What's The Strongest Attack in Ocarina of Time?

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@thomaswawrzyniak118
@thomaswawrzyniak118 5 ай бұрын
1:18 the rumor is, one of the devs tried to kill a spider in their office with a hammer, and kept failing miserably. They programed the immunity into the game simply as a joke
@trunkit8749
@trunkit8749 5 ай бұрын
The dev was also jumping around, which is why the jump attack doesn’t hurt it.
@BonnePp
@BonnePp 5 ай бұрын
Ok but the fact that an glitch causes you to attack with nothing on your hand but still applies all the status effects of the game including 2 BETA ABILITIES IS INSANE
@Mordecai02
@Mordecai02 5 ай бұрын
Link's double elbow drop of DOOM! Edit: also, it totals up to _4_ beta abilities! :O Ice Medallion, Shadow Arrows, and two we don't even know _what_ they were gonna be!
@insentia8424
@insentia8424 5 ай бұрын
Considering we are working with garbage data, and they had to conserve memory on consoles, it's probably a number and flags bit manipulated into one single number. So it reads the garbage in the damage bits as damage, and every other bit set as a true for a damage type. *probably*, I don't know how it's actually coded, mind you, but this is very easy and for processors very quick way to compress and decompress data and would cause exactly what's happening here if fed a randomish number.
@ninjaguyYT
@ninjaguyYT 4 ай бұрын
​@@Mordecai02 probably light and earth (since have wind, fire and I think ice and electric).
@SullySadface
@SullySadface 4 ай бұрын
​@@ninjaguyYTIIRC the medallions were all basically spells at one point, so that kinda jives
@Tezomondo
@Tezomondo 5 ай бұрын
Great video! With the hammer jump attacks, I'm sure I watched another video where it explains that one of the developers tried to kill a spider in the office by jumping around with a hammer (I think), missing and completely failing to kill it, so one of the other team coded this in as they thought it was funny. I don't think any type of spider in the game can be killed by a hammer jump attack for this reason!
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
I'd never heard this before but a couple people have mentioned it to me now since this video. I really hope it's true, it's much funnier than a random damage table typo.
@LuigiXHero
@LuigiXHero 5 ай бұрын
I hope this is true because that's incredible
@ebgbees
@ebgbees 5 ай бұрын
That would explain my failed attempts at killing gold skulltulas with hammer-stored power crouch stabs in randomizers
@RTU130
@RTU130 5 ай бұрын
Ye
@JackBz
@JackBz 4 ай бұрын
Big citation needed
@FrameRot
@FrameRot 4 ай бұрын
The most powerful attack is emotional damage, when Link is left all alone in the end.
@whatsoup
@whatsoup 5 ай бұрын
mmmm yes STATS
@ZippydaSquirl
@ZippydaSquirl 5 ай бұрын
WE LOVE NUMBERS
@Roto3
@Roto3 5 ай бұрын
I LOVE DEFEATING THE ENEMY AND GETTING STRONGER!!!! 😈😈😈
@WhiteSnap
@WhiteSnap 4 ай бұрын
Come back when your stats are a little, mmmm, HIGHER!
@sum-dum_nerd
@sum-dum_nerd 4 ай бұрын
hammer go bonk
@Wounded_Asclepius
@Wounded_Asclepius 4 ай бұрын
NUMBER GO UP!!!!!
@ShankMods
@ShankMods 5 ай бұрын
This was extremely interesting, well explained, and well spoken. Your writing, delivery, and pacing were excellent. Great video.
@AstralLovelace
@AstralLovelace 5 ай бұрын
The strongest thing in Hyrule is backshots to a furry
@henrydupuis5648
@henrydupuis5648 5 ай бұрын
Lmfao!😭😆
@Boooo
@Boooo 5 ай бұрын
thats how you kill a furry in real life too
@jeanpitre5789
@jeanpitre5789 5 ай бұрын
Why you gotta say it like that
@DarkNia64
@DarkNia64 5 ай бұрын
Bruh
@Spore_Money
@Spore_Money 5 ай бұрын
Yessirrr
@SeedyZ
@SeedyZ 5 ай бұрын
I never knew empty jumpslash was a thing! I thought it was just QPA that gave that glitched damage value.
