What was Your First Meme? | GTA 5

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[@NWRefund]

The folks in Jonestown did NOT drink Kool Aid. They drank Flavoraid, which is like off-brand Kool Aid. He didn’t even poison them with the good stuff.

[@lynettebr]

I think the heavens gate people drank kool aid

[@khaldrakon]

​@@lynettebr Heaven's Gate mixed their stuff with apple sauce and pudding

[@andrecarpenter2432]

Pudding? Also wouldn’t the heat for the apple sauce render the poison inert?

[@sebcw1204]

@@andrecarpenter2432 i'm sure they considered the delivery method and it's effects. cults are very thorough, calculating, and surprisingly sophisticated when it comes to inflicting misery.

[@ReunionMana]

@@andrecarpenter2432 who the fuck heats apple sauce

[@adamcharman8726]

Wow Ben really tickled Rhythian in this one huh. It was a solid joke response to a dutch guy trying to tell a load of british people that they call plasters band-aids

[@KingKobra98]

He got him again with the content joke about Nilsey

[@zun-viik]

It wasn't awful It was convoluted

[@APaulB1237]

As an American I'm still astounded that they call band-aid "bandages" "plasters" lol

[@adamcharman8726]

@@APaulB1237 it makes perfect sense when you know it's the shortened form of our brand name Elastoplast. At least we didn't go with elastos!

[@APaulB1237]

@@adamcharman8726 lmao that's true! 😂

[@Viprus]

I vote to rename Hook and Loop strips (Velcro) to "Grabby Fabric", or "Grabric" for short.

[@Erhannis]

Oooh, "grabric", nice

[@ZyroShadowPony]

Way more marketable than hook and loop strips

[@fishpop]

Grabric is marketable though it makes me think of a LEGO or Duplo building block toy.

[@sebcw1204]

i'm old enough to have used floppy disks, but young enough to have needed it explained to me why those rigid things were called "floppy".

[@CarnieGamer]

I already knew Velcro is actually "hook and loop fastener". I'd imagine most people don't though. I'm fascinated by the difference between US and UK English. The Band-Aid plaster joke doesn't work in the US because we don't call them plasters. They're just adhesive bandages. We also don't use "Hoover" except as a brand name. They're all just vacuums, despite the fact that Hoover is an American company.

[@PierceArner]

It's _super_ weird that "Hoover" gets that outside of the US, but not domestically.

[@lio1234234]

I definitely knew it, but I think I only learned it because it came up in conversation with an engineering lecturer I had, so... I think I may not count 😅

[@bleachit42]

@@PierceArneryeah, except it makes perfect sense if you think about it for 5 seconds.

[@PierceArner]

@@bleachit42 Oh? Please, do explain then.

[@Relyx]

Plaster on walls is a rarity too as I understand? You lot mostly use drywall instead, which is what we call plasterboard.

[@waterbender6427]

“You came like 4th in content, so it evens out” absolutely savage Ben. That was phenomenal

[@NathanTheDwarvenShark]

Get that man a ben-aid!

[@DerekHartley]

Kilroy was here, with the man poking over the wall was probably one of the earliest memes, it even predates computers.

[@altejoh]

Did we ever find out who Kilroy was, other than a reference to "Arigato Mister Roboto"?

[@RubelliteFae]

@@altejoh The graffito became popular during WW2-way before that song.

[@RubelliteFae]

Oh yeah, if we're going back before computers, then "Cool S" was probably the first I saw. But if we're getting technical about the use of the term meme, all language, spoken or written, is memetic. In fact, anything we consider cultural is memetic. So, the oldest I know of is the earliest burials which contained anything besides bodies. IIRC, flowers was the first-it goes back at least to _H. sapiens neanderthalensis,_ but I don't think it predates _H. sapiens sapiens._

[@theproject785]

Bens joke was very much appreciated

[@ZuperZombiezlayer]

Nilesy and Lewis are just a bit slow

[@bleachit42]

i got it immediately and hated it immediately

[@goldcakes]

I loved it as soon as they said the word plaster. I guess it didn't register because I've never called them band aids

[@Boxland_]

It was an excellent stretch.

