What We Got WRONG About Vitamin D for Osteoporosis | NEW RECOMMENDATIONS

Dr. Doug Lucas discusses the controversy surrounding the pairing of two supplements. He explains the thought process behind the pairing and shares lab values that influenced the decision. Dr. Doug also delves into the complexities of vitamin D supplementation and its impact on other nutrients.
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Watch and Enjoy! Dr. Doug Lucas Key Moments in this Episode =========================
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Controversy
05:09 Potential Risks of High Vitamin D Levels
11:44 Comparison of Protect Plus and AlgaeCal D3 Complete

[@carolmartin3028]

Confused? I am take this dont take that..eat this dont that..hell with it.

[@carolcole570]

Carol, me, too, so I narrowed everything down and ordered Strontium. I started it several weeks ago.❤️

[@lauratheis3621]

What about heart and soil supplements they are more natural? Anyone use them?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I understand how overwhelming it can feel to navigate through all the health recommendations out there. Remember, small, manageable changes can add up to big results over time.

[@lindafreeman1687]

Very confusing. Every video is take something different....don't take that, take this. Take this much...don't take that much. Do this...don't do that.

[@carolcole570]

@@lindafreeman1687 I totally agree ! I chose to take two things. Of course, my Vitamin D3+K2 plus Strontium Citrate. Just can’t deal with flopping around from one thing to another. Got too many other health problems to deal with.

[@WendySimonson]

Why are you recommending a product with magnesium source Magnesium Oxide, which is the cheapest, least bio-available magnesium. It seems based on the cost of this product, I’d like to see a better magnesium source like glycinate. Can you respond? What am I missing here?

[@mimirose71]

Agree. Magnedium citrate is horrible!

[@WendySimonson]

@@mimirose71 actually in my research, Oxide is worse than Citrate, cheaper and less bio-available.

[@cailin5]

He recommends relying on magnesium glycinate in addition to this supplement

[@WendySimonson]

@@cailin5 Thanks, but my point is Magnesium Oxide is cheap and it has a strong laxative effect. AlgaeCal is a highly advertised product with high overhead. It should not be using such a cheap magnesium source when magnesium is such an important element in the bone-building formula. It should not be necessary to use additional glycinate. The original product should have higher quality magnesium. I'm wondering why Dr. Doug is endorsing a product with such cheap inferior source magnesium.

[@lynnrobin9988]

Probably because they calcium is well researched in it. But you're right, they should use a better magnesium.

[@wocket42]

Interesting. My first conclusion would be to also get enough vitamin A if on high D supplements. Preferably from actual (animal based) food, not from a supplement. Magnesium as well, but that was already widely known.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing!

[@rebekahfarris4993]

Oh, and I almost forgot, I take potassium twice daily to make sure there is enough to keep things running smoothly with the contractions in the smooth muscles in our systems.

[@pamelag.00]

Thank you as always. My head is spinning a bit. My family each has different health issues getting a wide range of information, But this is MY issue & I’ve been helped so much by you.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching! I am glad to hear this video was helpful!

[@Ccwuhccwuh]

I have been taking Protect +5. Are you suggesting I should switch to AlgaeCal Plus and AlgaeCal D3. I am still unclear as to which ones to take.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@almond1739]

Thank you for all you do, extremely helpful. Could you please comment on cod liver oil?

[@celeste514]

Thank you for all the detailed analysis. I appreciate this information.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Very glad to hear you enjoyed it!

[@lynnmcgaha141]

Dr. Barrie Tan, the foremost researcher on the tocotrienol form of Vitamin E, says tocopherols interfere with tocotrienols. So tocotrienols should not be taken with tocopherols. So not mixed in the same supplement.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing!

[@lindahager606]

This is the direction that I've been going after I read the book User's Guide to Calcium and Magnesium. I noted her concern about the interferences to magnesium which were too much D3, calcium, sugar and various forms of sugar, caffeine, and floride. I cut back in these areas and I use a rebounder plus OsteoStrong. I'm thankful for your research and people in the know who help us grandmas keep going!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching. I am glad this video was helpful!