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
It's a super common misconception since everyone just calls it QPA, but QPA is just an ingredient in one of the ways of getting empty jumpslash. You do QPA, then break your stick so that it immediately disappears before the grounded part of the jumpslash (whereas without QPA, it wouldn't immediately disappear). But there are other ways of getting empty jumpslash also, like jumpslash with a burning deku stick RIGHT before it burns out, so that it's gone by the time you land.
@MetroAndroid
@MetroAndroid 5 ай бұрын
@@dannyb21892 It's crazy that all it would've taken to discover it in the past 25 years was someone jump-attacking with a burning deku stick right as it disappears, then using crouch-stab on anything it interacts with in a unique way.
@Caidren
@Caidren 5 ай бұрын
@@MetroAndroid just getting glitched damage was discovered a while ago tbf, this is the first video on it i know of (with Blank A): kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYu1i2x_oa2Kp5o
@EltaleLibrarian
@EltaleLibrarian 5 ай бұрын
If you look at the structure of the damage values in code, the hammer jump slash is not only at the bottom, suggesting it was added last, possibly after the skulltula was finished, but it is in a sea of removed values, so it may have been missed.
@Cronoistight
@Cronoistight 5 ай бұрын
You have a knack for properly mixing knowledge and presentation. I consider myself pretty OOT/MM versed, but the way you format your videos felt like watching a great refresher course. I also love how you properly touch on math.
@iNinBreak
@iNinBreak 5 ай бұрын
8:30 so youre telling me i have been doing 32 dmg to those doggos all this time (i have been hitting their tail with well placed biggoron jumpslashes)
@Mystical367
@Mystical367 5 ай бұрын
💀
@swagmiredoesall
@swagmiredoesall 4 ай бұрын
There's a chance you could've been doing 64 as well
@CWCvilleCop
@CWCvilleCop 5 ай бұрын
How did you know that this is the video I've wanted to watch for my entire life?
@Eckster
@Eckster 5 ай бұрын
5:35 Gotta love bitfields
@Rexis102
@Rexis102 5 ай бұрын
6:39 possible theory, perhaps Link was intended to use the Iron Knuckles’ weapons against them. Would make sense why only Iron Knuckles are affected by it since those rooms would be the only place Link could use those weapons.
@homerman76
@homerman76 5 ай бұрын
There is a rumor that that was intended to be the case and that is why we have the ability to do so in Windwaker
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 4 ай бұрын
Crushing weapon better vs armored foe right
@TheBreadPirate
@TheBreadPirate 5 ай бұрын
Wow! I had no idea butt attacks were so powerful.
@RenegadeGamer89
@RenegadeGamer89 5 ай бұрын
All this time I thought you could only kill Wolfos by hitting them in the back.
@raydespoir
@raydespoir 5 ай бұрын
Its a fair assumption, given how many hits they take compared to every other enemy. Plus navi hints at you to attack from behind so one would rarely hit all 8 times.
@RenegadeGamer89
@RenegadeGamer89 5 ай бұрын
@@raydespoir right. I just assumed he they were invulnerable to everything else
@Jotari
@Jotari 5 ай бұрын
@@raydespoir They do visibly take damage though.
@raydespoir
@raydespoir 5 ай бұрын
@@Jotari Yes but they don't die unless you hit them so many times. Its similar to the large deku baba. If you hit their head to make them straighten up, then a second follow up hit will instantly kill them. But if you wait for their head to come back down they can take more damage. I'm not even sure if you can kill them with their head down lol, I cant remember doing it.
@Jotari
@Jotari 5 ай бұрын
@@raydespoir Yes, you can. If you kill them without them going erect then you'll likely get Deku Nuts, otherwise they drop Deky Sticks.
