What To Expect From Elden Ring "Shadow of the Erdtree" DLC? | Asmongold Reacts

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[@robertstimmel1100]

Vaati has always been great, but he's really stepped up his production values since the Elden Ring release. He's churning out videos much slower, but they are all so well-made now. Every video that he puts out is must-watch content for me.

[@OlExtraRegularBass]

He's got a team of 'tubers.

[@Jidonse]

It’s easy when you use other people’s research

[@sebastianb.3978]

​@@JidonseFunny how a bunch of people said that over the years (myself included, don't worry, we were all smartasses in our youth), yet 1. they still watch Vaati's videos and 2. if it was so easy, why, instead of blabbing about how easy it is to make his content, why don't you do and prove your point? We both know the answer; because it's not easy, and definitely not as easy as talking shit.

[@groovydespairgod5190]

@@sebastianb.3978it is easy look at the amount of lore channels that imploded with Elden ring all with shit theories I was about to make some too but I was late to the party

[@gserendipity]

@@groovydespairgod5190 You'd still be inferior to Vaati's videos

[@SoundBubble]

Goddamn, Asmon looks 10 years younger with his hair cut, like he's about to make a WoW guide.

[@SoundBubble]

@@Donovarkhallum really? Did he just put his hair back then? Can't really see it on the video

[@xianeli8473]

@@SoundBubble he put it in a ponytail

[@Chronon88]

@@xianeli8473 Ooh, that still works great! Looks so much better now ^_^

[@razz5841]

@@Donovarkhallum even if its not a cut, it should give him an idea that shorter hair is better at hiding receding hairline instead of long greasy hair weighting everything down and revealing your receding hairline

[@partytimezombies]

I think he looks fine with his hair down, but i like the change up def looking sharp.

[@mastery7901]

If it is Miquella then I think the DLC 'entrance' is by defeating Mohg and then interacting with the egg.

[@CataclysmDM]

Yeah. Or, a new npc pops up after you kill Mohg and asks for your help.

[@yewtewbstew547]

That would be a good spot for it yeah.

[@SCDJMU]

*then

[@Rezuvious]

If they wanna maximize DLC sales they should put it elsewhere. If steam achievments are any indication of success an overwhelming majority of people wouldn't be able to do the DLC if it required beating Mohg.

[@lerchomat]

Pretty sure we need to touch Miquellas hand to enter the DLC just like we did with Gaels hand to reach the painted world

[@heron619]

If Torrent is a spirit like the summons Asmon refused to use during his playthrough. Does that mean every boss he fought using Torrent he was technically cheating by his standarts?

[@heron619]

@@Ayuima69 I know I was just trolling.

[@xLionsxxSmithyx]

​@@Ayuima69 He's like summoning finger maiden therolina.

[@chanic4621]

I like Vati but my god has he gotten a lot wrong about Elden Ring. I still can’t believe he said the twins were born AFTER the shattering.

[@heron619]

@@chanic4621 I think he said that in one of the very first lore videos he made when Elden Ring just came out, so I think mistakes like those are bound to happen when you rush to get a video out before everybody else. At least he acknowledges his mistakes tho.

[@jamesa862]

Makes you think, when was Torrent not only a huge convenience but necessary to use? I know you can beat all dragons by foot but the Torrent makes it so much easier. Any spring jumps that is the only way?

[@bl0ots]

Another thing about godwyn’s death root corrupting the erdtree is that Godwyn’s body and the deathroot itself is in the roots of the erdtree, (deep root depths) so it’s definitely very possible

[@skooby95]

Funny that you say that, I was just mucking around in deeproot depths going to get a prince of death staff. On the way to the staff there is what I presume to be an elevator with no pressure plate

[@mojoboingo1744]

It's entirely possible to miss that interaction with Ranni. Happened to me first playthrough.

[@GraphixHurricane]

Yep. Same. Ive been wondering if my game was scuffed

[@kronho25]

one other thing that confirm that we will go in a sort of afterlife/dream world is that the landscape seems a lot similar to the Champs Elysees and i think we initially will help Miquella but at the end when we will go out from the dream world togheter he will found himself in a corrupted body (for Mogh), go crazy and fight us

[@PTLANS]

My guess is that the dark tree is either an otherworld or death reflection of the Erdtree. Basically the death growth has almost consumed the Erdtree like a choking vine.

