THE WORST NUTRITION ADVICE FOR OSTEOPOROSIS | What does the science say?

[@daisies4444]

If she was just recently diagnosed with osteoporosis and she has been a Vegan for 35 years and is now promoting Veganism as a cure for osteoporosis, how did she get it in the first place? It doesn't make sense.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Agreed.

[@bellasee1]

That's a clue as to why she has osteoporosis. Not enough protein!

[@debbimorgon2988]

@@bellasee1 There is protein in all vegetables.

[@sentinelwatch360]

​@@debbimorgon2988good luck with that.

[@tredjesongen]

Hello there! My story is the complete opposite okay. 13 yrs ago my bones were riddled by osteroporosis (and metastatic cancer in my spine just to spite it up) Well,believe me or not; went plant based. Cancer is gone osteroporosis are gone. Enough of this meat milk propaganda. I cannot sit still anymore. Bet my comment will be deleted. I got news for ya: this train wont stop. I feel awful for not shouting from the roof tops. You see I'm not the only one. Adding: no b12 vit d blah blah deficiancy okay. Stop the gaslighthing. Now. So much suffering and deaths could be avoided. Dont you dare reduce me to a miracle anekdote. Thousands of studies. Thousands! Doctors who promote meat fish cheese milk HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS. Or are paid by meat mafia and or pharmacy ogligarks. Or are just ignorant or sadistic.Rant over.

[@BarbaraC02]

Thanks, you answered so many of my questions about probable causes of my osteoporosis journey. In short, I am 74, very active, painfree currently. Had a hip replacement at 64 after a nasty fall while trail running on rocky desert trails. Osteoarthritis was mentioned so I changed my diet to include meat and started using goat milk in coffee and cooking. No alcohol or cigarettes and intermittent fasting for the past 6 years. I wear a fitness watch and complete 10K steps daily. The game changer I believe has been the addition of Strontium, Berberine, Boswellia extract, D3/K2 with my other vitamins. I put powdered Magnesium Glycinate in my morning coffee. I was following a vegetarian lifestyle for a few years before my hip fracture. My recent DECA scan reports normal bone activity with low probability of fracture. Thanks for your advice and input on this very important topic.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing! Congratulations on your success.

[@tracysmith-yv5lt]

i will have to try goat milk i can not have too much dairy products

[@CelineNoort]

Wow very impressive results! Inspiring. I was diagnosed with osteopenia, due to a parathyroid condition only recently diagnosed that day regulated my calcium loss. O am otherwise active training heavy weights 3x week at gym, and use similar supps to yours now. Hopefully once my parathyroid is sorted I regain bone strength. I am 53, no illness history ( so that was a shock!) . Thank you for creating healing hopes!!

[@TheSprayduster]

@@tracysmith-yv5lt I love goats milk. Goats are very picky about their food. Hence great milk! And fefir, and yoghurt.

[@janina3566]

I came across that KZbin channel after my initial diagnosis. She definitely presents herself as an expert, but no credentials. Thank you for calling out influencers and reminding people to use critical thinking when choosing who, and what, to believe.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@juditharmitage6797]

Thank you for such an informative video where you competently dispel the myth arpund the acid alkaline controversy. My medical doctor says that I'm to increase the amount of animal protein that I consume to help combat my severe osteoporosis as bone is made up of a significant amonut of protein. I love your channel.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad it was helpful, thank you for watching!

[@hikari8858]

Congratulations! Sounds like you have a knowledgeable doctor. Yes, animal protein, collagen, and minerals.

[@Ragamuffinblue]

I’m glad you made this video. I hope people will take note and not just jump on the next train because they like who’s talking instead of investigating for themselves.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you fro watching!

[@BumbleBee666-u5t]

I came across this lady and as soon as she said she was vegan I knew for me that wasn’t right. But the reason we listen to different people is because we are trying to improve our health and we get no help from our GP except to have an injection every 6 months or meds which a lot of us don’t want to take, that’s why I here to see if you can help.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for listening, I am glad you are here!

[@lindakautzman7388]

Yes, GP and specialists at bone clinics that do infusions have nothing to say about nutrition beyond calcium.. We are forced to go looking on KZbin...and take our chances in finding the right physical therapist ( who specialize in bone health) chiropractor or nutitionist.

[@gracie3174]

I’ve been watching a ton of videos on osteoporosis and hands down,you’re the absolute best! Thank you so much. I really needed this!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you so much, glad they are helpful!

[@KBeMaybe]

Glory B offers some reasonable jump and high-impact exercises that check out with current research. I give her credit for introducing me to that concept and I'm appreciative. I find the rest of her content unsupported in the available literature. We have to be our own advocate, and do our own research, taking the good from various sources, not just one. Thanks for this great video, respectfully presented.

[@margarethawk3073]

I really don’t believe whether a person eats meat or is vegan is a factor in getting osteoporosis. I personally have osteoporosis and I am vegan. I have not always been vegan but only became vegan when I was diagnosed with possible Lupus and definitely Sjogrens. A plant based healthy diet has helped manage this and I do feel better eating a plant based diet. But as far as osteoporosis, I did not exercise, I am small, 95 lbs., only 4 ft 11 inches, white, light complexion and a family history as my older sister has osteoporosis and she is not vegan. I think it is important to eat healthy and exercise especially weight bearing.

[@patriciadrank6543]

@@margarethawk3073 You have a choice in your opinion. Science has proven otherwise in what you have stated.