@Rain_Ruru
@Rain_Ruru 3 ай бұрын
That random zoomed in iron knuckle face around 2:45 actually jumpscared me LMAO
@grek543210
@grek543210 4 ай бұрын
7:44 he should have stayed flat is hilarious 😂
@devonm042690
@devonm042690 5 ай бұрын
Since this topic of damage included weaknesses and resistances, it's applicable to state here that the Flare Dancer's weakness/resistance table is weird. Even just looking at swords, it's weak to Master Sword jump slashes and resistant to Biggoron's Sword jump slashes. A single Master Sword jump slash is enough to advance a Flare Dancer to its next phase (or defeat it if it's on green), but a Biggoron's Sword jump slash does the same amount of damage to it as a standard slash.
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
Yea it's a weird example, it actually shares it's damage table with Ganon, which is why it appears to be resistant to everything but master sword
@devonm042690
@devonm042690 2 ай бұрын
@@dannyb21892 ...That can't be right. It takes four normal attacks from the Master Sword to advance the fight a stage, but two attacks from Biggoron's Sword.
@Soulintent95
@Soulintent95 5 ай бұрын
That thumbnail made me just wanna take a second to appreciate how the kokiri sword is just the old master sword. Especially in smash melee where it was longer. That is the exact earlier design of the master sword.
@demonsamongstmen562
@demonsamongstmen562 3 ай бұрын
3:35 that crouch stab information is so incredibly useful, I can't wait to play through lozoat again
@demonsamongstmen562
@demonsamongstmen562 3 ай бұрын
4:05 this glitch is nuts holy moly
@kat_lynx
@kat_lynx 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if the value Iron Knuckles are weak to is supposed to be the value of unused Spirit Arrow/Soul Arrow
@homerman76
@homerman76 5 ай бұрын
They're one of the few enemies unique to the Spirit temple, so I wouldn't be surprised 🤔
@damiencouturee6240
@damiencouturee6240 5 ай бұрын
The fact that the wolfos takes 4x damage from the back is just begging for a doggy style joke
@Retroist2024
@Retroist2024 5 ай бұрын
Butt of the joke
@teamdoghouse82880
@teamdoghouse82880 5 ай бұрын
Gettin the old spokes broke. Havin that back blowed out!
@BaconHoodie
@BaconHoodie 5 ай бұрын
Wolfos Backshot
@EdMun-g6g
@EdMun-g6g 5 ай бұрын
😂
@fuseteam
@fuseteam 4 ай бұрын
well it's a doggy with style
@SubOxyde
@SubOxyde 5 ай бұрын
What a sick video! Reminds me of Decinos Doom videos but for Zelda. Two of my absolute favorite games growing up. Bravo 👏
@Steamuch
@Steamuch 5 ай бұрын
I have another glitch to share: Whenever Daniel Baamonde gets excited, his voice takes up properties of Ceave Gaming's one.
@ArloMathis
@ArloMathis 5 ай бұрын
Holy Fuzzy!
@ShadowsWrath4
@ShadowsWrath4 5 ай бұрын
"Crazy Butt Multiplier" That's a new one, lol.
@ShadowsWrath4
@ShadowsWrath4 5 ай бұрын
Seriously, I always assumed it was because I was slicing the Wolfos' spine in half vertically that it was a one hit kill. I never did a horizontal slice to it when it turned around. Didn't stop me from exploiting it!~
@Chris-gx1ei
@Chris-gx1ei 5 ай бұрын
considering that the Master Sword deals 2 damage in OoT (which means 1 damage is equal to 15 in BotW), this means that the highest Damage possible you can do here would be equal to 960 Damage in BotW
@star0chris
@star0chris 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video Danny, I always love to know random stuff like this in Zelda games and the strongest attack in the game is pretty cool lol Keep up the great work!
@Museko
@Museko 4 ай бұрын
Wow, I did not lnow about that Wolfos weak point. I was wondering why in Majora's Mask, I one-shot a Wolfos once by punching it in the back as Goron Link. I suspected attacks from behind could do more damage but only did it once.
@Centinym
@Centinym 4 ай бұрын
The psychological damage that causes us to ponder questions like these decades later
@Sonnance
@Sonnance 5 ай бұрын
Clearly the most powerful attack was that one Iron Knuckle slash that killed my friend twice in a single hit. Dunno how, but it killed him, he revived with a fairy, and his hearts kept draining after. Never saw that happen before or since, so I assume that slash was personal.
