What WICKED is Really About? The Dark Origins of Oz's Most Misunderstood Villain...

[@claragomezb.7849]

“The cost of difference” wow. Strong line

[@atiqahf]

That sentence was profound!

[@fastpray353]

True

[@fastpray353]

Just like racial division for example but not the only.

[@chaddavis9732]

Wow! Looks absolutely horrible. I've been a fan of the original since I was a kid watching it with my grandma and I'm not usually a fan of musicals!

[@Metalpazallteway]

The cost of difference Answer: Loss

[@TerminallyPerky]

Showing Glinda is not “good” and Elphaba is not “bad”. It’s the people around them that give them these names. And they act accordingly. Call someone “stupid” or “worthless” enough times, and they begin to feel- and then- act that way. You can shape someone else’s life and influence your own life without even meaning to.

[@LaNayHarold-Harding]

Manifesting

[@kimt.6322]

Just imagine the painful destruction we yield when we mean to. 😮

[@askedofgod9067]

Well… I think that’s all relative. Bully’s can make people bitter and vengeful. They can also have the total opposite effect. I was bullied when I was younger, I grew not too hate, but to standup for myself. Both my daughters were bullied in school also, funny tho, because they are successful adults now with their own family. It has also been proven that Nature VS Nuture is really not a thing. 😂

[@TheSapphireLeo]

​@@askedofgod9067And also insult to injury to bulls and animals colonialism also exploits?

[@natashaswain7478]

Very true

[@NightmareDaem]

Every time I watch wicked my heart breaks for her because I know what it is like to be lonely and to be judged in life based on people’s prejudices because they don’t understand so every time I watch wicked I cry because she’s not evil she’s just wanting to be accepted

[@renepassa1969]

It's not that deep.

[@Nyxiali]

I mean it kinda is

[@LaNayHarold-Harding]

🤭 ​@@renepassa1969

[@LaNayHarold-Harding]

​@@Nyxiali💯

[@LaNayHarold-Harding]

🙏🏽

[@fina81]

Wicked is about standing up to authority, standing for the truth no matter what and speaking that truth to power and and being subjected to character assassination because of it! It’s also about how people will love you and give you power as long as you go along with the narrative. It’s been my favorite musical since 2004 when I first heard it on CD while working as a singing waitress. It is a work of art.

[@WaggishChit]

The Wizard of Oz has always had a dark side. When Dorothy made it back to the farm no one believed her and thought she went mad from the trauma of the storm. So they sent her to the doctor who gave her electro shock therapy

[@Lollipop.er42]

Is that in the book?

[@richardlange72]

There is no book called wizard of Oz.

[@kittmeow7192]

The first book is called wicked

[@isabellacam4775]

​@@richardlange72 yes there is. I have it. Written a very long time ago

[@richardlange72]

@kittmeow7192 no it's not

[@SfromWisconsin]

If you get a chance to read the Oz books, you'll find a lot of darkness and political turmoil. Unfortunately, many people watch the Judy Garland movie version and think they know everything there is to know about Oz.

[@WaggishChit]

Thank you! Was worried no one remembered

[@Nevada_Dan]

@@WaggishChit Remembered what...?

[@senister14]

​@@Nevada_Dan the books.

[@senister14]

Not to mention all the extra movies.

[@brookeoke3374]

Have to admit it’s upsetting that all of L Frank Baums work has gotten twisted into this. The books was originally written because his niece Dorothy passed away, and to help with his wife and son’s grief he wrote the wizard of oz so they could hear all about her adventures. People wrote to him, adults and children and he added their stories and characters to the books. Read the books you won’t regret it.

[@rosemadder5547]

The politics and world in Wicked is so deep and fantastic and beautifully written. Elphaba's character has helped me a lot. I read it before the play etc. and have been so excited to see it hit so many people.

[@thegadflygang5381]

Its not deep. Just moral relativism

[@ryleenikola5734]

I was thinking this. Myat be a kid who wrote it, not much life experience. Idk. Not being mean. ​@thegadflygang5381

[@fastpray353]

Exactly how I see it!!

