What's The Best Value Enduro Bike at the 2021 Field Test?

Join Mike Kazimer as he takes a deep dive into the five enduro bikes from this year's Field Test and finds out which model offers the best value
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[@germi1]

Strange that lifetime warranty is not taken into consideration when talking about value. I have broken 2 frames and having a good warranty is a very strong point when comparing bikes.

[@mrvwbug4423]

Santa Cruz does have that going for them, lifetime warranty on frame and wheels, and they are good about honoring it unlike certain other brands *cough*Evil*cough*

[@JJ_MTB_15]

@@mrvwbug4423 evil’s lifetime now just bought one, we’ll see if they back it up.

[@Kovacs-sf1hi]

@@mrvwbug4423 I’ve had an evil for a while and needed to warranty and needed parts and they’ve been amazing, everyone’s experience is diff I guess?

[@mtbohana]

Stop buying from bike manufacturers that sell frames that break 😉😁

[@germi1]

@@mtbohana actually on the contrary. When I broke the frame the customer service was super nice, I only had to send 1 picture by mail and after a week I have a brand new frame, updated model compared to my 5 year old broken frame and with a renewed 6year warranty. There’s nothing to complain about that. Hence my comment, do they offer a 10year at least or lifetime, all the better.

[@guyarnolddd6594]

Me watching this like I can afford any of them

[@juanpablomejia82]

Dead ass bruh 😭

[@raven2717]

Meh Too!

[@BaljinderSingh-zi8su]

😭😭😭

[@lheovince9260]

samee feels

[@andrewspanos8508]

Look at canyon or yt and if you want to spend more money you can look at the cube stereo 150 it has very good parts such us fox 36 factory grip 2 and a carbon frame at 3600 can't wait for mine to come

[@Projectnortheast]

I did a review on the 2021 Slash 9.8 XT and have to agree and say, it's ready to go right out of the box for whatever. Racing, park, local mountains, whatever it's a great bike and probably one of the best enduro bikes I've ridden. I also compare it to my Current Spesh enduro, and my previous Yeti SB150

[@Synysterjmz]

Vitus Escarpe and Smmet range start at £2k & £2.4k, both coming with a carbon front triangle as standard.

[@magruderable]

Value in the title and then shows bikes from $3500 to $9800. Makes me think once my Canyon spectral is done that I will be done. Breaks my heart.

[@crb22205]

How ya liking the Spectral?

[@lego354]

Yt capra/ jeffsy base are good value for money

[@cf6174]

@@crb22205 spectral is a great bike until you have do deal with canyon’s customer service

[@paradox963]

I love how people only refer to the value of a carbon frame as weight savings, and never factor in things like ride quality, resale value, or fatigue life in to it. I've ridden back to back carbon and aluminium bikes with everything but the frame material being the same and the carbon rides so much nicer, so to me that is a worthwhile upgrade.

[@abccanada6248]

Also carbon is much more easily repairable then alloy or even easier then (at least cheaper then) steel. Here in Vancouver my go to bike repair guy charges 250 cad per crack and will match the paint and unless you strip the paint back off the frame performs identical to new and looks even better cause the scratches in the area repaired are gone)

[@notparanoid912]

@@abccanada6248 ngl i wouldnt trust that frame anymore if it cracked because of delamination etc

[@abccanada6248]

@@notparanoid912 usually its cracks due to an impact or what ever. De lamination should be a warranty problem delamination absoloutely is not safe

[@DarkKnight0183]

The Propain Spindrift is just a dream, it has amazing parts❤❤

[@taeminpark7850]

I bought the Slash 8 2021 model and honestly it’s so nice. people say u need brake upgrades but i personally don’t feel the need. the code R do plenty

[@mrvwbug4423]

Code R is just Code RSC without the fancy bite point adjuster. SLX vs XT is the same, both stop about the same, SLX just lacks the bite point adjuster and is slightly heavier.