@eessppeenn001
@eessppeenn001 5 ай бұрын
Emotional Damage!
@Sauraen
@Sauraen 5 ай бұрын
I did a 3 heart run many years ago, got hit by Volvagia, and that hit drained two fairies.
@homerman76
@homerman76 5 ай бұрын
​@@Sauraenwhich is weird since damage isn't usually supposed to have a carry over like that, but I know what you're saying is true because I've personally seen this glitch before as well 🤔
@RyouShi98
@RyouShi98 4 ай бұрын
The strongest single damage attacks are Iron Knuckle's and Ganon's Axes/Swords, dealing 4 hearts. The strongest direct damage is Ganondorf's giant energy blast, dealing 5 hearts, one for each ball. The highest overall is Koume's fire, dealing 5 1/4 hearts if you stay in the AOE field the whole time. Honorable mentions to Phantom Ganon's spear dealing a surprising 3 hearts that early in the game and Redeads/Gibdo dealing technically infinite damage if you don't mash out.
@xboxgamer8381
@xboxgamer8381 5 ай бұрын
2:00 124? Like, plainrock124?
@GavinAstraWolf
@GavinAstraWolf 5 ай бұрын
8:07 Ah ok, now you have my attention. lol
@delinquenter
@delinquenter 4 ай бұрын
(fires up the flamethrower)
@uncannyeeveestar
@uncannyeeveestar 5 ай бұрын
I love how this ends with vaporizing wolfos
@Rokushi_ftw
@Rokushi_ftw 5 ай бұрын
2:02 The lit Deku Stick deals 4 as well
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
That isn't a different weapon though, being lit has no effect on damage at all. It still does 2 on slash and 4 on jumpslash while lit.
@ClaytonJonesImages
@ClaytonJonesImages 4 ай бұрын
"butt multiplier" lol
@psychedelicartistry
@psychedelicartistry 5 ай бұрын
At 8 min I had no idea that that was why I would randomly kill those Wolfos enemies in a single strike! Very interesting.
@Emogeta
@Emogeta 5 ай бұрын
Whats the damage value of a broken deku stick? You can get one by attacking the electric squares monsters in Jabu Jabu or interrupting link when he throws it away.
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
@@Emogeta a broken deku stick is the same as regular deku stick.
@FourthRoot
@FourthRoot 4 ай бұрын
Broken deku sticks can also be wielded by interrupting the put away action with damage right after breaking it.
@Jungle_Twist
@Jungle_Twist 5 ай бұрын
Since i was a kid, ive realized the jumped attack does double damage. But i NEVER KNEW about crouch stabs taking the damage of the last melee attack you did. Thats fucking wild. Im gonna use that everytime i play now
@homerman76
@homerman76 5 ай бұрын
Regarding the Iron Knuckle being especially susceptible to the glitch damage; there is a rumor that the ability to pick up enemy weapons Toon Link receives in Windwaker was something that Link was supposed to be able to do against the Iron Knuckle with their axe. Since the Iron Knuckle would have been the target for this programming, the Iron Knuckle is likely susceptible due to actually being programmed to take damage from the unused items that are mixed in with everything. That would be me theory on why anyways 🤔
@Boxoy101
@Boxoy101 5 ай бұрын
This was so cool, and interesting, learning about code and the game, nice!
@CJPG1
@CJPG1 4 ай бұрын
I always reasoned that the hammer jump attacks didn't work because of the skulltula's dexterity. Long ass swings to try and get insects often have them moving around you. I don't know if that was my young brain telling a story to immerse in the game more or not but either way it would not affect the weapon stats in terms of the outcome in either case. So I'll stick with my silly thinking cos its fun.
@WeaponsRemorse
@WeaponsRemorse 5 ай бұрын
shadow arrows and ice magic huh i want to know what those are!
@minirop
@minirop 5 ай бұрын
so Zelda 64DD means Zelda 64 Double Damages?
@magnusdiridian
@magnusdiridian 5 ай бұрын
it means Don't Deliver...to the usa
@khsj1430
@khsj1430 4 ай бұрын
Laugh Harder than i should. Good ones
@Vandita3344
@Vandita3344 5 ай бұрын
This was such a amazing indepth video, i love seeing these Zelda Ocarina of Time tech videos. Thanks for the upload.
