What's Happening With The Northern Line Extension?

The Northern line is growing - with two new stations at Nine Elms and Battersea.
But how and when? This explainer animation tells you what you need to know.

[@ryanfleming4665]

Geoff sounds different in this video.

[@ok7513]

This is not Geoff

[@hanskniezand2049]

@@ok7513 Nah, it is, he's just putting on a silly voice.

[@MikeWillSee]

@@ok7513 r/whooosh

[@SamsVlogstrainsmore]

Ryan Fleming I was about to say the same thing 😂

[@dorsettyke]

There's always one comment from someone obsessed with this Geoff bloke!

[@chazhuttton]

...and unaffordable housing awaits. Ha haaaa.

[@leonbanks5728]

Charles Hutton It's true though.

[@kucingdterbakard3765]

Its already there though tbh

[@RayEttler]

not for those who can afford it. ha haa.

[@l1233799]

Had to rewind to be sure :)

[@hanskniezand2049]

I thought that was London all over. Unaffordable housing!!

[@DavidShepheard]

0:37 "From autumn 2021 passengers will be able to continue along the new branch to Battersea, where a ton of new restaurants, roof gardens and unaffordable housing awaits!" Tell it like it is!

[@jamielnash5049]

Actually it's December 2020

[@reececollison5101]

Jamie Nash it’s been delayed 😞

[@Oofy_Transport_2011]

David Shepheard I love 💔 we love 💔 new people

[@triggerwarning7662]

Now do one for Barking Riverside.

[@Samuel_J1]

"It passes beneath the Victoria line by just 3 metres." *laughs in Tottenham Court Road Station*

[@FusionZenFlame]

Because Tottenham court road has a smaller gap then 3 metres

[@jacksugden8190]

Too bad a connection wasn’t made

[@seansoraghan3245]

@@jacksugden8190 They didn’t want to overload the Victoria line

[@jacksugden8190]

@@seansoraghan3245 Northern a separate line at Stockwell

[@R.a.t.t.y]

Continuing to Clapham Junction makes sense. There's a lot of money to be spent. Also CJ is very busy and thus would increase that. So at least a 9 figure sum (£100m+) really needs to be spent there. Escalators, new wide overpass with coffee and other shops, improved signage, etc. Once completed, you can fly into Gatwick and just one change onto the Northern line.

[@hairyairey]

Power stations in fact. There were two side by side. So the station should be Battersea Power Stations Station.

[@ChilternTransportProductions]

Or just call it Battersea? It's an awfully long name as it is...

[@DavidShepheard]

@@ChilternTransportProductions There is already a station called Battersea Park, near Battersea Park. And there is another station in Battersea, called Clapham Junction. Battersea is a big place. This station is being built at Battersea Power Station. It really needs to be called Battersea Power Station. I would love for TfL to build the station as a big box, similar to Canary Wharf, but square. And with four big round lift shafts, so that it looks like an underground version of the power station above.

[@southlondontrainsbusesandl1699]

Queenstown Road Battersey exists

[@southlondontrainsbusesandl1699]

I meant Battersea

[@mikenash7049]

How about "Battersea Animals", in honour of the Pink Floyd album cover? :0)

[@javiervagabond9524]

It’s amazing how quickly they designed and built this extension to provide transport for the rich people that will live in the new developments around Battersea Power Station, but the working class living south of Elephant & Castle have been waiting since 1949 for an extension of the Bakerloo Line.

[@vincentdeguard4726]

rich people by-and-large will not be using it much. it for all the workers, bar staff, hotel workers, maids, nannies, butlers, cleaners, shop assistants etc. the wealthy have their cars and taxis to get them about without mixing in with the "commonfolk"

[@jeffrichards4399]

It makes no sense that this extension has not gone on to Clapham Junction unless TFL fear a capacity issue on the Northern Line.

[@joesos]

i assume thats exactly what would happen

[@Dave-hn5tl]

That is exactly what TfL fears I believe. Camden Town needs a capacity upgrade to extend to Clapham Jcn, let alone splitting the Northern line.

[@simongleaden2864]

Mornington Crescent!!