[@fastpray353]

@@thegadflygang5381no one needed your comment. It’s as she said it is.

[@mcvicarross7]

​@@fastpray353I'm offended by you being offended by he his comment...!! 😂

[@JoeRiver444]

I look forward to the "No one Mourns The Wicked", "Defying Gravity", " Thank Goodness" and " For Good" scenes and performances!!

[@nicloren2220]

it's two parts , so for good isn't going to be in this one probably

[@GizmoMaltese]

Defying Gravity? I remember that from Glee. I never saw Wicked the musical.

[@rustyshackleford6035]

Are they all going to be the 1st movie seems like they should save something for part 2 ?

[@4ngel412]

@@rustyshackleford6035the movie ends on defying gravity:) it’s really beautiful

[@alirae3663]

@@4ngel412I really thought they might end right after the battle cry! Just shocking transition to black

[@hsanchezisidora]

I like that elphaba understood her real power, embraced it and never let her hand twist with great conviction on what she felt was right, even if the world turned against her after she found acceptance.

[@jamesmodlin6279]

Its another sympathy for the devil story. Curella. Maleficent. The joker. Now the Wicked Witch. Its a theme trend.

[@Kaislyng]

Wise soul ^

[@aqua8697]

Even "Lucifer" the series

[@lovelyscorp79]

The devil wasn't born to be the devil. He chose to be the devil. Alphaba was born different. It was society that made her wicked. The 2 are not even in the same ballpark. The fact the story is told of a woman, someone with no power or say in her life, is the give away to this truth. With the devil first being one of the most revered beings in known history. Who had every choice of what he wanted for his life. And choosing to create evil. They are sisters in the book. But even before her baby sisters birth alphaba is aware of her difference. And the lack of love for her from her parents. Later exacerbated by the birth of her little sister and evident in her parents sending her away at such a young age. Becoming the embodiment of all the things the society around her hates in themselves. No one would ever choose that. No one. And it's always women subjected to these roles. If anything, the injustice in maleificent is her being called a moor. But she too is made who she became to be. And even still defied their labels to love aurora. The devil has no love in him. Vanquishing it for evil. The only being in all of history to remain unforgivable by the creator. Before his choice, evil did not exist.

[@domotemujin7780]

Girl you need a Prozac 🤡

[@MisssKayy]

You don’t know the story of wicked. This character was never the devil. But if you read the Bible you would say the story of Lucifer is a sympathy story?🙄🙄🤔

[@Carro_on_pxws]

The message behind wicked: dont drink Green alcohol suplied by a random man you’re having an affair with, otherwise you’ll have a socially unacceptable green kid who’s friend has main character syndrome

[@KiaraLionessTM]

One thing I’m most looking forward to in this movie is when she flies above all of Oz singing Defying Gravity with that powerful amazing voice If they can make that happen exactly like in the musical then I will literally be sooo darn happy 😫😁🥰❤️

[@carriessweetslots4274]

so what did you think? I think she absolutely CRUSHED it

[@BasedMarysMemoirs]

I think Grande's IRL conduct and "can do no wrong" deceitfulness lost her title as the "good" witch, rather, earned "gaunt adrenachrome" witch. @@carriessweetslots4274

[@dittylens_photography]

Watched it last night and they absolutely DELIVERED ❤

[@helixmoore7636]

​@carriegartin4274 Both ladies were incredible. I normally don't get emotional at movies but my wife kept asking if I was ok. Def will see this again

[@sabirtoothtiger]

She did her own stunts during that bit too. So much went into that!

[@Ravent69]

The book was so freaking good!! I love the songs in the musical, but it doesn't even begin to touch on the prejudices the way the book does!! But then again the book is always better than the screen adaptation.

[@JVanProduction]

💯! There’s foreshadowing in the movie with the talking goat and Elphaba. It speaks volumes with history - real history. Society has to have someone to blame. That spoke volumes. She was already this disliked individual - mainly bc how Galinda treated her. She was the first to gasp and everyone turned around and reacted the same - mob mentality. However Galinda reacted to Elphaba, the crowd was willing participants in her harassment. It’s hard to completely understand that harassment since the choreography was so much fun on screen and it just looks like they are “playing around” but oftentimes bullying can look like that from an adult perspective. Oh, they are just being children. *shrug* There’s layers to this movie which I love.