@jeremymitchem327
@jeremymitchem327 4 ай бұрын
I always thought the Megaton Hammer was a base 3.
@freestalkerdotfr6391
@freestalkerdotfr6391 5 ай бұрын
I played a little bit the Stronghold hack and noticed some unpredictable damages. I know why now because the game engine isn't logical enough for me in term of coding. Where I can play Wind Waker, TP and Skyward Sword in a more predictable way. The logic is more present. For example if I cut an artery IRL, I'll now that the person in front of me will die. If nothing is done to heal him of cours. In fact if I lose an heart I can say that's not my fault ?
@CWCvilleCop
@CWCvilleCop 5 ай бұрын
Have to say, WW has my favorite combat style in a Zelda game, MAYBE with the exception of BotW. It's just so TIGHT. It feels like a comprehensive martial art within the context of the game's combat, and makes you feel like you really earned those Knight's crests.
@DrakeTheVoidDragon7577
@DrakeTheVoidDragon7577 4 ай бұрын
The giant's knife looks different from the biggoron sword. I want to point that out because when you show all the weapons at the start of the video, they are the same. The Giants knife has a blue bit on the bottom of the handle, the biggoron sword has a gold one. That's the key difference. Edit: I forgot, but the grip is also changed from a tan leathery color on the knife, to a white color on the biggoron sword.
@jacob-4595
@jacob-4595 4 ай бұрын
I’ve played this game and MM for thousands of hours in my childhood and I never knew about the crouch stab
@RDKateran
@RDKateran 5 ай бұрын
For anyone curious, the sword silhouette in the video thumbnail is a Kit Rae fantasy sword called Valermos, the Sword of Fire.
@c0baltl1ghtn1ng
@c0baltl1ghtn1ng 5 ай бұрын
iirc Kokiri Jump also OHKOs Wolfos's back, too. White Wolfos have the same shtick, too. I don't know their health, but a Master Sword Jump OHKO's the White Wolfos in the Ice Cavern
@iLLadelph267
@iLLadelph267 5 ай бұрын
cool video! I knew about crouch stabs' damage output but had no idea they retain weapon properties too
@tokeivo
@tokeivo 5 ай бұрын
You can use this to use your sword as a bomb. I'm not sure if I'm remembering it correctly, but I think it's the Hammer jump slash that has the bomb/explosion property, which you can then use with a regular stab - making you able to hit a few things that you can't hit with a jump-slash.
@kani_mar
@kani_mar 4 ай бұрын
I like how a damn stick is as dangerous as a hammer and even the sacred blade to ban all evil 💀
@SplatastictheRealOne
@SplatastictheRealOne 4 ай бұрын
So, that also applies an interesting idea, since link normally has 20 total hearts(each heart is 4 health, for a total of 80 health pre double defense) what would that do to a character like Dark Link, who mirrors your health value if you could apply some kind of 4x "crit/weakspot" multiplier to the entity would the max damage remain 64 or would he also have certain weaknesses as well? given some are "scrapped/unused" types of damage/elements? it was an interesting video.
@raymondjack
@raymondjack 5 ай бұрын
I’m 35 been playing/watching KZbin videos on this game and I love the way you are breaking it down. But I have seen everything you talked about. Besides watching that dude beat the iron giant before even leaving the cutscene with a shield and big Goron sword. It’s works so well while being so broken, learn something new everyday. That’s why it’s the best game ever.
@CWCvilleCop
@CWCvilleCop 5 ай бұрын
I remember accidentally defeating one like that and just being like "Huh??" I chalked it up to damage multipliers I didn't quite understand, and yeah. I guess that's what it was.
@alanfinck5595
@alanfinck5595 5 ай бұрын
The wolfos thing I just thought was Link severing his spinal cord.