[@Tomi_janet15]

They planned to extend it to Clapham Junction but it was scrapped

[@SouthLondonRailwayPhotography]

Makes total sense not to extend it to Clapham Junction, models found that trains will fill up at Clapham Junction and not serve the new development properly, defeating the point of the extension. Relief for trains from Clapham Jn into Central London will come with Crossrail 2. Because TfL found that an extension to Clapham Junction was not feasible almost instantly, the capacity upgrade at Camden Town has nothing to do with it and is only relevant to operationally splitting the line in 2.

[@garym518]

Thanks for a very clear explanation of what's happening

[@HesJustSteven]

Who else had to double back and re hear the unaffordable housing really quick?

[@hojomo]

Superb! Thanks for the update. Always good to have dreams 😉

[@peterpowis4145]

great info thanks! I was looking to find out more about this. please update when possible. many thanks :)

[@customtransport2777]

This is the only extension that I am really excited about because I live close to Battersea although would have been better if the Northern Line went further to Clapham Junction

[@n1thmusic229]

It will after Crossrail 2 is complete so it will be done by about 2170 at this rate

[@NonStopWrestlingNetwork]

Shoot up - well that is something different.

[@BestofUKChannel]

Great information on the line extension, thanks for the update :) x

[@Weesperbuurt]

Very clear and logical ....thank you

[@hausaffe100]

i wounder, why they didn't built this extension through Vauxhall. would have provided a lot of interchange options

[@xr6lad]

Exactly what I thought watching this. Go up to Vauxhall with an interchange station then nine elms. Seems a waste of an opportunity to make the extension even more useful.

[@mastertrams]

Because, despite the appearance on the tube map, it is nowhere near Vauxhall tube or national rail station. To get an interchange with the Victoria, you'd have to build an entirely new station midway between Vauxhall and Stockwell.

[@thesalandarian3314]

xr6lad yes but bad road connections

[@SouthLondonRailwayPhotography]

Because it's meant to serve the new development in Nine Elms, not Vauxhall. Also Vauxhall and Nine Elms are a 5 minute walk apart, hardly no where near, but also not in the alignment the extension is taking.

[@imakefilms8064]

To be fair, geoff rode the kennington loop on secrets of the northern line

[@ideuni]

and i did too just i didn't record it or put it on youtube

[@reececollison5101]

I struggle to see how Nine Elms and Battersea will be entirely zone 1 stations, with Vauxhall being further north than the two and being on the border of 1 and 2 how would they show that on the map 🤔 and Battersea Park which is fully in Zone 2.

[@jacksugden8190]

At least it will be free for me after 09:00 weekdays/free weekends as have a 60+ Oyster Card. Oh well, the best things in are free 😀.

[@spikethea2630]

💸

[@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333]

Great video. ☺️

[@AndrewG1989]

Amazing video. Perhaps rename Battersea Power Station to East Battersea or Battersea East as it’s to the east of Battersea Park. I do hope that the Northern Line might extend to Clapham Junction which is already a busy interchange station where London Overground meets with National Rail (South Western Railway and Southern). Plus I think that the Northern Line to Clapham Junction could be proposed when Crossrail 2 does get the go ahead with a new twin tunnel portal being built to the north of Wimbledon station.

[@DavidShepheard]

I hope they don't. It's really annoying when the estate agents and property developers trying to gentrify London erase the local history by changing the name of a place. The original case of this is Clapham Junction, where the builder's of the station didn't want to admit it was in Battersea, so pretended it was in Clapham. There have been several attempts to get the Battersea Power Station demolished by stealth. Locals have had to fight to stop it getting pulled down. Battersea Power Station is an iconic landmark. Everyone knows where it is.

[@AndrewG1989]

@@DavidShepheard That is very true. Indeed.

[@alexleo172]

2:23 Earl's Court, Vauxhall & Hoxton: am i a joke to you

[@DerekHartley]

1:04 I know this is London, but you shouldn't be shooting up on the train.

[@MichaelTavares]

Why not split the Northern line into two separate lines after this?

