What Taiwanese Think of "Chinese Taipei" ?

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What Taiwanese Think of "Chinese Taipei" ?

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What Taiwanese Think of "Chinese Taipei" ?
For those who watch my channel, you probably know that I'll be traveling to France at the end of the month. Of course, I'll also be in Paris to watch the Olympics. The algorithm is truly amazing; one day, it recommended a video from TaiwanPlus Docs on KZbin titled "Who is Chinese Taipei?" I was deeply inspired by the video, so I decided to go out and interview Taiwanese people to hear their thoughts. I want to thank TaiwanPlus Docs KZbin for authorizing the use of their video for this project. I hope you will be inspired as well. Go Taiwan in the Olympics!
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@TaiwanPlusDocs Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for making this video, Jay! We're equally as happy that you found us - all hail the YT algorithm! It's nice to hear more Taiwanese people speak their minds about this "issue." It's also interesting to learn that not many people know the history of this name, and to that we believe this video and our documentary are crucial. For all who are interested, please head to our channel for the full video and a 5-minute explainer 🙏🏻 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmnTiqGpo9ZrrpI 這部紀錄片啟發了你讓我們備感欣慰，Jay，謝謝你！很開心聽到更多台灣人民對於 "中華台北" 這個名稱的看法，尤其聽到不少人不太了解這段歷史時，更讓我們覺得製作這部紀錄片以及你這支影片是重要的。有興趣的朋友們，歡迎到我們的頻道觀看完整版＆一支5分鐘解析版喔！(連結如上)

@JayChenTaiwan Ай бұрын

@user-dz2cl4co4w 14 күн бұрын

让全世界都知道台湾在二战时是日本战犯，在中国内战时是中国战犯吗？

@kaichen9903 Ай бұрын

There's no "Taiwaness" flag. It's Republic of China flag. It's China China China

@amurolin1551 Ай бұрын

看過幾個訪問影片都能清晰表達意見，跟其他YT訪問影片不敢表達或是語意不清的強很多，真的蠻特別的欸，訪談內容大家都講的不錯，就算明顯知道一組完全跟我不一樣的政治傾向也都講的很好呀

@kisaragi-hiu Ай бұрын

This is a pretty fair presentation. Like the documentary, I'm really glad that non-heated views into how we think about this situation have been made.

@yerri5567 Ай бұрын

How is it fair when the age group is limited to mostly the young people with a strong "TW" identity? Ask the older folks and see what they think

@bearlin6136 Ай бұрын

BTW羽球比賽開場時會標明選手的國家與城市，戴資穎寫的是Chinese Taipei, Kaohsiung ，有點好笑😂

@JayChenTaiwan Ай бұрын

我沒注意到ㄟ ~ 原來還有+ Kaohsiung

@JayChenTaiwan Ай бұрын

Source: TaiwanPlus Docs KZbin kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmnTiqGpo9ZrrpI

@w012014 Ай бұрын

1.既折衷又糢糊的名。 2.CT意謂著「在台北的中國流亡政府」，即中華民國，更精準的字眼是「中華民國的蔣介石的國民政府」，因為在中國近現代史上有所謂的「中華民國的汪精衛的國民政府」。 3.1949年大潰逃的中華民國，其名義上的總統是李宗仁先生，只不過李先生去（ㄊㄠˊ）到了太平洋的彼岸-美利堅合眾國，而當時掌握黨國真正大權的仍是KMT總裁蔣先生。

@w012014 Ай бұрын

4.之前在炒/吵的UN 2758號決議，其實前面有兩個修正案，一個是美國與日本所提的「複雜的雙重代表權」，即讓PRC進入UN，並取得常任理事，而ROC則轉為一般會員；另一個則是沙烏地阿拉伯所提的「一中一台」- PRC即中國；ROC為臺灣，但都被多數否決，故我駐UN代表在2758（恢復PRC的一切合法XY）還沒表決成文前就上台宣告「退出」，其實是….大勢已去。

@w012014 Ай бұрын

5.「梵蒂岡」城國的官網上的「中國國旗」是「青天白日滿地紅」，雖然如此，但只要中共與教廷「喬」好中國的主教任命權的問題，那駐華使館就會從臺北市遷往北京城，行同與我斷交。

@w012014 Ай бұрын

6.除了外部，內部上如果不能「解決中華民國」的體制與遺產，當然這裡的解決不是指統畜黨的背捅與民退黨的以花磨毒/以毒謀利，那再過50年，情勢上對我們是越來越不利。

@w012014 Ай бұрын

7.正視中華民國是解決中華民國的第一步；要打敗中國國民黨，請加入/滲透到中國國民黨去瞭解/知道它。

@garretm.clarke3834 Ай бұрын

Hey Jay, so fun to see your video. Its an interesting experience asking people what they think and allowing them space to talk. I hope you had a good time and learned something from making this. Cheers, Garret

@JayChenTaiwan Сағат бұрын

@RonCHANG-kb6fz Ай бұрын

像是MG，明明中國車，在台灣組合後叫國產車，就是有這種吃裏扒外的企業硬不起來，變得大家都要自我審查

@s937610 Ай бұрын

可笑，網路上一片罵聲和泰車那種只會代工豐田還賣那麼貴你有比較爽？MG偏偏就是很多人買啦！

@RonCHANG-kb6fz Ай бұрын

@@s937610 當然是一樣不爽啊，但我更看不起垃圾沒骨氣的企業

@RedMoon543 Ай бұрын

這沒什麼問題吧，很多廠牌都這樣應該說中國品牌國產車，以前mazda ford 也有國產車

@M3.Lorenzo Ай бұрын

Why do you even expect international organizations to change their rules and accept Taiwan as the official name for any Taiwanese delegation, if such a Republic of Taiwan does not even exist in reality? I mean, after all, it seems that Taiwanese people have not even taken any actions to officially change their own government's name from Republic of China to Republic of Taiwan? If you can't even change your own name, then what's the point of asking/forcing everyone else to call you Republic of Taiwan when the government's name is literally Republic of China? You're basically asking the whole world to lie to themselves in order to make you happy?? 😅

@Marsbati Ай бұрын

Spot on! Great explanation!

