What The Future Looks Like - UTOPIAN MINIMALISM

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Xandros

Xandros

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@starsofaheartattack6286
@starsofaheartattack6286 Күн бұрын
I think it would be really cool if, when we start colonising space, each planet and moon that gets colonised has it's own aesthetic unique to it's characteristics.
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
That would be sick. I'm sure we'll get themed space habitats haha.
@starsofaheartattack6286
@starsofaheartattack6286 Күн бұрын
@Xandros_Official I was thinking of a sort of redish, sandy middle eastern ambiance for Mars and a minimalistic, aerocity? Not sure how to discribe it, look for Venus.
@Zacharysharkhazard
@Zacharysharkhazard Күн бұрын
@starsofaheartattack6286Mars developing an architectural style reminiscent of middle eastern cultures and a sprinkle of the Roman Empire would be badass. To me, I feel as though Venus is such a crazy harsh environment that the architecture on the surface would be very brutalist and function-over-form, whereas buildings in atmosphere colonies would be more ornate and regal. If we ever get way out there, small colonies on Titan could look akin to Scandinavian viking towns, or even colonial American cities; farther down, its high pressure atmosphere could allow for more creative liberties than Mars.
@TRUMP_WAS_RIGHT_ABOUT_EVRYTHNG
@TRUMP_WAS_RIGHT_ABOUT_EVRYTHNG Күн бұрын
I think we should first colon cleanse the earth before we start on other planets😂
@Holphana
@Holphana Күн бұрын
From religious wars to cultural wars to interplanetary standard wars. The human race everyone! we must agree to a singular decision.
@borninpanas2597
@borninpanas2597 Күн бұрын
man everytime i pick an interest on a niche a video like this pops up like its made just for me lol
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
Haha glad I could help
@TOMORROWSFRIDAY
@TOMORROWSFRIDAY 48 минут бұрын
Nah bro we just are being watched a fed what we search for
@Dogdude2077
@Dogdude2077 Сағат бұрын
I almost knew about everything you talked about. I’m in love with this aesthetic but there’s barely anything still using this style anymore with the exception of Marathon (which I think is going to flop because everyone LOVES live-service extraction shooters). I have played both mirror’s edge games and MAN do I want more and I’m glad SOMEONE finally mentions TRON legacy it’s literally peak fiction plus its my favourite film so idk what to put here but I fricking love this long gone aesthetic.
@Flesh_Wizard
@Flesh_Wizard Күн бұрын
Not digging the neutral white colour palette. Imagine getting flashbanged from several angles just because it's sunny lol
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
lmao valid argument haha
@MidwitObservations
@MidwitObservations Күн бұрын
"My brain is a vibes based economy." This channel is going places. Just don't get to political either direction, and it will stay fun.
@zanderyoung9878
@zanderyoung9878 Күн бұрын
Counter: keep going like this and it will have to get political - and that's good: all art is political. Even this video is already political if you get into the ideologies of design language.
@KaiserV-2
@KaiserV-2 23 сағат бұрын
I disagree, politics are what defines societies, how we live and think. Despite not agreeing with a person's political opinion doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
@MidwitObservations
@MidwitObservations 22 сағат бұрын
@KaiserV-2 i just hate when communists try to say capitalism is stifling human expression, and then try to homogonize everybody into they're "utopia". Then the right says "utopia is impossible". Like it's definitely not impossible. Both of you commenter's see politics as something like the "community discussion" and I see it as tribal conflict. We are one tribe, sometimes voting on where to go or what to do. But often politics devides the human tribe. That's why I was commenting that I like this guy's take. He hit it from both sides like a true enlightened centrist. Anyway I'm just using I different operating definition in this context
@fodinski1
@fodinski1 22 сағат бұрын
Lmao this video WAS POLITICAL. My god people have no media literacy
@KaiserV-2
@KaiserV-2 22 сағат бұрын
@@MidwitObservations politics have a lot of nuance, it's not a black and white issue. We'll probably stay divided for a long time. Many people have radically different views, as this comment section is a perfect example. Most ideologies can't definitively be better than others without having someone disagreeing.