[@user-df9iy1sn9v]

Southern line will appear😄

[@n1thmusic229]

Because trains on both the charing cross and Bank branches serve both the Edgeware and High Barnet branch, plus during peak hours some trains run through charing cross to Morden, so if this should happen then why not have the central line woodford-Hainault service become an independent line

[@petitkruger2175]

yes! all they need to do is quad-track the Northern line at Camden Town to create 'the southern line'! the colour could be a a bright pink, gold or lime

[@kingelvis1977d]

Is this definitely going to open in the autumn ? You don't seem to hear anything about crossrail anymore , when is that going to open ? Wasn't it supposed to be December 2018 . Shoddy work Ted .

[@n1thmusic229]

@@kingelvis1977d Unlike Crossrail, this is supposedly on time and opening is scheduled in 2 months

[@Tonydjjokerit]

well done for the vid Londonist!!RESPECT!!

[@Porkcylinder]

The irony of the 'northern' line only being extended saaf

[@bf2404]

Exactly. Why south London being gentrified to extreme is beyond me. Only a extremely rich person would buy there or a mug who will potentially be living on the breadline after the mortgage leaves their account each month.

[@obamaprism9702]

Literally every line currently predominantly serves the north right now

[@yggdrasil9039]

Shame no connection with the Victoria Line and a new station there.

[@AndrewG1989]

ygg drasil I thought of that as well

[@n1thmusic229]

There should be a station there Honsestly, I'd Call It Vauxhall Interchange or South Lambeth

[@RobynAnarchist]

Just split the Northern line into two, damn it

[@AndrewG1989]

Natalie Robyn Was thinking of Charing Cross & City Line or Morgan Line (Battersea Power Station-Edgware) and the current Northern Line (Morden-High Barnet & Finchley Central-Mill Hill East). Or the current Northern Line (Battersea Power Station-Edgware) and the new Bank & City Line (Morden-High Barnet and Finchley Central-Mill Hill East).

[@sallynorton7262]

@@AndrewG1989 What about the colour on the Tube map?

[@mastertrams]

Camden Town in its current state makes that an impossible suggestion. To separate the Northern line, you'd have to completely rebuild Camden Town so that the two lines don't cross each other, which simply isn't the case at the moment. Currently, either central branch can access either Northern branch, which would limit capacity on both lines, so it's best for now to keep it as one line. But rebuild Camden Town, and you're onto something.

[@mr51406]

0:45 😜 Good one! 1:55 I’m 6’4”! I concur it’s a shame, it I know it’s impossible to change. As a new visitor to London last year I was surprised how low the ceiling of the cars is, and how round they are. Any progress as to splitting the Northern Line into 2 separate lines? As always, great vids! ⭐️☮️❤️

[@Drawyah]

If you get a chance, make your way over to Glasgow and ride the clockwork orange. Those trains give you around 6' of clearance, giving you very little in the way of standing room.

[@Edant]

Nice

[@KofelinaPL]

It would be good if it was extended to Clapham.

[@simongleaden2864]

If it were.

[@Tomi_janet15]

It was meant to stop at Clapham Junction but they scrapped that idea

[@dedoelmx]

@@Tomi_janet15 Planbed beyond 2050. Its depending on the phase of crossrail 2

[@Tomi_janet15]

@@dedoelmx Thanks

[@RSDonovan]

Why is South London so poorly served by tube? Wouldn’t a much more useful extension be the Victoria Line south from Brixton through Norbury and Thornton Heath to East Croydon to relieve the awful commuter pressure on National Rail?

[@AndrewG1989]

Spot on.

[@PGATProductions]

As a south Londoner a bakerloo extension from Elmers end to east Croydon via Norwood junction would be brilliant as well

[@robertingram9404]

Kennington where it started

[@hartstukken]

Geoff sounds super young in this video! wow!

[@hugoferreiraleite]

I never understood the reason of build a new line extension, put that extension passing underneath of an existent tube line and don't build any interchange station in between both lines!?

[@n1thmusic229]

Probably because there's already an interchange in Stockwell

[@SmokeyBCN]

Since only charing Cross branch trains will run to Battersea, after the extension it would make sense to name one of the branches as an entirely new line.

[@paulkennedy8701]

Maybe. But then you'd have to show both lines going along both branches in the north (Edgware and High Barnet).

[@NickPwnsUTube]

I think they'll wait to sort out the mess at Camden Town before they think about splitting the line in two officially.

