What went wrong with Benchmade Dacian? Root cause identified.

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CBRx

CBRx

Күн бұрын

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@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
Some new information has recently come to light that caused me question some of my findings and conclusions in the RCA. I removed a portion of this video to prevent dissemination of erroneous information.
@rhinosaur.
@rhinosaur. Ай бұрын
A very commendable move.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@rhinosaur. Appreciate your help! Now I have a more interesting puzzle to solve!
@babayaga6680
@babayaga6680 Ай бұрын
CBRx I just looked at my Dacian I received in the mail yesterday under magnification and the jimping is not cut sharp with a 90 degree angle like you mentioned. It is actually rounded and cut like the way you explained it should be cut for strength. I think that might be the portion of video you removed as I cannot find it now. I wonder if it is possible the cut was changed after the first batch? or if benchmade realized there mistakes? Maybe the tooling was in a more worn down state that cut my blade? Very interesting.
@adadadad8251
@adadadad8251 Ай бұрын
oh well
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
Knife People, I would like to know if you’re ok with me featuring some of the sponsors’ products in my videos as long as they are not knives? This way I can sustain the tempo of new knife reviews. Let me know!
@phthano2580
@phthano2580 Ай бұрын
Yes definitely ok with it
@mangobadger
@mangobadger Ай бұрын
We all know the drill. Go for it!
@thehumblehearth
@thehumblehearth Ай бұрын
Yes
@OSK352
@OSK352 Ай бұрын
Of course! No need to ask but appreciate the transparency and honesty. It means a lot. Thanks a bunch for the knowledge you provide.
@mattboston454
@mattboston454 Ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@samuraiS30v
@samuraiS30v Ай бұрын
Few people understand or appreciate how informative and scientifically accurate. This video was. Well done, sir.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
Thank you very much! The industry needs to know we’re not just a gray mass of uneducated consumers.
@kush662
@kush662 Ай бұрын
I’m glad you received sponsors! Congrats, and love these vids which keeps knife companies accountable! I hope they are watching too and improve. Definitely want more scientific and testing vids!
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@kush662 I KNOW they are watching. The fact that they sent product samples to @Metal_Complex and @GideonTactical is evidence that they are trying to re-take the social media space. Unfortunately, the PR director and VP of marketing @BenchmadeKnifeCompany don’t watch KnifeTube 20-40 hours a week, or they would know that the big knife channels have used Benchmade knives as trolling meme for the last 5-6 years.
@Chappvid
@Chappvid Ай бұрын
Once again thank you for the thorough analysis. I hope they care enough to listen to you.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@Chappvid Since Les de Asis passed, the company has been overtaken by The Committee that only cares about lining their pockets. Nothing wrong with that in a free market society, but it can be done in a balanced manner, without screwing the end user. Spyderco and Hogue are great examples of corporations doing well with by delivering good. Thanks for subscribing!
@ExtraCrispy357
@ExtraCrispy357 Ай бұрын
Dude - I just watched this video to the end and MUST COMMENT AGAIN! This guy CBRx ROCKS!!! I really hope someone from Benchmade watches this. This is some professional education and advice for us as knife users AND for Benchmade as a knife maker coming from a HUGE benchmade fan who also happens to have some serious engineering chops! THIS VIDEO IS LIKE A TOUR DE FORCE! So impressed! Amazing collection you have there CBRx! Thanks again for taking so much time to make this video and provide all this education - much appreciated! I hope Benchmade appreciates it too, because you've definitely given them a lot to think about!
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@ExtraCrispy357 Welcome to the Tribe! I seriously doubt they are listening to a channel with fewer than 100K subscribers. Plus they think that sending a knife for review to a KZbinr is a holy grail of “influencing” - a free Benchmade?! Redneck paradise so high praise is what they feel entitled to. Also, and this isn’t visible to buyers, ever since the 2020 knife boom fueled by government handouts, they show total disregard for a small retailer. Minimum orders are in the tens of thousands of dollars now, and with the end of freeloading fest, the megastores like REI, Scheels, KnifeCenter, etc. are adding inexpensive brands of equal or higher quality. @benchmadeknifecompany is going to have a rude awakening…
@floridaman727
@floridaman727 Ай бұрын
I’m starting to think you enjoy the voluntary pain and misery of buying new Benchmade knives to watch them fail 😂
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
I enjoy more when the industry corrects their mistakes after my videos point them out. So far Microtech, Vosteed, Medford, and Remette have done so. I’m happy even though there was no “thank you” note from any of them 🫡
@mattboston454
@mattboston454 Ай бұрын
I loved this one! Pretty sure you're becoming my favorite knife channel. Keep doing what you are doing.