@MegamanNick
@MegamanNick 10 сағат бұрын
Vekta City from Killzone Shadow Fall is another pretty good example for this architectural look! The pearly white monolithic buildings with darkened glass reflecting the world around it, flying cars, neon blue screens and lots of greenery sprinkled in!
@Big-Megabyter
@Big-Megabyter Күн бұрын
We should bring art deco back in my opinion. I'm not sure whether there's an example of futuristic art deco but it seems more like something we could see in the future. It's like when at the start of the 20th century modernism became popular because people were tired of classical vibes, rococo and baroque, being associated with the past, monarchy and such, people are growing increasingly tired of modernism now. There's no place for individuality with those glassy sky towers, it all feels mass produced (starting with individual items such as phones - just smooth chunks of glass), so when the time comes we might see a resurgence of ultradetailed exterior, perhaps somewhat retrofuturistic - that's where art deco with its sleek golden lines and glossy textures, complex geometric shapes comes in. There's a special approach to lighting up the place at night in art deco as well. This style appears in "The Golden Compass" of 2007 and I find it very beautiful. Aurora noir by Tim Razumovsky is another example. It's somewhere in between the classical architecture and modern which still allowes it to look futuristic without the ultrasimplisity and soullessness of the style you described
@DAFLIDMAN
@DAFLIDMAN Күн бұрын
Just discovered this channel and spent the last hour going through the back catalogue, gotta say this is good stuff, subscribe button hit.
@ReallyRealBenMills
@ReallyRealBenMills Күн бұрын
I think that something we need to consider is who we're building for. Utopian Minimalism aims at building for the masses, and by achieving scale by being relatively cheap to build for large numbers of people. So you likely will not see it for individual homes, especially suburban ones, but rather things like mixed use condo/office towers. I think that you'll see see networks of pedestrian bridges and overlooks just above ground level, and tunnels below the streets so that people can commute through these "public" sections of buildings. That reinforces the notion that the built environment is for people, and will encourage less isolation and more community, I think.
@landlubbber
@landlubbber Күн бұрын
Good video in that you conveyed your point well but damn if I don't find the aesthetic incredibly bleak. I find futures in which things are messy and disunified to seem a lot less oppressive - utopias are very totalitarian and all-consuming by nature, which may be an echo of the term literally meaning "no place"
@Flesh_Wizard
@Flesh_Wizard Күн бұрын
"you vill eat ze bugz" vibes
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
Yeah I think I prefer the messier vibes of the Destiny examples specifically because the bit of mess and disunity there makes it feel comfy and prevents the style feeling heavy handed like a lot of the others. At the end of the day - if the residents think the design is bleak and uncomfortable but it's forced on them anyway, it's gotta be a pretty dystopian society.
@landlubbber
@landlubbber Күн бұрын
​@@Xandros_Officialit's definitely a neat enough setting for scifi, but there aren't a whole lot of scifi settings I'd actually want to live in.
@TissueCat
@TissueCat Күн бұрын
If you want a much more colorful vision of what future architecture could look like, you should check out the Neo-Andean style that's taken off in El Alto, Bolivia in the past 20 years.
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
That style's nuts! It's halfway between a Gurren Lagann mech and a house I'd build in Minecraft. Wild!
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 Күн бұрын
Halo Reach appreciation is unfashionably based.
@Holphana
@Holphana Күн бұрын
In Australia we try to colour the top of our cement steps with eye-catching yellow so people don't trip.
@misterpotato427
@misterpotato427 Күн бұрын
What is tha pfp?
@accurategamer7085
@accurategamer7085 3 сағат бұрын
LGBTNAZI?!?
@ToskaOfficial
@ToskaOfficial Күн бұрын
156 views after 1 hour is criminal for such a lovely video. Also, I've adored this style of architecture for a while but the best I could garner is that its a modernized, more human strain of brutalism - or whatever the hell Ayn Rand was trying to get across in the Fountainhead. "Utopian Minimalism" is the perfect name for it. Also, Mirror's Edge is a great example - its absolutely gorgeous. You can get A LOT out of just a few colors and shapes if you execute it well.
