What’s Happening With Thalia, Guardian Of Thraben? | Magic: The Gathering Lore

[@AetherHub]

Thalia is an amazing character and card, so iconic to the world of Innistrad. Let me know what other topics you'd like covered on the channel in the comments!

[@owenphillipsilvesterlopes3818]

Make a guide on the folks of each plane, vampires, merfolks, elfs, goblins...

[@jesok3761]

@@owenphillipsilvesterlopes3818 I think he already did that.

[@chrisfreese7829]

I wish there was more lore I could find on Odric (master tactician was my very first commander deck I built without help)

[@jesok3761]

@@chrisfreese7829 odric is good, but I love my koth.

[@OfficerDva444]

[@AsViewedByFran88]

Thalia is a iconic badass. Innastrad is my favourite plane and I can’t wait to return again eventually. Thalia, Sigarda and Odric need to stay as good and powerful characters please WOTC! It was hard enough for me to lose Avacyn, Gisela and Bruna.. Anyway.. Defo would like to hear a video detailing Sorin and Nahiri. From what I understand Sorin did betray her but her revenge didn’t need to be at the expense of so many innocents. Great content as always.

[@dragonballtalk8527]

I like her but to many legendary female cards nowdays.She can stay though and sissay

[@AsViewedByFran88]

dragon ball talk I like plenty of awesome female characters and am glad that magic continues to represent them in their cards. We get plenty of Male ones too..

[@dragonballtalk8527]

@@AsViewedByFran88 every day another legendary female card this games turning in a little girl thing like my little pony

[@AsViewedByFran88]

dragon ball talk Honestly... get over yourself. Magic is inclusive and diverse. It doesn’t need to be like dragon ball where so many of the characters are bland palette swaps of each other. I love the strong female characters. Why are you even on this video if your not a Thalia fan?

[@dragonballtalk8527]

@@AsViewedByFran88 what new card game ain't got gay cards in it

[@kidflashclone]

I love when you're watching videos by the Aether Hub, and then a new one comes out!!!

[@AetherHub]

kidflashclone enjoy 😉

[@Vidious808]

Damn I wasnt expecting this video to be so in depth.

[@AlexanderYavhe]

Thalia is my non-planeswalker character in all Magic The Gatherin lore. I hope we can see her and all Innistrad soon.... Great video!

[@starknight2262]

THANKS SIEBEN !!! THIS WAS A VIDEO I ASKED YOU FOR AND YOU DEFINITELY DELIVERED.

[@andreschion2334]

Innistrad is one of my favorite planes as well, can't wait to go back there in the future.

[@jesok3761]

To be honest my favorite is argentum also known as mirrodin also known as new phyrexia.

[@jesok3761]

To be honest I think my favorite plane is argentum also known as mirrodin also known as new phyrexia.

[@edgarventura7497]

This comment aged well

[@darylchiu9030]

Stand User: Thalia/ Stand: Saint Traft

[@hoppeltrottel7484]

Enjoyed your video as always, Seiben. I'd really like to know why WotC is always eager to corrupt and/or kill each awesome angel character throughout Magic's history. Akroma, Angel of Wrath: Killed by Kamahl, along with his sister Jeska a.k.a. Phage, the Untouchable. Lady Selenia: An angel from Serra's realm. Captured and corrupted by the Phyrexians, later killed by Crovax. Radiant, Archangel Ruler of Serra's Realm after Serra's departure from the plane in the wake of the Phyrexian invasion. Also corrupted and later killed when Urza collapsed the plane into the Power Matrix that fueled the Skyship Weatherlight. Zendikar's angels: Killed in hordes by the rampant Eldrazi, because they didn't know what a "tactical retreat" is. Mirrodin's angels: Killed or corrupted (Atraxa!) by the Phyrexians. Bruna and Gisela: Corrupted by Emrakul and killed by Thalia. Avacyn: Corrupted by Emrakul and killed by Sorin. Seriously, one drop of black mana, and the embodiments of white mana falter or even die? What is this nonsense? Walking into a room full of people who have a flu doesn't mean I will automatically catch a cold, too!

[@casualknight8962]

I'm surprised Thalia herself didn't become an angel or planswalker after all that power she obtained at least that's the usual case when character gets so much power they wind up shedding their mortality and wind up becoming god like beings good or bad .

[@lordofsalem3]

Is there any lots about Lilliana’s demon lords (before their respective stories as they pertain to Lilliana) I loved each one of them when they had their short stories with her, but it would be cool to hear about how they got to that point and more on who they were

[@jasonsaddison]

Obscure topics that KZbinrs present out of their own sheer interest are usually fun! As someone who runs RPGs based in the planes, location-based stuff is cool. Listable if you want even. Top 5 locations on this Plane or that. Love the stuff Seiben. Some of my favorite lore to listen to.