[@patriciadrank6543]

@@margarethawk3073 You have a choice in your opinion. Science states otherwise in what you have stated.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@KBeMaybe]

@@margarethawk3073 I largely agree with you. I always try to research the constantly changing and sometimes deceptive "science" across the spectrum, and I also allow for differences in individuals. I was a vegan for 5 years and felt great the first 2 of that. I gradually started getting negative symptoms and eventually had to eat animal products again. I've been keto-vore for 3 years and feel the best ever. I also have a small frame and found it very difficult as a vegan to get enough protein to build and maintain muscle mass and the energy for rigorous exercise. But that's my journey and I'm thankful I've found what works best for me, just as you seem to have. That's why I steer clear of extreme recommendations for every one. I pick and choose what works.

[@TheSprayduster]

the more I listen to your pod casts the more I love you for what you contribute to so any lives. thank you

[@Dr_DougLucas]

You are so welcome. Thank you so much for your support! I am so glad to hear you are enjoying these videos!

[@lj9089]

Love everything you give us, for free! Thank you!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!!

[@fullstackoasis3946]

I didn't read all the comments so perhaps someone has mentioned this already. At 30:00, you mentioned that the EPIC-Oxford study indicated a higher fracture risk for vegans and vegetarians. If you search pubmed, you will find an abstract that says this increased fracture risk was very likely due to an inadequate calcium intake in the **vegan** diets. "Conclusions: In this population, fracture risk was similar for meat eaters, fish eaters and vegetarians. The higher fracture risk in the vegans appeared to be a consequence of their considerably lower mean calcium intake." Vegans (and all people) should be very careful to check that whatever diet they follow has adeequate nutrition. I wouldn't be surprised if vegans with a higher calcium intake were comparable to meat-eaters wrt fracture risk. It seems like many people will alter their diets without checking to make sure they are not now missing nutrients - something that might come back to bite them later in life. Please track your nutritional info every now and then and see if you need a supplement. I'm sick and tired of the refrain that supplements are a waste. Clearly plenty of people need them.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

That's possibly true but we don't know that for sure. I doubt it's just calcium related as osteoporosis is not a calcium deficiency for most people. It's likely a combination of deficiencies.

[@ytaziza]

I'm so glad I found you. I have been following the Save Institute and Dr. Susan Brown, who also is adamant about the alkaline diet. I had just discovered Glory B and was more interested in her exercise than diet. I've been doing keto and don't want to give up most of my meat. Also, I've read as you get older (I'm 67 this month), you need more protein. My older sister was a vegetarian for years and had severe osteoporosis and a fracture in one arm, broke the other arm, and a broke a leg, all due to falls in one year. She never regained the strength in her leg. I have osteoporosis and need to get serious about exercise. I'm thankful I don't have to become mostly vegetarian to help my bones, that would be too much of a change in addition to adding in the exercise. I just downloaded your book and look forward to learning from you.

[@magpiegirl3783]

You might be interested in looking up Margaret Martin - Canadian physical therapist who specialises in exercise for those with osteoporosis - and Sherri Betz who is right on top of the latest research into exercise for bone density. Both these ladies are qualified and experienced and have programs you can follow. Influencers, whilst maybe meaning well, just don’t have an overall understanding of the body and usually just posts information by the real experts.Good luck on your journey.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching and sharing your story, I appreciate your support!

[@KBeMaybe]

@@magpiegirl3783 Thanks for those recs! I'll check them out.

[@merryworld4776]

​@@magpiegirl3783Thank you for posting this info. 🌿🌷🌿

[@Marian-rl1rn]

Loved this informative and(!) entertaining video! I was diagnosed with osteopenia before going whole foods vegan for 3 years. My next dexa showed me to be fully into osteoporosis. The well meaning anesthesiologist who strongly encouraged a vegan diet said of ( my concern) osteoporosis, "It's a natural process of aging." I'm so very grateful to be one of your clients now. For sure. Thank you !

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Me too! Looking forward to working with you.

[@liberaljoe]

Dr. Lucas. Good job. Thanks for this video.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kitolivi5703]

I was diagnosed with osteoporosis. On my MD ex husband’s advice , refused the drug route and ordered a 24 hr urine collection 0:06 showed excessive calcium leakage leached from my bones I was diagnosed with a parathyroid malfunction. Had one parathyroid removed. I changed my diet and added meat, greatly reduced Carbs and ramped up my exercise regimen and took certain vitamins. I’m 79 yrs old and doing very well. How about a talk on Thyroid /parathyroid issues as they relate to bone loss.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing! I will add that to the list.

[@Rosemary-up1ql]

Interesting. Thank you.

[@danam.8973]

Hi Dr. Lucas, I love your channel. I sure agree with you on this. I was on a plant based diet for 4 years and found myself with severe osteoporosis at the age of 58. I don’t know if my diet caused it but it sure couldn’t have helped. Currently, at 62 my naturopathic doctor has recommended a diet with a variety of meat, fish and vegetables. Thank you for presenting your view in a manner easy to understand that makes sense.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thanks for sharing this, appreciate your support!

[@genxx2724]

My mom has been vegetarian her entire adult life, and vegan for 20 years. She is 78, she does not even have osteopenia.

[@anaabendroth3460]

@@genxx2724 but she probably has a combo of great genes and a super active lifestyle

[@susanbannister5534]

​@@genxx2724I believe your mom built her skeletal base strongly before going vegan.