[@spuddo123]

Trance x 29 2 is bangerr value for a all round dualie Edit: if you chuck cushcore in the back you can use it as an enduro smasher too

[@craigmckinnon242]

Great review. I agree with you got 100% with the carbon frame and the carbon wheels are not worth it. Components are more valuable to make the bike better when you have a better fork and better brakes etc..

[@daveybmtb]

I was just having some fun with the spindrift online, I managed to spec a 190 zeb ultimate, a super deluxe rear shock with an axs dropper and derailleur for the same price as the Nukeproof Mega RS, about 5,400...

[@mrvwbug4423]

Sadly I don't believe North American buyers can use those customization options, just the few high end complete builds they export

[@daveybmtb]

@@mrvwbug4423 ah, that makes sense. They're still fantastic bikes though! And they're lookers

[@januhelj3796]

What about yt industries? Can you include yt in the next review

[@charliewilhelm4982]

YESSS PLEASE

[@graysonadams2485]

Well they don't have any new bikes this year, but I was thinking that too. They would blow the value comp out of the water.

[@dabbking]

@@graysonadams2485 don’t forget about commencal great value.

[@dabbking]

@@Jacob99174 they should pay me! Haha I just like the commencal meta I had more than Santa Cruz high tower or the Bronson.

[@jimbo4203]

Need to do a video on the best bike you can actually get ! Since you can't get any

[@knzmotorcrossyo5453]

I just bought the 2021 giant reign sx with fox 38 forks and the fox dhx2 rear coil and it all cost 6kNZD brand new very cheap for the suspension

[@m1mars]

waiting to order my RAAW Madonna V2

[@cooperdouglas3747]

What happened to the Rocky Mountain a50 and c50 build options! I thought they had a pretty good part spec for the price especially the a50

[@danielvillada8866]

Hey have them the best deal they have is a70

[@jimbo9454]

Where’s the canyon torque?!

[@BerserkerNick]

the slash is probably my favorite on this list but I've always had a soft spot for Trek

[@abccanada6248]

Treks have a soft spot for you as well. Usually the 2 cracks on the chainstays

[@armankiarmankii]

@@abccanada6248 🤣🤣💀

[@flippy66]

@@abccanada6248 🤡

[@zxtenn]

I have a 2019 Instinct BC carbon 90 that i bought as a leftover and saved 2500.00 off the 6100.00 list. With the savings i got carbon wheels, bars Selle San Marco seat with carbon rails saving 100 grams and just got the 10-52 XO, that saved me 1/2 pound, shifts like butter and yes i can feel the improvement from the 52 over the 50 and gotta love at looking at a carbon crank. 300 gram Stamp 11 pedals which are LIGHT, have amazing grip and come with extra pins so worth the initial cost, my cheaper Shimano pedals i had on my Spectral were 500 grams, many times also easier to sell the top end parts too so i didn't mind spending the extra money for the Stamp 11's. Loving my Instinct carbon 90 BC

[@darrinkulyk9560]

Excellent 😎 I Bought a 2019 CF Warden With 300km on it for $3500 . Never Seen Black Till Me 😎

[@zxtenn]

@@darrinkulyk9560 I sold VERY soon after i wrote this, it sold in about 2 days. I placed the ad of a Friday and was sold Sat. and paid for and picked up Monday morning.

[@drexx3646]

What about the '21 Commencal Meta AM? Got mine for $3200 shipped to my door. Zeb up front and RS deluxe select + in the rear. Same drive-train as the SC Nomad. This bike is nutty. Takes anything i can throw at it here in the Adirondacks. For everyone looking for *BEST VALUE*, check out Commencal if you haven't already. Same spec as $4k+ enduros for $3200. Can't beat that!

[@rubindublone5932]

Propains value is probably the best the 2,600€ version comes with a gx, but u should add a dropper for around 150-200€

[@chopiesel]

I truly think the focus Sam is the best value for money

[@lopon12]

Carbon makes sense on xc whippets, but for enduro sleds built for punishment I think aluminum has to be the sensible choice.