[@pz189]

@@paulkennedy8701 Works well enough with the Met and Piccadilly branches to Uxbridge though

[@paulkennedy8701]

@@pz189 True. And if it were only 1 branch to be shown that way they might do it. But it's both. In fact all 3, because there are some from Mill Hill East going each way in the peaks. I think Nick's right. They won't start referring to it as 2 lines till they can disentangle completely.

[@andrewsitu5107]

@@pz189 and I believe there is a branch of the District Line that has parallel running with the Piccadilly Line too.

[@phillipwilloughby5013]

The operation of the Charing Cross and Bank branches are to be seperated. And 50 new trains are to be built. At Camden Town the number of trains are to increase from 24 to 30-36 per hour.

[@grumpylimey4539]

Greeeeeeat. I usually AirBnB in that area. It'll unaffordable now!

[@tyrozone5]

1:33 D’oh!

[@edwardjoynes7961]

Are there already enough trains on the circuit to provide the new extension?

[@MTRfundamentalist]

Super Rare announcement:'This is Nine Elms. The next station is Kennington. This is a Northern Line service to Edgware via Bank and Archway' (Trains can't go via Bank from Battersea, and the northern heights plan was cancelled, so trains to Edgware must go via Hampstead.)

[@ashleyjiscool]

Alt universe be like

[@MrTudwud]

As usual, as in all London Transport history, Wandsworth is left out. Wandsworth has two main line stations, nowhere near the High Street, in Wandsworth Town and Wandsworth Common. It has never had an Underground service, the nearest being the District Line at Putney and Southfields and it never had a Green Line service in their heyday. It is definitely the poor relation in local transport and has seen its bus services cut back drastically in terms of mileage and other places served. It is crying out for an Underground and or Tram service but is ignored every time. Obviously the Wandsworth Councillors don't give a toss!!!

[@vinnyvasquez]

0:43 "Where a ton of new unaffordable housing awaits", sad but true. The tube trains there will be full of cleaners going back and forth to scrub apartments of the filthy rich who won't even be in the same continent. Seems a bit of a daft extension with Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station being so close, looks like it'd take less than 5 mins to walk it. Extending it immediately to Clapham Junction would be huge and so useful for South West London. It would instantly become one of the busiest stations South of the river and ease so much train traffic to and from Clapham Junction.

[@chrisst8922]

It's gonna be bloody awkward to do this little branch quickly. The visit all the stations challenge'll have to be done again and it'll be bound to add, say a quarter of an hour to it.

[@tennyho3236]

You are able to remain in the u-turning train at Kennington unless there’s a detrainment...

[@user-ol9se6xr3l]

What animation software is used in this video?

[@frediculousbiggs1]

Is there any suggestion if there will be an OSI between Battersea Power Station and Battersea Park? If so, then BP and Queenstown Road Battersea will presumably need to move to (at least) Zone 1/2

[@madandy3176]

Why the bigger tunnels? If they were concerned with safety they would not even think to run trains packed with people into blocked tunnels so if a train breaks down or the power goes then people can walk either back or forwards to a station. If you get the Victoria Line in the rush hour the trains are totally cram-packed and one behind the other so there are at least two stops between stations. I heard somebody describe it as them risking passenger safety by kettling people onto trains in tunnels because they,would not all fit on the over-crowded platforms. I mean, in Summer they advise us to take bottles of water onto the tube. Right? Let us take a reality check here. It's 1-2 minutes ride between pretty well every station underground which is in no way a hazard meriting such advice, so it follows that this advice indicates a deliberate police of putting passengers at risk by overcrowding trains in tunnels.

[@hreader]

I went to London about a fortnight ago (before the coronavirus restrictions really took hold) and found no mention of this new bit of Northern Line on the tube maps - surely by now they'd have the new branch in dotted lines with the caption 'Under construction: due to open 2021'.

[@westonsunset]

Hi, I wondered what animation software this was created with please?

[@MatthewPlato91]

So will Charing cross branch trains still be able to access the route to Morden, and will the centre reversing siding ever be used for terminating bank branch trains? So many combos.

[@rusdove56]

It's insane to have added this extension to the already overcrowded and over-complicated Northern Line. A link to the Victoria Line at Vauxhall would have made much more sense.

