription, macOS simply sucks and Linux is fragmented like android. I’ll take linux … i guess.

[@ergophonic]

Great analyis as always. I was forced to use an iPhone for 3 weeks as my Galaxy was stolen. I found that in comparison to Android, iOS had a poorer, less intuitive interface. What takes a couple of taps/swipes on Android is more long-winded on iOS.

[@sontodosnarcos]

Interesting. I have exactly the opposite feeling and find iOS way more intuitive.

[@bobmarley7787]

​@@sontodosnarcoshow?

[@rigierish3807]

​@@sontodosnarcosI always found iPhone less practical to use, which is why I always laugh when people say iPhone is more fitted for productivity... on a phone where you can't even multitask. Each time someone lend me their iPhone, I'm lost because their way of thinking at Apple is very weird and multiple times, I asked them where I can activate basic Android features that straight up didn't exist on iPhones. So iPhone is truly a nightmare in terms of usability.

[@curious011]

@@sontodosnarcos its provable that ios take many more button presses and screen jumping to do basic things. hundreds of youtube videos to show it all.

[@curious011]

@@rigierish3807 iphone users are basically a cult saying a sub par operating system is better that one will full features. they will say anything, believe anything. android users understand the apple ONE WAY is not as good as an open system.

[@LordGooben]

I've been on both teams, When I was younger you could call me an Apple fanboy, I had a shrine and everything. My first Android was the Note 3, I've switched back and forth but currently, I'm on a Samsung, however a lot of the time I prefer to stay with Android there are two major things that are preventing me from switching back. Which is the clear all notifications and the separate wipe-up screen for all apps. I much prefer this way so it's nice and clean on the home screen. Until Apple brings these two features to iPhone idk when I'll switch back. Also, I'm a dev and it's a lot easier to get applications that can utilize the functionality of the phone ex heat mapping for wireless or checking the channels. For iPhone you need an external device.

[@damien_ashraf]

Well, for the clear all notifications, you have to press and hold (force touch) the X button on the top right of the notification stack and a "clear all notifications" option will appear. In fact with iOS 16, there's more options by force touching the icons like the flashlight brightness, widget option, etc but they are kinda hidden as many people are unaware that you can press and hold for this option. As for the wipe up all apps, yeah that sucks but I just swipe half up and clear the app when closing instead of the normal close each time.. so it's everytime force close the app. Definitely would be better for a clear ram option tho. Side note, one thing I found better on ios (as I use my phone as a main device even for work emails and docs) is that the files app is amazing. Zip and unzip files, create a zip file from a bunch of files, drag and drop pdf etc to whatsapp and outlook, native file like system with online storage iCloud and OneDrive as a folder location instead of a separate app to drag snd drop between locations...just like on pc...and the seamless icloud photo backup Google files is literally not on par and I prefer Samsung's my files app which still is behind apple files app

[@LordGooben]

Thanks for the info, for the swipe up basically I'm talking where all the apps reside not the closing apps, then you have your home screen where you can put the apps that you want on that so like just one screen.@@damien_ashraf

[@Pushing_Pixels]

My first two smartphones were Android. I was perfectly happy with them, but wanted to try an iPhone to "see what the fuss was about". I've been using them since, but I've also gradually been sucked more and more into the ecosystem. I've ended up buying the watch, because it syncs to the phone, and the air pods because they sync automatically. Now I want to get a tablet and it "makes sense" to get an iPad (which are really expensive for the good ones) because it will work with the other stuff, even though an Android tablet could probably do 90% of what I want it for. I play games on PC, so I will never need a Mac (thank the maker), but the more I get sucked into Apple's walled garden, the more expensive everything ends up being. I like small phones, my current one is an iPhone 12 Mini, but now that Apple has stopped making small phones I can see a future where my next phone is Android. But then I lose the compatibility with all the other Apple crap I've bought. Apple's a trap.

[@kerrydaniels8460]

I just prefer Android's UI. Much cleaner and more unified imo. Every app tends to close different and you lack tons of control with the iPhone. Home screen button and back button are also super nice on android and missing on iPhone. Makes getting places more of a hassle on an iPhone. Lastly, I notice apple tends to just copy android on the software end these days. They just get it waaay later. Android is still by far the global leader despite what the vid would try to lead on to. It's really not that close and until it's a lot closer it doesn't seem to alarming really. Especially with the price gaps in many countries.

[@curious011]

@@damien_ashraf its not about being on par it's about stopping apple from owning the world. they literally control everything you do with their phones.