[@djsona5428]

A video of Sigarda's more would be cool.

[@coreyyates3385]

Awesome!!!!!!! Great video of one of my favorite characters

[@ToxicAtom]

you forgot to mention the part where she's absolutely gorgeous as well

[@AetherHub]

Toxic Atom that goes without saying honestly ;)

[@zachharper5262]

Great video man! Thanks! Thalia is my favorite MTG character.

[@crilleedara]

Thanks man, Amazing video!! Thalia is my favorite character, and this was Super-interesting!! It would be so cool to see her fight more Eldrazi, and eventually an Eldrazi Planeswalker

[@jedperkins3385]

This was a great video! You should publish a story time book! Thalia's story's as the kids drift off to sleep would awesome(of course with WOTC's blessing)! Anywho, I'm glad your back to mtg lore! I would like to hear any lore on Golos, if there is any, i made a deck based around him traveling(travelers amulet, expedition map, stuff like that) but it would be cool to know actual characters Golos has interacted with. Or maybe Feldon, i dont know anything about him and he has several cards. Sorry the comment is so long

[@originalmusic401]

I didn't know the lore behind st. Traft would be so significant to Inistrad, wow that's cool

[@josephbeavers6060]

Thanks for this video. Thalia is one of my favorite characters.

[@topherrobeson4446]

I love that the helvault is a protohedron Has the lore addressed that? Or is it logical headcannon?

[@michaeld2440]

It gets mentioned in the sorin/nahiri video I think? It's less a proto hedron and more of sorins attempt to copy nahiri without her

[@jesok3761]

I wonder what the story is behind grunn, but if not him Geth would also be nice.

[@Formallyknownashandle]

This video is the first I’ve heard of Thalia. I’m not sure what it is but I find her fascinating and enjoyed this video. I’m going to miss tales of the schemes for power with Bolas though!

[@seanheiser2179]

Minor correction Geralt killed mikeaus with a letter opener, liliana only raised him into his unhallowed form. Otherwise great video

[@Zaknyfein]

Very very interesting! Thank you very much for a wonderful video.

[@brunopereira6789]

What I'd love most is for a return to Innistrad after a time skip of a few hundred years.. The Order of Saint Traft properly established, and Thalia as a Saint

[@originalmusic401]

One of my fav mtg arts

[@thomasf5383]

I really enjoy all your videos, and this one has to be your best! Granted, I am a bit biased because Innistrad is my favorite plane.

[@haingis]

love the fact that her followers also got an anime like upgrade.

[@scottricks1676]

My all time fav plane. I hope we come back a 3rd time!

[@raydelmartinez2905]

Amazing work and again

[@xxRobodragonxx]

My fav sets were ravinca( which help set up the mana and guild I love dimir), kamigawa( which helped me go into two color decks the ogre and demon deck. And I also loved the snake deck which would let me set up one of my fav and strongest decks) and inistrand ( I had an awesome blue black zombie token flood deck.). I saw some new cards which is making me want to make the deck again but I am broke.

[@TheArcSet]

Thanks you for the lore.

[@Darksky1001able]

Van Helsing... YOU MURDERERRRRRR!!!!

[@thatonescarecrow4692]

One last thing left for me to satisfy my interest in Innistrad lore is the fate of Hanweir as a creature. Had it just wobbled away into the wilds, or maybe someone smited it in a fight? What is up with my favorite legendary creature?

[@anthonydelfino6171]

This might not be the lore reason... but I always loved the idea that Liliana couldn't destroy the Helvault because black can't destroy artifacts as opposed to the wards protecting it. But you know what color CAN destroy artifacts? White. And what color identity does Thalia have?

[@Apathy4]

Would it be possible to see a video on Davriel Kane. The new black planeswalker with the unusual spark.

[@nalley9]

a video about Thrun would be insane he is my favorite green card!

[@gubblebumz]

Secret Lair: PleasantKenobi

[@germanasem2426]

Hey Seiben, do you think we will visit new phyrexia soon enough? With a new D&D setting?

[@starknight2262]

Speaking about Avacyn do you think that she can come back? Yes I know she was killed by Sorin during the Shadows over Innistrad & Eldritch Moon block because she was croputed by Emrakul & went insane and started to kill people instead of protecting them but is their any way for Wizards to bring her back?

[@andreschion2334]

Think she was made before the mending so I don't think Sorin can recreate her... that being said, I don't see why she cant come back (considering all the weird stuff that happens in the plane).

[@starknight2262]

@@andreschion2334 I personally didn't like the fact that they killed her off. They could have had Sorin cure her madness in some way instead of killing her. I think it would have been a much better idea if she got a Planeswalkers spark from sorin and she could have Planeswalked away instead of being killed. It would have been cool if she became a Planeswalker but that's just my opinion.