@KitiaraUthMatarr Ай бұрын

They actually had tried, but all attempts were blocked by pro-China political party KMT.

@taiwan1381 Ай бұрын

You know republic of China (RPC) is not mainland China right? That's the people's republic of China (PRC). Its like saying north Korea and south Korea are the same because they both say korea

@Marsbati Ай бұрын

@@taiwan1381 nope, the constitution of ROC said it very clearly, the territory of ROC includes the mainland and taiwan island.

@taiwan1381 Ай бұрын

@@Marsbati in that case, mainland should be under west taiwan

@NewBambooCity Ай бұрын

I am Taiwanese and i hope Taiwan can compete as Taiwan not "Chinese Taipei"....

@daiwanrenzhudinsiguang Ай бұрын

马上就ty了！感觉泥门失业也不会饿s嘛。gtb蠢的不行

Ай бұрын

Well you’re also wrong as Taipei is Chinese. There is no Taiwan nation or people differentiating between China and Taiwan you are just fujin people

@rage8kage Ай бұрын

Well if you want to compete as Taiwan then change the name of your country. Because the name of your country is not Taiwan it is republic of China ROC.

@Marsbati Ай бұрын

LOL Day dreamer!

@user-lh6dg7iw1n Ай бұрын

Taiwan (Taipei), Chinese just angry that's why, we're all know Taiwanese Passport much powerful than Chinese

@RonCHANG-kb6fz Ай бұрын

謝謝Jay

@user-xt7cm5pv5g Ай бұрын

最丟臉的就是在台灣舉辦還是一樣拿奧運旗超丟臉台灣運動員沒志氣是我我就不參賽除非拿中華民國國旗瑞莎出賽得獎還拿中華民國國旗比台灣運動員爭氣瑞莎加油

@user-uh2ik7mo6r Ай бұрын

幸好台灣的運動員都實力堅強，不像你只靠一張嘴

@user-pf6kl7pt6h Ай бұрын

因為一堆中華奧會太垃圾了，明明運動原本來就可以用個人名義參賽，結果偉大的各種中華xx協會用各式各樣名義綁架運動員照著他們想要的中華才能比賽，得獎還要分超多獎金給他們捏……那些中華運動協會各種花式惡搞網路都查得到

@user-xt7cm5pv5g Ай бұрын

@@user-uh2ik7mo6r 你現在不也是靠一張嘴好好笑

@user-uh2ik7mo6r Ай бұрын

@@user-xt7cm5pv5g我支持台灣運動員，看到他們遭受不公平的批評，我用我的嘴幫他們出聲，抱不平，跟你不同。台灣運動員很辛苦，四年磨一劍為了能夠登上國際體育最高殿堂，跟其他世界最強的運動員一同競技。笑死人，如果是我我就不出賽，講這種話您都不會不好意思嗎？還有意思說人家沒志氣，請問您多有志氣？請您有點良心。

@weslah4435 Ай бұрын

瑞莎都是野鷄賽事當然沒人管他是誰

@vtchnglim Ай бұрын

The real reason why Taiwan can not be Taiwan in 1976: "We announce that the Republic of China Olympic Committee can not accept the proposal put forth by the Executive Committee of the International Olympic Committee to change the Republic of China name to Taiwan."

@FASTREDMR2 25 күн бұрын

Taiwan 1976 "Republic of China Olympic Committee" = KMT ( one party rule / state )

@mikelee5658 Ай бұрын

喜歡的議題，謝謝Jay！

@JayChenTaiwan Ай бұрын

謝謝支持 ☀

@williamho1879 Ай бұрын

第四組開始才出現正常人前面不是精神分裂就是被洗腦

@johnnyhsu6546 Ай бұрын

Jay應該是台派沒錯…很棒，碰觸到被忽略的議題另外，jay常常讓我誤以為看到壹加壹的頻道

@riverkid606 Ай бұрын

哈哈燙頭髮後更像

@andyi4247 Ай бұрын

台派改名都不敢整天撕裂國民認同拿中華民國的身分證拿中華民國的護照出國中華民國的健保看醫生還一直刻意忽略中華民國沒中華民國總統府早掛五星旗了台灣是中華民國的一部份是凍省沒廢省

@JayChenTaiwan Ай бұрын

@@riverkid606 真的嗎

@u8eleven Ай бұрын

我記得之前公投，以台灣為名申請參加2020年東京奧運公投案。不願意的票數比較多。

@user-Listz Ай бұрын

最主要是運動員自己也不願意

@sean781130 Ай бұрын

被情勒說改名不能參賽於是繼續代表中國出征

@喜羊羊喜欢灰太狼 Ай бұрын

说的好像你申请了就能参加一样，不是你们决定的懂吗😂

@sean781130 Ай бұрын

@@喜羊羊喜欢灰太狼也不是中國決定的

@喜羊羊喜欢灰太狼 Ай бұрын

@@sean781130 中国不反对，没有国家会反对，你说谁决定，包括1who之类得组织

@SB-jg9fe Ай бұрын

外國人怎麼看還其次，每次看到（應該是天龍人）的說法，什麼無所謂云云，就覺得是個沒有主見的族群或是個懦弱的人

@user-vo6qw5fj7y Ай бұрын

沒辦法，現在執政黨就舔共賣台啊，用自我矮化的國名參賽還這麼開心

@user-Listz Ай бұрын

哪裡都有這樣的人即使你到國外一樣能看到這種沒主見的人不用特別去標籤誰

@coldheart9014 Ай бұрын

確實應該叫中華民國，叫中華台北矮化太多太多了哀

@yale420 Ай бұрын

@@coldheart9014 不想再被中華民國這個框架綁住，台灣就是台灣，中華民國概念是歷史遺毒！

@Allen-mh3kj 18 күн бұрын

@@coldheart9014 Republic of China，你來自China?