@ErnieLinNH
@ErnieLinNH Ай бұрын
So glad I stumbled on your site. Thank you for the very informed adult content. I also want to thank you for the generosity of your time and effort. Something I sometimes admittedly do take for granted.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@ErnieLinNH Are you kidding me? I love every minute of this! Thanks for subscribing!
@mattnordlich184
@mattnordlich184 Ай бұрын
Excellent and right on point. Benchmade won’t learn until it start losing market share.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
“Right on point” indeed… 🥲
@mattnordlich184
@mattnordlich184 Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx 😅
@muskietime
@muskietime Ай бұрын
That was the absolutely Best review of a broken knife I have ever seen! I am so close to buying this knife but you hit so many of my concerns. Wonder if Benchmade will ever see your video? Most important to me is getting this knife: A. Deeper in my pocket B. Being able to horizontal carry on occasion Be well.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@muskietime The horizontal carry is not feasible for this sheath. The knife sits very shallow in the pocket. @GideonTactical has a recent video with some alternatives that you might like!
@bigglock5478
@bigglock5478 Ай бұрын
Nice to see that you got a sponsor. Well deserved
@chrisreuther4546
@chrisreuther4546 Ай бұрын
Great video! Love the review of the failure... and your assessment of American production. I couldn't agree more with your assessment of their pricing.
@johnhughes905
@johnhughes905 Ай бұрын
Nice RCA! Logical, dispassionate, and I learned a little ("and by little...I mean a lot!). In addition to rounding out the valleys, I just wonder if they could stop the crenelations distally at the point where the primary bevel meets the spine. Likely would not hurt the function. Thanks for your explanations.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
That was the exact point I made intuitively in the first video about the Dacian. “They should have stopped 3-4 jimpings earlier” and then it snapped in the fourth notch! Thanks for subscribing!
@johnhughes905
@johnhughes905 Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx You're right!
@mrcheesefood1
@mrcheesefood1 Ай бұрын
Very well said. I love Benchmade and have 35 of them but recently I've found myself leaning towards Hogue, Vosteed and even just purchased a Piratech Kraken because you get so much more knife for the money.
@jonbeck5945
@jonbeck5945 Ай бұрын
I’m watching this and I immediately grabbed 5 of my knives randomly. Every last one of them has radiused jimping. This includes a Sebenza, an Umnumzaan, a Kershaw Launch 16, an Arcane design and a Kizer Militaw. How is it all these Chinese and American companies can do jimping correctly but Benchmade can’t be bothered? Another big fail.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@jonbeck5945 Les de Asis has passed away leaving the company to his son. I’ll let you deduce the rest. Thanks for subscribing!
@BrandonGavin_EDC
@BrandonGavin_EDC Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRxever since that prices have went to pretty absurd levels and quality has gone downhill. Not to mention their designs.