[@garytopping1174]

The deathroot thing makes a lot of sense especially if the roots crawled up through deep root depths. It's ridiculously close to being directly under the erdtree on the map. Noticed it yesterday

[@acenthehole8952]

I think it's vaati or smoughtown that does a video about cut content and miquella being st Trina but part of the cut content was a side quest or something similar where you would enter miquellas dream thru another cut npc so that's what I'm leaning towards for the setting of the dlc

[@saltminer4429]

Commander Naill/o Neil both also summon using spirit bells and they serve miquella and meliania. That is also a hint to who was torrents original owner

[@blackbicgaming4852]

What if it's about the Haligtree? What if "Shadow of the Erdtree" is the Haligtree when Miquella first made it. Cuz if you look, the tree branches out in weird ways that the Erdtree doesn't. I mean, the Haligtree even needed Braces to keep itself upright.

[@colinnixon7739]

Shadow might be a metaphors yeah

[@rogeez579]

If the Erdtree has roots all over the Lands Between, and Godwyn corrupted those roots, spreading his ghastly face across them, it would make sense that Miquellas haligtree was affected a lot worse. Maybe we're gonna get the death-ified version of what we see

[@kelvinsbowties]

It would be sick if we can choose who we would want to assist between Godwyn or Miquella and have separate covenants resulting in different quest lines, bosses, etc…

[@yimwee2401]

Bringing back covenants would honestly be so sick

[@KleptomaniacJames]

@@HH-hd7nd 1) I'm pretty sure Fortissax never stopped fighting for Godwyn 2) Godwyn, the person, is dead. Miquella and what passes for Godwyn are very much opposed, as we can see in the golden epitaph "O brother, lord brother, please die a true death."

[@GigaMoth]

I took one look at the trailer thumbnail and thought Miquela. For a character so integral and yet so little known, it makes complete sense that the DLC will heavily feature Miquela and his relationship with Torrent and the player.

[@scallahan1294]

You could say volcano manor and the beast clergyman are both giving covenent rewards and volcano manor is almost pvp based just ai invasions instead but I get there should be rewards for the real pvp too

[@kam_3953]

Miquella obviously. Another use for his needle. Whatever relationship he has with Godwyn, Ranni and Melina. Great Runes from him and Ranni, however we can get them especially if the latter is on the moon itself apparently. More Fenzy and Death weaponry and spells. Fighting an outer God via a dream ala Bloodborne.

[@Grim_and_Proper]

I'm leaning towards the spirit realm being the main setting of the expansion. It ties into Miquella's abilities, the Helphen tree guiding spirits of the dead and Godwyn the Golden whose soul is one of said spirits.

[@Gamer36046]

I've always felt that the mountain top of the giants was almost like a "interconnection" between the physical world and the spirit world, with the abundant number of spirits roaming and even growing as trees. Seeing all these other spirit tombstones and wheat, this is only solidifying that for me.

[@yurilopes420]

​@@Gamer36046 bro wtf i had that theory as well a couple days ago. someone was complaining about the difficulty spike after morgott as well as the increased linearity and reduced exploration of the mountaintops and i mentioned that that area, forbidden lands, mountaintops, farum azula, etc, is not really in the same vein as the rest of the map. shit's not supposed to be there and it does indeed feel like a limbo

[@tomkuzik4908]

Holy fuckin shit the depth in which the video went with the lore blew my fuckin mind away. Sometimes I gotta play games slower and take time to appreciate all the little stuff I miss or don't observe or don't care to take time to look for just insanely beautiful how deserving this game is for game of the year. FUCK!!! 🙌

[@PinkTuskedMammoth]

Hlephens steeple goes great along side the moonlight greatsword as a powerstance

[@nathanlaleff4273]

I feel like an interesting thing that they could do is make a way to advance the basic summons into the advanced tier.

[@ManWithoutThePants]

This is just speculation and we don't have much information about it, but I think he has put the hair in ponytail. There aren't statues from Asmon from behind in his current state, but in this cut scene, if you looks closely, it seems that he is touching ponytail of his hair at 22:53. We will be get more information how the story of Asmon's hair goes.