[@Hawcz0r]

How so? Carbon is stronger

[@lopon12]

@@Hawcz0r one crash could be the end of your race on a carbon bike, aluminum might be able to take you home with a few dents

[@Hawcz0r]

@@lopon12 You are saying that carbon is weaker than aluminium? Because that is not true. If it were, people wouldn't use it for downhill.

[@lopon12]

@@Hawcz0r this video isn't downhill its enduro, multiple runs in one day.

[@Hawcz0r]

@@lopon12 I'm not too into EWS, but googling "ews carbon bike" gives me plenty results saying that carbon bikes are used in enduro races. I think I will trust the industry and thousands of others before some random youtube comment about carbon being weak.

[@venivelovici]

Funny to see that Spindrift set up UK/Moto style.

[@radbradmtb6915]

Did we totally forget about the insane value of a YT Capra? Or Commencal or Canyon?

[@corail53]

Surprised Commencal isn't on here but YT and Canyon aren't all that great of deals when you account for getting it over to north america plus their huge wait times because they got hit hard by supply chain issues and overall bad customer service for warranty.

[@simonb2636]

Quick question. Do you test the rocky mountain slayer again? Would be definetly be nice

[@garyli520]

you did not just ut SantaCruz in the value section

[@beni2270]

YT capra Shred/Cf pro

[@midlifesendermtb2178]

In Australia the Trex Slash 9.8 is $8500.

[@MichaelAverycarhauler1969]

Awesome. Great info.

[@anthonycphillips2430]

no nukeproof or ibis??

[@JoeJoe-C137]

"Includes paid promotion" first bike Santa Cruz nomad 🙄 tells you everything you need to no about this "field test" jokers..

[@pacltatl]

polygon N9 is the best that you can find out there for restricted budget

[@MillerRL96]

The Norco shore is most appealing to me here. None of these bikes are quiver killers and just add ons. At that price the shore would just be my bike park bike and never replace a trail bike for me

[@brianbidelman9579]

Hi there, the bike is rady to ride?

[@noelmarte2835]

What about the marin alpine trail. Are they any goig?

[@JohnnyBawlz.]

Where's the 2021 Commencal Meta AM29? That is a best bang for your buck enduro bike!

[@kndvds1492]

Polygon N9 Mostly XT $3099.

[@pangtsr]

The carbon frames of Propane are usually 2 pounds less than the Aluminum equivalent. And the cost is not 1000 more. So I'd go with carbon. In Europe you can get a very VERY decent spec (Fox 38 Kashima factory fork & DH2 shock) Propain Spindrift, for less than 5k. At that money, this bike is a bargain.

[@catalystJJ]

You should look at marin alpine trail carbon 2. It's full on enduro. $4099.

[@jessiekruse7627]

Hahahahah Robot noises . If your doing a lot climbing for laps. Would you recommend the new altitude? I’m on a 2015 Altitude and it climbs unreal but I’ve outgrown the descending .

[@pietrociciliano6414]

Im in italy and for 3529€ i can get a propain tyee with a carbon frame, fox 36 fork, fox float x2, fox transger kashima 175mm dropper post and sram gx drivetrain

[@gravelpit4201]

I dont get it The deore brakes have the same ergonomics as the slxs amd xts and feel the same The slx and xts just have more options to adjust and have lighter materials

[@d_rok_n5860]

2021 nukeproof mega pro alloy is the best value enduro bike

[@offroadrepairman]

Hahaha, “buy an aluminum bike” says the guy complaining about how heavy the shore is. Maybe a full review of Rocky Mountain aluminum model should come next. For me, I’m gonna spend all my money getting exactly what I think I want, cost no concern. I saved a bunch of money once, after getting bike to work well it cost a grand more than if I bought a custom build from the beginning.

