WHAT'S THE BEST CARD IN KAMIGAWA NEON DYNASTY FOR cEDH? - Play to Win Set Review

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[@WeebsUnite]

Sidenote that wasn't mentioned: Containment Construct allows you to use the Channel lands for their effect then immediately play them as your land for turn.

[@GrimoireM]

Also applies to the Cycling Lands...aaand I've found the infinite: Tectonic Reformation + Amulet + Bounce Land. Cycle, discard, play, tap, and bounce. Draws your deck and makes sure you have spare mana. Landfall Commanders are happy.

[@HalcyonVentures]

@@GrimoireM you need a way to play infinite lands with this loop - the Containtment Construct doesn't let you get around the 1 land per turn clause

[@GrimoireM]

@@HalcyonVentures Ah right crap. Need to recur Summer Bloom to finish the loop. Only way I can see to do that is combining an active Mystic Sanctuary plus Lotus Field and Crucible with the Amulet. Field pays for the Bloom and sacs itself and Sanctuary, netting a land drop each spin for the Reformation, which just makes infinite landfall triggers and mana.

[@geoffreygarfein9169]

These are my favorite videos that you all make. I enjoy all of your content; however these really ARE my FAVORITE. Plus wearing my Pay to Win beenie as I watch this is stroking my Superfan status. LOL

[@anthonymarciano6050]

Superfan status? Riiiiight

[@kstandish42]

The land commander is Arixmethes guys! Goes infinite with Freed from the Real or Pemmin’s Aura and eats face or just dumps it into a green sun zenith and wins that way.

[@pe3der]

Yeah realized that later... I don't know how I forgot that lol I played that commander for almost a year (Tyler)

[@kstandish42]

@@pe3der oh dude all good! Good to know you’ve always been a simic player though haha 😂

[@pe3der]

@@kstandish42 Always always. First commander I built myself was Vorel, almost 10 years ago now :)

[@WarkyWark]

Melira doesn’t combo with Devoted Druid, she turns off Druid’s ability.

[@WanderingTadpole]

Something that I believe people don't tend to point out is that March of Otherworldy Light also is great against a turn 1 Mana Crypt or any other 0 MV artifact. It might not be the best, but in non-blue decks with white can be a great removal at instant speed.

[@Cha0sRising90]

Quick note on Banishing Slash: You have to control both an artifact and enchantment.

[@Pyraxian1]

1. Thanks for doing these! Love seeing you guys talk about cards even when the consensus is "eh this probably isn't quite good enough"; your reasoning always helps me understand the format better! 2. As a close friend of Nick, super cool to hear him get a shout out on his Hinata build, and I've been telling him that Heliod's Intervention isn't total trash for a year now hahaha.

[@robertbauerle5592]

Moon snare prototype can also turn off your own winter and static orbs or 3-ball in urza if you don’t have access to urza, which is relevant.

[@jacob510]

I wanted to correct something said @6:17 if you attempt to put an aura onto the battlefield onto an illegal target i.e abundant growth onto light-paws, the ability fails, and the aura remains in its last zone. unless they change that interaction with the release of the rules for this set, that is the current ruling @14:25 I like that the sagas trigger ETB's when they transform

[@DyPie527]

Jin-Gitaxias in Kinnan has the extra sweet benefit of making your basalt monolith practically uncounterable due to the copy ability working on artifacts 2, which I think is pretty sweet for Kinnan specifically.

[@DMBlade4]

The greek word "naútēs" means sailor. An astronaut is one who sails among the stars. A mechanaut would be a mechanical sailor, basically.

[@pe3der]

Thanks for the etymology!

[@Yuurike]

Just a quick note regarding art on March of the otherwordy light. It reflects Japanese Matsuri (festival) and Omikoshi (a kind of palanquin for Shinto gods). I participate almost every year bearing omikoshi at festival with people in neighborhood and it’s quite fun actually.

[@pe3der]

I've seen depictions before but never realized it was a Shinto thing. Neat!

[@joshuadempsey5281]

I ABSOLUTELY love these videos with you guys. I don't play cEDH, BUT I love watching you play and these videos help me better understand the card and play choices you make. For me, cEDH is like pro football: I don't want to play it myself, but I really enjoy watching it played well. This channel is basically sports-center for me for cEDH. Also they way you guys analyze what makes one card better over another has been very helpful for my casual EDH deckbuilding as well.

[@damiend.7392]

Love your review content! You each have a unique perspective and dynamic personality that encourages viewing. Thanks for sharing!