[@zimpelskinsk]

This tree to me seems exactly like Miquella's tree, except that his is broken, and this one seems to be breaking. Considering all that it seems to me it will be about his tree dying

[@wowitsfrostygames155]

I think my favorite thing about this, is in a way, Miquella is the real main character of this story. He’s not just Malenias brother he has a presence damn near everywhere in this game. And only ever for good reasons. I’m sure Ranni also has good intentions with her order, but Miquella seems like the only truly pure character. Cant wait to learn more about him. Not even Joking he’s basically the Jesus of Elden ring.

[@Shimazakii]

as Malenia said, he is the most fearsome empyrean. can't wait to get to know him

[@ThatTempesTGuy]

Is this a joke? Lol this game has 0 story, hogwarts is better than this hack and slash garbage 😆 TaRniShEd

[@magicandmace-1151]

needs more turtle pope

[@mneech609]

@@ThatTempesTGuy Your parents must be very proud of you.

[@legobricknator]

@@ThatTempesTGuy low level bait As low as deez nuts are laying on your throat

[@alexandermanjarres2056]

I was hoping he would make a video on the image. Actually some really good points.

[@cooperblackwell1392]

Personally I love the theory that miquella is actually nowhere near as benevolent as all the descriptions suggest because he had this uncanny ability to make people adore him. Like magically charm even gods into believing he could do no wrong

[@matjakobs8612]

I hope we see some new locations on the map.

[@kaosukun02]

Other game dev release an image : Cool! Waiting for the upcoming update. Fromsoft release a single image : WHAT IS THE LORE!!

[@4D0R1NGF4N]

Honestly such a beautiful picture, I want this hanging up on my wall. Fr.

[@harrys2331]

Elden ring lore is so insanely sophisticated. I can't believe they crafted a world with lore so complex without any hand holding as to what the lore actually is.

[@ArtisticScorpio]

I literally thought it was an older video because of the cut. Looking great dude

[@beerexpert1057]

My biggest conundrum is if I should start the DLC with my decked out full level character parked at the end of the game. Start a New Game Plus with him or continue the game on my level 50 character and do the DLC on him.

[@dustingomez7590]

Syrobe has a good take on the DLC. He also did it first. Not to take anything away from Vaati mind you, he’s an absolute legend. It’s understandable that people tend to default to vaati, it’s just there are other really good Soulsbourne creators out here too.

[@oohbootiga7649]

What I'm expecting? I'd like to see added spells to existing magic and incantation schools. I'd also like to see maybe two to four new magic/incantation schools and balance changes to some of the old spells. Balance to PvP would also be icing on the cake. Howl of Shabriri could use a huge range increase as well as ALL of the mist spells, and some of the AOEs In the game like Zamor ice storm. More ice lightning spells would be cool, pun intended. Lightning should have a chance to stun as well. Fire should have a small burn damage effect that ticks after initial damage. Thops barrier, and parry skills need an increased window to parry for PvP. Lower the damage on a crit from parry in PvP. Lower damage in PvP in general except on the hardest, slowest hitting weapons in the game. A new area, couple weapons and bosses. Some decent ashes of war as well. Fire needs better stuff for sure. Make all of the stealth talismans better and same with the Sellian spell "unseen form". Unseen form should be taken out of stealth only when being hit by spells or attacks, or after casting a spell, or attacking. Law of regression should also be a direct counter to this, obviously. The added feature to player customization to keep and change any alterations you've earned. (Dragon eyes, bloody eyes, frenzied flame eyes and burns.) Maybe add some new ones? I'd also like to keep them after a playthrough. A couple of new hairstyles. Make Death blight actually usable. Even in PVE. Please fix Eclipse shotel; It's such a cool weapon that needs to be blight-worthy. A fifth talisman slot. New talismans as well. Talisman changes. The affinity resistance talismans for example should actually be a direct counter to dragon breath affinities because if you didn't know, that's how you balance that. Couple new quests. With rewards. Different horse skins. Imagine a night cavalry mount, or Radahn's horse, or maybe just a regular horse. Maybe even some unexpected mount from the lands between. The royal remains armor set, and Icon shield should give back health based on health percentage. The health given back at this time is vastly too low. It's not even noticable. Make Bows, and torches better in general. Make Sleep, Scarlett rot, and poison better in PvP. Scorpion's stinger dagger needs to be way better on its ash of war. Make ALL the legendary armaments actually feel legendary. Basically, I just want them to fix their base game, and add new stuff. It's really frustrating seeing all these awesome spells, and weapons in the game and only like 30% of them ever see use. Dual spears, magic, poise, and blood builds should not be the only viable options in PvP. Update the meta so everything is good in its own right.