[@joesos]

theres already the connection at stockwell idk

[@jxsmin6682]

if nine elms was northern and Victoria it would allow people before stockwell to switch at 9 elms to get to battersea without going all the way to Kennington and back. same with those coming from above vauxhall. also makes my life easier since i live between the two and im constantly debating getting off at vauxhall or stockwell and taking a bus.

[@darranfaulkner3011]

Looks great. But has to better, then the whole Elizabeth line picture 😂😂👍

[@andrewsitu5107]

Should call it Brexit Line instead.

[@fabriceduchenne7237]

Hi ! Ok & Super ... Thanks

[@skyscraperdata2518]

Londonist, If I wanted to change from the bank branch to the Battersea Branch, I would have continued towards Stockwell and taken a 7-12 minute walk, to Nine Elms. And yes I know, changing at Kennington is quicker, but I prefer to get off at Stockwell.

[@namelast6982]

Will there be a Battersea Power Station Station Station shop?

[@DavidShepheard]

Maybe they will have a Battersea Power Station Station Stationary Shop.

[@namelast6982]

@@DavidShepheard I suppose the shop could have a extensive Battersea Power Station Station Stationary Station dedicated solely to Battersea Power Station Station, though I don't think pencils would be long enough to get that all on the side.

[@thesalandarian3314]

David Shepheard it would just be called WHSmith battersea

[@HezyTech]

I really, really like this new presenter. Keep him, Geoff

[@Topboy53]

Geoff is better

[@PaulJaYmes]

Battersea Power Station is being developed not just into housing, but also offices, including Apple's new UK HQ

[@AndrewG1989]

Paul JaYmes I’ve heard about that on the news.

[@ianmcclavin]

If they were to put the Kennington Loop into passenger service for terminating trains, this would make things easier for those wishing to transfer from Southbound Charing Cross branch to Northbound Bank Branch trains, it would also work for Bank to CX Southbound to Northbound, by riding the loop, passengers changing as such wouldn't have to use the stairs to switch platforms!! I don't know why this isn't encouraged under step free access schemes.

[@AndrewG1989]

Ian Mcclavin that’s a good point.

[@felixw19]

1:37 just make it different lines by this point.....

[@DavidShepheard]

They need to rebuild Camden Town to do that. There is some sort of crossover junction, or rather a pair of them just south of the station. They need to get rid of that and have two pairs of tunnels that pass past each other. Separating the City Line and the Charring Cross Line should allow them to run trains closer together.

[@felixw19]

@@DavidShepheard no they don't need to do that. They can just decide that from now on every train from the Bank branch will take one of the north branches and all the trains from the Waterloo branch will take the other without amy structural changes. This will leave a some connection tunnels with no regular service, but that's ok

[@dalecn2417]

@@felixw19 They will do it but they want Camden Town done first as a policy

[@dorthusiast]

@@felixw19 As far as I'm concerned, they do need to separate the two lines at Camden Town, because Camden Town is already always overcrowded and there isn't head room or room for more than one line to go on the same tracks. This could lead to train accidents and delays as it would override Camden Town's available space. Right now, Camden Town is the only station where the two lines connect but aren't separate (Kennington and Euston both have separate rails for separate branches of the Northern line). Camden Town already needs large renovation due to its overcrowding. Let's add the division of the branches alongside that upgrade.

[@felixw19]

husk.org/www.geocities.com/athens/acropolis/7069/ltcamden.jpg If I am interpreting this right, a service from Bank to Edgware and from Charing cross to Finchley and vice versa should be possible without the lines interacting with each other.

[@peteregan3862]

Britain might have invented the railway but it sure needs to get rid of much of the above ground railway as it is poorly spaced and uses a lot of unnecessary surface space cutting communities into many parts. Appropriately spaced tunnels would massively reduce the operating cost of the railways. And recovery of urban land for higher value use would be economically worth it.