[@Soraviel]

I'm not ditching android at all, ios is crap, when you compare Huawei to Xiaomi (these are the numbers Xiaomi boasts 546 million users globally, compared to Huawei's 349 million).

[@JRay2113]

I don’t have an iPhone because it’s a status symbol. It’s just a good phone and alternative options are limited. Not to mention the sunk cost on all my apps.

[@TaskMaster0]

I work at business that also repairs cellphones, and a lot of the feedback I have from customers as to why they would never get an Android is because they think that person is broke and would not meet their relationship specifications. I have used both Apple and Android since they started making smartphones, I say ignore the color of the bubbles and use what you like. I sold my iPhone 14 pro max due to constant battery issues and told my son to hold on to his 13 pro max, now have a Pixel Fold, and the internal screen is amazing for reading Manga.

[@lilmonkmonk808]

Apple sells phones from $429.99 to $1199.99 while Samsung sells phones for $199.99 to $1799.99 and the most expensive one performs about the same as the cheapest aside from camera

[@useristakenby]

Although apple is getting better and better you don't have any privacy in apple phones. Apple looks at your messages, phone calls, pictures and even when you unlock with face id they take a picture of yourself sends it to the apple database and checks if you are actually the person of the iPhone and quickly deletes the picture.

[@RandomDeforge]

wow. you really went out of your way to stretch out this video length with filler fluff and word salad.

[@Z_kun11]

The real problem is device in general, when was the last time you actually had ‘fun’ using a phone, any phone. Not the apps and software, I mean, just having a phone in general, phones are consistently copying each other, they are constantly just the same thing. We need, a new device, a new thing. Getting a phone for the first time was fun, same with the laptop.

[@KamilDevonish]

The trend is really more of a correction than an alarm. The global breakdown between the two should be closer to 50% since there are literally only 2 major mobile operating system. Apple is obviously gaining from network effects from their ecosystem but the simple fact is that there will always be a large group of people who aren't comfortable being highly leveraged in just one company for all the consumer electronics. There are people who are totally comfortable having their phone, computer, laptop, tablet, TV, home speaker, headphones, music, content, cloud storage, and credit card all handled by the same company. And there are a lot of people who'll never allow themselves to be that silly. There are a large group of people who couldn't care less if Apple just works because it puts you completely at their mercy the moment you buy 2 or more of their products. Anyone who thinks that one day Apple is going to have 70% market share and no one will be making apps for android, has to also believe that Apple won't some day have some massive security breach that compromises over a billion people at the same time and has people's identity stolen and bank accounts drained because they had everything connected through one company. Apple is a very attractive target to bad actors and will only become more attractive the closer its market share approaches 50.

[@thegame7557]

You just discovered something Apple isn't aware of..wow. They are already the largest company in the world of course they are a target today so...most of the things in Android are handled by Google meaning the same accusations should also be directed towards them too.

[@mrlightwriter]

@@thegame7557 That's what I was going to say. Android is Google, so the concerns are the same.

[@yellowwinner1]

​@@thegame7557I'm not trying to be mean or insult your knowledge, but I don't think you understand how Android as a whole works... I can't really explain it all in a comment so tl;dr Google gives users and devs the choice to depend on Google or not while Apple you're stuck with them. Key examples are Huawei which (granted due to legal reasons) doesn't have any Google apps preinstalled, Samsung who completely flips the "intended experience" and LineageOS which is a popular community created system that goes farther than even Huawei in completely removing Google from their OS (and supports a variety of phones including Google's own devices)

[@zxcvbnm2000coolness1]

@@yellowwinner1 Great points! 👍

[@wr2899]

@@yellowwinner1and as a result you get a lot of performance inconsistency across the Android space. Apple’s control allows them to always be the architects of how apps feel to the end user, and for a lot of people, it’s just nice to have consistency across different apps and use cases. On the other hand this is an iPhone limitation as well, the experience is far more vanilla but for some that’s boring.

[@egal1780]

I mean I'll probably still choose an android, but not from the companies mentioned. I'm rather happy with my Redmi, especially when considering the price.

[@mihirojha4475]

Tip: Never use apps like the Mi browser and Mi pay, among others. Love Redmi! Used a Note 7 Pro for almost 4 years.

[@egal1780]

@@mihirojha4475 I don't know why I shouldn't use those aps, but I personally prefer Ecosia as a browser anyway and don't pay with my phone. But thanks for the tip.

[@egal1780]

@@Hugo00310 Just what I thought, thanks for that information.