@projectblitz7290
@projectblitz7290 Ай бұрын
Pulling on my low level materials engineering lab memories from back in college (I'm not an expert and though I have an engineering degree, my work isn't heavy on the engineer technical side so grains of salt here), I think the cause of the break might have to do with the jimping on the spine. It looks like each notch results in a slightly smaller cross section relative to the areas of the blade on either side of a given notch so it seems like those notches are natural stress concentration points even if they are perfectly rounded because they still represent a break in the smooth progression of the moment area. Additionally because of the significant distal taper, the notches moving towards the handle increases significantly in cross sectional area compared to the notches moving towards the tip such that visually I would estimate at least a 10% increase in cross sectional area minimum moving from any given notch to the next notch towards the handle. Meaning the notches towards the tip are massively more stressed than points towards the handle. I mean knives with a distal tappers tend to have weaker points but I think the notches just provided concentrated stress points. A chip on the edge side would perfectly break that knife along any of those perfect stress points if the force was higher than the fracture point which I assume would be easier to achieve in this design where the stress points are so pronounced at the tip. Watching part of your original video, it looked like the break occurred when the tip of the blade was buried deep enough where it was fully captured and kept from flexing so that the stresses that would have normally been distributed across the whole tip were concentrated at the stress point at the specific notch where it broke. Also I think that the breakage looking kind of smooth might be because it's a powder metal so the grain structure's really fine and uniform and the dislocations the break propagated through might have just been super tiny. Again I'm not qualified enough to speak on any of this but I have studied enough to throw some hypothesis out there.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@projectblitz7290 I think you’re spot on. I also think that the catalyst for the fracture was a chip in the edge that formed when I was cutting the plastic strap. The fault line runs from the jumping to that chip
@knifecoop001
@knifecoop001 Ай бұрын
Great post mortem on the BM break, you are spot on with respect to the square jigging toward the tip of the knife created potential stress areas.
@MrCaissed
@MrCaissed Ай бұрын
Hi CB, im curious if that blade broke between the jimping. I spoke too soon. My wife said “ why are you watching “….. shush I’m in class right now! I’ve been thinking about the relief cuts for frame locking knives. Why not cut a curve instead of a 90 degree angle at each end of the relief cut and mill out the middle. And a nit pic of mine face the relief cut towards the blade.
@JD-uy5js
@JD-uy5js Ай бұрын
knife was never meant to be hammered into a tree and then torqued side to side...also strength is not the same as toughness.
@johngibson4823
@johngibson4823 Ай бұрын
Great job good information Thanks
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@johngibson4823 thanks for watching my channel! You’re becoming a frequent commenter, I always appreciate that!
@just9911
@just9911 Ай бұрын
What’s the spine thickness at the point where the break happened?
@BrandonGavin_EDC
@BrandonGavin_EDC Ай бұрын
Thick enough to not snap getting it out of a tree I’d say.
@TimsSchoolOfFish
@TimsSchoolOfFish Ай бұрын
Excellent as always👊🏻
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@TimsSchoolOfFish Thanks! 👍
@TimsSchoolOfFish
@TimsSchoolOfFish Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx You’re welcome!
@TimsSchoolOfFish
@TimsSchoolOfFish Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx You’re welcome
@mel87123
@mel87123 Ай бұрын
That is good advice that you provided to Benchmade at the end. Hopefully, they will listen!
@NonScientificBladeTesting
@NonScientificBladeTesting Ай бұрын
Love it you are spot on! I am so glad i found channels like outpost76 or yours for a long time i couldnt understand why my knives performed so bad even though they had these "super" steels
@LadyPictureShow72
@LadyPictureShow72 Ай бұрын
watched with much attention. thank you for your video.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@LadyPictureShow72 Glad you liked it! Thanks for subscribing!
@transparentknives
@transparentknives Ай бұрын
I would also consider the possibility of poor heat treatment (not just Rockwell hardness). Possibly oversoaking leading to grain growth and reduced toughness for what is expected at the same hardness. Would you be interested in a KZbin live (or prerecorded conversation, either is fine with me) discussing philosophies and testing methods? I completely agree with you on some things and disagree on a couple others so I think it would be a fun conversation.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@transparentknives Thanks for watching and commenting. To answer your question: I chose not to do live shows after trying a couple of times and realizing that I tend to rant in that format. What I would be very interested in is to compare the traditional RW test results, on a calibrated tester, to the Leeb test method. For example, a blind test where you send me a few blades of known hardness and I test them live and then open a sealed envelope with your results. Something like that would add value and increase the communal knowledge more than two supernerds ranting at each other 😂
@BrandonGavin_EDC
@BrandonGavin_EDC Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRxthat would be cool because Transparent Knives does some of the best Heat treatments I ever seen on knives, I hope one day to have a reblade of his.