@supernova8523
@supernova8523 Күн бұрын
WOOOOOO!!!! NEW XANDROS!!!!!!!! MY WEEK HAS JUST BEEN MADE IMMEASURABLY BETTER!!!!! LETS FUCKING GO!!!!! THE ONLY CHANNEL IN KZbin ON MY PLANE OF INTELLECT!!!!
@guibolinhagamer
@guibolinhagamer Күн бұрын
I don't know if i understood entirely the vibe, but maybe a good-ish real world example of this would be Brasília (capital of Brazil). The city was entirely planned and its buildings were designed by an architet called Oscar Niemeyer. The Buildings are all similar, beeing mostly white with some curved and pointed geometry forms
@hc256
@hc256 Күн бұрын
Neoclassical interior design is the best, no contest. As for architectural style, neoclassical, Stalinist, and "utopian minimalism" are the top contenders imo.
@Josiasday
@Josiasday Күн бұрын
ive been developing my own sci fi world for a while now, this is exactly how i want the cities in one of my factions to look like, im so happy someone finally gave it a name. ive found that the cities in helldivers 2 also match this aesthetic pretty well with the simple colours and smooth shapes
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
Nice! I've somehow still not played Helldivers 2 yet! Looks so fun though. I'll have to get it sometime soon.
@jackturner8472
@jackturner8472 Күн бұрын
@@Xandros_OfficialI waited a year for some reason, get it. It’s so fucking good. It wasn’t game of the year for no reason, i dont even have anything left to unlock and Im still playing. We’re going to be defending mars soon apparently, buy the damn game, we need more soldiers.
@PoundlandPele_1
@PoundlandPele_1 Күн бұрын
Well Professor, I thought we were on for a “what your house on Europa is gonna look like”, but you seem to have produced a complete guide of thinking for what 1st and 2nd year school of architecture students need to contemplate. Not bad for a space addict. 👍🤔🧐😁
@ikarder
@ikarder Күн бұрын
For utopian minimalism if we talking about designs it's kinda corresponds with functionalism, brutalism and soviet constructivism, but that's ofcourse more of a 20th century architect (however it might be considered futuristic in it's time) Also i think there might be a people who REALLY want to live in a medieval village, with wooden roof and stone walls or something and that's really unhinged. However, most of the time people comparing european towns and big skyscraper cities in terms of urbanism, it's about more naturally curving streets, so people can more easily remember where they are just by walking, and a little buildings (like 2-3 floors tall) cus this way you can know your neighbours more, so whole building where you live feels alive. This compared to big cities, where every street is straight and boring, and housing consist of hundreds of apartments where you know 1-2 neighbours by occasion, the rest of the building just like a cold rock or an anthill, which is kinda dystopian and corporative. However this can be okay if all citizens is a modern internet guy who don't want to talk to people and leave apartment only for work or to take a food delivery, you can only care for view from your window in this case.
@nicktyrin4401
@nicktyrin4401 4 сағат бұрын
I think what would be really cool is some sort of solarpunk, but with classical architecture. Intricate detailing on the houses, solar panels on the roofs, etc
@bno6156
@bno6156 Күн бұрын
I think one example of this I like is the citadel from mass effect, I’ve got a big book of all the concept art and the presidium is one of the highlights I love the style of it as well, it really reminds me of old concepts of space stations from the 70’s where the details just pop out the page That is absolutely my ideal future
@stijnjanssens571
@stijnjanssens571 Күн бұрын
a couple other solid examples of this type of style could be star citizen's "New Babbage" and "orison" cities, with both of them beeng quite uniform in design language with a primarily white pallet. Although they do have most detail work (especially in the interiors), but this usually exists more to show the clean industrially made nature of the cities then just beeing decoration for decorations sake. Orison does lean a bit more in to the futuristic solarpunk with it's wide outdoor plaza's and parks. very nice video btw, great to see something else then "how can we bring back classical styles for the 100th time"
@rikuurufu5534
@rikuurufu5534 20 сағат бұрын
This one sparks joy.
