What Was Jacob Thinking? | Parshat Vayeshev | Into The Verse Podcast

[@ellen-yy3oc]

Brilliant. So meaningful.Well done.

[@derrickgonsalves5026]

Thank you both for the explanation and the parallels! Love you both!

[@nathanperez5710]

Thank you guys for having this conversations accessible

[@glenanleitner2606]

Thank you

[@100Victory]

Love it ❤! I see so many parallels! To Abraham and to why is happening in Israel!

[@rebecca4281]

WOW! I just applied this concept to what's going on between Israel and the Palestinians. The Palestinians are my misplacing their anger, which should be on Hamas who is actually oppressing them, not Israel

[@traceye9920]

Seems like there is also a beginning tension between Jacob and Joseph,just before he sends him off as Jacob rebuked him about saying that he and his wife would bow to him.

[@SeanRhoadesChristopher]

The same holds for many of us! Our beef is not with the person who tends to receive the brunt of our anger, but with HaShem! We cause trauma to others without self reflection. We must make efforts to reconcile with HaShem! What acts of kindnesses can we give, to repair our relationship with someone who needs nothing, since all things belong to him? 1Sam 15.22-23; Psalm 40, 50, Isa 1.2-20; 58; Pro 3.27-35; 24.8-14; 25.20-22; Lev 19.10,33-34; 24.17-23; Num 15.14-16; Dan 9;Ex 22.22-24

[@davidpritchett855]

Something I was kinda surprised didn't come up is that later when they enter into the promised land the Reubenites were considered great herdsmen and were therefore the caretakers of the oxen further supporting this parallel. Being someone who was passionate about cattle and sheep Reuben had a better connection to the situation and understood that the proper thing to do was to send the ox back to where it came from. I have additionally heard the interpretation that the brothers were being rebellious against Jacob when they took the flocks from shechem where they were told to graze. I could potentially see this as maybe the expectation was that if they encountered Joseph in shechem where they were supposed to be that somehow this may have affected or changed the interaction they had. This could have been Jacob recalling how his reunion with Esau played out. Esau saw him from afar and they ran to each other, embraced and made up despite the conflict they had regarding how their parents favored one vs the other. Additionally Joseph and Benjamin were the only sons of Leah who Jacob likely viewed as his only true wife, Rachel and the hand maidens were just other women he had to be with for him to have his family. I'm sure that this fomented a serious divide between Joseph and Benjamin and all the other brothers.

[@GlennBilkis]

I think the foreshadowing of Christ is brilliantly displayed in this story. Joseph had the two dreams that his brothers and even parents would bow before him. The dreams represented the heavens and the earth. (Jesus in Mathew’s gospel telling us all authority in heaven and earth has been given to him.) Josoph was robbed with a coat by his father. Think of how many instances prior to this story had someone either given a garment or someone grasping for a garment. The garment is a symbol of authority. Jacob is given authority by his father over his brothers and they hate him for that. They take his coat and leave him for dead. Without complaint, Joseph goes through trials and is eventually given the second highest seat of authority in the world with only Pharaoh above. He is given this authority and the brothers do come and bow before home. I can’t help but think of Jesus who came to his people but they rejected His authority. The Roman soldiers fought over His garments. I can’t help but believe that as all of creation comes under the rule of Christ but the end Israel to will finally kneel.

[@shilohmuse]

Awful, too modernist

[@cesarioserrato5306]

The brothers did have a problem with yosef, he is the one who had the 2 dreams saying that the older brothers would bow down to him and he said it more than once and that really bothered them and they even said that here comes the dreamer. So they weren't talking about the father. Yosef also says heneini, the first time that shows up is when Abraham says that to Hashem during the akeidah