[@isaacd7243]

I don't see the Giant Reign in your list...

[@lossantoscity3249]

man id rather have the latest Chromag rims than a $2000 carbon rims. Chromag are just way more heavy hitter.

[@isaks3243]

my maximum limit to spend on a bike is roughly $3600

[@richardwarmington5394]

*Vitus has entered the chat*

[@LuLeBe]

Yeah those are really cheap. I on the other hand didn't cheap out and invested a full 2500€ into my dream bike xD Seriously, these videos are always so funny, I'd expect the people that pay that much to actually know what frame materials they want etc. If you need to ask someone else whether you need a carbon frame on a $6000 bike, maybe don't get a $6k bike? :D

[@nic.skerry9910]

All these are overpriced in AUD.

[@cayne1]

Everything is overpriced in aus

[@RideBikes_Walkplaces]

A 2nd hand one

[@masseran]

YT Capra?! Carbon frame, 180mm for 3500$

[@scorpiononaire]

Best value? I just love how they completely ignore the fact you can get something like a commencal clash, YT capra, Canyon Torque or atleast a couple of other brands which are actually good value and around 1k cheaper.

[@lord_timpa4902]

hi

[@Cookboy3857]

Nice bike

[@SJ-fj3jp]

I been riding years and downhill enduro all that crap ride whatever you best with I've bought them all best for me is xc 29er Cannondale FSI beast anything chicks at it

[@mountaingoat2866]

these bikes are sexy as fuck but completely unfeasible for so many people. I know people that watch these bike reviews and are so discouraged because of these prices. These bikes are mostly bought by dentist. Can you guys please make a review of bikes that coast less than 3000? there are bikes that are 3000 and less and shred hard a fuck. PLEASE. just trying to get more ppl interested in the beautiful sport ya know

[@oroorgerxdxdxd]

Best value enduro bike is commencal clash lmao

[@WhaleRidesMTB]

Oh I don't have the facilities for that big man

[@mikaa1202]

Hahaha I paid 6k for the Spindrift in Germany😂

[@donovanhendrix9857]

wtf these bikes are terrible deals my specialized status comes with an nx drivetrain and code r brakes at $2600 instead of $3500

[@jeffrichards1537]

I wouldn't pay 10 grand for a bike unless its at least 450cc lol.

[@SloMoShort]

Bikes are too expensive now and unjustifiable. They are mostly using the same components and frames are made from carbon or aluminium like other manufacturers. The manufacturers need to be transparent on the reason for their pricing.

[@BillSheley]

Again... no mention of any Canyon products. Whats up with this. I just bought the 2021 Strive, full carbon frame, all XT, Fox 36... for $4600. I feel like Pinkbike is boycotting Canyon as they ignored thee Spectral in their trailbike review acouple days ago.

[@pinkbike]

We reviewed the new Spectral at the beginning of December: www.pinkbike.com/news/review-2021-canyon-spectral-29-cf-80.html. That bike came out a little too late to be included in this round of Field Tests.

[@ryanmakarski8353]

The jittery melody daily march because ravioli surgically tug after a attractive shelf. giddy, normal market

[@squidlips6661]

This hole enduro FAD of 10 000 dollars US bikes is a fucking JOKE. I make over 150 000.00 dollars a year and I will never spend this type of money even if I could. I have a 951 FRO decked out with FOX 40 and crank brothers wheels, saint crank, brakes, etc. etc. that I built for 10 000, 10 years ago and I would never change my beautiful beats not even for a bike that weights almost the same as my Intense and I can.... can is a big word go up a hill. What ever this is the subject of this post. The bike company’s and all the people that talk about these overpriced bikes are a fucking JOKE. 99% of all weekend warriors will never use these bikes to their full potential and sure event the Pinkbike also. This FAD is a joke. The fragile carbon fiber < plastic frames> is a fucking Joke. The bike industry must not forget that the little people are ones that purchase these bikes not the high end sponsored millionaire Aaron Gwin etc. The industry is a joke and I hope I don’t need to build a new bike soon because I will go back to a simpler sport that is mountain running and hiking. Pinkbike you should be one of the little people that puts pressure on the megalomaniac companies that production this F1 bukes for the millionaire crowds. THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE.