[@jarednadler5943]

To answers Tyler's question about exiling sagas vs just transforming cause I had the same thought when they started revealing more and more of these. Its because of the rules of sagas. After the 3rd chapter they sac themselves so just saying chapter 3 transform would do nothing and they would die. Id argue that all of them should flip into a creature with haste because most will only become creatures at like T6+ at best

[@MattEvansable]

Love these set reviews guys!! Happy to see Tyler back!

[@hiperbird]

I think you really underestimate reconfiguration being a protection spell for commanders, you can hit thrasios with it to keep it as an engine but fizzle a removal spell

[@LPchief]

Was waiting for this! The set in general is awesome and now i only Just need this cedh info! Your view on the marches is very thoughtful and helpful

[@abrahamthayer4059]

About why they have the sagas exile and then return to the battlefield, the third counter being put on a saga causes it to sacrifice itself. This trigger would still take effect if the card was transforming so they have it exile itself in order to lose the counters and so that the card stops being a saga.

[@therealax6]

At first I thought that, but no, that wouldn't happen. Sagas only sacrifice themselves when they reach their last chapter _and they aren't the source of a triggered chapter ability that hasn't yet finished resolving_ (or hasn't yet been put on the stack). By the time the last chapter ability resolves, the permanent is no longer a Saga. So it wouldn't be sacrificed. (This is also why you can tap Urza's Saga in response to its third chapter ability, after all.)

[@Ryforge]

Love the casual discussions around both CEDH and Casual. I have created a personal playlist with all your Best card in sets videos. I noticed there's one on the channel and has the most recent one, would be awesome if you could update it with all the previous ones :D

[@masonpotato4131]

I think the red channel land seems kind of good in winota; I just don’t see much downside to playing it, so okay floor, and a pretty high ceiling with hasty non-humans. I can see some variants not playing it, but I think just replacing a mountain with it seems kind of fine to good

[@MasterDecoy1W]

Wow... I just built Winota and I totally missed that. Thanks for the heads up.

[@ngbrother]

Worth mentioning that Swift Reconfiguration is a way to give Hermit Druid haste and protection in T&T turbo druid. Layers well with devoted (as mentioned), conditional removal and various other niche applications.

[@Manifibell]

This is the first set in a long while, where I actually like all of the mechanics. They feel impactful and fun to play, rather than just some attack and get +1/+1 random stuff.

[@eavyeavy2864]

You actually dont

[@Manifibell]

@@eavyeavy2864 What?

[@gbasso666]

Swift reconfiguration can also protect vs kill spell. Also, in Portuguese we pronounce Aura the same way Cameron did. ^^

[@DMBlade4]

The land Sokenzan actually looks really good in Winota if you are running Thalia's Lancers. The lists are full of other legendary creatures like Rogakh, Ragavan, and Thalias to make it cheaper too. This is probably better than Kher Keep if that land was in the list.

[@Raaayyyyyyyyyy]

were not currently on Kher Keep, but Sokenzan is definitely something we'll be including in lists from now on

[@bulbasaurappreciator]

Love listening to you guys chat, you all have genuinely great energy together and the way you clown on each other had me looking like an idiot laughing while waiting to get my kit at prerelease

[@atlasrises4]

Great stuff as always, was hoping y'all would discuss Tameshi, even if barely. I know he's getting some discussion and he's probably my favorite from the set.

[@jackdawfool107]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, mindslaver, smokestack, stasis, winter orb, magistrate scepter coretapper. Arcane laboratory etc

[@JustforKikX]

I slotted drumbellower into my Selvala deck. The added card draw is nice and helps me dig faster.

[@gdiridium5525]

Green one actually works in commander since its not restricted to targetting your own creature - it can grab your copy of Dockside from someone else's, can even get a thoracle with the etb on the stack and let you cast Consultation with their combo still on the stack

[@orsettomorbido]

Ok, I NEED Tyler to randomly pop up and talk about lore and flavour! The Modify bit/thought was on point!

[@Flip4Crypt]

Reality Chip is my favorite in the set I think, I already have one in Rashmi and Jhoira Artifact Storm Thank you for the amazing video!!

[@Juppe123]

Really enjoyed this one, guys!! Looks like Neon is gonna be a lot of fun. Would love to listen to your nongameplay-videos via the Podcast Feed :)

[@really.really.]