@aseawrharh Ай бұрын

曾經覺得正名台灣很重要，但現在已經覺得都沒差了，無論用甚麼名稱，生活還是要過，錢還是要賺，工時仍然一樣長。其實大多數代表隊的表現，看了也不會很開心，他們用甚麼名字有甚麼差別嗎？

@ChanChan-le6qw Ай бұрын

哈哈自欺欺人😂😂😂

@martin-Box Ай бұрын

因為國家對你來說已經不重要了，所以叫什麼也沒差了，這就是社會邊緣化的因素，因為社會壓力已經把你壓到你對任何事物已經沒什麼認同感了，這很危險，記得提升自己的職能，學識，加強自己的專業，不然會淪為低薪族群。

@user-od1kw5hq2g Ай бұрын

辛苦了

@user-od1kw5hq2g Ай бұрын

事實上就是一堆議題都有在意的人，別人不在意這個議題也不用勉強別人吧

@TheMaria996387 Ай бұрын

有一次棒球國際賽結束,派出中國專員採訪該場比賽MVP陳鏞基,該中國專員滿嘴中國台北隊,陳鏞基直接回答台灣隊,滿場球迷歡呼

@mshieh70 Ай бұрын

Is chinese taiwan or Taipei.

@zhongxingjin846 Ай бұрын

独立是靠枪炮打出来的，用嘴口high没有用

@MindyMa Ай бұрын

Currently the government is named Republic of China (which sounds very close to PRC). Because the global infamous actions from People's Republic of China (PRC), in the last 2 to 3 decades, the citizens of ROC prefer using *Taiwan* to distinguish the 2 different nations (and governing entities). Chinese Taipei was probably a compromising name that started in 1970s when the military leaders of ROC(Taiwan) had to distinguish from PRC(China).

@MindyMa Ай бұрын

btw, Taipei is the capital, not the name of the country.

@xingwang4091 Ай бұрын

@@MindyMaactually Taipei just a core zone in Taiwan, cannot be called as 'capital'

@blazingminer14 Ай бұрын

3:13 what is going on in the background on that swing??? is that a typical activity in taipei?

@JayChenTaiwan Ай бұрын

@riverkid606 Ай бұрын

幾個看起來像愛玩小紅書的年輕女生都很迷中華民國或中華台北這個名字。

@s937610 Ай бұрын

阿不然勒，不然去修憲改名啊

@riverkid606 Ай бұрын

@@s937610 我也想啊，啊你們就不死光，很煩欸🥹

@s937610 Ай бұрын

@@riverkid606 臭速辣不敢改，嘴砲台獨😆

@kpelarma4795 Ай бұрын

你们的那个旗不就是中华民国的旗帜吗？战败政权的旗帜😂

@weslah4435 Ай бұрын

@@s937610下周五就改你等等

@SeanChen11 Ай бұрын

什麼政治歸政治體育歸體育結果搞在一起的根源就是對岸 ,google 翻譯 "chinese taipei " 有時翻中華台北有時翻中國台北了 , 這名字就是想騙台灣人而已

@mimicqneb Ай бұрын

China中國 Chinese中國人，中國的 Chinese Taipei自動變中華台北中華隊😂😂😂 所以中國=中華😂😂😂

@lujainavrohom Ай бұрын

你们的国号就是中华民国，够胆就修改宪法成立你们的台湾国

@Marsbati Ай бұрын

@@mimicqneb当然中国=中华，没有中国哪有中华？反之亦然，没有中华哪有中国？

@user-vn6up5hp1w Ай бұрын

台湾人不是自己掩耳盗铃，自己骗自己吗？

@zhidongchen8759 Ай бұрын

因为基本所有国家都承认一个中国。没错，台湾邦交国也有认定一个中国的，不过是认为民国政府是代表中国的合法政府😂。

@bctvanw Ай бұрын

很多人不知道台灣以前參加奧運用的是Formosa和Taiwan 當然當時政府內宣只會提到中華民國參賽像是1960羅馬奧運會楊傳廣得銀牌回顧原始照片影片那一年台灣是以Formosa參賽楊傳廣比賽計分板上顯示的是TWN 但台灣歷史都是說"華人"第一面奧運獎牌代表"中華民國" 還有楊傳廣是日本時期出生的阿美族他平時簽名會簽阿美族語的名台灣最後一次可用Taiwan參賽是1976年的蒙特羅奧運當時的台灣政府憤而罷賽之後只能用Chinese Taipei 以那個時期的政府來說 Chinese Taipei是用來取代ROC或China 想用無法用的名稱並非為了台灣Taiwan/Formosa而取的名另外Formosa出場的時候是排序F Taiwan出場的是後是排序T Chinese Taipei出場的是後是排序T 簡碼是TPE 並非排序C 以前台灣參加奧運在國際是Formosa和Taiwan的時候内宣可自稱"中華民國隊/中國隊" 但當今台灣參加奧運在國際是Chinese Taipei的時候內宣繼續自稱"中華隊"