[@cherlgolja5402]

Your great love your presentation ! 👍

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for your support!

[@tinacox9526]

Awesome info video thanks

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad it was helpful!

[@maril1379]

Always thumbs up from NYC

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I appreciate that!

[@CatCarina]

For those of us who can't get the Algaecal etc (because we're not in the USA) can you tell us the amounts and forms of the vitamins, especially D, so that we can source our own supplements? Thanks for all your help!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@wocket42]

Great that you mention all 8 forms of vitamin E. Although the science seems to be somewhat inconclusive on how much we need from each one. The main researchers also seem to have vested interests/patents on supplements. However, if you are a scientist and think you found a "cure" of some sort, you would also try to make it commercially available in a proper form.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing!

[@tashasgran]

CALCIUM. I was diagnosed O..P. and given Cacium and Vit D. Further down the line after a blood test, they found my Calcium level was slightly high (can be dangerous to be high in this) so stopped it and was just given Vit. D. Everyone needs a check before they take supplements.

[@lynnmcgaha141]

High calcium can mean too much parathyroid hormone. Have you had your parathyroid levels checked?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing!

[@jillmartin5734]

What about vit k2 ?

[@pattichronowski9324]

What are your thoughts on a daily multivitamin in conjunction with the AlgaeCal bone building duo?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@dotjeff4543]

Instead of less vitamin D, maybe we need more of the nutrients that support it (i.e. magnesium, vitamin A, etc.). Optimal levels of vitamin D are essential for immune health (learn from the last pandemic). RDAs for vitamin D are haven’t changed much in 100 years when all they knew was that a certain amount kept kids from getting rickets. Vitamin D is essential for so many other functions including balanced immune function.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing!

[@kmtx78]

I was on Algae Cal but with my dysphagia I was opening them, but still too gritty for me to get down. I was doing Naturelo and like it, but just switched to Life Extension Bone Strength Collagen Formula with KoAct. I would love to do Algae Cal but couldn't seem to make it work. Also, have heard mixed things on strontium and not sure what to believe. But I try to get in using my Celtic salt.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing your experience!

[@BBurns-vg9om]

Very interesting. I am high on vitamin D3. 92.7. But,Ive stopped it now for a short time.Where can we buy the Calcium from you have on your screen.❤

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Hi! You can purchase directly through this link --> algaecal.info/drdoug

[@kennethackerman9640]

Dr. Lucas - I'm finishing up on my protect 5 supplements. I'm a Male. What is your recommended dosage per day in how many capsules I should take with the AlgaeCal Plus if I'm taking 1 capsule of the AlgaeCal D3 Complete? Should I also include the AlgeaCal Strontium Boost from Algae Cal?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@Savannah-ed4rv]

Very interesting insights! Now I think I understand why I have not been able to take vitamin D the last 5 years without it causing an A-fib episode. Since it lowers magnesium and magnesium affects heart rhythm, it must be playing a role. My question is are you able to help me figure out why I can't tolerate any supplements for my bones. Calcium does the same thing to my heart and I am not able to take oral magnesium in any form four topical without it causing GI problems. That's just one of my many issues with supplements😢

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this, unfortunately I cannot provide specific recommendations through this platform, I would need to know a little bit more about you as well. Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@Marge-]

I’d love your opinion on KoAct…even though I don’t think there are enough human studies yet.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@rendalutz534]

Thank you for addressing this as I had asked about this with your changes in calcium recommendation video. My concern is I also have severe nerve damage and am on a supplement recommended by my neurologist which has 5000 IU of cholecalciferol in it. (This is from EBM Medical, EB-N5) It has no K2 so I take a separate supplement. This product from EBM Medical is helping me. So I'm very concerned about adding the D supplement from AlgaeCal. Perhaps I need to address nerve health before bone health despite the diagnosis of severe osteoporosis. I'm still confused about how much D I can take. Any thoughts? I do appreciate your videos, but it's getting so distracting to watch as there are so many ads!! Please reset these so they don't interrupt the video information.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@susancapin5975]