[@shaunconnally4794]

Dude you gotta react to his Elden ring series, the flame of frenzy one is beautiful

[@shaunconnally4794]

@@miorioff wait when on stream?

[@tempest7659]

​@@shaunconnally4794 nope, he watched 'em on his own. he showed vaati's channel when he reacted to the news of elden ring's dlc and he watched all of 'em so he's pretty up to date with the lore, methinks

[@shaunconnally4794]

@@tempest7659 ok then

[@lemonlefleur6236]

Quite a bit late, but I want to officially put it down here that I’m fairly confident in those three wolves being the Shadows for Miquella. Similar to how Ranni has Blaidd, the Empyrean Miquella could have had a Shadow Servant and I like to think that his was split into three weaker messenger servants since he already had a capable guardian in his sister.

[@zodiac909]

No matter how many times I watch a Vaati explanation, I always end up more confused than I was before.

[@NOFOCKYOU]

Pretty sure this means Miquella is going to be summon spammer and probably will have like 3 phases. Also I would not be surprised if u have to fight the 3 wolves Sif style 3v1 as a preceding fight to Miquella or as one of his phases. Melena I think could maybe get a Freya type of fight in dlc aswell from what people mined before. I just really hope the DLC lives up to the difficulty and creativity increase that all the other souls DLC's had.

[@jasonbelcho8609]

Miquella will definitely not be a boss fight. Maybe Godwyn

[@Miriam_J_]

​@@jasonbelcho8609 He has a cut boss weapon, which heavily implies they wanted to make him a bossfight. I wouldn't be surprised if they finished the job since there's gotta already be some assets made for his moveset, it'd be a shame if all that easily reworkable content got thrown out.

[@liamtjarnlund1023]

imo the problem with it being the deathroot and this is after is 1. there are no minor erdtrees around. and 2. the erdtree doesnt have any sap anymore. there are hints to the fact that only the ones who can see grace can see the erdtree like we can and maybe this is what it really looks like but its disguising itself, this could be back in the day at the start of the age of abundance, hence all the wheat n shit. the fact that the roots are gone from the elden ring might be because of the event we are now seeing.

[@nathanielbrandenburg4548]

Dude this guys videos are soo good. His deep dives on lore are so nice

[@jacklafferty6654]

And his voice is so calming

[@yimwee2401]

You should check out hawkshaw as well, very similar style of videos but much more specific.

[@HouseDagothCultist]

@@yimwee2401 Hawkshaw work is great, but his voice gets unberable after about 10 minutes. Great writer, not made for narration

[@lost_witness_8495]

Vaati is definitely a top tier lore content creator. A few others I really like are Smoughtown for his longer lore videos and the up and coming Miss Chalice, her videos are of a similar tone to Vaati's, really chilled out voice would love to see a collaboration. 👍

[@oduinn7948]

Plus her cosplay is..... Nice.

[@lost_witness_8495]

Hmm yes that too.. 😂

[@DaniGerman1499]

Tarnished Archeology is super good too

[@colinnixon7739]

Im gonna go on record and say i think they might be combining multiple dlcs into one. They might have had planend for multiple but realized thats not possible timeline wise. Thats why its taking so long

[@lexmortis5722]

I think the dlc will happen in a sort of "land of golden reeds", basically agyptien afterlife, cause St Trina and Undead Godwyn have lots to do with ghosts and the dead. Miquella is on the verge of death, as his flower items tell.

[@yodayoda4976]

in one frame in front of the horse/goat there looks to be a spectre of a person staring at that first broken castle to the right

[@Mikey-zj8bn]

I wouldn't keep your hopes up for this year I would imagine they would want armored core to come out first, so I'm guessing December or sometime next year

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

I watched Ratatoskr video and I agree that FromSoftware would probably focus on finishing Armored Core 6, and then developing the DLC for Elden Ring. Because they would not probably like that the public's attention (and money) to be divided between both games in a close period of time.

[@soedak4037]

Haircut looks good Asmonbald

[@michaeldeanleonardo4621]

If one Torrent can be made, then another can be made. The pictures make it look like your looking south from above the original map. That would make it the Haligtree with the Erdtree trying to regrow and kill the Haligtree. I believe, becoming Elden Lord makes all things start anew. That would include the Original Golden Lord and his children.