[@genxx2724]

@@susanbannister5534 I don’t think that’s it. If being vegan were harmful, she would be losing bone. I think a lot of people stop eating animal products but don’t know what they need to eat for good nutrition.

[@tonysaenz]

I just have to say, you’re a great teacher. Thank you for making it easy to understand!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you! Glad this was helpful

[@BarbaraSweet-hb6xj]

I appreciate the way you present the topics chosen. Your open honesty/truths are right on!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I appreciate that!

[@deborahgarcia1338]

thank you Dr Lucas I’m so glad you did this video. Yes she is a sweet lady, I just watched a few of her videos a few days ago. I was diagnosed with osteoporosis in my left hip & osteopenia in my spine. I just started watching your videos & I am very impressed. You are the only Dr I have subscribed to on KZbin & I’ve watched a lot of videos 40 min ago. Sorry about the comment, I’m very new to this

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching, I appreciate your support!

[@kathyhenry4770]

😊

[@laurietebbenkamp1890]

Thank you for doing the research on the research! Thank you for being willing to make it available for inquiring minds to find! Hearing an educated response to the very popular mainstream “health” claims is such an incredible gift! I’m just starting my journey into researching osteoporosis for my mother’s health and I am thrilled to find a truly science driven health approach!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@user-bg9em7ch6k]

Truly outstanding breakdown of the studies-thank you!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!

[@Indydi]

The problem is, there are plenty of doctors that are convinced Vegan is the way to go. They never look past the media summaries of the studies, and they have the largest platforms. Glad you're doing what you're doing, and that you actually look to the bottom of the source of all this information and "information."

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Yes, well said. Thank you for your support!

[@Barb6106]

I agree with a few commenters here.. sweet podcaster but… She had osteopenia She pushes Garden of Life vitamin mix that contains strontium. This substance was used in the famous COMB study (the NIH report is interesting ).. Strontium, along with K2, magnesium, D2 etc.. and weight exercise. There was a good result.. HOWEVER, strontium changes Dexa results which was not mentioned so you can’t be sure of the scan results and the reports I could find were all mixed on safety long term of Strontium which I found scary. Another KZbin channel, Dr Susan Brown,PhD pushes the alkaline diet and (of course) her huge line of vitamins. She is a medical anthropologist and nutritionist. I am so very grateful to you for clarifying this topic. Too many out there are “experts” and muddy the waters for those of us who want REAL ANSWERS-based on actual science-not twisting the facts to suit the narrative. Please continue to post your excellent information!

[@kayeszymanski6945]

Yes I also followed Dr. Brown for awhile but as soon as I saw the vitamins etc, I stopped and went ketogenic way of eating. My Dexa scan improved both hip and spine. Went from osteoporosis to osteopenia. Need to get another scan to see if there has been more improvement 🎉

[@Barb6106]

@@kayeszymanski6945 yes.. the vitamins turned me off… too many things to buy on her “system”🙄 Congratulations on turning the corner on this! Good job!😍

[@cherlgolja5402]

Thanks for shining a light on her , she sweet and I enjoy watching her, everybody is different! she funny ! Knowledge is power just question everything and research research research 🧐 love your Chanel

[@bobcatterson2834]

At the end of the day; it's all about the money...your $$$. Same thing with certain political influencers. ie alex jones makes multi millions off the gullible.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this, I greatly appreciate your support!

[@kimzeller7824]

Thank you for putting this out. I have osteoporosis and am always seeking info on how to deal with it naturally since I don’t want to do the drugs. Your interpretation is helpful as reading those studies can be mind-boggling. I saw that GB video and had some hesitation. My doc actually said I need to up my protein intake significantly. I have to keep telling myself that our bodies all work slightly differently. Appreciate you!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you!

[@darlatobin2240]

Boron deficiency. Go listen to dr flechas here on you tube. It is an easy fix to strengthen your bones, reduce pain, energize, and balances hormones at the same time!

[@judys1340]

I love your videos! I have OP and have stopped it from getting worse just by changing my diet and some exercises. I believe my horrible diet of cheerios for dinner and bad carbs for breakfast drastically helped me get OP. for the past 4 years I have been basically keto/carnivore with occasional cheating. My last test showed very little improvement but not worse. My doc wants me to think about going on those nasty drugs if i dont show improvement on my next test. If feel I'm on the right track, i'm retiring in 2 months and plan to really focus on exercise and being active. I have watched some of your video's on what to add to my routine so I think I can improve. Thank you!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this! I am glad to hear that you are seeing a difference!

[@cege8693]

Thank you for being such a class act. So much fluff and drama out there, you calmly and clearly state the facts. Love your approach and style. Appreciate you taking the time to clarify and point out the info that is ridiculous when looked at closely.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you so much for your feedback, I appreciate your support!

[@sandrashoemake9911]

Loved this episode, keep them coming . I am looking forward to the Masterclass.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@MargaretArmstrong-z2l]

Thank you for this clarification. I was getting really fed up having to check out the numerous Drs credentials on KZbin and finding out they are chiropractors and such.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@mitzisparks13]

I am so glad to have found you! I was looking at the plant based diet but it did not ring true but I was looking for help. When I was listening to you on a few of your videos, it just rings true in my brain. There is just too much out there to navigate. Thanks so much for validating what I have thought to be true and then expanding my knowledge. Thanks again for taking the time to do this!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching! I greatly appreciate your support!