[@edfody5369]

Best value - really ???? You guys need to reset your reality.

[@msahrifarahman9197]

Capitalism.at its best

[@a.g.9360]

Worst value bikes not best, overpriced stuff

[@lukassmith9185]

Im watching this knowing that all these are too ex for me

[@xXQuickTomXx]

"Value bikes" starts with a bike of almost 5k😅

[@guywiththepanzerhausf6478]

I thought this is a "great value bikes" video not an expensive af bikes video

[@tonyparkin3379]

Insane prices really. Canyon and yt can't fill the gap fast enough.

[@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged]

Yea, I think all successful bike companies will go direct to consumer over the next several years. The ones that don't won't be successful.

[@tonyparkin3379]

@@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged I heard canyon looking for investors to help them expand further.

[@MK4vDubbin]

@@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged What makes you think that? Companies like Specialized and Santa Cruz are still absolutely crushing YT in market share. What would be their incentive to go direct?

[@moncier77]

I have a canyon and the price and bang for your buck is there! You couldn’t touch my bike with the components I have in it under 4K with other brands.

[@angelrios3504]

@@moncier77 same here with my canyon torque

[@jan_bsk3087]

here in Germany, you can get a Carbon Spindrift with flow mk3 wheels, rs ultimate (zen and super deluxe coil) suspension, gx drivetrain, chain guide and so on for roughly 4000€ which is equal to 5000 USD. This is crazy value! There is no way we could get a Trek, Santa Cruz or any of the tested bikes with similar spec for 4000€

[@900schutter]

was looking at propain myself for a possible next bike. since i'm in belgium, propain looks more and more appealing.

[@simppe75]

Yep. For Europeans, the Spindrift (and all other Propain bikes) is extremely good bang for the buck.

[@martincantwell2557]

There unbeatable value, my old spindrift came with factory fox 36, cane creek db coil,mt7 brakes, stans flow wheels, bike yoke dropper, and gx drivetrain for €3300. Nothing else came close for that spec. I spent a bit more on the new spindrift but still less than 4k for a really high spec'd machine

[@papawheelie8657]

@@900schutter Look at Vitus bikes. In my opinion these bikes are the best value and have great components. They are also a French brand so you would not have much trouble getting these bikes to Belgium.

[@HansPeter-pm1gq]

@@papawheelie8657 thought vitus was British?

[@jisezer]

PB: "Let's look at the best value bikes." Also PB: "Okay the base model sucks, but here's the $6500 fully carbon one"

[@niklazz7037]

lol, when a $3500 sucks and guy tells you'd need upgrade soon --- 0.o

[@aidankieffer]

Hehe sounds funny hearing my name yelled out so politely

[@AidanKiely]

Relatable 😂

[@aidankatowong]

whats up aidans

[@aidenfarmer1371]

Y’all spell your name different but i want in on this gang

[@danielburris4096]

Love the honesty when talking about saving money vs weight on carbon frames. I never thought it was worth 1000 dollars to save 1.5 lbs on a bike. I guess if you’re a pro racer with sponsors, a 10,000 dollar bike is reasonable. But I have a 1,300 dollar hard tail that is great.

[@mocheen4837]

I guess it is all relative. My friend makes $500,000 per year and rides on $5,000 road bikes and mountain bikes. He also collects muscle cars.