@transparentknives
@transparentknives Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx I'd be happy to do that, I did send some samples to Blade Lab (another channel) to do the same thing
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@transparentknives I think I saw that video. Feel free to email me to address in the channel description. Or lmk where I can send you my shipping address. If you could send the specs for RW tester that you are using, that would greatly help in estimating the margin of error: make, model, cert with date/measured values etc.
@transparentknives
@transparentknives Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx Sounds good, I'm about to get a fresh cert (deadline approaching anyway) so we can know there wasn't any degradation due to it being near calibration time. I get it annually calibrated at MicroCalibrations, so I can send pics of the papers.
@papatechie
@papatechie Ай бұрын
Came for the BM thumbnail...stayed for the Ishikawa cause and effect! Lead the way!
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@papatechie Glad you liked it! Question what level Kaizen belt are you? 🤣
@papatechie
@papatechie Ай бұрын
@CuttingBoardRx Ah Sensei, only Six Sigma Green!
@blanken20
@blanken20 Ай бұрын
Great video again! Just wanna point out though that 420hc is one of the toughest steels out there, as tough as 3v at the same HRC according to Dr Larrin's testing.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing this out. I was obviously distracted and was thinking of 440C.
@blanken20
@blanken20 Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx Yeah I get it, the whole 400 range can get confusing. I only remember this because my 420hc blade on my leatherman is mainly used as a prybar and it never breaks 😂 But either way I think your analysis on the geometry being the issue is on point.
@DXSharpening
@DXSharpening Ай бұрын
So refreshing to finally hear a bigger voice reemphasizing that steel must be heat treated properly
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@DXSharpening Spot on. The #1 reason to even consider MagnaCut is that it can be “persuaded” to act as S90V, LC200N and Cruwear simultaneously. But BM seemingly sticks to “medieval” techniques developed for 154CM and 440A.
@DXSharpening
@DXSharpening Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx I know you had some issues with Hogues magnacut on the Deka a few months ago, but I recently heard they've improved. Do you know anything about that?
@kalichisucks5607
@kalichisucks5607 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the educational content, the more i watch knife content the more i enjoy channel like yours, bigbrownbears and bladestellnerds who provide actual science based testing and approaches when reviewing or discussing knives
@drpeemac
@drpeemac 18 күн бұрын
DBK done the testing on some knife conclusion was jimping is the culprit..it weakens the knife ...some time air bubbles in the metal also weakens it...
@ExtraCrispy357
@ExtraCrispy357 Ай бұрын
Wow! Well said! This video was very informative and well done. I learned a lot. I just subscribed to your channel. Thank you.
@simartnullnet
@simartnullnet Ай бұрын
My theory about Benchmade's prices is that they are trying to make them profitable for dealers, specifically local brick and mortar dealers. If you find a dealer who discounts below the minimum advertised price, the discount is substantial. I'm not going to name names because I don't want to get anyone in trouble. But I think dealers (not Benchmade) are benefitting from Benchmade's prices, and that may not be a bad thing.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
Benchmade sells a full production knife to a distributor for 60% off MSRP. The distributor passes it to a brick and mortar or online retailer with 10% markup. The retailer must not advertise it below MAP or MSRP. My guys sell it in stores for 30% off MSRP and still make 20% profit.
@JCOwens-zq6fd
@JCOwens-zq6fd Ай бұрын
Imo running that jimping along the entire length of the spine definitely played a big part in it's failure. It creates stress risers. Especially if left to square with hard shoulders as you pointed out. Just like a disposable razor knife blade being scored helps it break at those predetermined points. Rounding those off would help a lot.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@JCOwens-zq6fd Precisely! Thanks for commenting!
@CaptSeeryus
@CaptSeeryus 9 күн бұрын
Once the son took over it was kinda downhill from there. Did BM ever give you a replacement at least?
@ExtraCrispy357
@ExtraCrispy357 Ай бұрын
Benchmade needs to hire CBRx NOW! If not, Spyderco will! Wow - this video really shows the importance of an engineer's knowledge and perspective in design! The knife cannot just be designed from an artistic/aesthetic viewpoint, or even only from a functional viewpoint of an experienced user. Just like drawing up the plans for a building, you can have an amazing architect who can design a beautiful, highly functional structure, but you still need an engineer's analysis to identify any structural weaknesses, and plan how to make the building sufficiently strong. This video was like a "mike-drop" from CBRx! BOOM!