[@michelleklock1360]

Thank you for making sense of this! It has relieved my concerns and helps me make better decisions about my bone health and my diet. It seems to me sugar is the thing to avoid.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@susanbannister5534]

Sugar is certainly a body destroyer!

[@wocket42]

I've learned so much from this video. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos. Your videos are really standing out against other "review videos" in terms of depth of information and in how you consider available data and arguments from all sides.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate your feedback!

[@cindytaylor698]

It’s great that you are passionate about your calling! You obviously care about your patients’ health.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I do indeed! Thank you for watching!

[@hongbeaven4020]

Thank you so much for this discussion. I have arthritis and love vegetables, but I can’t go vegan as I am also allergic to many types of oxalates, therefore spinach/kales/broccoli and tomatoes and many more worsen my joints and knuckles pain. As of ph…. meat do not bother me. Basically, if I want a good night sleep, I don’t consume leafy green that day.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@karenkincaid174]

Excellent information. Thank you. Can’t wait for your Masterclass.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching! Look forward to seeing you there!

[@markbalancehealth]

Stop apologizing or you're going to be mistaken for one of us Canadians! Haha. Your passion for the topic is clearly evident and very much appreciated. You have a clear, concise way of discussing the topics and to be honest, I'd even prefer a bit more length/increased resolution for certain things (an example would be when a clinical term for an I/O condition is used in a synopsis, which might have the effect of excluding all the "grey area"/non-clinical status that most of us live in) in order to help those of us that are seeking to be proactive so as to not degrade into those negative clinical diagnoses, arguably the most frustrating part of self-directed health goals. Thanks again for this great resource you've contributed to the online community.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

haha thank you so much for watching, glad you enjoyed it. I appreciate your feedback as well!

[@magpietexas9475]

Thank you. I had listened to several of her videos and some of the diet stuff just didn't make sense to me. I want to 'get over' my osteo - so really want to get the right diet/nutrition. I can't see giving up muscle building nutrition in the process.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@ggwebcast]

Excellent, well researched video✨👍🏻💯

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching

[@antoniahamilton3201]

Thank you for clarifying the alkaline/acid diet. You just verified what various medical health newsletters have stated about this issue. The Save Institute's website is very slick. It would be interesting to know how profitable it is.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad you enjoyed this! Thank you for watching!

[@g.e.b.8159]

Somebody hacked and changed my post, so I deleted it.

[@louisebauer4897]

It would be so nice of you if you would let us know what YOU did to overcome this disease.

[@cearilindubhlaoi9507]

This story is so inspiring & so helpful please tell us what diet changes you made ...thank you for sharing x

[@catherineberra-veau4301]

I completly agree. Glory B is not a doctor !

[@g.e.b.8159]

@@louisebauer4897 I don't think it is a disease, but a condition. I put on my plate 20% of protein (fish or meat) and 80% vegetables. I judged by eye, of course. I am lactose intolerant, so I added calcium supplements. Check with Dr Lucas about it. I am still an archaeologist, so I am outdoors for at least 4 weeks a year doing great physical exercise and taking some sun. I also work in the garden and exercise every day for almost an hour. The sciatica that plagued me before has also completely disappeared.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I appreciate your support, thank you for watching!

[@SW-zx4rj]

Thank you so much! Best channel for clear, concise and true information.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I appreciate your support!

[@EnglishFlorals]

Thank you for doing the research and bringing us the truth. I used to subscribe to Save Institute newsletters but unsubscribed when she said not to drink cows milk. I went to two sessions with a nutritionist who showed me how to get 1200 ml of calcium a day from my diet and how to eat a balanced diet. It was of the best things I have done. Thank you for your informative and helpful videos Dr Doug.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this, I am glad you enjoyed this video!

[@tigertalks1567]

There are so many nuances and different things that can affect different things in the body. I have osteopenia but the reason was found to be I had very high cortisol I did a 24-hour urine and my cord is always 665, normal is 50 or less turns out I had something called Cushing syndrome. High cortisol can destroy your bones the best thing to do is find out what caused it

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@tonideleeuw2643]

Thank you for your information I’m starting to read your book and are hopeful I can fix my osteoporosis 😊

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad to hear that! Thank you for your support!

[@LindaPatriquin]

Thank you for doing this video. I looked at the studies she pointed to, and I couldn't follow their logic. I really appreciate you clearing things up!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad it was helpful!

[@rosemarie9956]

Thank you for addressing this issue. I was going to comment on her videos but like you become exasperated when people lack the training and knowledge and especially crucial thinking skills and make these correlations. As you explained - there is simply more serious issues going on if our blood pH falls out of our tightly controlled range. So much misinformation within the field of nutrition.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Yes, thank you for your comment!

[@tammywagner8402]

Great video! One question, though: the ph image you pulled up from the Save Institute (at 9:23 in your video) isn't that wrong? It shows 0-6.9 as alkaline and 7.1-14 as acidic. Isn't it the other way round?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Yes, it’s upside down. Point is still valid but our editors pulled an image that is incorrect.

[@bsmith2308]

Thank you ……. clearly makes good sense and helps direct my choices.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad it was helpful!