@u8eleven Ай бұрын

記得當時公投同意用中華台北的好像比較多。

@bctvanw Ай бұрын

@@u8eleven 一部分怕選手不能比賽一部分是政治影響投票(各政黨有公投支持反對名單) 公投才沒過的假設不受這些影響你想結果會是什麼? 對外和自稱是兩回事我後面也提到了就算在外面比賽無法改名自己也可以在國內用自己的說法啊其實我是常看外國的新聞和轉播其實其他國家常幫台灣正名直接稱呼我們Taiwan隊播報員還隨口說出Formosa過當時看的是英國轉播撞球(Cold Face Killer)

@user-dy1kp8ox4m Ай бұрын

中國政權在台灣苟延殘喘的證據

@dunjiin2271 Ай бұрын

@@bctvanw您的說法正確

@mimicqneb Ай бұрын

2024仍然持續😂😂😂

@kimurahundoshi4485 Ай бұрын

as a korean/japanese(I'm mix). I always support taiwan my taiwanese friends are so nice and my best girl is tzuyu

@user-lt7cw9rh3q Ай бұрын

這是一個令人心酸的真實事件⋯⋯當我看到潛水好手那麼優秀的潛了2分鐘25秒時，卻只能看到他的國籍國旗是一個玻璃碎片～他來自哪裡啊？玻璃？⋯令人傷心💔😢

@kenchen8652 Ай бұрын

你是指哪国的国旗？！搞笑吗？

@whatevermom630 Ай бұрын

中華民國國旗～ 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼

@kailin2800 Ай бұрын

@@kenchen8652 你的國行iphone沒有不代表現實中不存在

@zzzz8949 Ай бұрын

不用伤心，做个堂堂正正的中国人

@kenchen8652 Ай бұрын

@@kailin2800 中国国行手机是华为，存在的非常好，谢谢关心。中华明国的国心和灵魂在哪里?

@histeven130411 Ай бұрын

下次可以換中華新北出賽嗎？為什麼都是台北？

@user-gh6pq8xb6i Ай бұрын

可以，中国新北，中国高雄，中国台南，都可以😊

@onlonlqqq4528 Ай бұрын

我想以中華頭城名義參賽

@已由寒國人置顶 Ай бұрын

@@user-gh6pq8xb6i我还中国新疆呢😂我们这里省份很多，台湾选手慢慢换😂😂😂

@已由寒國人置顶 Ай бұрын

只要你喜欢，中国内蒙古都可以给你换😂

@Jun-LUO Ай бұрын

台湾如果想独立的话，除非中国回到1960，那是台湾最接近独立的时间，不过已经不可能了。台湾接触中国之后日子会好过起来，所以，大陆人从来没有考虑够台湾人不接受自己是中国人。因为这种独立的声音会在两岸真正接触后消失，大陆带台湾起飞

@rafalyenlee Ай бұрын

獨立啊打贏獨立戰爭就可以😂😂

@MindyMa Ай бұрын

不好笑。光輻射污染與柴油食用油混合就會害死多少人了。人命與生病的痛苦不是遊戲。

@MindyMa Ай бұрын

同時，要打戰也是沒辦法。只能備戰與增強實力。

@MindyMa Ай бұрын

另外，先看看上海會不會受不了爛政策而脫離中華人民共和國並獨立吧。

@yijunning5095 Ай бұрын

@@MindyMa 多吃点莱猪和核食就好了啦

@dainan2291 Ай бұрын

⁠@@MindyMa我認為中國的政策很好，為什麼要打仗，我們作為中國的一個省代表中國參賽，運動員會更加有榮譽感。不能打仗我們民眾的生活也會提高一個層次。期待台灣回歸大陸的一天！

@debbylin8030 Ай бұрын

Since we can’t change the situation now, we have to show the world our effort!

@Trust_but_Verify 24 күн бұрын

1:34 Those 2 girls lying down on the swing is a difference experience.

@user-cw7lt1kq7f Ай бұрын

體育應該沒有政治的成分，但問題是更改成這個名字的原因就是因為政治因素啊。就算以正式英文國名還是會有很多人誤解是"CHINA"

@wallowes Ай бұрын

所以是"Taiwan"，絕對不會有人誤解。

@shihuiyang2158 Ай бұрын

@@wallowesTaiwan, China 勿省略谢谢

@wallowes Ай бұрын

@@shihuiyang2158 只有Taiwan，你在世界上哪裡聽過Taiwan, China?

@shihuiyang2158 Ай бұрын

@@wallowes 你没听过Republic of China?

@shihuiyang2158 Ай бұрын

@@wallowes 自己护照上有China假装不认识？

@tianyihu-u6q 24 күн бұрын

我是大陆人。虽然很多人的观点我个人不认同，但也理解台湾人的真实想法。多出来看看也许对自己的感观会不同。每个人的战略光放更大点。订阅了

@rafalyenlee Ай бұрын

打贏中國解放軍把中國踢掉常任理事國你要叫甚麼國名隨便你宇宙銀河 formosa 台灣😂😂😂

@MindyMa Ай бұрын

柴油與食用油混吃造成的病痛與人命並不是遊戲與玩笑。核彈或是子彈的腐蝕人體的痛你試試3秒鐘看看。當然，就算怕痛與高稅金還是需為戰爭準備，那樣才有不打仗的選擇。

@user-js7pm2or9s 29 күн бұрын

@@MindyMa美国不吃的猪肉不是也卖给台湾了😂

@romannumeral6523 29 күн бұрын

We need more organizations willing to allow the Taiwan name/flag to be used. I don't understand why that's so hard to do.