[@Viprus]

I remember Lewis unironically talking about "Binging" things not too long ago. Felt so weird like he was either being paid by Microsoft to do it or being forced to do it against his will as a prank...

[@WilyWillyT]

Velcro is actually called a hook-n-loop closure (edit - typed before they said it) - I actually work in an industry were a cease-and-desist was issued and the company asked all clients to stop saying Velcro... BUT yes, I knew that was what it is actually called before that.

[@nathanmiller9381]

damn, I just did the same, and then saw you beat me, good work

[@harry68784]

i put german "Klettverschluss" (literally burdock-lock, or burdock-fastener, i guess) in google translate and it came out as "Velcro fastener". So, Velcro might already have lost that battle.

[@SamiKankaristo]

They have to "defend" the trademark, because if they don't do that (if they let it be used as a generic name), they can lose the trademark.

[@styfen]

I'm honestly surprised that someone as ancient as Ben, Lewis or Old Man Rick can even recall the first meme they saw, it was probably in an illuminated manuscript.

[@Aelwyn]

"It's an older meme sir, but it checks out."

[@Jonny_H]

Just chiming in to say I appreciated Ben's "Band-aider" comment.

[@johnnyh893]

huh? son i found you!

[@mr.wagenaar]

Ben-aid 😂

[@tysfalsehood]

Ben’s plasterer joke was great.

[@WeNeedMoreShanties]

Ben is a comedy genius

[@mr.wagenaar]

Ben-aid 😂

[@levisdarkness4239]

man ben is on fire with the dad jokes this episode XD

[@jjaaamm]

Hearing Lewis say "Hello and welcome back" is the biggest most heart warming dose of dopamine

[@NateyCat]

I effin’ love the “podcasty” GTAV episodes. Like, just listening and half watching. Super chill. Love it. ❤

[@jordanwalsh1691]

Hilariously, the Velcro company released an angry music video featuring singing lawyers telling people not to call generic hook and loop Velcro. It's on KZbin as "Don't Say Velcro"

[@TankHammer]

The flash drive (memory stick means RAM to me) discussion was giving me flashbacks to having to buy Zip Disks in college that each had 150mb on them and then we never used them because the lab just got CD burners. It was the following year that USB flash drives were finally invented and I bought a 64mb Fujifilm-branded one from Best Buy and used that until I learned my brand new iPod Video could mount as an external HDD. These memories are old enough to drink at this point, which is a relief because they need one now.

[@jet613]

Maaaaaaan I remember getting a 128mb flash drive and leaving it in my pants. Which went through the laundry. PTSD man, I was so worried it would die and I wouldn't be able to buy another. Luckily it was a trooper and survived.

[@THarSul]

lmao, love when nilsey is around, stories like the bongo trip thru the hurricane just cant be beat 🤣

[@BucketOfFail]

I knew hook and loop was what Velcro was because I searched for it on Amazon and the non-Velcro items were called hook and loop strips.

[@joed7547]

Bens Joke was Brilliant!

[@Metaljacket420]

When Orange Box DLC was releasing for Half Life 2 in 2007 I submitted a meme screenshot to IGN that was featured next day. One of the computer towers on Office pushed into the trashcan with the individual components what would break off scattered over the floor. With the description "How to prepare your old PC for Orange Box"

[@austinj9]

Already knew about hook-and-loop 😁 Also, Velcro made a couple of song-things as part of a "Don't say Velcro" campaign... they're on KZbin...

[@sonofhades57]

I think my first exposure to memes was genuinely the concept of the Rick Roll.

[@altejoh]

that or "you just lost..." or perhaps "i can haz"

[@MrSpannners]

I think mine was probably the "hang in there baby Cat". I feel like that is an early "meme" that people forget to mention.

[@luinturner4163]

Mine was rage comics, but I can't remember which one.

[@Zaldentheinvincible]

Peanut butter jelly time!

[@zekanner]

I quite enjoyed Ben's plaster joke.