[@juleconn]

28:11 Dr.Doug,U R analytical¹⁰+intelligent¹⁰! U guide us to seek other specialists,that's the sign of a real special Dr. Thank you, jule

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@veronicaheaney3464]

Your recommendation to listen to people who know a lot about the topic we want to know about is why I am listening to you about bone health. I recently had a follow-up DXA scan because after my breast cancer surgery, I was going to be taking Anastrozole. I was 74 at the first scan before starting the medication. It showed a very healthy bone density. (e.g.: lumbar T-score = -0.5; mineral density = 1.115 g/cm2) Two years later, my DXA showed a decrease in mineral density to 1.040 g/cm2 with a T-score of-1.02. While not terrible, there is more of a loss than I want. It puts me into the osteopenia category. So, while I have not as yet seen your Best Diet recommendations, I have increased my protein intake and resistance training since getting those latest results a couple of months ago. I plan on requesting another DXA next year to see if my efforts are working to overcome the effects of the anastrozole. If not, well, I will cross that bridge when I get to it. Thanks for this video. I’m confident that the one on the diet you recommend will be just as informative.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you so much for sharing about your journey. I am glad to hear that these videos have helped!

[@Mtud-jm8eg]

Wow! What great information. Thank you for your knowledge. Very much appreciate it.🙏🏼

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching, I appreciate your support!

[@MariaBrinks25]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 thank you so much for talking about this I found her channel recently and I was almost convinced to go vegan for my osteoporosis but I still had worries in the back of my head that what if this is not good for my bones?? Even though I don't enjoy eating meat I know I have to eat what is best for my body and my bones,, there's so much misinformation when it comes to osteoporosis but I have heard vegan doctor say that a plant-based diet can reverse osteoporosis but I'm just not convinced though it is tempting ,, a part of you wants to try it but I just don't feel in my gut it'll be good for my bones

[@magpiegirl3783]

Yep … go with your instincts. If vegetarian diet reversed osteoporosis, then no one who is vegetarian would get osteo (short of other complicating factors). Other protein sources of fish, turkey, chicken and eggs are all good if you’re not crazy on red meat. Maybe a stir fry with red meat might be more palatable? We have to enjoy what we eat, so good luck on getting the balance right for you.

[@MariaBrinks25]

@@magpiegirl3783 well for me it's tricky because I just don't enjoy any meat at all not fish not even eggs I only like cheese cottage cheese and milk , I hate yogurt it's so gross but I do eat , I guess I got lucky that I'm not a picky eater and I have a high tolerance of food to where I can eat disgusting nasty gross tasting foods Without spitting them you're freaking out but I do it because I have to I'm very serious about helping my bones get better I was vegetarian from age 11 up to age 36 But for me it wasn't just that I was vegetarian it was I was eating under Caloriesand under protein and I also didn't menstruate for 11 years I have a lot of rebuilding to do on my body and I just didn't feel like a vegan diet could do it , even if I got enough calories I still don't know if I could put all my faith on plants alone

[@magpiegirl3783]

@@MariaBrinks25 Best wishes for your health journey Maria.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I am glad this was helpful!

[@WomblePuppy]

Thanks for this. I noticed most if not all of the “studies“ GloryB used were more than 15years old. I had understood that to be taken seriously, we should only use studies done within the last 10years. Makes it even more interesting to me looking at what she cites. 🧐

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I appreciate your perspective but disagree a bit. Well done studies from over 10 years ago should be considered as legitimate. We haven’t changed as a species in that time so a well done study should be fine to consider.

[@hikari8858]

@WomblePuppy -- How long ago a study was conducted is not relevant. What matters is how well the study was designed, how well it was conducted, and how accurately the results were reported. Nowadays, too many so-called studies are nothing but junk science (poorly designed, and with strong ideological and financial biases).

[@mariabrayton3861]

Excellent, very informational video. Thank you!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad it was helpful!

[@melindasmith3392]

Thank you for this video. I'm 69 year old woman and have osteoporosis and hopefully can turn it around with exercise and diet. I will share this with my sister 65 who just got diagnosed. You have cleared up the issue of my diet, which I was considering going vegan because I also heard on the Internet about meat being acid forming. Thanks for this information 👍

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching! Glad this video was helpful!

[@francesb6758]

Thank you for this video and for the work that you're doing. I just discovered your channel and have subscribed -- and ordered your book from Amazon. I'm 74 and generally healthy, but with an assortment of autoimmune issues, and I don't don't want to be worrying about osteoporosis too.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for your support!

[@judys1340]

Do some research on gut health. Bad gut health is the gateway to so many issues. I have improved so much by improving my gut health.

[@helenjacobs1682]

I don't see where to order the online book

[@bowler8]

I go to my PCP and asked numerous times am I post menopausal, they're obviously not listening, then never suggest HRT, and with family history of this, now I'm Osteoporotic in my femoral neck and a previous femur fracture, they now want me to take bisphosphonates, which I'm not happy with. So much for giving them the heads up at 40, now 62

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I am sorry to hear this, thank you for sharing. Our Bone Foundations Masterclass could be beneficial to you if you have not attended one before. You can find further information here --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/build-bone

[@ksctravels]

Thank you! Very informative.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@deboncariboulake]

Because I watch Glory B videos, yours came up as a suggestion so I started following you! I ignored her advice on diet, as I would never go plant based! I did start taking the Vitamin Code Grow Bone System from Garden of Life and for the first time I had an improvement in my Dexa Scan this year.

[@magpiegirl3783]

If that’s the product with strontium, that may account for the apparent improvement.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@donatina1987]

Really? How much,improvement? Can you share more? Did you noticed something in your teeth?