[@dominicrobertson7626]

Tunnels are very expensive to dig, plus all the infrastructure already exists at surface level. Whilst I do understand what you're saying it would just be too expensive

[@Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@@dominicrobertson7626 Not to mention them being harder to evacuate

[@wclifton968gameplaystutorials]

It would be much easier and cheaper to just build over the railways like the huge office block that sits above the southern end of Wimbledon station

[@peteregan3862]

@@dominicrobertson7626 As a civil engineer and transport expert, It's my view that it is actually good value when the benefits are weighed against what happens now. Almost nobody understands the land use transport relationship.

[@davecoz4227]

any chance you'll do something on the mess that is crossrail?

[@lynnecanlas]

wow,There are more stations now!

[@84Knuckles]

Infamous does not mean very famous. It means well known for a bad quality or Deed.

[@kucingdterbakard3765]

It was pretty shite

[@dorthusiast]

I guess you have no idea about the Kennington loop. It's known for leading to a lot of people getting lost and panicking as they expect to see it get terminated or continue Southbound, but it doesn't.

[@dorthusiast]

And also there are conspiracy theories going around it, too. You're officially not allowed to ride it.

[@anonymousanonymous7250]

Oh darn, I was hoping this was the original Northern Line Extension.

[@AndrewG1989]

anonymous anonymous it is.

[@vincentdeguard4726]

firstly; is it an "extension" or a spur? ...i'd say the latter...but i not studied transport infrastructure. secondly; the real trick/treat would have been to propose it being connected to Clapham Junction

[@NickPwnsUTube]

An extension to Clapham Junction is on the cards one Crossrail 2 gets approved, as the video says. This is because the trains would be too busy straight out of Clappy J, as everyone coming in from Surrey would be piling on to the Northern line there, rather than the Jubilee/Northern etc at Waterloo where they'd be more suited to handling the crowds.

[@vincentdeguard4726]

CrossRail 2?!! haha that be the Charles Line then

[@jamesrice21]

@@vincentdeguard4726 If CR2 is as delayed as the Purple train, it will probably be called the King George VII line

[@paulkennedy8701]

@@vincentdeguard4726 It's seen as an extension because the Northern line has 2 central branches (and only 1 route in the south). Most services on the Charing Cross branch terminate at Kennington. So the new construction is an extension of that branch. And when things are sorted out at Camden Town and the line becomes 2 completely separate lines there will be no spur at all. (Except for Mill Hill East of course.)

[@dorthusiast]

@@paulkennedy8701 Mill Hill East should be separated from Northern line at this point. I would approve of a small Overground line like that of Romford - Emerson Park - Upminster.

[@robtyman4281]

I'm willing to bet that Crossrail 2 will never get built. We're having enough problems with Crossrail 1 right now. Better to build that Northern Line extension from Battersea Power Station to C.J. But seeing how slowly things move in the UK with regards to anything that isn't a road, I won't be totally unsurprised if the initial extension doesn't open til 2030 - another ten years. Meaning that the spur onto C.J is looking unlikely before 2035. Slow?? YES. But then this is the UK, not China.....where it would all be built and open by 2023.....or 24 at the latest.

[@skyem123]

I am not sure it'd be wise to let the passengers of Clapham Junction crowd onto one branch of the Northern Line... It'd be nice as an option, but it'd almost certainly be overcrowded and horrible for everyone involved.

[@AndrewG1989]

Skye Very true

[@colscoco6616]

So if you’re at Battersea and want to get to Vauxhall by tube, you’ve got to change twice despite them being so close? Do any other tube lines cross each other without a station at the point of cross, like this will?

[@frediculousbiggs1]

Easier to walk to Queentown Road Battersea station and one stop on a SWR service

[@paulkennedy8701]

You could do it with 1 change, to National Rail at Waterloo. There are a few places where Underground lines cross without interchange: the W&C crosses the District/Circle near Blackfriars, White City on the Central is close to Wood Lane on the H&C, the Ealing Broadway branch of the Central line crosses the Piccadilly, the West Ruislip branch crosses the Piccadilly near Park Royal and it crosses the Metropolitan (and Piccadilly) near West Ruislip, the Bakerloo crosses the Metropolitan near Kenton. (This is just LUL/LUL near-misses. There are many more involving NR, Overground and DLR.)

[@Hootonium242]

Why was the Kennington loop necessary when trains the world over can just drive back in the other direction? Are there not enough lines of track or points at the station or something? Insightful answers appreciated, cheers!