[@isaiahGere]

The answer is actually quite simple 1. The iphone 6 was revolutionary 2. Airpods and apple watch were a fashion statement. 3. IOS updates for years means your iphone doesnt go obsolete. 4. No average person wants to customize their phone. 5. The iphones are just too smooth and feels more premium. For example in 2024, an iphone 6 feels more premium than a new budget android. These are the reasons why everyone is running to the iphone. Most Androids starts to misbehave after a year but iphone remains smooth and cool

[@jazilzaim]

Hope that brands like Nothing and Google can defy this! The Google Pixel has done really well in recent sales as well! So I guess time will tell! Overall very detailed and thanks for the vid! :)

[@theosiegstolz3991]

nothing is a cringy grift. don't trust them

[@jazilzaim]

@@theosiegstolz3991 in what sense?

[@okene]

Google is raising their prices. The reason pixel 7 sold so well was because it was cheap with a lot of discounts

[@Hehebroty]

@@theosiegstolz3991don’t lie just say you haven’t used it 😂😂

[@Hehebroty]

Yes I agree Nothing is close to the software perfection that Apple integrate with their software with the new Update Nothing 2.0

[@ethanrivers4057]

And here I am thinking about leaving ios after over 10 years because I can't sideload easily lol

[@Juanguar]

Well if you’re in Europe it’s apparently officially coming in 17

[@ethanrivers4057]

@@Juanguar yeha I know but I'm not in Europe sadly. Also, knowing apple, they'll make it stupidly annoying to do.

[@Juanguar]

@@ethanrivers4057 rip Well there’s always AltStore for those of use outside

[@AvetVardanyan-i2p]

I wanna mention (as an Android user) that Iphone lose less of their value in a year than android phones.

[@AshT8524]

This actually makes sense, but still I don't think majority of the android users buy the flagship phones, most people go for android for midrange phones. And Apple will absolutely would not go there as it'll hurt their brand image, and they have their older phones for that if you really want an iPhone.

[@Bluepheonix420]

Android it's not dying tho the papers have switched now the best androids are for rich people and iphones are for broke people.

[@fabutchy]

I am a Windower.... yes Windows Phone was great, but mismanaged. It could have blown the mobile OS market. You also forgot to mention probably the most important factor: It´s the bling bling factor. People love the "nouveau riche" status, the wanna be rich, the wanna be cool, pretending... So, as soon as they can buy gadget that gives them "status", they will.

[@guelo1350]

I really enjoy Android over apple on any day. But unfortunately, old iphones perform really well. Or even I dare to say Better than current gen android devices

[@Incidental104]

Absolutely, I belong to the 8%. Let me explain. Unresponsive interfaces, sporadic updates, a staggering two years of updates (unbelievable), lack of improvement, sluggish performance, lower quality apps, and more. Sure, the 240MP hexacore Android may sound superior on paper, but in reality, the iPhone delivers a smoother, more polished experience that lasts for years. After experiencing these frustrations, I made the switch to iOS, and I don't see myself returning anytime soon. Let me put it this way. Take a look at an iPhone XS compared to a Galaxy S9 in 2024, and you'll find there's no comparison. The iPhone XS remains a highly usable phone, smoothly running the latest OS and apps, while the Galaxy S9 is practically on the verge of becoming e-waste. The longevity and performance of the iPhone truly stand out over time. Lastly many of Android's selling points have been integrated into iOS over the years leaving no logical argument for going with an Android in 2024.

[@meroinheroin]

My pixel has 7 years of monthly software updates. Not a huge Samsung fan but Pixels feel like a way more polished experience. They're better price wise especially second-hand. I don't hate Apple either, I use Macs I just don't like how they purposely hold back their hardware for sales, and they're trademark, "it's more expensive to fix this device so just buy a new one." And the fact that they need a government to force them to be consumer friendly.

[@thomasa.243]

​@@meroinheroin Even new Samsungs have the 7 years support and honestly, Samsung and Google get closer and closer (which they must in order to compete with Apple). And speaking of prices, I am talking about European prices, the iPhone is still much more expensive than most Android devices. The iPhone 15 is 10% more than the Galaxy S24 for example. And last year's S23 is holding value as good as the iPhone 14. Kind of interesting how things are different here compared to the US 🤣. Although, I must admit, it is nowadays less "Android vs iPhone" but practically "Samsung vs Apple"...