@slavabrowning7926
@slavabrowning7926 Ай бұрын
Wow this was very interesting I learned alot thank you
@Frd4Lf
@Frd4Lf Ай бұрын
Does jimping make blade weak? Would you buy this knie?
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@Frd4Lf I would not buy this knife again. If you must have a small MagnaCut fixed blade, there’s a German-made knife called Vigtig vs. Wild. Knife Center has it for $165 and it is awesome. Otherwise, any CPM-3V blade is the right choice.
@gueomduduto
@gueomduduto Ай бұрын
When the designer inspired by kitkat 😅 Meticulous content as always.. great work!
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@gueomduduto Oh! That’s a great tagline! My videos get the best comments from smartest, funniest and pleasantly sarcastic people! Thanks for subscribing!
@atx1459
@atx1459 Ай бұрын
Excellent video.
@DXSharpening
@DXSharpening Ай бұрын
Gotta stay up to date with the dxsharpening videos 😎
@4coopdawg
@4coopdawg Ай бұрын
Did they replace it for you ?
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
My actions are not covered by the warranty, as I mentioned in the first video about this knife. I will not be sending it in, unless @BenchmadeKnifeCompany asks me to send it to them for a full-up proper Root Cause Analysis. Which I seriously doubt they would.
@rhinosaur.
@rhinosaur. Ай бұрын
Is the jimping on the Dacian square? I haven't handled one but in all the pics and videos it looks more U-shaped than square. Also 420 is significantly stronger than Magnacut. And it's usually quite soft at 55-57 HRC so less likely to snap.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
Yo are correct on both points. The jumping is rounder off at the bottom but crisp and sharp at the top. I still believe that it’s the cause of the breaking
@rhinosaur.
@rhinosaur. Ай бұрын
Agreed. I think the easiest solution would be simply not extending the jimping so far forward.
@BrandonGavin_EDC
@BrandonGavin_EDC Ай бұрын
The HRC is decent and well within their stated spec, but I wonder if their temper was off? I know if they don’t follow that protocol or have a poor one that could affect how tough the steel actually is despite having a decent HRC.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
That’s very likely. Also if they temper at lower temp. and then cryo it. As you know from Dr Thomas video, if cryo doesn’t occur immediately, due to some logistical hiccup, then the whole batch is junk.
@davidpm9874
@davidpm9874 Ай бұрын
Maybe the breaking line is so flat because of inconsistences in the cpm process just like what Survive! Knives found in their magnacut knives.
@BrandonGavin_EDC
@BrandonGavin_EDC Ай бұрын
Soon as I see Magnacut on a knife I immediately find out what HRC it is. I liked a new lion steel knife coming out in it and I knew it would be too soft and what do you know. 59-60 HRC!! Like it’s not even worth using below 62. If it’s not at least 62-64 I won’t consider it.
@Brian-rj5rl
@Brian-rj5rl Ай бұрын
The blade looks ridiculous with jimping down the spine of the blade. I think marketing dept is designing these, without input from engineers. Likely stress riser forming at the chip and the jimping notch. Hard say if it is also poor heat treat recipe, but that is very likely.
@RICH21716
@RICH21716 Ай бұрын
Root cause ? You took a thin EDC knife designed as a slicer, hammered it into a tree, and bent it laterally. There are knives designed to do that, this isn't 1.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@RICH21716 Thanks for watching.
@wayneanderson991
@wayneanderson991 Ай бұрын
It is clear to me that Benchmade has lost it's way in the knife world. Marketing hype over properly designed and tested products along with ridiculous pricing will lead to their demise with Benchmade supporters. I am one of their lost supporters.
@barrycole
@barrycole Ай бұрын
The gimping was excessive nearing the tip. Of course it would fail under side loads.