[@eleshawashington4918]

Your power is your power no matter how it's looks it's all in the DNA.

[@GLENNSTUARTYTAN]

Its a metaphor of the world and society bearing down on our individual hopes and ambitions. And how we must not fear to fail or fall in our defiance of pull of expectations and societal structures

[@kokolatte825]

I got that it was about how perception becomes fact. People don't require information. They make it up or believe the narratives they want to believe, which are informed by looks.

[@MasterMLG07]

Overthinking... its a reduction of diversity to identity-by-association, a framing of tribalism as intrinsic and natural as opposed to ideological... and a dismissal of the individual in favor of the group they're associated with presented as an anthem for individuality, so people struggling with identity fixations will relate to the emotional turmoil and be confused by the politics into thinking their identity ought to be a certain way because it's more acceptable as normative which actually just means less diverse. Its a complete fundamental misunderstanding of the human condition.

[@nm0852]

This trailer reminds me of the Netflix film “The School for Good and Evil”

[@kaheaisaac1]

Yesss

[@courtneyw6274]

I had such low expectations for that movie, but somehow it has a really deep message if you look deep enough. Definitely not what I expected, and way underrated

[@nm0852]

@ I think you meant to post that as a general comment, not as a response to my comment lol

[@dawn2wells]

That's what I thought of immediately.

[@abbied]

@@courtneyw6274 Did you like the movie?

[@jackid1234]

It's always been about that. Always. It's always made me cry and I've always understood. It's the world we live in. It's full of symbolism.I can't wait to see it.

[@JesseClay-t2z]

Elphaba had it hard in life and her back story is so jacked up but its so relatable.💚🌿

[@JanaeDoe3]

I see this story differently. She worked harder, was smarter and had talent. She was hated for her skin, overlooked, doubted and told to let them exploit her talent, even though they didn't possess talent. She was then villainized because she refused to let them. She... Was a black woman.

[@tammi67able]

Danggggg

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

No she's green in the movie

[@fuelthebeastNutrition1111]

@@chesterdonnelly1212yep green!!

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

@@fuelthebeastNutrition1111 yes the race of the actor playing Elphaba isn't important because she's green. That's how she's different. Also she has magical powers.

[@fuelthebeastNutrition1111]

@@chesterdonnelly1212❤❤❤❤

[@takeyiatwitty2216]

I think people forget that even the original novels were thinly valued political satire and critique. From the Silver Shoes to the glass people. Even the multiple sequels were meant to blast political movements at the time.

[@donnafreeman1571]

She was misunderstood and in a lot of cases, done wrong. We only get to see the blowup but never the cause of the blowup and just assume that the good guy or girl is good. Glinda was indeed the bad guy, but she had the look and the fake persona to throw everyone off. Not just Glinda but everyone in Oz were the villain that turned Alpaba evil when she indeed didn't start off that way.

[@JessicaC.]

Cool.

[@askedofgod9067]

Yeah. She’s a victim of circumstance right? Like there was no other path that she could have chosen right? She had to become evil because THEY treated her badly right? Nothing she could have done would have stopped her from turning evil right? 😂

[@stacydoe5009]

💯 Right, that's exactly what l said myself. Alfaba was the GOOD witch!

[@racheld7528]

Something I hope they show in the second movie is the ripple effect that can happen with even one decision, like saving the lion cub.

[@victorias1263]

I like the story but I think that they missed somewhere in there. The original movie of who Glenda was Glenda, was not actually the good guy. She was the evil one who came out on top at the end of everything. The wicked witch had every right to be furious. And for some reason, people seem to miss that.

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

Yeah Glenda was kind of an asshole in the original Wizard of Oz. This Glenda is actually nicer.

[@samanthaspringman5527]

People choose to walk around blind every single day. Why would being blind to statements in art be different. Our world is actually a Very frightening place and even the so called privileged US has so many dark undercurrents flowing deep and so cold.