@rendarcrow
@rendarcrow Күн бұрын
Brink was so ahead of its time.
@darkXwolf17xyz
@darkXwolf17xyz Күн бұрын
love your content man
@AdrensphrdGaming
@AdrensphrdGaming Күн бұрын
Here in my country (Tunisia) while most of our buildings are either Eastern style or unfinished cement messes we have these outliers in the middle of our cities, not skyscrapers or anything but white sleek, clean kinda futuristic buildings from the type you mentioned, especially in the capital at The Lac 1 and 2 they're not abundant which makes them stand off from the rest of the generic modern stuff but I love their aesthetic and I'm glad you too agree future guy!
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman Күн бұрын
Humans respond well to traditional architecture..
@hc256
@hc256 Күн бұрын
An issue with modern ~ minimalist styles is there's little to no increase in perceived details as one approaches, unlike more traditional styles, which supposedly is psychologically displeasing accourding to studies.
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
Interesting, that would make a lot of sense. Maybe going for minimalism/ modernism from afar but working ornate intricacies into the details up-close would be a sort of best of both worlds.
@efremkGTFO
@efremkGTFO Күн бұрын
how traditional we talking about?
@Wol333
@Wol333 Күн бұрын
I want future architecture to be Solarpunk. Integrated into nature, easily understood, efficient, and meant for human well being.
@josephlloyd9542
@josephlloyd9542 Күн бұрын
Whether marathon turns out to be another dungheap live service game or not, the art style is cool af
@fodinski1
@fodinski1 22 сағат бұрын
You’re incorrect. The future is, in fact, self-built and high density. It kinda already is a significant part, but not the majority of urban space. The vast majority of the world population will live in urban slums like favelas, unless the worlds demography changes dramatically in the incoming years.
@Aurora_Glow1
@Aurora_Glow1 Күн бұрын
Watch some videos with 2020s build houses in DPRK on some non-propaganda channels like DPRK-Explained. I think perfect match.
@tripleb94
@tripleb94 Күн бұрын
I think like, early solar punk is gonna look like shabby and re-used, and late stage solar punk will be sleek and white, with some of those old buildings around as historic landmarks.
@captainclarky5352
@captainclarky5352 Күн бұрын
This aesthetic is likely to take hold on other worlds. The conditions of say the moon or Venus limit the choice of building materials and facades. The Venutian atmosphere having no oxygen means no fire or rust so we might see colossal wooden or papier-mâché structures coated in acid-resistant paint. Unity could be required by the environment. Doubt the default colour would be white though. Lunar ettlements should be painted in rich colours to contrast with the plain Lunar regolith and show off the settlement's wealth
@Exelionmode
@Exelionmode 6 сағат бұрын
I can't believe i just discovered another person that share the same utopian vision
@Boydar
@Boydar Күн бұрын
Reminded me of the new Salesforce train and bus station in San Francisco
@uhhhhh......1680
@uhhhhh......1680 Күн бұрын
I think I get what you're getting at, but I don't think I quite am, but you mentioned something about wanting to cut out all the noise, which is why it's minimalistic, but for me, I do need some noise or else I'll get overwhelmed by the lack of noise. I know this is subjective and stuff, but I may as well put out my own opinion on what I prefer: For me I like variation, I like seeing different styled houses, with clapboards and shingles, or a nice brick building, I like seeing neighborhoods with single family homes and duplexes and small apartments, and I do also love solarpunk, but I don't think I like the minimalist architecture of both futuristic solarpunk nor utopian minimalism (if I'm understanding what you're getting at) because they lack a form of individualism/uniqueness each person or group of people have their own unique tastes that shows on the outside of the building which then adds to the characteristics of the town/city. I will also say that I also don't like modern minimalism because it feels too corporate and lacks that character I love seeing in other buildings not made by giant corporations. Another reason why I like seeing buildings being unique, is that if everyone lives in similar buildings and stuff then there's no real point in visiting another city, unless you're there to see something other than the city itself (like obviously most tourist destinations aren't just a city or town, but you're likely staying at one and may want to explore it) Alright, done rambling, don't really know if that made sense, but it was a good video