[@frediculousbiggs1]

It's because the Charing Cross branch platforms are on the "outside" of the Bank branch platforms, allowing a cross-platform interchange when travelling south or north. The only way of doing this is by having a loop. It can be seen here: carto.metro.free.fr/cartes/metro-tram-london/index.php?gpslat=51.487242&gpslon=-0.10117&zoom=5

[@Hootonium242]

@@frediculousbiggs1 Nice! Thank you :)

[@baruchpinnick811]

(0:25) Why is the Kennington Loop "infamous"?

[@iloverandomstuffify]

@Jay Foreman time for the long awaited updated song

[@DavidShepheard]

He will need to add in the Bakerloo Line Extension Stations too.

[@ollyaway]

Now the northern line is extending From Battersea Power Station To Clapham Junction

[@Wasserfeld.]

First I've heard it's going to be Zone 1. That is ridiculous considering Battersea Park and Queenstown Road are both Zone 2, but it's unsurprising for TfL...

[@elmanmammadov3189]

Welcome to the zone1 club, Kennington!

[@kevinjones4559]

Any reason why is wasn't extended somewhere useful like Clapham Junction?

[@jamesebrown2043]

Why more underground interchanges? Like through Chelsea Line as Crossrail2, and there's more; Waterloo & City line terminates + underground depot sidings at Clapham junction from Waterloo. Well Waterloo & City line goes from Waterloo to Lambert North, North-West Kennington, Vauxhall, Nine Elm's, Battersea Park South-east where btw Battersea park STN of Southern rail + Overground and Queenstown Road by South-Western Railway, then Clapham West where a town picks somewhere like High St of shops, and finally Clapham junction terminates, see. That's why someone plan was, (like me).

[@Wildcard71]

From Battersea to Clapham would be an even smaller step than the extension itself. More ideas: removing Circle Line and run the Metropolitan Line beyond Aldgate to High Street Kensington Watford bypass (Metropolitan Line, already officially mentioned) Bakerloo extension to New Cross gate; proposal: take over the Lewisham to Hayes Line Central Line extension to Greenford via Drayton Green

[@jamesebrown2043]

@@Wildcard71 It just one problem thought; how do we get all-a-way through to High St Kensington from Aldgate from Metropolitan Line if there has enough room platform lengths against S8 as 8 cars because all Circle + District lines manage S7 as 7 cars of platform length fits with via Victoria station. So how do we get there for more information? Figures, why do we use Metropolitan Line 7 cars of S7? Anything else you want say or don't want to whatever you like?

[@Galaxy_Undersniperrr]

What’s the music? I have been looking for it for a longg time

[@sullivan912]

What is infamous about the Kennington Loop?

[@thesalandarian3314]

Tom Sullivan someone died on it

[@JudgeHill]

Isn’t Earls Court a Zone 1/2 station as well? You can that to central London. Maybe I missed your point...

[@paulkennedy8701]

I think their point is that the stations on either side (of the 1/2 station) are both in zone 1 (W'loo and 9 Elms, High St Ken and Bayswater). I don't think that's the case on either side of Earl's Court.

[@JudgeHill]

@@paulkennedy8701 Oh yes, I get it now!

[@AndrewG1989]

True. Why not make Earls Court and Kensington Olympia Zones 1/2. Just like Stratford which is in Zones 2/3.

[@ObsidianXXX]

10 or 15 years of health and safety checks and should be good to go for the next extension🙄

[@ObsidianXXX]

Lewis Kelly or we can watch every other 1st world country in the world embarrass us with their innovations while we can't even get trains to run on time whatever the wrestler. So you stay indoors you delicate little flower and don't you worry your pretty little head about any crashes 😘

[@IAmTheBeckett]

And those on the Morden end will lose our Charing Cross services entirely... 😢

[@andrewsitu5107]

The Northern Line needs splitting like the Metropolitan Line. The Hammersmith to East London section is now the Hammersmith & City Line, with Aldgate serving as the Met's southeastern terminus.

[@RBenjo21]

"You're not allowed to ride the Kennington loop". Actually, you are. That's why it exists - it was upgraded to be safe for passenger transport and that's why they don't chuck you off the train at Kennington like they do at every other terminus.