[@thestorytimekitchen9706]

You, clearly, haven’t read L. Frank Baum - those books are the most righteously political tracts America has produced.

[@dawn2wells]

The book is disgusting, but reality is in fact disgusting. It took me by surprise the crimes being committed in the first few pages made me sick. It just got worse page by page. I think it's a cautionary tale.

[@pixi2209]

🎯

[@dhare07]

It's the Vikings origin story. How that which is good must be challenge by evil, while evil is celebrate good is hated. Please let that sink in because we're in the middle of what happens when you can't tell the difference between the two. The citizen in OZ were told a lie by their leader and thought it was true because they believed in him. They trusted him. But they did so blindly. They went with what was easiest and didn't bother to question it as long as THEY were happy. Didn't matter if anymore else suffered.

[@samanthaspringman5527]

Not much different from Propaganda today. If you dare think enough to scratch the surface of lies and deception it's horrifying what's to be found.

[@Dank-Hill]

The original Wizard of Oz was actually one giant political metaphor, so I don’t think wicked is “more political”.

[@ssgg23]

Still a bastardization of the original though lol

[@AlexeBriand2002]

@@ssgg23 not at all

[@ssgg23]

@@AlexeBriand2002 no, it is. All of these “the villain was actually not that bad” stories pretty much are.

[@revwolfe]

The original was basically a metaphor for the debate at the time over monetary policy and the gold standard (yellow brick road)

[@dandereninja4750]

@@ssgg23 I feel like it could work if it was about the story of a good person who slowly turned more and more evil as they compromised their morals bit by bit and eventually become the villain as they want to just watch the world burn.

[@tedb5792]

I want to comment that not all evil comes from a tortured innocent. But it often is tied to a lack of empathy

[@marewaltwms1]

We are not born without empathy someone or something pulls that empathy.

[@OMGGIRLSLiFE]

I don’t feel like she was a villain. I believe the hand she was given with the lies they told about her made her see her differences in who she was made her the villain. Everyone else is the real villain and for the wizard whom is her father is the biggest villain of them all. Glinda is also a villain for not speaking up for her and let everyone know the truth. The whole story is about betrayal and I believe that what made her sister evil too.

[@samanthaspringman5527]

Betrayal makes strong people do ugly things.

[@epicgoddess920]

Greatness is lonely and people hate those whose Greatness highlights their nothingness

[@solidshade81]

The books are amazing. Still waiting for "Elphie" to come out in March. I pre ordered for sure

[@BradSnyder493]

Lmao all I know was the press tour was wicked weird

[@natm5005]

Why do we constantly get remakes and backstories to already made movies, tv shows, and games? Can someone please make something new and original for once? Examples: Moana 2/Disney sequels/live action remakes, Wicked/Oz: The Great and Powerful/Wizard of Oz+books, Last of Us, Fallout, A Quiet Place (more are in discussions), the Saw movies, Barbie (made from toys to buy more toys), Narnia remakes+books, and MANY more. I want something new and exciting.

[@okayokayval]

To be fair, the Broadway musical debuted in 2003, and was based on a book from 1995. Fans of the book and stage show have been waiting for a film adaptation of Wicked for literal decades.

[@CGI_Andy]

unless the "remake" is bad, i see no point in getting upset. you also have to consider what the fans want...

[@natm5005]

@@okayokayval I hope it exceeds their expectations and they get what they want. :)

[@natm5005]

@@CGI_Andy I'm not upset, just pointing out my personal opinion (that I want something new) and some examples. Nothing really matters anyway.

[@CGI_Andy]

​@@natm5005 i get that. you can have your opinion. i also have an opinion too lol. i'm just pointing out that not all "remakes" are bad from an objective standpoint. for example, i may not watch maleficent ever but objectively it is good.

[@Adnamalotte]

I hope Steve was able to help her, poor girl.

[@Danvers89]

Exactly with a slight undertone of genocide. It’s such a dark piece if you truly think and break it down.