@FullCircleStories
@FullCircleStories Күн бұрын
Check out the buildings in a game called Anno 2205, also Sanctum 2
@thesimplicitylifestyle
@thesimplicitylifestyle Күн бұрын
I’m down with the Utopian Minimalism Movement 😎🤖
@jarredeagley1748
@jarredeagley1748 Күн бұрын
I'm definately biased, but Halo's depctions of human cities (both reach and h2/h3odst) are by far my favorite future human aesthetics. That being said, I want to see people mix and match architectural styles in space habitats in particular. Give me catholic gothic stanford torus. Give me Americana O'Neil cylinders, or lunar bowl hab with ancient greek influence or something. You could get some really wild designs
@that_guy1211
@that_guy1211 Күн бұрын
considering human failure is pretty high, we'd be better off in a AI Utopia than humans managing stuff, just lay down get a drink, let the bots handle all the shit that humans do let the bots make your lunch, let the bots massage you, let the bots make movies and series especially tailored to your tastes, let the bots handle science and research, let the bots develop new technologies while humans sit back and relax, that sounds like paradise, doesn't it?
@damonblade3195
@damonblade3195 Күн бұрын
Did you just describe Fruitiger aero? ... For architecture?
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
Honestly maybe lmao
@machineball
@machineball Күн бұрын
One thing that came to my mind and i know this also doesn't quite fit but the city of Panem from the hunger games. What do you think ?
@glowiever
@glowiever Күн бұрын
why do utopians city always depicted that way? see Jacques Franco design, atlantis, pretty similar
@BreadMan96
@BreadMan96 Күн бұрын
The white space station looking moon bases are the coolest Also, Scotland's Real?!
@euanneale4181
@euanneale4181 22 сағат бұрын
Look at star citizen. I think youll like some of the landing zones
@tdanjones
@tdanjones Күн бұрын
Peacock did a Show Not too long ago "Brave New World " Yes, the Soma one. Anyway I think it's the Exact thing you are talking about. The New London in that series is what I was thinking of as you were describing it.
@PUP-v4c
@PUP-v4c Күн бұрын
So tron legacy but white?
@robinschingen6757
@robinschingen6757 Күн бұрын
I think buildings of the future should be flexible. Monuments of today could become the burden of the future wich citys have to constantly plan around. So an building should be easy to recycle or to change into something that is needed.
@jesseteixeira6284
@jesseteixeira6284 6 сағат бұрын
You picked Mirror's Edge? You realize that takes place in a dystopia, no?
@lumpyhumpypowa713
@lumpyhumpypowa713 Күн бұрын
Does Dying Light 2 count solar dystopian
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
It kinda looks that way, right?
@lumpyhumpypowa713
@lumpyhumpypowa713 Күн бұрын
@ I would guess
Күн бұрын
This is called "brutalism" - we tried that in soviet union, and it was dreadful. The only difference is that what you are looking at is "newly built brutalist buildings". It's how it looks, when it is fresh, but architects who adhere to this style do not tend to consider "how will this look in 10 years".
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
Brutilism does look like ass, for sure. I'd say there's a style difference between what I'm meaning and brutalism though. I don't hate concrete as a building material but it does look fucking awful if its used absolutely everywhere. I think there are modern material alternatives that weather more aesthetically. The way brutalism relies on boxy shapes tends to make it look even worse as well, so the human-centric design aspect is super important to consider.
Күн бұрын
@@Xandros_Official sure, concrete is an ugly material. But in the 60s-80s (with the new construction techniques of that time) it was considered the "material of the future". If I had infinite money, I would much prefer Art Nouveau style buildings instead of the modern impersonal steel'n'glass.