I'm hyped for Reinforced Ronin, really wanna it test in midrange Animar, or maybe as a pet card Jhoira, the art is sick so extra worth the test

[@jaibell4835]

love the conetent as always. id love to you see you guys play other formas like modern as well. gotta jund em out ;)

[@Lumautis]

I'm super excited for next week. I'm glad that there is someone that likes yuriko as much as I do :)

[@pablomartinez5845]

Great vid guys, I think that something about Moonsnare Prototype with respect to Springleaf Drum that's overlooked is the ability to tap your artifacts and break parity with the sphere/orb, or squeeze some extra juice from that lotus petal, being a one drop is great for Urza while Urza hasn't hit the ground yet

[@rikytie7011]

Can't wait for your next gameplay video with these new commanders. Also I would love to see some Yuriko games bcs these new ninjas are so good imo

[@jays1de]

love the breakdowns!

[@Sygnit]

Yuriko actually got so much this set (makes sense) on both the casual and cedh level which makes me happy as a yuriko main hahahahaha

[@frankdetank9126]

Yo!!!!! You brought up enchantress decks! Light Paws looks like a ton of fun. You know me, I always ask you folks to do a best "enchantress deck in cEDH" video.

[@dantebeleren]

For Reality Chip, cards like Ornithopter and Memnite would also play well as 0 drops to cycle through off the top and an easy equip base.

[@jayvigg]

God I love your guys content. Stoked to see tyler in the video too!!

[@michaelscarn6297]

Tyler is so good in these and I'm so glad he was added recently.

[@A_Swier7]

This is my favorite youtube channel in regards to commander game play personally I love CEDH as a whole and what you guys bring to the table is not only enjoyment but there is no salt which is how the game should be especially when everyone does broken crap! I would love to be on your channel for gameplay 1 time! Not to mention I am sure it would be rather fun to make Dylan say f*** due to some stupid shenanigans, lol

[@Uefeti]

The best thing about reconfiguration-devoted combo is what it works right away! With Wizier or Melira, your devoted druid must survive the turn cycle, (or you’ll need a haste enabler), and it sucks. This makes the combo so-much better!

[@rsphii]

“Is there a land that can be your commander?” A 👏R👏I👏X👏M👏E👏T👏H👏E👏S the slumbering isle

[@Its-Lulu]

Solid review guys!

[@blaineallen5297]

I see this as a guide of what to buy cards 😍

[@swat6591]

Can't wait to see some of these cards in action next week

[@DavidGreen-ly5tm]

I'm surprised there was no mention of Tameshi, Reality Architect as a W/U stax commander. It has a bunch of lines to win the game (people have yet to decide which is best) and also plays super well with stax enchantments like stasis (It bounces its own lands to replay them) and recurs other annoyances like ethersworn canonist or rule of law.

[@HalcyonVentures]

Same, I was going to comment this if no-one else had. Really excited to see what comes out for Tameshi once people have had a chance to play around with his effects

[@ramtaro8881]

Another note on Banishing Slash with regard to Assassin's Trophy Comparison: You get the samurai not the controller of the permanent you're hitting.

[@robertbauerle5592]

@13:59 they did talk about why they made the sagas exile. They were able to give the creatures from the saga more power in exchange for them being slower. They also gave some of the creatures on the back side haste, so that was an additional option they had to work with.

[@MJkakashi]

Drumbellower works so well with Captain Sisay and Yisan....it is a great alternative to seedborn muse or ab additional "seedborn muse"

[@Death_by_Tech]

the craziest thing about containment construct is that it’s exile effect is “may”.

[@s4ad0wpi]

50:11 Arixmethes is a land when it ENTERS... I think that's the closest thing we've got to a Land that IS your Commander

[@onemanashort2195]

March of Burgeoning life does work in the format. It basically acts as a green mask of the mimic, use it to find your dockside after your opponent has one

[@danz7977]

Thumbs up for Cameron who speaks Italian! 😝 That's how we say it here in Italy! AURA!

[@StackedEDH]

Containment Construct + Survival of the Fittest is also very nice.

[@alicesampaio8108]

The way Cam said aura the first time actually resembles a lot the way we say it in brasil!

[@titak7755]

Ohh very excited! I was waiting for this video to come out! Edit: Touch the spirit realm cannot hit Rule of law, so that is unfortunate. Moonsnare Prototype vs Submerge : Submerge only puts it on top, Moonsnare can tuck to the bottom. Reality Heist: Possibly for Krark/Sakishima. Dockside entering makes it 2 mana, helps find krarks thumb. It does get you 2 artifacts as well. Not sure. Also, The Gitrog Monster LOVES the channel lands. Great video guys, very excited for this set!

[@MasterDecoy1W]

I believe the wording on prototype means that the opponent chooses where to put the removed card.