[@GeneralRedNortherner]

First meme, hmmm... The earliest thing that springs to my mind is that video where the POV is on a hill watching a car driving along a road below, but as the camera pans around there's a jump-scare where a zombie or something pops up and shrieks at the camera. Does that count as a meme? Can't remember what the name of it is.

[@bensaveragefan5177]

That’s an old memory for me, my first meme would probably be that or that maze that jumpscared people

[@McKillaboy]

Wait, Kirsty actually goes 'heeheehee'? I'm melting.

[@gazeros69]

Her laugh is a godsend ☺️

[@daphnetilling6034]

You know you are old when you remember cassettes before floppy disks lol

[@Tson-nr9rw]

For computers? Or audio cassettes?

[@PresumablyTunes]

out of context, I would assume hook and loop was like towing a car or something

[@ProDTeach]

I googled it on Bing, and apparently, Velcro generic name is "hook and loop"

[@MGSLurmey]

If you want to be really chaotic, say you "Binged it on Google" :)

[@lastmagmarian9116]

Memory was actually better back in the day. First generation ssds had SLC flash, which is more durable than what came after it. It's so good that modern drives use a small amount as a cache.

[@cboneperlstone9661]

I immediately got Ben’s joke. Also, Velcro is called “Hook and Loop Fastener”. Their legal department made a song about it and it is hilarious

[@PresumablyTunes]

The first meme I experienced was the badger badger badger flash animation, that used to get sent around at school all the time bc we went to a school with badger in the name. That was 2003.

[@argentandroid5732]

Mr. Weebl celebrated the 20 year anniversary just a few months ago. Funnily enough he's also based out of Bristol, just like the Yogscast.

[@speculativemusings3593]

Velcro- Grabby Fabric- Grabric!

[@ApeironTsuka]

"If you make your own cheese in the office fridge, yeah, everyone's going to be mad as hell at you" I'm reminded of the one scene from Hey Arnold! that has stuck with me the most: Saturday morning. Arnold goes to pour milk from a carton into his cereal. It comes out in moist clumps. His grandpa says to himself, deadpan, "either that milk's gone bad or they've found a new way to sell cottage cheese"

[@mischief.brewed]

My first meme was based on an irish language short film called caca milis in which beloved actor Brendan Gleeson plays a blind man with asthma whos murdered because he eats cake too loudly while a woman (his killer) is trying to read 50 shades of grey. She kills him by telling him there are worms in his cake and stealing his inhaler. It is a classic

[@mischief.brewed]

The meme is just like the existence of this short

[@xRandomSarahx]

Having just seen Rick Astley Rick -roll us in to the new year, this video did feels very appropriate 😂

[@Menoetia]

10:38 I would know exactly what you meant _but_ only because when you go to buy it by the yard from a sewing shop, you can buy hook-side only, loop-side only, or hooks AND loops. The hilarious bit is that they refer to Velcro brand as hooks and loops too, to distinguish it from other materials. 🙃

[@jadangercorp]

Kristy is a true professor of Memes and Meme history

[@VideoSage]

"Hook and loop," when Lewis first said it, indidnt even understand what he was suddenly talking about till a memory from long ago clicked. (& Then they started mentioned Velcro)

[@EdinMike]

“What was your first meme..?” As someone who’s been here for 18 years on KZbin that’s a barrel loaded question…

[@Spengali1]

As soon as Velcro was mentioned I instantly came over all smug as I said "hook and loop fastening" to myself over and over until it lost all meaning.

[@Krabnut]

4:00 Like how there are chefs that can make peaches and cream look like a sunnyside up egg

[@tonk3878]

Man, it’s at moments like these it becomes apparent how ancient these guys are.

[@laurasaurus7399]

I knew velcro was called hook and loop tape because I got some from like aldi or lidl one time and i remember the packaging having those words on it

[@nolongeraperson]

Kirsty and I share the same first meme, though mine was the "Spider-Man has made you gay." Version with the song on AOL 2.0

[@shanaur]

I was having eggs with a cheese sandwich.. What a perfect appetite booster this first conversation was!

[@GrouchyGander]

Another example of the brand-crisis: The frisbee used to be a brand, but got used so much that it became synonymous with the original "flying disc" name.