[@andreschion2334]

@@starknight2262 I don't know. making her a planeswalker doesnt make much sense from a narrative perspective since she's a character meant to be the protector of a plane. Not to mention that the whole block was caused over a feud between Nahiri and Sorin. Forcing him to kill his creation is a big success if it comes down to schemes Also, sorin is a mostly black (in rare cases white) aligned character. curing emrakul's madness falls a bit out of his expertise.

[@starknight2262]

@@andreschion2334 No not really. If you remember the story, Sorin wanted to cure Avacyn not kill her.He tried several times to help her asking her to go down to the cellar where he created her to cure her but Avacyn kept refusing and attacked him and tried to kill him. So with that said Sorin might have had some kind of plan to cure her or why else would he have tried to get her to the cellar ? He knew that he couldn't create another Avacyn or another like her so the last thing he wanted to do was to kill her. Besides that he needed Avacyn to keep the peace on Innistrad. After all that was the whole point in creating her in the first place. To protect the plane and to keep order. But as far as her becoming a Planeswalkers goes it's not such a crazy idea because look at Karn he's basically a machine that became a Planeswalker. So it's not such a crazy idea for an Artificially made angel to also become a Planeswalker just like Karn. My idea is that instead of killing Avacyn let's say they imprison her but she is still infected with Emrakul's madness but sorin tries to cure her while the Gatewatch goes on to fight against Emrakul then sorin realizes that he can't her on his own and wants to take her to Zendakir where he can get help from Ugin so he gives her a piece of his own spark so she can become a Planeswalker but when he does Avacyn escapes and Planeswalker away but Sorin couldn't go after her because he still has to deal with Nahiri and the story goes on the same from there. You see this way it gives sorin something to do in future Stories by searching for Avacyn because I think eventually Sorin Is going to defeat Nahiri and then what ? He has nothing else to do in the future. This way he stays relevant by giving him something to do. Besides Nahiri shouldn't still have a grudge against Sorin since her plane of Zendakir was saved by the Gatewatch. If Anything it's Sorin who should still have a grudge against Nahiri for summoning Emrakul to Innistrad and for trapping him inside a wall.

[@andreschion2334]

@@starknight2262 Okay, that was quite a bit to unpack. First paragraph. You're not really disagreeing with me. Curing madness was beyond Sorin's field of expertise (blue mana being the one that depends on mental protection and even that is debatable with the how Jayce was struggling with him.) It makes more sense for Sorin to kill avacyn than to imprison her given how there is an eldrazi invasion going on. The second paragraph is a nice fanfic, though I believe you are overlooking several details about the story and characters: - From a meta angle, not much can be gained from having avacyn as a planeswalker. If you want a character with a divine complex/purpose learning of the bigger multiverse, we have calix now. - Wasn't Ugin supposed to be believed dead by Sorin and Nahiri, given how the former barely cared for what went on outside of the plane while the latter was imprisoned in the helvault? - Sorin is a pragmatic character, and he is very reluctant to abandon his plane (which is basically what kicked off his grudge agaisnt nahiri). He wouldn't go out looking for ugin while his plane is at risk. - He also wouldn't waste time and resources trying to cure a deranged angel (i mean, it would be as if trying to cure brisela) and doubt he would ask help to a mage on this matter. At best, Avacyn is a prized tool, but a tool nonetheless. - Nahiri does have a reason to hold a grudge. She fought the eldrazi alone, then went to sorin to demand only for the guy's callousness to push her buttons, the thing escalated and he sealed her in the helvault for a really long time. And when she escaped she discovered the eldrazi escaped again. The gatewatch captured them, but they only 2 out of the 3 and there were casualties. She wasn't there because Sorin considered she needed a time out and forgot about here.

[@johnnyscifi]

From the (hell)vault

[@johnnyscifi]

Shes awesome!!!

[@dr.coz3f906]

What’s next on Zendkar?

[@Maitremelon]

Magalie Villeunevie xD

[@wernerb9014]

The original art is gorgeous but all the art that followed looks like someone else!

[@henryglo]

The Secret Lair art are actually sloppy. I prefer the Dark Ascension version. So well done.

[@marcelbehncke71]

Wow this was a great video my King @AetherHub :) I am your loyal servant :) i like your voice , a truly voice of a king. This is intressting card

[@cadewallman4936]

You should fix you logo at the beginning of your videos. The top 1/4th of it is off. Just saying

[@brycebledsoe3870]

Ik it's just art to make it look cool but I hope she never goes through anything that tangles easily cause she's gonna lose that sword 😂

[@funpolepel]

So many ads

[@dragonballtalk8527]

She looks good but is not dressed in a way that makes me like her.I'm not attracted to Joan of arc but good card for my 99 in my deck number 11

[@alexandervdb]

So you're complaining she's not wearing 'sexy armor'? I mean if you're looking to get aroused by your deck just play oko and dryad like everyone else and stop complaining about women wearing clothes