@zanderyoung9878
@zanderyoung9878 Күн бұрын
@@Xandros_Official I would say what you call Utopian Minimalism is known as 'Neo-Futurism', pioneered by architects like Zaha Hadid. It's a modern take on the original Futurism which was a movement in the 1910s created by designers like Antonio Sant'Elia. The best (IMO) Neo-Futurist is Santiago Calatrava - highly expressive structure which unlike other Modernists draws a lot from historical sources like Gothic.
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
I think this might be the thing! I guess I'm basically describing Neo-Futurism with some slightly anal optimizations in mind. Nice :)
@bounty_hunter101
@bounty_hunter101 2 сағат бұрын
Wait until he hears I like maximalist buildings. In all honesty, I'm not too fond of utopian minimalism. It comes off as boring without a lot of visual interest per building. As a whole, the structures are pretty, but they don't reall have a lot of individual character. There is rarely a time or place dimension to these structures, they could be built anywhere and occupied by anyone.
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Сағат бұрын
Maximalism: the Katamari Damacy of architecture lol. Nah that's fair, for real-world use you'd probably want to incorporate one or two cultural flourishes in the details just to ground them in a time and place - as you say. I appreciate minimalism just isn't everyone's vibe :)
@Kaze-30u
@Kaze-30u Күн бұрын
My vision for the future is Aristocratic Communism - okay let me explain since it's from perspective of someone who lives in poland so i do see alot of communist architecture so let me explain. I want you to imagine the concrete prefab. then i want you to imagine the beaux arts style but prefabed now i want you to imagine the same style... mass manufactured in concrete big slabs. profit. that is what i WISH it happen but i know it wont. i call it "aristocratic communism" due to the fact lenin was an aristocrat - yes that's true - and because of soviet prefab style allowing to lower down cost of such architecture SIGNIFICANTLY.
@laff__8821
@laff__8821 11 сағат бұрын
Brutalism❤
@ReddwarfIV
@ReddwarfIV Күн бұрын
Medieval stuff looks good because they put effort into making it look good. It wasn't built with a corporation's bottom line in mind. Minimalism is bland and boring. The examples you gave _are_ better than brutalism, but only because concrete starts off looking godawful and gets worse as it ages. It takes artistic vision to make "clutter" aesthetically pleasing.
@KaiserV-2
@KaiserV-2 23 сағат бұрын
Personally, I disagree. I share an opposite perspective, I find fancy and lavish as prestigious and unwelcoming. While brutalism feels like it treats everyone equally, no matter your background. Although I do agree that it doesn't age well, perhaps metal panels would fit better. Also, gray is an underrated color, I don't see why people have such a negative perspective on it. I think it's beautiful, gray slander is way too common, while other colors don't receive any.
@ReddwarfIV
@ReddwarfIV 20 сағат бұрын
@KaiserV-2 Not medieval, but there's a Victorian era sewage pumping station in Crossness, London. It's got the dirtiest job imaginable, but the people who built it made it look _amazing._ It has been compared to a cathedral. Beautiful buildings don't have to be the domain of prestigious uses. But nowadays, a pumping station would just be in a big concrete box or a brick shed. Nothing imaginative about them whatsoever. Many brutalise structures have been made to look better using cladding material on the outside. This usually serves to make them more colourful. It doesn't help the shape of the building, but it does break up the grey boxness. Unfortunately, inadequate materials have often been used. This is what lead to the Grenfell Tower fire getting out of control, resulting in a number if deaths. Grey is not an inherently bad colour, but if _everything_ is grey, that's just depressing. It's like a perpetually overcast sky. It needs to be complimented with other colours to look good.
@KaiserV-2
@KaiserV-2 20 сағат бұрын
@@ReddwarfIV I usually prioritize functionality over decoration, my room is just a bed and a wardrobe. And I'm fine with a uniform color plate, but that's my personal taste. If I were to create a city it would be brutalist-esque but with better materials, but I understand that not everyone enjoys the same taste that I have so it probably wouldn't be a good decision. I just don't like the messy complexity, but if you enjoy that, that's fine too.