[@samanthaspringman5527]

This the root of any propaganda once questioned the answers can't be erased.

[@JVanProduction]

Also, the propaganda! I love that the narrator mentions that. The posters of an evil witch. There’s juxtaposition of the Emerald City as this heaven in green compared to Elphaba the Evil Witch that’s the bad green. It’s interesting how both colors play different roles in the movie but they are the same color.

[@oscarsoke4171]

im not that girl, oh my God cynthia knows how to pour emotion in a song

[@Ellaenchanted20]

The way her own father treated her like a germ was heart breaking even her sister (she did not do it to her self)

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

He wasn't the father

[@GeliceP]

I didn't think it's about her being a villain as she's the only 1 trying to do right. Those who want to portray themselves as good are the actual evil ones

[@joselinecortez9798]

It’s an interpretation of how real villains label those that are or think differently. This movie is perfect and if you don’t get it, sorry.

[@samanthaspringman5527]

Well said. Bravo.

[@Una1]

I LOVED the musical (saw it on stage five times) and was SO looking forward to the movie! My students (I'm a middle school teacher) were hyped to see it aswell! Then the lead actress trashed the fans and the Elphabas before her. We all refuse to watch it, and I encourage others to do the same.

[@tammi67able]

Same, she’d be nothing without her fans least she forgot

[@candeyb2505]

Moral of the story seems to be ALL THE MAGIC IN THE WORLD COULDN'T CHANGE HER COLOR NOR THE WORLD.

[@721rena]

If that's what you got from the movie then you actually didn't see the movie or play 😂

[@moonie-zw5by]

It's an Orwellian reinterpretation of Oz.

[@mandala314]

It's from L Frank Baum's series of books. No shortage of dystopia and autocrats and even fascism. He wound reality and fantasy together

[@onionbubs386]

Boy are you gonna be in for a shock when you actually read the books

[@Gfy69ytb]

No, it’s about a lot of things. There are at least two more books in the series about her friends.

[@amberwinterwillow3703]

for myself, i saw the parallels of Animal Farm & the Holocaust :( along with segregation and prejudice :(

[@m.t.443]

Yup!! In fact the Animals in the book represent the Jewish population, the Wizard came from the US and had witnessed how Nazi Germany handled discourse. "The best way to bring people together is to give them a good enemy." Lots of Jewish professors lost their jobs, and soon the Jewish population of Europe was silenced...and the rest is history. They were treated like animals and put in cages. The book does not sugar coat that the Animals represent religious minorities. It's amazing...this book is my favorite

[@paulsarnik8506]

Yeah book made Oz look more like a certain German Art Student and The Emerald City Alepo! . After reading the Book and hearing about the Play,🤔 still can't understand how they made a gay lighthearted musical out of THAT! 🤷🏼‍♂️🤓😎✌🏼

[@fifyfofum5944]

To me I felt strongly that these 2 personalities are the light and shadow self and how they compliment each other but are also tricky to navigate as they are juxtaposed. They are intertwined and essentially need each other to be balanced ❤

[@GraceZaalman-vm1df]

It is about feeling sympathy for the devil really, blurring the lines between bad and good.

[@pixi2209]

Exactly. And they have a goat as a teacher. Goat as Baphomet.

[@Dimi374]

They should rename the musical United States of America.😂

[@xanadu1215]

Yup. We got trumped😮😊

[@Dimi374]

@ 🤣🫶🏽🥰

[@721rena]

And we got Bidened ​@@xanadu1215

[@rox4884]

I loved Margaret Hamilton as the OG witch, but looking at the depiction in the book and then their giving Hamilton green skin, I think that both characters were being used to villianize a whole culture/race during their respective times. The Chinese in the book and Jewish people in the movie. I'm so glad that the character is being used as a symbol for tolerance and understanding now.

[@chronicallykelly7193]

You can stop crying now, Cynthia!! Lol

[@BeatrixKidd088]

With subtlety, this movie aims to justify wickedness by presenting to the audience a perspective that makes the WWOTW appear to be relatable & not so wicked after all. Ultimately, its calling that which is good, evil; and that which is evil, good. One could even say, blurring the lines of morality. I.M.O

[@samanthaspringman5527]

And what is evil about caring for animals being mistreated?? And what is good about being a fake and staying silent to climb for your own benefit?? Just because we are told someone is evil or good we should Never just blindly believe.