[@TylerRockwood]

The combover is strong with this one.

[@Lea-ng3rb]

Thought I'd clicked on an old video by mistake, love the hair dude really suits you!

[@anthonymachado3248]

Personally I believe that dlc is gonna some sort of prequel probably leading up to godwins death and the shattering starting off our story in elden ring?? Makes more sense to me since miquella is featured in it and the possibility of Godwin being in it too

[@Godeias]

The best breakdown of this picture than any other SoulsTuber! This is why we love you Vaati! Also... *Knowing Asmond put his hair in a bun, while everyone thinks he got a haircut*

[@YourAscha]

And torrent is basically a kelpie like a water spirit related to the ancestral spirit bosses we fight

[@TheFallingFlamingo]

Coming back now, I think the screenshot might be showing a future in the lands between after the events of the frenzied flames ending. We could be seeing a recently awakened Miquela, who either crafted a new whistle for Torrent or found the discarded one at the base of the Erdtree. The ash from the burning tree could have covered the landscape, hiding away the previous landscape and supplying fertile grounds for new plants to grow.

[@smilmultimod8603]

What if its like the painted realm from Dark Souls?? Itd make sense because theres quite a few painters around the map

[@alexizmontalbo1627]

YOOOO THATS CRAZY I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING I WAS MISSING

[@CBATOTHINKOFANAME1]

Bro you are looking fresh with the haircut, love it

[@joshsperry3536]

I truthfully hope they add the penetrator armor set from demon souls in the dlc or the iron dragonslayer armor from dark souls 3. I'm truly disappointed that there's not many heavy armor sets for tank builds

[@yunkinto]

My theory right now is that miquella somehow will use the haligtree to wrap it around the erdtree and suck all the life from it (which it has due to souls of dead people going to the erdtree before being reborn) to revive godwyn

[@crash1108]

I have 3 guesses all dealing with Miquella, I feel like the DLC will either be directly in the past before the Erd tree with Miquella, or it wont be directly in the past more like Bloodborne and the old hunters where its like a dream sequence OF the past but we directly interact with Miquella. Last theory is it is just in the future after our rise as lord destroyed the land and on our journey we freed Miquella via Mohg and the DLC centers around him coming back

[@SocietyKilledTheUnicorn]

A prequel would make sense with elden ring 2 being a thing. But if the dlc is a prequel, what about my second character I just best the game with so I don't have to play the dlc on new game plus. I feel like the dlc will be much too hard if I play it on ng+

[@sneekmuch]

I wish the sky of whatever ending you had was present during actual gameplay. And if it was the Frenzy ending everything looked burned like the smoldering church

[@MegaThefuture]

This game is a masterpiece, looks like art that you would see in the Louvre

[@paisano6830]

​@@emiami458 ye

[@GrouchyTerror]

What if the dlc is in the past and you help Miquella with whatever is going on and that's why in the beginning of the game Torrent comes to you? Maybe I'm just missing something.

[@reign1594]

Isn't miquella able to alter reality with the trees' power? Maybe he can recreate godwyns soul

[@gainingsomeirlxp1897]

Erdtree is a parasite sent by the greater will. Miquella wanted to make his own erdtree, watering it with his own blood, however it did not work out as the tree didn't flourish. Hence, the name: *Shadow* of the erdtree.

[@craigpettifer8568]

Maybe its the husk of the burnt erdtree and its weeping golden sap of renewal

[@CrookGX]

Looking fresh, Zack! No sarcasm, as someone who lets his hair get too long before I finally cut it, I commend you.

[@ZebraKatzWhereItsAt]

Its in a bun, not cut lol

[@rollzmoist5061]

his miquella video is so good i learned so much from it, it's very interesting especially with the saint trina side of it

[@silver07bolt]

I still think From soft could easily pull off a Cosmere type scenario and have these games just taking places in different realms or planets

[@hoang2312]

Godwyn basically "glitched" the Erd Tree because now that his soul (like his profile data) is dead and gone, the Erd Tree could not successfully resurrect him and kept on creating bad copies of him throughout the whole Lands Between

[@garethwillis]

I wish fighting cowboy got more recognition. His guides and walk through of all the souls games have helped literally millions of people get through them but unfortunately I never his name being mentioned.