[@fishpop]

From Google on the red flesh apples: "Known as Mountain Rose, Hidden Rose or Airlie Red Flesh apples, these striking apples tout a sugary aroma and an equally saccharine taste with notes of mild tartness. Some say the apples taste like cotton candy, strawberry lemonade, or even fruit punch. Others pick up on its subtle hints of berry and citrus flavors"

[@mikehab7453]

Sewing a Floppy Disc holder in school is the most British thing I’ve ever heard

[@Zedja]

My father used to work in the marketing department for an ice cream brand decades ago. When they first launched a specific type of ice cream cakes, a lot of people didn't like it due to the fact that the cake looked like it had whipped cream on the top, but that was also ice cream. So they didn't like the fact that the taste of it wasn't what their brain had imagined it to be.

[@redmondcoulter]

There's absolutely no way I'd immediately think of what Velcro is when you say hook and loop, I'd think of crochet too

[@Bagster321]

In Australia, we also use a bunch of brand names instead of the actual names. E.g. Panadol is used when referring to paracetamol, and the brand Nurofen for ibuprofen. Eksy is a brand of water/drinks cooler, but is used as a catch all term.

[@mikef5951]

I would assume hook and loop means velcro for one reason - a job I used to work involved packing a loop of velcro with like 50% of the products, but every sheet everywhere specifically said "hookloop"

[@Discerned_]

That 15:46 view swap from Lewis to Kirsty was clean!

[@andrewdiedrich3097]

One of the worst times I ate something and it had unexpected texture was when I ate a yogurt that I didn't know had fruit chunks in it. The only thing my brain could think in that moment was that it was either a clump of mold or a bug. Really messed me up even though it was just a delicious bit of strawberry. Not even for a second would I think of velcro if one said "hook and loop". All that comes to mind is some weird fishing or knot tying thing.

[@hanakoisbestgirl4752]

Jeeves quite literally rode off into the sunset. I believe the US version of Likeos? is Dogpile. I forgot about it completely and i used to love it

[@Timmeh7o7]

Another well-known brand generalization is Trampoline. No one knows them as "rebound tumblers." Also, we often call Tylenol by the other generic name, Acetaminophen.

[@wombleking]

I gotta say, I've really enjoyed having Nilesy back in main channel content.

[@githerax5303]

"Hook and loop" sounds like a medieval British description for a cleft palate.

[@ducttapeengineer]

Cheese is coagulated milk proteins, which can be aged with either bacteria, fungus, or other, but it does not have to be aged at all to still be cheese. Velcro is "hook and loop fastener", and also put out a press release trying to reclaim the brand name from genericization.

[@deluxeloy]

Ben was cooking, the others were just slow. Also, I like how Lewis kept doing backflips for no reason.

[@musicanddreamcast7034]

Moldymilk, the arch nemesis of Dairy Potter

[@mukulnag1578]

I didn't expect to hear this today... "When you bit into an apple you don't expect and embryo"

[@Alsier72712]

I recall typing in games from Byte magazine, and loading a Pyramid adventure game from a cassette tape. Much later I recall playing Darklands (which I recall being great), and having to load it from about a dozen 5.25" diskettes. They even sent me an update in the mail, physically sent me a couple of 3.5" disks to patch the game.

[@mungobaggins8197]

For anyone curious, red fleshed apples have been around a long time (I know of one variety from the late 1700s, and that was surely not the first one). They’re just not widely known. If you’ve ever seen a rosé cider, that probably has red fleshed apples in the mix. And on a side note: every food can sound gross if you describe it that way. That apple is just an ovary. That tin of beans is just hundreds of embryos that were boiled alive.

[@mikepetersen2927]

First computer meme: "You have died of dysentery." My travel box of 5.25" Apple II disks (160 KB/side, w/ hole-punched notch to flip over & use both sides). Boxes of RS-232 cables & gender changers/adapters. Modem handshaking as the song of my people.