[@brianellis6517]

😂 what a dud 😂 4 people fell asleep 😴 in the theater 😂 😂

[@dmen6810]

Retelling? Spinoff? Nope.... hardly... It's a parody...

[@nadinekore6308]

It is very obviously about Green means Black. Next!

[@adlan_kacak]

sounds more convincing than the live action snow white

[@beanybabyrabie]

“The most cruel and offensive thing I’ve ever seen” -Cynthia regarding an edited movie poster paying homage to the original wicked poster.

[@recabitejehonadab2654]

It’s Fiona from Shrek!

[@robertrayklein]

With anorexia, an inferiority complex, and a lesbian anorexic lover with a superiority complex. Placed in a shallow elitist dystopia. No thanks, hard pass

[@pixi2209]

🎯 Thank you.

[@CuriousJenJen]

In short it's a villain origin story.

[@embraceit21]

It’s a story of a scapegoat, not a villain

[@jasonpeters617]

No, it really isnt. But thats okay, whatever. Youre not the only one running supersonic speed into walls commenting on this topic without knowing ANYTHING ABOUT IT

[@jasonpeters617]

​@@embraceit21👏🏽👏🏽thank you. Theres people out there who actually think she "struggled" because of her skin, SHE DIDNT! SHE WAS EMPOWERED by being different, and was proudly green!! She saw the ignorants around her as beneath her, cuz they were. Just like these nasty commenters dragging this jewel of philosophical though turned 20+years long running play adapted from the book . So irritating. Theres this like mind virus running rampant making alot of people ignorant as F.

[@CuriousJenJen]

@jasonpeters617 That's what he said in the video. So I'm saying in short what he said was ... Blank blank blank. If you don't get the context why reply to me.

[@amandagrace31]

Cynthia Erivo and Ariana ruined this movie for me

[@tinahedge7573]

Wow You really cleared THAT up

[@samanthaspringman5527]

I did So enjoy the books written by Gregory McGuire adding a broader set of viewpoints to the age old fairy tales. It would be Awesome to see every single book he wrote as a movie. Like Wicked.

[@cornbreadNFrends]

It’s funny I see some comments saying this is “woke” or too political clearly haven’t read Gregory Maguires series of books.. he took Frank Baums creations and dug and created a living real world.. 😂 my curiosity is how they took the novel and made it PG because for anyone that’s read the books there’s some pretty heavy stuff in those pages

[@laylascott6096]

I’ve never seen the play or read the books but I’m very excited to see the movie!

[@calebgoodman3028]

I recommend the movie before reading the books definitely. The books are very freaking dark, unnecessarily so at times and it can get uncomfortable.

[@abbied]

@@calebgoodman3028 Wicked or The Wizard of Oz though? (Just asking) thank you

[@saffronlealle464]

The entire series is amazing. I absolutely love each book. And I would love to see them all come to life. But it will be hard to live up to what my i.agination conjured up while reading this series.

[@mesquitemagic]

I LOVED the musical. I can't wait to see the movie.

[@Nwakaego_]

I love your takes and commentary on things. The doll side quest interviews and comments you add are hilarious!🤣 Keep it up, Michelle!🥰

[@sewsinthedark]

Thank you I didn't need another reason to not see this movie but here it is anyway.

[@richardrichard9631]

It's about some one who isn't capable of having an original idea of their own , taking someone else's. You can fool all of the people some of the time. That's what this film teaches us.

[@goldengram3865]

After seeing some interviews, I think it should be renamed, "Folie a Deux."

[@EquineDreams3]

Why did the 2 leads have to ruin the film for so many? Couldn't they pretend not to be narcissistic for one press tour?