[@tashasgran]

At 80 yr old, Fractured my wrist 3 yrs ago. Dr. prescribed a ?/? acid tablet once a week. Can’t swallow easily and the dangers of it melting before it goes down made me come off them. Read about Prunes and told Doc that I was going to try to see if they improve it. Due another test in Jan. so will see if it works. I eat a well balanced diet following Dr Tim Spector’ research and try to walk 5000 steps per day, weather permitting.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this. Checkout our next free Bone Foundations Masterclass if you have not attended one yet. This could be beneficial to you, you can find more information here --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/bone-foundations-master-class

[@pointshealthcoaching8474]

Great info and I appreciate the details!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thanks for watching!

[@deeangelasidlo4651]

Great comment about Glory Bs healthy lifestyle, which resulted in osteoporosis. Indeed.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thanks for watching!

[@marthadoelle7585]

Dr. Gregor Nutrition Facts has great unbiased advice for those who want to eat plant based and avoid osteoporosis.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@windnwood]

Thank you so much for this video/info. Reinforces my choice for lower carbs and Mediterranean diet

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@tammygolding1201]

I listened to the whole thing, very good!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@petra2912]

Thorough and interesting as always, thanks

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@lyndamedley543]

A very fine video. Thank you!!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@lindakent6586]

Great video. Thank you

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad you liked it!

[@yingbai3539]

Really appreciated your time to review all this information, I have learned a lot from your video, like listened a class.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching, I greatly appreciate your support!

[@LindaGerhart-h8y]

If she’s a lifelong vegan and a vegan diet is the way and the cure then how did she end up with osteoporosis in the first place?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Exactly!

[@donnaw9668]

Very helpful information. Thank you❤

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@lynnwilliams5432]

Supposedly a new research paper is coming down let us know. My therapy says high protein thinking it helps me tolerate my Alendronate too.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I'm always on the lookout. Send it over if you see what you are looking for.

[@MorningClarity]

How about teeth and acidity? Direct contact. I'm thinking this would be when/where this would have an effect.

[@magpiegirl3783]

Yes. They say drinking apple cider vinegar strips enamel so drink it via a straw.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I have read that as well for vinegar and other frankly acidic items like lemon juice.

[@susanwohlfarth3774]

Thank you. I love your channel.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@susanhager3477]

I was diagnosed 2 months ago, and T score is -2.7 in the neck area and -4.2 in the arm area. I'm 68yrs. I was given two choices the IV once a month for a year...and decided on the other choice, Alendronate Sodium 70mg. I'm concerned about my jaw. I do have dental problems. I have been listening to your videos. Is this a good medicine? I do have a fracture in my L2 lower back. Videos are very informative. Thank you.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

You’re welcome. Jaw necrosis is an issue with alendronate and with IV meds. I would consider asking your dentist their thoughts first. Also, consider a comprehensive program to do it without drugs if possible.

[@susanhager3477]

i would love not taking medicine. Thank you Dr.@@Dr_DougLucas

[@debjordan4399]

Fantastic information. Thank you.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@bernhardwalther]

Thanks for this video. Would you consider to make a video on parathorme ? I have osteopenia and it is elevated. Thus I bring out calcium out too fast from the bones. I don’t find video on the subject strangely ?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for this recommendation. We will add this to the list for possible future videos!

[@mapratt]

I have almost-stage-one breast cancer and stage 4B lung cancer. First, some breast cancer is triggered from progesterone, so my chiropractor pushing progesterone cream is not good advice. Second, various online "influencers" and their suggestions for the lung cancer would be another way for me to leave the planet before I wish. Oh, and yes, the acidic / alkaline debate drives me nuts. My dance with cancer has lasted seven years and, thanks to constant new developments, i hope will continue for many years to come - with the help of world-class medical professionals.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@Bugsybear2]

Thank you for your analysis of her video. As an RD, I'm very careful of recommendations as many of the aspects of nutrition remain very controversial. The most important recommendations that I make is to eliminate processed food (as much as realistic), consume sufficient high-quality protein, and reduce frequency of eating. The incidence of Type 2 diabetes is so prevalent that people should consider restricting carbohydrates in addition to reducing the frequency of eating.

[@DillyDahlia]

And nowhere does she ever say or post a disclaimer that she is not a physician and to check with your health care provider before doing anything she (or anyone on YT) recommends. In response to questions she gets, she repeatedly refers them to the “doctor” she mentions in all her osteoporosis videos…who is a naturopath, NOT an MD or DO, drumming up business for her. I don’t like that kind of behavior and unsubscribed from her channel.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@lisabraswell7616]

I agree with you. I have a family member that has a multi decade long eating disorder and had eliminated all meat from her diet. She doesn’t eat much either. It breaks my heart to see her engaging in behaviors that will ultimately create a huge problem. I can’t talk to her about it because she won’t listen. 😢

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I am very sorry to hear that. Thank you for sharing this!

[@bethlane3411]

I am 72. In an effort to lose weight, I limited meat, calories and dairy. I have developed severe osteoporosis. I have recently increased meat intake, added some dairy and increased fruit. I have gained back some weight but I am interested in knowing how often I should have bone density studies.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing your experience. It’s great that you’re taking steps to improve your diet and bone health. It’s great that you’re being proactive, keep up the good work! Checkout the video on my channel called "DEXA or REMS? What Should You Get?"