@blockbuster6076
@blockbuster6076 Ай бұрын
On Sog Altair XR just made a radius steps
@NetshadeX
@NetshadeX Ай бұрын
Without even having seen the video yet I can tell you what went wrong is outdoor use of a thin, above 60 HRC knife.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
Without looking at your YT profile, I can tell you spent the last 3 years under a rock and missed the whole "MagnaCut is a super steel" hype. I can take as thinn and longer 3V blade at 60+ HRC to that tree, hammer it in 2 inches deep and then stand and bounce on it and it'll do just fine.
@ras9182
@ras9182 Ай бұрын
Notch effect fracture.... Stress in bottom corner of notch. Replace with rounded gimp. (Jump)
@adadadad8251
@adadadad8251 Ай бұрын
sorry, benchmade, you are not interesting anymore. too expensive, boring steels with "safe" heat treatment, plastic handles on half of your product line... btw, 2/3 of my edc folders are bm or hk made by bm (all between 2011 and 2016). after that period bm released 2-3 interesting for me models. sad.
@windowbreezes
@windowbreezes Ай бұрын
i miss the HK line
@adadadad8251
@adadadad8251 Ай бұрын
@@windowbreezes same. they were fairly priced benchmade's black line
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
What’s the most annoying thing is about the company, they seem to be disassociating themselves from military and police. The 30% discount is gone. The PX one MCX stores don’t get any new models, and they sacrifice solid black class lines to accommodate these junk knives like Dacian and Intersect.
@BrandonGavin_EDC
@BrandonGavin_EDC Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRxthat’s sad, I see old video of collectors with all these cool designs that are way better than anything now. The re release of that 710 is one of the best knives they have IMO but I can’t pay $400 for the base model of it when it has aluminum scales. Like so many companies would make that same knife in aluminum and a decent steel like S35VN, M390, S45VN, S30V etc and charge $150 for it. To their credit it has S90V but so many companies use that now and they are $200 knives with titanium scales too.
@erictalkington5674
@erictalkington5674 Ай бұрын
Personally I don't even pay, attention to the steel type because they all dull, they all are tough enough when used properly and they can all break when given enough force. I just Puck the ones I, like and go with it lol. Couldn't care less about the steel as long as it's not made from lead lol.
@rushshortley5181
@rushshortley5181 Ай бұрын
I suggest you ask Larrin Thomas to comment on this issue regarding this knife.
@Brian-rj5rl
@Brian-rj5rl Ай бұрын
More like hiring him or a metallurgist to sample a number of blades from heat treat, doing testing and analysis. Not a ton of value from a YT comment, it would only be anecdotal.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
That’s a good idea, however Crucible Industriesis is likely bound by Non Disclosure Agreements with their MagnaCut clientele so he will be unlikely to make a public comment regarding their heat treatment. @knifesteelnerds if you can, chime in please.
@airiksknifereviews9548
@airiksknifereviews9548 Ай бұрын
It only takes one bad egg to lose a potential lifetime customer. That's how my Benchmade experience went.
@Bo_Yeshua
@Bo_Yeshua Ай бұрын
Yeah i regret getting mine
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
No need to regret! Either use it as a mild duty backup or return to seller. There was one on BHQ Bargain bin for $194 because of snail trails on the coating. They sanitized it out in less than 24 hours: heavens forbid people find out that a $270 knife looks used after one pull out of the sheath…
@Bo_Yeshua
@Bo_Yeshua Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx the sheath is shoddy but thanks for advice
@samblount2541
@samblount2541 Ай бұрын
How can this be avoided? Dont hammer it into a tree and crank on it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
Every time I do this to a folding knife in a video, there are at least 5 comments “if you gonna do this, use a fixed blade!” But ya know, I love all comments from most smartest viewers! Thanks for subscribing!
@PepperGeorge
@PepperGeorge Ай бұрын
Highly scientific: I did not use excessive force, because I paid $270 + tax 😄
@rayhinojosa9721
@rayhinojosa9721 Ай бұрын
Don’t stab trees 😂
@The_RC_Guru
@The_RC_Guru Ай бұрын
Benchmade don’t care. They’ll keep on relying on their old fan base and new unsuspecting buyers thinking more $ = better quality until their name is absolute mud. The current owners and management is running it into the ground knowing it’s going to take awhile for their predecessors reputation to wear out.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
If one out of ten buyers watches an honest review BEFORE buying a knife, i will be satisfied.