[@721rena]

Narcissists have very little empathy don't cry for others and don't know how to love. I've seen nothing but empathy love respect and tears for others from these two. What you see in others is what you're actually a in yourself cause you're projecting hard. Cause this movie imo saved their careers and only shot them to extraordinary fame cause it truly showcased some of the best talent I've seen in a couple of decades

[@krystalshepherd4582]

Translation: Wicked tells you why you should feel bad for the villain and why we should excuse the behavior of bad people or people who do bad things because bad things happened to them.

[@robertrayklein]

Plus a whole lot of justifying racism from the minority and gay shit. So glad I told my sister in law my 7 year old wouldn't be going with her

[@tanyataylor5530]

Alphabau really didn't do anything wrong. She was manipulated and her powers were used against her. Alphabau was outnumbered by people who wanted what she had so they villainized her. Galinda was a trip. And that Chinese lady WOW I could tell from the beginning she was up to no good.

[@onionbubs386]

Maybe you should actually learn the story before you embarrass yourself like this

[@calebgoodman3028]

What? No not at all. That’s a very wrong take. Honestly how would you like it if you were an affair baby and your father had a whole army and huge political power that he uses to kill you, your BF, beating talking animals in public streets and vilifying you and intimidating everyone to do the same. I mean there were people in the Wizards employ thinking about assaulting Dorothy when they no longer needed her, which Elphaba would’ve been appalled by.

[@m.t.443]

Except her actions aren't forgiven, and she even grapples with the choices she has to make herself in the book. It takes a toll on a person to make decisions that might harm or kill innocent bystanders. Like most people...she is morally Grey. Neutral. It doesn't excuse her actions, but it shows the other side of the story. It's a very interesting read!

[@vanessamcghee2335]

Love them 💐💛✌️

[@ElizaCameron-tp3um]

The people who watched the musical. 😀

[@TruthSpeaker893]

It's a fanfick. That's all. Not cannon. The great and powerful Oz is way better.

[@Orchid_88]

Ariana ruined this movie when she stole a woman's husband

[@tammi67able]

😂 terrible

[@loveloses.]

"And maybe if you just once told me your favorite color, it would've made me empathize more. It would've made me realize I was the one holding the gun."

[@timothya2742]

My favorite version remains Tin Man

[@Littleearthlinghaha]

Overthinking be like:STOP IT👹-

[@paigeproctor4346]

You're going to be popular will forever live rent free in my head 😂

[@broadwaydream93]

Yeah, the book is written in the same premise. Those that bother to read it would know. The book was written during a time were a lot of fiction was political commentary.

[@abbied]

Wicked?

[@broadwaydream93]

@abbied Yes, Wicked, Wizard of Oz, Son of a Witch, and all the other sequels.

[@broadwaydream93]

@abbied Yes, Wicked, Wizard of Oz, Son of a Witch, and all the other sequels.

[@abbied]

@@broadwaydream93 But “The Wizard Of Oz” is the original though (right?)

[@abbied]

@@broadwaydream93 Sorry (I’m just starting to get confused because there’s so many of them) 😅

[@c.t.8856]

Narrator: Tells me everything that is great and valid about movie. Me : Still does not want to see movie.

[@Prince_the_One]

agreed, and i love the books and watched the play

[@Clearskies3848]

Then don’t…

[@Blastburn]

Its actually fun & good. Really felt for wicked witch of the west

[@whyiamafs]

I respect your opinion Though, can you tell us why?

[@Solid_Grey]

@@Clearskies3848I don’t think he will. That’s why he said that..

[@kalistrand5420]

I read the book and this EXACTLY why I was dumbfounded by it being made into a musical. I know there’s ’Le Mis’ and the ‘Phantom…’ but this was complicated and emotionally messy and sad; I’ve not seen any of the musical yet but I still struggle to see this as a musical.

[@DestinyGPlus3]

We're supposed to stay away from the bad sinful desires and actions because it's wrong. To change to be good. You can live with both. Yes we're human, yes we're going to mess up. But we can't allow wickedness in our lives ! Also the race card was thrown in 😂😂 come on.

[@721rena]

The whole entire musical is centered around treating her different cause she had green skin. This musical has been around for more then 20 years and you're just NOW COMPLAINING? why? What changed?