Very technical and complicated-I’m 85 and took Algae Cal Plus for several years until age 82. I fractured three vertebrae when I was 79. I did not need surgery. I now take Vit. K2( MK-7 200 mcg, Super Omega -3 (Carlson) wild caught fish oil, Vit. D3, 5000 IU. The Algae Cal did not prevent my bones from fracturing. What do u recommend? I also take Turneric and Time Release Vit. C, 1000 mg. and magnesium glycine 500 mg 3capsules per day. I take exercise classes 3x a week and do some exercises at home. I appreciate your knowledge but cannot understand the complexities. Also, my budget is limited now.

[@cindylutz7442]

I ferl your pain...sounds like you are doing awesomely well to me!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you so much for sharing all of this. It sounds like you could benefit from the next free Bone Foundations Masterclass we have coming up if you have not attended one before. You can find more information here -->www.optimalhumanhealth.com/build-bone

[@joannelivengood7914]

What is your understanding about strontium and how it affects the DEXA scan? In my research, I have read that strontium will actually take the place of calcium in the bones and will cause the DEXA scores to be erroneously high. I have avoided AlgeaCal because of the strontium.

[@cindysharp4466]

You can take AlgaeCal plus and leave off the strontium if you prefer not to take it

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@karenbumgarner3926]

How can I take MK1 when on a large dose of blood thinner?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@mwb7029]

I thought that you shouldn't take Magnesium and D3 together at the same time. Asking about AlgaeCal. What am I missing? I'm getting tired of mixing and matching these supplements for osteoporosis. I'm a tiny person and am afraid of taking too much of anything. I'm very cautious of More is better. Yet, genetically, I'm scr.....tks. I will sign up for your class.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@cindylutz7442]

So, last year my D level came in at 44. Now it's 85. Sounds like I might need to get it back down to 44?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@leia_guitar]

My sister has endometriosis as well as osteoporosis. Whenever she takes Vitamin D, even just 500IU, her endopain flares up within a couple of hours. Even when combining it with Mg and K2. She tried different D3 Supplements. What could cause this?

[@janebowman9150]

Too many supplements and not enough food!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

We discuss nutrition a great amount on this site. Checkout our latest video, "studio.kzbin.infoPKo4-hJA1Ag/edit"

[@valerielasalla1022]

Can you tell me what amount exactly to take of Vitamin D3K2? I'm so confused !😂

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@SeaStarGazer1111]

My mother had osteoporosis and was on 50,000iu of D3 once per week (by prescription), she was put on it by an endocrinologist, I believe. I don't know what her labs showed unfortunately. I think she was on the 50K iu weekly, for over a year.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing!

[@jstohlman]

I am assuming that you are recommending Algae-cal Plus and D3 complete. When I click on the link it brings me to Algae-cal Plus and stronium. D3 complete is not even an option. Help…

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Hi! You can find the D3 Complete here --> www.algaecal.com/products/vitamin-d3-complete/?item=DC1-V&g_acctid=179-302-6600&g_adgroupid=&g_adid=&g_adtype=none&g_campaign=SEM_PMax_US-Brand_Conv_Feed-Only&g_campaignid=18966536839&g_device=c&g_keyword=&g_keywordid=&g_network=x&ph=gads-shop-brand&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwi_exBhA8EiwA_kU1MoQ1AzQesJSACbMamvK3AoizCaUU9AaBGDulxZVZEG-TUHj2wmVAZBoCKF0QAvD_BwE

[@yournaturalhealthconcierge]

My understanding from bone health and other D experts is that dry Vit D is not bioavailable. Basically a waste to take. And that D needs to be in a carrier oil like MCT or extra virgin olive oil. That's how I take it plus all the cofactors including boron and magnesium etc.