[@titak7755]

@@MasterDecoy1W OH, yeah I believe you are correct.

[@jonlamoreaux2228]

Arixmethes, the slumbering isle is the 4 mana simic thing that is a land that taps for blue green, and can be your commander.

[@jannamcjanna6802]

Love Kamigawa, lots of fun stuff for cEDH and EDH.

[@Savage_Mr_Bean14]

Been working on my own decklist for a Shorikai cedh deck most notable combos are Isochron Sceptre combos, Rings of Brighthearth combos, and Intruder Alarm combos (kinda iffy on the Intruder Alarm). I think the unique thing about this deck is its an azorius deck that is more reactive than stax, and all its combo pieces provide value outside of the combo. I opted to exclude Thassa's Oracle from my version, and instead win by milling my opponents out via Codex Shredder. :)

[@AENock]

I'm excited to try out Invoke Calamity in Krarkashima. I think it's a straight upgrade over Finale of Promise.

[@WushuTaz]

Nice review guys! As a Naruto fan, I appreciate the comparison.

[@Flip4Crypt]

OH March of Burgeoning Life isnt entirely unplayable in the Edh, maybe in cEDH, but if someone else has a creature on the board like a dockside, you can tutor up your dockside by targeting theirs. Waayyy too situational, but in a Pod where people play similar creatures I could see this card leading to someone accidentally letting someone else grab a wincon

[@splitthesoulgaming7431]

Just a side note, sevvines reclamation does not target two things from the graveyard so would only be reduced by one, if its cast from the GY it creates a copy upon resolution

[@orsettomorbido]

YES, LOOOOOORE! Yeah, there were no hints of the Chip being an actual creature XD Maybe it is and we just don't know, or maybe mechanically WotC needed it to be XD

[@ttuck6768]

Super excited for the blue white control with a Gundam at the helm

[@chriswilliams2559]

Great job guys. Can I get your thoughts on new jin in tasigur neoform? I think it's a viable option

[@pe3der]

I definitely think it's worth a try since it's in neo/eldritch tasigur range. In that deck, how much better or worse than Nezehal or other targets it is will depend on the pod/your meta; sometimes draw is better, sometimes control & BOGO spells is better.

[@mimic_ssb]

I love these videos :)

[@Theorak]

I believe Swift Reconfiguration's ceiling is even higher not as removal but protection, turning your Elsha or Seedborn Muse into an artifact in response to Gilded Drake or spot removal is strong. Or keep your hatebears when a boardwipe happens, this is dangerous, March of Swirling Mist behaves likewise :D.

[@ssnow5516]

drumbellower is good in monowhite decks on giver/mother of runes. also a few other cards. i think it has value in stacks lists

[@123darkdeal]

-naut is used like a suffix indicating a person engaged in the navigation of a vehicle. So that vehicle being navigated is a Mecha.

[@WhoTFareyou2]

Swift reconfiguration also goes Infinite with synod artificer and a 3 mana mana rock like mana vault or Grim monolith.

[@alexanderrethmeier5917]

Otawara could be interesting in Urza polymorph so you can bounce one of your mana rocks to your hand if you don’t have one to play possibly. I’m not a 100% how useful that is because I don’t play the deck.

[@anthonybuck4864]

Since the floor is an Island, I don't see how this doesn't see play in a mono blue deck like Urza. Seems like an easy low risk include, like yeah Blood Moon hits it, but you're playing an Urza deck and probably already would have enough basics and artifacts to deal with that.

[@kamikazechicken8794]

I'm testing this in Orvar since he tends to bounce a lot of things.

[@alexanderrethmeier5917]

@@anthonybuck4864 That’s another good point too! I was thinking about how you might be ready to go off but don’t have a cheap artifact to start bouncing with hullbreacher horror or tide spout tyrant and it can also be used as protection for a winter orb.

[@ryanmoore5016]

The new land cycle seems pretty good on grolnak. It definitely sucks losing a removal spell but you at least can get a land drop off of them instead of just dumping them in your graveyard. The blue one is a little high costed for a non partner commander but boseiju is an autoinclude

[@schwa7728]

Does Experimental Synthesizer make the cut in Birgi as a one--cost "cantrip" of sorts? I'm not super familiar with the current lists, but I recall them playing quite a few cantrip spells already.