[@DavidBrown-nr9py]

You give Mcguire more credit than deserved. The book was so terribly written, I struggled to even finish it. It was imaginative. And there were a few good lines. But overall it needed a better editor.

[@pbg624]

It’s not a retelling, it’s a prequel

[@calebgoodman3028]

@@brookeoke3374You do realize Baum canonized books made after his death right? He only did 14 out of the 40 canon novels. Sure the Wicked series is apocryphal but it’s definitely more consistent writing-wise.

[@abbied]

@@calebgoodman3028 What do you mean by “canonized books made after his death” though? (Just asking) thank you

[@calebgoodman3028]

@ Baum only made 14 of the books but he gave his blessing for others to pick up his work. The main Oz series has 40 books by different authors.

[@abbied]

@@calebgoodman3028 So there’s 40 different books in the whole series then? 🙀

[@calebgoodman3028]

@ For the main Oz series yes.

[@dylancooper3690]

They should do movies about the origins of the cowardly lion, tin man and scarecrow too.

[@bluej.studios4523]

They have only showed the first half of the story so far. The movie is based off of the "Wicked" musical from 2003 which was inspired by a book called "Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West". I haven't seen the movie, but heard it stopped at the point where the musical would have it's intermission. The second half of the story actually does have stuff for the lion, tin man, and scarecrow. 😁

[@whisperycub]

It was always there in the book. In the series. People are just now realizing that by seeing this movie.

[@kellyhatcher6639]

And changing the story completely using someone else’s characters. 😂❤. I’ve seen the stage play(so awesome) and the movie ( really good). It is like a parallel universe of OZ. Lots of fun.

[@FlashySolution]

Yet more box ticking.

[@abbied]

Box ticking?

[@taleladar]

Getting tired of Hollywood churning out movies that glorify and sympathize with irredeemably evil characters, and turning all characters and plot devices on their heads.

[@midnightnavigator]

You know it's based on a book from almost 30 years ago right?

[@isabellacam4775]

​@@midnightnavigatorthe book never wrote about this

[@crapreact5989]

​@@isabellacam4775yes it did lol

[@crapreact5989]

Wicked was the original it did it first

[@calebgoodman3028]

@@isabellacam4775Yes it did actually. Though it was way darker.

[@lindabell5534]

So she wasn't just a narcissistic, boss girl ,cruel, greed and hateful person , nope she was justified being as she was being discriminated against ,because with all the different Characters of all different kinds only she was mistreaded.

[@XN1K1T4X]

Imagine taking another artist’s creation and then taking creative liberties and parading it around like you have created a masterpiece. And people love it…

[@MeowZerz-vz5bs]

and more revered than the original. oops.

[@krystalshepherd4582]

💯

[@SomethingCreative20]

Yes, adaptations exist.

[@dennisdaley7534]

Have you ever heard of the lion king? This is such a stupid comment. Also wicked is considered canon for the wizard of oz universe

[@lauren_sunshine]

It’s not the artist parading it around. It’s the fans. And you can’t really be surprised a story about friendship is more commercially *popular* than a story about politics (pun not intended, but delightfully left in)

[@jeanbean191]

“But what if the bad guy wasn’t really bad” isn’t anything profound tho, it’s been used time and time again

[@pixi2209]

Yes, it is to do finally god from satan. "What if the Evil one is not evil?" 👹

[@anotherinternetidiot6300]

I just wish Ariana was Elphaba and Cynthia was Glinda. That would be actual forward-thinking... How has society not moved past having a black character play the villian as an illustration. Americanization is dead.

[@samanthaspringman5527]

How about the fact that both the accused monster and the actual villain are Both female. Think on that a moment.

[@LucaMarchiori]

If you're going to school us on this, obvious to anyone who'se read the book, spell her name right:.Elphaba not Alphaba (L. Frank Baum not Alphabet).

[@rlmackie]

You misspelled Elphaba‼️

[@chocolatelioness33]

Gotta see this!!!❤️

[@gloriawatson7189]

The whole movie is amazing