@TangoLima1 Ай бұрын

There is now such thing as "Taiwan flag". It is called the Republic of China flag- Qing tian bai ri man di hong" = The rising sun over a sea of blood in memory of the 1911 revolution that over threw the last imperial dynasty. The Qing dynasty. The rising sun is the Nationalist party flag. If any ruling party wants to declared a "Republic of Taiwan" they will need to amend their constitution and change the flag. If the people on the island won't commit treason why so many Western ignorants want to try to change it? Do you like foreigners to tamper with your "We the People" constitution? Get educated or stop trying to interfere in other countries affairs.

@hoshek Ай бұрын

在非中文为语言的外国人看来ChineseTaipei和ChineseHongkong在本质上几乎没有区别，前者翻译中国台北，后者翻译中国香港，至于台湾人翻译成中华台北，其实也是台湾的政治需要啦，台湾人可以接受中华（虽然很多人也不愿意接受），但是肯定不愿意冠上“中国”。还有就是台湾人的感受认知和政治现实不符合，很多台湾人觉得台湾是一个国家，但是实际上呢，台湾的政体来自于中国的前政府（中华民国）的行政体制，在一中原则上，中华民国已经不被广泛承认，但是台湾共和国又没有成立，就造成了台湾人的国家认知上的分歧。很多台湾人觉得应该用台湾，或者中华民国这个名字参加奥运，但是国际现实上是不被允许的，最后结果就是，要不就接受ChineseTaipei，要不就不参加

@Allen-mh3kj 18 күн бұрын

Chinese Taipei的周邊商品我連買都不想買，送我都不想要，但就是一堆台灣人還穿在身上還喜孜孜的。

@KitiaraUthMatarr Ай бұрын

Chinese Taipei literally stands for a Chinese government-in-exile in Taipei. Taiwanese who recognizes and accepts this name reveals that you admit your land is colonized by a foreign country and you are not seeking decolonization.

@GoodCitizen-gm1tl 19 күн бұрын

97% of Taiwanese population are Han Chinese, meanwhile 91% of Mainland Chinese population are Han Chinese. There is even a higher proportion of Han Chinese in Taiwan, can you colonize yourself?

@KitiaraUthMatarr 19 күн бұрын

@@GoodCitizen-gm1tl Switching concepts. By definition, colonization is ruling without sovereignty of particular lands. Via following general MacArthur’s General Order No One, KMT army occupied Taiwan island at 10/25/1945 without consent of Taiwanese people. It is 100% colonization.

@lindsaylori Ай бұрын

Team Taiwan all the way!!!

@taiwansivispacemparabellum9546 Ай бұрын

I’m sick and tired of being chinese taipei. I’d like to be Taiwan.

Ай бұрын

Bro you Chinese like chill the fuck out

@M3.Lorenzo Ай бұрын

So why are you still waiting instead of declaring Taiwan independence today? You can't be called as something if it doesn't even exist in international community as of today....

@lujainavrohom Ай бұрын

If you dislike it, then you can amend the constitution.

@已由寒國人置顶 Ай бұрын

So they must can say Chinese, they are Chinese

@user-oj8mn7po2z 26 күн бұрын

are you sick of reality? because taiwan will always be part of china

@Harbin_east Ай бұрын

外國人怎麼看都不重要，重要的是台灣的憲法是怎麼看待自己的，國際社會政府和組織是怎麼看的台灣的。憲法決定了一個國家的定義，國歌、國徽、國名，國際上看的也是這個，而憲法就是統一憲法，憲法也定義了台灣不是國家，是一個省，聯合國通過了2758號決議，只承認中華人民共和國代表中國，所以台獨不改憲法，只打嘴炮躲在中華民國身後猥瑣

@bravedream Ай бұрын

理解台湾人的困境。问题就是中华和中国都是Chinese 在海外白人根本分不清你说中文长的黄皮肤习俗也像人家根本不在乎

@user-ie6pf6ji6n Ай бұрын

我們就是堂堂正正的中國台灣人

@yihsiangwang9202 Ай бұрын

我也期待有一天用的是台灣

@dainan2291 Ай бұрын

我期待有一天台灣能成為大陸的一個省，這樣我們的運動員可以代表中國出戰，我們同身為中國人也很驕傲自豪

@SGangLee Ай бұрын

統一刻不容緩

@user-df4zu6ex7y Ай бұрын

中華台北還是台灣說實在的只要選手能拿下金牌讓世界看到就可以了，名稱從來也不是運動員追求的，當你拿下獎牌站上頒獎台，台灣自然就會熱搜。以後要怎改反正也是台灣，就像我們不是聯合國會員國，這星球最強國家不就是台灣嗎?內行的都懂，外行的早晚也會懂。

@AramisZhao 28 күн бұрын

这种去中国化恰恰反映了独派内心的自卑和害怕

@hsuehhs1 15 күн бұрын

I wonder what do they think about Asian American movies like Turning Red?

@MrTraveller. Ай бұрын

The international community could join them to raise awareness. Buy doing the same naming style & not showing the other COUNTRIES flags. Like English Ottawa Spanish Madrid Dutch Amsterdam Finish Helsinki Hindi New Delhi Tagalog Manila Bahasa Jakarta People would be confused & it would go viral, raising awareness for Taiwan 🇹🇼 My favorite Country

@HasiahfHasina Ай бұрын

只有一个人有说到重点，，因为入不了联合国嘛。。

@unrealenginedevplus Ай бұрын

I just got the Taiwan Gold card .