@Nix-Man
@Nix-Man 4 ай бұрын
Don't think I've been more won over by a video before. Great stuff
@Kaztalek
@Kaztalek 5 ай бұрын
good video, as always
@ericb3157
@ericb3157 5 ай бұрын
this makes me think of the Final Fantasy games... IF you cast the "FIre 3" spell on an enemy that's weak against fire, OR an "Ice 3" spell on an enemy that's weak against ice, OR a "Lightning 3" spell on an enemy that's weak against lightning, you can do 9999 damage. that's assuming that the character casting the spell has a "Magic" attribute of 50 or more.
@Adventureruler
@Adventureruler 5 ай бұрын
Greatly edited and informative 👍
@Monkey_on_Call
@Monkey_on_Call 4 ай бұрын
I would've loved to see the empty jump slash done on a wolfos' tail!
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 4 ай бұрын
So do you think the Wolfos enemy has multiple hitboxes so it can detect whether it is being attacked from behind? Maybe you hit both when you get that certain angle like you mentioned, and that triggers the double damage register Can't really think of another way an n64 programmer would have been able to create the wolfos backstab system
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 4 ай бұрын
could it even be their tails?
@SincerelyVince
@SincerelyVince 4 ай бұрын
the jump attack for the hammer may be an overflow issue. the attack is so strong, it overflows the modulation they have in place for damage (if it exceeds X damage, wrap it back around)
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 4 ай бұрын
@@SincerelyVince it's not, it's just 0 damage in those enemies' damage tables
@markabyss1200
@markabyss1200 5 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure ice arrows are the strongest, but don't actually do their damage properly as it instead freezes enemies. The exception is on volvagia where it does CRAZY damage.
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
@@markabyss1200 they're not that strong. Even on volvagia it's just 4 damage. Same as a master sword jumpslash
@markabyss1200
@markabyss1200 5 ай бұрын
You know, I was told it was the damage of the biggoron sword so I immediately assumed it was the jump attack. But 4 damages matches up to biggoron swing. My bad!
@homerman76
@homerman76 5 ай бұрын
​@@markabyss1200 Still, that's an interesting tidbit, too bad you can't normally get the ice arrows before the fire temple 😅, but it will be useful to know the next time I do a randomizer 🤔
@Sypaka
@Sypaka 5 ай бұрын
Could you check, if attack properties are a simple bitmask in the damage type array? Because you show 13 items + 2 unused would turn into 15 bits of 16. So the value of -2 underflow in the damage type array could be 0x7FFF or rather decimal 32767. Well, it might be using 0xFFFF as well, indicating another unused damage type. Unless the first two bits of that mask is the raw damage itself. 2 bits damage + 14 damage type = 16 bits
@Solrex_the_Sun_King
@Solrex_the_Sun_King 5 ай бұрын
Is there a glitch in the vanilla unmodded game that lets you shoot shadow arrows? Is the visual effects implemented at all?
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
@@Solrex_the_Sun_King nah it's not implemented at all as far as I know beyond its entry in the damage tables
@Solrex_the_Sun_King
@Solrex_the_Sun_King 5 ай бұрын
@@dannyb21892 rip
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece 4 ай бұрын
I did not know that the Sword of Proctology was part of OOT canon.
@jedstanaland2897
@jedstanaland2897 5 ай бұрын
There are rumors that the great fairy sword of majora's mask is significantly more powerful than the biggoron sword of OOT. This said the damage outputs from majora's mask and OOT does not completely line up.
@Platformer64
@Platformer64 5 ай бұрын
If there was a competitive scene for Zelda PvP the META would be crazy bro
@grapejuice9681
@grapejuice9681 5 ай бұрын
Would love to see a video on the empty jump slash!
@bradyonetv
@bradyonetv 5 ай бұрын
Maybe the real strongest attack was the friends we made along the way…
@SullySadface
@SullySadface 4 ай бұрын
I'm guessing the Crouch Stab Isn't the jumping hammer attack 0 damage to *everything* if you don't do a regular swing first?
@ViviBuchlaw
@ViviBuchlaw 5 ай бұрын
My dumb butt hoping itd be some glitch with the bottle: 😂
@IndigoTeddy
@IndigoTeddy 5 ай бұрын
Great video, never thought I'd need to know the last part, but I'm glad I learned it. Question though: in the case you're doing SRM (or hacking or whatever), what's the size limit for the damage? Is it just one byte (like the health value for the Wolfos), or could you theoretically deal an entire 64-bit word of damage?