@ReddwarfIV
@ReddwarfIV 19 сағат бұрын
@KaiserV-2 If you could make a brutalist structure out of blocks of carved stone, I would probably be interested to see it. Concrete was used because it was much easier to shape however the designer wanted, though. My biggest problem with modern architecture isn't that things like brutalism exist, it's that they're so all-encompassing. The medieval village looks nice because it is _unique._ It is the product of the materials available, the local geography, the local preferences. Go to a different medieval village and these will all be different too. And when we built cities, they too were the product of materials, geography, local preferences. You used to be able to tell where you were just based on how the buildings looked. Nowadays, all the new construction uses the same designs, the same materials, and if geography doesn't cooperate, the geography is changed to suit construction. Modern cities all look the same. The older, distinctive buildings get demolished and have grey boxes or glass spikes or a mass-produced house built in their place. All built for the lowest construction cost.
@KaiserV-2
@KaiserV-2 19 сағат бұрын
@ReddwarfIV I do agree, I'm not a fan of the glass blocks. But I think that stylizing already existing forms or architecture to a certain region is possible. Like giving it regional flare to better fit with its surroundings. Like an Austrian art deco, or Brazilian minimalism. Add a portion of the regional culture to those architectural styles to make it unique.
@ANotSoPopularMan
@ANotSoPopularMan Күн бұрын
Do you understand how strong humanity would be if we set aside our differences and became one unified nation?
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
This is the way.
@ReddwarfIV
@ReddwarfIV Күн бұрын
Set aside our differences. Sure. What culture do you suggest all of humanity should have?
@ANotSoPopularMan
@ANotSoPopularMan Күн бұрын
@@ReddwarfIV People can keep their culture, I'm talking about the bad stuff like racism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc. People just need to know that every culture is okay and should be accepted one way or another. Humanity can't really evolve if everyone is against each other.
@kiefermattern917
@kiefermattern917 Күн бұрын
@@ANotSoPopularMan Some cultures have those negative traits as virtues dumbass. Some cultures are morally superior to others. Cultures aren't just ascetics, they have real benefits and consequences.
@ReddwarfIV
@ReddwarfIV Күн бұрын
@@ANotSoPopularMan Except those things are part of many cultures. Most cultures have something other cultures find distasteful to outright evil. The Aztec human sacrifice was cultural. Was that "okay and should be accepted"? Thinking racism, homophobia and xenophobia are bad is a very recent aspect of Western liberal culture. That's what _you_ consider evil. What you want is for everyone to keep the trappings and aesthetic of their culture while replacing their moral values with liberalism. This is the problem with utopia. We disagree because we have different opinions on what the ideal society would look like.
@combatjeyj6234
@combatjeyj6234 2 күн бұрын
Hopefully we go back to 1800s sandstone looking 💩😁
@Xandros_Official
@Xandros_Official Күн бұрын
That's fair! Maybe I'm just turbo future-brained. The sleeker and shinier the thing is the more I like it 😅
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 Күн бұрын
Rock expensive, Concrete Cheap. Capitalism gonna Capitalism
@kiefermattern917
@kiefermattern917 Күн бұрын
@@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 Not all stone. Some forms of stone are cheaper than concrete. They just aren't as "pretty" as the usual architectural minerals. That's it. Architects won't build with some forms of stone because the kinds of architectural designs that make such stones beautiful aren't "modern" or "original" enough.