@timtogo19 Ай бұрын

Please fight for independence !

@kai849977 Ай бұрын

只要陸委會不裁撤，永遠二岸一家親，繼續中國台北至於說體育跟政治沒關係的，要去看卡提諾新聞～

@user-hb6vs2yz1k Ай бұрын

這個問題不怎麼好我相信99%的台灣人都希望用台灣代表隊的名字下次街訪可以問看看用什麼方法可以讓台灣使用台灣隊參加國際賽事獨立/統一問題也是一樣還用問嗎。當然是獨立但要問看看大家如何贏得獨立或是願意為獨立付出多少代價或者說為了獨立已經貢獻多少資源像是黑熊部隊這個團體超棒。不是只有嘴巴說說。還要身體力行才可以

@zzzz8949 Ай бұрын

用台湾的名字等于自动退出奥运赛事。宣布独立等于被统一。实力决定一切。

@wallowes Ай бұрын

@@zzzz8949 所以不宣布獨立，就可以用Taiwan的名字出國。

@zzzz8949 Ай бұрын

@@wallowes 你用的是ROC的护照，Taiwan是中国的一个地区

@wallowes Ай бұрын

@@zzzz8949 PRC不承認ROC，當然是用Taiwan出國啊，你很矛盾耶。

@zzzz8949 Ай бұрын

@@wallowes 你再好好看看你的护照上写的是中华民国护照还是台湾国护照，中华民国现在除了台湾省还控制福建省一部分呢。全世界没有一个国家承认台湾是个国家，还剩12个承认中华民国的。好歹还有12个呢，就自我矮化了？台湾是中国对一个省的称呼。

@phantomq2799 Ай бұрын

Taiwan is a country

@citylidamj8898 Ай бұрын

But it is not, there’s only ROChina 😅

@cyl6375 Ай бұрын

好啦台灣國憲法是什麼

@muhammadhisyamimaduddin2219 Ай бұрын

Nope, it literally just another China's city with different ideology. Taiwanese ancestors literally came from China Mainland so they share the same language, culture, and stuff.

@唐耗着 Ай бұрын

是的，我认为你的国家应该和台湾建交了

@hongzhongge Ай бұрын

花莲是一个国家，台南是一个国家，忠孝东路也是一个国家

@waylonybm1800 Ай бұрын

华人和亚裔不一样…

@lordsuhan Ай бұрын

I live in Taichung, I am Taichunger, WTF is chinese Taipei😂? If there were a team Chinese taipei, then then who will repesent team taichung, tainan, hualien etc?

@onlonlqqq4528 Ай бұрын

Strongly agreed! We should be represented by the name of Republic of China(Name of this country), instead of anything else, especially misrepresenting ourselves by the name of a certain region, whether it be Chinese Taipei, Chinese New Taipei, Chinese Taoyuan, Chinese Taichung, Chinese Tainan, Chinese Kaohsiung, Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen, Mazu, Lianjiang etc.

@shihuiyang2158 Ай бұрын

I think this should be “Chinese Taiwan”

@ericeric1620 Ай бұрын

so you are promoting taichung's independence from ROC? then you can be Chinese Taichung, got ut retarxd?

@lordsuhan Ай бұрын

@@ericeric1620 u need to get educated and type properly

@ericeric1620 Ай бұрын

@@lordsuhan u said u dun want to be referred to as chinese taipei as u dont live in taipei but taichung. in this case you can be referred to as chinese taichung. but by implying such, you are promoting the separation of taichung from chinese taipei, the generally and internationally acknowledged name for taiwan or ROC. we are to report this to pseudo-president Lai for your treason. very logical rite rextard? and u should know mistyping is to avoid cenxsorxship and obviously u dunno.

@sauravlahiry6951 Ай бұрын

嗨兄弟，酷

@ruirualzhang1513 10 күн бұрын

作为大陆人非小粉红，还是希望中华队参赛，介于不要太独立也不要和中共联系一起的感觉。

@jefflin6007 Ай бұрын

chinese taipei在外國就是中國台北,就是代表中國.

@wallowes Ай бұрын

其實大家也知道就是Taiwan，只是沒人想去惹中國。

@modotex Ай бұрын

用什么名字又怎样呢？还是多拿几块奖牌吧

@unrealenginedevplus Ай бұрын

I am coming to Taiwan in August so the guys you would like to guide me what apps I need to learn how to use for pay. How to find good food places. Please guide me, Thanks.

@V-love630 Ай бұрын

你好付款可以使用信用卡或行動支付不過很多地點現金還是比較方便找路或尋找美食可以問路人或谷歌搜尋（行動支付：線支付、蘋果支付⋯）支付的公司不能使用英文不然會被刪留言請諒解。歡迎你來台灣。

@vivianliu2350 Ай бұрын

🎉 we are Taiwanese , our country’s legal name is Republic of China, initial as Taiwan ( Formosa = beautiful island ) , we are a Democrat country ; Not Communist ( mainland China, people of China ) , 2 different Countries , Taiwan people can vote for president , vice president , Congressmen （women) , senators, mayors , … etc same like USA ; but not communist China . Taiwan got forced to use China -Taipei by communist China stated Taiwan is one of state of mainland China , It is totally wrong !! we have different passport not as mainland China . Two different countries

@kpelarma4795 Ай бұрын

中华民国的合法领土包括大陆和台湾哦同属一中，别打脸😂

@Marsbati Ай бұрын

Bruh…… since when ROC has an initial as Taiwan? LOL😂 you just lie to yourself! Pathetic!