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
I'm honestly not sure about the damage itself, but enemy hp I'm pretty sure is just one byte so they can have a max of 255hp anyway.
@Glockenspheal
@Glockenspheal 5 ай бұрын
My off-the-cuff theory on why Skulltulas are immune to jump hammer attacks is because they may lack a property that creates a proper shockwave, but I might totally be missremembering a lot of stuff.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 5 ай бұрын
Wait, Ice magic? To learn that this ancient damage type survived development is kinda funny.
@praisegod3267
@praisegod3267 4 ай бұрын
Question what happens if you do this damage and then fight shadow link...
@renegaderaven3777
@renegaderaven3777 5 ай бұрын
As a kid I had a rough understanding of some of the damage values like that the Kokiri sword dealt 1 damage and the Deku sticks dealt 2 damage and that jump attacks doubled that damage. A strange occurrence is King Dodongo. He’ll normally fall in 4 hits from the Kokiri sword. So logically they have 4 hp, right? So when I tried using Deku stick jump attacks to beat them in one shot I was rather disappointed to find it still took 3 jump attacks. Does King Dodongo have armor value against Deku sticks maybe?
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
@@renegaderaven3777 king dodongo takes two cycles of bomb+jumpslash if you use master sword, hammer, or deku stick. He has 12 health though. Each bomb in his mouth does 2 damage (though he can't die to this attack). And then the first melee attack to reduce him to 0 will kill. So a standard fight is bomb, jumpslash, bomb, jumpslash, which does 2,4,2,4 damage.
@renegaderaven3777
@renegaderaven3777 5 ай бұрын
@@dannyb21892 oh okay, didn’t know the bombs were dealing damage as well. That makes sense
@Doctorzzim
@Doctorzzim 5 ай бұрын
I made a spreadsheet of all damage tables from the decomp that I would link if youtube allowed it
@e-mananimates2274
@e-mananimates2274 5 ай бұрын
64 damage is quite poetic! By the way, I know the Torch Slugs could resist the Kokiri Sword, but what about a Broken Giant's Knife attack? Would that have any affect?
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
Just checked and confirmed that it seems to behave the same as kokiri sword for both torch slugs and freezzards!
@e-mananimates2274
@e-mananimates2274 5 ай бұрын
​@@dannyb21892 You don't say. I wonder if some of the programming used for the Kokiri sword was carried over to the Broken Giant's Knife.
@SnoopSqueak
@SnoopSqueak 5 ай бұрын
@@e-mananimates2274 If I understand right from the video: The broken giant's knife uses the same damage value as the kokiri sword, and some enemies reduce a certain amount of incoming damage before applying it.
@e-mananimates2274
@e-mananimates2274 5 ай бұрын
@@SnoopSqueak Well, okay. I was just wondering if any other attacks that cause one damage could harm the Torch Slug, while the Kokiri Sword only had that quirk programmed into it.
@SnoopSqueak
@SnoopSqueak 5 ай бұрын
@@e-mananimates2274 My guess is ALL attacks that cause one damage will not hurt the torch slug, since the torch slug reduces them all from 1 to 0, but I'm not positive. I got the impression it's not really a special quirk of the sword, more that the enemy is the one lowering the damage regardless of where it comes from, but that might not be the case. I should know better than to expect consistency from N64 game code lol, so maybe there are some special exceptions or other weird things... I may try it out sometime just to see, but I'm not sure when that would be.
@KeinNiemand
@KeinNiemand 5 ай бұрын
If you count glitches you can't you just use ACE to kill everything instantly/do max/infinite damage (whatever the limit of whatever data type damage is stored as is)?
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
@@KeinNiemand we always leave ACE out of challenges besides something like an Any% speedrun since it obviously trivializes everything. Restrictions breed creativity!