[@loorky2126]

your opponent can actually get Mystic Sanctuary when tutoring for Boseiju so you got to be careful but you could also use it on your own land to get other interaction or an combo piece back

[@pe3der]

Nah can't use it on your own land. It's already busted enough don't need to feed a mystic sanctuary loop too 😂

[@loorky2126]

@@pe3der oh ye your right

[@st34lthduck88]

I don’t think it’s been mentioned but the green and black channel lands are nuts in Gitrog Monster. My buddy plays the deck and he lost his mind when he saw these printed

[@noden1739]

I think nashi is actually really good like forget the ninjutsu part you can cast it turn one with a jeweled lotus and swing with it then vamp tutor in response and then get a peer and then combo off like it's not the best commander in cedh but I think it has crazy potential and obviously you would need two extra mana on board for that strategy had to add that before people come in here and try and roast me for not explaining all the way 😂

[@pe3der]

We may have undersold him a bit, but if the bar for a commander is "is it good with a jeweled lotus and 2 extra mana" we're underestimating a lot of commanders 😅

[@noden1739]

@@pe3der well that's one example to show you he has potential he has plenty more to offer I never said that that's all he does i think in this day and age when cedh players look at legendary creatures they can be a little quick to judge if it's not an infinite mana dump, a draw engine, or some busted partner commander I just feel like cedh is a little stale right now and a deck like nashi is a nice change of pace not to mention we need better mono colored commanders

[@CalebTheGhost26]

Drum Bellower is insane in Captain Sissay deck. The Green White version.

[@yvorpulaschkov2575]

I thought of the green March (march of burgeoning life) as a green version of mask of the mimic, which strangely enough can be good in cedh, because a lot of decks play the same broken value creatures such as dockside or thassa's oracle. the consideration of playing praetors grasp takes advantage of this already (similr but not same) when you play it in a deck. for a two mana creature you would have to pay 2 mana and exile a green card to get the same creature out of your own deck. imagine winning with thoracle consultation in response to an opponent trying to pull this off because of the new green marsh card.

[@dafickler]

Hey! I think a good video for you guys, since you're sponsored by Moxfield now, would be how to transfer over lists and collections from other apps like Delverlens and such. I'm interested in using Moxfield but I'm having issues and it's turning off from bothering to do it.

[@zero0grace]

I am 30 mins into this video and I just figured out your all actually in the same room...gosh I am dumb hahah I always thought you were in other places. Also where do I get those deck boxs? I love the window.

[@Velinastus]

swift reconfiguration can act as a counterspell.. If they go to remove your creature and its something like Thrasios where you don't care if its a creature or not you can make Thrasios not a creature meaning the removal spell has no valid target and fizzles..

[@jimmyburns411]

I really enjoyed the review! Unrelated Sidenote: does Dylan have a red dot on his camera lens? I keep seeing it on his shirt and tried for the longest to get it off my monitor.

[@82ndhaydini]

The restoration of eiganjo could return underworld breach to the field? I could see it as a back up if breach ends up in the yard somehow. Or return a stax piece like thalia, collector ouphe, etc etc

[@MattEvansable]

Dillon's little dog is so handsome!

[@ChadZeluff]

What are those deck boxes in the background that display the commander on the front? Very cool!

[@SlyNinja16]

What deck boxes are behind Cameron? I like how you can display the commander!

[@kristopherwatts9466]

I feel I need to mention(idk if anyone has yet 😅).. Kodama of the West Tree actually isn't a flavor fail! Many of the spirits of Kamigawa have started embracing change and merging with technology(If I remember right that's what reconfigure is supposed to represent)

[@ethan2670]

It's suuuuper niche, but Sokenzan is kind of cool in Kykar, since you can sac the spirits for mana later.

[@s4ad0wpi]

Pretty sure Cameron's pronunciation of Okiba (33:40) is the Scottish version of Kaiba!

[@abusedpoptart7511]

Idk if this is late, but containment construct combos with artificer's intuition which is why intuition has shot up in price :)

[@Benjamintheartteacher]

Reality Chip is going straight into my cEDH Circu Lantern Control deck

[@bagel6834]

i think y’all are sleeping on atsushi. that’s a versatile red deck that can win with an altar and nim deathmantle, and i think the deck looks solid so far. i’d implore you to test it :D

[@nazgir5343]

I feel you missed out on mentioning the crab. the creature itself is irrelevant, but its channel is 2U to mana leak, but it can also target activated or triggered abilities, which I feel might still be relevant in some decks.

[@bencampsall8563]

For Nashi, you can stack a Peer Into Abyss on top of your deck and storm off to win via Aetherflux Resovoir. That's at least how I'm playing it and has done ok with the few games I've played with it

[@orsettomorbido]

Containment Construct helps a bit with Sidisi AdN!