@KitiaraUthMatarr Ай бұрын

If Taiwanese do not like this name, do they have right to change it? If yes, why don’t you act?

@Alex_Gaoo Ай бұрын

如果是一个国家为什么会被另一个国家强迫不能使用台湾呢，别骗自己了，说得再多都没用，知道什么叫无能狂怒吗

@naughtc4713 Ай бұрын

Where is Taiwan Independence Declare, as you said ‘’like USA’’

@yunlinlovecheer Ай бұрын

台灣 +1

@BENTAIWAN557 Ай бұрын

不用Chinese Taipei/選手還是能夠參賽，最重要還是台灣人自我認同Taiwan,5圈旗就是國際難民隊。

@userZW77777 Ай бұрын

我記得Taiwan Plus 是某黨大外宣。

@browndavid8645 Ай бұрын

不贊同

@wii_0576 Ай бұрын

像韩国和朝鲜一样组队参赛

@crystal8537 Ай бұрын

不错， unified Chinese team

@thebrandeechen Ай бұрын

thats Republic of China flag not Taiwan Flag, please make sure of that.

@zeenwong4420 Ай бұрын

But the constitution of taiwan don't think taiwan is a country 😂😂😂😂

@achiwong4020 Ай бұрын

这不是很简单的事，直接宣布独立就行，爱叫什么名字就叫什么名字没人管你。

@yuyanakahira2179 Ай бұрын

Taiwan should nnt be China. It is different country and has different political system. TAIWAN should be TAIWAN （or if this is not possible, at least Farmosa？）！加油台湾❗我愛台湾❗☆

@ddl8094 Ай бұрын

台湾人是世界上唯一一个搞不清自己国号的人群

@pandatom904 Ай бұрын

那你去独立啊怎么不修宪?嘴炮台独!

@shihuiyang2158 Ай бұрын

你们已经被联合国承认了？😂

@xingwang4091 Ай бұрын

It will be Chinese Taiwan forever as long as China exist😂BTW China will always alive

@mshieh70 Ай бұрын

So what taiwan is not an independent country n part of China. No issue here

@akonwong9407 27 күн бұрын

只要宣布獨立世界認同那就可以了

@minjieshum7999 9 күн бұрын

都不知道什么原因我的是笑了😅

@TL243 Ай бұрын

😎❤️🇹🇼‼️it’s Taiwan

@minjieshum7999 9 күн бұрын

一中原则呀～

@dunjiin2271 Ай бұрын

是國民黨當時決定的，共產黨要的是中國台灣。所以中華台北這四個字是礙於國民黨和其支持者的面子，共產黨只是順水推舟。這是當時。現在就是用選手的努力當成永遠都不能改

@jasonmai4771 Ай бұрын

问题很好解决，台湾宣布独立建国，从中国体系独立出来，就像新加坡从马来西亚独立出来一样。。但是唯一问题是肯定打仗。

@wallowes Ай бұрын

實際上跟國家沒兩樣。

@cjxg Ай бұрын

@@wallowes 你覺得沒兩樣，爲什麽不去修改憲法修改國旗，陸委會和兩岸關係條例還存在？

@wallowes Ай бұрын

@@cjxg 因為叫什麼名字，其實不妨礙台灣是個國家的事實啊。

@jamesgao3036 Ай бұрын

@@wallowes 既然没差何必在意中国台北的名号

@wallowes Ай бұрын

@@jamesgao3036 叫什麼名字沒差，只要不被誤認成中國即可。

@hankhon7367 Ай бұрын

希望年輕一代能更多以臺灣名字作為國家主體，可以放棄中華、華人、中華民國等，這些模糊名稱。出國就大方驕傲表示是臺灣人，國家是臺灣，持續每個人都有這樣意識，很快全世界就會認同了。

@zzzz8949 Ай бұрын

很好，台湾省，抢中国代表权才是不能被接受的。

@onlonlqqq4528 Ай бұрын

We should be represented by the name of Republic of China(Name of this country), instead of anything else, especially misrepresenting ourselves by the name of a certain region, whether it be Chinese Taipei, Chinese New Taipei, Chinese Taoyuan, Chinese Taichung, Chinese Tainan, Chinese Kaohsiung, Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen, Mazu, Lianjiang etc.

@ikiiki34 Ай бұрын

例如. 中國台灣台積電中華民國台積電中華民國台灣台積電雖然是台灣人的努力冠夫姓中國收割 🤣

@user-gh6pq8xb6i Ай бұрын

再例如，中华民国台湾，简称中国台湾😊

@hsiu-huitsai5979 Ай бұрын

@@user-gh6pq8xb6i所以中華人民共和國簡稱中共國，一個中國是中華民國，兩國互不隸屬？

@user-gh6pq8xb6i Ай бұрын

@@hsiu-huitsai5979 中华人民共和国简称中国，谁跟你中共国，72年到24年的中国，中华民国简称中国，12年到72年的中国，脑子呢？

@onlonlqqq4528 Ай бұрын

中華民國=中國，沒有收割的問題

@mshieh70 Ай бұрын

Is the west diving china n taiwan.