@unknown000001000
@unknown000001000 5 ай бұрын
I've noticed something similar to the last thing with the Wolfos when attacking Redeads with a Master Sword jump slash and having them die in one hit. I've also seen something similar with Dodongos if you hit them in a sweet spot. Are these the same concept? :3
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
Some enemies like redeads and dead hand (idk about dodongos) can be hit twice in quick succession with the same attack, so yeah it's similar. But afaik wolfos are the only ones that actually get hit twice in the same frame!
@HikaruCh.
@HikaruCh. 5 ай бұрын
Basically with that glitch, you can one shot Ganondorf lmao, so much for a final boss huh
@MetalGearCry
@MetalGearCry 5 ай бұрын
So, crouch stabs retain all the damage of what the previous attack delt. So, in theory, using an ISG after hitting a wolfos with 64 damage, we can attack anything with all that damage at will
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
@@MetalGearCry unfortunately it doesn't work like that. The attack was a Biggoron Sword jumpslash, so that's what crouch stabs will copy. How much damage that does is determined independently by the enemy being attacked. So if we attacked a wolfos again, sure we could do 64 damage. But anyone else would just take 8 damage.
@MetalGearCry
@MetalGearCry 4 ай бұрын
@@dannyb21892 Ah. Thx
@MetalGearCry
@MetalGearCry 4 ай бұрын
@@dannyb21892 Love OOT btw, and your content.
@johaomikaelmaringagne6179
@johaomikaelmaringagne6179 5 ай бұрын
What is your oot editor? What's the best way to edit n64 game code? I'm so curious about moding and left 9ver content developer left out
@Jotari
@Jotari 5 ай бұрын
Aside from the Wolfos, are there any other enemies that have weakness multipliers?
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
@@Jotari not as far as I know, they're a pretty unique case! Some enemies take more damage from a particular weapon than others take from the same weapon, but wolfos are the only ones I know of that take different damage from the same attack depending on how you hit them (ignoring attacks that get entirely blocked by enemy shielding)
@Jotari
@Jotari 5 ай бұрын
@@dannyb21892 Thinking on it, in addition to the Megaton Hammer weirdness for them, Skulltulas do kind of have the same thing going on with their frontal protection, which actually can be bypassed with adult Link's projectiles.
@MrKevin486
@MrKevin486 5 ай бұрын
The most powerful attack was the friends we made along the way! :D
@Adventureruler
@Adventureruler 5 ай бұрын
The spine IS one of the most important parts of the body. ☝
@Historicutuber
@Historicutuber 5 ай бұрын
Omg I had a feeling about that with the Wolfos
@dominicgendron3011
@dominicgendron3011 4 ай бұрын
What about the spin attack and charged spin attack?
@theglem4
@theglem4 5 ай бұрын
How have shadow arrows never appeared in a game before? They had the coolest idea and then never did anything with it!
@WilliamScavengerFish
@WilliamScavengerFish 5 ай бұрын
What about the giants knife?
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
@@WilliamScavengerFish it's exactly the same item as Biggoron Sword, except with a flag switched to allow it to break.
@zacharyelliott1705
@zacharyelliott1705 5 ай бұрын
@terminalmontage IDEAS FOR THE OOT SOMETHING ABOUT????
@andrewlanglois6362
@andrewlanglois6362 4 ай бұрын
Parry will always attack twice whenever I play through
@entropy-cat
@entropy-cat 5 ай бұрын
But where's the silhouette sword from the thumbnail?
@akaidenki5526
@akaidenki5526 5 ай бұрын
The hammer jump attack doing nothing is apparently intended, because during development, they had a spider and couldn't get rid of it or something like that, i'll edit my comment later to get the exact story
@RavenT7T
@RavenT7T 5 ай бұрын
the hammer kills them because of the AOE , like if you hit the ground and there are spiders on the wall out of meele range, they die
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
the regular swing also kills them, AOE or not.
@Cyberdyne_research
@Cyberdyne_research 4 ай бұрын
Zelda + stats - opinions =asmr
@Nirakolov
@Nirakolov 5 ай бұрын
Are you sure that, like, with Arbitary Code Execution you can't do the hex value of your user name as damage?
@dannyb21892
@dannyb21892 5 ай бұрын
We generally ignore ace for any challenges because of course you can rewrite all of the game code from the inside if you want. So it trivializes any question you ask.
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