[@tarikkhabouiz9019]

The goat ❤❤❤

[@joshuawilliams4314]

Wouldn’t play without his vids as the games just too big to find everything

[@KDoodleNoodle99]

Cowboy is an original, even if we don’t talk as much about him everyone knows who he is.

[@bowley4]

“It’s not bill the janitor” reminds me of the part in Jedi Survivor when you have to fight “Rick, the door technician” Lolol and he gets a huge health bar and then dies in one hit.

[@illuminatin9335]

I think the spirts we see where all eldins and are going to help him

[@Agapewest]

It looks like they fused the Erdtree back together... by some new Elden Ring cabal that inverts the whole story line.

[@toddhoward5555]

Godwyn corrupting the Erdtree is such poetic and beautiful irony. The old great tree, sapping one of the golden children's decaying body's life force, to re-grow and overtake the Erdtree.

[@MyNoSkips]

I had always guess the dlc would be miquela but I had no idea what they were going to do with him. :)

[@kompott_addict]

When there is light, there will be shadow. Fromsoft likes to play with words

[@rambokills2750]

When I saw that screenshot, i immediately thought of Miguela, so far Merika I'd completely dead

[@stickyrubb]

The haircut looks good Zack

[@Balloonbot]

He must've paid good money for that, because the stylist did very well with what he has left up there.

[@DREADDWELLER]

He didn't cut his hair, it's just tied back. He definitely should tho imo

[@Balloonbot]

@@DREADDWELLER Oh really? Ok well, he should take a photo of his front profile and take it to a stylist. "Do this without the ponytail"

[@edwon1]

"Zack"🫡

[@stockdoc9384]

Gay 😂😂

[@Dracobyte]

While the DLC may launch next year (due to FromSoftware focuding on finishing Armored Core 6), I can bet we will getting a huge expansion to Elden Ring.

[@sxfrr]

Damn just noticed asmons new cut, looking fresh man 👍🏼

[@Lampaluile]

After really seeing every theory outhere I think it's an underworld and in this underworld the influence of the prince of death is taking over just like he's saying in this video

[@zeilix167]

this must be connected to that back place of mohg palace

[@lee-vancastillo3077]

Do you think Rykard can be part of it too cause when we fight him and respawn he is boss arena he is still somewhat alive and he is referred as immortal as well

[@doxthafox1138]

VaatiVidya, what a legend. I couldn't wait for his video breakdown of the expansion tease.

[@nmikk10]

Spoilers for berserk: the stone like objects with holes in the wheat fields look a lot like the stones Guts and co find on elfhelm that act as a barrier and a graveyard for the island

[@birdperson6294]

VaatiVidya is the guy when it comes to these lore videos for sure! Glad i stuck around and watched to hear that because ive been keeping an eye on him for awhile! He makes amazing videos and I hope he continues to do so.

[@TenderRat9000]

Ziostorm made a similar video that goes in deeper for the dlc

[@Yumpa2k]

Guys he tied his hair like a manbun, he didn't have a haircut 🤣

[@mr.e2643]

My head canon for the 6th archstone in demons souls is since it leads to the land of giants and was broken it would have literally lead to lordran

[@jeffphisher3801]

Maybe the erdtree is black in the image cuz like tarnished archeologist proposed the erdtree was burned a time before we do

[@MrGinga85]

Nice hair, when is the cata gold making guide coming out?

[@JustWatchingMaybeIDK-jx8ug]

Godwyn is definitely gonna play a part.

[@theum2138]

Asmon just looked 5 years younger after a haircut

[@HXXXXWXXN]

Not a haircut, he put it in a bun

[@leavlas]

Doesnt anyone think it might be in the past and we're being jebaited. It looks like another tree is destroying the Erdtree, but what if its the other way around and its depicting the Erdtree piercing the old tree that was before and leaking the golden sap to weaken the other tree , might it be the crucible or whatever. And its not how it looks like in the picture.

[@berzerkinggodzilla2511]

well we've explored all we can of the land betweens and now its time for the land of the forgotten with all these graves

[@dullededge1395]

i imagine this is a ds1 sif situation. we travel to the past with out torrent meaning we start the dlc without him we travel we meet miquelle he lends us the torrent from the past and that explains why torrent chooses us in the future

[@arshaanjaved1044]

I really hope we get some sort of development between malenia miquella and mohg

[@jeffphisher3801]

There's more giant tombstones in leyndell as well