@ak471911able
@ak471911able 20 күн бұрын
It seems ozark trail makes better knives at a fraction of the price 🤷
@Jeffrose_
@Jeffrose_ Ай бұрын
I would like to have seen you test closer to the tip on the flat above the edge. Therefore your test for me anyway was inconclusive.
@Rascal77s
@Rascal77s Ай бұрын
420HC is tougher than magnacut.
@heres_the_sauce
@heres_the_sauce Ай бұрын
Or just don’t use jimping all the way to the tip. Dumb design doesn’t need that
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 Ай бұрын
Im not understanding the hype for magnacut? An i don't believe that knife should cost $270. Seems extremely overpriced. Why didn't you check the hardness near the break? Couldn't the machine grinding over heat the steel? Ive seen a lot of knives break at jimping , definitely a added weakness. Personally i Couldn't imagine buying that when i can get a same size knife in 14c28n for $30. I don't believe magnacut is a better steel its just the current money maker.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
That whole indoctrination that @KnifeCenter and @BladeHQ are currently engaged in: you should have a fixed blade EDC knife is a recent development. I paid $200 for Mike Irie hand made knife with a hand made leather sheath and it’s beautiful.
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx well the one thing these outrageous prices have brought is my will to make my own. I have a few blanks from Lauri with what they call a progressive heat treatment. This makes the cutting edge 62-63. I also have 2 regular heat treatment to test. When winter comes I will forge some 5160 and I have a few old German saw blades. Making knives is not rocket science. I guess with manufacturing moving guys like me. The ones that fixed everything from a boat to a tower crane. We are getting rather rare. I wouldn't blame just the knife sellers youtube influencers pushed the fixed-blade thing hard. Every video about survival they say I prefer a fixed blade because less moving parts. It must be full tang. Yet I've been through many survival courses. I was even a part of Ranger school. Back when it had a Desert phase. We used buck lock back but every coarse had loner knives that we traditional 2blade. It's all about skills not indestructible 3 pounds of steel that can't cut but chops. Anyway that's my opinion. You deserve to test some gear. That doesn't change my mind on how you do your reviews. Personally I don't care if they give you free knives as long as you don't change your standards. Honesty is up to you. I will believe you until you give me a reason not to. Morals and ethics are something very much in need nowadays.
@Tym-mf4of
@Tym-mf4of Ай бұрын
You stabbed a tree…
@garyjohnson7133
@garyjohnson7133 Ай бұрын
Bench made way over priced!
@patrickmccrea3455
@patrickmccrea3455 Ай бұрын
More benchmade junk😮
@Frd4Lf
@Frd4Lf Ай бұрын
Seems like this knife is garbage 🗑?
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@Frd4Lf Well, if you hang out with posers, it’s a perfect knife. If you need a tool, it’s shit. It delivers all the disadvantages of carrying a fixed blade and none of the advantages.
@FrankCastle-he8fl
@FrankCastle-he8fl Ай бұрын
It's a Benchmade what did you expect
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
There was the time when I would have strongly disagree, but when Les de Asis passed, his son took over and now the company is ran by committee of marketeers. I see more care from cheap Chinese brands. Shameful.
@pattrass7692
@pattrass7692 Ай бұрын
Benchmade sucks
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
@@pattrass7692 thanks for watching
@elde667
@elde667 Ай бұрын
Silly premise for a knife vid. Unsubbed.
@arkansas_edc
@arkansas_edc Ай бұрын
No need to announce your exit, just go!
@ErnieLinNH
@ErnieLinNH Ай бұрын
?
@elde667
@elde667 Ай бұрын
@@arkansas_edcI’m from arkansas so I don’t know any better. Thanks for the heads-up ‘ol buddy.
@thefunky_brassmonkey
@thefunky_brassmonkey Ай бұрын
The only thing silly is the comment that has no premise.
@CuttingBoardRx
@CuttingBoardRx Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
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