[@JamieAubrey]

I don't have a phobia of eggs persay but when people don't flip the egg for a second that scares me, I need all the egg white to be cooked, none of this slimy look to it, that's why poached eggs are horrible

[@CzechAvailabilitie]

"Forced into his Bongo" sounds like a horrible euphemism.

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

3:28 - I got the inverse once, picked up something I thought was water, it was sprite. As I’m not big on fizzy drinks, I did not have a fun time lmao

[@Tiwack01]

One does not merely step into meme-territory

[@JamieAubrey]

Hook and Loop sounds like what you would call it when you tie your shoes

[@PierceArner]

Ben's joke requires a familiarity with British English that essentially won't land for most Americans, but is rather funny if you know both. The hook-and-loop fasteners is a case of over of those things where companies have to do that for legal purposes, but common usage just doesn't care. I remember gaming on 5¼" floppy disks on an Apple II in Elementary school. When it comes to memes, “I can has cheezeburger” is the first one that feels like it established memes even though there were viral things prior to that.

[@olgtombusken3550]

Bens joke was well constructed and excellently delivered. good job Bon

[@SgtBurned]

I was screaming "Hook and loop system!" whilst you were all talking about Velcro. It all depends on what you do for a living, I did a lot of clothing alterations whilst I lived with my mum so Hook n Loop was standard over Velcro

[@jet613]

Hook and loop makes me think of fishing right away to be honest.

[@evilemuempire9550]

Or the classic game Stick n’ hoop

[@harakiwi]

Here in Germany it's always been Klettverschluss. The word "klett" comes from those plants that get stuck to your clothes/pets ( aka Kletten / lat. Arctium ) and "verschluss" just means clasp

[@JRufu]

I liked it Ben...

[@TheEricBooth]

Poor Kirsty having to play with the bake potato computer.

[@shiny_Six]

I loved the band-aid bit Ben!

[@vicomteturenne]

I was introduced to the term "fastener, hook-and-loop" when signing for equipment in the U.S. Army. Took me a while to figure out it meant Velcro.

[@anonymoususer936]

I knew exactly what your were talking about with Velcro. The company I work for actually got cease and desisted for using the Velcro name on our products. It’s a real thing 😂

[@guidojacobs2002]

6:40 And then you have the old people calling every handheld a "Game Boy."

[@joshmiller2518]

damn nilesy driving in that is some dedication that is so dangerous

[@heyheyitsjae2475]

I work in a grocery store and I can say that kool-aid does still sell well. Every foodstamps people from the rez come down and buy like a whole box of the powder.

[@MrSpannners]

Grabby fabric, or Grabric as it's known in the biz

[@J_Random0822]

Been slacking on the GTA V vids, new year resolution: getting back into the races videos

[@paddycaker]

15:45 uhhh that edit between Lewis and Kirsty... Fucking spectacular work.

[@arcanescroll]

Hook and loop is obviously velcro. The zip tie people are vicious. They tore into Staples when they were calling theirs zip ties. I remember having to pull all the packages and placing labels over the packaging.

[@luketfer]

The classic one that I know of (because Blue Peter use to always use it because the BBC didn't allow them to use brand names) is Cellotape is a brand, the "non-branded" name for it is sticky back plastic.

[@redwiltshire1816]

Wierdly enough I think my first me would of been a yogscast one you guys got me into Internet culture

[@s.h.v.c2865]

Definitely knew what hook and loop meant. First meme I cam across was probably "badger badger badger".

[@wallacetj]

I forgot they were playing GTA until 10 minutes in when they finished the race. This is really just a nice short podcast for me.

[@EggLordTobias]

4:36 Lewis describing Scientology

[@Hexra_]

Hook and Loop sounds like a kindergarten playground game you play during recess

[@evilemuempire9550]

Interesting how I’m watching the Yogs talk about their old computers on one that probably has twice the computing power of all them combined in 1/10th the size

[@DogByteFR]

'Hook and Loop' is used to dscribe a lot of PVC patch backings but otherwise idk if everyone would get it

[@Dewi-H]

Similar to the maze game there were those videos of a car driving up a long road on a set of big hills. It'd pass behind another hill only to not be there on the other side, at which point you get spooped by The Ring/Exorcist girl.