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 Күн бұрын
@@kiefermattern917 architecture and structural engineering are actually a lot more complex than “heer is builbing I droo, monies plz” You are given a budget to work with, and a plot of land that in cities, is small. So to make the most of it you need to build tall, fancy rocks aren’t well suited for building skyscrapers. Its way the pyramids are at most as wide as they are tall, and why all those pretty buildings are all pretty short. Steel can bend some before snapping, rocks don’t. Concrete is also so inexpensive for how effective it is at its job that even if Marble were better… you can just make multiple tons of concrete in the time it takes to move a single ton of construction-ready marble into place to be used, and already have the concrete all pouring out and setting in place. You also need to factor in the weight of the structure for both the frame and the foundation. Buildings that are too heavy for the foundation will sink into the ground and eventually topple over and collapse, and if you stress your frame too much… the exact same thing happens. Today you need to factor in electrical equipment, stairs, elevators, pipes for water and sewage, ventilation, all the equipment associated with the pipes and vents, the people and other load on the building while actively in use, the stress from the weather and especially wind, the ease of access for maintenance, proximity to neighboring structures, the local soil, precipitation rates and bedrock composition, and tons of other stuff while also satisfying your customer and staying under your budget’s ceiling. Which is a lot more to factor in than then, before even discussing safety regulations, permitting, how construction affects the local economy and environment the longer it goes on, and other stuff that needs to be hashed out before even putting the first shovel in the dirt. Keeping it simple and cheap while doing the exact same job as well just minus looking pretty saves time, and thus saves money for quite literally the entire city. Some decorations are important… which is why the interior is usually decorated, that’s where all the people are. Im not gonna build a Jungle Jim on my Roof when everyone is gonna be either on my lawn or at the local park. People use the inside of the building, not the outside so the inside is more decorated… so the people using it can appreciate the decor better than spread all your decor budget where most people can’t really see it very well. Its why in the Eastern Bloc Commie Blocks and Brutalism were so popular, that and it was to encourage people to not stay couped up inside all the time. They were so cheap and so easy to build a bunch of barely literate peasants could build 1,500 homes in a few months… many of those Commie Blocks are still standing too, in various states of wear-and-tear to be expected of being left to rot for 30+ years and not meticulously maintained or restored if there is so much as a crack in the ornamentation. They are horribly ugly and drab, but that is not the point of a Krushchovkha, the point is building millions of units of “good enough” quality housing as fast as humanly possible to get people off the streets. Style doesn’t mean much when all you are building are Palaces of Versailles once every few years at best while your competition already fulfilled their contracts and yours 5 times over by stripping functionally unnecessary stuff off the Apartment Complex or Office Tower to make room for more apartments or more offices at a fraction of the cost and time you do. It’s why the fancy stuff is left for the Rich People’s Mansions or for Public Monuments people actually care about. Why would I want a Bugatti when all I do is drive to work and back every day and my Volkswagen Beetle does the same job as well for a fraction of the cost? Same logic. Why waste money and time on making it look all bougie, when you can just get the job done already and make it at least not look like an abandoned factory?
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777
@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 Күн бұрын
@@kiefermattern917 i mean mining the rock, shaping the rock into a usable shape… which all by order, transporting it into place, having special personnel install it properly or finishing processing the rock on site; all that alone isn’t cheap… especially compared to just mixing and dumping a truckload of Concrete over some Rebar and calling it a Day, it also takes much longer for much less progress on yhe project Even for decorative stuff you have to factor in their weight, the stress they cause on the frame and foundations, how they handle both sheer and compressive forces, and so on… so its just easier to minimize that and again, just dump a truckload of concrete and worry about making it look better later. You have both a deadline and a budget for every step of the process of designing, building, furnishing, and opening a building plus you have to account for a lot more stuff adding weight and stress to the frame. The longer your take the less money you make, the more money the boss spends, and the longer your slow down the surrounding economy. Its why there’s 1 Winter Palace or 1 Kremlin in Russia, but hundreds of thousands of Commie Blocks, not counting all buildings that aren’t purely residential. Commie Blocks are the definition of, just pouring concrete over rebar and walking away, barely literate peasants could assemble housing for thousands of people extremely quickly and very cheaply. Great for a recently war-torn, already underdeveloped but rapidly industrializing country. It’s more complicated than you are saying, a lot more.
@neptunianman
@neptunianman Күн бұрын
globohomo, as far as the eye can see
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