[@joannayedreyeski5188]

Great video Dr. Lucas! Your recommendations make most sense to me, for the bone health advise. Can you recommend specific exercises to improve bone density in the spine and neck?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Loading the spine can be difficult. Osteostrong uses load through the arms to generate multiples of body weight. Carrying heavy weights can do it but must be done with caution and direction. Marodyne reports improved spine BMD with use as well. The neck is very difficult to load and I’m not aware of any studies looking specifically at this.

[@joannayedreyeski5188]

Thank you!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for your support!@@joannayedreyeski5188

[@sheragalfrancis1797]

@joannayedreyeski5188 you could look at rebounding on a mini trampoline like a cellarciser. That stresses every cell in the body in a safe manner. A lot of good science on rebounding. Good luck.

[@smooth_pursuit]

Some types of yoga are great for loading the spine & neck

[@michelinebeauchemin6770]

Good video, common sensical and direct.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@afrothiti234]

Excellent. Thank you.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@redhen689]

I watched one of Glory B’s videos about osteoporosis about a month ago, and realized very quickly that she doesn’t know what she’s talking about. I’m in the process of trying to figure out which makes the most sense to me for overall health span.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this. It sounds like you could benefit from the next free Bone Foundations Masterclass we have coming up if you have not attended one before. You can find more information here -->www.optimalhumanhealth.com/build-bone

[@hollylorn131]

Could you do a video on hyperparathyroidism driving osteoporosis? Is there a way to heal the parathyroid so as to not have to have some pf the parathyroid glands removed with surgery? My PTH level is high but ionized calcium level is normal and vitamin D3 level is optimal at 80. Thank you! 🙏

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Yes, we will add this to our list!

[@PatriziaMarani]

Well, my experience of being a vegetarian, then vegan for 10 years or more suggests that's exactly the reason for having osteoporosis in the first place. I think I've come down with it because my diet did not include enough proteins, far from it, as legumes have little protein content and that little is not as bioavailable as that in meat, and it lacked precious minerals such as zinc not to mention vitamin K2 and d3. Calcium apparently abundant in some veggies becomes unavailable because of the many phytates and oxalates that bind to it! Also an imbalance in the diet in favour of way too many carbs was an issue, and low vitamin A as only a small quantity of carotenoids from veggies converts into retinol which is what our body requires. Even the omega3s from linseeds chia etc. are a scam as again our body much favours those from fish. Add to this diet, plenty of exercise, and you get a full blown burn out. In my case, it was The China Study that totally misled me...

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@kathyholland4942]

I’m a vegan and I have osteoporosis. I eat plenty of calcium in my vegan diet. I take fosamax, along with Vitamin D and calcium.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

How much protein and from what sources is the question.

[@phoenixgirl11]

Fosamax is horrible for your bones,specially the jaw bone and teeth.check it out

[@zsigzsag]

I've been Vegan almost 2 years now, due to high cholesterol (and ethical reasons). Dropped meat, dairy and unnecessary sugars (not to mention the cost of these foods!) My diet consists of whole foods only. This "Susan" whatever, is not someone I would listen to. I find these "factions", Vegans vs Ketos vs ominivores tiresome and frustrating. My one and only go to channel for nutrition facts is, Dr. Gil Carvalho, "Nutrition Made Simple". He is unbiased, highly credentialed, his research is science based. I'd like to see Dr. Lucas have him on the show sometime.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Hi there. Thank you for sharing! Eating a vegan diet does reliably lower cholesterol and both statin evidence as well as epidemiology studies on plant based diets support the association of reduced heart disease risk with reduced cholesterol. For some people this may be a good way to reduce risk. However, what I see in many plant based eaters is worsening of metabolic function and glucose metabolism as a result of the increased carbohydrate content. This is undoubtedly more risky than elevated cholesterol. I'll check out Dr. Gil Carvalho! Thanks for the recommendation. I'm not anti-vegan if it works for someone. I think there is remarkable genetic variability and we all need to find what works well for us.

[@marynlyn]

Very well done. Thank you.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you.

[@lebooshdiaries]

Super nice and informative video. I had watched your earlier video on PH and that was very good as well. I eat anything without worrying, aiming for just a well balanced diet. When you mentioned Glory B, I was hoping that you'd be talking about her methods on improving her bone density, like jumping 20 times with 30 second intervals. Hope you will do that one day Dr. It does seem relevant and right because from your interview with Osteo Strong founder, high impact that is 4.2x of body weight is needed to trigger bone growth, which points to jumping as potentially one of a very effective bone improvement exercise. You also mentioned in one of your videos about the Liftmore Trial where they did the jumping chin up with a drop landing - that is similar to jumping as well. Hope to hear your kind reply on your thoughts of jumping as one of the ways to improve BMD and maintain strong bones over the years. Thank you Dr!

[@barbs1298]

You won't hear a reply. He wants a consultation w/him for you.

[@lebooshdiaries]

@@barbs1298 It is understandable as he has many comments now. Dr always tries his best to reply (or his team members). He's replied me over 6-8 times in different videos, which is highly appreciated.

[@barbs1298]

@@lebooshdiaries That's great.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question. I haven't seen any data on jumping exclusively as an intervention. It makes sense but I don't know if we can contribute significant improvement exclusively to it.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

@barbs1298 why the hateful speech? I've corresponded with @lebooshdiaries dozens of times over the lifetime of my channel. If I've done something offensive to you I'm open to criticism. Your comment that I won't reply is offensive to me. I spend hours each week communicating with people that I know will never be patients. Yes, I run a company and need to generate revenue to pay my team and fund their benefits. What's wrong with that? I don't actually need to communicate with anyone on this channel to generate leads like most physicians who are using the platform for this purpose. Our mission is to educate and support those with osteoporosis. If you don't like how we do it you can seek your free physician level education somewhere else.