[@Incidental104]

@@meroinheroin I must disagree I think eh European parliament and regulators unfairly target Apple. They want Apple to open up iOS and MacOS (it is only a suggestion now) but I don't see them going after Microsoft for deliberately locking windows from running natively on the M series Macs, or Samsung for locking OneUI only to its devices, at a certain point these regulations become ridiculous. And to your pixel comment where is Pixel 2 and Pixel 3 interns of software support? Only time will tell if Google and Samsung will deliver on their promises but as it stands plenty of Samsung devices that could run OneUI 6 and cost over 800usd simply don't run it and never will.

[@meroinheroin]

@@Incidental104 pixel 2 is as old as the iPhone 8 which also doesn't give you software updates anymore. The EU targeted them because they're hostile in terms of repairability/ proprietary software interoperability specifically to increase their revenue. If *you* are able to get windows running natively on your M1 MacBook you can still buy the licence. It would make sense that a Microsoft hasn't committed a dev team to get the OS to run Natively on Apple's proprietary hardware and preferring you to license through parallel. Similar issue with OneUI. (Which is a rough example btw because you could install AOSP on basically any smartphone and still use the same features.) It's unfeasible to expect Samsung to build and optimize their OS skin for other hardware since they don't really license it to begin with. No one is asking Apple to port IOS to Android they just need to be operable with things as elementary as text messages.

[@Incidental104]

@@meroinheroin no there is a new bill asking Apple to licence iOS and macOS to non Apple devices. Also that wasn’t my question I said look at the state of Pixel 2 vs iPhone X one is on 3 year old software the other is on 1 year old software. Pixel 3 runes Android 12 iPhone XS runs iOS 17

[@loganday7152]

Both Android AND Iphone sales have been dropping because people are buying smartphones less and less. If you compare the Iphone 15 to the 14, 13 or even 12 the designs are very similar, it seems to be the same thing for android, we can not know for certain until the s23 comes out but it looks like companies are not expecting people to upgrade every year. Android sales are going down because smartphone sales are going down

[@loganday7152]

Also, while the minimum prices for androids have technically went up, all they did was slice the lower storage less powerful model because it wasn't a viable option anymore for what the phone could do.

[@lego_minifig]

Personally, if Apple doesn’t bring back the mini (with usb c) and allow some type of 3rd party app store then I am switching to android next time I upgrade. If I can’t have a feature-rich phone in a reasonable size then I am going to get something that has more niche and open apps and more fun form factors. Foldables have really made strides in recent years so Id probably get one of those. The only apps I care about on ios are also available on iPadOS so I wont be missing much if I switch.

[@bymicromize]

This will be, just as usb c, forced in the EU. It is part of the same law.

[@private2371]

Jumping ship for android in hopes of a smaller phone is a bad move. No joke I am stuck on my 13 mini because no androids aside from the Zenphone make a sub 6 inch phone

[@lego_minifig]

@@private2371 I wouldn’t jump ship for a smaller phone. If I have to buy a brick then I will be buying one in a fun form factor.

[@matthewrichardson2533]

Hooked my Galaxy phone to a monitor and turned it into a whole gaming PC. Tried to find neat unique things to do with Apple's stuff but couldn't. I could only use the camera, open an app or make a call and everything worked okay...

[@alexcuevas5633]

That's great

[@Josh-u8d]

Not even google is giving its pixels C port a HDMI output support only S series Samsungs with Samsung Dex. It comes in Solid for me as well. I use word and office and the fact my phone is a desktop without having to do anything is awesome. huge selling point for me. It's not the same as screen mirroring. Samsung Dex actually formats a desk top experience.

[@ЛентяйЁпта]

Why would I want my phone to be a gaming PC? I have a PC. I want a phone that's great at being a simple phone

[@Josh-u8d]

@@ЛентяйЁпта what you want and what the market potential is .That’s different. YOU may want a simple phone but according to companies producting these portable PC devices Asus , Steam, and some other manufacturers understand people want access to PC titles on the go . That’s simple.

[@me-myself-i787]

​@@ЛентяйЁптаBecause it means you don't need to pay for a separate PC, can save on your electricity bill because phone processors are more efficient, and can avoid noise complaints as a result of the fans in the computer because phone processors don't heat up as much. Plus, if you already have a PC, you can sell it to pay for your phone, rather than having to spend money.

[@avg1452]

6:44 "people still want price , performance and control" 10:08 "performance is irrelevant" Just choose one side man , you are disproving your own points.

[@siamak81]

I can still install my favorite launcher on my android which is a killer feature me.