[@jamesinsteamboat]

YT Capra! 180mm travel, Carbon frame, Fox 36 for $3200

[@kutlay1988]

if you can wait 2 centuries for delivery :D I am in love with my AL Capra

[@jamesinsteamboat]

@@kutlay1988 haha, I guess I had good timing: ordered mine in Feb and it showed up in March. It does 3,000 foot climbs just fine and has made me much more confident on the gnarly stuff

[@lego354]

If you can wait there is no other bike with such value I'm getting the base one

[@tpavan]

Got the Capra Blaze, 4k and what you get for the money is just impossible to compare with anything else available! Fuck you and your 9k bike, LOL!!

[@cf6174]

But its a YT

[@kiltymacbagpipe]

I like to see you guys run a similar test but on value oriented bikes/brands like the direct to consumer options.

[@tpavan]

I agree, from all these videos seems like everybody has 10 grands to casually spare for a bicycle!

[@sylvanmw]

I already know its gotta be the spindrift

[@mrvwbug4423]

Only in Europe, where their full options are available. Otherwise the Altitude has some decent bang for buck aluminum builds.

[@ingosche2273]

Would love to see some real reviews of the lower priced bikes

[@dabbking]

Basically the same but lower quality components. Just go with commencal they have the best value for the price.

[@mrvwbug4423]

They did a second field test this spring for budget bikes and a separate one for XC bikes. I would expect the same for 2021

[@n00bstacle]

I'm pretty sure it's harder for them to review lower spec bikes as the companies want them to show off the best they have to offer and don't want people to judge based of components as much

[@huntermcpherson8399]

If you’re serious about enduro racing, who would buy cheap over fast?

[@dabbking]

@@huntermcpherson8399 some one without a lot of money.

[@AmericanRustWorker3369]

I love mtb but this is a rich mans sport , if I’m gonna spend $3k on a bike I’d buy a dirt bike

[@simppe75]

The Propain Sprindrift is the easy choice from a value standpoint for Europeans. This is the base model (with a dropper) and you can upgrade everything individually. 2750€ Alu frame (you can choose 27,5"/Mullet/29") 3 different frame colors + 10 different trim colors to choose from ZEB R fork Super Deluxe Select R Coil shock (you get to choose the right spring, so no need to buy the right springrate after you have bought the bike) GX Eagle Sram G2 R brakes 3 different tire options

[@josephkinnear5802]

Yes 👍 I paid €2950 with super deluxe coil, and zeb select plus, and delivery. I will add a dropper myself. But still crazy cheap for that spec bike, can't wait to ride it

[@OvermarsGaming]

"Best Value"

[@kondawg7424]

This is what I needed after crying after I finished watching community :')

[@RideAlongside]

The Rocky A30 sure looks good compared to the others. Still $3.5k and doesn’t have the brakes nor drivetrain that I would want however. I think it’s great for most riders out there looking for this type of rig however.

[@rewind10z]

I bought the A50 for 4000€ in germany... not sure if it isn't available in NA or why it wasn't mentioned. But it comes with 36/DPX2 Performance, XT brakes, XT/SLX drivetrain. Pretty nice spec IMO.

[@lonohst]

The A50 is available here got mine two weeks ago. Again not sure why it wasn't mentioned either.

[@mrvwbug4423]

A50 is available in north america, it goes up to SLX drivetrain and brakes, but fork only goes to Fox 36 Perf, which is just a sidegrade from the Z1, shock remains the same. The A30 is more of an upgrade platform, G2G out of the box, but you will probably want to make some upgrades after the first season. The A50 should've gone to Fox 36 or 38 Perf elite fork and DPX2 perf elite shock imho, or RS Zeb/super deluxe ultimate.

[@lonohst]

A50 has an XT derailleur and brakes only the shifter and cassette are SLX. You are correct on the fork.

[@laurentp89]

I agree with everything Mike said, however as a bigger guy, 191cm-100kgs, I did feel a difference in stiffness going from a XXL AL Capra to a CF. Not a life-changing difference, but I now think of the difference between a carbon and alloy frame in terms of stiffness rather than weight.