[@picky682]

I know for a fact dry Vit D has upped my VIT D levels from following up with blood tests, 6 months apart in the winter months. Not a waste for me, this even from Costco brand though I have switched it up to SISU brand now.

[@yournaturalhealthconcierge]

@@picky682 Probably is bio-individual. I switched to a gelcap and it finally got my D levels up around 80.

[@Maria-iu3ed]

​@@yournaturalhealthconciergeHello! Can you please mention which brand helped you with elevating d3 levels? 😊❤

[@yournaturalhealthconcierge]

@@Maria-iu3ed I answered but it disappeared. Guess mentioning brands and giving links isn't allowed. Look for Healthy Origins D3 in olive oil. It comes in various strengths, 10,000, 5000 and 2000 IU

[@Maria-iu3ed]

@@yournaturalhealthconcierge Thank you!

[@kimw5533]

Is there another multi-mineral supplement recommended without calcium?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@valerielasalla1022]

Since I just bout a bottle of Protect 5, is it ok to take it 2-3 times a week as opposed to every day?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@moniquemckenna6795]

I thought one should not take strontium with Calcium?

[@michelleschaffert3755]

The product tells you to take them at different times

[@moniquemckenna6795]

@@michelleschaffert3755 Algae cal has both Calcium and strontium so I am confused how do I take them at different times??

[@alethearobinson8132]

I take calcium citrate in the morning and strontium in the evening. I don't take the Algea Cal for that reason

[@moniquemckenna6795]

I do understand what you are saying and this is how I have taken calcium and Strontium but my question was the products Dr. Doug sell have calcium and strontium in the bottle so my question was to him. Than you for your advice

[@annamay3083]

​@@michelleschaffert3755you can and should take calcium at bedtime Take them separately .Calcium is a bigger molocue than strontium . Calcium will knock strontium out. Take separately

After having a severe reaction to traditional osteoporosis meds and reading the reviews on this product, I ordered algaeCal plus to try to bolster my bone health. I had a severe allergic reaction to this as well. I am able to supplement with other calcium and vitamin d products with no allergic reaction. AlgaeCal doesn’t work for me.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing your experience!

[@tomw7026]

I'm a little confused with K. Algaecal + has 100 mcg of K2. D3 Complete has 1000mcg K + 4500mcg K2+50mcg K2. Isn't that a lot of K?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@elizabethhand1996]

I think it will be interesting to see over time how Strontium affects REMS scores.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing!

[@jimmcintyre1966]

I've tried different magnesium types and brands since I started having heart palpitations and bone pain after increasing my vitamin D intake and I've found that the Doctor's Best brand High Absorption Magnesium Lysinate Glycinate tablets give the best results of all that I've tried. Plus they are reasonably priced for the amount of tablets you get.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing!

[@marci3667]

What about K2 along with D3?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@lynnrobin9988]

Usually, his videos are so clear, but this one was confusing. Not sure what the conclusion was he was getting at. Take both supplements or that was too much vitamin D?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@user-dt3wm8rn4j]

Blood tests first, right?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

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[@beyondfitrd]

Why not just take, or eat, more vit A/retinol instead of dropping the D? I don’t hear any convincing reasons for this shocker. I’ll look at the show notes for more.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@valerielasalla1022]

So Protect 5 is not good to take? I just bought it!😂

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Hi! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things we discuss. We can go into detail further on there rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@dort5436]

There's more we get from the sun just Vitamin D.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing!

[@leise3107]

I wish you could dummy these videos down without as much medical lingo

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Hi! Thank you for this feedback. I will keep this in mind for all future videos!

[@SumGirls]

Can’t wait to see my next set of test results now that I’m back on AlgaeCal/Strontium and AlgaeCal D3 Complete! We’ll know in a few months… 👏🎉💪🏻💜 🦴

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Yes! We look forward to continuing to watch your journey :)