[@estelitabugarin5655]

Doc, pls help me with my spinal compression fracture on what to eat and supplements

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing this, unfortunately I cannot provide specific recommendations through this platform, I would need to know a little bit more about you as well. Checkout The OsteoCollective if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.optimalhumanhealth.com/osteocollective

[@MarthaHenson-zp1kw]

Doc. How about a podcast regarding oxalate toxicity from certain plants. That turned out to be the impetus for my osteoporosis and kidney stone.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for sharing. We will consider this!

[@MargaretUIUC]

I really appreciate your objective, sensible approach. Great video.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I appreciate that! Thank you for watching.

[@cherlgolja5402]

Doug you are amazing 🤩

[@Dr_DougLucas]

I appreciate your support, thank you for watching!

[@Taureanfitness]

Great video! Thank you so much. II enjoy the fact that you're so passionate about this. I will definitely subscribe to this channel. I'm only 41 and I was diagnosed at 20 with osteoporosis because of my chronic & severe Anorexia. You're absolutely right. There's so much conflicting and I take studies with a grain of salt. Especially because I've been a willing participant in so many studies over the years. Including Several on bone density.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for your support, I appreciate you sharing your story!

[@aziebhabte-selasie7329]

Thank you i lernd alot ffom this vidio.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for your support.@@aziebhabte-selasie7329

[@angelamorgan7877]

Ive been diagnosed with severe osteoporosis(Dexa scan). These scans show my osteoporosis is worsening. I’d like to take Boron but after watching this video I’m not sure I should because I take 20 mg Tamoxifen. I am a breast cancer survivor of 3 years now. I started with Tamoxifen almost 3 years ago after surgery & radiation. According to the video Boron can raise estridiol. Is that right? In addition, about two years ago I was diagnosed with HyperParathyroidism. I am not taking any bisphosphonates.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

[@sciencenurd3208]

The PH diagram that is shown several times seems confusing. The acid, alkaline labels on the right of the diagram seem to be backward. PH lower than 7 is acidic whereas the label shows alkaline, and the PH above 7 is alkaline whereas the label shows acid. Is there some other meaning behind that diagram that explains the reversal of the labels?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Good job picking up on my editors error. You are correct, the scale is upside down. I didn’t see that until after it was published.

[@ancientpathway7160]

It's all so confusing, for sure. I think that the Save Institute actually recommends 80% vegetables. I remember her saying that they don't believe necessarily that you should be 100% vegan. Thank you for siting that study about vegetarians having the highest fracture rate. I had read that a few years ago, and it definitely helped steer me in a better direction. We also know that the pharmaceutical solutions are harmful in the long run, so that is not an option. We need more studies on how to repair our bones. Thank you for your efforts.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you for watching, I appreciate your feedback!

[@wendym2544]

What do you think the vegetarians weren't/aren't' getting that makes them prone to "O"? I thought you might have looked into a bit. Thank you.

[@ancientpathway7160]

@@wendym2544 I have run across videos that explain that, but I'm sorry - I don't remember the specifics.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

@@wendym2544 A few ways to look at this. 1. Protein deficiency either in amount or quality. 2. gut dysfunction from anti-nutrients inhibiting absorption.

[@wendym2544]

@@Dr_DougLucas Thank you. I hope it's not gut dysfunction from the anti-nutrients creating problems. I eat a ton of veges and grains that are said to have anti-nutrients. I don't have any gut issues that I know of. I'm in my early 60's. I do take the precautions that I know about, such as soaking grains/nuts overnight. I do get protein from veges, nuts and quality meat and fish, and eggs. I don't plan to have my bones tested because the truth is, even if I found out I had "O", I wouldn't do anything different than I'm doing now. I don't believe medication is an option and I believe in healthy whole foods and "doing no harm" first, over supplements. I don't say that in a "cocky" manner, but I do resistance training with weights and body weight, and I walk every day, don't drink alcohol, and have my caffeine consumption down to practically nothing, and will soon be caffeine free. So I feel I'm doing all I can. Thanks for the video and your reply. You reply makes sense. I've added a bit more well sourced meat and fish to my diet to make sure I get enough protein. Let's just hope the anti-n's don't get me! (seriously :) )

[@JPL-NC]

Thank you for your video.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thanks for watching!

[@magpiegirl3783]

Great breakdown here. Thanks. If a person has followed a particular diet or exercise routine and still gets osteoporosis, aside from other predisposing factors, one could not argue that the original diet or exercise was successful in maintaining bone. To claim a vegetarian diet is the way to reverse osteoporosis having acquired the condition on a vegan diet, does not stack up. A vegan diet may allow people to concentrate on less processed, more whole food intake which is great, but vegans and meat eaters get osteo, so this is really a waste of time in the space of trying to optimise bone health. It’s more likely that particular foods introduced to the diet and/or supplements may create a better environment for bone health. I’ve watched Gloria B a few times and whilst she is passionate and meaning well, I’ve not gained any insights to osteo. I stick to medically qualified and science based presenters who are experienced in this specific area.

[@theresa94010]

Your logic makes sense to me.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Thank you so much for sharing this!