[@garyli520]

yeah, i guess spending 5000 dollars on a bike is pretty value

[@cameronball3998]

Yeah none of these bikes are in my budget, I’m looking for sub $3k USD. I don’t know if I’d consider these “value” haha

[@jebronlames9061]

Welp ima stay here with my 450 dollar giant atx 🥲

[@mountainsteward7776]

Polygon n7 is $2600 and rips.

[@niklazz7037]

My parents bought me a Trek when I was like 16yo - I knew how much it cost (400-500 USD) if I recall correctly. I also went to a shop not long ago, on my late 30's and saw an awesome looking bike. I ask the seller, how much is this worth and he says about $6,000USD --- I wen't out laughing out the door. Now I see this videos of people talking about 8k and 10k bikes and I wonder --- when did a mountain bike start costing the same an more than a 2stroke or 4stroke motocross bike or even speed bike. I guess I am not qualified to see the high value on this bikes, just perplexed at the fact that if you want to get into Enduro Bicycles (yes Bicycles) I need to spend the same I would for a motor bike and that is just absurd to me, sure many enthusiast would disagree but this is just waaay too much for a steel frame and couple of dampers.

[@huntii]

I am thinking the same thing. What makes a bike worth $6000 ?

[@itr0863]

Agreed. I felt the same way when I went to my local bike shop looking for an all mountain/Enduro bike. Cost as much as my Yamaha waverunner lol.

[@urg0nnah8me]

You said this was the best value enduro field test. I'm still waiting to see a bike worth the money. This industry has lost it's damn mind! I always build my own bikes to try to save where I can because I don't feel like any bike, off any shelf is worth the asking price. I just built a carbon Knolly Warden, but I only ended up with the carbon version because of a delay in the frame I ordered...and I got a fat discount. Marzocchi bomber cr rear shock, NOS Marzocchi 350 R fork, bontrager line 30 wheels with the 108 poe upgrade, box components 9 speed drivetrain, SLX cranks, SLX 7120 brakes, chromag bars, stem and pedals, PNW loam dropper...I'm STILL in this thing for over $4k, but at least it's set up how I want. I could have saved money, sure, if I wanted to run raceface stuff, cheaper brakes...but then I could have just bought one of the "budget" bikes everyone else has.

[@notparanoid912]

You should checkout the propainsite its fully customizible and the allubikes have a really nice vallue (2ndbest rochock suspension with mt7 brakes and gxeagel for 3500€)

[@nobennet1037]

cube stereo 170 race?!

[@camwells9726]

For budget enduro bikes , not sure why you would bother with carbon for what is probably not a race bike but a weekend fun bike

[@lukebrosnan8679]

Ha, Budget! money doesn't grow on trees.

[@mrvwbug4423]

The RM Altitude A30 is a decent deal, great upgrade platform (DPX2 shock at that level is good, I believe the Z1 fork can also take a Grip 2 upgrade kit), but the one that still sticks out but didn't make the field test is the Ibis Ripmo AF Deore build, mostly for the DVO suspension which was upgraded for 2021 with the Onyx SC fork over the diamond. Trek is no surprise, their builds are always bad on value, the Slash is no exception.

[@MarcusNesbitt4]

I think you need to be looking at the £2000 to £3500 price bracket (or equivalent in the US). Things like the Canyon Torque 5 or 6, Saracen Ariel 80, and Vitus Sommet CR

[@peytonrobinson3819]

Do you think the nomad is a better climber than the slash

[@SmokinJoe1]

These bikes are made for downhill

[@peytonrobinson3819]

@@SmokinJoe1 I know but I’m trying to decided between the two and I want to know which one is the better climber

[@SmokinJoe1]

@@peytonrobinson3819 Slash is better than the new Nomad 5 👍 Overall, the Slash is a capable climber and will easily get you to the top of every trailhead.

[@Mika.Graesch]

The Spindrift has an very good value in Europe where you basically can make a dream build and only pay a lot of money for the Parts you want