[@SimulatorTobi]

Is it quicker to ride the kennington loop than using the escalators? Let's say you're coming from the charing cross branch and want to go to borough.

[@lewiskelly14]

It isn't technically a Terminus in the same way that the Waterloo and City line would be at Waterloo

[@lewiskelly14]

@@SimulatorTobi no because the Kennington loop comes south on the Charing Cross branch and then goes North on the Charing Cross branch

[@paulkennedy8701]

@@SimulatorTobi I've checked the working timetables and each terminating train waits at Kennington (crawling round the loop) for 7 or 8 minutes before heading back. I can't tell how much of this time spent in the departing platform, but it would probably be faster on foot.

[@tjejojyj]

It seems strange that they had the TBMs in the ground pointed in the right direction and didn’t dig through to Clapham Junction. Platforms and interchange could have come later. I guess they would have had to dig under the lines their and that would have added risk. Still.

[@Codraroll]

Aw bugger, I had just learned Jay Foreman's tube station song...

[@ltv_2005]

Earl's court is in Zones 1/2

[@ZomaarBrian]

You can't go back into zone 1 going through Earl's Court from a zone 1 station

[@AndrewG1989]

Popcorn anyone.

[@iamlinxx_]

You got an instant like for that unaffordable housing comment

[@bojack40]

Where will battersea station be specifically?

[@AndrewG1989]

Apparently it is to the east of Battersea Park.

[@DarthCoco]

'unaffordable houses await', yeah that is London today

[@SamSitar]

Battersea to and from Clapham Junction should also be an out-of-system transfer.

[@philrabe910]

Good to see London is building plenty of housing that the average Londoner can't afford. Kind of like here in San Francisco. er. I mean across the Bay in SF. I was forced out by SKYROCKETING rent and landowner greed [those who own homes know that by keeping the supply tight, their property gains a LOT more value- so they always come out in force when density increases are proposed.]

[@LivvyHackett]

Seriously? Nice!

[@oliverbrelsford5472]

But surely you don't need that extension to Clapham because you could just change at Waterloo???

[@KasabianFan44]

At Waterloo? From a Southern train?

[@oliverbrelsford5472]

@@KasabianFan44 I stand corrected.

[@MattCamelly]

01:30 How did Geoff ride it in secrets of the Northern Line?

[@gabri_maybe]

He stayed in the train

[@MattCamelly]

@Roblox Roxx Not that I remember

[@BOOGE64]

Why would they continue to call both branches the Northern Line since they will now be two separate lines?

[@paulkennedy8701]

Separate in the centre and the south. Not yet in the north. Until they have more capacity for passenger interchange at Camden Town they'll have to keep running both northern branches via both central routes.

[@AbandonedCityCamoCrewExplorers]

But they call it Affordable Luxury .der oxymoron

[@ralph3539]

I swear Geoff rode on the Kennington loop!?

[@AndrewG1989]

White Roodster better to ask him on Twitter 😉

[@ralph3539]

EssexLad 8919 what’s with the wink?

[@AndrewG1989]

😉😉

[@David-sv7by]

No connection with the Victoria Line and no connection to Battersea Park or Queenstown Road stations. I heard the developers did not want interconnection....true or false ?

[@NSE465]

Not allowed to ride the Kennington loop? I did. And so did Geoff.

[@stevieinselby]

So is it going to be called Battersea, like you have shown on the maps, or Battersea Power Station, which would just be ridiculous ... (a) the power station won't be there any more, (ii) there are no other rail stations called Battersea so why does it need a suffix, and (3) Battersea Power Station station is plain silly?

[@paulkennedy8701]

There are no other stations called JUST "Battersea". However, there is Battersea Park and Queens Road Battersea. They may think that having one WITHOUT a "suffix" might cause confusion. Especially if the undifferentiated one is a NEW one. There are 4 Kensingtons but none that is JUST "Kensington". The same with the 5 Ealings, the 6 Harrows and the 7 Actons.

[@jacksugden8190]

Shame there will be no direct service via Bank, think due to this, it’s a floored service if you want a direct train to Battersea, in the end it was just one of those things.