@minLI-gw6vn Ай бұрын

两岸尚未统一，内战没有结束，若要解释为“打压”，只能说，这是两岸的“宿命” 介绍一下大陆的奥运史：一、1952年第15届奥运会在芬兰的赫尔辛基举行。中国大陆正式接受邀请较晚，只派出了40人的代表团，当代表团到达赫尔辛基时，比赛已接近尾声，只有吴传玉参加了百米仰泳比赛。“中华民国”拒绝出席此届奥运会。二、1954年国际奥委会雅典年会中以23:21的票数承认了中华全国体育总会为中国奥委会，但同时却保留了“中华民国奥委会”，开了在一个国家中承认两个国家奥委会的先例。国际奥委会后来又作出允许这两个奥委会同时参加第16届奥运会的决定，并规定两个代表团使用的名称一个是“台湾中国”，一个是“北京中国”。中国大陆决定不参加1956年在墨尔本举办的奥运会，并于1958年8月19日发出了致国际奥委会的信函，宣布退出奥林匹克运动。三、1952年到1979年间，由于政治上原因，中国没有参加期间的几届奥运会，而中国台北则派队参加。（1971年，中华人民共和国政府已在联合国取代中华民国政府）

@browndavid8645 Ай бұрын

這怎麼會是宿命呢？中國要侵略鄰國台灣，總是早藉口而已。

@minLI-gw6vn Ай бұрын

@@browndavid8645 多了解两岸的真实历史老蒋轰炸上海等沿海城市，封锁台湾海峡（甚至外国船只同样击沉），大陆接近三十年不参加奥运会，受到的“打压”比台湾厉害多了大陆经济上是“惠台”，当然，政治上决不能出现两国中国或一中一台

@jackiehsu1109 Ай бұрын

要怪自己台灣人呀！

@user-jn9qy2ck8x Ай бұрын

chinese taipei在外國人看就是中國台北，老藍人最愛了，或是中國台灣，也很愛，但中華民國roc，英文會跟中共國雷同，歪國人根本分不出來，也會以為是CHINA。最簡單 chinese kung fu =中國武術，沒有外國人覺得是中華功夫所以要改國名，勢必老藍人會反抗到底

@s937610 Ай бұрын

我覺得塔綠班就趕快去正名制憲啦！執政第三屆了，連提案都不敢整天推給在野黨是要笑死誰

@user-jn9qy2ck8x Ай бұрын

@@s937610 還沒提，你都吠成這樣子了，提了，你不適心臟病要發作了

@s937610 Ай бұрын

@@user-jn9qy2ck8x 不會喔！我支持正名制憲就等著看執政黨何時要提結果太孬不敢提，果然只是喊爽的

@wallowes Ай бұрын

@@s937610 提了，你應該會破口大罵，看多了口是心非的老藍男。

@robustashorea4586 Ай бұрын

革命尚未成功，同志仍須努力，加油。👍

@LiChu-do4xc Ай бұрын

中共處心積慮要讓中華民國的國旗變成碎玻璃，這也象徵牠們的五星旗即將變成碎玻璃的命運。感謝對岸的威脅只會讓台灣不會忘記自己要變得更強大。

@2049smilence Ай бұрын

螳臂当车，任何人和物都无法抵挡历史潮流😊

@LiChu-do4xc Ай бұрын

@@2049smilence 你確定你是車而不是螳臂😅😅😅？任何人和物都無法抵擋歷史潮流呀！

@2049smilence Ай бұрын

@@LiChu-do4xc 你以为现在世界为什么动荡?中国崛起要取代美国，美国不甘霸权旁落集结盟友做最后一搏。然而历史潮流不可阻挡，老美的灭亡就在未来二三十年。至于蛙岛，那就是中国征服世界的第一战，十年磨一剑，台湾战争必然是一场完完全全的碾压。

@Alex_Gaoo Ай бұрын

给人一种没有读过书没有受过教育的美，如果台湾都是你这种人那统一就更容易了

@sicheng3723 Ай бұрын

哈哈哈哈哈

@nimaciao7184 28 күн бұрын

既然这么讨厌chinese taipei，不如把taipei去了，改成chinese得了

@addtop76 22 күн бұрын

台灣的政黨目前我覺得基進黨最屌，政治理念是去中化，也支持台派的民進黨，算是融合台灣價值所有優點的政黨，而且沒有貪污的案例，只可惜黨太小了。以民眾黨在國會能佔關鍵少數的成功例子為例，如果基進黨可以像它一樣壯大一點，搞不好可以在國會上跟民進黨聯手，改變台灣的未來，甚至推翻掉國民黨。

@GoodCitizen-gm1tl 19 күн бұрын

你們憲法是怎麽寫的？趕快修憲，還等什麽？

@GoodCitizen-gm1tl 19 күн бұрын

陸委會什麽時候撤銷？不是應該用你們的外交部和中國建交嗎？行政院下轄的陸委會是幾個意思？哈哈哈！

@gordnB Ай бұрын

中華台北是當初國民黨自己改掉從中華民國改到中華台北的，當初因為參賽不允許有兩個中國出現，該死的國名黨「自己」妥協改成「中華台北」。當時的情況是，中國崛起，台灣開始被踢出國際。我33歲，但我為了此名稱讀了很多詳細的資料，才知道一切都是當時的國名黨造的孽。你們可能不知道，初期奧運，台灣是確確實實以「中華民國」、「福爾摩沙」出賽的，而且還有國旗，那時候的台灣，是國際唯一承認的「中國」。我受夠這些被訪問的台灣人了，尤其是那兩位女生，完全搞不清楚狀況，這也顯示大多數台灣人根本不知道自己的國家「台灣」的真正歷史。有夠悲哀。

@leoxu6411 Ай бұрын

国民党当年做的不好，民进党执政前后十几年了，为啥不改呢？你指责国民党前人造孽，你现在又不改，那么是不是也是同谋呢？台湾某些人就是会打嘴炮骂国民党，结果自己啥也不做。四成左右绿营支持者，要是肯踊跃当兵，国军征兵怎么可能缺人？